Holiday Hijinks, Superhero Surprises, and Festive Football Fun

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Wait, did Kwanzaa start today?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, Boxing day 26, Canada.
I don't know what happened toCanada Dang.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Monica and Kwanzaa are the same day.
At least they let the whiteman's holiday go first.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Monica's not just one day dummy.
It starts, though it startsthough.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
When does it start?
Actually, the evening of the25th, but the first full day is
the 26th 26,.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, Boxing Day.
If you're a Brit, Hi Brit fans.
Or Canadian, oh, they haveBoxing Day in Canada.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I thought that's where they celebrated it.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh, I thought it was England.
Hey, no way you hoser.
What's that all about?
I way you hoser?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
What's that all about ?
I want to go get some poutinebuddy.
Oh man, oh wait.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
That's not what you meant.
Super excited that neitherholiday falls on a Sunday, so
we'll be able to get in bothpodcasts with no trouble.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
But man, I don't know about y'all, but everybody got
tomorrow off almost.
Let me take it back.
Let me count Half the people inmy office are off tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I know you can't blame them.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
We already have Tuesday, Wednesday off, so
that'd be kind of stupid.
Go out of town or something.
If you're going out of town,you're definitely taking Monday
off.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
If I ever become president, I am definitely
moving Christmasmas to like thelast friday of the of december.
Like, sir, you can't justchange jesus birthday?
Yes, you can, because it's nothis fucking birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Like you don't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
You don't know that, we don't, none of us know that
where's my doctor who fans likeour presidential day like yeah,
well, that just combines twobirthdays well, don't you
remember back when we were kids,we would get washington's
birthday and lincoln's birthdayoff, and then they're just like
nah, let's just do one day, no.
And that like fourth of july,fuck that we're renaming it to

(01:59):
independence day and it's thefirst friday of july, Like
Halloween last Friday in October, Like you know, none of these
there's none that are likehard-coded to like they have to
be on this specific day, right.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Hey maybe sometime Jesus' birthday does.
Come on now, slash my mom'sbirthday.
Come on y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
I love it.
Then your mom wouldn't have toshare a birthday with Jesus
anymore, because we would haveJesus' birthday observed.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Jesus wouldn't have to share a birthday with my mom.
You mean?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
There you go exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
We could have two separate ones.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Wait, is your mom older than Jesus?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
No with my mom's attitude, though Jesus don't
want to mess with her.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Jesus will be the first one to sign yes, Christmas
observed.
Thank you, President.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Duke, I will now appoint you to the Supreme Court
.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
So how long have you had that Raiders Christmas hat,
jack, is that a today thing?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
The wife had one.
Oh, okay, at least the lastcouple years, but then I got
this one when I was doingshopping on Friday.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Did you buy that shirt that you sent earlier?
No, no, sir.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
It was probably sleeping Probably.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
You know, it wasn't until I saw your post on
Instagram because I think it waslike I wasn't paying super
close attention that I saw youpost something on Instagram and
I was like I get it.
Now that's some Disney shitright there.
That's some like, some like.
Hey guys, it's all one universe.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Now speaking of disney kinda, because only
because I saw this like 10-15minutes ago I was finishing my
laundry mufasa didn't do as wellas they thought it was going to
, but sonic actually kind ofblew it out of the water.
Most people expected mufasa todo well internationally and
sonic to do well domestically,and that's kind of how it's
played, I mean if.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I had the choice.
I'd go see Sonic first.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I'm saying I'm okay watching both, but I'm in no
hurry to watch Mufasa.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, I'll see both my boy Lin-Manuel did the songs
for it, but it also has Beyoncein it, so we know a party like a
diddy party.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Let's see what else.
I think I'm going to seesomething, michael.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Chase said last night on Saturday Night Live that he
knows that Jay-Z and Beyonce areclear because he was at all
those parties with Diddy and henever once saw Jay-Z or Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, there you have it.
Now you know everything is good.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Damn, although I am.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
You guys do it Tuesday.
There's like no discount onTuesday, christmas Eve for
Cinemark I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
That's not surprising there hasn't been one for a
couple weeks in my neck of thewoods.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Oh, they stopped doing $5 movies at the end of
the year.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Well, because now people are taking time off all
that kind of stuff.
That was my assumption.
We were going to go seeGladiator 2 a couple weeks ago
and it was like wait, where'sthe value?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Where's?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
the value ticket.
There was no value ticket.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I was doing that earlier to watch, because we're
going to go watch that Bob Dylanmovie on Tuesday.
I was like where the hell isthe discount.
I have four credits left, sonot a big deal.
I'll use a couple of them forthis, but I was like where the
hell is my discount.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Still got to get your nine movies in right.
Did you get them in?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I'm down to two left, so it'll be one left after
Tuesday Nice nice, so yeah, I'vegot ten days to watch a movie.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
The big one had her birthday observed on Friday.
They went and saw Wicked again.
I only have two tickets.
I already bought tickets forSonic for Friday.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Do they have a family pass for that?
That seems kind of silly.
That one person I don't know.
I guess You've got to have fourdifferent for all four of y'all
.
Yeah, or can I pay better?

Speaker 1 (05:46):
right.
Do you want to be on my on mycinemark platinum blue?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
no, I have mine, it's just.
I'm just thinking about you,I'm thinking about your
situation, because you only getone of one of those tickets,
although I guess the additionaltickets you buy are the same
price exactly yeah, so it kindof discounts on the, the
concessions and stuff.
Yeah, I mean I guess you canalways have everybody put the
app on their phones, so ifthey're not, well, that's what

(06:11):
they did because I didn't go tosee Wicked the second time.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Okay, okay, there you go.
Yeah, so it was my wife oldestand her two BFFs.
Okay, cool.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Was.
That was that wife's first timewatching it Was that wife's
first time watching it?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
No, she's been wanting to see it a second time
since she saw it the first time.
What?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
were y'all talking about going to see it the first
time?

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Huh, we talked about it on the pod.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
So, was it because?

Speaker 3 (06:30):
it was just all girls .
Is that why you didn't go, Jack?

Speaker 1 (06:34):
No, somebody had to watch the little one when the
big one has her friends over thelittle one's like oh, pay
attention to me, you're myfriends now.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
So between you perving out on all of them and
her being like pay attention tome, you guys are usually the
ones sent home Jack.
Go to the other end of thehouse.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Don't you have a casita to hang out in?
Why?
Do you?

Speaker 3 (06:58):
have a telescope in your casita, Jack.
It's not even facing the sky.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's not the moons.
I'm looking for Shit.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
The next five to seven years is going to be funny
about making Jack a pervert tohis kids and friends.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I mean nah just to the next three to four years,
because they'll be legal after.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, they did all just turn four, yeah, so they
don't have to worry.
Is true, they did all just turn40.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, so they don't have to worry about it.
Christmas.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Too late.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Christmas, christmas 28, y'all Christmas 28.
That's where it's at.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Loses all of its allure after 18.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah.
Then it's like oh, they'reillegal.
Next set of jokes Moving onRight it's like oh they're
illegal.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Next set of jokes Moving on Right Call me Leonardo
.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
DiCaprio yeah, you can mess around with them for
seven more years after that.
That's it.
That's all you get 25.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I actually haven't seen Wicked Joke 25.
Oh man, you're missing out.
It's really good.
I just haven't had the time,like I've just been like what
tuesday, yeah, yeah, between thetime, like it's like for me,

(08:12):
I'm like I'm at a point whereI'm like why it's gonna be out
on digital before you know it.
Like I'm not gonna, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Like why go spend 15 when I can download it and you
know in a month.
But down, download it for like,like in no, he's downloading it
like this right, right, exactlyOut in the open seas.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
You're out in the open seas, okay, yep,
international waters.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
my friend, I hear that I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
If I had the skills I'd do it too.
But you know what?
I take that back.
I would do it for some of them,some of them.
I'm okay giving you my dollar.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, and again, I you know I pay for YouTube TV.
Like it's not like I'm sittinghere just on the open seas for
everything and I go see a fairamount of movies every year.
It's not like I'm not going tothe movies.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Oh yeah, you do Like you're for a while there.
You're going like every TuesdayI've done every other Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Well, and once the statewide Tuesday kicks back in,
I'll probably we're going to gosee the Bob Dylan movie, so
I'll be interested to see whatyou think of it, lou.
I mean the trailers, all makeit look really good.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Oompa Loompas, maybe a sandworm this guy.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
It took me a second to realize it was him actually
starring in this movie it kindof looks like him, but then they
put up the name.
I was like, oh okay, it is him.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I mean it's 100% Oscar beat.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Oh yeah, of course it is Just like that September 5th
one or whatever it's called,because they released that in a
few theaters, just to get it outthere before the national
release, they had the releasebefore the deadline so it can be
nominated.
Just so you know, I'm watchingit Tuesday.
I don't know if I'm going towatch it a second time, so

(09:48):
you're going to get the criticalversion first.
Oh, hell, yeah, I'm moreinterested in the soundtrack
than I am the movie so far,because the movie obviously
gives away a lot, but not enoughthat I care about.
Yet you think it gives away alot.
You think that I care about,yet you think it gives away a
lot.
You think really you can justwatch that trailer and okay,

(10:09):
okay, you say okay, you see, youcan see all they give away too
much.
I'm throwing my five down onbrainiac, so just saying put
down on reading our nasa andphillian.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I'm like bruh, is this uncle fester?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
dude guy gardner astern.
His haircut in the comics isgarbage.
It is.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
So, it looks all right.
I guess it's comic accurate.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah right, it's so bad.
It's so bad.
I'm all like Mark Davis, theowner of the Raiders is in this
movie.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
How did he get into the DCU?
What's going?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
on here how the hell that happened.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
He was a hair consultant for you're right.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
It's like hey, okay, guys, what do they call?
It's not casting, so it's, Idon't know, art, art department,
whatever.
It's like this guy.
Here's a picture of mark davishair and makeup we need him to
look like this, do this guy yeahwell, there's so many, there's
so many.
I didn't realize there's gonnabe so many in this between
between super, between supermanand crypto and green lantern and

(11:10):
hot girl and mr terrific, right, okay ultra man, obviously, lex
, and, like I said, I'm guessingbrainiac, oh for sure that that
kaiju, whatever hell that thingis, I'm, I'm, I'm curious, I
mean it looks, it looks good.
I'm not gonna lie.

