February 19, 2025 • 61 mins
This episode delves into the journey of self-love, resilience, and community as the hosts, Lyanette, Shiney and Briana reflect on their personal experiences from the past few months of divorce, single motherhood, sobriety, and evolving relationships. They discuss the importance of embracing vulnerability and building connections while looking forward to creating supportive events in the future.
• Reflection on the highs and lows of personal journeys
• Emphasizing the power of community and vulnerability
• Briana shares her journey through divorce and motherhood
• Achievements in maintaining sobriety
• Future plans for events fostering connection among women
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hi, I am your host, Leonette Talley, and you are
listening to Virago 24-7.
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together to talk about life andour experiences in this world.
We share our views on self-love, mental health, marriage,
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children, friendships and reallyanything that needs to be
talked about.
Here you will find everydaygrowth, everyday healing with
Everyday Warriors.
Let's go.
Welcome back, ladies.
(00:47):
Hi, Hello, How's it going?
It's been a hot minute.
It's been like 84,000 years ithas been.
That's what it feels like I meanI know it's been like since
early November, but it feelslike a lifetime.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, we got our shit together now, so we're going to
be consistent yes and it's thenew year, it's 2025.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, we are going to thrive.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Happy thanksgiving, merry christmas, happy new year
and happy valentine's day and,as they add in the happy diwali,
happy kwanzaa there we go happyhanukkah happy hanukkah so many
things.
Yes, the other day, it was umthe lunar hug, a national
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alcoholic day.
Oh my gosh, tell that story Iwas.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I was in my kitchen cooking, right, I get a text
from Kaylin.
It's like 10 o'clock at night.
She's like hey has, have yougotten your hug today?
I'm like my hug.
I'm like do you mean?
She sends me a screenshot of agoogle holiday and it's like
happy, um hug.
It was hug, a national hug andalcoholic day.
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And she was like nobody huggedyou and I was like no, I feel
gypped my holiday.
I was cracking up.
She was like I was trying tofigure out why the neighbors
were setting off fireworks.
That's hilarious.
And I had.
We were seeing each othertomorrow.
So the next day she came up tome and she gave me a hug.
She was like here's youralcoholic hug.
I was like thanks.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I love it.
That's funny.
So how have we been Been good?
How's it going?
How's life treating everybody?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
It's got hands at times, man.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I mean we got we got to get into.
We'll get into it later andgive an update and a summary of
what the heck has been going on,but highlights and lowlights,
that's what we need to startwith Tell us Brie Highlights and
lowlights.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So my highlight would be that my divorce was
finalized in December.
So I am officially a divorceeand free of my marriage.
And the lowlights would just bejust trying to get in the swing
of things, trying to navigatebeing a single mom again.
When I was a single mom beforeI had one baby and one baby
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daddy and now I have two babiesand two baby daddies.
So just trying to navigate thatwith work, finances, everything
.
But I feel like I'm getting theswing of things.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I saw a video or reel last night.
I'm not sure if I sent it toyou, but I need to.
It was so cute.
It was a beautiful womansitting in a dark dining hall at
a restaurant and she lookedreally pretty and she's blowing
out the candles and thegentleman in the next table said
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oh, what are you celebrating?
Are you celebrating yourbirthday?
She goes no, I just gotdivorced.
I love it.
I love it.
I thought it was so fabulous.
She blew out her, her, her, youknow her candle and everybody
clapped and I just loved herenergy and I thought of you.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I love that.
My divorce is definitelysomething to be celebrated, and
we shall.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
We will we will.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So shiny hurdles highlights anything to share.
I know it's been a long time,so we can pick from a lot.
So what's going on?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
My highlights is that I got through two weddings my
brother-in-law got married inNovember in New York and my my
brother, got married in Floridain December and it wasn't one
was like the big Indian weddingand the other was everybody
wedding, but both were reallygreat and all the stress that
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comes along with it was, I think, I handled really well.
My journey has been long, butit's I'm, I'm, I'm good.
The journey is the destinationfor me.
Now I feel that I have all theequipment in my backpack to
handle whatever comes at me.
And uh, it was.
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It was smooth sailing and theholidays were were really cold
but really nice.
So that's my highlight and myhurdle was just the stuff that
did come with it, the stressthat did come with it.
There were some hurdles withfamily and I realized that my
family is not the only family.
It's complicated.
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I'm not alone.
So there's my H and H.
We'll leave it at that I loveit.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
We'll talk about the details later.
For me there have been sohurdles, hurdles.
Hurdles are more office related, where I have to realize that
not everybody thinks the way Ithink, feels the way I feel,
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communicates the way Icommunicate, does things the way
I want them to be done.
So that's been a strugglebecause I'm behind the scenes at
the office but I observe a lot,I'm very observant and just
learning to keep those emotionsin check and realize there's a
process to everything and Idon't have to interject myself
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into things.
I'm very protective of thatpractice because I have seen
Philip literally build it fromnothing to what it's become
today.
It's he we opened up thepractice in June of 2006.
So we are going on 19 years atbeing at that, at that practice,
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at that location.
So I'm very protective.
But, like he tells me all thetime, there's a process.
So you know it's, it's, it's a.
That's been the biggest hurdlethe past few months is just
keeping my emotions in checkwhen I see that things aren't
being done the way he expects itto be.
And yeah, anyways, I'll keep itat that because there's people
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from the office that listen tous.
I can't go into details but,yes, that's been a hurdle.
Highlights have been that we areall happy and healthy in the
Tally household.
Kaylin has.
I know it's only been a month,two months, that we've been in
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2025, but it has been atransformation.
She had had a few things thathappened at the beginning,
literally New Year's Eve, andit's like the blinders have come
off.
She's.
The energy has shifted for thepositive.
The energy has shifted for thepositive.
It's been so great to see hershine and blossom like she had a
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few years ago, and she'll admitthat she has been in a fog and
that she has been in a darkplace, and it's like she's
rejuvenated.
It's like a butterfly came outof the cocoon.
It's so great and so that's ahuge highlight and that's how we
started 2025 is with thistransformation.
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It's awesome.
I've been praying, praying,praying, praying.
Finally my prayers have beenanswered.
So, yeah, so happy for you.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, thank you Thank you.
Yeah, thank you, thank you,thank you.
Happy for you, happy for kaylin.
Yeah, she's such a specialperson and seeing her go through
some of the tough times was itwas tough.
As someone who loves her andlooks at her like a little
sister, it was tough.
But seeing her come out andjust be who she is and her
confidence and her glow and herhumor and her love and
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admiration for you and for dadhas just been.
It's been amazing to witness.
I'm so proud of her.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
She's had.
Yeah, I just, I just feel likeit's a new beginning for for her
.
It is, it's very exciting towatch, it's amazing.
Yeah, super excited about that.
So no complaints in the homefront.
Yeah, and I just, yeah, superexcited about that.
So no complaints in the homefront.
Yeah, and I just, I'm such aI've, I've always I've, I've
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learned that I'm also apessimist at heart, because when
anything that is like goingwell, I'm just like, okay, so
when?
When is it going to go shitty?
And obviously, hello, thingsare going to happen.
But it's like you can't, Ican't sit in it.
And that's one thing that Iwant to learn in this year,
cause every year I'm like, oh,this is the year that I'm going
to just be in the moment andjust enjoy it.
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And I do, but in the back of mymind, when is the shit going to
hit the fan?
And that's not healthy.
So I want to be Zen, enjoy it.
When shit hits the fan, we'rejust going to go through it and
learn the lessons.
And I say that outwardly, but Idon't always like, feel it deep
down in my spirit.
I want to embody it.
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I want and so that's what I'mworking on this year is.
Is that being in it and beingokay, instead of waiting for,
for, for the, the, for the shitto happen?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
so yeah, something that I'm I'm trying to um, live
and abide by.
Is that because I'm a naturallyI'm an anxious person and I
feel the same way, like whenthings are going well, you're
like, okay, when, when is shitgonna not go?
well, because you know it'sgonna happen, but you have to
think about it in a way.
If you live that way, you'regonna stress about something
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twice.
You're gonna stress about it ina way.
If you live that way, you'regoing to stress about something
twice.
