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After years of fan theories and relentless speculation, Mephisto has finally made his MCU debut in Marvel's "Ironheart" – but was this supernatural revelation worth the wait? We dive deep into this pivotal moment for Marvel storytelling and examine whether this Disney+ series provided the right introduction for such an anticipated character.

The conversation explores how "Ironheart" struck a balance between technology and magic, building on foundations established in "Agatha All Along" while carving its own unique space in the Marvel universe. We break down the show's pacing issues, with many feeling the first four episodes moved too slowly before the final two installments delivered the action and revelations fans were craving. That memorable White Castle fight scene? We've got thoughts on whether it made up for the slow build.

Looking at Riri Williams' character development and her potential future in the MCU, we consider how she might fit into upcoming projects and possible team-ups like the Young Avengers. The Ezekiel Stane connection to Iron Man's legacy created an effective antagonistic force that honors the past while establishing something new.

Beyond "Ironheart," we also share fresh perspectives on "Fantastic Four," discuss Marvel's growing issue with unresolved post-credit scenes, and look ahead to upcoming projects. Whether you're all-in on the MCU or feeling superhero fatigue, our balanced take on where Marvel stands in 2024 offers something for everyone. Join us for this energetic, insightful discussion that doesn't just recap what happened, but examines why it matters for the future of superhero storytelling.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Comic-Con.
Comic-con.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
These guys are all.
We're talking about Comic-Con.

Speaker 4 (00:07):
I'm all like Ironheart finally, lupin having
the Ironheart sweats.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Man, I'm awaiting the dog to show.
I mean to praise this show.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
He actually already recorded his thoughts on it, so
we're going to cut in.
Roll the clip, yeah exactly.
Those are going to get cut inright now.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Man yeah, exactly, those are going to get cut in
right now.
I think this is the longestthat the three of us have gone
without talking to each other inverbal communication, in like
two years.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
When did we start February last year?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
So a year I will admit I was looking forward to
this all weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Were you.
I'm like, was I?

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yeah, I guess I was Lou's already out All the stuff
that Lou said at the beginningof Season 2 about being looking
forward to this and everything.
It took two weeks for him to go.
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
He's like, yeah, I'm over it.
I ain't going to lie though.
I'm sitting there watchingVoyager'm like towards the end
of season2 Well, not towards theend, I guess I'm episode 16, 26
or some shit and it's finallystarting to get To the point
where I'm like, damn, how arethey gonna get home?
Q shows up and he don't Sendhim home, like rude ass.

(01:18):
Q is rude.
Yeah, he really is.
Man Fucking discord.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Spoiler Q makes a cameo in Strange New Worlds.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I did hear about that and apparently he's supposed to
be in Voyager like two moretimes.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Did they finish Voyager when it was on
originally?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
All I know is somehow Seven and Nine is going to show
up, because I know she's fromVoyager.
I don't know how that happened,so I'm curious about that.
I know that there was an issuewith the actress playing Kes in
real life, so I didn't look upthe issue.
But I know I think for thefemale swap, seven and Nine
takes over for Kes as in fillingthe void, but I just don't know

(02:01):
how that happened or when thathappened.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
So it's like that was a hard choice back then, man,
because if you were into Kes,then all of a sudden you're like
wait, where is she going?
And then all of a sudden Sevenand Nine shows up and you're
like oh, okay, I guess.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
No, I'm taking Kes over Seven.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
But I'm saying back then when you had to be like,
okay, what are you going to swapher out with?
And then you're like, oh, nowin your brain you got to go.
Okay, where do my loyalties lie?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Kes Kes is cuter.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Simple as that.
I don't even remember her.
Maybe I didn't make it very farin Voyager.
She was in the first episode.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, she was at the beginning and then she
disappeared.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Crazy With her Beatles haircut you crazy, yeah,
because that Beatles haircut ishow Nah.
Yeah, that's how you see it.
I see that cute-ass facelooking like an elf.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Spoiler, though I did love the fact that Mephisto
fucking called out Ringo Waslike yep, and one Beatle, ringo.
I appreciated that.
I was like okay, cool, I didn'tthink he was going to call
names out, because he was likeand one beetle.
And then the closed captioningdid the dot dot dot and I was
like is he going to do it?

(03:16):
And then he's like Ringo.
I'm like all right, cool, ofcourse it's him.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Was the whole Mephisto reveal the only thing
worth a damn in Ironheart?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Probably.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Are we Okay, so we're talking about it now.
We're on it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Duke, you saw it like a couple hours ago.
You finished it up.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, weren't you guys proud of me so?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
proud, proud, surprised.
Either way.
Either way works.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
You expected me to be texting, sorry guys didn't get
to it this week.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Uh, yeah, I was like he only had three extra weeks,
so you know, that's not a lot.
I was.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
I was doing our post softball thing and all of a
sudden I was like fuck, I shouldgo home and watch them before,
before this how much did youhave?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
how much did you have to finish Two?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
episodes.
Which again To me, those twoepisodes, if I would have just
skipped and watched those twoepisodes, you would have got the
gist of the whole thing.
Yeah, the last two episodes tome Didn't necessarily make the
first four episodes Worthgetting through, but at least
stuff happened in the last twoepisodes.
I liked the White Castle fight.

(04:25):
That was kind of fun.
That was bullshit.
Stuff happened in the last twoepisodes like.
I liked the.
I like the white, the whitecastle fight.
That was kind of fun.
You know type of thing.
That was bullshit, but it wasat least something right.
It wasn't like this like we'resneaking around.
We're not like again you'rehaving iron heart, you have her
in the suit and she's done dick,all in the suit for four
fucking episodes.
And you're just like come on,guys, like she's in suit, let's
have her do some shit.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
My problem is them two girls both be badasses and
then they beat everybody else upthe whole series and then they
can't beat her up in WhiteCastle.
Are you kidding me?
Right now I've seen blackpeople in other fucking fast
food places in the real world,not in the Marvel Universe,
beating up people left and right.
Come on now.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
You said Waffle House , luke, jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I did like, or Caribbean Cruise, either one.
They're on Carnival Cruise,stay fake.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
I did like that they worked around the employee prop,
the employee thing by having itbe completely automated.
Because when they were like,okay, everyone needs to leave,
and there was like five peoplein there eating food, and then I
think it was like halfwaythrough the fight I go well,
where are all the employees?
And then I saw the robot armsand I was like, oh, okay, that

(05:33):
makes sense.
All right, I get it now.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
So they fancy up there in chicago.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, fancy fancy white castles yeah but no,
I mean to me, to me the last.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
The last few episodes didn't make the show worth
watching all the way through,but at least their stuff
happened, things moved forward.
There was I felt like there wasa lot of the first four
episodes.
I thought there was a lot oftread and water, a little bit um
.
And then, like I shared withyou guys before, my biggest
problem was just the the timeframe between her being

(06:07):
introduced and the show comingout right and all the stuff that
happened, all the politicalmachinations that happened
within the show or to the showin the three, three years right,
it's been three years, yeah, um, that also like changed the
show or altered the show orwhatever.
And then like they come in andyou're just I, I don't know.

(06:29):
I have the same again.
I had the same problem withinvincible.
I really liked season one ofinvincible but then when you
make me wait a year and a halfto watch the next one or two
years to watch season two, I'mlike I've already moved on, like
I, I'm in my brain.
It's like canceled.
I'm like okay, cool, becausealready moved on In my brain.
It's like canceled.
I'm like okay, cool, because Istill have old TV mindset where
it's like if it's not out.
If you're not giving me newepisodes year in and year out,

(06:51):
it's really hard for me to getback engaged.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
So I take it, you're anti-South Park?

Speaker 4 (06:56):
then Well, I haven't watched South Park in probably
15 years.
So I'm not anti South Park, Imean it's good, Glad it's still
on.
I supposedly the last episodeor first episode of the season
was was hilarious, but I havenot, uh, I have not watched it.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
So I'm kind of with you.
I haven't watched itconsistently in a while, but if
there's an episode people aretalking about, I'll watch it,
like I watched the KathleenKennedy episode.
I watched the season premierelast week.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, and if, like, a clip shows up on my YouTube
feed, I'll watch it, like I'mnot.
I'm not opposed to South Park,I'm just not committed to it,
right.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
No, it was just that whole comment Cause that was
like two years since their lastepisode, 2023 or something.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
And that was part of it, I think, when they stopped
doing kind of consistent seasons, which I think you doing kind
of consistent seasons, which Ithink you know, now that we're
in this like weird hybridstreaming slash broadcast, you
know, like I mean, like they hadplus, they had politics, you
know, with the buyout that was,or merger that was happening,
yeah.
So they had a bunch of crapgoing on so I, you know, but I

(07:59):
mean there's been a few showslike that that I was super into
and then just like didn't getback to you, right?
I think we've had thatconversation a few times about
tv shows, movies, that type ofthing and I my I have short
brain, I have old man brain, Ican't you know.
Yeah, I don't remember what thefuck happened in season one of,
uh, invincible.

(08:20):
Two and a half years later,like who is this again?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
What do you need?

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, so I guess I'll go play that one was easy to
keep track of.
I'll go play Mortal Kombat.
I'll go play Mortal Kombat withthe Invincible expansion.
That'd be kind of cool but.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
They do have him in there.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Not Invincible, but Omni-Man.
They have Omni-Man andHomelander in the Windows game
homelander and then, oh, no way,that's kind of this game.
Yeah, uh, I mean I'm gladmephisto is finally here because
I mean I on my youtube feedswe've been I've been hearing all
of the, the mcu, uh, kind ofthe.
The guys that talk about theeaster eggs and all that kind of
stuff have been talking aboutmephisto for years.
So I'm glad, yes, there'sfinally a mephisto in the world.

(08:59):
As opposed to maybe this ismephisto, maybe this is meph
Mephisto.
I want a TV show showingMephisto doing Loki, showing
Mephisto all the way back tofucking Iron man, fucking
manipulating shit for the last25 years in the MCU.
I think that would be cool.
I'm like, oh, okay, havingclips from the show.
You thought it would be Borat,though, yeah, I know huh, my

(09:26):
problem with that is that's notwhere he belonged.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
He belonged in agatha all along.
That would have been a betterplace to pop him up, because the
witches in this show justshowed up out of nowhere.
They're like oh, by the way,there's witches, right.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
It's like literal black girl magic yeah I do like
that they run a sweets andbookshop.
I'm like, oh okay, Candy andbooks.
What do you?
Want.
It's the perfect cover for your, but again, I mean.

(09:56):
Agatha also made the magiceasier in Ironheart to accept.
Right, I think if we wouldn'thave had magic before that.
And then all of a suddenthey're like oh magic.
You'd be like wait a second,but Agatha already kind of laid
the I agree with that Agathaalready laid the groundwork when
she started doing this shit andall of a sudden, you know stuff
happened.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Although we already had that with Scarlet Witch.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
But I mean really it's only been Scarlet Witch,
though right Like scarlet witch,though right like up until
agatha it was scarlet witch wasthe only one.
Really, her and dr strange werereally the only ones that
showed magic or power orwhatever.
But I think agatha like me inmy head when she started doing
it in ironheart I was like okay,cool, like we've already
established that there's thiswhole other world well, I guess

(10:40):
my point is I didn't need it inagatha all along is.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I mean agatha, uh, scarlet Witch, doctor Strange,
the whole Wong and DoctorStrange cult, whatever those
people are called.
And Madison with a Y, yeah,magic is a thing, so I didn't
need that to happen.
I mean, I didn't need Agathaall along to make me believe in
magic.
I just need Mephisto to show upwith Agatha all along because
it seemed like it would havemade more sense to make me
believe in magic.
I just think Mephisto wouldhave shown up with Agatha all

(11:04):
along because it seemed like itwould have made more sense.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
But I do kind of agree with Duke, though, because
in Agatha we're introduced tothese people who are just
witches right, because before itwas Scarlet Witch, she's a
mutant from the fucking InfinityStones.
Strange has his style ofarmogato, yeah.
So it's kind of cool to seepeople that are just people be

(11:29):
witches, which, like he said,makes it more easy to digest
Come Ironheart, when thesechicks are just like yeah, no,
we got magic, it's fine,whatever.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
I did like the fact that her mom thought it was just
going to be some sage and someshit and all of a sudden, she's
like group and then they're likejust gonna be like some sage
and some shit and all of asudden she's like group and then
they're like what the fuck godthat to me?
I and again, so, like I said,the last two episodes.
Really there was enough stuffin the last two episodes.
I think I could have gottenaway with watching the last two
episodes and would have gottenthe point right.