(11:30):
I mean I'm, I'm definitely wason board with henry cavill
superman.
I didn't mind the man of steel,um, I would have been fine with
him to continue.
I would have preferred him toget a sequel of some kind, but
that would never happen.
He did.
He got superman versus supermanno, he Superman.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Batman versus Superman no, he did not.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
That is not a him sequel.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, he did not get that that goes into the same
vault as Rise of Skywalker.
We just we never talk about itagain, Martha.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
But it was okay.
It was okay.
I mean, it looks good.
I'm like okay, it was a good.
It was an actual two-minuteteaser, which is usually like 30
, 45 seconds.
No, this was a proper with onlyone line of dialogue.
I wonder how many people aregoing to freak out over the

(12:14):
Superdog.
None better it was adorable, Iknow, and he's been around until
they phased him out in the 80s.
He was around for a while.
I was just wondering how manypeople are like wait, what is
this crap?
And they're not going know sosoon.
They will.
The fans know.
So that's all crypto around andfind out.
Oh snap, this guy.
That was actually pretty good,I like that one.

(12:34):
But yeah, the soundtrackplaying that guitar and, uh,
dropping a key oh holy crap thatthat sounded so good.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, I had my closed captioning on when I was
watching, when I started it up,and all of a sudden it was like
John Williams score and I waslike what?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I was like okay.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
James.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Gunn does very good in the soundtrack department,
for real.
He always does GuardiansSuicide Squad, and even I told
you guys I started watchingcreature commandos, oh yeah,
which has actually been veryentertaining, and he has some
bangers on that show too like.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I would imagine so, because it's part, it's, it's,
it's canon for the universe he'screating yeah and they even
have what some of the actorsvoices are going to act their
roles in live actions.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Well, that's all right, cool, that was part of
the edict that they had passeddown was that once they hire an
actor to play a role, that role,regardless of medium, will be
the same actor as it should beyeah, that's one of their.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I think that's that's one of their goals.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
So if they're in a video game, it'll be that guy.
If it's a tv movie or a comicbook series and done like
anywhere that that voice isgoing to be required, that's
going to be the same you knowwhat and the actors probably
don't mind either it's paychecks.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
So yeah, it works for them.
Just don't ai me.
I'm, yeah, I'm solid.
I mean, like I said, let's go.
I can't remember who's next.
And yeah, I forgot Supergirl'sin this movie too.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
But I mean, but Gunn's also proven that he can
take a large cast of characters.
Because usually I'd be nervous,like if this was the first
movie and they're introducing somany characters if it wasn't
like James Gunn, who has proventhat he can take a large cast of
characters and make it work Inmultiple you know, suicide squad
guardians yeah, guardiansmultiple times, with multiple

(14:33):
configurations of guardians even, you know, and with convincing
bad guys, right, like so.
I normally a trailer like thatwhere I feel like it would be
maybe overloaded withintroducing too many characters.
I have faith that he'll do themjustice.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
He's in a league of his own.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, there's no crying in superhero movies.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
So yeah, so it looks good.
What do we want to talk abouttonight, guys?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I want to talk about how Jack got his ass handed to
him in fantasy football today.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Holy shit, he was projected to win.
Now it was supposed to be aclose.
I was supposed to be like 51 49, it was 51, 49.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, it was crazy percentage.
He was supposed to win barelyand then I know she made some
changes and it dropped to 50, 50and damn, I think you lost by
60.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Jalen got a concussion.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Oh, even then you lost by 60, dog Mm-hmm, 60.
Yeah, at one point I wasprojected to lose by 30.
To your misses, I ended upcoming back winning by 10.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
That was unheard of that was crazy too.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, even Duke won his match in the consolation
bracket, I think.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Once I wasn't going to win any money, I just stopped
paying attention.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
You were never going to win any money.
There was no money in thisleague.
Okay, so I stopped payingattention.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
16 weeks ago, week one shit.
The one league that I didactually make it to the playoffs
.
I was in fourth.
For some reason, the way it wasset up, and I don't know if
this was just the way it workedor how ESPN does it, but they
actually do a over two weeks.
They consolidate the scores, sothe top four teams make it.

(16:19):
But then it's last week andthis week's scores combined and
I was looking at the scores andso I was facing the second place
team because I was in fourthand I lost to her 37 to 300.
Over the course of the two weeks.
The first and fourth place teamwere playing each other and
they won the number guy in firstplace, 24 to 171.

(16:43):
Like the two of us had weplayed anybody else in the
league.
I don't mean, stop the shit outof them.
Yeah, oh, my god, of course.
Of course I run into thefucking buzzsaw, the one person
in the entire league that canbeat me, and I'm of course I
have to play her right that wassemi, was semifinals then yeah

(17:06):
so you've got a third-placematch next week.
Yeah, I'll be playing thirdplace.
How's your?
It's next week and the weekafter, so 16 and 17.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
No 17 and 18.
17 and 18.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
How's that league with the Shield script going?
You still doing good in thatone, no.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
I have a couple off weeks.
Uh, I am currently in 11th outof 48.
Wah, wah, yup, so that's stillnot bad Top.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, I mean I'm getting like I'm, I'm.
No, it is not.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
I'm getting like where am I at?
Let's am I at?
Let's see?
I am, uh, 122 and 103.
So I'm still positive.
Like had I been doing this formoney, I would be plus money at
this point.
Um, but the guy that's numberone is 132 and 93.
So I he would have to really doshit over the next couple weeks
and I'd have to really beimpeccable in my picks to to

(18:01):
overcome them.
There's like a 10-gamedifference.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
This is with the spread.
Yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
And I didn't even realize that halfway through the
season, like I was just picking, and then all of a sudden I was
like I looked at it and I waslike wait, I should have won
that game.
And I was like no, To be honestwith you.
I think that was my downfall.
If I would have never known itwas against the spread, I'd
still be doing good, but now I'mtaking that into account when

(18:27):
I'm making my picks.
So it's like I should have justbeen playing Moneyline the
whole time and not payingattention.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
You got a guy from Vegas sitting there on the
screen with you.
You can reach out for somepick-em help.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
You know Jackson Hustler, when it comes to the
football betting, come on, whatdo you hear?
What do you hear Exactly, man,I think, of my five leagues.
I made the semis in all five,congratulations.
I think I won one in our league, actually Lost two for certain,

(19:03):
and I'm still alive in theother two.
Now the other two, one of them.
Pretty much it's a long shotbut the but the highest pain
when I'm in the 200, 200 dollarsa person league.
I need three and a half pointsbetween josh jacobs and kendra
miller.
His team's already done and I'mdown by three and a half, so I

(19:23):
like my chances to make thefinals in that one.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
And is it a winner-take-all?

Speaker 2 (19:27):
No, it's like first place is $1,200, and I think
second place is $800 orsomething like that, and then
whatever the rest of it is, sodo, alright, I mean, hell,
that'll help pay for some of myshit to Japan, I mean like.
I mean, like I said, as long asI can get those four points,
then I'm guaranteed, obviously,at least second place.

(19:47):
Not bad for my first time.
This is the one Bill had mejump in.
They were short a person, so Iwas like, yeah, I'll do it.
So now here I am, a few pointsaway from the finals, so that's
kind of cool.
The other one I got it handedto me In Bill's league.
He beat me in the semis like by50 or something like that, and

(20:08):
then, and then in a differentleague, I lost by 30.
Well, some some Boulder league,some of my magic friends, I
lost by 30 and one and 20 andthe other or or probably we'll
lose by 20.
I still have a chance, but Iwould need like like green base
defense to go off.
Like green base defense to gooff like shut out four turnovers
, two touchdowns something likethat Negative for arts on every

(20:28):
play bro, it would have to go.
That's why I'm all like that wasprobably a loss, but I still
have a chance in the one thatthe obviously the one that I'd
want to win, the one that's thehighest payout.
So oh yeah, and then even thenI still have, I then I still
have a chance for third placenext week.
I'm still in it to try tosalvage some bucks for this year
, so not too bad.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
But you know what that means the football's almost
over.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
It's always the saddest moment Super Bowl's over
and it's like man, now I've gotto wait for the draft.
That reminds me, didn't theRaiders win today?

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Ugh, look at that.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Door is going to the giants right and then they'll
trade him to the raiders anywaysyou know, if he, if he wanted
to go, if he wanted to go to theraiders and he's going to pull
an eli manning um 2004, chargers, giants, bullshit the giants,
because there's there's decentenough's decent enough.

