Two Dudes, One Podcast: Where's Lew?

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When one host is missing, it opens the door to unexpectedly deep reflections. In this uniquely intimate episode, Duke and Jack dive into the foundations of their three-decade friendship, revealing how what began as a simple "you both like Star Wars" connection blossomed into something far more meaningful.

The conversation flows through their shared obsessions—from detailed memories of wrestling pay-per-views watched together at the turn of the millennium to creating tag team personas in video games. Their nostalgic journey through the Attitude Era of WWE reveals not just their fandom, but how they navigated the more problematic elements of 90s entertainment while forming their own identities. "We were into the funny guys," they reflect, explaining how their appreciation for characters like Chris Jericho and The Rock shaped their perspectives.

Between lighthearted stories about driving through Compton as teenagers and spending entire days hunting for wrestling video games across Southern California, the pair share thoughtful observations about friendship itself. "You're not friends with somebody for 30 years and not have more in common," Jack notes, as they discuss how their connection evolved beyond collecting Star Wars toys to supporting each other through life's major transitions.

The episode also offers fascinating glimpses into their current interests, including Duke's experience beta testing the upcoming "Dune Awakening" survival game and their continuing appreciation for Disney collectibles. Their ability to transition between reminiscing about their past adventures and discussing current life developments demonstrates the enduring nature of their friendship.

Whether you're a longtime listener or discovering the podcast for the first time, this episode captures something universal about how meaningful connections are built and maintained over decades. What began with action figures and wrestling pay-per-views has clearly become a friendship that transcends any single shared interest—a powerful reminder that the best relationships grow alongside us.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
that's all we can do, or else we'll get a copyright
claim, right, what up?
You two will be like uh, hello,copyright claim.
Yeah, you're pulled for now,strike on your uh, strike on
your account.
You only get three.
Um, consider this a warning.
Greetings and salutations,hello, you'll notice it's a

(00:23):
little quiet today.
Yeah, because lou's not here.
Yeah, not even his uh german.
Uh, his german ai, uhrepresentative isn't even here.
She couldn't even show up.
Yeah, hayton, so it'll be.
It'll be a little different ofa podcast this week, I think.
Yep, I think lou last week wasjust jealous when I was telling
him about your dad answering thedoor and his chonies.

(00:45):
I, I think he was a littlejealous.
He missed out on that.
So he's like no, I'm going togo have fun and party on a
Sunday, like a weirdo.
No, he might join us, though,depending.
It's not looking hopeful.
Yeah, they have not even had.
They were out doing things, himand his lady friend, his lady

(01:08):
friend and so he texted sayingwe were supposed to be done in
like two hours and that wasthree hours.
Now it's three hours ago and westill have stuff to do, right?
So, whatever, that just meansto listen to this and be super
entertained.
Yeah, tell his friends, Ilearned so much about these guys
that I never knew before, right, um, shit, well, there's only

(01:33):
so much we can talk aboutwithout having to lose input on
some stuff.
Um, what did I do this weekworking thunderbolt, something
funny.
What happened I?
We did see thunderbolt sincethe last time we uh podcast that
I believe we all have actually,right, yes, yes, because I saw
it on tuesday.
You guys saw it on like sundayor something right like, yeah,

(01:56):
we went monday, monday and thensaturday night or something
right like some shit.
Yeah, so, uh, so happened.
I went to the dentist.
That was fun.
Yeah, no cavities, no.
So what had happened was mygums look good, my teeth are
clean, but I have these twoold-ass root canals on the top

(02:19):
right and I guess, with theirnew fancy imaging machine,
they're like oh, you haveabscesses under them.
I'm like mother, that doesn'tsound fun, but they don't hurt,
there's nothing bothering me.
So I don't know, maybe they'rescamming me, but I looked at it
and it did look weird on thescans.
But I'm not an x-ray guy, butthat's just replacing those

(02:39):
fillings.
They don't have to redo theroot canal because the root
canal is done, right, yeah, it'susually done and done, so I
don't think it'll be a big deal.
Yeah, I mean, they basicallythey'll drill it out, they'll
fix whatever, put some medicine.
Yeah, I think what they usuallydo is put pack some medicine in
there or, like, line it withsomething and then re so not a
big deal Resale it teeth.

(03:06):
Why can't we be sharks and justregrow that shit?
I know, huh, keep moving, keepswimming.
Right, just keep swimming, justkeep swimming.
Um, I don't think I signed annda or anything, but, uh, there
was a new game put out by the.
There's a new game coming out,put out by the developers of
conan exiles called duneawakening.
Okay, um, so it's like asurvival kind of rpg.

(03:30):
There's like a little bit of astory mode, but basically you
like create your character andyou pick their backstory.
The backstory gives you someabilities and gives you some
branches for chat and stuff like, stuff like that, right, um,
and then it drops you just onarrakis.
So you're on, you're on themain planet.

(03:51):
But my understanding of thebackstory and there were other
people that I was playing withthat didn't have the same like,
didn't see the same things butmy understanding is basically um
, wow, I can't paul paul arrakis, not paul arrakis face the main
character.
Yeah, yeah, trady's timothy,timothy chalame.
Well, willie wonka, williewonka, bob dylan is in the

(04:16):
desert.
He has his tube up his nose andthere's worms everywhere.
Yeah, yeah, like has like avision of what happens if he
doesn't, if, like, his daddoesn't die, right, so if Count
Atreides doesn't die, right, hismom Was that Poe Dameron, yeah,

(04:38):
poe Dameron, okay.
And then his mom like finds outthat the doctor is like
conniving, so then they bust thedoctor.
But then they're like, well,what happens then?
So then they said, basicallythe fallout from that is that
the Atreides never go to Arrakisand the Harkonnens just

(04:59):
basically kill all the Fremen.
And then you show up and I thinknow, but I think what happens
is you show up and I think now,but I think what happens is so
you show up and you're supposedto like do what paul did, like,
right, that's the goal orwhatever, but it's kind of just
a survival, kind of rust type ofthing.
Um, okay, okay, third personit's you know, you start out and
you have some quests and thequests unlock different, uh,

(05:23):
schematics that you can then useto like build a base and build
weapons and build outfits andstuff like that.
Um, so this weekend was thebeta uh for that and, um, yeah,
it was fun.
We uh, we played it a bunch onfriday and then a little bit
yesterday.
Um, but you get to play withyour dick out like in Conan.

(05:46):
You can.
You can be naked.
So the big trick is, if you geteaten by a standworm, you lose
everything on your person,including if you're on a
hyperbike.
So eventually you unlock ahyperbike that allows you.
One of the people we're playingwith said, oh, I'm naked in the

(06:06):
desert boys, and my question wassandworm?
And he said, yep, sandworm, hetook my bike too.
So, yeah, so it is Bob Dylan inthe desert.
Yeah, now he is Bob.
No, actually he's Jim Morrisonin the desert.
He transitioned to Jim Morrisonin the desert.
So sounds like from the story hetold he did not refuel his bike

(06:26):
in the desert.
He transitioned to Jim Morrisonin the desert.
So sounds like from the storyhe told he did not refuel his
bike and his bike died in themiddle of the desert between two
.
So, like, of course, thesandworms, if you can make it to
a rocky area, they won't eatyou.
He was like I'm a fuckingballer and I have my bike and
then he's like in the middle ofthis huge area and I have my
bike and then he's like in themiddle of this huge area and the
bikes, of course, make a lot ofnoise, his bike dies and the

(06:47):
sandworms is like gotcha bitch,you fucked around and now you
found out.
So, yeah, fucked around and nowyour ball's out.
Yeah, no shit.
So, yeah, so it was fun.
We'll probably pick it up whenit comes out.
I think it's uh, coming out forall consoles and everything.

(07:08):
Yeah, yeah, I think it is.
Yeah, I would have heard aboutit.
Yeah, so, but it's fun.
I mean again, charactercreation and kind of building
your own path and that type ofthing.
Uh, they have like sixdifferent kind of classes that
you could pick from that.
You have like a skill tree togo through.
Um, nice thing is that you canjoin like your friend's servers
and everything that's on you andyour spot, where you're at as

(07:29):
far as, like, the level goes,will transfer with you.
Uh, that's cool.
Yeah, so, but we had fun.
It was a good time.
So the beta, of course, endstonight, so probably will not
get any more time before.
Um, with the podcast andeverything won't get any more
time in.
That's alright.
Besides that, this week I gotcaught up on Andor, got caught

(07:52):
up on Last of Us, where Ellie'sgoing to be a dad, and it melted
down the internet.
Yeah, people, I don't know,dude, just enjoy it or don't
enjoy it.
If you don't enjoy it, don'twatch it.
Like, yeah, just stop the.
The amount of hate watchingthat happens with so many of

(08:13):
these shows these days.
Like it's just, yeah, I don'thave time to watch anything out
of hate, I don't have time forthat.
Yeah, I need to watch shit thatI like.
If I don't like it, I'm out,right, and I'll fucking go watch
youtube.
You know that's what I hatewatches youtube.
Right, because then you go.
How did I just spend three hourswatching guys like restore cars
that they bought on auction?
Like you're just like where didthe fucking evening go?