(11:58):
The first four episodes I reallykind of felt like they were
like oh, reread the fuck up, andeverything she does is break
something or hurt somebody orwhatever.
And then all of a sudden, likeepisode five, they're like oh,
now we're bringing the familytogether and now she has her
crew, and then this and this andthis happens right Bunch of
bullshit.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
But now John's solo and we're gonna tear up your
dad's sentimental vehicle tomake your suit.
That's not bulletproof oranything, it's just fucking car
metal.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Those are American steel, sir.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
It's a markup.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
All that means is you have to pay tariffs on it.
That's all that means.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Less tariffs.
Yeah, less tariffs, becausethey still got to import the
steel.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Man.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I don't know, I enjoyed it well enough.
It wasn't woke or preachy oranything that is true, I'm with
you on that, dude.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I thought it was going to be and it wasn't.
It was just bad.
I mean bad's, not even theright word.
It was fine, it was, and that'sall it was.
It was just fine.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
It was like alright, it wasn't bad, it wasn't great
it was just bad, fine, it waslike all right, it wasn't bad,
it wasn't great it was just yeah, it was just bad.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
I mean, secret invasion definitely set the bar
so that's the nice thing isanything that they come out with
it after this.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
You're going to be like, well, it wasn't secret
invasion yeah, that's kind ofhow yeah that's kind of how I
look at it.
I look at it like which.
What could I watch before this?
And it's's like, however, Ithink I could watch Skeleton
Crew before I watch Ironheartagain.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, oh, 100% my oldest.
She's super into Thunderbolt.
She's watched it four timessince we got it on Thursday and
she's like I should catch upwith the rest of the MCU.
I'm like, yeah, watch anythingexcept Secret Invasion.
You can do without that.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yep, that's probably the way to go too.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I mean I like the, I do like the Ezekiel stain.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
That connection.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
That was kind of cool If a little forced.
You know Iron man and anotherstain.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
But again, it's the clip that they always play of
george from episode one.
They're like it.
It everything matches.
It's a poem you know,symmetrical or whatever yeah,
yeah, yeah so that's me.
I'm like cool, yep, poetry, well.
And I like the fact that at theend, when she's like okay, I'm
gonna fix you, and he's like weain't done, like this shit isn't

(14:23):
over, I was like cool becausehe could have just been like, oh
yeah, thanks for saving my life.
Like we're cool now, butinstead he's like nah, like you
still fucked me up, like I'm.
You're the reason I'm this wayright now, like so I appreciated
that and I thought he did agood job acting in it too.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Like I thought agreed yeah going in a star wars movie
.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
That'd be kind of cool yeah, yeah, yeah, we should
see what's available.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
I know it kind of looks like a young Solo, if
anything.
Yeah, yeah, I'd probably dosomething like that, yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Sir Harrison Ford's still alive.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
You're not pissing on his grave already and he's not
even you just a fan of recastand for whatever reason, fucking
Lucasfilm is not Just hiresomebody new.
It's okay, jesus, it worked forLando.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Do what we're adults.
Mostly we can accept changes inStar Wars.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Know what, though?
It's perfectly fine.
Just write a good damn story.
We don't give a shit.
Just write a good story, and wedon't care who the actor is.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Well, but speaking of that, I had no big problems
with Solo.
There were parts that were kindof like eh, but on the whole I
was fine with him being Han.
As far as his acting and stufflike that goes.
The story was kind of.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, no, that part was fine.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
I thought, story was kind of, yeah, no, that part was
fine, I thought.
I mean, I thought he did fineas han right was the story great
.
But you know, and I did thinkit was a little too fan servicey
.
There was a little bit too muchlike oh, here's the gun and you
just do this and this and nowit's your blaster.
You know that type of thing.
But besides that, I was I wouldbe fine with seeing him as han
solo again I mean that part wasa little silly.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I mean mean that movie was real simple.
You had to have the few thingsthat you had to have.
You had to have the Kessel Run.
You had to have how he meetsChewie the gun.
Yeah, that was a little bitforced, that was necessarily,
but I was fine with how he metChewie and that whole.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yeah, how he met Chewie, no problem.
I wish they would have donemore with his Imperial service.
I think there could have beenmore stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
There's a comic book series about that.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I think there was.
Yeah, I was going to say Ithink there was some additional
media there you go in the comic,but I thought there was
supposed to be more in the film.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
But it was like no cut for time but it got all
packed up because they had thelego guys working on it and then
they brought ron howard in, soand I think I saw something
there was like 90 percent ofsolo ended up being a ron howard
production like they didn'teven get director.
This movie is too silly.
They didn't even get to knowwhere han solo's pants are

(16:59):
everything is not awesome theydid not get a director credit
right.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
They got the producer credit or story credit or
something thing is not awesome.
They did not get a uh directorcredit right.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
They got the uh producer credit producer or
story credit or something, yeahthe last thing was obviously how
he got the falcons from lando.
So I mean, you had three thingsthat you had to have in the
movie.
They put him in there.
The rest of it was just likespace to figure out how to get
those three things in the movie.
And you know, I I get it.
I.
I hated it the first time I sawit.
I absolutely hated that movie.

(17:25):
I was hot in the theater andthe movie.
I just could not stand it.
And then it was like, all right, fine, whatever.
The second time I watched it,like two years later, it was
like oh, it's actually not bad.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Matt, we were watching when we went and
watched Superman, like theyturned the AC off with like an
hour left in the movie orsomething.
I don't know.
Something like maybe I don't.
I think part of it.
They weren't that our theaterwas full on a tuesday night at 7
30 that makes sense and we werethere and like we walked out
and like I had like sweaty pitsand like I had like backtracks.
I was like sweaty back and Iwas like what the fuck?

(17:57):
And everyone's like were youhot in there?
Did it get hot in there?
And I go, yeah, it was fuckingmiserable.
Like come on.
You're like, oh, let's improvethe experience.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, don't fucking keep the air conditioning on
assholes.
That's when you go out andyou're like, look, I need a free
IC yeah no shit.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
So, Jack, you were fine with Ironheart.
Yeah, I don't know I don't seehow Ironheart's going to fit
into the rest of the universe,sorry, Jack, are you fine with
Ironheart?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Let me cut off your answer, sorry.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Sorry, hey guys, I'm rusty, it's been a couple weeks
since we've done this.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
No, it was fine.
It's cool that they brought inMephisto.
I don't know Ironheart's storyin the comics, so I don't know.
Does she join the YoungAvengers?
She's going to go hang out withKate and Miss Marvel and all
them.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I don't know Girl power, teenage girl power Yay.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Well, Wickham will be there.
The characters are fine.
Like I said, teenage girl power.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, exactly, teenage girl power.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Where's the macho man ?
We need a macho fella on theirteam.
Oh yeah, the cream rises to thetop.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Haven't heard anything about that in a minute.
Is that like a done deal?
Because they're going to finishup Doom and Secret Wars and
probably go right into theMutant Saga, so at that point I
mean, what are you going to dowith the Young Avengers?
Disney Plus maybe?

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, maybe, but I mean they've also kind of I mean
they dismissed the Marvels.
So to me, since they're kind ofignoring that now, that to me
would ignore the post-creditsscene with her saying oh yeah,
I'm going to be meeting allthese people Like they haven't
like addressed that at all sincethe Marvels have come out as
far as, like those storylines,they haven't addressed a lot of

(19:41):
shit.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, they have a lot of they still might.
You know, they still might.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, well, it was that weird ship at the end of
the Thunderbolts.
They didn't do anything withthat.
That was weird.
Exactly Just had a four on it.
That was fucking stupid.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
And all it did was just nothing.
They turn it, you see a fourand then nothing See.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
More shit For real.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
More than his voice.
Pretty sure that was 5 years,whatever the hell that was 21?

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Is that when the journals came out?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Let's see if Endgame was 19, so it was either 20 or
21.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
I'm guessing it was probably supposed to be 20, but
it probably got delayed Becauseof If only we had a device that
would let us know 21 is a lot ofwork.
Trivia question answered 2021because of If only we had a
device that would let us know Eh2021's a lot of work, Bam.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Trivia.
Question answered 2021.
So we're four years, five, sixyears from the announcement
because it was Comic-Con 2019, Ithink when they announced him
and then his voice shows up in2021,.
But they still ain't figuredout a movie, a story or anything
what to do with him.
So it's just, I mean betweenthat and figure out a movie a
story or anything, what to dowith them.
Between, that wasn't there.

(20:49):
I'm trying to think theHercules and Thor, there's that.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
And Harry Styles, harry Styles, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
The end of freaking Eternals.
Whatever the hell that moviewas called.
Is that what it's called?
Eternals?
The end, with that whole beaconthing is going off and
Shang-Chi the end of that onethere's like so much.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
It was tied to the Ten Rings or something right
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
That's the thing.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
The Ten Rings were ringing and he was like what's
all this?
And Wong was like look they gotwhat was that?

Speaker 2 (21:20):
four or five already they had to tie in, it's like
alright.
And especially, got what's that?
Four or five already they haveto tie in, it's like all right.
And especially, they can't doanything with that.
If it was supposed to tie in to, uh, jonathan majors, so if the
whole king, because that waspart of the whole king thing.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Well, there's more shit that's just out there in
the wind I want the first like10 minutes of doomsday to just
be like them tying all that up,I just but, but just like
cutting it off and bringingeverybody together.
Like a bunch of portals justopen and they all get sucked
into Battleworld and then theyjust are like alright, we're
moving on, we're good.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Like when you drop up this post-credit, this
post-credit, Yup.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
They just address all the post-credit scenes for the
last five years that theyhaven't talked about.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
The Hercules one they could do in Thor 4, though
right yeah, 5, whatever they'reon 5?

Speaker 1 (22:08):
5.
Yeah, as long as Thor doesn'tdo it.
Obviously he's a one-trick pony, yeah, and it only worked once.
He should do a Star Wars movieor something.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
I'll be all right with that if I can find a role
for him.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
No, he's going to make it Like, make it.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Like direct it Really .

Speaker 4 (22:27):
But that also means he's going to be in it.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Exactly.
You got to find a role.
I heard that was on the shelfanyway, just like Rian Johnson's
is on the shelf now.
Yeah.
Yeah, I thought they benched.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
I thought they benched.
No, because there was two ofthem that are.
Was it man?
There's no star wars, which?

Speaker 1 (22:47):
one is mingle doing.
I think he's doing the highrepublic.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
I thought really I like the origin of the jedi or
some shit yeah yeah, yeah, Ithink there's him, and then
there's one other jedi one andthen the starfighter one is all,
that's.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
That's that's going.
Everything else is on the shelf, yeah which I mean I'm fine
with that.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
I think it's so, am I ?

Speaker 1 (23:02):
It's like I gotta wait until they make all their
money off of Mando and Grogu andfill up the coffers which they
won't make their money off ofMando.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
No, they'll.
They'll make all their moneyoff of the 50th 50th anniversary
release in April of 2027.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
That.
I'm wondering about us now, why, why?
It's but whatever Our specialedition copy that we're going to
get, that's going to be furthermodified.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
It's going to be Disney-ified.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Oh yeah, it's got to be a Disney Plus version, that
way they can say you can gowatch it on Disney Plus, so you
can get a subscription to DisneyPlus.
I would argue if I'm marketing,I'm putting both versions out
and then let the fans choose.
You will know what the fansreally want that would just
confuse them, because people arefucking stupid.