(21:24):
Pick two quarterbacks there.
The Giants could get some shitfrom the Raiders for this,
obviously you switch picks andthen you get something else out
of it.
It's like, hmm, okay, we'll takeMax Crosby and your pick switch
, that's no problem.
Max Crosby over and be a GiantJack would like that.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I don't know.
He's broken now.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Now that means he's going to come back healthier,
stronger.
$6 million man, you're going toget that surgery.
Come back a robot.
We're going to be great.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Get some Simstels in him, bionic.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Max.
But yeah, I can't imagineGiants winning another game.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
No, I was looking at their schedule.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
I'm like, no, they're done.
Yeah, they're done for so?
Raiders I was like I mean, theywere behind the Giants anyway,
even though they both have thesame record.
So, yeah, number one pick isprobably going to Giants.
You are on the clock.
Raiders, looks like you mightbe number two.
There's so many teams withthree wins Shit Right, I don't
see us winning anymore either,so I don't know.
Let's see.

(22:22):
You got the Chargers the lastgame and the Saints next week.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah, and then Chargers.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Oh, you might beat the Saints.
Saints got a backup quarterback, remember.
Unless Carr comes back nextweek.
If Carr comes back next week,then yeah, I expect y'all to
lose that one, but if Carr's out, spencer Rattler, I can't
imagine him.
I mean, that's probably partlywhy I picked up Kendrick Miller,
because I figured, with Kamaraout with his groin injury,
they're going to want to run theball, hand it off to somebody,
and that left Miller.
We'll see, I know my luck.

(22:48):
I'll get that fucking.
I know I'm Aitken to help out,though Wait, wasn't he a Raider
too?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yep Sure was.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Raiders are going to help me out.
I still haven't seen SkeletonCrew second go around, so it's
still not good Still hating, soit's still not good.
You know what, though?
I did think about it.
I didn't watch the episodeepisode, but I thought about the
episode the last couple days,probably since Friday, thursday,
whatever and it was likeAlright, it's fine, but I'm just

(23:29):
bored with it, is all.
I like that there's a story.
It's just that it's just slowgetting there.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
It's just not speaking to you, Not at all.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
It's just like okay Because I'm getting.
It's just not speaking to you,not at all.
It's just like okay, becauseI'm super curious about what the
hell is happening.
But getting there, it's likeokay, this happened, this
happened.
None of that was relevant untilyou take five minutes of the
show was all that was relevantfor me.
Now, if everybody else, it waslike this is cool, these kids
are doing this, and neil is that, and, and you know, du's boo, I

(23:57):
mean, with the nice hair, it'sso good, it's just so.
Not for me, because it's slow.
Is there a way to speed up thepace of what's happening?
And I don't know that there is.
That's the problem.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
I don't know that they can do it.
You click on the little gearand you change the speed from 1
to 1.25, and then it goes muchfaster.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Man well can you do that on Disney Plus.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I don't know if you can do it on Disney Plus.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
When I'm on the Xbox, I was like yeah, if I'm on the
Xbox, I love doing that onpodcasts.
Don't get me wrong.
I put that on 1.5.
I mean, it's like I'm listeningto my mom talk, so it's fine.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
I just put it on 1.5.
We're good to go.
Yeah, if I see a video, it'sgoing to be like 45 minutes.
I'm like 1.25, depending on howmuch interaction or how much
conversation is happening it wasjust somebody giving narration
I'll be like 1.5.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, when I listen to the Bronco hate radio, I put
it on 1.5 A lot of times, thoughthat's because, oh my god,
those dudes on radio speak soslowly.
I guess they're trying to fillin space and time, and I get it.
But I'm just like when I put iton 1-5, it sounds like normal
speed because they're so slowand with the Broncos losing on
Thursday, I was able to listen,so that was great.

(25:10):
As soon as that game was over,I went right to the post game.
I'm like, oh, I can finallylisten again.
And then we got cincinnati.
Uh, next week.
I was like, please, cincinnati,whoop that ass.
So I want to listen to the postgame again on saturday, man.
But yeah, so again, I'm reallynot.
It's not that I'm hating theshow, it's just, it's just too

(25:32):
slow for me.
It's like, okay, we got this,we got this, we got this.
I was at no time in thisepisode was I concerned about
any kind of battle, because like, like you said, they're not
going to kill kids, they that'slike a simpsons thing and it's
like all right, cool.
So when do we get to the partwhere they go to the spire or
wherever the hell they weregoing to that.
What do they call it?
A fallen the, the, the library,whatever they call it Security

(25:56):
tower.
It's a security tower.
It's like okay, we know they'regoing to get there.
Can we get to the part wherethey?
So I'm just sitting therewatching this play out, waiting
for them to get to the partwhere they get to make it over
there.
It's like, okay, they made itover there Again.
No consequences.
I wasn't expecting it.
It was like, man, they shouldhave had a fifth kid killed, one
off early on.

(26:16):
That way we knew somethingcould happen, but now we know
nothing can happen to them.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Nothing was ever going to happen to them.
I don't understand why youdon't get that.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I don't understand why, though, okay, okay, if
nothing's ever going to happento them, why put them in any
kind of scenario that'squote-unquote dangerous?
Why, If nothing can, happen.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Have you ever watched a movie ever?

Speaker 2 (26:37):
No.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Obviously.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
I don't like to watch movies.
That's not my thing.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Obviously you go watch Spider-Man, you think
something's going to happen tohim.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yes, and something did?
He got his ass beat.
You watch a couple ofSpider-Mans.
He got beat down.
All this shit happened.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
But does he not come back and win?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
That's fine, I'm okay with that.
That something happened, to thekids at least no.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
They're not home.
They're not home.
They were kidnapped by thesepeople who were going to keep
them if John didn't trade themfor the fucking EOPs.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
At any point did you think that was going to actually
happen?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
At any point?
Did you think Spider-Man wasnot going to come back and beat
Venom at the end of the movie?
That's not the same thing.
How is it not the same?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
That's not the same.
We're talking about stuff thathappened to them.
Spider-man got beat down.
Did these kids get beat down?
If you want to do a comparison,let's line it up.
Did the kids get beat down?
No?

Speaker 1 (27:33):
all right, then it's not the same thing.
They are kidnapped, there issomething happening to them
spider-man got kidnapped byvenom, I suppose I'm not
defending the acolyte here, butI will say that the acolyte wait
, wait, wait.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Hang on, hear me out.
The acolyte had no problemending people to create
consequences that's a good point.
They introduced, theyintroduced three hole punch girl
.
They introduced uh consequences.
That's a good point.
They introduced Three HolePunch Girl.
They introduced what was theother guy?
The guy with the steam?
Cleaner.

(28:06):
The guy with the steam cleaner,jord he got his head stabbed
Jord.
Jord yeah so they introducedJord, they introduced characters
that you're like like he seemscool, she seems cool, and then
nope, done Bye.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
So they're at least, and she was a teenager, she was
a kid Right.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
So at least there were consequences.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
We don't know how old she was, allegedly.
We don't know how old she is.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Like they can kill grogu.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
That man's 50, yeah, but bro grogu's 50s, oh yeah,
he's like 55 so my point is thatthe difference was at least
acolyte, set the stage thatanybody could be sacrificed
right like characters that theyintroduced and gave a small
backstory to.
But this show there's no.
All of them work, but there'sno concern that anything's going
to happen to the kids outsideof it's because it's that kind

(29:00):
of show, though.
Right, you're watching a showwhere the all I'm doing all I'm
doing is just all I'm doing issaying that star wars kid does
have the ability to createconsequences and to set up
stakes for main characters inthe show they're just choose not
to and so far as far as themgoing, they've been able to get
out of everything very easily.

(29:22):
And I think that's Lou's pointis there hasn't been anything.
That's a challenge that theepisode ends and you think, shit
, how are they going to get outof this?

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, not one.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
There's no even them being with the tribe.
Like you knew, at the end ofthe episode and if it wasn't at
the end of that episode, the endof the next episode, they
weren't going to be with thetribe anymore.
Like, so, there was noconsequences from what they are
doing, right like?

Speaker 2 (29:46):
I would have preferred a cliffhanger where
they're like, oh shit, what'sgoing to happen to them?
We didn't get that you hear.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
You hear that.
You hear like the drum beats orsomething like that, and then
the smoke.
And then the smoke starts tocome away.
Maybe you even see jude lawcome through the smoke, but he
has like a pike in his hand orsomething and you think, oh shit
, like is he turned against himor what?
yeah, like what did he get abetter offer from the other side
that now you know?

(30:13):
Like, because what does he haveto gain from them?
Because they don't know whereAdatn is.
Obviously he's getting moreinformation from the droid than
he is from the kids.
So to me, the bigger like youwere saying, lou, the buildup
having the cliffhanger of whichside?
Like we, because we're stillnot clear on what side he's on
right.
Like I mean he's on his ownside, obviously.

(30:35):
But the fact that he came andwas like, oh, I saved the kids,
now you know, but there was nobuild-up to that Like what made
him go?
Oh, I'm going to help the kidsBecause the kids.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
What's the point of the show?
No, no, no.
Are we not worried about themever getting back to Ad Adden?
Or do we know they're going toget back?

Speaker 3 (31:02):
We, well, we know they're gonna, yeah, we know
they're gonna.
Don't white make the show.
No, no, no.
But my, my point is that thestructure could have at least
given you some anticipation.
Right, there was no and there'sno.
But every episode that's endedso far has ended with a bow.
Right that they're like oh,okay, like, everything's fine.
Even you could even said okay,jude Law did his thing, brought
the EOPs, they're in the tower.
The droid Smee goes crazy andbuilds up Cut to black.

(31:23):
Well, shit, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
That would have been a better ending, right?