You're going to stress about ittwice because in the good
moments you're stressing aboutOK, what's going to happen, and
then when does, when somethingdoes happen, you stress about it
again.
So there's no need to stressabout the same things twice.
And I'm saying that, but I'mgoing to go home and stress
about shit that's going tohappen five years from now.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So I love how we can say it, but we don't take our
own advice I was going to sayand I, this is where we're.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
We're all different.
Is that I?
I am hopeful to a fault,because you know my journey.
I've been in therapy for a longtime and I've had different
therapists.
And recently I was telling um afriend, a new friend, about
therapy and he made fun of me.
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He said you know, when you saidyou went to this therapist or
that therapist, it kind ofsounds I go like it sounds like
I'm crazy, and he goes.
He goes.
No, we don't say the C word.
I said okay.
I said well, I'm not.
And he said well, everybodydoes therapy now, so it's
normalized.
I said well, I hope so, becausethat's why I say it out loud,
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because culturally, as Asians,we we don't go to therapy and we
were taught not to ever talkabout things.
But what I was going to sayabout what you guys said is I
think of worrying like a rockingchair.
It's moving but it's not goinganywhere and it's just idle.
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And another to add to that iswe want to be present.
So being present would be thatbeing anxious is thinking of the
future, being sad was thinkingabout the past.
So in order to not be anxiousor depressed, we have to be like
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current, right now.
And how are we?
Right now we are fabulous, weare together, we are enjoying
the day of love and we have somuch to be thankful for we do.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Well, you are embodying the day of love today.
You have your big pink withgold trim heart earrings and you
have your multi.
It's like a.
It's a shirt that'smulticolored but lots of pinks.
Different, yeah, differentcolor of pinks, pink leggings
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pink lipstick shiny.
I will have to say yes, we werejust now recording today, but
we've all seen each otherthroughout the months and shiny
Her glow is like the other day.
We went and got tea and we'resitting outside and we're just,
you know, catching up and we'rejust talking.
She's just talking.
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I'm looking at her.
I'm like you're just sobeautiful.
I stopped her in midconversation.
I'm like you're so beautifulNot that I didn't think you were
beautiful before, but there'ssomething going on here.
It's, it's a glow, it's a light.
Oh girl, the glow up is real.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So, anyways, you, you , you look at really vibrant
today.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Thank you.
I I think there has been a hugeshift in my life, similar to
what Bree says, because BreeBree's really good about talking
about, um, not feeling worthyand not feeling enough, uh, and
and herself, uh, herself-confidence going down.
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I have struggled with that mywhole life and this time or this
phase of my life, uh, being amother is very different.
It's taxing, it's, it's tedious, it's I have a color coded
calendar.
I'm not like that.
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I'm not type A.
I think I actually piss type Apeople off.
I feel like I'm type EFG, lmnop,but I'm forced to be
responsible because I have twochildren that I have to be in
charge of.
Of course, they need my fullattention, guidance, support,
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love, all of it.
And it's also the time, thisphase of my life, where I've
struggled to make friends, somany things.
But on this journey, makingwonderful friends and having
really good books and being, Iguess, a researcher already and
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going, having the guts to go totherapy and get it, I'm always
like looking at classes andlectures, just I say I yearn to
learn, but just being that way,uh has helped me and having good
influences.
So I feel like, yes, I've, Ireally have started to shine
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from within.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And you can tell, and we'll get into that, not today,
but we are going to get intothe fact that there why there's
been a lot of change in yourlife, and that'll be next
episode.
So, yeah, stay tuned.
Yeah, so Shiny's ready to, yeah, to to to share what she feels
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like sharing and so that we canunderstand her journey a little
better.
Cause.
I call it, the evolution ofshiny.
I said there's been a wholeevolution.
We've known each other sincewhen did you move into the
neighborhood?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
We moved in 2016.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, so we were friends.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, we've been friends since 2016.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
And I've seen the evolution.
Oh, yes, you have, and we'regoing to find out why.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Absolutely, or I mean .
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Brianna, yes.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Absolutely, or I mean Brianna.
So you said that you gotdivorced officially.
Ultimately I'm feeling prettygood.
I am excited to.
The sad parts are mourningsomething that didn't exist
Right.
So, like in my, I have alwaysbeen coming from like a
traumatic childhood.
I've always been somebody whocraved like a family unit,
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craved a two parent householdfor my kids.
I wanted to be like that soccermom.
So with the divorce, thesadness was mourning something
that never existed.
I never had that with myex-husband.
We never had that in our home.
We never had true happinesstogether.
So I do feel like my divorce issomething we celebrated.
I feel like I'm free of it.
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I needed to go through thatexperience.
I got my beautiful son out ofit, but ultimately I feel like I
am getting all of my confidenceback.
I'm getting my self-worth back.
I feel pretty, I feel smart, Ifeel capable, I feel independent
for the most part, so it's beengood.
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The tough times are obviouslylike the financial burdens of
being a single parent to twokids, the tiredness that comes
along with.
You know.
I wake up at 5 am.
I have a toddler who stilldoesn't sleep through the night.
He gets up two or three times anight.
So I'm running on fumes mostday.
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I get up at 5 am and I go towork and then I come home, I
pick up both of my kids and thenI do dinner and bath time and
homework and I don't sit downand like truly have time for
Brianna until like 9, 30, 10o'clock at night.
So it's draining, it isgenuinely draining.
I don't remember the last timeI didn't feel tired, but that's
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just.
That's a part of life.
It comes with the territory.
I'm fortunate to be sober.
Um, in June I will have had thebeginning of June, I will have
had an entire year of sobriety,which we're going to celebrate
big, which I have.
I have not had true sobrietylike this from alcohol my entire
life.
I had my first drink when I waseight years old and then
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obviously alcohol took me down aterrifying path with a lot of
um, turmoil and, aside from mypregnancies, I have never gone
this long without alcohol, noteven a single drop.
I don't even even use Listerinewith alcohol in it anymore.
I mean, I have in the last ninemonths, but like I just, I've
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gone a single or I haven't had asingle drop of alcohol in so
long and that has never, ever,ever happened.
And with that I have so muchpride, because alcoholism is
hard, addiction is hard and I'mdoing the damn thing, so I feel
so much pride in that, so that'slike the biggest victory for me
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.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And the crazy thing is you know you and I have
talked about this has been thelast few months has been one of
the hardest and trying times foryou and the fact that you've
been able to do it withoutturning to alcohol as your
support system has been amazing.
So if you can get through theselast few months sober, that's a
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big deal.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, I think that's a good point.
I I've there, have been therehave been so many times that I
have just been like so sad, orlike hopeless or um, even times
like I'm throwing myself a pityparty and the old me would have,
even if I didn't go buy alcohol, I would have toyed with the
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idea like one, one drink and Ican turn my mind off.
One drink and I can stopfeeling this way.
I haven't even considered it, Ihave not even.
The only thoughts I have aroundalcohol are just proud, like
just pride.
I'm so proud that I haven'teven thought like one drink and
nobody will know.
You know, um, I really had tolearn how to play the tape all
the way through and I know whatone drink leads to and I'm
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really leaning into my supportsystem, which I mean you guys
have told me so many yearswhenever I was actively drinking
.
You guys have told me like, ifyou, if you feel like you're
going to drink, call us.
If you're feeling sad, call us.
If you feel this way, call us.
And I never did.
I would go buy alcohol and Ifeel like I'm getting a little
bit better about that.
Like you know, whenever I'm atmy lowest lows.
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You know, whenever I'm havinghard times like I really feel
like I'm leaning into my supportsystem, so that is like the
biggest.
Honestly, I get reallyemotional thinking about it.
It's such a huge accomplishmentand I feel really proud about
that.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So, yeah, and we were talking about how.
So now you're.
I don't know if we talked aboutit in our last show, about you
being back at the practice andhow it's been a big deal that
you've showed up to work andtell us about.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
So whenever I started working for Innovative Smiles,
it was in 2013.
I had I was literally straightout of high school.
I was a brand new mom.
I think Maddox was like sixweeks old when I started working
there.
I was literally straight out ofhigh school.
I was a brand new mom.