(23:48):
It would confuse some people.
It would confuse some people,but again, the ones who, who
actually pay money to go seeyour product, to buy your
product, to do all the extrastuff, not just the movie you
will get an idea what those fanswant.
Because it's like if you putout a blu-ray 4k version of the
unedited or unspecial editionwhatever you want to call it

(24:10):
originals of all three, there isgoing to be a group of people
that's going to buy that.
Uh, this is a big group.
People don't give a fuck either.
So you know, but I'd like toknow that answer.
Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm kindof there, like all the stuff.
The only thing that reallyBothers me is the end of Jedi.
The rest of it I can deal with.
The end of Jedi I want my Ewoksong.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Not Han shooting first, not Jabba showing up.
Not Luke screaming After hemade the conscious decision.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Not the fucking Jedi rock song Lou wants Yub Nub back
.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
I want.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I got the lyrics.
They're on my computer.
I can pull them up.
It's on my desktop, it's justup there.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
You don't even need the lyrics because you have them
memorized.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
There was a time when that was true.
There was a time I need themnow, but about when did I get
out here?
2012, I moved out Up untilabout 10 years ago.
I could play that song becauseit was on my phone.
I could play it and I did notneed the lyrics.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Lou had one song on his phone, and one song only.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
No, I had the Imperial March also.
Okay, that's fair, I had two, Ihad two and then one album that
was Jagged Little Pill butwhatever.
But yeah, that's like I don'tknow.
It's like, yeah, okay, when Ido watch the special edition, I
don't care all that much.
The Jedi Rock song is stupid.
It's like, eh, whatever, a lotof stuff.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
But once we get to it , it does kind of rock, though
it is catchy it man.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I ain't gonna lie, I hated it.
I hated it when it first cameout and then, I think in the
theater or whatever, I think itwas the special edition, the
ones that they released in thetheater in 97.
And then, probably about a fewyears later, I was like, okay,
this is actually kind of catchy,I'm okay with it.
I like the scene of the of the.

(26:06):
What is it?
The robot?
When they come to tatooine, therobot's hitting on a critter.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Well, it's carrying the pipe, and then it hits.
Yeah uh, the camera droid, thelittle droid thing hits it, yeah
so I mean again those things.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
The whole java didn't like.
You're not, we're not wrong.
The java thing didn't bother me.
Grito shooting first botheredme, but not the way other people
were losing their minds.
It bothered me, but I did notlose my mind over it.
I only lost my mind.
I guess the second.
Again, jedi is switching theAnakin ghost.
I wanted Sebastian Shaw.
I thought that was terriblethat they brought in Hayden for

(26:42):
that.
I get why.
You know the new crowd and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
They recognize that Connects it better.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, yeah, it totally does, I guess.
And I guess, if you want to gowith some kind of story, it's
the whole.
Well, that's when he wasclassic, good.
So I was like, okay, let's looklike him, I get all that.
I just preferred Sebastian Shaw.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
That's all and the whole helmet off scene.
I wanted that character um.
It was like where the fuck arehis eyebrows?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
put those back.
God damn it.
What are y'all doing?
What are y'all doing to me?
But more than anything, it'sthe like.
There's been times I've done it.
I'll, I'll pause it and thenI'll put my dvd in it.
I'll play the right ending.
I haven haven't done it in along time we're talking maybe
two decades but when theystarted doing it I was not a fan

(27:29):
.
I was like no, or I would muteit and then play the song on my
phone.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
You hear a fucking listening to the radio broadcast
of the local sportscasterswhile having the national feed
on his TV.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Wait, I only do that with, like Sunday night football
, because Chris Collinsworth issuch a oh, he's such a tool.
I can't listen to ChrisCollinsworth.
So there's definitely been sometimes where it's mute and then
you got to sync that.
You know, thank you for DVR andall that shit.
You got to pause it and sync itto what lines up with what the
radio broadcast is, becauseWestwood One Radio is way better

(28:06):
than Chris Collinsworth.
But damn, or I'll just mute itcompletely and I'll be playing a
game on, you know, the computeror something like that.
That's happened, it's just, andthere's not too many.
Joe Buck is one that I can'tstand and Chris Collinsworth.
The rest of them are mostlytolerable.
Tony Romo is a little bit of atool, but not in a negative way

(28:30):
in the sense that like oh my god, he's an absolute guy.
Just that whole.
Here we go, jim.
Oh no, jim.
It's like oh my god, I'mwatching old school Star Trek.
Damn it, jim, it's just TonyRomo.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Speaking of that, I find the uh.
Just to circle back toironheart real quick.
I did find it interesting thatthey looped in the star.
I wonder how much they had topay for the star trek rights for
uh, for having it in the showwhich part which when, well,
when the uh natalie's brotherwas calling him, calling her
spock, and then oh, oh and thenwhen she gave him the headphones

(29:05):
, and the envelope had theEnterprise logo on it and stuff
like that.
Well, the Federation.
The Federation logo yeah.
This guy Supposed to be a popculture.
I never claimed to be popculture at all.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
You're right.
It's not like we do a popculture pod or anything.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Nope, I don't ever contribute.
I just interrupt.
I don't I, but only if it'syour own question yeah, yeah, uh
, so we did talk about hold on,hold on though that's a good
question, that's.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
I'm curious myself now that I haven't really
thought about that.
But bringing that ip and likedo you have to charge, like do
you have to pay?

Speaker 4 (29:42):
for that.
I'm sure they, I'm sure theypaid a ton for it.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
I'm not sure, if they can, just because you know what
it's like free advertising forthem.
I mean, I'm not charging youanything.
Thank you for you know proppingup my show and they weren't
talking shit about it.
That's exactly it, it's allpositive.
So you would think and be likehey, feel free, thank you I'm
sure there was some sort of anegotiation right.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Maybe not financial, but Okay, bro, look, that's what
we want to do, and.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Paramount could use all the fucking help they can
get right now.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, you saw the numbers with the South Park
episode, right, Dude?
They were the last season theydid in 23,.
I don't have you seen this,Jack.
I saw this today.
They got less than 500,000viewers on their Season premiere
of the last season Last week.
5.7 million, Well.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Show Trump's penis.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Well then you need binoculars, but either way, um
Can't really argue that they didshow Now we're gonna have to
pay a fine or bend the knee andpay a Relax relax, relax guy
it's fine, it's fine.
Now we're going to have to paya fine, or bend the knee and pay
a.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Relax, relax, relax, guy, it's fine.
It's fine guy, it's fine.
No see, trump is the president,so you can make dolls and shit.
He's like public realm or someshit.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah, there's some kind of parody rules that you
can do.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
You can get away with it.
Yeah, once you're president, Ican put your face on a t-shirt
and you can't do nothing aboutit.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
It's kind of entertaining actually.
Again, left or right, itdoesn't matter, you can have
whatever fun.
You want More power too, but Ithink you're right.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
I could see a negotiation where, hey, we want
to use your IP and it's okay,fine, but it this time Let us
say Mickey Mouse, or somethingExactly.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
We've got to reference something.
In Strange New Worlds, the lastseason.
They can bring up some 20thcentury, 21st century reference
to an animated mouse.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
He's going to be like oh, you're Indiana Jones or
something.
Five people will get it and belike ah, I see what they did
there.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
It'll be us, we're three of the five and it'll be
in our pot.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yeah, there'll be eight people total.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
We'll get the joke Stay tuned folks, We'll spot it
out for you.
Stay tuned everybody.
Make sure you subscribe andfollow.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
We talked about Superman Did everybody watch
Superman.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I can't remember.
Did we cover that already?
I thought we covered it.
I thought Duke had it watchedor something like that, but we
did.
Okay, all right, don't worryabout it.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Oh no, I watched it on Tuesday, maybe after the pod.
We talked about it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
You guys did you guys did it with like out spoilers
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah like spoilers.
What about fantastic?

Speaker 4 (32:33):
four have you seen it yet?

Speaker 1 (32:34):
yeah, saw it on tuesday, or I saw most of it.
Did you fall asleep?
Yeah, dude, they turned theheat up.
That theater was hot too what'sgoing on right now?

Speaker 4 (32:40):
why have all of us been to a movie theater?
That's been 85 fucking degrees.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Old girl nap too, but that's because she was tired.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I mean, it was Comic-Con.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
It was hot in there, dude.
I didn't even notice.
How was your guys?
Well, besides it being hot, howwas doing a movie for Comic-Con
for the second year in a row?

Speaker 1 (32:59):
It wasn't bad.
It was actually pretty easy.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
We went to a closer theater this time.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah, you know where Target is across from the
timeshare, the timeshare Rightover there, dude.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, it was behind the Target and that's because I
accidentally picked the wrongone.
I thought I was picking the onefrom last year.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
But it worked out better because it was only a
five-minute drive Now.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
I'll pick that one going forward.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Whatever?

Speaker 2 (33:19):
next going for whatever next year's july movie
is.
Uh, I will do the same thing.
Uh, maybe, maybe, uh, uh, ohgirl, uh, uh, jackie's woman uh,
got herself a subscription soshe can get the tickets because
it's cheaper now for real.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Luke can give me 80.
Next time for real.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
There you go it's like why did you give?
Why did you get jack aroosevelt'm like?
Because I had two movie tickets.
Is it going?
To cost a Roosevelt yeah.
Welcome to.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
San Diego.
Oh yeah, when we were in thechat, I think Jack was like 280.
And I'm like oh, that's a goodComic-Con number.
I'm good with that number.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
And then Lou was like nope hang on, hold my beer.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
What is he?

Speaker 4 (34:02):
doing.
I was doing like son of a bitch, fucking comic-con.
I wasn't even there.
How's it gonna cost me fuckinga thousand dollars and I wasn't
even there for real, bro.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
You did spend like 600 bucks too you were even
there I don't even think aboutthat.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Hey, still cheaper than last year oh, oh, by far,
by far Did I have the longestlist.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
I feel like I have the longest list.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
I didn't even buy that much.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
I kept two Roosevelt.
That fall drop, whatever it'scalled the fathom drop for the
black and white.
Luke.
Vader, I kept that Fig pin.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Doorables, doorables, success, they did not.
Wow, that's wild.
Considering how huge they werelast year.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, for real.
We were hoping I got a coupleof prints of the Transformers,
one I pre-ordered.
Then I found one other one whenI was there Not a whole hell of
a lot though the.
Impulse spies were non-existent.
It was basically let me buy 25Roosevelt's over the course of
the weekend, Keep two of them.

(35:18):
Sell a bunch Paper.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Comic Con with the rest of them.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I think I got three Roosevelt's, and then my friend
got one, you got four, you gotthree Star Wars and the San
Diego floral, and then at leastMaybe five, but at least those
four.
And then, oh yeah, nice, andthen he wasn't even around for
that.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I wasn't, nope, I was doing other stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
And then, yeah, then your boy got one Floral as well,
because you got no, he got thepanel shirt, right, yeah, the
panel, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, mind, but, uh, like, like

(36:02):
the one I, the ones that I wouldchange my mind on first is
probably cartoon ships, uh what,which is now called what is it?
Great shot, great sketch kit,great sketch kit, yeah.
And then the other one I wouldkeep.
If I I don't think I'm going to, but it would be that one, then
it would be bad batch, then itwould be nil.
I almost did go ahead.

(36:22):
I was gonna say I can'tremember, I don't even think I
got a neon.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
I almost asked for the great sketch.
But I was already like, okay,I'm 3 deep, I don't need, I
don't need any more.
No, you did ask for that.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I got the Neal.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
I got both florals and then the panel is my friend,
so five total Okay.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah, because you got the regular San Eagles and I
think old girl just got one polothis time the San Eagles floral
she didn't like the other one.
If I was going to get a panelpolo, it would have been the
Kermit the Frog one.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, that one was dope and the Spider-Man Popsicle
.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
The Spider-Man Popsicle would have been my
second one, but I was like eh,whatever.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, that was nice and walk-up.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
That one was simple.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Sorry, the Polo shirt , polo boots.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Well, they all were wristbands, but that was a
walk-up wristband.
They give you a wristband justto take it off you and take your
purchase.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
So we had a conversation right before
Comic-Con.
How were the lines forRoosevelt's?

Speaker 1 (37:37):
So they're trying to remember.
They gave us wristbands inJapan.
Right, it wasn't a big deal inJapan, it was pretty easy.
People was throwing fists andknocking little kids over and
handicap people getting ran overyeah, like people got pushed
out their wheelchairs andsomebody had a gun, it was crazy
.
But yeah, they came out, theyheld signs, uh, with their time

(37:59):
slots for what their wristbandwas.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
That part was cool, that they had that that they had
time slots in case you hadother stuff to do If you want a
lot of time, if you had a panelto go to, you had another.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Roosevelt booth to do .