(08:34):
What did I do?
Uh, I'm glad you finallyupdated your pants.
Go.
Yeah, I'm glad you finallyupdated your background, sir.
Yes, he finally came in the.
The monkey popcorn bucketfinally came in nice.
Um, yeah, when we went tothunderbolt, like there were so
many fucking popcorn bucketseverywhere from all the
different, like just the regularmetal ones, not even like the

(08:56):
toy, like the yeah, not evenfancy ones, yeah, not even.
Just there was like threesinners ones.
I'm like, why do you need threedifferent sinners ones?
Like, come on, like I mean, themovie was great, but you don't
need a blue one and a red oneand the black one?
Like, come on, guys, I love mesome michael b jordan.
I don't need his popcorn bucket, I don't need three michael b
jordan popcorn buckets.

(09:17):
Um, but yeah, it was kind ofcrazy, like how, like, they put
you in the queue.
Now, like at regal, you have tolike go through a queue because
they don't.
You don't just walk up to aconcession stand, you have to go
and wait for them to like.
Oh, you know, I noticed thatwhat did we go see?
Something that was a while ago.
We don't usually go to Regal,but we were this time and I'm

(09:39):
like they're making me Walks tothe damn shopping mall up in
this bitch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, causethen everything.
But they have like old ass shittoo.
They still had brave new worldstuff.
I mean, I was like they gotlike fun codes that are from
like a year ago.
I'm like, why still?
Why are they still got littlemermaid stuff up in here?
What's going on?
Like, yeah, shit, not the Moana2.
Probably maybe Moana 2.

(09:59):
But yeah, they had, they stillhad shit from like Gladiator 2.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like it'sa little weird, but all right.
Well, I watched a YouTube.
Somebody wants a Roman Coliseum.
I watched a Disney videoyesterday and the guy was
walking around to just see whatwas left over from May, the 4th,

(10:20):
fourth, dude, I think I watchedthat one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,like hyper, hyper, something
hyper spacing or hyper, and he'slike, oh, you couldn't make it
here yesterday, let's see, uh,what's still left.
And he was asking buddy aboutthe, the popcorn buckets and
shit.
Yeah, they had the majority ofthem.
Yeah, they did.
He didn't talk about the javasipper, but they still had the

(10:42):
501st helmet and they still hadthe death star.
The death star was everywhere.
Yeah, yeah, I mean it lookedlike most of the stuff was still
there, like it didn't look likea bunch.
Yeah, they saw the lightsaber,saw lightsabers.
Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, theystill had that.
He went to savvies like, yeah,no, we still got it.
Yeah, he went to the new onethey did.
They didn't have the droid, uh,the mouse droid popcorn, but

(11:05):
bucket was the one thing.
I think he said they hecouldn't.
It's not a popcorn bucket, dude, it is a remote controlled to
scale.
Oh, yeah, one one scale.
He's only a hundred dollars.
Wow, I'm gonna buy that bitchnext time.
I see it.
Well.
And but I think he was at disneyworld because he was going to
some shops that weren't atdisneyland.
Yeah, he started a tattooingtrader.
I was going to some shops thatweren't at Disneyland.

(11:25):
Yeah, he started a TatooineTrader.
I'm like what the fuck is that?
That sounds like some DisneyWorld shit.
Well, because he didn't say I'mgoing to Disney World and they
didn't have him driving in, he'sjust like I'm here.
He's like I'm here, tatooineTraders.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like, sir, I mean it was a good video.

(11:46):
But yeah, dude, when we saw themouse droid on the 4th, that box
is fucking huge.
Yeah, I'm like no, that's gotto be like $300.
I didn't even bother looking.
My big one was curious about it.
She's like it's only $100.
I'm like, no, not now, becauseyou know it's May the 4th.
I just bought a $350 Star Toursspeeder.

(12:09):
I'm using my May allowances.
It's dwindling.
Yeah, we had a good laugh inour chat Because somebody said
they bought something, but itwas fine, because it was their
May money and not June Exactly.
And I go oh shit, my podcastbuddies talk about that all the
time.
They're like the card, the card, the statement, is cut off.

(12:30):
I'm good, this is all may now,but all my, all, my uh, all my
uh allowances have reset exactly.
But um, but no.
So then I watched a video on itand I'm like, oh, that's kind
of cool.
And I'm like, what does it go?
And it does.
And then that little scream itgives when chewbacca yells at it
.
It does that too.

(12:51):
I'm like sold we.
And it's a usb rechargeable too.
Oh, nice, even better.
So you don't even have to putbutters, butters.
Yeah, you don't got to putbutter in it.
You can just yeah, I don't haveto butter it up at all plug
that shit into the wall raw.
You gotta grease it up beforeyou can charge it.

(13:11):
Um, yeah.
So that video was interesting.
It looks like a lot of the stufffrom the fourth besides, like
the, he didn't talk about thepins and stuff, so I think it
was mostly.
He was mostly just a merch guy.
It seems like.
Yeah, yeah, like the shirts andthe ad at seemed pretty cool.
Uh, it did right like I wasn'teven interested until he showed
it a couple times.
I'm like that's kind of badass.
Well, I mean you get like 12mini.

(13:31):
I mean I haven't beeninterested in that.
We haven't talked about thatline of, uh, figure, the, the,
that toy line at all, the action, micro galaxy or something,
something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, butthat did by the ghost from that
line.
Yeah, the ad at looks prettycool.
Um, yeah, and it came with like12 characters, like 12 little
minifigs too.

(13:52):
So, yeah, I don't know if theystill have it on the disney
store, um, but yeah, so I thinkhe did a good job of like going
through and talking about kindof the everything, I mean pins.
The problem with talking aboutpins, even in videos like that,
is like it's so hit and missbecause you can go to one store
and they'd be like oh, no, sorry, we're out.
Well, he went to like sevenstores.

(14:12):
So like I'm not going to walkup everyone with the video and
be like you got these pins, likeI'm sure they still have it.
Yeah, right, I mean it lookedlike they had a ton of them At
Disney World.
Yeah, but they're online Shop.
You know they be sellingdifferent shit.

(14:34):
We went yesterday to go pick outOur outdoor kitchen oh, nice,
grill and sink and all that shit.
Yeah, because we're gettingclose.
Hell, yeah, let's do it.
So, yeah, I mean, I thinkthat's a totally uh realistic
thing is for lou and I to headdown to watch the steelers and
vikings at your house, likecirca some shit, or yeah, we

(14:56):
knew it in the backyard.
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing,like, if we're gonna come down
to, like just hang out for theweekend, like, yeah, I mean, why
not just sit around outside?
Yeah, I mean, you'll have thetv and you'll have whatever.
I mean, I don't know, you havecocks or whatever, but I'll
probably have a sunday ticket sowe'll be able to watch it
regardless.
Yeah, exactly, because I'm afucking sucker and I'm okay with

(15:17):
paying 350 bucks.
I'm not okay with paying 350bucks for it, but you know, but
you do it anyways, begrudgingly.
Yeah, well, you know what?
I'll be honest, like a lot ofit just depends on how many
games are going to be, uh, likemonday or thursday night games
or like special games.
Because if, if I mean, you'retalking a 17 game season, um,

(15:38):
like if four or five of thosegames are going to be on, you
know, christmas day and, uh,thursday night and a monday
night game, and then you'retraveling.
So, like they were saying, theschedule I think gets released
next week, yeah, that soundsabout right.
Um, they were saying thevikings might actually go back
to back with the internationalgames because they play the

(16:00):
browns at at the browns and thenthey play the steelers at the
steelers and they've alreadysaid that the home games for the
Steelers are going to be likeweeks four and five.
So the shitty part is theVikings are going to go.
If it pans out as the reportsare saying, the Vikings are
going to go international fortwo weeks and then have like a
week six by, which fucking sucks.

(16:21):
Like having a week by bullshit,right, especially with the
length of the season now, like,so that would really suck, but
it would be like that would betwo more games that I'm going to
just watch.
Like I don't, I don't have towatch them, they'll be on NFL
network, so I'm not going tohave to, um, watch them.
You don't have to have sundayticket for him.

(16:52):
So you just go like, okay, I'mcounting down like, at what?
At what amount does it make itreasonable?
To when is my 350 worth it?
Right, exactly.
So, like last year, the mocknessmonster, I think the vikings
had a monday night game and likea thursday night game and that
was it.
And I was like, oh, okay, likeI'm still getting 15 games of
time, right, but hopefully theydon't raise the price.
But who knows, they're fuckinggreedy.
But I'll buy it right awaybecause they give you like 100

(17:13):
bucks off if you pre-order it.
So I'm guessing after theschedule they'll start harassing
me with emails and stuff saying, hey, the schedule's out.
I don't know.
I mean, I think you guys areactually going to be decent this
year.
So you know, it seems like it,like on paper.
You know we got a decentquarterback.

(17:36):
The new kids we drafted seemedall right.
So we'll see.
You guys have, uh, gino, who's?
Yeah, we got Gino, yeah, yougot Gino.
I mean, gino's not going toblow the doors off anything, but
he's going to manage your gameright, exactly, and he's a big
upgrade over whatever the fuckyou had last year.
Oh, yeah for sure.
Did you guys draft aquarterback?