Speaker 3 (31:27):
So to me it's like that's.
I think the problem and I thinkthat was also the problem with
one of the problems with Acolytewas that there were never any.
There was never any cliffhangerat the end of the episode that
made you go, ooh, I'm excited tosee what happens next, right,
because at this point we'rewalking, we're going back to the
ship, to get out back on theship and we don't know, I guess

(31:50):
me.
Now we're going to interrogateme again Like what, where else
are we going with the score?
You know what I'm saying Becausehe knows where Atten is, but my
point is that now, okay, so nowthey had to turn the droid off
because the droid went psycho,cool, okay.
So then they end the episodewith Neil, with Neil passing out

(32:12):
because he did a heroic thing.
That's cool, but like there,there's nothing.
I'm not anticipating anythingfor next week.
There was no setup for what thenext step is going to be.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (32:24):
yeah, it's like it'll be the next thing.
Whatever the thing is, they'llbe fine and it's like another
step closer to them getting backhome.
Like I don't even care aboutthem getting back home.
I care about why that planet ishidden.
That's what I care about.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
And so far that's been kind of a very minor part
of the story.
And so I think you know, if youwant to bring Lou and me into
the fold and not make Lou watchthe episode twice a week
actually maybe that's Disney'spoint, because now they're

(33:00):
getting two views out of you,lou, for real.
But but the point is that Ithink it could be structured
better to build.
You know, if you want to dogoonies, you want to do you know
, old spielberg movies.
There was that anticipation.
There's et getting taken out ofthe tube and touching hands
with elliot, you know, with bothof them being, you know, on
stretchers, being stretcheredout to go get, you know,

(33:21):
analyzed and dissected by nasa,right like there's stuff that
happens throughout.
There's there's them riding thebikes down, getting away from
all the bad guys and what'sgoing to happen when they get to
this big roadblock at the end,right like you know.
So there's like there's,there's, there's cliffhangers,
and then there's resolutions,and we're not really getting

(33:41):
that with this series.
It's like we're gettingcliffhangers, many cliffhangers,
but they're resolving themimmediately and we're moving
right on to the next thing.
There's no, there's noanticipation, at least from my
perspective of what's going tohappen next week and I don don't
give a crap.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I feel like these kids Well, and, like I said, I
want to know the story, I wantto know, want to know why the
planet was hidden.
Obviously they're going to makeit back home and if they don't
make it back home, it'll bebecause it's set up in some
future Disney movie that they'llfigure out in Mandalorian and
Grogu or some crap like that.
It that way.
But.
But it's like, okay, don't careabout the kids, I care, but,

(34:16):
like I said, the reason why thethird episode was good, because
they were talking about their ohwait, there's more hidden
planets and all this stuff.
Okay, that now you've got myattention.
What's going on with that?
That?
What's, what's that story?

Speaker 3 (34:29):
but these kids themselves like, okay, yeah but
I just provided two points, tome at least while I was watching
the episode that if you wouldhave cut to a black screen, I
would have been anticipating thenext episode.
I'm like, okay, well, what'sgoing to happen?
What magic thing is going tohappen when the episode opens to
allow the story to continue?
Because you've reached a pointat the end of this episode that,

(34:51):
okay, well, what's next?
Right, because there's nothing.
But I'm not anticipating it.
I'm just like, okay, you've,you've come, you've completed
all the threads that we've youknow, the, the warring factions,
the droid, the building likeyou've resolved all of those
threads already.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
It's like there's nothing for me to anticipate
happening next week and to methat so they've also said this
is more aimed at kids, right,because great protagonist, sure
kid shows have cliffhangers, ordoes everything in pretty bow
move on to the next episode,don't?

Speaker 3 (35:26):
watch.
I think you can.
I think you can do both, Ithink you can do.
And again you say, okay, I'mgoing to pitch it to kids, cool.
But to me we've seen I thinkthat between the three of us
we've seen enough TV shows,cartoons, tv shows, movies, all
of that kind of stuff in ourlifetime to know that you can
structure it to make itappealing to both adults and

(35:47):
kids.
And so if you say you want thisto just be a young Jedi
adventures cool, that's great.
Then I can put my head, my head, into that head space.
But if you're including JudeLaw and you're promoting it as
like a general Star Wars series,that's great, then I can put my
head into that headspace.
But if you're including Jude Lawand you're promoting it as like
a general Star Wars series,right, this is their series
right now.
So to me it's like it should bebeing made.

(36:08):
There should be elements foreverybody, right, it's the
watching the Simpsons episodewhen you're eight years old
versus when you're 28 years old,right, when you're watching it
and when you were eight yearsold versus when you're 28 years
old, right, when you're watchingit and when you were eight
years old, there were thingsthat you got out of it that you
would never understand until youwere 28, and then vice versa,
and so that's why this show likethe Simpsons can be so
successful.

(36:28):
Is that there's layers thatappeal both to kids and adults,
right, I'm using just that as anexample, but this one, they
don't seem seem to be.
There doesn't really seem to bea balance between the two, and
I think, for it being somethingthat you want to bring people
back on board with you, you kindof have to do that look star

(36:48):
wars.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Theory enjoys it, so we're gonna deal with it.
It must be good star wars iftheory agrees with.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Or he has a mentality of a child.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah, there you go.
There you go.
One of the two.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
I hit one too many times in the head and now I
guess, if they're Like I keptsaying I am curious about stuff,
if that was their point, oh, wewant intrigue, we want you to
be curious.
Okay, they've done their job inthat part.
But a lot of the times, likeI'm sitting there playing games
on my phone while the episode'sgoing, waiting to get to the
part that's relevant and let mesee, let me change that Waiting

(37:26):
to get to the part that'srelevant to me and that is the
story of the hidden planet.
At this point, so I'm sittingthere, I'm playing, I'm playing
and they start talking aboutsomething with their plan and
I'm like, let me pause realquick and look up.
Okay, we've moved past that nowand back to my game.
It's like the rest of it islike I don't give a shit at all.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
It's a journey, Lou, not a destination.
All the steps, Well the journey.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I want my dad to turn the car around.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah Right, this is one of those where I would have
really appreciated it to be alldropped at once.
This needs to be a Netflix show.
But that's a you impatientthing, partly, partly Because
I'm okay.
I was okay weekly with Andor,but that's more geared towards

(38:13):
adults I'm always impatient.
That's just standard.
It's just a matter of I cantolerate it.
I can tolerate the slow burn.
If there's I don't know goodepisodes like what is it the sum
of the parts, type of thing,it's like I need the parts to be
good.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
So did you ever think Andor wasn't going to get out
of jail?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
No, I knew he was going to wait, considering we
know the story.
Of course, we knew he was goingto get out, so I put him in
danger to see how we can watch.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
So it works for andor , but not these little kids.
So, exactly because the kidshave, no purpose.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
We knew andor had a purpose.
We knew what he's going to, sowe need to see his growth of
where he's going, how he gotrecruited.
We, we're doing that, thisstory with these kids.
The kids are absolutelyirrelevant.
That's my point.
These kids are irrelevant.
Do they help?

Speaker 1 (39:04):
move the story.
They started the story.
Yeah, that's irrelevant.
They absolutely do that.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
But okay, let me change it.
They're irrelevant in the sensethat there's no care for them.
We cared about Andor and in thecourse of the show we cared
about the whatever his name wasthat helped me get out of prison
.
Services care, yeah, we caredabout them.
These kids?
Nobody gives a shit about thesekids and oh, are they going to
get a home?
Who gives a fuck?

(39:31):
Question is why is their planethidden?
That's the real question.
That's the real question.
That's the real mystery.
Not how do these kids get home?
Will they make it home?
Who gives a fuck?
Or, oh, this kid, he showed hewas a hero.
And this girl really isn't astough as she thinks she is.
We all knew that.
We all knew she wasn't as toughas she played off.
I mean, hello, that's not news.
And also don't care.

(39:51):
Get to the point where why thisplanet is hidden but I think
that you could.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
You could have.
The difference, I think, withandor is that they the side
characters that they brought in,and the way that they
introduced them, made you careabout them in a way that when
they had to sacrifice somethingat the end I don't know any
other names- yeah, that's threeyears ago.
I don't know any other names butmy point is that they at the

(40:17):
time they had side charactersthat you cared about, and so
when something bad happened tolike if the girl that neil with
nice hair was hitting on, if shewould have joined them and
something happened to her, cool,now you're like, like lou was
saying, you're buildingconsequences, right, is she?
Is she imperative to the mainstory?
No, but she's also helpingfurther the, the development of

(40:40):
the big story, right?
What happens if maybe neil'sthe one that throws the rocks,
to me goes crazy.
She jumps in front and maybemakes a sacrifice, right, she
takes a bolt, a laser blast orsomething like that, sacrificing
herself for him because sheknows that he's not a warrior,
right, and she obviously hasbecome fond of him over that 10

(41:02):
minute piece.
But then something bad happensto her and now Neil has to grow
up and put his big point pantson.
But I'm saying like, so there'sthings I think you can do to
take the characters that youhave in the world and improve
the story to where that thatcontains story you care about.
If it's just the five of themand the droid, and then that's

(41:24):
it and you have people.
The girl isn't going to comeback into the episode.
Any going to be any part of theseries anymore.
They already resolved that.
Right, they're going to walkback to the ship afterwards and
be like, well, what are we goingto do now?
And then whatever they haveconstructed to do that.
But I feel like when you havecharacters like the girl from

(41:44):
the tribe, use that.
Use that to make us care aboutwhat's happening in the show.
And if she needs to die or getseverely injured or whatever to
make us care about the rest ofthe kids and raise the level of
danger, then do that.
Make her a red shirt.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
That's fine, because then at least you go oh, like
shit, like these kids can dieright more importantly, what
people are are failing tounderstand or realize or
question is jude law comes back,gives them the opies and all he
wants is them children and them.
Adults at the camp aren'tquestioning this man who wants

(42:22):
four Kids.
It's like what is going on here.
They're like, okay, you wantthese children, have at it.
We're not going to question whyyou want these children because
they treat their children likeAdults.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
So they're probably already doing that shit, but
that but again you could havehad.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
You could have had the girl go, I'm gonna go with
them and then her dad go no, no,we need you here, you're gonna
take over for me.
I'm old, whatever, whatever, no, no, I'm gonna go with them and
make sure that they're okay.
Right now, you have somebodythat you can do things with,
somebody that you can put intodanger that isn't affecting your
main cast.