I think Maddox was like sixweeks old when I started working
there.
Um, I was so young, I knewnothing about dentistry.
I was a high school dropout.
I knew nothing.
When I started working at thepractice, I grew rapidly into my
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role.
Um, I was presenting all of thehigh end treatment plans.
You know, within a year or twoof me being there, I was
traveling the United States andteaching other people in
dentistry.
People who are older than mehave been doing it way longer
than me, longer than I had beenalive.
I was teaching them aboutdentistry and Invisalign and all
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of this stuff and I loved it.
I just felt like I was on topof the world at that time.
And then depression andalcoholism, the death of my
brother, like so many bad thingshappen, and I turned to alcohol
and, towards the end of mebeing at the practice, that I
would not show up for a week ata time I would no call, no show.
I we, and it has had to comeand physically drag me out of
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bed.
I'm not even joking, dragged meout of bed, I'm not even joking
.
Um, put my shoes on for me,like the end of my time at the
practice was such a dark time.
And so now I get up everysingle day, I do my devotionals
in the morning.
I have not missed a day of work.
I'm always on time.
I feel like I'm very consistent,I'm very dependable, um, which
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I was not in my active addiction, and I just it feels good to be
back.
There are some trying times,like personally and
professionally, the trying timesas far as like balancing being
a working single mom, balancingthe exhaustion that comes with
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that, the financial burden, youknow.
But I feel like every day I getup and I just do it and it
feels good and I genuinely lovewhat I do.
I love working at InnovativeSmiles.
I love working for my dad Icall Dr Talley dad.
I love working for him.
I love working for Leonette andI just, girl, you do not work
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for me, I'm an employee justlike you.
No, the way I see it, my dad andLeonette are a unit, Nope nope,
nope, I've excommunicatedmyself from the duo.
Honestly, you two are a unit.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I stay in my lane, girl, I stay in my lane.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well, I feel like I work for my dad and Leonette.
But it doesn't matter how tiredI am, how sad I am, I get up
and I'm always there and I takea lot of pride in that and it
feels good to be dependable,especially somebody who was.
Well, we don't know if Briannais going to show up to work
tomorrow.
We can't get in touch withBrianna.
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We don't know if Brianna isgoing to be where she says she
is, especially being thatversion of myself for um, so
many years, it feels really goodto be dependable.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Um, and yeah, I'm loving being and I'm sure it was
like so exhausting too, so likelying and pretending and you
know, I'm sure it wasn'tphysically good for you the
feeling that you had.
So 2025 is starting off great,it's funny.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
You say that when I was actively drinking, I lied
all the time about whether it beabout whether or not I drank
when I drank.
I mean, I lied all of the timeand yes, you are right, that is
exhausting.
Having to remember what you sayor what you did every day is
exhausting.
And then you trip yourself up,obviously because you can't
maintain that forever.
And then I was actually tellingLeonette the other day.
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There are days that I get up andI you know, axel was up two
hours of the night and I'mstanding in the shower and I'm
like I don't know how I can dothis today.
I'm too tired to go to work,like I don't know how to.
But then I take myself back to.
There were days that I got upand I was still drunk and I was
in the shower trying to getready for work.
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There were days that I got upand I had to pull over on the
side of the road to throw upbefore I got to work.
There are days that I got up togo to work and I had to stop at
a gas station or a restaurantand buy a mini bottle of wine in
order to be able to walk intowork.
So whenever I'm feeling thosemoments of exhaustion or like,
um, just you know, being tired,I'm like shit, I can do this.
If I could do that, I can dothis.
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This is easy stuff.
So, yeah, I just I'm filledwith gratitude about that we're
proud of you.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
2025 is on fire.
Um, I think for me, the pastfew months a lot of hibernating.
We've gotten a lot of snow herein Georgia, cold nights, cold
days, a few snow days where wehad to stay bunkered up, and
people in the north don'tunderstand us people in the
south, but it is what it is.
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I think the biggest thing is mewanting to be more, like I said
you know earlier more zen, morepresent, and I think I've been
working really hard on that Notnot getting so emotional.
And the Kaylin thing has beenvery major.
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Christmas was just the five ofus.
New Year's was just the five ofus, so it's been.
It was a good way to start offthe year and end the year where
it's just us instead of the fourof us and Kaylin somewhere else
.
It's been, it was the five ofus and yeah, so 2025 is looking
good.
I if you all, if you all don'tknow, if you haven't listened to
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every single show or podcastthe past four years with Kaylin
have been very, very hard withyou know.
I think we all go through it.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I've been those who who aren't listening to every
episode.
Can you tell us who Kaylin is?
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
If you don't know who Kaylin is, she is my 23 year
old child and if you seepictures of me, you'd be like
what do you mean?
You have a 23 year old child.
It's true, she'll be 24 inMarch and when she went off to
college, it was like the worldwas her oyster, like she was
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like ready to conquer the world.
And then, as we all know, 2020came along and COVID hit and she
had to come home from schoolbecause everything was shut down
and that following year theywere still not on campus.
So she took a year off and shejust went into this dark
depression, just dark.
I was the enemy, phillip wasthe enemy.
(27:39):
My husband was the enemy, likeeveryone's the enemy.
The only person that she clungto was the enemy.
Philip was the enemy.
My husband was the enemy, likeeveryone's the enemy.
The only person that she clungto was her boyfriend, and I
don't know, in my personalopinion, if that was the best
thing for her.
But what do I know?
I'm just a mother and justobserving, but it was.
It is a lot.
I don't have to go througheverything.
You go find the episodes.
There was a lot that happenedand I tried so many different
(28:03):
things.
I tried the listening ear anddon't say your opinion and be
quiet.
And my natural instinct is totell you how I feel.
Give my opinion, take it orleave it.
That's me opinion.
Take it or leave it, that's me.
You don't have to at this point.
She's 24 years old.
(28:23):
Take it or leave it.
This is your life.
I'm here to guide you at thispoint.
It's not my life.
I already lived my life.
I already went through mydepression.
I already went through my darkplace.
All I can tell you is like howI came out of it and and.
But everyone's journey isdifferent and I literally and I
think I've said this before isI've literally for my faith.
(28:45):
I believe in God and I think,as parents, we want to cling on
to our kids and we are the end,all be all.
And then I have to realize,from a place of my faith and my
and my relationship with God isthat like, yes, she was given to
me to nurture and guide, butthat this is his child, like
this is between you and him andGod, this is your girl.
(29:07):
So you, you work out whateveryou need to work out with her,
and I've had to come to thatrealization that I love her.
I adore her Not just her, likeall three of my kids, but God
has a journey for all of us,including our kids.
We don't want to see themsuffer, we don't want to see
them hurt.
We don't want to see them inpain.
However, how have we've grownas people is?
(29:27):
Through the shit, the muck, andit's horrible to be in that
state, but I had to realize thatthis is how she's going to
learn and grow in her journey asa person.
And so she got know, she gotbroken up with I don't know if
I'm allowed to say that, sorry,I'll ask for forgiveness later.
She got broken up with on NewYear's Eve and with a boyfriend
(29:52):
that she was with for what?
Three years, almost four years,and but something happened in
the process of that happening.
Yes, it was sad, but it's likeblinders came off, and I'm not
saying he was the cause I don'teven want people to think that
he was the cause of her beingdepressed.
(30:12):
That's not it.
I'm not saying that.
But I think, in him breaking up, I think it forced her to look
at her life for the very firsttime.
I don't I mean I shouldn't sayshe wasn't looking at it because
I can't be in her, in her brain, but I can tell, like right now
, that she's looking at what shewants and what she needs out of
(30:34):
life.
And in the month and a halfbecause New Year's Eve was what
a few days, a few weeks ago it'sbeen a shift where the blinders
are off, the positivity is back, the how she views herself.
You can tell that she is caringabout herself and how she
(30:58):
presents herself to the world.
So it it's been, it's yeah,it's been good, it's been good
to see.
So that's been the biggestthing that has happened in in
our lives and in my life.
That's affected me and I justpray that we continue on this
journey and, like I've told her,shit's going to happen and
right now you're feeling goodand everything's great and we're
(31:22):
getting back on track with justeven something as small as her
engaging with us, like we usedto all hang out and watch movies
together or play games, andshe's literally been absent from
for a lot of that.