(17:58):
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
No, yeah, I don't think so.
No, uh, yeah, I don't think so.
So, uh, yeah, it'll be fun,we'll have to see.
It'll be fun, fun times.
So, uh, well, with without loubeing here, I mean I guess we
could do.
We want to talk a little bitmore about when we used to hang

(18:19):
out and what we would do, andyou know we can.
So I mean, it came up last weeka little bit with the, the
wrestling.
Yeah, um, I don't know that Iwas watching a lot until, um, we
started hanging out.
At that time I don't think Iwas watching a lot.
Um, my stepbrother, I think,was watching it a little bit.

(18:41):
Well, your stepbrother had hiswhole.
Your stepbrother would had likea whole fucking federation and
a hundred figures, especiallyafter we were into it more.
Yeah, yeah, like he had likeshit written down in a notepad
that he was like doing like asmackdown in a raw, like every
week in his room and that was,yeah, that got a little weird,

(19:02):
but you know a little bit.
But you know what I mean.
We're 40 year old guys by starwars toys still.
So fair, I'm not.
Yeah, I guess I can't judge,but uh, but yeah, I mean, what
was?
Did you have any?
Were you a wrestling personbefore we hung out?
Ever like, yes, when I was akid, I used to watch it saturday
mornings or whatever the fuckit was.

(19:23):
I would watch it with my dad,okay.
So I think that's why later on,he was okay with buying us the
pay-per-view.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he hasmoney.
He's like yep, you know, weused to do this when you were a
kid.
So, but yeah, no, like Lou wassaying Hulk Hogan, very fucked

(19:46):
up, ucw.
So that's just how we were inthe 90s.
You had your, your thing.
Yeah, fuck the other guy.
Yeah, marvel or dc, you knowstar wars, star trek, like it
was weird.
It was a weird thing where Ithink, if you got into ufc, you
were like super into ufc, but ifyou got into wrestling, or, but
you couldn't get into wrestlingbecause you're like, oh, this
is fake, blah, blah, blah.
And then, um, what's it?
Right?
But then if you got like, ifyou got into wrestling, like UFC

(20:10):
just was like it wasn't, likethere wasn't a lot of like the
pomp and circumstance that comeswith watching wrestling.
You didn't really get that.
It was just like, oh, two guyswho were going to fight each
other, but there was no, likeyou wanted a story or you wanted
a reason for them to fight,right, and because I would.

(20:30):
I mean later, when I moved backto Oregon, I went to a couple
like UFC pay-per-view partythings, right, and I mean like,
why are these guys fighting?
Yeah, I need justification.
Did he fuck his wife?
Who's the manager?
What's going on?
Is that?
Well, the ring girl is just aring girl, she's not a manager.

(20:51):
One of the two guys, what'sgoing on?
She's not involved in this atall.
Yeah, when does the when doesthe belt get thrown into the
ring for somebody to get hit?
Are there ladders?
Yeah, but then, yeah, same herelike I think a demolition
ultimate Warrior, that window oftime, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bushwhackers and Road Warriors,all that shit.
Young John Michael In the 80s,like OG Hulk Hogan, the Rockers

(21:15):
Marty Jannetty, roddy Roddy,piper, yep, you know I was into
all that and my dad's like youknow, this is fake, right, I'm
like, for I was in all that andmy dad's like you know, this is
fake, right, I'm like for onesir lies and he's like, and the
guy doing the announcing rightthere, vince, he owns it.
I'm like, sir, yes, I am onlyeight years old, I am not stupid

(21:35):
.
Why would the guy that owns thecompany be down there doing
that bitch ass job with the tailgetting broken in front of him?
So I apologize, father, I didnot know everything when I was
eight.
It's Mother's Day, but I'msorry, dad, I'm trying to
remember what got us on thewrestling tip to begin with.

(21:56):
But sorry, you were going to sayI have no idea, I have no idea,
but I would keep up with ithere and there.
I think that, gosh, when wewere in North Carolina, we would
stay up to watch Raw because wewere East Coast, so it was on
later.
Yeah, so sometimes we wouldstay up on Mondays to watch Raw.
We weren't as into it, thoughAt that point I think I had

(22:18):
shifted my interest more intothe video games and stuff, less
TV.
But I do remember staying uplate to watch Raw once in a
while.
But, yeah, us hanging, hangingout.
I don't know why we startedwatching it.
I don't know if we were justbored on or we just happened to
be like hanging out at the houseone day and it was like oh, the

(22:41):
pay-per-view's on, or like yourdad was like I'm getting the
pay-per-view and we're like okay, and then like I don't know
what triggered that at all, butthen like stone cold and the
rock and all that, like you know, then we're that shit is still
hilarious, and then we're, andthen we're going to fucking two
events in one, in one weekbecause we're going to rock and
smack down in the exact sameseats Like uh, I don't know, I

(23:07):
mean, it's soap operas for dudes, that's.
You have to look at it that way.
Yeah, they are really.
They are really fighting right,like they're not trying to hurt
each other.
But there is a athletic aspectto this.
They're not just actors outthere.
There's a physicality to it,right, like it's.
In some regards it's.
I would say you could say thatit's almost harder than just

(23:29):
straight fighting, because youdon't want to actually injure
the other person.
So the stuff that you're doing,you have to make it look
reasonably real.
But then you also don't want to.
If you're going to do amoonsault on a guy, you don't
actually want to drive yourknees into his chest.
You know that type of thingBecause you've got to fight him
again on Thursday.
Yeah, do a moonsault on a guyyou don't actually want to drive
your knees into his chest, youknow, like that type of thing.

(23:50):
Yeah, because you got to fighthim again on thursday, yeah, and
probably two times in betweenthere at house shows, you know,
yeah.
But yeah, yeah, I mean Iremember there were, I mean,
between that and wrestlemania2000, I mean we spent every
month.
It was like, okay, well, sunday,we're hanging out and we'd get
food and we'd go back to thehouse and we'd hang out and the

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pay-per-view would be on.
I mean, I think that was likewhen Brock Lesnar first came on
scene Yep, I remember when hecame out, the Hardy Boys Yep,
the Dudley Boys, which wefashioned, all of our wrestling
tag teams after, yep, I think weused the 3D as our finishing
move for yep, we sure did forlike years, yeah, for the entire

(24:34):
time.
All the versions.
Yeah, it started with uh,wrestlemania on, uh nintendo 64
all the way through uh, ps2,xbox yeah, one of the first
couple iterations on your house,or something like that, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
But we spent weeks looking forwrestlemania 2000 because it was
sold out everywhere.
Do you remember?
We used to drive, I think I, Ithink I found it some ghetto ass

(24:57):
.
Uh little mom and pop shop orsome shit dude, yeah.
But I mean, we spent out daysdriving around going to all the
best but, like we were our likecircle of what we were searching
Was like All the best buysbasically in LA, like all south
In southeast LA, was all thestuff that we would look for All

(25:18):
the way in Orange County andeverything, and it was like,
sorry, sold out.
Yeah, we finally got like hells.
Yes, look at the graphics onthis, they're amazing.
And then we spent an hourcreating our tag team.
Yep, we wrote in on.
Was that the?
That wasn't the one, I think itwas.
Later on, when we could ridethe Undertaker's bikes and I had

(25:39):
two bikes, yeah, I think thatwas Smackdown on the PlayStation
.
I think, yeah, yeah, that'swhen they started doing more of
the actual video entrances andstuff.
But yeah, we basically justripped off the Deadly Boys.
Yeah, we did.
And then I think my finisher wasTriple H's finisher, the

(25:59):
Pedigree, yeah, and I probablyjust stole the Stunner,
something simple like that.
Or Kane you were super intoKane then too.
Oh, yeah, I was into Kane, so Ithink it into the choke.
I probably did the choke,you're right, you're right, I
don't know why I was into cane,especially looking back now and
going where, looking at what heis, uh, what, where he is and

(26:20):
mentally and uh, position wise,just going like, wow, that was a
choice.
I guess when you're just aburned you know, burned brother
of the undertaker, you don'thave to, you don't talk a lot
about politics, so no, but wewere also like it just all
bubbles up in you.
Yeah, I was watching.
I mean, I see some of the stuffnow, the YouTube videos, where

(26:41):
they talk about like the topfive messed up things in
wrestling from the nineties andI, or two nineties, slash early,
two thousands from the 90s andI, or to 90s, early 2000s, and
I'm just like man, we, uh, wecould have really been messed up
, like we could have really likeif yeah, because some of those
storylines like yeah, like you,I mean again, you, you, you, you

(27:02):
spend this time and you go, ohmy gosh, how did this generation
get to this point?
And how are?
How come guys feel so insecureand are so like blah, blah, blah
and you go.
Well, you look at like themedia that we consumed.
We had the man show, we hadwrestling, we had, you know, we
had all of these things that wedid hyper masculine, right, but
also we didn't know how toprocess them, right, like I mean

(27:22):
, we're all, we're all between18 and 25.
At that point where, like,you're really figuring out who
you are and what you do and orwhat you're gonna do, and the
all of that presentation wasthat girls were objects and
girls, you know, like girls weresubservient and all of that
kind of stuff.
And you know, unless you hadlike a decent upbringing or at

(27:44):
least a mildly healthyupbringing, like you know.
But again, I mean, you don'tview women like that in general
and I don't feel like, no, noeither, but a lot of people, a
lot of guys, funny, yeah, buteven then, like you don't
actually believe it right, likeit being funny.
It being funny is one thing,but I slap her on the butt and

(28:05):
say go make me a sandwich.
I don't actually expect thesandwich, right, and you, but
you do expect her to turn aroundand either punch you in the
shoulder or slap you back,exactly, right, yeah, yeah, um,
but uh, yeah, like it's.
It's funny to me because peopleare like how did we get there?
And you go well, look at allthe media we had to consume back
then, like it was all so hyper,like hyper I don't know what

(28:30):
the word is like hyper, I don'twant to say like hyper,
sexualized, because it waswhatever it was.
Always that was like the x,right, everything had to have an
x, everything was extreme.
But yeah, I mean thinking backon wrestling wow, yeah, we could
have both been really fucked upby that, but somehow we made it
through without.
You know, I think we latched onto.
We didn't really latch on tothose characters though.