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Okay, you have 10 to 11.
If you don't get it, you'rescrewed.
No, you could just like.
You know what I need a 2o'clock time slot, and you could
do that.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
It was super cool, they allowed but no, as soon as
they started handing out thosewristbands, it was just like a
mob of people and just you knowit wasn't the roosevelt's people
, it was just all the fuckingcomic.
Yeah, it's just all the dickbags.
Yeah, it was ridiculous, therewas one more I sent the girls
like further into the lucaspavilion because people were

(38:42):
about to fight.
I'm like you guys go furtherback and and then they're like
oh, the 12 o'clock wristbandlady is over here with nobody at
her.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Perfect, and that's exactly what happened on
Saturday with my girl.
She was over by Pure Universe,where they happened to have
somebody with their wristbandjust as the fire marshal closed
them down.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah, it got that bad that the fire marshal shut down
their booths.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Yeah, not even just shut down the line, they shut
down the booth.
Yeah, and then let them reopenit later or whatever after the
game An hour later or something.
Yeah, it was like you couldopen it at 11 or 12 or something
like that yeah, let's go dosomething else and come back.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
And bad, he still needed a wristband their problem
was, they were by the door andpeople were blocking the doors.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, that was uh and then, uh, bb
create was a mess as well.
Not quite not quite.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
It would have been okay if we had tried harder on
wednesday.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
I don't know, we didn't know they had an ada line
yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
But yeah, just because we were so limited on
our badges and we couldn't allgo at the same time all weekend,
we were just like, okay, cool,we just need to hit the shit
hard.
So we hit Wednesday reallyfucking hard.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
That might've been the hardest we've ever hit a
Wednesday.
Yeah, quite honestly.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, we're all here all weekend and you know I
couldn't wait in line tonight.
It's just fucking Wednesday,Right?

Speaker 4 (40:02):
line tonight.
It's just fucking wednesday,right, but if you saw a line you
were like okay, next thing,move on to the next thing.
Pretty much the next thing.
Yeah, we have our list.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
We had your list.
We're like we have hallmarkthis booth sucks, let's go over
here.
This booth sucks, let's trythis one.
Oh, let's get our stuff hereand move on to the next one.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yep, well, at least you guys, get a wristband here,
get a wristband here.
What's over here?
That's by this wristband thatwe just picked up.
Oh, we can pick up that.
That's over here.
Like the black and white starwork thing.
I was telling you that, oh,that's right here.
What's next?
Oh, this is right here, what'snext?
As we work our way back down,yeah, because we, because again,
between my list, his list,everybody's list, your list,
yeah, that thing.
So, between all, between all ofour lists, it was like okay,

(40:38):
what number, who needs what?
It's like oh, 3800 aisle.
Oh wait, I need something fromthere.
Oh wait, monogram, that line'sagainst the wall, never mind
Next one.
And it was a lot of that thoughthat Wednesday night.
Thursday was way easier.
Everybody had a badge forThursday.
We were able to get in.
I would say by Thursday.
We were probably 90% 95% donewith all of our shots.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, all we had to do was Roosevelt's daily things.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
We weren't going to be done with that right.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
No, that went through Saturday.
Yeah, because the last shirtwas.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Saturday Besides the Roosevelt stuff, how were the
lines and crowds and stuff likethat?

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I mean, lou actually was able to get through Hasbro
yeah twice Normal, hasbro Nice.
Yeah, they weren't in the lottoor anything.
Lou, just hey, I'm nice.
Yeah, yeah, they weren't in thelotto or anything.
Blue, just hey, I'm here athasbro.
What do you want?
I'm like, uh, gi, joe and uhfucking darth vader, yeah I
walked up and was like so how'sthe?

Speaker 2 (41:32):
it's like the line's open, you can get in there right
here.
I'm like wait, what so?
And they didn't have an adaline this year, so I just jumped
right into the line and therewas no light.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
It happened to me one time they were like line's open
dude if you want to go in.
I'm like wait, where's thequeue?

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Where's the people who are waiting for?

Speaker 2 (41:48):
the next.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Where are the people that are waiting for the noon
walk-ins Exactly?
Where's the break?

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Now that happened the last Sunday.
I went back there to pick upsome magic and there was the
booth, I guess the wall behindthe register and everything.
The line went back there andaround to the back side and then
they moved that line againstthe wall and then they still had
more people against the wall,against the booth, going around
the back side, and then they cutit off.

(42:16):
Then they're like okay, no morepeople over here from now on.
We're only gonna let peopleline up by the way.
But okay, but that was like thefirst.
I don't let people line up bythe way.
Okay, but that was like thefirst.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
I don't know, half hour or so of getting in, just
the queue of the people doingthe final push.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah, yeah, and it wasn't again wasn't bad.
The One GI Joe thing and theOne Magic thing sold out every
day.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
The Cold Slither, yeah, the Cold Slither.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Is that the Jeep?

Speaker 1 (42:41):
The band?
No, no, no, it was the bandthat sold out the top, which is
just a pre-release.
You can get that on pulse rightnow.
They just ship it next month.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
That was that was like for the mask stuff.
We were talking about that andI was like I originally wanted
the rhino, but then it was like,oh, it's a shared exclusive,
like, okay, whatever yeah, itloses it.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Yeah, I lost interest and stuff like that.
It was like, oh, it's just,it's just this, but yeah, so
that first go through, which wasI don't know Friday or whatever
it was, I grabbed my Jetfire.
It was there.
I think Jack had the ColdSlither Band, anakin and Obi-Wan
Anakin and Obi-Wan.
There wasn't much else.

(43:20):
I mean, I got a couple of magicthings and that was about it.
That bag was freaking hugethough, good lord yeah it was
well, let's well.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Then let's rewind a bit.
So how was your guys's, how wasthis comic-con for you guys
overall, like, if you guyswanted to do like a high level,
like fine, honestly withouthaving the badges, which is the
first year considering yes, theyconsidering only having the
split badges like they werePartial badges, yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Honestly, I had no problem.
Let's put it this way SaturdayI used a badge for maybe an hour
just to go get some stuffquickly, but I was outside doing
.
I would not have done thePredator Badlands thing if not
for that, and I'm glad I did it.
It was super cool.
I got to get a couple of drinksfor free while I was in there.

(44:07):
You know it was, I liked it, itwas and again, I would not have
done it if not for that.
So I'm kind of glad in thatsense.
I don't feel that I'm otherthan hanging out with everybody,
right, but even then, uh, westill saw each other pretty
often on saturday I mean westill went to lunch together,
remember we went to the barbecue, I think, on Saturday.

(44:28):
On top of that, we wouldn't haveseen a whole lot of each other
anyway, because my girl hadpanels so I wouldn't have seen
her for four hours anyway.
I mean it just Honestly, itjust happened to work out.
It was like I think a lot ofthat was the fact that Wednesday
, thursday, friday, we knockedout everything we wanted to
really get and Saturday.

(44:49):
Sunday.
Even with everybody having abadge on Sunday, saturday,
sunday was just basically allright.
We got what we want, other thanthe Roosevelt shirt on Saturday
.
It was just a matter of okay,cool, you guys got your party
going on.
I'll hang out with the oldestand we're going to watch the
masquerade.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah it was not bad.
I was expecting a little moreirritability, but yeah, yeah me
too.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
I was like, eh, it was.
It's one of those things where,like, if I had more time, I
would have did more outsidestuff, like like if if the older
one was 18, we would have didthe aliens thing and if I
wouldn't have got slapped andkicked in the head for going to
Abbott Elementary without her, Iwould have did that too.
She's over at the panel.

(45:35):
If I'm in line going to theAbbott Elementary, they ought to
be like oh, I can't believe youwent there without me.
I'm like you know what?
I'm good, I'm going to go playmagic for a bit.
I did.
I got a chance to go next doorand I did a draft that I hadn't
done in six years.
It was super cool.
So it was like Jack saying,even though we all didn't have
the badges, I was fine anyway.

(45:57):
I can't speak for everybodyelse, obviously, but I know I
was fine, I know my girl wasfine.
Well, she was fine because Iwas like here take the badge,
because we had the one to shareon.
Saturday.
It was like I don't have anypanels really.
So if you want to take thebadge to go to your shows, go.
She's like, are you sure?
She's all the whole.
I don't know how many times Iheard.
Are you sure?
Are you sure?

(46:17):
I'm like, yeah, I stop fuckingasking me, just go.
Yeah, exactly, that's moreimportant than this one.
Oh, I could go buy more stuffto sell, but that's never the
priority.
No, well, not since we gotmoney, I mean, uh, where I'm not
broke to go to comic-conanymore like this.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
This ain't 2006 yeah, right, you know where you're
using.
You're using what you're buyingat comic-con to pay for the
trip.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Yeah bruh, I was selling back then.
I was selling stuff the night.
We get back to the morning.
Yeah, you know, taking picturesin the hotel.
I would be going to bed in themorning.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Yeah, you'd be taking pictures in the hotel Room and
posting that shit.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
I would wake up in the morning because I had my
PayPal card back in the day, soI Get.
I was like, oh, somebody boughtthis.
Yeah, I have more Money to buymore stuff.
So that was the cycle 20 yearsago.
Now it's like, honestly, it'skind of funny Because even Jack
brought this up.
He's like man, you're sellingmore this year and as part of it
is because I know I have stuffcoming up.
The other part I missed it.

(47:10):
It kind of reminded me of thepin hunting thing.
So, being able to buy stuff, Iwill buy stuff and sell it for
cost, as in minus fees, it'll becost, it'll make zero profit,
but it was fun to do, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
So it was like it's like well, it really is it
really is a game.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Yeah, the only thing I I plan on on profiting would
be the roosevelt's.
Everything else is like oh, ifI make money, great, but it's
just.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
And even then, if you , if you're in your groups and
they're guys who are like, ohyeah, pick this up for me, pick
this up for me, you might dolike a convenience charge, right
like 20 bucks or whatever, butyou're not saying, oh, this 70
shirt is going to be 210 for youin your trading group.
You know, like we don't yeah,we definitely don't do that.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
So well, that's good like but yeah, so that was me
jack.
How about you?

Speaker 1 (47:59):
it was fine.
I mean, well, like you said,saturday was the roughest day
because that was when we had theleast amount of badges.
But wife and little one, theywent to go watch Smurfs.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
They weren't happy about that Bad review on the
Smurfs.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah, but no, they were doing their thing.
So me and oldest I think thatwas when we did Marvel Rivals we
got the Roswell bands and wewent over there to do marvel
rivals, because she's super intojeff the shark right now and
they were selling it.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
I was gonna say then you went and picked up the band
from uh, oh, girl, yeah yeah,yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
And then, yeah, like we got bored, I'm like, well,
let's just go sit in a panel,let's go to ballroom 20.
I don't know what's in thereright now, but it's ballroom 20,
right, so it'll be somethingit'll be it'll be top tier it'll
be.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
It'll be top tier as far as what their presentation
versus whatever the other panelsare.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah, I mean they're like six d, e and f, like that's
gonna be that I mean it endedup being family guy, so it
wasn't that great, oh wow butagain as far as there so he was
entertaining, but as far as ifyou would have went to like six
d and f, it would have been somepodcast or something like that.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
It's like Crapshoot, but Boron 20, it's going to be.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Named.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Mid-tier kind of stuff.
Right, it's not Hall H.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
But it's close and the worst-case scenario is you
get some sort of giveaway, youget a ticket, you, you get some
sort of giveaway, you get aticket.
You go pick up some stuff thatyou sell Right, like yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Even if it's not something new.
I just realized you nor her,none of y'all got tickets for
any panel, huh.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
We did.
We got some for Five Nights atFriday's, but it was just pizza
boxes that they had left overfrom like New York Comic Con
last year.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
So nobody wanted to walk all that way for some
flat-ass pizza boxes, because Iknow we got our print from the
Galaxy's Edge one, but that wasit, I think.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
How were your lawyer panels Lou?

Speaker 2 (49:52):
It didn't even go, really yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
He showed up and I'm like what are you doing here?

Speaker 2 (49:57):
I couldn't even tell you why.
I was probably just tired.
I don't know what it was.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
I think that is what you said.
Yeah, it scared me.
You like popped up.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
I was like oh, all right, are you not going to
jurassic park?

Speaker 2 (50:10):
it was six o'clock to six o'clock on thursday and
then seven o'clock on friday, orvice versa, and it was like
yeah at the end of the day,you're like I'm done, it's time
for yeah, yeah, thursday, friday, I it.
Well, that was Wednesday.
Wednesday was getting out ofthe freaking parking lot, oh my
god.
That was horrible.
An hour and 13 minutes I timedit To leave the.