If we're going to be honest andnot because we wanted to, it's
just because I'm not going toforce someone, including my kids
, to be a part of something thatthey don't want to be a part of
(31:44):
, and so with her and she's anadult, legally she's an adult.
I'm not forcing her to playgames with us, I'm not forcing
her to show up to a family event.
That's your choice.
And so there's been someisolation.
That's happened and just I knowthis sounds so basic, but just
her coming down to the basementand looking for me so that she
can tell me something, or we'reall gathered out on the deck and
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she's out on the deck engagedin conversation.
That's how it was before.
That's not how it's been thelast four months.
So me saying that sounds sosimple, but even that has been
such a big, big, big deal.
And, like the four of us, me,shiny, brianna and Kaylin went
(32:30):
to an arts.
We had an arts evening and wepainted and Kaylin's an artist
and that's what she went toschool for writing, but she can
also draw and she loves thatworld of art.
So you know, we invited her andit was wonderful.
Like maybe in the past shewould have said yes or maybe she
would.
Most of the time she said no,she didn't want to be a part of
(32:50):
something, and it was so great.
So, seeing the engagement, herhanging out with friends, her
going out, she's working, soanyways, it's been great.
I'm sure there's all smallthings going on, but that's the
biggest one and me needing to bemore Zen and I said that to a
(33:11):
friend.
They're like what does thatmean?
And I'm like I don't know.
Like do you ever see someonethat does yoga and meditates?
And they just walk around andthey have this lightness about
them, like they don't give twoF's about what's happening in a
route.
Then they're just.
They're just in their own world.
Yes, yes, and so that's what Iwant to embody.
I want to walk in.
I mean, I'm still going to beloud, leonette, and you know,
(33:34):
passionate, look at me typeperson, but to like walk in a
room and get that Zen factor,that's what I want this year.
So please help me and be inthat person.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
That's so awesome, Leonette, I think.
I think you're well on your way.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well, thank you, I have been doing the yoga and I
have been doing the meditation.
So that's step one and two.
So we'll see.
We'll see what happens with therest.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
So Just don't become too zen.
I you know, I don't thinkthat's even possible.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, that's not even possible.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
One of the most like contagious people, like your
energy and everything.
I think that's what people loveabout you is.
You are.
I don't know how you seeyourself, but how I see you and
what I feel like a lot of peoplesee you as is.
You are just the type of personthat you walk in the room and
you, like everybody, gravitatesto you, like you light up the
room.
I genuinely feel that way.
You don't give a shit whatpeople think you say, what's on
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your mind.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
That, to me, is I mean, I do care a little bit
what people think I do.
We all deep down care.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Well, yeah, she brings the fun.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
It doesn't matter who you're with.
I've known you for so long andI've seen you around so many
different types of people.
It doesn't matter who you'rewith.
If we're at church, if we arewith family, if we are out
painting, you're always the sameperson, and I love that.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Well, I will promise you this I can't become too zen
like I don't think it's even inmy dna.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
I get what you're saying like maybe internally
like you just want to feel peaceor like, embody that, or um,
bring, bring that zen factor tothe people around you.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
But I think that's and not just that, just in
reading different books aboutemotions and then talking to
shiny, who's done a lot oftherapy, and we talk about
emotions and and a lot of ouremotions.
That's not the main thing.
There's always like if you'reangry, there's a hidden meaning
for that.
That's not manifest in anger,but just understanding that and
(35:35):
keeping and keeping that in myforefront Cause I am a very
passionate person.
I have big emotionsunderstanding where those
emotions come from and lettingmyself have the emotions but
then backing off and realizingokay, what can I do differently?
Yes, I'm angry right now.
I vented, like we've had somevent sessions about certain
(35:57):
things, just a little bit.
But venting and understanding.
Okay, I vented, but I don'twant to live there Like what can
I do with this?
What can I control?
And so that's what I mean bybeing Zen and understanding
instead of allowing the emotionsto take me away.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
May I read something and say something on everything
that you said?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Please.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I love your wisdom shiny Please.
Well, I said I yearn to learn,so I one thing was and this is
also with Bree is Bree keptsaying consistent.
And I want to tell you thatconsistency is such an
attractive quality because DrShefali says we're all living
(36:45):
patterns, we're all we're notliving life.
And to truly live life, we haveto live present.
And by you being, you know,consistency is key because
change is possible and that'swhat that I know you like, I've
seen you, you know you saidEaster, which was years ago,
(37:23):
that was a very random invite,and I just it was spontaneous,
and I said hey, do you want tojust come over for lunch?
I had made a bunch of food andLeonette's like yeah, but can I
bring this person and thisperson?
And you know she's like I'mlike yeah, bring everybody.
So I liked you, you know, right, right away.
But you, you're, you're, you'realso, you know, growing and
(37:47):
changing and learning.
It's, it's wonderful, thank you.
Yeah, it's great.
And, leonette, I wanted to readsomething by Eckhart Tolle.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Oh Tolle.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Tolle yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
He wrote the Power of Now right.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yes, well, he's written many books, but Power of
Now, right now, oprah's, Ithink, made a comeback to talk
about it again because shereally wants people to read it.
I think it was written likeages ago, but I wrote something
down that he said, or wrote isawareness is the greatest agents
for change, and I was thinkingabout what you said.
Awareness means presence, andonly presence can dissolve the
(38:30):
unconscious past in you.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Everything that you were saying, I just immediately
was drawn.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
See, I could be Eckhart Tolle's assistant no.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Oh, my goodness, you just reminded me of something,
really something goofy I did.
Okay, I have to confess.
Okay, make it juicy.
So you know Instagram, we allhave Instagram.
I started mine.
I wasn't a big social mediaperson, I didn't.
I don't think I was very goodat having a social media
(39:06):
presence.
I still barely have one.
But you know, I can continue tolearn.
I have had people slide whenthey call a slide into your DMS
and I've had that happen to meover the over the years.
You know people you know eitherare selling me something or
selling themselves, who knows?
So I follow and listen to SimonSinek.
(39:29):
Do you know who that is?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
I never heard of him Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Well, he's, I think he's pretty incredible, but he
is his.
I think his, his business orhis, his company is called the
happiness project, or positivity.
He is a very like happinesspromoter, uh, positive, like, so
(39:54):
much so that I love everything.
He says about being on yourphones and, you know, not seeing
the beauty, not looking up atall the beauty around you, it
just you just continue to fallinto it.
And he also talks aboutsurrounding yourself with good
friendships and how muchconnection, you know, means to
(40:17):
all of us our health, ourlongevity, our, our joy.
So I've looked him up and andand thought, oh, you know, I
would love to work for someonelike him.
So finally, I I did somethingspontaneous and out of the
ordinary and I DM'd him, him,and I just said you know, I'm,
(40:47):
I'm a regular, Jane Um, and Ijust think that everything that
you say and and that you're the,the happiness and joy you're
spreading and is wonderful.
And if I had the opportunity towork for you, I would.
It would be wonderful, or Ihaven't heard back.
Well, first, of all.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
First of all, who cares?
This is how this is how thingshappen, is when you take
initiative.
So even if he doesn't respondtoday, send him another DM
because I honestly feel thatthis is how, like this, is how
things happen, and you would beperfect for that.
(41:24):
You are a walking happiness.
I know that you say, oh well,my life this or my life that,
but what you portray to theworld without knowing what's
going on behind the scenes?
You portray happiness andsmiley, and and that's that.
You would be perfect.
(41:45):
You would Thank you andhappiness, and if he doesn't
contact you, you start your ownhappiness.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
What is it called Happiness project?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, you start your own happiness project, darn it.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Well, thank, thank you for saying I I.
I agree, you're right.
I definitely try to put my bestfoot forward and see the best
of my day Half cup, half full.
I'm not a pessimist or askeptic and always believe in
the best in people and I hopefulto a fall.
(42:16):
So it does.
That's why I've gotten hurt andhurt more.
They say they're really nicePeople get hurt the most, but
it's because and I've, I thinkI've said this before, but I
it's it's going through reallyhard stuff that makes you not
take things for granted.