(42:57):
Right, you can have somebodypotentially who could die,
because now then the kids injude law would then have to go
back to the tribe and talk tothe father and maybe have.
There could be a.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
A piece that comes from that as well, and then
start a story more to make louiseven more mad but, now the
story is not not if this, not ifthis story had relevance right
now we're but now the story isnot going forward, not if the
story had relevance Now theconsequences is relevant to
these characters?
No, there's nothing that's goingto get on the ship and leave
the planet Like, ah sorry, wekilled your daughter, but we're
out what would have been cool ifthey were to stay on this

(43:29):
planet and do like four episodeson this planet and resolve
everything from this planet toget back.
And then you start bringing inthe stuff Duke's talking about
with these characters and thegirl and the relationships, Okay
, great.
But I just don't expect that tohappen.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
I expect them to hop to the next thing, it's like
okay, what's next?

Speaker 2 (43:48):
They haven't given me an episode, so Right, you could
have spent three or four onthis one, you didn't have to
resolve.
You don't have to resolve.
You don't have to like planetof the week, you don't?
We don't have to have planet orpit stop or pirate stop of the
week and we mean we don't havebut at least that's what's going
to happen.
Yeah, but mando was a bettershow.
Mando, you know, with characterdevelopment.

(44:10):
You cared about what's happenedto mando and everybody cared
about even non-star wars.
Fans cared about what happenedto Grogu.
So there was something thereLike again with this.
I don't know how anybody couldcare about these kids.
Unless you had kids.
No, no, even then.
Even then, with the way thestory is going, does anybody

(44:32):
care about these kids?
Just Neil.
Yeah, but he's got good hair.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
So come on now.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
You got that kind of jail going.
I mean, although his jailfailed him, you can see the
little slap in the air it failedhim this episode.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Hey, my hair gets all wild when I get stressed out
too, okay.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
It happens, it happens, but I just like to care
about the characters and I justabsolutely do not care about
these characters.
Is it just how they werewritten, how the story's written
?
I'm not sure which it is.
I'm not sure if it's because ofhow the story is going or how
the characters are written.
I'm not sure which it is.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
But for whatever reason, I just don't care about
it.
I think that the kids aren'tthe story.
The story is.
What you care about is theplanet.
Yeah, with the planet, wewouldn't care about Aten if they
didn't escape, if they weren'ttrying to get back.
So I don't think the kids arethe story.
The story is everything else.

(45:28):
They're just.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Right, but if that's the case, then all we care about
are the points to the planet.
So when stuff like happened inthe last episode with the kids,
I'm just sitting there likegreat get to the part where
they're going to go to thelibrary and learn what they need
to learn, because the kidsaren't the story, like you said.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
But there's also Hero's Journey, where the same
thing happened to Luke.
If you've read that old shit,what did he base that?
George Lucas based it onsomething, some old Chinese
writing or whatever.
Man of a Thousand Faces no.
It's a hero's journey, where heleaves his planet, he changes,

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comes back to his planet andchanges man and does stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Like every Western that you watch, right.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, but again these kids leave.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
they're going to change, they're going to come
back and they're going toliberate their planet from the
First Order, while they'recloning Snoke and then somehow
Palpatine Exactly Problem solved, that's.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
My fear is that all they're doing right now is and
I've seen a couple headlines forarticles talking about it like
how is Skeleton Crew going tolink Last Jedi and Rise of
Skywalker right?
I expect it to as well, andthat's my concern, is that the
going back to your point, jack,you were talking about it being

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the journey.
Sure, but if you've alreadydetermined the destination and
you're now fitting the story tomeet your destination right,
this isn't part of the journey.
This is us just getting to thedesk Like they're doing the
minimum amount of work needed.
This is us just getting to thedesk like they're doing the
minimum amount of work needed toget us to the destination,
which is going to explain thecloning and the, the uh, huge

(47:10):
fleet of ships that palpatinehas and all that kind of stuff
in skywalker.
If that's the end of the season, if that's the end of this
series, that to me will be verydisappointing, because it means
that they started at the end andhad to work their way back to
point a, as opposed to tellingan organic story that you know
does that make sense.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Well, yeah, but Mandalorian has been doing that
since the beginning and and ordid it to a small degree, but
mostly Mandalorian.
Uh, they're like episode ninedidn't go over too well.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Let's have this show, fill in some gaps and see if we
can do better with it.
I mean, I mean they did thatwith book of boba fett, like 100
, that too but I don't think,man, I don't think mandalorian
started out that way, because Idon't think mandalorian was.
I don't think they brought inthat cloner dude like episode
two right I was like that wasright off the bat, but I think
it was to tell the story.
Like the story that they weregoing to tell number one, they

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had more time to tell it and sowhen you have gideon and you
have all of that, that piece ofit right, the, the dark saber,
whatever, no, the, uh, well, thedark saber, but then the shadow
council yeah, the shadowcouncil, like you, have all of
that to set up your, yourdestination.
But that doesn't mean thateverything that you're doing

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with Mandalorian was to get tothat destination is my point,
but it was.
But when you're telling thestory they had sidetracks.
Mandalorian has his ownself-contained story, right,
that Gideon and all of themhappen to just be.

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He happens to get involved inthat situation.
It wasn't the point of episodeone.
They're like, oh, guess whatthis is?
You know, you can tell withthis, this story that, like I
said, that's my concern is thatwhen we get to episode eight,
that that will just be the endand then you'll be like, well,

(49:08):
what was the point of the otherseven episodes, like Lou was
saying, right, like there's, why, why are we following these
kids?
What's the consequence of thesekids at the end?
Like, what's, what's theircharacter arc going to be?
What's their From episode oneto episode eight?
What changed with them?
And so far we haven't seen anyof that.
There hasn't been, besides Ferngoing like I'm not a captain, I

(49:30):
don't know what I'm doing, andNeil going, which we all knew
Right.
And then, Neil going.
You know, when Neil did thelittle scoot over with the girl
when he was like, hey, what's up?
That's pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Check out the hair, you know.
Oh, is that my trunk in thepopcorn bucket.
My bad.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
So I think that's the difference is that both
Mandalorian, even Andor, I thinkthey, while you knew what the
destination was, I don't thinkthere.
I don't never felt like theywere making that the point of
the show.
I never felt like they weremaking that the point of the
show.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Like with Andor.
Well, it wasn't obvious.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
anyway, it was the point of the show Right like,
but they didn't make it obviousat all.
And you can go back and look atit and say oh okay like we
could.
Yeah, but my point is thatAndor still felt organic.
Andor still felt like a storyof a person going from point A
to point B.
right, I was thinking more Mando, but yeah, but even Mando to
one degree or another, you know,with the Planet of the Weak and

(50:26):
that type of stuff, right, thatyou know, at the end of the day
, like Gideon and everything,you could have, had him be a
nebulous, just outsider,imperial dude, wanting, you know
, wanting, grogu's stem cells orwhatever, but you, you don't
necessarily have to tie him tothe shadow council, tying him to

(50:49):
snoke, blah, blah, blah, blah,right you didn't have to.
But they did.
But.
But you could have cut that offand made gideon his own
character, and it wouldn't havechanged anything, because gideon
was still wanted the power forhimself, regardless of what the
dark council and everybody elsewas saying.
Right To me, that's thedifference.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Right, I see what you're saying, but they couldn't
do that because we know thefuture.
Like, you can't have Gideonjust out there.
There have to be a reason andall that for him.
So I see what you're saying andif we did it, if we didn't have
the sequel trilogy, then Iwould 100 vacuum.
I was like, yeah, they could dothat, but because we know how
it played out, they can't justhave this random person like.

(51:26):
They basically have to explainit, like, like, when all said
and done, they have to explainrogan how he's not in the mix.
Ahsoka, they ahsoka did a goodjob of explaining why she's not
in the mix in the future,because she's on a different
freaking universe or galaxy,rather, yeah.
So so they have to do thesethings is because they wrote

(51:47):
themselves into a corner withthe sequel trilogy.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
But I guess the difference, at least for me,
between like Amanda and orskeleton crew is that I felt
like those stories and thosecharacters could stand on their
own without needing.
Oh yeah, I'll back you on thatfor sure.
And so I don't feel like we'vegotten there with the skeleton
crew yet.
We're still waiting to see howthey're going to connect it to.

(52:10):

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I totally get it, I
totally get it and hopefully byepisode eight.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
we'll have some answers, but and I think that
you, that you know lou to mejust from what you're saying,
that to me is is my biggestconcern is that, like you said,
you don't care about any of thecharacters because they haven't
established any stakes for thosecharacters in the grand story,
right?
So if any of them were to die,you'd be like sorry, like you

(52:37):
know, because because again,there's no, there's still no
consequences, there's no stakesbeing built.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
But really what we're saying is, the only person
that's done this well is DaveFiloni, when he made Clone Wars.
To make the prequels better,dave should just write all of
Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
I don't know, wasn't he a green lighting acolyte?