(50:33):
Not even to get to ourrestaurant.
To leave the garage was an hourand 13 minutes they had issues
with the gate.
What that?
was.
They had issues with the gatedownstairs.
Yeah, To leave Exit gate.
People didn't have theirtickets to release it.
It didn't matter.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
The tickets didn't work because on Thursday we did
have our ticket and it didn'topen the gate.
It said oh, we can't read yourticket.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
I forgot about that Something.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I was about to break into the control box and just
release the gate.
Reprogram that shit man justread tools.
I was about to break into thecontrol box and just release the
gate, reprogram that shit.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Yeah, man Just right there.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
It was just closed with a zip ties and I make her
and I make her keep a knife inher car, you know to cut the
seatbelt off in case anythinghappens.
So I was like give me yourknife.
And they're like, oh no, wefigured out how to open the gate
.
I'm like, yeah, you betterfuckers.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Put your flesh and a knife to the camera.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
I would have been looking at the gate mechanism
and whatever bolt is on there.
Pull that bitch off and then itjust opened.
Or just sit on it, that's true,just jump on it.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
I tried lifting it up , pushing on it.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
I'm sorry I missed that.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
I bet that would have been hilarious to see have a
little one think it's a toy andshe just jump all over it yeah,
yeah, yeah, except she ain't gotno weight to break it no yeah
yeah, it would have been likeher whole 70 pounds
yeah, it would be a springboardfor her at that point, oh man.

(52:04):
But yeah, yeah, so both, bothof them.
It was just like.
It was like you know what, I'mjust tired.
And then one of them the firstone was further away too.
It was like I don't really wantto walk all the way over there,
the second one all the way backyeah, exactly, the second one
was in like 24 ab or somethinglike that.
So it's up right next to salesfor those and all that, that one
wasn't as bad, but again Ididn't get a lot of sleep.

(52:26):
I was up taking a shower beforeI go to bed, so I don't think I
went to bed before one.
Even when we got back early, Istill didn't go to bed before
one.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
And you drove in.
I mean, you had a rough week.
You had a rough week.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
I wasn't getting no chicken nugget reviews, lou, so
obviously there's no reason foryou to have been up bass one
chicken nuggets and freaking.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
I want that watermelon beer.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
Yeah was there any other?
Did you guys do any otheroffsite stuff besides the
predator thing?

Speaker 1 (53:01):
I took Lou's girl.
We got to, we got into thepeacemaker thing.
That was kind of cool.
Uh, they had it like anightclub, so they had like a
whole stage set up yeah, yeah,she was dancing apparently the
whole time.
Yeah, she was.
She was getting her white girlon dude.
They were playing.
It was just a cover band.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
It's steel panther you may or not have heard of
them.
Uh, I love steel panther.
They're the best.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Yeah.
So I mean they come out, theydo like some Bon Jovi and some
Ozzy and shit I've seen.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Steel.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Panther twice in concert, please continue.
And she was just sitting there,she was getting her white girl
on singing and everything.
But they gave us that's aboutright.
They gave us a drink.
It was Arizona vodka tea orsomething.
It wasn't bad.
Yeah, it wasn't bad.
Um, we got a peacemaker mask, apeacemaker towel, and then they

(53:50):
had some merch you could buy.
So I grabbed a pin and sometrading cards.
I don't think I ever opened,and then everything was sold out
, because why wouldn't it besold out on the second day that
you're open?

Speaker 4 (54:03):
so it was.
It was a shawn of the dead.
Basically, yeah, except can wehave those socks?
They?

Speaker 1 (54:10):
said um, here's a qr code.
There will be pre-order openfor all weekends, so I was able
to get a shirt still nice.
And the weird thing is it allcame through the mcfarlane store
.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
That was weird hmm, yeah well, they have the
mcfarlane has the dc license, soI wonder the figure license so
I wonder if they just he hasmore than that.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
He does like the collectible statues and shit too
.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Yeah, well, I just I was like, if they don't, I'm
guessing that it was probablyeasier to just contract with
them, since they already had forsure and then they, then they
handle all the logistics, whichmeans, yeah, dc doesn't have to
do anything.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Exactly, but no, it was a cool show.
It was a little bit of a walk,but it helped us find the
barbecue place that we like, sowe had that the next day on
Saturday.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Yeah, how was that spaghetti factory?

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Good, like always.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
And Joe's crab chat.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
No meltdowns was.
Went way smoother this time,good I was.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Yeah, it was actually pretty fine.
It was just a matter of gettingeverybody there at the same
time, and once we were there, Imean, lunch was fine.
Uh, waitress is cute, so thatmatters.
That means the food tastesbetter.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
I think the only thing that, um, the only thing I
saw on my list that we didn'ttalk about was just the ed9
print, because I was like uh,okay, but I was oh I, I went
there, yeah, because I went tothat booth and I asked about it
and it sold out okay, well, Ithey weren't even very cool,
like, it was one of those thingswhere it was on the the blog
page and they were like we havethese eight prints, like, but

(55:46):
they didn't have prices oranything on them, so that's why
I was like can you find out whatthe price is?
Because if it's like 80 bucks,I'm like, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
No, no, a lot of exactly a lot of that stuff,
like like the stickers andeverything.
A lot of that stuff was cheap.
But I had to pull up your thingand I was talking to the the
vendor with the booth and it waslike, um, and he wanted, uh,
this thing.
And I was talking to the vendorwith the booth and it was like
and he wanted this thing.
And I was like I don't knowwhat this is.
And I showed it to her andshe's like, oh, we sold out of
that one.
I'm like, okay, it's fine.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
It was like third tier, like it would have been
like, okay, I would be cool withhaving it, but I'm not like
disappointed.
It didn't.
You know, if I cared that muchabout it, I would just get a
commission done of it and spendway too much money on it, right,
probably?
That is definitely how thatworks.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
But I'm pulling up your list now.
So the Roosevelt, that wasyesterday's that wasn't
happening.
It was going to happen untilthe Fire Marshal shut down their
ADL.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
Okay, so the Fire Marshal was fucking all over the
place through this.
Yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Fire Marshal wasn't playing.
Let's see BB Create.
We told you about that one.
The B-Line was good because OldGirl wanted the same cups you
wanted.
So we went there and then shepre-ordered the Ewok set because
they were giving you a discountif you pre-ordered it from
there on site instead of lateron.

(57:05):
So she did that.
Your print was pretty cool.
That was last day I was worriedabout taking a print and then
the staff were like, oh no,they're all rolled, I'm like,
and the cardboard too.
I'm like, oh well, that makesit easy to do that.
That's that decision.

(57:26):
Old girl ended up getting theK2SO one and the artist was an
artist alley, so she took itover there to get signed.
And then, for yours, the artistcame over to the booth and did
signing.
So it was like, oh well, hell,yours is signed too.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
Yeah, I was going to ask about that, but I was like I
don't want to get greedy and belike oh, once you buy this, can
you go over here and do like Iwas like did you know that that
Russell Walker was there?

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Oh well, you should have next time bring it up,
because that's no big deal, likethat type of stuff, especially
knowing how the artistsappreciate, you know somebody
coming over like that.
So yeah, that's not a big deal,but yeah, they only had oh God,
was it nine, ten left, orsomething like that.
So the artist came over andsigned them all and I was like,
oh, they're rolled.
I will take one right nowbecause I don't have my top

(58:14):
loader with me all this.
I was like that's going to be apain.
But once they said it wasrolled, it was easy.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Then, while we were there, they had the Vader one,
that one.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
they had six left and an old girl bought one for her
son and the artist actually camearound the corner to sit down.
I guess he had a time slot forabout an hour to be there and
they had six left and some ladyin front of us bought one and
got it signed and got a picturewith him.
And then, same thing with her,she got it one signed for her
son and got a picture with himas well.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
That was the Revenge of the Sith one.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Yep, Nice.
So got that the Neil sticker.
Grab that.
Oh yeah, oh, that's right.
Val was the one that had the Edand Ein print the first day we
went there.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Yeah, we tried on Wednesday night.
She had a line at the end ofthe night still.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Yep, we're like nope.
But later then the next day onFriday, like midday, old girl's
over there and she's like, oh,I'm over here chatting with the
vendor.
I'm like, oh wait, there's noline.
She's like, no, I'll just walkup.
I'm like, oh, so I met her overthere.
And that's when I asked aboutthe print and then got the
sticker.
Then she ended up buying like ahundred bucks worth of stuff
from that movie.

(59:25):
I think that's where we pickedup Jack's stuff too.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
I think that's the one that had the Joker yeah,
Harley and Joker and then theFallout stickers.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
That was the picture I sent.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
The Neil sticker stuff.
Was there any luck on theThursday or Friday?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
No, he only had like ten of each.
That's what I put I was justlike the Neil sticker.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
The other stuff would have been cool to get.
But I was like mostly for youguys too, to just kind of like,
if you guys hadn't seen it, Iwas like, oh, he has these other
prints that he's doing.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Well, I'll tell you what, though Going over there
bought more stuff, so it workedout.
It worked out, so it wasn'tjust your sticker that was
purchased.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Yeah, that's where my oldest spent all her money too.
Stickers, little prints.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Oh yeah, and then UCC Jack got through UCC actually
Nice, but they were sold out ofjust about everything.
Got the Space Ghost, thoughYesterday's no Octo wasn't there
.
Oh, and then Old Girl got yourTaylor Swift lanyard because she
had some other stuff to getfrom that same vendor.

(01:00:32):
Nice, that K-Pop Devil Demon.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Hunter, thing, yeah that.
Thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
So she was like oh well, this is where Duke wants
his thing, so I'll just get hislanyard while I'm over.
I'm like all right, cool.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Nice, yeah, duke wants his thing, so I'll just
get his lanyard while I'm over.
I'm like, alright cool, nice,yeah, I mean.
Thankfully it doesn't seem likeanything was too hard, except
for the BB Create stuff which is, you know, you still got the
pin, the San Diego pin, sowhatever.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Yeah, you're right.
Overall, your list wasn't toocrazy, it really wasn't the
problem.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
D is why it costs so much is because you sent us to
go buy you shit.
That's true.
That's true.
If you sent a regular person togo buy shit, they'd be like 50
dollars 280.
Yeah, you would be like hellyeah, 280 for comic-con.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
No, we're like, okay, not here doesn't exist, can't
get this one fire marshal, firemarshal.
Okay, cool, I got everythingelse.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
There had to be external pressures On us to not
get what you want.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
You sent vets man you sent vets.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
This ain't my first rodeo son, so you guys got
everything.
As far as what you guys wanted,you guys got everything.
Was there any surprises I had?
I had actually written off.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
UCC, because they had and you guys got everything
that you would, was there anysurprises Was there any stuff
that I had actually written offUCC, because they had the Harley
and Joker Fuggler dolls.
I'm like, oh shit, that linefucking sucks right, but I was
able to get in Friday orSaturday.
I'm like, oh, okay, cool.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
I can't believe there was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Go ahead.
Sorry Surprises though Stuff Ibought, I wasn't expecting to Go
ahead.
Sorry Surprises, though, Likestuff I bought, I wasn't
expecting to no.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
There was for me.
That was a symbiote, I didn'tknow.
Do you remember last year theyhad the Dinobot I think it was
Sludge that had the eyes poppingout, because when somebody
stepped on him it was thatversion from the movie or the
episode, cartoon, whatever.
This year they had a regularsludge and I and that matches

(01:02:29):
more with the set that I'm doingand even the exclusive this
year what the blackhead, thegeneration two snarl, was wrong
because it's not the regular,the proper one, and they had a
regular one of that.
So I was able to get both ofthose dino bots that I was not
expecting.
That symbiote, um, along withthe laser beak, the one that
sits on, he's the magnet thatsits on your shoulder.