(28:51):
Hey look, we loved, uh, thegodfather and his ho train
because that shit was funny ashell, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But we were like hells, yeah,come give me a bunch of hoes, I
need a ho train.
I mean valvinas.
And we were into the, thedeadly boys and dx and all that
shit.
We were in like Jericho, therock, stone cold.
We were into the funny guys.

(29:12):
We weren't, you know, liketripping on the, the dudes that
were like that, like, yes, itwas funny watching Val Venus do
his little porn dance and allthat shit.
But we weren't like, oh, yeah,I want to be that's who I want
to be, val Venus, that's who Iwant to be val venus, it was.

(29:32):
We want to be jericho.
Yeah, the day he showed up andand that was the thing, because
we only, we were only wwf guys,we weren't wcw guys at all.
So when like jericho shows up,we have like no idea.
And all of a sudden he justshows up and we're like, oh, my
god, who's this guy?
Right, like the countdown andall of that kind of stuff.
Um, but yeah, I mean, I thinkeven you know when we would go

(29:53):
to the, the broad and SmackDown,and then it would be like, oh
shit, triple H is back.
I think we, one of the bras wewent to, like it was maybe after
, uh, wrestlemania or whateverand like triple H came back from
injury for the 12th through13th time.
Like hearing age came back frominjury for the 12th through
13th time.
Like hearing that music.
Yeah, the first, like when youhadn't heard it in person before

(30:14):
, was always like right andkane's fire like the pyro.
When you're on the oppositeside of the arena I'm still
regrowing my eyebrows.
Yeah, exactly like it's just,but but no, I mean it was a lot
of fun live like.
Even as a kid I never thought Iwould do that shit.
Honestly it's, it's stuff yousee on tv, right like you're
watching double dare and shit,and they're like, oh, we filmed

(30:36):
this at universal studios inflorida.
You're like that'd be cool togo there someday.
I mean I never will.
But, um, it's just strange that, like as a kid, you're like,
nope, that shit will neverhappen.
But now I've been to universalstudios, I've been to live
wrestling and football andhockey and football.
We just got back from fuckingjapan.
I mean, that stuff I neverthought would happen when I was

(30:58):
a kid.
I wish the timing would havebeen better, because I think it
would have been cool to go towrestlemania.
But you know, agreed, that shitwas expensive as fuck.
Though, yeah, even for your uh,first refusal ticket, we just
get dibs on it.
Oh, we still have to pay allthat.
We just get to pay it first.
So the right of first refusaldoesn't necessarily give you a
discount, it just gives you.

(31:19):
No, it just means I get itfirst, okay, so, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah what I thought itwhen and if it comes back, I
would very, uh, stronglyconsider it, because it's just
like, even though I'm not superinto it I think I watched last
year's a little bit when we weretalking about it.
We're texting about it.

(31:41):
Um, it's still fuckingwrestlemania, right?
Yeah, I mean it's the spectacle, right, it's the granddaddy of
all sports entertainment.
It's like, you know, I was in afootball when I was a kid, you
know.
Whatever, I'm not into it now,but I got to the fucking super
bowl.
It's just one of those thingsthat it was your jam at one time
and there's still a part of youthat wants to do that.

(32:03):
Right, because you never got toas a kid.
Like exactly, would we go to raw?
Like, if rod smackdown we'recoming back to, I mean, if I
happen to be in vegas, maybe,yeah, but yeah, I wouldn't say
no, yeah, but it's also not.
I have no idea what's going on.
Yeah, I would also have codyrhodes.
Was that just cody fucks?
Cody rhodes?
Yeah, I remember dustin rhodes,I rememberust who is this?

(32:28):
But yeah, like, I think youknow, like, again, it's one of
those like you, don't?
You only have one opportunityto go see it?
Right, really, what it boilsdown to.
So, yeah, I would totally go.
Yeah, I mean, obviously we'rein Japan, so Japan or
WrestleMania, I'm taking japan.

(32:48):
Yeah, 100, yeah, but, um, butyeah, I would go.
One of the guys at work went andhe had a blast like he's still
kind of into it though, um, butI don't know.
It looks fun again, like eventhe the fan experience thing
that we did.
We didn't go to wrestlemania2000, yeah, but we did the

(33:09):
FanFest before, just like wenever went to the Super Bowl but
we did the FanFest before andwe saw Lita and we saw Trish
Shadis and we saw the car thatStone Cold filled with concrete,
yeah, and I got to touch headand then Al Snow almost killed
me.
Yeah, I still have not washedthis hand.

(33:31):
Yes, I know it still smellslike Al Snow.
It still smells like a jobsquad, a hand job squad.
I mean I kind of it pops up inmy YouTube feeds every once in a
while like the highlights, so Idon't actually watch the shows,
but I'll watch the 30 or 45seconds that they post just to

(33:55):
kind of keep in touch.
I mean I do know who CodyRhodes is.
I have a general idea of thestoryline, yeah.
But yeah, I mean now that WCWhas kind of been replaced by
Proxy, by AEW, but I mean I payattention to AEW a little bit
because they have a couple guyslike MJF and stuff who still are

(34:16):
.
I consider them almostthrowbacks, right.
Right, because they're guysthat you would be like.
Okay, when you can findsomebody who you're like, okay,
this guy could fit into anygeneration, any wrestling
generation, right, like MJF.

(34:36):
For me, mjf is definitely oneof those guys.
He knows how to work the crowdand have a good match with
anybody that he can.
You could put him back in the80s and he would be the same,
right, he could still sellwhatever character he was
portraying.
I don't know if that's the caseanymore.
I mean, john Cena turned heel,which is weird.

(34:58):
That was weird, yeah, but Imean that whole thing was very.
I mean I kind of was watchingthat because the Rock came back,
right, he was doing some stuffand then he just disappeared and
like, but he was, was like theone that made john cena turn
heel, and then he disappearedand like, john cena's just there
, like, oh, you guys all say Isuck and don't appreciate me

(35:18):
anymore and you're just kind oflike, but wait, like, why did
you do that for the rock?
Then, like, it's like rakishi,I did it for the Rock Again.
Soap operas for dudes.
That shit never makes sense,never, nope.
How is the Undertaker dead?
How did the Undertaker wrestlefrom when we were kids until

(35:41):
like four or five years ago, andthen he disappeared and then he
came back as a motorcycleriding, bandana wearing, and now
he's just a dude that rides,he's a biker dude.
He's not even dead anymore.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of thatshit was very unbelievable,
especially when they get to likethe supernatural stuff.
But but we fucking go with it,right, because it was funny, the

(36:03):
fights were entertaining.
Somebody's getting their faceput in rakishi's butt yeah, well
again.
But I mean we would watch.
I mean I'm sure we watched thefirst TLC match together, yeah,
and then all of those that cameup after that, I mean Edge and
Christian, the Dudley boys, allthose guys, yeah, cheering them
on until they bleed.
Yeah, my obsession with MollyHolly, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

(36:29):
Them boots.
We were both hung up on Lita forquite a while, even today.
She's not too shabby.
She's kept in good shape.
Yeah, she has.
Who do I see?
A lot, I think I follow StaceyKeebler on Insta.
She still looks good.
Miss Hancock, that was her WCWname.

(36:50):
Follow stacy keibler on uhinsta.
She still looks good.
Yeah, miss hancock, that was adope, that was her wcw name, not
wink, wink, nudge, nudge, no,um, but we uh, yeah, no, I mean
those are some good times, itwas fun.
Yeah, it was a nice, aside fromstar wars.
Yeah, I mean we've had quite afew wrestling figures like, yeah

(37:14):
, I don't know if I still haveany, I don't think we all give
them to my stepbrother.
Yeah, I think.
No, we're done with them, bro.
Yeah, yeah, we're over it.
Here you go, have fun makingyour federation.
Here's our uh, entrance dude.
When they had the, the littlemetal things on their feet, you
put them on the entrance thingand it plays their music.
That was cool.
We were like, oh, they're usingthe General Giant in their real
3D scanning their faces.

(37:35):
They look so good.
Yeah, they look way better thanthey did before.
But I mean the chairs and thetable like how we would just pop
because they'd be like, oh,they put a trash can in as an
accessory.
Yeah, they put a trash can inas an accessory.
Yeah, we can finally recreatethis match.
Yeah, um, but yeah, I mean itwas a nice, it was a nicer

(37:57):
version from star Wars, cause Imean that was the majority of
the stuff that we that.
That we that, that we shared.
You know, um, and I've had thisconversation with Lou, because
he's got people that only hithim up at celebration, like, hey
, I need star wars stuff, I needstar wars stuff.
I'm like, and that's all theyever talk about is star wars.