Speaker 4 (52:57):
He was the head of whatever and Book of Boba Fett.
And Book of Boba Fett, so Idon't know he, he was the head
of whatever and Book of BobaFett.
So I don't know, he's just aproducer but he approved it.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Remember he's the Kevin Feige of the Star Wars
universe the de facto so if he'sapproving that crap, I don't
know if we can trust him anymoreeither and again, don't get me
wrong, especially with Mandoseason 3 after basically Mando
season 3, the story of Bo-Katan,I mean yeah, that should have
been its own thing.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
You shut your whore mouth about bokatan, but bokatan
could have been her own.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
They could have made a bokatan series, and I would
have been more curious about her, her being by herself on her
little planet and throne.
That to me would have beenfascinating.
It's like when you guys getaround to watching craven.
Craven's brother is morefascinating to me than Kraven is
.
You'll see what I mean when youwatch it.
But it was like okay, this is.

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I want more of his story.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
But I mean you could have easily after season two of
Mando spun off and had aBo-Katan that maybe intersected
with Mando in certain spots, forsure.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
But having it be the.
Like having two episodes justfocus on Mando.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen that before so that would
be kind of cool yeah.
And that way, when people jumpback in, they won't know what
Guys.
It worked once, but, yeah, Ifeel like that was a missed
opportunity because I think theycould have given Bo-Katan her
own series, made that seriesstrong, while also keeping

(54:25):
Mandalorian strong withoutundercutting it, undercutting
both of them by forcing them tobe together through the journey,
you know.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah, I agree, I've been fine with that.
It was just the moment theystarted going away from Mando
and all that.
It was like God, god, here wego and I don't mean, I don't
even think I would.
I would put this in the uh, puta chick in it and make a gay
category.
I wouldn't even put it in that,it's just.
I think they just didn't haveenough episodes to do bow by

(54:55):
herself or didn't want to and tohave man, because what we're
gonna do?
Four episodes of mando, seasonthree, and then a four episode
series of bocatan.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
So they're like fuck it, we'll put all together and
and it just was not well,because as soon as you make a
female lead, led star wars show,everybody shits on it wait, are
we calling fern the lead of aslong?

Speaker 3 (55:13):
as long as it's bad, then yeah, I mean, I don't know
leia was.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Leia was a lead, she was a co-lead.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Yeah, so co-leads are fine.
If it was just a Bo-Katan show,people would have shit on it.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
I doubt it If it would have tied in some loose
ends from Clone Wars, like whathappened to her nephew or son,
whatever the hell her role.
The boy's name Kimber.
The boy's name in Clone Wars.
He had a stupid-ass name too,yep, either way, clone Wars.
He had a stupid-ass name too,yep, either way.
So stuff like that and gettinginto some of that backstory
flashbacks with her and hersister would have been so cool,

(55:47):
some stuff like that.
I don't think people would havecomplained too much about that.
Again, it's not about Nobodygives a shit about female leads.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
It's too much of a deep cut, though, because people
are watching Mandalorian nowthey did not go back and watch
Clone Wars.
They don't give a shit abouther sister or her weird-named
nephew that might be Obi-Wan'sson, they don't care.
So they were like who cares?
Who cares about her sister?
Nobody gives a rat's ass.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Yeah, they'd have to almost, unfortunately retell the
whole thing.
Yeah, and they can't really dothat.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
So that's why, if they, want to bring back Bo
because he did.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
He has to do it via Mando.
That was the only way Bo couldcome back.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Yeah, probably.
But then what they should havedid then is still make it a
Mando, bring in Bo slowly, nothave her take over the way they
did and then do a spinoff afterMando Season 3.
Focus more on mando still inthat one and then let her go do
her thing, especially sinceshe's there.

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The way season three ended,with her kind of taking over
back on on mandalore, I was likewhat the hell man?
I want to see that story now.
What are they gonna do?
I mean, they thought it wasthis place where they couldn't
live, and now they can.
They're gonna build back upthis whole thing.
I want to see that play out.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Which it can, because Mando left, he went back to.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Absolutely.
Now they could do Bo-KatanSeason 1 with that story.
Unfortunately, we had to gothrough Mando Season 3 to get
there.
But fine, we suffered throughthat.
Now let's pick up and writesome good shit.
Because up and write some goodshit?
Because Star Wars fans don'tgive a shit about your color,
Don't give a shit about your sex.
You want to have female lead.
Male lead who gives a rat's ass?
Star Wars fans care about goodwriting and that's it.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Book of.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Boba.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Fett had a male lead, just saying and it sucked.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yeah, people hated it .
So it's not that it's justAcolyte Obi-Wan, these shows
that are just horrible.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
It's because the writing's horrible, not because
of who the lead is I think thebiggest problem with Book of
Boba Fett was the structure, Imean the writing and the the
writing.
Consequently, because of thestructure, by shoehorning in,
shoehorning in, shoehorning inthese flashbacks, instead of
just giving me a flashback tobuild to that point, right,

(58:00):
point right yeah, because was hewith the tuscans for years?

Speaker 1 (58:04):
was that a couple days?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
I still don't know and I feel, like you could have
had the flashback sequence allin one block and then had him
the scene with him beingintroduced into mando, and then
the next episode is him leavingmando.
Right, then you're giving a thestory without having to do this
choppy like okay is mando, wait, wait, what where are we at

(58:29):
with?
Okay, it's just you have themetal guts, yet is she this?
Is he doing this?
Like what's going on here?

Speaker 2 (58:35):
like how do we not just get a simple?
Three years later, four yearslater, how do we just not get
something simple?

Speaker 1 (58:40):
like that.
People are way Artistic types.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
People are way too, artistic these days, but my
point is I think if they wouldhave told it as a straight
narrative, as opposed to thisjumping timelines, it would have
been a much better show.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
There's definitely a way to do a Fast and Furious I
said that back when they weredoing the sequels.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
I'm like, oh yeah, it's gonna be a flashback and
I'm like star wars doesn't doflashbacks and there's a reason
why the shit just does not work,not with them.
You're right, it just does notwork.
Even when clone wars did it andthey showed all those episodes
out of order.
We have to watch clone wars ina certain order, so it's in the
correct order.
Uh-huh, that shit stillconfused me.
Didn't this already happen?

(59:22):
I had to make sure I waswatching the right season,
because I'm like we moved pastthis, didn't we?

Speaker 2 (59:28):
I was like, wait a minute, they already got out of
Cad Bane's little trap in theSenate we're going back to
Resolve.
It's so funny.
Once that happened, I stillhave the bookmark of the page
that has them in the right order, so when I want to go back and
rewatch, I can watch them in theproper order, because I can't
do that.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
The movie's not even the first part.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
I know right, the movie came out first.
There's stuff that happensbefore that.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
So stupid, real quick .
The only counter to theargument that I think as far as
or it just confirms the skeletoncrew conversation is Resistance
.
Right, resistance had the worstmain character, but I still
enjoyed the show.
I hated the character buteverything else around it, all

(01:00:15):
of the supporting characters andall of the stuff that happened
in the show.
Again, even though I knew whatthe end was going to be, I felt
like it was still a good showand that's why I continued.
I wasn't hate-watching thatshow.
It was somebody where thatcharacter just was not written
very well, but everything elsewith the story I felt like was

(01:00:38):
good right.
They had enough support.
Right, they had enough support.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Right, they had it he did, yeah, okay, but I stopped
watching it because I hate himso much.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
But they had enough supporting characters and enough
of those characters that haddeveloped like they had
developed their own characterarcs that they could carry
episodes on their own, even withhim undermining it.
I felt like, and that's why Iwas able to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Are there ballerinas on your shirt?
It's a girl surfing, okay, Isaw.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Lift your titty up more Right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I saw this and I was like sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
I just lost focus.
She's drinking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Jack said wear something festive.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
That's fair, so okay, so that show got better than
did you, I mean, or what it wasless annoying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
I think that dude, it's like watching ahsoka and
ezra and you're like, oh, myfucking god but I think it's
better.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
What they did was that they stopped making him the
focus of all of everything.
He always had other characterswith him, and I think that they
stopped making him the focus ofall of everything.
He always had other characterswith him and I think that was
the beginning of the series.
He was doing stuff on his ownonce, I think once they realized
, oh, this character needssupport.
He never went and did stuff onhis own, he always had his
dragon supporting.

(01:01:57):
Yeah, he was always draggingsomebody around or somebody was
dragging him around, and thosecharacters I feel like all were
written pretty well and overcamehis shortcomings as a character
.
I'll agree with Jack on thatone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Did they know he was a spy?

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Eventually, yes, and that's when it got better.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Every goddamn episode is like I'm a spy.
Oh my god, okay, okay.
I think I watched six, seven,seven, eight episodes.
Okay, I'm done, can't doanything.
I never went back to rewatchthose they did two seasons of
that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Right, yeah, season two is definitely better than
season one.
Yeah, yeah, once.
Once everybody figured out,once the people on the ship
figured out he was the spy, andthen having those characters
have their own arcs in dealingwith him being the spy made the
show a much better show, asopposed to them all living their

(01:02:49):
lives and him being like I'm aspy, I'm gonna spy stuff, I'm
james bond.
Once everybody knew and itwasn't focused on him doing
stupid.
Again, the kids running throughthe, the pirate bay, going at,
at, and guys, where's that at?
And could somebody take us toadd out, and and all the pirates
going what, that whole scenewhen they were like what planet

(01:03:10):
are you from?
And one of the kids goes out,out and then the other three are
like, yeah, our planet's at, at, and I'm like what are you
fucking doing?