(42:37):
And I'll say that it isn'thappy people that are grateful,
it is grateful people that arehappy.
And secondly, I'll say that itwas because I was in the dark
that I seek the light.
And I think I am the way I am.
(42:58):
And because that's I, I have tolive with intention every day to
make the best of my day.
And if I can even spread it andif it's contagious, even better
, because being sad or beingworried or being depressed are
very normal feelings, but I canchoose to regulate them as soon
(43:22):
as possible and keep movingforward.
So that's, I guess, my littlesuperpower.
And I have to say I'm not alone.
I think that I have.
I have to surround myself withfriends that also want that for
me.
They don't have to be me, butjust want that for me.
(43:44):
And I also think that they alsohave to be confident in
themselves and and recognizethat shiny is happy and I love
that and I want to be happy too,and let's all both be happy
instead of trying to bring medown, cause I also attract
certain type of people who justdon't like it or it.
(44:04):
This is a good one.
My spirit irritates theirdemons.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
I love, I love that quote.
I've seen that before and it'strue.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
I've never seen that.
I love that.
Yes, and it is.
I think that that is so trueabout me because I do have my
haters.
I really do.
They are.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Because you are a very happy person, Like your
name literally fits yourpersonality.
You are very shiny and verysunshine, and people that don't
have that within them I couldthat would be irritating, Like
why is she so happy?
What's she so happy for?
And if they're in a place ofnot feeling that internally,
(44:55):
they don't know how toappreciate that.
I think it's beautiful.
I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I think it's great you know what the truth is, and
this is probably a secret thatnot everybody knows, and I
didn't know.
I used to think that yourpartner or your kids or someone
else, or your job or a vacation,that is where my happiness lies
and that's where I'm going toget it from, like when I go on
(45:21):
this vacation, or if my spouseis so super loving towards me or
if my kids do this.
But, truthfully, the changethat I needed to make and
recognize after I recognized andrealized it, cause it does take
time was happiness comes fromwithin me and that is why the
(45:42):
haters can't get it.
They want, they may want, to beclose to me at first because
they think, okay, I want to getsome of that, but dimming my
light isn't going to make yoursshine brighter, nope.
And those that do do that to me, cause you do.
There are those people who dothat.
(46:05):
I recognize in also in them orrealize that it's not about me.
They're her people, her peoplethat saying, and it's not my job
to show them where it is, andit's not my job to show them
where it is.
It's not my job to teach themor give them, you know, my joy,
(46:29):
soak mine all up so that I don'thave any left.
So that is a huge change for meas well is to only surround
myself and that my time isprecious.
Like yesterday, I canceled allmy plans and some of them were
with people, and I felt okayabout it and that is a huge
thing for me, recognizing myworth, that my time is precious
and who I spend it with.
(46:50):
Matters and I think that isanother thing about me is that I
think I see so much in peoplethat I'm friends with or getting
close to or want to be close to, is I see so much in people
that I'm friends with or orgetting close to or want to be
close to, is I see all theirbeauty and all the potential
that they don't may see, and Iencourage it and I build it up.
(47:11):
And if you can be confident ofthat, then we we are just going
to soar together because that'sand that's what you're doing,
leonette, like you're bringingall of us together as us women
and we are all different andbuilding us all up, and I am all
about that, oh well, I meanhonestly, that was the whole
(47:35):
point of this podcast.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I didn't know what I wanted out of this podcast.
I didn't know what I wanted outof this podcast.
I didn't know what I was goingto name it.
I just knew that, withdifferent women that I would
have conversations with, that,we all have something in common
and I feel like in today's world, in today's society, that we
think we're having to live lifeby ourselves and that we're the
(47:59):
only ones going through that andno one can understand these
emotions and no one canunderstand my background and no
one can understand my present ormy future, and that they're
living life alone.
And then I'm like, okay, well,this person's going through that
.
And they don't even realizethat this person over here is
literally going through the samething.
And the reason is is because wejust see each other at the store
or see each other hey, how's itgoing?
(48:26):
Everything's great.
Oh, I'm well.
Okay, we're BSing each other.
And then we're never going toknow that we can learn from each
other.
When you become vulnerable andsay this is what I'm going
through, the other person can belike holy shit, I went through
that or I'm going through that.
And then you come together tohelp each other out and realize
that you're not doing life byyourself.
(48:46):
So that was the beauty ofcoming like for me doing the
podcast, so that we can shareour stories and realize I'm not
the only one going through thisor I won't be the last either.
So, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
That's it's sometimes it can even almost seem like
taboo.
If you're a woman, if you're amother, if you're a wife, it's
some some of the things that arereally hard we don't talk about
, like there are things inmotherhood that are really hard,
and that's something that Ireally appreciate about the two
of you, and the space that thethree of us have created is like
(49:24):
we don't have to pretend likewe're perfect moms.
We don't have to pretend thatour kids are not exhausting.
We don't have to pretend thatour husbands don't get on our
nerves ex-husbands, you know,there's no pretending.
Life is fucking hard and all ofthat is so hard and I just this
space that Liana has created forus is such a special place
(49:45):
because it's so authentic, it'sso real and you're right Like
somebody else may be goingthrough a divorce, somebody else
may be co-parenting, somebodyelse may have depression or have
a daughter that they'restruggling with, and but we
don't talk about it because wefeel like we're going to be
judged, we feel like it's goingto make us look like a bad mom
or a bad wife or a bad person.
(50:05):
So I think this space ishonestly such a beautiful thing
to just be able to be real andopen and it makes you feel
better and seen and heard.
So that's my two cents.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Well, thank you for sharing that.
No, but that can lead into whatwe want to see for this coming
year and for the future.
You know we were talking aboutI know last year I didn't do
anything.
I didn't.
I didn't last year was veryheavy and emotional, so we
recorded, but as far as likecoming together and having
events, that was off the table.
(50:39):
But in 2023, I'm like, okay,let's bring the podcast in
person and let's let's createthis environment where we can
learn and grow together.
And you know I did a few things.
But now this year we want toquarterly and then maybe
eventually monthly.
But you know we'll start offsmall.
You know what were some of thethings that we're talking about,
shiny, that we wanted to do?
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Well, I mentioned that my home, that I would love,
as a Virago event, to hostdinner and dialogue series where
we talk about really importanttopics for all of us and learn
together, grow together andshare, break bread together also
(51:22):
you know, and there's so manydifferent topics and so many
different things.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
I mean there's like fitness stuff, or there's
wellness, or there's spiritual,mind, physical, and depending on
what you are needing at thatmoment in your life, I want to
start providing events that youknow somebody may not need the
emotional stuff, maybe they'realready there, but they want to
(51:47):
show up to the physical fit.
I mean, I don't know, I have awhole list and we haven't talked
about it, but exactly what wewant to do this year.
But we will start announcingthese certain events and we'll
we want it to keep it limitedfor this year so that it's more
intimate and maybe in the futureit can just get bigger.
(52:07):
But we want to start off small.
So that is the goal is we'retalking about it and now we want
to be about it in person andlike connect and connect you
with other people and theirfriends and their friends.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Where can we find information on this?
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Leonette.
Well, that's a good question,shiny, because I'm an amateur.
Right now.
I'm still learning and growing.
I do have a website and I haveto do something with that
website.
Right now it's there.
I did it myself.
Maybe one day I'll have aprofessional web designer, you
know, spruce it up, but I'mgoing to start posting.
(52:43):
I need to start posting more.
To be honest with you, I dohave my Virago page on Instagram
and Facebook.
How?
Speaker 2 (52:50):
do you spell Virago?
Speaker 1 (52:51):
V-I-R-A-G-O.
Virago, which means warrior,women warrior, and 24-7, is
where you can find each of them.
They're exactly the same.
So Instagram and Facebook, butI'll start posting more on that
on those two platforms.
And then my website isVirago247.net.
(53:17):
So Virago247.net.
There's a way to communicate onthere too.
I don't know how to look up,like if you're doing reviews on
Apple, or I don't even know howto do it on Spotify.
I may not ever see those.