(38:19):
I'm like how can you be friendswith someone if that's the one
thing you have in common?
Right, like we wouldn't befriends, fucking, almost 30
years later, if all we had wasstar wars.
Right, I mean you have to havemore than just one thing in
common, yeah, but I mean we, Imean we the.

(38:40):
The nice thing about ourrelationship was that it like
evolved, because it started outfrom like you guys should hang
out because you both like StarWars, right To when we started
hanging out all the time.
It became about more than that.
It became about music, itbecame about wrestling, it
became about just stuff going onin life and I think, since both

(39:03):
of us were kind of in aposition where we didn't have a
ton of other friends and ourfamilies were kind of there but,
you know, doing their own thing, it was emo, gen x kids and
we're just like, yeah, I hiteverybody.
Yeah, but this guy he's allright.
But yeah, I mean that was whatit really boiled down to is like
we were just kind of, I thinkwe, we, we star wars was kind of

(39:26):
the foundation of ourrelationship, but we were able
to build, you know, a prettydecent house around it after,
exactly.
You know, yeah, um, and evenlike when we lost, when we would
lose touch for windows of time,like, yeah, it didn't you know,
we'd start talking and it wouldbe just like we talked.
You know, the last weekend, youknow there was never a, there
was never a time where it waslike who is this guy?

(39:48):
It was like uncomfortable orlike, oh, hey, you remember me?
Yeah, I used to live togetherand hang out sometimes, yeah,
once in a while, um, but yeah, Imean, yeah, you're not friends
with somebody for 30 years andnot not have more in common.
You know, I mean we've had some.
I mean we've had some heavyconversations over time.

(40:09):
Oh, yeah, for sure, you know,depending Like we've honestly
grown up together.
Yeah, right, I mean we wereboth pretty much teenagers when
we met.
Right now we're old, yeah, well,because when we met, you were
already working at the warehouse.
You already had your warehousejob because you'd been there

(40:31):
forever since you'd met stacy oryour other, your significant
other, right, because you, sinceI graduated high school, yeah,
so 98, I'd been there about ayear probably.
Yeah, but I mean, you were, youwere like dialed in, like
because I, when I came and wouldyou know, help out, like you
were always, yeah, super dialedin, um, but yeah, I mean, when

(40:55):
they were like, oh, you guysshould hang out, and like I was
working at petco, I think at thetime, so I was working
graveyards, yeah, um, but Iremember, uh, she was bringing
me home one night.
She's like, oh, I gotta go pickup duke.
I'm like, okay, yeah, that wasuh, yeah, that was the.
Those were the days, right, ohlord.

(41:16):
But speaking of which, sheneeds five thousand dollars to
buy a car because hertransmission went out.
Too bad.
I'm.
I don't understand why you guyshaven't changed your numbers.
I can't change it for oneperson.
Yes, maybe, yes, yes, you can.
I think you are proving that,yes, you can.
Well, I thought she had stoppedreaching out to you.

(41:37):
So we're talking about my exright now.
I thought, after she had kindof stopped, like like your, uh,
your wife had blocked her andthat type of thing like she does
, like uh, voips or some shitlike goes hurt.
So just different phone numbers, just call and they're dumb ass
.
These voicemails dodged abullet there.
My friend dodged a bullet there.

(41:59):
It was like neo dodging like 30bullets.
Yeah, no shit.
Well, I just thought it washilarious, like I think it was
one of the first.
So after we broke up and I movedback up or I'd like I mean I
stayed there for quite a fewyears.
After, when you guys moved tovegas, it would have been oh

(42:20):
five, we saw that grandma's.
Then, I mean, I was back andforth with grandma's, but I'm
trying to figure out when wekind of lost touch and I think
it was when you guys moved tovegas, probably for a little bit
, and then, like we circled backlike a year or two later to
just kind of like touch base,because that's what we would do
is during that time, it'sprobably every six to eight
months, we'd be like what's up,bro?
Because back then, kids, youhad to pay for text messages.

(42:42):
Yeah, yeah, it was, or you werelimited.
You only got like 200.
Um, but I think the one of thefirst stories you told me was
that she was dating like youwere like, oh, you remember your
ex.
And I went, yes, and you werelike, oh, she's dating a guy who
collects hot wheels.
And we just thought that wasthe most hilarious shit ever,

(43:04):
because we used to fucking clownthe hot wheels guys every time
we would go and hang out and gotoy hunting because those guys
were dicks, all those yeah, theywere.
They were fucking douchebags.
And then when they didn't gethot toys, they stole our star
wars toys.
Yeah, yeah, they go, they'd runin and go through all their.
They'd look at, they'd lookreal quick to see if the hot
wheels had been refreshed and ifthey hadn't, then they would

(43:25):
start going to other places toget toys to flip.
And uh, but, yeah, those guyswere assholes, yeah, they were.
So that was side tangent.
That was hilarious when you werelike she's dating a guy that I
remember that conversation.
So, so clearly she's dating aguy who collects hot wheels.
And I was like what?
And we're like, yeah, downgrade, downgrade, yeah, major
downgrade.
So clearly she's dating a guywho collects Hot Wheels.

(43:46):
And I was like what?
And we're like, yeah, downgrade, downgrade, yeah, major
downgrade From Star Wars Geek.
But yeah, and now look at us.
We're going to fucking Japantogether, right, I don't think
we would have had thisconversation in 99.
No, it was surprising enough.
We even made it to Indianatogether for free, yeah, but I

(44:11):
mean, at least that was inAmerica.
International travel goodfucking luck.
20 year old me wouldn't knowhow to get a passport.
Yeah, no shit, don't you haveto go to the post office for
that or something.
Maybe is there a post officefor that or something.
Maybe Is there a special officefor it.
What's this?
Real ID?
What are you talking about?
Real ID, it's 1999.

(44:32):
But yeah, it's pretty.
I mean, again, when you guys hadbeen dating for like a year or
something, when I met, when Igot involved, right, like it was
maybe a year, maybe a year anda half, 97-ish year and a half,
yeah, but yeah, I still rememberwhen I got invited to Christmas

(44:54):
by Stacy's or your girl, yourwife's parents, and that was
really awkward Because my exwasn't there, but it was still
awkward, right, because we werelike expecting.
It was still awkward rightbecause we were like expecting
her to show up, because we werelike, wait, what's right?
Your, your wife's parents, whyare they inviting me over?
Oh, we really liked you did you?
Because you never really gaveme the impression that you did

(45:16):
like, uh, look, it was her.
Yeah, even my wife has been likeyou know what duke's all right,
not, we're not around her.
She's like maybe it was her thewhole time and it wasn't Duke.
Maybe Duke doesn't suck as muchas I thought, and that's really
saying something, because shethinks everybody fucking sucks.
She does.

(45:39):
She's texting me now about howour little one sucks.
You're like wait, you made thatright.
This is on your fault.
You contributed to thishappening.
By the way, do you know all theshit that she's been through?
I don't know if you were aroundfor all of it, but she's seen

(45:59):
some shit, more shit than any ofus have.
Like, our life has not beeneasy, right, well, now her tummy
hurts and she wants to sleep onthe couch.
Okay, well, have fun sleepingon the couch.
She just wants to be on thecouch so when you come back in
the house she can be like oh,daddy's here, come tuck me.

(46:24):
Yeah, I was trying to think ifthere was any like other good
stories.
I mean, we made like stupiddecisions when we would drive
around, like when we wentthrough like Compton Because we
thought we'd be cool.
Right, because we both likerapped music at the time we're
like, hey, let's go to Greenleaf, see if their fucking heads are
cut off.
Like, oh, it's going to beouraf.

(46:45):
See if their fucking heads arecut off.
They're like, oh, it's going tobe our heads.
Hey, it's the Compton car wash.
Nope, don't slow down.
Did we lock the doors?
Yes, the doors are locked.
They were not fucking around.
No, but in all the music videoswe saw, everybody was on the
street having a party.
What's going on?
Where's the barbecue?

(47:11):
Yeah, exactly, people wheelingout barbecues and shit.
Uh, oh, we were going to be thecool white guys.
Yeah, pre-slim shady.
Yeah, we're proto m&m.
Uh, but, yeah, I mean, yeah,good times, I mean we're.
I mean the.
The funny part is like thosetypes of things I couldn't
imagine like us doing now.
No, god, no, you know, like ifI moved to vegas or you moved up

(47:34):
here, like if we lived in thesame city, like I couldn't
imagine like going to your house, like early sunday morning for
us to just drive around and lookfor toys.
I mean, again, the world haschanged, right, right, is it the
same?
But like, right, yeah, I look,I mean, like back then I think
it was nice to kind of have aroutine and have a, but today I

(47:56):
would be like, nah, son, I'mgonna stay home.
Like, yeah, order that shitonline.
Yeah, I'm tired.
You want to split a case?
I'll buy a case.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I meanthat's what we've done a few
times.
Hey, indiana Jones Okay, well,you just got to buy this one
figure.
Okay, yeah, I think we did thatwith all three waves of the

(48:18):
Indiana Jones figures.
Right, yeah, yeah, I think wetook turns on the waves.
Yeah, yeah, I think we took, Ibrought you, I like put a box in
a bag and brought you like theones that, yeah, yeah, but I had
them like all packed with likea towel wrapped around them to
make sure the boxes, even thoughyou were just going to take
them out of the boxes anyway.
Exactly, yeah, but you neverknow.
Yeah, yeah, but I was a toyline.