(01:02:49):
Yeah, yeah, so I was able to getthose, and I was not expecting
to get those two dino bots.
Nice, that was kind of coolthat was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
That was a nice surprise.
I'm looking at my haul and I'mlike no, that was pretty much
everything that was on my list.
I don't think I got a wholebunch of extra.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
I'm looking at mine now too.
I was able to get the LukeVader from Moose Toys, I got the
Skyfire.
I got the Symbiote plushes, Igot my She-Ra Thrilljoy, the BB
Create Death Star.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
So you said Space Ghost was sold out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
No, yeah, you and Jack's wifey each got one.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Nice Hopefully.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I got.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
Mintok, the Mind Taker.
Is that a chase?
Yeah?
Yeah, they had two chases withthe Space Ghost.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
She didn't open hers yet either so I don't know, I
mean you're right, she had twochases off open hers yet either,
so I don't know.
I mean you're right, She-Ra hadtwo chases off, so I didn't
open mine either.
And then Old Girl wanted one,so I don't know if she opened
hers, but the animation stillsold out.
The animation still sold out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Yeah, they sold out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
I also went to go get the Jetfire print Because the
Jetfire from Hasbro came withthe comic book.
The artist who did the cover ofthe comic book was in artist
alley, so went over there andhad to have jack pay for it
because it was cash or paypalonly and it was like I didn't
bother getting any.
I was funny as hell, dude.
I was like I yeah yeah, you'retexting.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
I'm like where are you?
He did.
He's just like where are you at?
Where?
Are you at?
We're.
We're in artist alley like hhor something, or no.
We're in or something.
No, no, no.
You're in g, like gg yeah,you're in like.
Alley like HH or something orno, we were in Inn or something.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
No, no, no, you were in GG.
You were in GG or HH and I wasover in EE.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Yeah, he's like.
I'm like, okay, he's like paythis man, pay this man with
PayPal, pay this man his moneyPay him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
I was like do you have any cash?
He's like how much'm like 120?
He's like nope, because I it'sfunny I actually wrote in my
checkbook to take out cash,anticipating that I would take
out cash 500 bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
I know everybody does card these days and I never
bothered to do it, neverbothered to pull out the cash no
, uh, no experiences like we hadlast year, where we spent 15
minutes wandering around fuckingartist alley looking for the
artist, while you were standingright next to oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
No, because because that's the booth I pre-ordered
my sound wave.
I knew where he was.
This year it was the exact samespot and I do, I was.
I walked right up to him.
This time.
I knew exactly where he was.
Um, let's see.
Fig, figpin, transformers,comet.
The Genshin Impact cookbook formy niece.

(01:05:28):
Yeah, there's not anythingthat's not checked off my list
that I wanted to get.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Jack, I should have had you look for the Devil's Due
booth, like we did last year.
You know what I didn't see them.
They said they were there.
I don't know which one's that.
That's the one that they'redoing, like the boys GI Joe
crossover thing.
Like it's not licensed byeither, but it's like GI Joe,

(01:05:57):
but super violent.
So I backed their Kickstarter.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Oh, okay, yeah, not familiar with it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
So yeah, I thought I could.
I Not familiar with it.
So yeah, I thought I'll have tolook it up.
I could do it later.
But I could have sworn.
They said that they were goingto be there, but I didn't see
anything as far as specifics, orI would have probably said
something.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
But I just searched vendors.
They're not there.
They were not there.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
Or Massive.
I think Massive is.
Let me see if I can find herMassive Chaos.
Give me a second.
Let me see here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Oh, you know, I guess , the one downside.
Remember day one when youroldest tried to use the Lotto
win and they carded her.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
So that was a fail.
Wait what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
Wait, go on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
So there was a Lotto win for Pop Mart to get Labubus.
Okay, except it was one of ourpeople who wasn't there Not your
badge, but the other one, soshe had the QR code to go get in
the line.
But they asked for.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
ID.
I've raised her to honestlybecause her badge matched.
She was like bro, I'm 14, Idon't have ID, but she wouldn't
do it and she was like bro, I'm14.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
I don't have ID, but she wouldn't, do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
And she could have passed for 18 to go through the
Alien Earth experience, butshe's like nope.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Too honest, too honest.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
Yeah, the last update , the last Kickstarter update.
They said the massive team isofficially back from San Diego
Comic-Con and after anincredible weekend of panels,
signings and spreading the word.
Well, they did signing, so Iwonder if they were with
somebody else maybe.
Oh yeah, so like they were partof some other group that you
would have yeah, you probably,I'm guessing.
If we were, if I've actuallystill had facebook or instagram

(01:07:36):
or whatever, I'm guessing Iwould have been able to figure
it out more.
So the one downside of notbeing on social media is that
type of stuff like do they dothey have?
Like, just what is it?
Subscribe email.
A lot of times they'll do email.
The one downside of not beingon social media is that type of
stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
That's where all the news is.
Do they have like just what?
Is it subscribe email.
A lot of times they'll do email.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
I have to look into it.
I just did their Kickstarterstuff so I don't know if they
have anything official yet.
I know they've been pushing theother line that they have
something.
Sparks Mercy Sparks, I think,is what it's called.
That was like a line.
That was a comic they had along time ago when when devils
do like first came out with thegi joe and all that.

(01:08:13):
That was another one of their.
They only had like three orfour uh comic lines that they
were doing and that was one ofthem, so they just redid that.
So I've been getting a lot ofemails about that as well,
because they're like oh you, youback this, so here's another
project from them probably likethis, yeah, so I'm guessing they
were also pushing that prettyhard over the weekend as well,
probably let's see what else.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
I guess that sunday was fairly quiet.
Matter of fact, I don't eventhink we rolled in until they
open, like we timed it yeah, sonot even get there until they.
Yeah, and we did.
We in the line we walked in thebuilding as the line was moving
to get into the exhibit hall,so we timed that just to do that
.
Like I said, last minute stuff,I got some of the magic from

(01:08:55):
Hasbro.
We just kind of just hitwhatever.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Was that when you guys had 100% soft?
It was Sunday, right?

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Yes, it was at 10.30.
So we kind of just walked thefloor until it was time to go to
100 soft and, uh, his oldestwanted a backup pin.
Um, and my girl was short a pinbecause it went to her old to
his oldest two days before.
So it was like okay, so we go,we got that filled out.

(01:09:23):
I got one of the exclusivegalactuses, which is weird, man,
it's a $100 thing.
I sell them for $300.
It was like whoa okay, but it'skind of cool and I might want
to keep it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
He is nice and glittery.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
He's glittery and he's holding the sad earth.
It was like no, that might notbe so good that might go on the
bed, Lou I know you have astuffed animal hammock in the

(01:09:54):
corner of your bedroom with allyour stuffed animals.
There's only like nine in there.
And they're Dinobots, okay,yeah, well, not the pig.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
They're 80% Dinobots.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Okay, yeah, there's that.
I have to keep the other onesdown because Ogre was youngest,
so if she stays over she'll playwith them all.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
Dinobots not allowed no no, keep those at a hand's
reach.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Megatron Soundwave.
You don't get to touch them.
Keep your groby hands off theother ones.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Soundwave.
You don't get to touch them.
Keep your groovy hands off theother ones have at it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
You want to play with the other four?
Do your thing.
We hit whatever tea party youwant.
That's our thing, that's whatwe mentioned.
We went through that on SundayOnce, basically, I was done
because they were waiting for meto get through the line, and
once I was done there, that'swhen we walked over to the hotel
next door to do the Galaxy ofthe Edge.

(01:10:50):
But before that we happened toget there an hour early for the
panel before.
And it was church.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Holy heroes.
There you go Like yeah, so itwas how their beliefs shaped the
jobs they take, or like howthey play certain characters.
But uh, james arnold taylor wasup there.
I'm like all right, fine, if wehave to listen to obi-wan talk
for an hour.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Yeah, whatever, yeah it's actually not a bad panel,
no it wasn't I was interested.
It was, it was an interestingpanel.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
It was like, all right, this is kind of cool so
were they talking about from asfar as, like, a voice actor
perspective or from thecharacter Just in general,
because they had an atheist?

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
writer up there or something and she wrote stuff.
They did have a couple of voiceactors.
The guy moderating the panelworked in comics Batman, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Because he worked with one of the panelists on.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Batman.
Yeah, so there was a couple ofcomic book guys.
Yeah, two artists, two writers,and then the voice actor and it
was like well, you're Jewish,how are you going to write for
Shang-Chi?
Well, I would write it how Iwould want somebody to write for
my religion.
You know, like respectful andlearn about it a little bit.
But they're like, just berespectful and you know kind of

(01:12:07):
learn what their Stuff is alittle bit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
And then the girl.
I can't remember her name, buther the atheist.
Her approach was really simple.
She's like well, I'm notWriting it for me, I'm writing
it for the character, so thecharacter has to Feel this way.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
I don't have to feel this way.
The character dictates.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Exactly the emotion.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
So that was kind of cool to have that play I was
like, all right, it was actually, I mean, early on, I'm sitting
there organized all I have thisbig ass hasbro bag and have a
bunch of stuff and prints and Ipicked up some disc plates, um,
and it was going through and itwas like organizing stuff.
And then, as I'm doing it, I'mlistening obviously and I'm like
I'm actually interested in whatthey have to say so I finished
up my organizing as best, asquickly as I'm doing it.

(01:12:47):
I'm listening, obviously, andI'm like I'm actually interested
in what they have to say.
So I finished up my organizingas best as I could put it, like
on the chair in front of me andI was just actually paying
attention to the panel.
It was no longer playing on myphone or whatever, Like
sometimes you do.
You're waiting for your panel.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
I was actually into it.
And then was it the same typeof Galaxy's Edge panel as it was
last year.
Yeah, galaxy's Edge panel as itwas last year?

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Yeah, just like updates.
You know talking about Galaxy'sEdge.
What's new, what's the?

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
hotness, wasn't those the same people?
I didn't go last year, sowasn't it the same people?

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
Oh, that's cool.
Did you get the little notebookor whatever they gave out?

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
No, they gave us a print, Bruh.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
they gave us an 11x17 print Nice, because I think
last year we just got apostcard-sized thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Uh-uh, they gave out an 11x17 print to everybody.
The artist was there, so afterwe got our prints, we went over
to Small Press and had him signthem all.
Nice, very cool, so we had anextra one for you as well, oh
thanks guys.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
I'll have to send you a picture of it.
It's somewhere.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
I just saw it earlier .

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
It's on the blog too, if you go to the blog.
They put a picture of the print.
Yeah, it should have been.
They gave us a handful Nice,Because obviously they gave it
and passed it down.
We ended up with seven of thesethings.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
There are only like five people in our row or
something.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
I took three one for me, my girl and her son, and
then left the other four withjack and he just has his and one
for you.
I don't think the girls wanthim.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
So yeah, I'm sure he's got the two extras, in case
somebody decides well it's goodthat we've done you you've done
or I say we you've done thegalaxy's edge panel, and both
times it's been good like it'sit's I think it's hard
especially if it's the samepeople doing the same topic.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
We were just at Celebration and I actually went
to the Disneyland panel atCelebration.
So they didn't tell me nothingnew.
I'm like, yeah cool, I knowabout the robots and the updates
to Smuggler's Run andeverything.
I didn't learn anything new.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
So I was like okay cool.
Yeah, all of it was basically,but again it's also supporting
right.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
They have the people clicking, so they know.
It was a full panel dude, yeah,but I'm saying they have the
people with the clickers at thedoors sometimes too.
So, they're keeping track ofhow many people.
So it's like if you want thatGalaxy's Edge group to keep
coming back, go to that panel,even if it's nothing new,
because it's supporting you knowoh yeah, I, I agree, man, it

(01:15:08):
was.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
It was well received.
I don't, I don't know that itwasn't the biggest of rooms,
obviously, but I don't know ifthere were more than 20 panel
there a couple years ago brothat was.
Was it that room?

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
that was the cereal panel we went to I wasn't sure
if it was or not?
Yeah, did you go?
Uh, go ahead.
Look.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
Sorry, I kind of missed that cereal, though I was
like I, I when panel we went to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
I wasn't sure if it was or not.
Go ahead, Luke, I kind ofmissed that cereal, though.
When they switched over toFunko I was disappointed.
The cereal boxes was kind of acool panel.
Then I got hijacked by all theFunko stuff.
But I don't think there weremore than maybe 20, 30 seats
open.
It was pretty packed in there.
Our row had maybe one open seat.
The row in front of us had oneopen seat.