So if you have any questions,thoughts, comments,
virago247.net there's a way tocontact and I get the email, or
(53:41):
just on the platforms.
So we want, because we have asegment called the virago vault
and on the virago vault we wantto answer questions and and
engage with you guys.
So we want, want, wantquestions.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Yeah, we welcome.
We welcome, we welcome yourfeedback, your questions, your
support.
We want it all.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Sorry, guys, someone's cutting grass in the
background.
So if you hear that buzzingsound, one day I was telling the
girls, one day we're going tohave our own studio and it's
going to be soundproof, but forright now this is what you guys
are getting.
We're getting the personcutting freaking grass in the
background.
(54:24):
But go ahead.
Yes, so more engagement thisyear and for our Virago vault.
There is one important questionthat we had answered.
So if you listened to lastepisode, my question was
speaking of that blower in thebackground.
Why do people rake their leaves?
I understand the blower.
(54:45):
Oh, it's gone.
Okay, they went far away.
I understand the blower.
I get that all day long becauseit's but the raking and then
the putting it in the bags.
So after we recorded thatepisode, philip my husband was
upstairs with his guy group andour fellow Mexican friend,
justin.
(55:05):
He's been on the podcast manytimes and he helps with the
editing of the show, but we wentup there.
I was like, yeah, so what's upwith people raking their leaves?
And what did he say?
He he's like as I can answerthis, since I'm mexican, this is
what I can answer.
He said that the reason isthere's certain grass that can
(55:29):
die or get killed or get brownedor something from the leaves
all the types of grass heliterally started naming
different yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
I'm Mexican.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
First of all, he's never worked a day in his life
in landscaping Right, but it iskind of funny.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
It is really funny, because the grass that he
mentioned I didn't say anything,I just kept quiet is my grass,
yeah, and immediately I hiredsomebody, like about a week
after.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Really, he absolutely influenced me.
He I wish I could remember thename.
I think I have the grass Fescue.
I have the grass Because theleaves were killing him.
The leaves would kill and itmakes so much sense because I'm
I feel like my house has theshitty grass.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
So there's no stupid question.
See, I brought this.
So the Virago vault, anyquestion.
There are no stupid questions,there's nothing off limits.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Even something silly.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Even something as silly as why do people rake
their grass?
And now Shiny has beautiful,soon to be grass, yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
So I hired.
I went to Thumbtack and I hireda company and I even bargained
to get a better price and andnow they've been coming monthly.
I'm really happy with them.
I think they're called Big PineLandscaping.
Sponsor us, and I would saythat is also a future dream for
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us we need sponsors.
We are happy to promote andspread all the good news of all
the companies that are so goodto us and good to our community.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
So we are hey 2025 we ready, we ready, we ready, we
ready.
So okay, so we had the leafthing answered, yes, anything
else, you.
If we don't have the answers toyour questions, we will find
somebody we will find that cananswer these all around the
world.
We know everybody yeah, he'stargeting questions.
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Well, I am so glad that thathas led to you having beautiful
grass.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
I can't wait to see it, that's not something I'm
going to say hey, I had my grassor my landscaping.
I didn't have that, but yes, heinspired me to take care of the
leaves because I got scared Isaid, oh my goodness, I have so
many leaves and my grass isdying.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
So hopefully, when the grass is supposed to be
green, it'll be green.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
So hopefully, when the grass is supposed to be
green and it'll be green.
I love it.
We will keep you updated onthat.
See, we have people that comeinto our yard, and so I don't
ever pay attention to our leaves.
I just see other peoplelaboring on a Saturday.
Anyways, that's where my mindtook me.
I'm so excited to be back,girls.
Speaker 3 (58:15):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
We going back to the word consistency, we have
promised each other that we willbe consistent and if one can't
come for whatever reason, two ofus will record, and if two of
us, then one of us.
So we're going to have events,we are going to be consistent,
we're going to come and conversehere, like we always do, and
share our lives with you, and Iam so happy to be back.
Speaker 3 (58:43):
Me too, so happy 25.
Happy Valentine's Day.
Happy Valentine's Day and.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
Shiny, you're going to end with the quote of the
week.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
Well, I thought that we could do one on love.
Since today is a loving day,give me a second here, because I
had out the Eckhart Tolle.
Is it Tolle?
Speaker 3 (59:08):
I love the spin that you guys put on Valentine's Day.
Like I woke up depressed thismorning.
I'm like I'm divorced.
What is Valentine's Day?
My oldest son is with his dadand I love that.
You guys put a really nice spinto it.
It doesn't have to be aboutromantic relationship.
It doesn't have to be anythinglike that.
My dad brought me flowers.
Speaker 1 (59:29):
She started crying.
I've realized throughout theyears that it's not just about
romantic love.
It's like tomorrow I'm going toa Valentine's Day party and
it's going to be fabulous and myfriend Tanika throws it.
I think it's been her thirdyear, but anyways, it's always
fun and it's women comingtogether and yeah, I love that
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and I answered that.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
Someone asked me today what are you doing today?
And I said I'm spending it withfriends, so I'm here right now,
and tonight I'm going toBotanical Gardens with my friend
, so I love it.
Yes.
So here, my quote today isabout love.
Love is nothing without action,trust is nothing without proof,
and sorry is nothing withoutchange.
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I love that.
I know that we've talked aboutlove a lot, so I just wanted
something that was clear,because I think Brie and I have
that in common of letting thingsgo and being too nice, and also
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I thought this quote wasperfect.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Thank you, shiny, and next week we will come back and
Shiny, it's going to be theShiny show, it is Highlight on
Shiny and she's going to, youknow, talk a little bit about
what's been going on in her lifeand why she hasn't talked about
it before now.
Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Okay, you're not going to want to miss it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Nope, it's going to be a good one.
It's going to be good.
Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Bye, everybody, to miss it?
Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Nope, it's going to be a good one.
It's going to be good.
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Welcome back, ladies.
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Hi, Hello, How's it going?
It's been a hot minute.
It's been like 84,000 years ithas been.
That's what it feels like I meanI know it's been like since
early November, but it feelslike a lifetime.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, we got our shit together now, so we're going to
be consistent yes and it's thenew year, it's 2025.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, we are going to thrive.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Happy thanksgiving, merry christmas, happy new year
and happy valentine's day and,as they add in the happy diwali,
happy kwanzaa there we go happyhanukkah happy hanukkah so many
things.
Yes, the other day, it was umthe lunar hug, a national
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alcoholic day.
Oh my gosh, tell that story Iwas.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I was in my kitchen cooking, right, I get a text
from Kaylin.
It's like 10 o'clock at night.
She's like hey has, have yougotten your hug today?
I'm like my hug.
I'm like do you mean?
She sends me a screenshot of agoogle holiday and it's like
happy, um hug.
It was hug, a national hug andalcoholic day.
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And she was like nobody huggedyou and I was like no, I feel
gypped my holiday.
I was cracking up.
She was like I was trying tofigure out why the neighbors
were setting off fireworks.
That's hilarious.
And I had.
We were seeing each othertomorrow.
So the next day she came up tome and she gave me a hug.
She was like here's youralcoholic hug.
I was like thanks.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I love it.
That's funny.
So how have we been Been good?
How's it going?
How's life treating everybody?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
It's got hands at times, man.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I mean we got we got to get into.
We'll get into it later andgive an update and a summary of
what the heck has been going on,but highlights and lowlights,
that's what we need to startwith Tell us Brie Highlights and
lowlights.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So my highlight would be that my divorce was
finalized in December.
So I am officially a divorceeand free of my marriage.
And the lowlights would just bejust trying to get in the swing
of things, trying to navigatebeing a single mom again.
When I was a single mom beforeI had one baby and one baby
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daddy and now I have two babiesand two baby daddies.
So just trying to navigate thatwith work, finances, everything
.
But I feel like I'm getting theswing of things.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I saw a video or reel last night.
I'm not sure if I sent it toyou, but I need to.
It was so cute.
It was a beautiful womansitting in a dark dining hall at
a restaurant and she lookedreally pretty and she's blowing
out the candles and thegentleman in the next table said
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oh, what are you celebrating?
Are you celebrating yourbirthday?
She goes no, I just gotdivorced.