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
like what's happening .
They don't know that theirplanet is special.
It's's just a planet, andthey've never seen stars before.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Okay, so I guess that's an example of a show that
got better.
I mean, there's still fourepisodes left.
This one could get better.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Counting on it but it could.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
I mean I'm still going to watch it, it's because
I'll make you.
I will make you watch itBasically and I'll make myself
watch it twice.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Jack will make you watch it once, and then you're
like, okay, I'll go back andwatch it again If he doesn't
watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
I'm going to text his girlfriend.
Hey, make Lou watch this Right,for real.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Yeah, I'll watch it Tuesday the second time.
I'll watch it before the nextepisode, and I'm already going
in liking the last episode Iwatched.
So it's like, okay, I'm gonnatrick myself, I'm gonna trick
myself into enjoying this boringshit like when you smell steak
but you're eating tofu right,it's like okay, okay, we're
having bacon, I have bacon goingon over here either of you

(01:04:11):
watched the first episode ofwhat if?

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
no, no, I forgot that shit was on dude, so did I.
Only reason I know is becausethe plex popped up and said hey,
what if?

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Was that today?

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Yeah, today it was today.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Okay, I did watch all of.
Like I say, I did watch all ofSecret Level, all 15 episodes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
I didn't hear a lot of great stuff about it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
I'm going to tell you right now, of 15 episodes there
were probably seven that werejust badass.
I was like, damn, this was good, so it's only half.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
And that's you not even know most of the games,
right, because you're not theonly guy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
I'm sitting here watching this and I'm all like I
have no idea what this game is.
The one that I did enjoybecause I did play it back in
the day, but I played it on PCwas Unreal Tournament.
That episode Probably myfavorite.
The Unreal Tournament episodewas my favorite.
It was just even the voice.
They said that, the voice foryou know Killing Spree and all
that it was like, oh my god,this threw me back to fucking

(01:05:07):
2000.
Yeah, that was one of the.
It was so, you're right,exactly, it was so good.
But a lot of those space sci-fiepisodes that they had, I mean
I guess they're kind of allsci-fi but the space episodes
man.
And then there was a I mean Iguess they're kind of all sci-fi
but the space episodes man.
Then there was a philosophicalepisode, I think second to last
episode, that one was reallygood, the philosophical episode.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
But you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
I didn't know these games.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
I read something that said it was funny because I
think like two or three of thegames have already like
X-Defiant, there's an episoderevolving around X-Defiant and
that game's been shuttered.
You can't play it anymore.
There was two or three gameslike that where they made
episodes for secret level, butyou can't actually play the game
.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
That's why they're on the secret level because you
can't actually play it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
The first episode.
You know what?
I'll tell you what I didn'tlike.
They didn't conclude some ofthe episodes.
The very first episode was aDungeons Dragons episode.
I was like, alright, this iscool, but I want to know what
happens.
I was like, what the hell?
Where's the rest?
So hopefully it's a season 2and they go back and finish it,
but I want to know how thatplayed out.

(01:06:13):
It was cool.
I'm looking at the list rightnow.
Saifu, I have no idea what thatwas.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
If you don't know what it was, it's probably a
sony but I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Yeah, the new world, oh, new world, unworld
tournament, that was good.
Warhammer was really good.
Holy crap, I forgot aboutwarhammer, that episode real new
world's the amazon, uh, okay uh, yeah, I don't know that.
One pac-man was okay.
Crossfire enjoyed.
I can't remember Armored Core,but that was good too.
Outer World was pretty funny,kind of stupid, but Mega man.

(01:06:46):
Mega man was only like sixminutes, but whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Exodus yeah, I didn't know, Exodus Speedlunky, I was
like man, whatever Concord,Honor of Kings, that's the one
that was badass second to lastepisode.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Concord's been cancelled.
Exodus the game is mentioned inthe context of Secret Level
episode Odyssey.
However, there is no releasedate announced for the game,
making it currently unplayable.
And then Shadow Labyrinth thisgame is scheduled for release in
2025 and is related to thePac-Man episode.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
There's three games that are revolving around the
show that you can't even playthe pac-man episode it was, I
don't know, it was okay, that'sone that I'd like to see play
out.
That's like you'll see what Imean when you watch it.
It's just like, oh, I want toknow where they're going with
this, uh.
So that was kind of cool.
But but overall though for aquick watch, 15 episodes less

(01:07:41):
than three hours or whatever thehell it was I binged it all and
I enjoyed it.
You know it was like all right,this is pretty happening, I
think.
Yeah, friday night, I think Ibinged it all Friday night.
I forgot it was out.
I was just going through to seewhat new stuff was out on all
the streaming devices and thatpopped up and I just stopped

(01:08:03):
right there and started watchingit.
I was like, oh, fuck it, I'lljust watch this.
Nice, so, super cool.
I think you guys will like.
I mean, overall, there's goingto be something like, oh, my God
, this was a waste of my time,but luckily it's a waste of my
time, but it was like 11 minutes, it's like okay move on to the
to you but then other ones.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
You're kind of like that's a great example, but the
ones that you like are reallyyou really like yeah, the ones
you like, you really like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
I think you buy the Roosevelt for it.
Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
I'm upset that they didn't have the Chewy hoodie
with a zipper, because I don'tlike.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Pullover hoodies.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
I don't like them the beard and the hair, the whole
nine.
If it had the zipper that Icould put it on like a jacket.
So I wasn't too.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Broken up.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
I wasn't too broken up when I saw that it was
already sold out, so but did itsell out?
Yeah, yeah oh wow, a few ofthose things sold out like right
away, like I checked it thatafternoon and it was like gone.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
If I see, if it's like oh, pull over, nope, I
won't, I won't even consider ityeah even the vader ones I would
not like.
If there's a cool looking vaderone, I I'm like yeah, no, no,
I'm never going to wear it.
So you give me a zip-up likethat.
Or if it's a sweatshirt likethe one Duke got me a couple
months back.
That one I've worn a few times,especially out here in the cold
.
That's different, but the waythe Roosevelt is no.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
They're like the athletic, like slim fit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Yeah, I think they're like dry fit kind of.
I don't know I haven't gottenany of them yet, Not if I'm like
, yes, I gotta have that, yeah,I'll pass.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Oh, dude those people .
I'm kind of laughing at thosefolks who bought those black
pearl boxes Right.
I'm sort of like I'm glad I didnot waste my $350 on that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Yeah, some of them got hosed you got hosed on your
shit.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
I want no part of that lou.
Did you get the reversible?

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
jacket, which one?
The?
Dark side one yeah, it's a zipup I don't even know if I saw
that one.
You got a screenshot that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Oh yeah, I'll say I'll put the link in the chat
yeah, I was gonna say, or sharescreen look I mean it looked
kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
I don don't remember that one, was it new?

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Yeah, yeah, it got released with the.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
You know what?
I think I only saw the Chewy,Didn't realize there were more
and I just didn't even look.
When it came out I was likenope, that's just the Chewy,
it's in chat.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Yeah, it's like the.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Thrawn one, they did.
The.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Th?
Uh, that's not bad.
That's not a bad jacket.
Oh, it's the performance.
I don't know that I would, uh,I don't know that I would have
bought it, but even if it waslike if it was still in stock
right now, I don't know that Iwould have bought it.
I like it, though.
I mean it's kind of weird.
The vader.
I don't like the angle thatvader's at.
I like it when it's black.
The black version.
That looks cool.
Join the dark side, fulfillyour destiny, destiny.
I like that look.
But the it is just the angle ofVader that I.

(01:10:57):
Yeah, it is kind of weird.
That whole Vader coming fromthat angle just just looks weird
to me.
But the like I.
I don't most have that thing onthe black side permanently,
cause that looks cool.
Well, it's Roosevelt.
So I'll redo them.
It seems to do them Seems to bethe thing.
Just wait six months and thenif I have one of those discount
coupons, then I'll do itEventually.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Or when Jack gives you one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
I have three.
I have three.
I was able to take somepictures.
I think it was when we were atthe football game Me and old
girl had Roosevelt's on, so Itook the pictures of us in them
so I could get two right there.
Then I did one before that.
So I currently have threecoupon codes.
Yeah, boy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
So just wait.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Vicious, vicious cycle I never listed my
Comic-Con stuff, so I still gotto do that on eBay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Damn dude, but I'm sure I will.
I guess I'm lazy too.
I'm looking over here.
I'm like I still got a bunch ofshit to post, right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
I'll get to it when I get.
Well since we're pretty deepinto the episode I was going to
say, yeah, I'm looking at theclock.
I have a 24 for you.
Well, I was just going to saywhat are you guys doing for?

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Christmas Like what are your guys'?

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
plans Working.
You're working all throughChristmas.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Yeah, my regular shift Christmas Eve and
Christmas Day.
Do you get anything extra forthose Shit Time?

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
and a half Double time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
No Time and a half no , so we can take time or money
For our holidays.
So I just take time.
So I'll put 10 hours In myvacation bank both days.
Oh, that's cool, nice, I'm notthe asshole at work running out
of vacation time.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Ever.
Then you just fit in the familystuff around work.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Yeah, we'll get up early on Christmas To do
presents and shit.
I tell them it'll be a cool day.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Yeah, because you go in it.
You leave at the house, at 8.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
No, not on a regular day, Not until like 10.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Yeah, swing shift right, you're done at 9, 8, 30,
something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Yeah, I work 11 to 9.
Is it just?