(01:15:47):
If they split it to left, right, middle, the left side probably
only had front and back Onlyhad five open seats.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
Nice Good for them.
Yeah.
People love themselves someGalaxy's Edge, I'm guessing it's
probably also California.
I'm guessing you have that samepanel in New York.
They were.
Those people are florida people.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Oh, that's true, yeah , yeah, yeah, it was
embarrassing for them.
Yeah, none of the panelists,they were florida people.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
They're disney world people no, no, but I mean if
they do that same panel in newyork or chicago, or when it well
, I don't know if it's not goingover as well.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Yeah, but being in Southern, California.
Down the street.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Yeah down the street.
That makes sense.
Look, it was a good enoughpanel that I was all like, well,
maybe timing-wise I'll skipDecember Disney and save it for
May instead.
I mean, I said that shit outloud.
I was like they had meinterested.
It was like, oh, maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
I'll just leave.
Yeah, I'll go opening weekendfor the Grogu shit.
It'll be crazy busy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Dude, not even I said it out loud.
I said that out loud during thebattle.
I was like man.
Maybe you should do this.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
I mean, if we want to shift it to May, I'm okay with
that.
We haven't committed toanything as far as paying for
stuff.
So if we want to do that nextyear for our Disney trip or
whatever our big group trip likeI'm fighting with that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Do it May instead of December?
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
I can speak for two, that it won't matter to us Like
we'll do either, I'll do both.
Yeah, I was going to say Idon't have a whole lot of 2026
action coming up, so that may beboth.
Anyway, I was thinking aboutthat after.
I think they're in a drive backand I'm sitting there like okay
, so what's going?
I know, obviously 27 iscelebration yeah, yeah, 27 is

(01:17:35):
crazy yeah, 27 is celebrationand then, and all all things
willing, uh, stcc.
And then 26 obviously stcc.
I'm like, is that all I haveHuh Interesting?
And I was like, yeah, I guessthat's it.
So may may happen.
Anyway, we'll see, but that maybe a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
We can make a whole weekend out of it.
We can go to LCAP and watchGrogu and Mando.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
That's true, we could do like a Thursday to Monday
thing or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Yeah, and I'll have PTO enough to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
We won't be a leave without pay.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
Yeah, working remotely Guys, I'm busy until
noon.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Shit, I used to go into bed at 1 o'clock anyway,
just work after hours.
Oh wait, we're at Disney untilmidnight.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
Lou's on his phone on the bus, falling asleep.
Oh my God.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
I'm answering emails from the shuttle, from the tram,
oh yeah, but yeah Again, itmight be both Seriously, because
I thought about it and I can'tthink of anything else.
I had planned for 2026.
So yeah, we'll see.
The other option is I may justsay fuck it and go to Japan in
the fall.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
And for 2026?
.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen, but I'm
not opposed.
I'm not going to rule it outyet.
Not saying no but.
Yeah, I mean with nothing onthe schedule.
It leaves a lot of opportunity.
So Maybe I'll do that while oldgirl takes her daughter To
wherever they go Ireland,whatever their senior, because

(01:19:14):
they have to graduate To nextyear so wherever her trip is.
But you go, do that, I'll be inJapan.
I'll see you later.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Your time zones will be all fucked up.
Yeah, no shit.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
For real.
Oh my God.
Hey, there's no Discord channelthat's going to help us.
Nope.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Let me check my voicemail in the morning man for
real, I'll leave you a videomessage, so you know what I look
like he's turning Japanese.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
He thinks he's turning Japanese.
He really thinks so, for real.
That's not even a joke, man.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
So yeah, so glad that Comic-Con worked out as well,
because I mean it was kind ofdicey.
I mean nobody got raffle stuff.
We didn't get one raffle win atall between everybody, right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Just 100%, soft 100% soft.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Okay, so we had one person get one, popmart and
Tamashii Nations, okay, which Ididn't even use.
Nope, yeah, didn't even have toLater in the week, it was a
walk-up.
What did you guys think of?

Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
Fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Four.
I liked it.
I enjoy it now more, after thefact.
I didn't enjoy it as muchduring it.
But now thinking about it I'mlike you know I'm going to have
to go watch that again Becauseof the theater.
I'm kind of liking it.
The theater was fine for me.
Jack was the one that was hot.
I was fine.
Like hearing that right now isthe first I heard that I had not
heard that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
I didn't realize it Again.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
That might be why my girl freaking passed out at 12.
But again I think it was moretired.
But if she gets comfy like that, then hello.
So maybe that'll be a.
I have a meeting Tuesday so Ican't go this week.
So maybe next week I don't knowwhat's coming out to see what's
Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
We're getting to the doldrums, my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
Okay, in that case I may do that on next Tuesday and
watch it again, but I did, mayuh do that on uh next tuesday
and watch it again, but I I didenjoy it I.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
It was a little shorter than I was expecting it
moved um.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
It moved fast, like you were, it was, it was an hour
.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
It was an hour and 45 .
It's like the shortest marvelmovie ever fucking 10 years or
some shit, was it?

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
155 with credits and they got the.
They got those scenes.
I told this to jack too.
The end credit scene and theend movie scene.
They got those.
They need to told this to Jacktoo.
The end credit scene and theend movie scene.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
They need to flip those two scenes.
Yeah, they should have flippedthem.
Yeah, I was mad.
I'm like we stayed for acartoon.
Fuck this.
Yep, I was like you got to bekidding me.

Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
Well, and it was a call out to Jack Kirby.
I mean, that's what that was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Yeah, a lot of that movie was and it was fine.
Again, I I I didn't like that.
It didn't.
It just didn't seem like enoughwas happening, although
everything was happening, it waslike non-stop, but not enough
was happening.

Speaker 4 (01:21:51):
For me it was weird, so I didn't feel like it.
It was rushed, though I don'tfeel like they were rushing from
which was no, which was weirdbecause usually when there's not
a lot of exposition and you'rejust going like and people in
your, they just kind of expectyou to know what's going on and
just kind of go with it, like Iwas glad that, I was glad we got
like a five minute opening ofof their origin and we didn't go

(01:22:14):
through the whole fuckingmission Like hey, guess what
this shit happened?
Cool, I like that.
I don't cause again.
Everyone knows the origin.
We don't need Superman's origin, we don't need Batman's origin,
we don't need the FantasticFour's origin.
I think the callbacks with thecomic covers and that type of
thing of them fighting the greenmonster and the mole men and
that type of thing I thought wasreally good.

(01:22:36):
I've seen a few YouTube channelswhere the title is like what
was better, superman orFantastic Four, and I'm like you
don't have to pick.
Both.
I thought were really Like, ifwe're doing a soft reset of the
MCU, I think this is a fine wayto start it, you know, and for
Superman, same type of thing, Ithink, if you're resetting the

(01:22:57):
DCU, like, I'm not saying I'msuper excited for the future of
both universes, but I don't havea problem with them going.
Okay, we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
so um, first of all, you can compare them.
Uh, you, you, you, you can likeone more than the other, but I
I I'll put it in the that wholestar trek, star wars universe
type thing.
You know they're not the same,they're you in that sense.
Do you want-fi or do you wantsci-fantasy?

(01:23:26):
Take your pick.
Superman.
The way I look at it is simpleas this.
You had to go pick one of themto watch again.
Which one are you watching?
And to me that tells you whichone you like more.
I've seen Superman twice.
It's hard for me to say,because I would pick Fantastic
Four just to balance that out.
But does that mean I likeFantastic Four over Superman?

(01:23:47):
I don't think so.
I don't think I like them bothequally as well.
I think I would probably watchSuperman again over Fantastic
Four, but it would be very close.
That's because of my mood rightnow.
Ask me again next Sunday whenwe do this and I might pick
Fantastic Four.
I mean, it's hard to say.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Because they're different movies.
They are.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
The people who are like Duke saying, no, he's right
, you can't just go with.
I have to pick one.
The YouTube comparison who didit better?
Who reset their universe better?
Man, they both reset.
Move on, stop tripping it's.
You don't have to makeeverything a competition.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
I.
What I liked about both of them, like I was saying earlier with
fantastic four is what I likedabout both of them is that they
I thought they both did a reallygood balance of explaining
things without explainingeverything Right, like both
movies did a good job of likethere was some assumptions
through both that you kind ofunderstood what was going on and

(01:24:50):
if you didn't get it, like itwasn't you, if you got it, you
got more out of it but youdidn't get hurt by not knowing
it, if that makes sense I did.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
I got hurt by not knowing why hot girl's screaming
all the goddamn time.

Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
But that's a.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
And there's Lou's answer.
Fuck Superman.
Yeah, there you go, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
Fantastic Four, that's my answer.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
I just said.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
Kirby better.
I did lean over to my friendand say shit, it's Superman.
When we were watching Superman,lou would have hit me.
We're never watching Supermantogether.
I don't know why that shit's sofunny to me.
He's like I wanted to hate thatguy but I couldn't.

(01:25:36):
I respect it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Oh man Lou, when you get a second, look at your
canvas and look at the COA onthe back.
A little something on there.
Ooh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
Spicy.
Go do it right now, Lou.
Pause the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
I'm all looking over, I'm all like.
I know exactly where it is too.
It's in the bedroom on top of aFunko box.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Of course it is.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Next to my lamp.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
How was Funko not having a big presence at
comic-con for you guys this year?

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
weird man.
It was weird.
I only walked over to thatsection one time on friday I
think maybe thursday it mighthave been saturday that we went
over there and I went to thatcorner where all this stuff
usually is and where the peopleare usually walking back and
forth trying to rush to get intothe line when the regular line
opens up.
Man, it was clear, it was easyto walk back there.

(01:26:28):
It was not a whole lot going on.
If.
I made an effort.
I probably could have gottenthe overflow line just fine, but
just didn't bother to make theeffort.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
When we were back there, there was nobody in line,
even though it was still timed,and they were still yelling at
everybody Keep walking, keepwalking.
I and they're still yelling ateverybody, keep walking, keep
walking.
I'm like ain't nobody trying toget in your stupid ass line.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
bro, Call me on security.
It's like nobody.
Yeah, exactly, it was actuallypretty weak for what they had to
present.
So yeah, like I said, I thinkit was Thursday around three or
four, something like that.
It might have been Friday, buteither way, I know it was late
afternoon and I know we walkedover and we both kind of looked
around like this is weird.
Yeah, why is it in that house?

(01:27:10):
Why?

Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
isn't the fire marshal over here, yep?
Why is he shooting at?

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Roosevelt For real, though, honestly, even Jazwares
wasn't crazy this year, becausethat was a mess.
Mattel was still crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Mattel still had.
The Mattel was still crazy.
Mattel still had.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Mattel was still selling everything out.
Yeah, all their hot stuff wasstill going and they still had
security.
They still had get off the wall.
They still had all this stuffthey had.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
They actually had good exclusives though.
I would have been mad.
Yeah, back to the Future.
I think they had Jaws, jaws.
Yeah, the Jurassic Park at theconvention.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Did you have something that fell out in cart?

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
when you tried.
Yeah, it was Mattel.
Both of them actually did.
I was going to get Back to theFuture and the Jurassic Park.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
The Jurassic Park one was pretty cool yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Dinosaur attacking Comic-Con and the dude in the
inflatable t-rex suit.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
that was pretty good, the bag with the comic-con bag
yeah, um, speaking of that legodude, that lego convention
center, that was sweet sweetyeah, oh, so they rebuilt, they
did like a they built theconvention center of the yeah, a
through g man.
They had the street, thestreets and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
And then they built the convention hall on the other
side.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Yeah, it was remarkable, absolutely
remarkable.
Yeah, the Lego convention.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
I saw it on Wednesday night online.
I'm like, oh, we need to walkby the Lego booth.
I finally went over there onFriday.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
You see him walk out there at like 10 30, putting the
lake, closing the street.
That would be funny yeah theyjust have cars going back and
forth and then they put thepeople out and then have people
have little uh lego minifigspointing to the turn.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
You have to turn and then inside the hall they had
the convention center rebuilttoo.
Wow, okay, it was likelego-ception it was, but it was
all.

Speaker 4 (01:29:10):
I'm guessing it was all generic vendors, though it
was just a rep like a actually,except for their booth.
They were exactly, of course,which which also then had a
smaller version of theconvention center and the
convention.
No, it was cool because, um, isthis a convention center for us
?
That would be for a lot of theconvention center and the
convention.
No, it was cool because, um, isthis a convention center for us
?

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
that would be for a lot of the booths.
They actually had kids building, like there was an activity you
could go over and build a boothand they would put it in the
convention center?

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
yeah, and they place it in there stealing, our
stealing, our ideas.
I see how it is yeah, basically, man, that reminds me.
Do you have to reach out tothem or them to you for 27?
How does that work?