(48:40):
That was super disappointingthat they didn't keep it going.
But, yeah, I mean you frozelike, okay, you did too.
We both froze.
I wonder where that's gonnashow up.
The ai is gonna have to fix itright.
Yeah, there was, there was, Ithink there was quite a few
figures that they could have, uh, filled in that they didn't.

(49:01):
Definitely a molar rom Molaramthey completely skimped out.
On Temple of Doom, they couldhave had the little boy because
we got short round.
They could have had the littleprince with the fucking monkey
brain bowl and the little indievoodoo doll Yep, they could have

(49:25):
done so much more, so much more.
It's always funny for me to hearthat stuff where they just go
like, oh, this line didn't dowell, well, you didn't fucking
promote it at all.
Uh-uh, I never saw anything onany of the websites or anything.
And I never saw anything onInstagram or any of that stuff.
Nope, if you wanted them, theywere there.

(49:48):
Well, like you were like, hey,there's an indiana jones line,
and like I had to go look for itand I was like this one.
And you're like, no, no, that'slike the vintage figure line,
which was a completely differentthing.
Like black series yeah, big ones, yeah, yeah, and they were
pretty reasonably priced too.
If I remember, they were onlylike yeah, they were horrible,
you bought a case.
It was only like $12 or $14,which isn't terrible, because I
think in the Black Series, theStar Wars ones are like $18 to

(50:10):
$20 now.
Right, yeah, they're pushing$20 now and they're going to go
up even more now because tariffsI know I was reading about
Funko.
They're like, yep, come Julyregular Funko's going to be $15.
I'm like, hmm, I'll catch you onthe sales, bro, but again,
funko's been hemorrhaging moneyfor a while and I'm guessing

(50:31):
that's why they're not coming toComic-Con, because they're
doing their own thing thatweekend before or something like
that.
Right, they're doing somethingat the Hollywood Funko, I think
I read.
So they're still doing likeFuncoville, but it won't be at
Comic-Con, right, I mean,they'll probably still have a
small booth or something.
I would imagine they would havesome representation at

(50:51):
Comic-Con, but it won't be.
It won't be the whole corner ofthe convention hall.
Yeah, that was pretty obscene.
I wouldn't be mad about it.
Yeah, the last couple of years,it's freaking ridiculous,
freaking ridiculous.
Yeah, I started tripping outwhen I got that email about the
badge and I was like, wait asecond, I didn't buy one.
Is this an auto-renew?
I'm sorry I don't got $350 forthat right now, but it all made

(51:18):
sense when you told me so I waslike, oh, okay, cool, we could
have put our names on them, butwe don't want to lose the early
pre-reg.
So we're like well, what if wedo that and then we can swap a
little easier.
Yeah, get in Wednesday nightfor sure.
Yeah, so we'll see.
Yeah, I might I mean never saynever, but worst case I'll come,

(51:42):
you know.
I mean you know there's Neversay never, but yeah, worst case
I'll come down for a longweekend.
And now at least I know that ifI want to, I can Like one day
or whatever.
But I also know for like theRoosevelt's and stuff, you guys
got me covered.
So, oh, yeah, yeah, that's adeal.
I need to get some more marvelones.
I realized when we went and sawthunderbolts, the only marvel

(52:04):
one I have is the the deadpoolwolverine.
I was like, oh, I, I mean Iwore that, and everybody was
like, oh, that's a cool shirt.
But I was still kind of like itwasn't quite mcu though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is, but itisn't.
Yeah, yeah, I have a couple.
I got the marvels, I have acouple marvel zombie ones and I
got the Sam Wilson CaptainAmerica, a full panel one.

(52:28):
I don't know if I have more thanthat.
I mean obviously the Deadpoolfrom, yeah, from Comic-Con.
I don't think I have a lot more, though Do I have?
I don't think I have more StarWars shirts than you, nope.
No, I don't think I'm in yourrealm for the Star Wars
Roosevelt yet.
No, I have a ridiculous amount.
Yeah, you sent a picture of yourcloset at some point, right?

(52:49):
Yeah, I have nine of them andyou're like hold my beer, that's
cute, I bet collecting I'm likethis month.
Yeah, you're like OGRoosevelt's guy.
I came to the game really late,but I mean they are really nice
.
I mean, if you can find printsthat you like, and so the
problem is that so many of themhave that chaotic print that

(53:09):
just drives luke crazy.
Yeah, he likes the ropers,though he likes getting his
cowboy on nice.
Yeah, yeah, and I mean that's,that's, but those are always
like they always have the stuffat the top, but they're always
like a solid color.
Yeah, instead of like, here's 8million headshots where he's
just like ah, my brain, his eyestarts twitching.
Yeah, he looks you directly inthe eye when you're wearing that

(53:32):
shirt.
Like, sometimes you don'talways make contact with people
when you're talking.
No, he's directly in your eyethe whole time.
Oh man, so is Lou watching?
Are you watching the Last of Us?
I have not started it yet.
Maybe after Andor Is it overyet?

(53:52):
Or soon?
No, I mean we're only fiveepisodes.
I think this week is episodefive, so you're only five
episodes behind.
Yeah, no, I'm like my morningsare weird lately.
So I'm still.
It's almost done, but the garageat the old house is almost done
, so so close.
It's supposed to cool down,though the stuff that I was

(54:14):
looking at was saying Like mid80s, I hope so.
When are you coming out?
Like Friday, friday throughSunday.
So it'll be like 84 on sunday,yeah, and 74 on sunday, it says,
and night.
I mean, it looks like even theevenings are going to be nice,
yeah, it's down to the 60s, andat night.

(54:35):
So, yeah, no, you'll be fine,you're.
You're staying at a hotel thistime, though, right, like, yeah,
camp edc or whatever the fuckit is Hotel EDC.
Yeah, did we talk about theprints, the Kinkade Gallery?
Oh, are we not really right?
No, not super, but I have it.

(54:55):
It was right here, right nextto me.
Nice, that's Lou, right?
No, this one is mine.
Lou got the same one, though.
Oh, okay, I don't know.
I looked at all those picturesbecause there was a lot of
options.
Dude, it was kind of crazy.
I'm sure you were a littleoverwhelmed when you walked in
there.
Yeah, I was like, oh, thatone's nice.
Oh, what about that one?

(55:18):
But, like, thomas Kinkade ismore just like now at this point
.
It's like an art style, right,like, because he doesn't it's a
studio, but he doesn't it's astudio.
It's a studio, but he doesn'tdo all the stuff.
It's a bunch of other peoplethat do his style of art, right,
yes, yeah, it's a studio.
I don't even know if he's stillalive.
Honestly, I would be surprised.
Thomas Kinkade, let's see.

(55:39):
Nope, nope, my man died in 2012.
But, yeah, I mean like, I'msure his family, but I mean they
use.
He was famous for doing likepictures of buildings and like
landscapes and shit like that.
So when you were like, hey,they have like they have like
star wars art here, and I waslike what?
And then you sent like 10pictures and I was like what the

(55:59):
fuck is all this like?
Yeah, like the chewbacca one.
I looked at that and I was like, wait, he's on Hoff and he's
not covered in snow.
Like that's some bullshit,right, like that's how much of a
nerd I am.
I'm like, oh, chewbacca, ohshit, he's not covered in snow,
fuck that.
Nope, I like white Chewb, puthim on Tatooine and then we can

(56:27):
talk.
But if you're going to give himup, you're going to put him on
Hoff and just have him standingthere Like he's afraid of the
trash compactor.
Nasa yeah, no, they actuallyhave them online too.
Oh, yeah.
So I looked later.
I was like, oh, I wonder ifthey have it on there.
But yeah, and they do.
It's all very like the the, theones with the lightsabers on
them.
They paint them in such a wayit looks like they're actually
lit up.
It's amazing how they paintedthem.

(56:49):
Nice, so that Vader is fromEmpire Strikes Back.
I'm guessing Obi-Wan, the oneyou bought.
Yeah, so it was his castle,exactly, yeah, I got the shuttle
Tadirium right, exactly, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, I got the
Shadal Teyderium right, yes, theinterior.

(57:10):
I thought I mean it wasChewbacca and I was like, okay,
exactly, front and center, yeah,but I mean it's also all of
them right, exactly.
I don't know if that'll go upin my living room.
I might have to find somewhereelse to put it because the size
is gonna be like it's gonna beweird, because I think it's a

(57:30):
lot smaller than the otherprints that I have.
Likely that's a pretty goodsize.
Yeah, the vader is titledobi-wan kenobi.
Darkness has arrived.
So, yeah, hopefully, mine's,hopefully mine's named fly
casual.
Uh, it is called strike team.
Yes, strike team should beendor strike team.
If they were.
I believe in the movie it's theendor strike.
It is called Strike Team.
Yes, strike Team.
It should be Endor Strike Team.