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Mondays that you do that 9 o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Monday and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Thursday do anything with your mom.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
No, her birthday's New Year's Eve, so we'll
probably take her out to lunchor something probably be
afterwards, honestly like theweekend after yeah, not really.
Our guest room's not set up allthe way to keep people in the
house.
I don't think I want her in thecasino.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
What about?

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
you, you got plans.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
No plans.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Yeah, I'm kind of the same boat.
We'll, I mean, oh girl, be herewith me on Christmas Eve and
Christmas Day, but we don't like.
We'll probably go watch movies.
Honestly, like I told you,christmas eve, we're watching
that, uh, bob dylan movie, we'llprobably watch something I'm
not sure, well, nosferatu onchristmas day, and then we'll do
.
We were discussing that earliertoday and yesterday what to do

(01:13:43):
for dinner christmas eve, we'regoing to go to a restaurant
called black ip, basically likea cafe style, but apparently she
that's like a tradition thatshe has if she was with her dad
or something like that.
So I'll do it out here with herto have pot roast.
It's a thing that she does.
I'm like, all right, I'm down.
And then Saturday, I'm sorry,and then Wednesday, christmas
day, we'll do like a like a ribroast or some some kind of steak

(01:14:04):
, and then, you know, likemashed potatoes or scallop
potatoes or what did she?
Yeah, yeah they will do it theyare bomb.
Okay, I'll say we'll do that onchristmas day and then, like I
said, we'll watch nosferatuafterwards.
But that's about it.
Then I'm back to work.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Popcorn bucket so chase pop in it.
What you haven't seen, that, oh.
You've been sleeping allweekend, so what are you talking
about?
One of the theaters is sellingthe nosferatu coffin popcorn
bucket and it has a chasenosferatu pop in it that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Okay, that's cool.
Wait, wait, wait.
All of them have the chase orI'm not 100.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Sure, I haven't looked into it a lot because I
think it's a real thing anyway,so oh, well then, yeah, let me
know, because I have a ton ofregals up here, I can go check
out I only have one near me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Really, that's in long mod.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
I think I have three yeah that's cool, though, so
right, but if that's's cool,though, if that's something you
guys would be interested in, letme know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Alright, right on, and the Nosferatu on Christmas
Day will be my platinum movie.
That'll be the one that gets methe platinum.
Merry Christmas to Lou.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
I have a couple of friends who don't do their
families or other side of thecountry, so they go to this
place called my father's place,which is one of those like it's
like downtown and it's one ofthose places it's been there for
like 60 years and the floor isjust you walk in and it's like
like this, like it's one ofthose dingy, dirty, local bar
type of places but they havereally really good food and so,

(01:15:30):
uh, I'll probably I might jointhem for christmas day go get
myself a chicken fried steak.
They were like well, maybewe'll find something to do on
Christmas Eve.
And I'm like strip club,because all the strip clubs will
be open on Christmas Eve.
Are they really Is?

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
that a.
Thing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
I mean, christmas Eve is always so weird because
there are places that are openregular hours, there are places
that close early, there areplaces that are open later.
There are places that closeearly.
There are places that are openlater.
There are places that you knowand the christmas day it's like
you know places open up late butthen they still open and some
places stay closed.
Like that was always afrustrating thing for me when I
worked.
Christmas was figuring out,like if I worked christmas day,

(01:16:07):
figuring out which fast foodplaces were open and or closed.
And a lot of them that are likefranchises.
It would depend on thefranchise owner on if they were
open.
So you'd drive down the streetand you'd see like three del
tacos owned by the same place.
All three of them would beclosed.
You get to the fourth one.
The fourth one's open, you know, because it's owned by somebody
else just go to a chineserestaurant yeah, there you go

(01:16:29):
they're always open.
A teriyaki bowl, call it goodyeah, I was good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Yeah, I know that's a lot of traditions for people.
They'll do Chinese on ChristmasDay.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Well, that's because of Christmas story.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Because of Christmas story.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Oh, is that what that's from?
I don't even know.
I just know a lot of peopledon't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
After the dogs run out with the turkey and they
have to try to figure out whatthey're going to eat the only
place that's open serving foodis the Chinese food restaurant
in town.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
I've been too long since I've seen that movie.
I've never seen what's the onewhere the guy is like he's going
to commit suicide or something.
It's a Wonderful.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Life.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Yeah, that one.
I haven't seen that one.
I want to, though I read kindof a synopsis on it and I was
like this movie seems kind ofcool.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
It's pretty good, I think it was Rona, we watched it
.
I think it was Rona.
We were watching a bunch ofmovies during Rona because she
couldn't do nothing else, so wewould just watch a ton of movies
and just catch up and show thegirls shit.
It could also be Die Hard.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
That's just like a staple.
It doesn't need to be Christmas, but that is a staple.
That's great Christmas.
You know, what I haven't seenall year the holiday cartoons.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
I haven't seen charlie brown on tv.
We talked about this shitalready.
It's on apple.
That's the only place.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Yeah, I know, I know for streaming, but I thought
they still they don't dobroadcast.
No apple bought only apple,yeah oh, I thought they still
sold it out to abc or somethingI did see, I saw rudolph.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
I saw rudolph at work .
I haven't seen frosty or thegrand what channel it was on.
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
That's wild, all these people.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
After Rudolph I got all that shit on my Voodoo
anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
F you Apple, I ain't paying $10 a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
They get them on sale .

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
They put them in a bundle dude.
I'll wait every year.
No, the bundle is stillexpensive too.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
I was at Walmart yesterday or the day before, not
on food.
Whenever I was Lou, I'll sendyou a link.
You'll be taken care of, I'lltake care of you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
All right, sounds good.
I'm too cheap.
You know what Exactly?
Raider style.
We'll watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
$8 a month for you, cut you a good deal.
Cut you a good deal $8 a month.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Man, man, I'm about to just, I'll just wait every
year and get my 30 day appleplus description there you go,
there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
Time to buy your phone right, exactly, quick jack
.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Quick thoughts on indie um, I only played the
beginning and so far I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
It's very pretty, it definitely looks good the voice
actor superb, but he's the guythat did the voice for Last of
Us.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Yeah, he nailed it.
Dude, you cannot even tell it'snot Harrison.
Yeah, but it was kind of coolbecause you play through the
opening of Raiders right upuntil the boulder comes.
So it was kind of cool just tosee that remade and playing it.
It was kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
That's cool.
Did you see Harrison Ford onthe Video Game Awards?

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Yeah, I ended up watching that.
If I knew this guy was going tobe so good, I would have done
it myself.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
That'll be a game that I'll get when it won't sell
, to just sit in the queue andnot get played ever.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
All you have to do is get Game Pass and it'll be
there for free forever, justsitting there teasing you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Game Pass ain't free.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Well included with your Game Pass, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Just pay for Game Pass for one month.
It's $10.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
I don't even pay for what is it Xbox Live anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
I don't play any games when they moved you off of
your avatar.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Wait, my avatar's different.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
I thought I read something that said Xbox was
taking away the avatars.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
They got rid of the avatars.
What the?

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
hell for Our little character dudes.
No, I still got my little guyso far he's up there, but I
think they closed the store, orsomething.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
You can't modify it.
Oh, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
My guy's wearing a Magic the Gathering shirt.
Why would they get rid of them?
What's the point of that?

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
They didn't use them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Yeah, people just don't use them anymore.
I mean, it was just there to bea picture.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Who cares, I mean, if you don't use them?
But I think it's.
Also.
I've read a bunch of stufftalking about Xbox.
While they're working on likethe next xbox, it's not their
focus, like they're.
They're moving to making xboxubiquitous across, like all
platforms.
Right, being able to play it onyour tv through your tv, being
able to play it on your phone,on your steam deck, on all like
all these different applications, as opposed to, oh, you have an

(01:20:48):
xbox and it's a thing, right,that sounds complicated.
Well, I mean, in a way, it'skind of simplifying it, because
that means that, no matter whatyou have, you could still,
because I I mean they've beenthird place in the console wars
for decades now, behind nintendoand sony, and I think they're
finally realizing like, hey, oursoftware, our video games are

(01:21:09):
our strength.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
So they want to impress me.
They need to put where I canwatch the football game up in
the corner and half my tv andplay my xbox puzzle games on the
other half of my tv and nothave to play xbox on my tv and
stream the football game on mylaptop.
They want to impress me back inthe day where you could do
picture in picture and split.

(01:21:31):
Guy used to have a tv that hadtwo tuners and the split screen.
Go back to that shit.
You want to impress me.
Do that.
I'm looking at it now becauseI'm all like I should be able to
have like when I'm watching,like, oh, red Zone or the Monday
Night Football.
Monday Night Football is boring, it's a boring game.
I know I'll split the screen.
And why is that not a thing?
That just boggles the mind.

(01:21:53):
And why do they get rid ofsplit screen?
What the hell is the point ofthat Picture?

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
to picture.
Why is?
That gone, because they went.0001% of the people are using
it.
His name is Louis.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Man, my fault, everybody else is wrong.
Alright, we got it right.
It's 11.35.
I gotta get up in 7 hours.
6 hours Same, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Yeah, don't like it.
Don't like it, join us fellasWell, merry Christmas to all,
and to all a good night.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Happy Kwanzaa y'all Happy Hanukkah.

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