I love it.
I love it.
I thought it was so fabulous.
She blew out her, her, her, youknow her candle and everybody
clapped and I just loved herenergy and I thought of you.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I love that.
My divorce is definitelysomething to be celebrated, and
we shall.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
We will we will.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So shiny hurdles highlights anything to share.
I know it's been a long time,so we can pick from a lot.
So what's going on?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
My highlights is that I got through two weddings my
brother-in-law got married inNovember in New York and my my
brother, got married in Floridain December and it wasn't one
was like the big Indian weddingand the other was everybody
wedding, but both were reallygreat and all the stress that
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comes along with it was, I think, I handled really well.
My journey has been long, butit's I'm, I'm, I'm good.
The journey is the destinationfor me.
Now I feel that I have all theequipment in my backpack to
handle whatever comes at me.
And uh, it was.
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It was smooth sailing and theholidays were were really cold
but really nice.
So that's my highlight and myhurdle was just the stuff that
did come with it, the stressthat did come with it.
There were some hurdles withfamily and I realized that my
family is not the only family.
It's complicated.
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I'm not alone.
So there's my H and H.
We'll leave it at that I loveit.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
We'll talk about the details later.
For me there have been sohurdles, hurdles.
Hurdles are more office related, where I have to realize that
not everybody thinks the way Ithink, feels the way I feel,
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communicates the way Icommunicate, does things the way
I want them to be done.
So that's been a strugglebecause I'm behind the scenes at
the office but I observe a lot,I'm very observant and just
learning to keep those emotionsin check and realize there's a
process to everything and Idon't have to interject myself
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into things.
I'm very protective of thatpractice because I have seen
Philip literally build it fromnothing to what it's become
today.
It's he we opened up thepractice in June of 2006.
So we are going on 19 years atbeing at that, at that practice,
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at that location.
So I'm very protective.
But, like he tells me all thetime, there's a process.
So you know it's, it's, it's a.
That's been the biggest hurdlethe past few months is just
keeping my emotions in checkwhen I see that things aren't
being done the way he expects itto be.
And yeah, anyways, I'll keep itat that because there's people
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from the office that listen tous.
I can't go into details but,yes, that's been a hurdle.
Highlights have been that we areall happy and healthy in the
Tally household.
Kaylin has.
I know it's only been a month,two months, that we've been in
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2025, but it has been atransformation.
She had had a few things thathappened at the beginning,
literally New Year's Eve, andit's like the blinders have come
off.
She's.
The energy has shifted for thepositive.
The energy has shifted for thepositive.
It's been so great to see hershine and blossom like she had a
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few years ago, and she'll admitthat she has been in a fog and
that she has been in a darkplace, and it's like she's
rejuvenated.
It's like a butterfly came outof the cocoon.
It's so great and so that's ahuge highlight and that's how we
started 2025 is with thistransformation.
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It's awesome.
I've been praying, praying,praying, praying.
Finally my prayers have beenanswered.
So, yeah, so happy for you.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, thank you Thank you.
Yeah, thank you, thank you,thank you.
Happy for you, happy for kaylin.
Yeah, she's such a specialperson and seeing her go through
some of the tough times was itwas tough.
As someone who loves her andlooks at her like a little
sister, it was tough.
But seeing her come out andjust be who she is and her
confidence and her glow and herhumor and her love and
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admiration for you and for dadhas just been.
It's been amazing to witness.
I'm so proud of her.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
She's had.
Yeah, I just, I just feel likeit's a new beginning for for her
.
It is, it's very exciting towatch, it's amazing.
Yeah, super excited about that.
So no complaints in the homefront.
Yeah, and I just, yeah, superexcited about that.
So no complaints in the homefront.
Yeah, and I just, I'm such aI've, I've always I've, I've
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learned that I'm also apessimist at heart, because when
anything that is like goingwell, I'm just like, okay, so
when?
When is it going to go shitty?
And obviously, hello, thingsare going to happen.
But it's like you can't, Ican't sit in it.
And that's one thing that Iwant to learn in this year,
cause every year I'm like, oh,this is the year that I'm going
to just be in the moment andjust enjoy it.
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And I do, but in the back of mymind, when is the shit going to
hit the fan?
And that's not healthy.
So I want to be Zen, enjoy it.
When shit hits the fan, we'rejust going to go through it and
learn the lessons.
And I say that outwardly, but Idon't always like, feel it deep
down in my spirit.
I want to embody it.
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I want and so that's what I'mworking on this year is.
Is that being in it and beingokay, instead of waiting for,
for, for the, the, for the shitto happen?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
so yeah, something that I'm I'm trying to um, live
and abide by.
Is that because I'm a naturallyI'm an anxious person and I
feel the same way, like whenthings are going well, you're
like, okay, when, when is shitgonna not go?
well, because you know it'sgonna happen, but you have to
think about it in a way.
If you live that way, you'regonna stress about something
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twice.
You're gonna stress about it ina way.
If you live that way, you'regoing to stress about something
twice.
You're going to stress about ittwice because in the good
moments you're stressing aboutOK, what's going to happen, and
then when does, when somethingdoes happen, you stress about it
again.
So there's no need to stressabout the same things twice.
And I'm saying that, but I'mgoing to go home and stress
about shit that's going tohappen five years from now.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So I love how we can say it, but we don't take our
own advice I was going to sayand I, this is where we're.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
We're all different.
Is that I?
I am hopeful to a fault,because you know my journey.
I've been in therapy for a longtime and I've had different
therapists.
And recently I was telling um afriend, a new friend, about
therapy and he made fun of me.
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He said you know, when you saidyou went to this therapist or
that therapist, it kind ofsounds I go like it sounds like
I'm crazy, and he goes.
He goes.
No, we don't say the C word.
I said okay.
I said well, I'm not.
And he said well, everybodydoes therapy now, so it's
normalized.
I said well, I hope so, becausethat's why I say it out loud,
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because culturally, as Asians,we we don't go to therapy and we
were taught not to ever talkabout things.
But what I was going to sayabout what you guys said is I
think of worrying like a rockingchair.
It's moving but it's not goinganywhere and it's just idle.
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And another to add to that iswe want to be present.
So being present would be thatbeing anxious is thinking of the
future, being sad was thinkingabout the past.
So in order to not be anxiousor depressed, we have to be like
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current, right now.
And how are we?
Right now we are fabulous, weare together, we are enjoying
the day of love and we have somuch to be thankful for we do.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Well, you are embodying the day of love today.
You have your big pink withgold trim heart earrings and you
have your multi.
It's like a.
It's a shirt that'smulticolored but lots of pinks.
Different, yeah, differentcolor of pinks, pink leggings
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pink lipstick shiny.
I will have to say yes, we werejust now recording today, but
we've all seen each otherthroughout the months and shiny
Her glow is like the other day.
We went and got tea and we'resitting outside and we're just,
you know, catching up and we'rejust talking.
She's just talking.
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I'm looking at her.
I'm like you're just sobeautiful.
I stopped her in midconversation.
I'm like you're so beautifulNot that I didn't think you were
beautiful before, but there'ssomething going on here.
It's, it's a glow, it's a light.
Oh girl, the glow up is real.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So, anyways, you, you , you look at really vibrant
today.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Thank you.
I I think there has been a hugeshift in my life, similar to
what Bree says, because BreeBree's really good about talking
about, um, not feeling worthyand not feeling enough, uh, and
and herself, uh, herself-confidence going down.
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I have struggled with that mywhole life and this time or this
phase of my life, uh, being amother is very different.
It's taxing, it's, it's tedious, it's I have a color coded
calendar.
I'm not like that.
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I'm not type A.
I think I actually piss type Apeople off.
I feel like I'm type EFG, lmnop,but I'm forced to be
responsible because I have twochildren that I have to be in
charge of.
Of course, they need my fullattention, guidance, support,
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love, all of it.
And it's also the time, thisphase of my life, where I've
struggled to make friends, somany things.
But on this journey, makingwonderful friends and having
really good books and being, Iguess, a researcher already and
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going, having the guts to go totherapy and get it, I'm always
like looking at classes andlectures, just I say I yearn to
learn, but just being that way,uh has helped me and having good
influences.