(57:50):
I believe in the movie it's theEndor Strike Team.
Right, right, nerds, fuckingThomas Kinkade, what a prick,
right.
So was your older one excitedabout the studio and everything?
It's not really.
Kinkade is a studio, it's acompany.
Now, yeah, yeah, yeah, butthey're in that same area, right
, they're in that same um, it'san art store we check out.
It's like if you go intodisneyland and you're on the

(58:12):
right, like there's the bathroomthat everybody uses right there
.
It's that first store rightthere, right next to, uh, the
abraham lincoln thing.
So it's um.
So it's different than thedisney animators one, yes, okay,
I thought it was the same thing.
They had just taken over thatsales floor.
They do for special events.

(58:34):
They get rid of all theirinventory and they only have
Kincaid stuff there.
They've done it a couple timessince we've been there.
Otherwise, they just have theregular Disney prints and stuff
in there.
We've probably been in therebefore and they just have like
the regular disney prints andstuff in there.
We've probably been in therebefore and they have a small
star wars section, usually right, pretty much, yeah, but this
one was the majority of thestore was star, yeah, because I
mean it was may, the fourthweekend, so, yeah, yeah, I think

(58:57):
he said the next one they'redoing is, uh, for the 70th, so
we had a couple years for that.
No, no, that's this year 70thof Disneyland or Disney, disney
or Disneyland.
Probably Disneyland, becauseDisneyland's an OG one.
Right, yeah, Everything's old,yup, so is us.
But yeah, I don't know, besidesthat, anything going on this

(59:22):
week.
Oh, my wife is graduating.
Hey, she's got a master'sdegree.
Yeah, and is she going to moveon to grad school or is she done
with her?
No, she is.
This is so that she can be aprincipal at school.
Oh, okay, so she's moving up inthe world, maybe, maybe not.

(59:43):
It at least gets her more money.
It changes her columnadvancement.
Is she still at that same place, the private school?
No, god, no, she hasn't beenthere since.
She only sat there for twoyears, dude.
Okay, she's been a publicschool teacher.
I don't think we've talked abouther work in a while.
No, no, no, I remember ushaving the conversation when

(01:00:04):
your little one was little.
So we like gone to like walmartor some shit, right, yeah, no,
she's been a public schoolteacher since my oldest was born
.
Okay, maybe it was your oldestwas, but yeah, that's cool.
I told her she had to stay ather school now until little one

(01:00:26):
gets out of fifth grade, okay,but she can still be the
principal of said school.
She could be if they had anopening.
I have assistant principal.
She has to be assistantprincipal or she can be an
actual principal.
But it'll also get her likeother, like she could do other
admin stuff Like for thedistrict.
Sure, how is Is she?
Is there like a concern?
How much of she could do otheradmin stuff like for the
district?

(01:00:47):
Sure, so how is is she?
Is there like a concern?
How much of?
I haven't really talked toanybody who's like a school
teacher or anything like all thechanges that have been going on
in the federal government.
Has any of the stuff affectedher?
No, not so far.
Okay, the the special ed stuff,cause they moved it.
They got rid of the Departmentof Education, but they didn't

(01:01:09):
get rid of our student loans.
They didn't get rid of thespecial ed programs, they just
gave them to other people.
So it's still there, but theyjust got rid of it.
So they look like they're doingsomething, I guess.
Yeah, speaking of wrestling,linda McMahon was in charge of
all that shit.
Yeah, she was Talk.
Speaking of wrestling, lindaMcMahon was in charge of all
that shit.
Yeah, she was Talk aboutsomebody who sounds dumb as shit
.
Stay in your lane, woman.

(01:01:31):
Stay in your lane.
Don't you go worry about yourhusband raping people.
Yeah, exactly About yourhusband making out with people
while you're in a catatonicstate.
So, with that being said, Ihave to go to her graduation.
I couldn't get the day off.
I couldn't shift trade, so I amadjusting to the 6 am shift.

(01:01:51):
I start work at 6 am on Fridayand then I got lunch at the end,
so I'm out at like 345.
Okay, but gross.
Yeah, that's a long day, dude,you are going to be beat up on
Friday night.
Yeah, okay, that's a long day,dude, you are going to be beat
up on Friday night yeah, okay,you're graduated.
Okay, I'm going to bed.
Yeah, well, because you'll haveto work until like 11 o'clock
the night before, right?
Yeah Well, no, nine, nine, okay, I'll get off at nine so you'll

(01:02:15):
get home at 10, go right to bed.
Be up at five?
Yeah, pretty much, ugh Rough.
Yeah, sacrifices you make,things you do Better be
appreciated.
What did you guys do forMother's Day today?
She wanted to go to DutchBrothers because they had
Mother's Day stickers.

(01:02:35):
They were out, so we didn't goto Dutch Brothers.
We went to go see my mom for alittle bit in the hospital and
then she took a nap.
She napped for Mother's Day.
We tried to go to a hibachiplace.
It was like four-ish, how longfor four people.

(01:02:56):
He was like 8.30.
Nah, bro, deuces, wow.
So we went to Lazy Dogs, whereyou walked right in.
Yeah, pretty much.
Nice.
Wish her a happy Mother's Day.
For me, will do, will do.

(01:03:18):
Yeah, that was it.
I got her the Darth VaderStarbucks Tumbler from the
Revenge of the Sixth Drop atDisney, and it actually showed
up in time to give it to her.
Nice, that's good shipping then.
Nobody's talking to you, alexa,dang, know your lane Right.
Nobody's talking to you woman,get my 90s wrestling persona on

(01:03:47):
Know your role and shut yourmouth.
I don't think.
I mean, I think this week ispretty quiet, but I'll be
prepping for Travel, traveling,yeah, yeah, I'll be home.
We go to EDC, we'll be back oneweekend and then the following
weekend we drive to Seattle tosee a concert.
Who are you seeing?

(01:04:08):
They're called Two Friends.
Never heard of them.
They're electronic music, whichis probably why you haven't
heard of them, but they put on apretty good show.
But then after that that'simportant nothing in the pipe
until December.
I might go to New Orleans inOctober.
We'll have to see how thefinances work out, but yeah,

(01:04:28):
it'll be.
The next one will be oh, itmight come down for, like, the
long weekend for over Comic Con,for the long, you know, yeah,
yeah, we don't have a lot.
We're gonna go see Lou in June.
Nice, that'll be our summertrip, since we already spent all
our vacation money on japan.
How long are you guys gonna gosee luke for?
Um, I don't know.

(01:04:50):
I mean, I have a week off atthe end of june, okay, but um,
to knock a thing off of wife'sbirthday list or um bucket list,
bucket list she wants to go toall the state capitals.
So, yeah, no.
So are you going to my my Map?

(01:05:15):
My globe is not here right now,but it's like one state over,
right.
So you're like boom, colorado,or do you?
No, it's like between here weneed to go up, like through utah
or arizona, new mexico okay,which ones do you need to see
for those?
Are you going to go to thosestate capitals as well?
Actually, we've been to allthose, okay.

(01:05:35):
Another thing, becauseobviously we spent all that time
in freaking arizona and I'm 99sure we've done new mexico
because I think that's Santa Feyeah, that sounds right, and I
remember going there becausethey have the trains and the hot
air balloons and shit.
So I'm 99% sure we've done thatone.
And I know we did Salt LakeCity because I have a SL comma,

(01:05:58):
ut, magnet, uti.
Your SO gave you a UTI UTI.
I'm like, why does all thisstuff up here say slut?
I'm like I don't get it.
Sl, utah.
So, yeah, I bought all thatshit, I got all the slut stuff.

(01:06:19):
Nice.
And that was cool too, becauseit was before we had our second
kid and the older one was stilllittle and she watched a show
called Dinosaur Train on PBS andwhatever Happy Feely dinosaur
stuff, right, pbs educationalshit.
But they would haveintermissions and there was this
paleontologist that would tellthem about real dinosaurs and

(01:06:41):
that's his museum.
So we got to go to his museumwhen she was still into that
stuff Nice, so it was kind ofcool.
And now she's just into thepost-apocalyptic.
Yeah, now she's into destroyingthe world.
Yeah, yeah, I heard a seasontwo wrapped production so I
guess that's good.
Yeah, it did.
Yeah, I saw a picture of uhwalton pulling off his makeup.

(01:07:07):
He was on snl last night.
He was.
I watched his uh opening hisone of his monologues about his
uh sex symbol.
Yeah, stuff, yeah, he wasreading the headlines.
It's like the word I'm mostpart about.
This one I'm most offendedabout is the word of the use of
the word whom.
What kind of pretentious shitis that?
Uh?
And to think, like 20 years agowhen he was fucking shane on

(01:07:30):
the shield, yeah, like, isn'tthat wild?
Like, like we knew him fuckingback in the day, right, and I
can agree, his hairline hasalways been there.
Yes, exactly, even as shane asa 20 year man.
His hairline was exactly thesame.
It has not moved.
Verified he didn't have moneyto fake it back then.