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
I got invited to the their oldest graduation party
and I replied and said I don'tknow if I'll be able to make it,
but, uh, 27 right.
And then they didn't respond it.
So I don't know.
I'm just like okay, like if Ido it, if I, if they reach out
to me, cool, I mean I might pingthem and just say, hey, but I

(01:30:07):
mean the last time they didn'treach out to me, until like it
was like December or something,like I didn't hear anything at
all from them until a few monthsbefore.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
Well, I guess here's the question Would you rather do
that, or rather just be a guest?

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Like go enjoy, Do you want to hang out with them or
do you want to hang out with us?

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
I mean again now that I know, like I, I would go into
it with a different mentalitythan I did last time.
So if I did it again, it wouldbe oh, I'm just working, like I
just have to work for thesehours, right, because that was,
that was what I had to do before, instead of how it was like
again it became.
It went from a family to beinga business, right, like, okay,

(01:30:43):
cool, I show up at 10 o'clock,I'll be done at two, cool, all
right.
And now I'm gonna go hang outwith you guys, because I got to
hang out with you guys way moreat this last celebration than I
have ever before.
Like, the only times I ever sawyou guys before is when you'd
walk by the booth and I'd belike hi, you know and maybe here
we brought you stuff here yeah,here's a shibaka pin yeah yeah,
yeah, or, or, or if.
Like we went and got lunch orsomething like that, right, we

(01:31:06):
got to hang out.
So now that I have, now I knowmy brain now knows what to
expect, I wouldn't mind workingagain because the benefits I
felt were great as far as thatgoes right, like getting the
hotel room getting the badge,getting all that stuff, room
getting the badge, getting allthat stuff.
It was way more, it was less,it was more stressful because I

(01:31:28):
didn't know how it was going towork.
But now I know how it's goingto work, I'm not going to be
worried about it, you know.
And again, like if, if I stillget to do the panels and stuff
like that that I want and I haveto work a little bit outside of
that while you guys are doingpin hunting and all of that
stuff that I don't necessarilyhave a big interest in doing,
pin hunting.

(01:31:48):
Who does that?
Sorry, this year's Comic Conjust warned you off of that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
Yeah, it was like pins.
Pins are stupid.
Who does that?

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
I would never not get three cents.

Speaker 4 (01:32:05):
What Spending?
$100 in a vending machine toget blind box pins?
No, I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
That is the only thing that's bad.
Spend $50 to get a pin Again.
It worked out for the most partbecause I think eight of the
seven of the nine that you hadto buy something I was okay with
.
Of the seven of the nine thatyou had to buy something, uh, I
was okay with buying the seven.
It was like okay, I kind ofwant this.
Okay, well, that weird one thatwe played the game.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
I didn't mind that one at all.
That was kind of fun.
Plus we ended up with like somecool junk out of it that one
with the, the matching thethingies they gave you prints.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
So okay, I like that one.
I, oh, I like the, the Toppsone, the.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Topps one.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Those little squishy guys that I don't think I would
have purchased if not for thepin.
I don't mind that.
I have those little squishyguys.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
I'm not mad at anything.
That's kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
The spray was the only one that's like really, but
it worked because Duke neededit for his shirt.
Yeah, for his Portland shirt.
It was like, okay, still hadvalue, didn't smell bad and it
wasn't that expensive.
And it wasn't that expensive.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
And it didn't smell bad.
Yeah, see.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
I mean it was like alright, but when you're trying
to get multiple sets dog, thatperson after the fact, I'm going
to, I'm going to be that personhanging out at the purchase
line.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Oh my God, that was such a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
Yes, it was the people who want this stuff but
don't want the pen.
It's like I'm going to.
I'm going to have about 20, $10bills on me.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
And I'd be like I'll, there you go, I got a coin.
What do you want?
What do you want I got you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
I was like all right, I'm going to be all over that.
I will pay the tax for your.
Basically, I'll cover the taxfor whatever you just bought.
That was a great idea.
I have my traders Fuck it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
I'm like, hey, I got pins, you want to trade a pin?

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
I would like your pin .
There's way more not collectingthem than there are collecting
them.
So they'll be happy for shit,$10, $20.
If they say I'll do it for $20,I'm like dude.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
I'm going to say yes Because you probably just saved
me $30, $50 or something.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
You just saved me $35 minimum.
If it's $50 plus tax, so 55,and you want 20, you save me 35
bucks.
I will do it.
So, once I get my set quoteunquote properly, I will have.
No, I got nothing to do.
What are you going to do?
I'm going to go hang out overhere and try to buy people's
pins until I get like five andI'm going to go to the next
booth and do it.
Keep doing it until it's likewhy not?

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
I will be interested to see, now that we've done both
an international and theUS-based ones, how much of that
carries over.
Hot Toys had a giant fuckingbooth.
Does Hot Toys have a giantfucking booth at 27?
No, no way.
Is there the suit deodorizer?

(01:35:01):
Is that company coming?

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
over.

Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
To me it'll be interesting, now that we've done
an international one and we'veseen those local yeah, the local
ones to japan.
How many of those come to comicor, sorry, come to celebration
over here?
Um?
Or how many of them go sorry,10, or how I'm gonna say 10 how
many of them are working with USbased vendors?

(01:35:26):
To where you go, to their boothand then you see, oh, here's
the suit deodorizer from Japan,right like, but it's just a
glass case in another.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
Yeah, the one that I would not mind Seeing is the one
I think the first one we gotinto where we were in line for
like 2 hours when Duke Wastrying to get over to
Roosevelt's and we saw the panel.
One we got into where we werein line for like two hours when
Duke was trying to get over toRoosevelt's and we saw the panel
because we saw Ryan andDossling the flags, the banners
or whatever we were doing.
Yeah, the flags, the towels,the banners, the sticker sets.

(01:35:57):
I would be okay getting stufffrom them.

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
I actually didn't mind that booth.
The rest of them, like I said,wasn't horrible.
But I think Duke's right.
If those spray people are goingto be there clothing spray
people are going to be there itwould be through a different
vendor.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
They'll be like it's a Dr Squatch booth or something.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Exactly, exactly.
They're carrying that product.
I could see that, but hot toysit'll just depend.
It just worked out that theyhad some good stuff that people
wanted, but they had one of thebiggest booths at celebration if
not the biggest.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was the biggest, not even
close, they had a museum and astore.
Yeah well, it was shitty, itwas both that line there.

Speaker 4 (01:36:42):
We had one line for both because I would have been
cool to do the museum but Iwasn't about to wait in the line
for I mean, it was anadvertised museum, it just they
just had the dolls that theywere selling there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
Yeah, just the stuff they had, yeah uh, I mean, fine,
have a big line, I'll just pullan oldest child and just kind
of jump right in it oldest, notquite 18 right, she totally
cheated, but you know it's fineto cheat in japan yeah, that was
okay, if it means you get a low.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Yeah, she got her low scouts.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
She didn't care that's what matters, um but but
yeah that, yeah, that's a good,that's a good point.
I wonder, like, what thedifferences are going to be,
like how I imagine a lot, Iimagine a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
well, the artists There'll be a ton more artists,
and all those artists.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
Oh God yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
There will be a crap ton more artists, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
But it's also the 50th.
I don't think we can.
It wouldn't be a super faircomparison.
It's going to be the 50thanniversary of Star Wars.
I mean, this shit's going to behuge.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Yeah well, I don't even mean size-wise, I'm on
Duke's track, I think, of thevendors.
I'm curious with the vendors,but overall, oh, it's going to
be ginormous.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Yeah, it almost has to be the vendors, the
autographs, the artist alley,all that shit's going to be
fucking bonkers.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Anybody who's alive that had anything to do with the
original Star Wars.

Speaker 4 (01:38:03):
I imagine they're going to do whatever it takes to
get them all yeah, they'regoing to pay whatever they need
to pay to get them to at leastshow up for a day, at least show
up for opening ceremonies likethat type of thing, I guarantee
you George will be there again,Like you know.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Has to be.

Speaker 4 (01:38:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
George, let's see, assuming everybody's alive, you
got George.
Mark Harrison, anthony Daniels,billy D.
Billy will be there, althoughhe wasn't in the original.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
It's going to celebrate 50 years of Star Wars,
though it's not just going tobe a new hope You're not going
to celebrate a new hope.

Speaker 4 (01:38:41):
I think they'll focus on a new hope there will be but
it's going to be a celebrationof Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
I think they'll focus on A New Hope there will be,
but it's going to be acelebration of Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
I think, yeah, I could see them doing everything.
Animation like you goteverybody there.
Voice actors from Clone WarsRebels Resistance just all of it
If they get Frank.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
Oz there, I'm going to his panel.

Speaker 4 (01:39:04):
Wouldn't surprise me.
I mean, yeah, and all the ILMguys, I bet they to his panel
Wouldn't surprise me.
I mean, yeah, and all the ILMguys, I bet they'll pay for all.
I mean I guarantee you BenBurtt and all of them will be
there, Lauren Peterson, allthose guys as well, and they'll
all be official, not just comingto the event, Because I think
there's actually a lot more guyswho are kind of maybe not as
well known visually that come toa celebration and these

(01:39:28):
celebrations even comic-con,because you know they love
whatever.
You know.
It's one of those things it'slike when you walk by something
and you hear two people talkingabout something maybe you did,
talking about how awesome it is,but they don't know it was you,
yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sure that that's that theydon't know.
Is you?
Yeah, I'm sure that that's afucking kick, right, so but yeah

(01:39:52):
, I can see it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
Yeah, it's going to be a good one.
It's going to be a good one.
I mean, tickets will go on salein about a year and then
hopefully, like the rest.
You know, you get one person in, they can get several, so that
way, only two of us will need toget through the line, maybe
Because I think only I gotthrough last time for Japan and
was able to get everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
I got in for a couple of Duke Saturdays, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
Yeah, I mean for the four days.
Yeah, yeah, that's right, I gotthe four.
We had the single day badgeswhich we're still waiting to
hear back from on that purchase.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
Yeah, it's weird, we haven't heard nothing.
Nothing, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Completely quiet, absolute crickets, but also
following up with them.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
I don't even know who to reach out to Read.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
Yeah, if I don't hear from them by my birthday, I'll
reach out to read and.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
If I don't hear from them by my birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
I'll reach out to Reed and just see what they say
yeah, just say hey, we don'tplan on this until December.

Speaker 4 (01:40:50):
Okay, fine, at least I got something, which again
would be weird, because I thinkthe badges are usually pretty.
They never take, yeah, theyshould be shipping about now,
yeah, long enough for them towrap everything up and get back
and then unbox the stuff thatthey have and assemble the bad
shit.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
They've already on their website, they've already
moved off of Japan.
So at that point it's like,okay, no reason not to.
We're watching the Facebookthread as well, and nobody's got
theirs as well, so it's notjust us.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
man, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
We should go to bed yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:41:28):
Yeah, it's been a long weekend, so yep.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
I'm gonna finish this .
I'm gonna finish this episodeof Star Trek.
I'm what?
Do I go?
I'm looking over now like I gotabout 18 minutes, nah.
Nah, I just started it beforebecause it was right before the
right before, so I still got 32minutes.
But it'll give me a chance tolike, uh, I don't know, get a
dessert.
I want something sweet.
There you go, one of my flight,one of my favorite japanese

(01:41:52):
kick-ass there you go all right,gents, good week good to get
back in the saddle though.
Hell yeah, we had a couple weekthis week.

Speaker 4 (01:42:03):
Good to get back on the saddle, though.
Hell yes, we had a couple weekbreak.
We had an AI.
Did we do an AI two weeks ago?

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
No, we did not, it was just me and Lou.
Oh, yeah, yeah, and then weskipped last week, so there was
only one missed episode.
Yeah, not too bad.

Speaker 4 (01:42:18):
Still on it.
I meant to listen to that tosee what you guys talked about,
but I did not remember.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
That was a long time ago.
It wasn't for real.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
We talked about.
We talked about Superman,without spoiling.
Yeah, so basically we're justgoing to listen to your guys's
podcast from two weeks ago afterwe wrap this up.

Speaker 4 (01:42:34):
Yeah, pretty much so you guys get reminded of what
you guys talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
Makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:42:38):
Other than that, have a good week boys.
Yeah, have a good week boys.
Thanks for listening guys, allthe losers Appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
Welcome back everybody, bye, and we're out.
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