(01:07:54):
Nope, no, he did not,regardless of how many piles he
stole from the Armenian mob.
I should make my wife watch thatthe Shield yeah, I've never met
her go through it.
I tried to get her to watchjustified I think we watched
like the first couple and thenwe got distracted.
The only one of those effectshows I actually got her to

(01:08:15):
watch was uh, rescue me.
Oh, and sons of anarchy.
We watched that one too, whichalso had walton, yeah, as a van
damme, venus van damme.
Yeah, I'll have to re-watch.
I'm gonna probably re-watch theshield.
I started doing a re-watch.
I lost, but then, like everybodywas like, oh, why are you
watching that?
It was a bad show.
I'm like it wasn't a bad show.

(01:08:37):
It had a bad season when thewriter's strike happened.
It's not my fault, I jumpedship then.
But again, people are haters,right.
So that's what, that's what wehave established.
I think bad season when thewriter's strike happened.
It's not my fault, I jumpedship on then.
But again, people are haters,right.
So that's what, that's what wehave established.
I think, oh, if there's nothingelse that you've learned from
this podcast, you know thatpeople are haters.
Yeah, I just want to jump onthe bandwagon and hate.

(01:08:58):
I'm speaking to Lou right now.
Who's listening to this.
He's gonna like and subscriberight now.
Yeah, hit like and subscribe,but yeah, all right.
Well, I think that's it.
Wrap it up.
I guess lou decided that hedidn't want to join us 45
minutes late.
Yeah, did he even say anything?

(01:09:18):
He hasn't even said anything.
Oh, he didn't send us picturesof nobody.
He didn't tell us any updates.
Yeah, about how he misses usand that he wishes he was doing
the podcast instead of hangingout with people.
Yeah, be in real life.
Like talking to them, likegross, like you have to smell
them, yeah, and like actuallylike look them in the eye or the

(01:09:41):
shirt, listen to him talkingand chewing stuff.
Yeah, actually having torespond to what they're saying.
What if somebody next to him isdrinking milk or something?
What if?
What if they're one of thepeople they're hanging out with
likes to drink milk?
Yeah, and they start laughing.
It just sprays everywhere.
You know where.
That wouldn't happen if he wasat home on the podcast.
Yep, exactly now, exactly Now,he's covered in milk.

(01:10:05):
Yep, it's better than milk,though I'd rather be covered in
milk than milk.
Yeah, yeah, this is true, stayout of the ocean.
I'm talking about fish, eggsand or milk, like, hey, we
almost made it an hour and ahalf and I don't think it was a
bad podcast.
You know what, though, I'm notmad about it, because our uh,
our subscription is not renewinguntil 11 days and we well, you

(01:10:28):
know what?
We still have six hours left.
So, no, I think we'll be allright.
Oh, no, no, no, no, we have twoand a half hours left.
Oh, perfect, so we have onemore.
Doesn't renew until the 23rd.
So, yeah, if we can keep, ifthis is down to an hour, I'll be
happy, as will my bank account.
It's not a lot when you go over, but it's not nothing.

(01:10:52):
Yeah, it's.
You know no reason to Exactly.
You know, for the 11 peoplewatching or listening, yeah,
let's start a Patreon orsomething.
What would we offer for thePatreon?
We'd have to start doingmultiple podcasts.

(01:11:13):
Right, we'll do toplesspodcasts.
Oh, the bottom has dropped outagain.
We were doing really good.
Yeah, our hot tub.
Once the pool gets done, we canstart doing hot tub.
We'll start doing hot tubs.
Four episodes have been fire inthe last 30 days.
Oh, no, we just, they're justhappy that we've released four
podcasts.
Right, like you go, boys, yougo, yeah, nobody's listening,

(01:11:36):
but it's fine, it's fine.
Still sad.
When I click on monetization,it's just like no, not yet.
Not yet, sirs, not yet.
Not that we need that or wantthat.
But no, would I be mad about itthough?
No, not at all, I'd be allright.
But again, it would all just goright back into the podcast, so

(01:11:59):
it wouldn't.
Uh, you know, last 30 days.
Basically, I don't understand.
Oh, this, I don't understandwhy they don't.
Okay, first, seven days of thelast 20 episodes no, I was
looking at it's weird, becausethe I don't know the, the page
that shows all the stats andstuff is weird.
But whatever, yeah, yeah,because, like, some of them are

(01:12:20):
all time, but then some, like,it makes you feel better because
you're like, oh yeah.
Then you're like, oh, that'sall-time, versus the four people
that have downloaded your lastthree episodes.
Yeah, I don't know whathappened with that nostalgic
flick, some Bumpin' Uglies, thatone back on March 4th, episode
one of season two, it bombed.
No, it was 22 downloads, bruh,oh, all right, right, wow,

(01:12:44):
that's crazy considering howrecent it was.
Right, it's like I'm just goingto call every episode episode
one, because our first episodehad 35 downloads.
So I think people are justlooking for the first episode of
everything and just downloadingit.
So I'll just tell everybodyit's our first episode, first
episode of season two.
Season three, episode one.

(01:13:04):
We'll be on season 35 here in aminute.
No shit, yeah, we're.
We're in season 52, episode one, but we've only been on air for
two years.
Let's see where were thosepeople from the united states?
We got three people from japan.
Ukraine we still getting peoplefrom the Ukraine.

(01:13:25):
Again, I'm going to go with.
Those are North Korean soldiersthat are just happy to be
listening to your podcast, right?
France we got some Francerepresentation.
What's up?
France, bangladesh, australiaand Germany.
Nice, nagoya Three people inNagoya, three people in Paris.

(01:13:47):
I wish it would give us more,more detail than this.
I want to know who these peopleare.
People you need to saysomething, right?
We want to know who you are.
We're not trying to be assholesand be like, subscribe and like
and chat, but we just want toknow like, hey, again, I think
we said that on the firstepisode was like, yeah, hey,
like.
What do you want to hear fromus.
What are we doing that worksand what are we doing that
doesn't?
We want to make a better podcast.
We don't want to be just likeevery other three guy with three

(01:14:10):
guys who are just fucking nerdspodcast Like we'd like to be
better.
Right, we can talk abouteverything.
We are very well read.
I mean, the people on thepodcast right now are really
well read.
The other one of us, he's allright and he's not here to get
all twisted about it.
We'll hear about it next week,though.

(01:14:30):
Yeah, he'll be on here.
Like, when's the funny?
I heard that you were talkingshit and you didn't think that I
would hear it, and then I'll belike that shit is bananas,
b-a-n-a-n-a-n-a-s, oh shit.
All right, sir.

(01:14:51):
No, we should all be back nextweek.
Nope, we won't be.
We'll continue Because I willbe at the UDC, so it'll be the
two of you having to clean up mymess.
So Celebration, japan, stuffwill still be delayed another
week, aren't you guys?
Lucky, actually, you know what.
We might play that by year,okay, so, uh, well, we gotta

(01:15:11):
hear about your disney trip too.
So maybe next week you two cantalk.
If I don't join you, you cantalk about disney.
Well, you can talk about hellokitty land and your experiences
after I dipped on you guys.
That's true.
That's true because you havelike another five days to talk
about after I left.
Yeah, so we've, we've basicallytold the story, excluding
celebration.
Yeah, I think lewis needs totalk about um, world's fair.

(01:15:34):
Yeah, I talked about hellokitty already.
Yeah, but you can talk aboutworld, but, yeah, no, we can
talk about.
Do we talk about your boy andall that already?
No, I did, because we talkedabout donkeyibuya and all that
already.
No, I did Because we talkedabout Donkey.
Oh, yeah, how you didn't get togo to the Crossy Walk and the
Mega Donkey Odie, yeah, so yeah,no, I think we just have Disney
and the Flight Home left.
Maybe we'll cover that and thenyou can listen to it.

(01:15:54):
Yeah, and then the followingweek, we can get into
Celebration and start giving ourcriticisms and the good and the
bad and the ugly.
Yeah, get back to our regularpop culture, andor and all that
bullshit.
Andor will be super over bythen.
Yeah, actually, wednesday, weare me and my two buddies that
joined us in Japan Watch party.

(01:16:16):
Yeah, we're doing a finalewatch party and rolling right
into Rogue One, so we'll watchthe 10 and 11, and then we'll
watch the 10 and 11, and thenwe'll watch 12 together and then
watch Rogue One together, justto see how.
But then I'm like, but if we'regoing to watch Rogue One, then
that ties to A New Hope.
So then we've got to watch ANew Hope, right, it never ends.

(01:16:38):
Nope, there'll be time to catcha flight to EDC by the time
you're done.
No shit, so well, yeah, everytime to get catch a flight to
edc by the time you're done noshit.
Huh, what'd you do?
Oh, I watched all nine starwars movies.
Did you pack anything to go?
Nope, it's just me.
No, I didn't have time gettingthe credit card out to buy
clothes.
I'll buy something there, yeah,fine.
Yeah, they have clothes invegas.
Yeah, exactly so, but yeah, Ithink that'll work.
So next week, guys uh, you knowspoilers.

(01:16:59):
Yeah, we'll do our disney.
Talk about disney, talkingabout to Tokyo Disney, the
differences.
One of us on the podcast isvery experienced at Disneyland.
I'll be interested to hear whatyou thought as far as the
differences and the atmosphereand that type of thing.
You're very familiar with it.
Everyone, have a good week,deuces.