So I feel like, yes, I've, Ireally have started to shine
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from within.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And you can tell, and we'll get into that, not today,
but we are going to get intothe fact that there why there's
been a lot of change in yourlife, and that'll be next
episode.
So, yeah, stay tuned.
Yeah, so Shiny's ready to, yeah, to to to share what she feels
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like sharing and so that we canunderstand her journey a little
better.
Cause.
I call it, the evolution ofshiny.
I said there's been a wholeevolution.
We've known each other sincewhen did you move into the
neighborhood?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
We moved in 2016.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, so we were friends.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, we've been friends since 2016.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
And I've seen the evolution.
Oh, yes, you have, and we'regoing to find out why.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Absolutely, or I mean .
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Brianna, yes.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Absolutely, or I mean Brianna.
So you said that you gotdivorced officially.
Ultimately I'm feeling prettygood.
I am excited to.
The sad parts are mourningsomething that didn't exist
Right.
So, like in my, I have alwaysbeen coming from like a
traumatic childhood.
I've always been somebody whocraved like a family unit,
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craved a two parent householdfor my kids.
I wanted to be like that soccermom.
So with the divorce, thesadness was mourning something
that never existed.
I never had that with myex-husband.
We never had that in our home.
We never had true happinesstogether.
So I do feel like my divorce issomething we celebrated.
I feel like I'm free of it.
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I needed to go through thatexperience.
I got my beautiful son out ofit, but ultimately I feel like I
am getting all of my confidenceback.
I'm getting my self-worth back.
I feel pretty, I feel smart, Ifeel capable, I feel independent
for the most part, so it's beengood.
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The tough times are obviouslylike the financial burdens of
being a single parent to twokids, the tiredness that comes
along with.
You know.
I wake up at 5 am.
I have a toddler who stilldoesn't sleep through the night.
He gets up two or three times anight.
So I'm running on fumes mostday.
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I get up at 5 am and I go towork and then I come home, I
pick up both of my kids and thenI do dinner and bath time and
homework and I don't sit downand like truly have time for
Brianna until like 9, 30, 10o'clock at night.
So it's draining, it isgenuinely draining.
I don't remember the last timeI didn't feel tired, but that's
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just.
That's a part of life.
It comes with the territory.
I'm fortunate to be sober.
Um, in June I will have had thebeginning of June, I will have
had an entire year of sobriety,which we're going to celebrate
big, which I have.
I have not had true sobrietylike this from alcohol my entire
life.
I had my first drink when I waseight years old and then
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obviously alcohol took me down aterrifying path with a lot of
um, turmoil and, aside from mypregnancies, I have never gone
this long without alcohol, noteven a single drop.
I don't even even use Listerinewith alcohol in it anymore.
I mean, I have in the last ninemonths, but like I just, I've
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gone a single or I haven't had asingle drop of alcohol in so
long and that has never, ever,ever happened.
And with that I have so muchpride, because alcoholism is
hard, addiction is hard and I'mdoing the damn thing, so I feel
so much pride in that, so that'slike the biggest victory for me
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.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And the crazy thing is you know you and I have
talked about this has been thelast few months has been one of
the hardest and trying times foryou and the fact that you've
been able to do it withoutturning to alcohol as your
support system has been amazing.
So if you can get through theselast few months sober, that's a
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big deal.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, I think that's a good point.
I I've there, have been therehave been so many times that I
have just been like so sad, orlike hopeless or um, even times
like I'm throwing myself a pityparty and the old me would have,
even if I didn't go buy alcohol, I would have toyed with the
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idea like one, one drink and Ican turn my mind off.
One drink and I can stopfeeling this way.
I haven't even considered it, Ihave not even.
The only thoughts I have aroundalcohol are just proud, like
just pride.
I'm so proud that I haven'teven thought like one drink and
nobody will know.
You know, um, I really had tolearn how to play the tape all
the way through and I know whatone drink leads to and I'm
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really leaning into my supportsystem, which I mean you guys
have told me so many yearswhenever I was actively drinking
.
You guys have told me like, ifyou, if you feel like you're
going to drink, call us.
If you're feeling sad, call us.
If you feel this way, call us.
And I never did.
I would go buy alcohol and Ifeel like I'm getting a little
bit better about that.
Like you know, whenever I'm atmy lowest lows.
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You know, whenever I'm havinghard times like I really feel
like I'm leaning into my supportsystem, so that is like the
biggest.
Honestly, I get reallyemotional thinking about it.
It's such a huge accomplishmentand I feel really proud about
that.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So, yeah, and we were talking about how.
So now you're.
I don't know if we talked aboutit in our last show, about you
being back at the practice andhow it's been a big deal that
you've showed up to work andtell us about.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
So whenever I started working for Innovative Smiles,
it was in 2013.
I had I was literally straightout of high school.
I was a brand new mom.
I think Maddox was like sixweeks old when I started working
there.
I was literally straight out ofhigh school.
I was a brand new mom.
I think Maddox was like sixweeks old when I started working
there.
Um, I was so young, I knewnothing about dentistry.
I was a high school dropout.
I knew nothing.
When I started working at thepractice, I grew rapidly into my
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role.
Um, I was presenting all of thehigh end treatment plans.
You know, within a year or twoof me being there, I was
traveling the United States andteaching other people in
dentistry.
People who are older than mehave been doing it way longer
than me, longer than I had beenalive.
I was teaching them aboutdentistry and Invisalign and all
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of this stuff and I loved it.
I just felt like I was on topof the world at that time.
And then depression andalcoholism, the death of my
brother, like so many bad thingshappen, and I turned to alcohol
and, towards the end of mebeing at the practice, that I
would not show up for a week ata time I would no call, no show.
I we, and it has had to comeand physically drag me out of
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bed.
I'm not even joking, dragged meout of bed, I'm not even joking
.
Um, put my shoes on for me,like the end of my time at the
practice was such a dark time.
And so now I get up everysingle day, I do my devotionals
in the morning.
I have not missed a day of work.
I'm always on time.
I feel like I'm very consistent,I'm very dependable, um, which
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I was not in my active addiction, and I just it feels good to be
back.
There are some trying times,like personally and
professionally, the trying timesas far as like balancing being
a working single mom, balancingthe exhaustion that comes with
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that, the financial burden, youknow.
But I feel like every day I getup and I just do it and it
feels good and I genuinely lovewhat I do.
I love working at InnovativeSmiles.
I love working for my dad Icall Dr Talley dad.
I love working for him.
I love working for Leonette andI just, girl, you do not work
(23:20):
for me, I'm an employee justlike you.
No, the way I see it, my dad andLeonette are a unit, Nope nope,
nope, I've excommunicatedmyself from the duo.
Honestly, you two are a unit.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I stay in my lane, girl, I stay in my lane.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well, I feel like I work for my dad and Leonette.
But it doesn't matter how tiredI am, how sad I am, I get up
and I'm always there and I takea lot of pride in that and it
feels good to be dependable,especially somebody who was.
Well, we don't know if Briannais going to show up to work
tomorrow.
We can't get in touch withBrianna.
(23:58):
We don't know if Brianna isgoing to be where she says she
is, especially being thatversion of myself for um, so
many years, it feels really goodto be dependable.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Um, and yeah, I'm loving being and I'm sure it was
like so exhausting too, so likelying and pretending and you
know, I'm sure it wasn'tphysically good for you the
feeling that you had.
So 2025 is starting off great,it's funny.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
You say that when I was actively drinking, I lied
all the time about whether it beabout whether or not I drank
when I drank.
I mean, I lied all of the timeand yes, you are right, that is
exhausting.
Having to remember what you sayor what you did every day is
exhausting.
And then you trip yourself up,obviously because you can't
maintain that forever.
And then I was actually tellingLeonette the other day.
(24:47):
There are days that I get up andI you know, axel was up two
hours of the night and I'mstanding in the shower and I'm
like I don't know how I can dothis today.
I'm too tired to go to work,like I don't know how to.
But then I take myself back to.
There were days that I got upand I was still drunk and I was
in the shower trying to getready for work.
(25:08):
There were days that I got upand I had to pull over on the
side of the road to throw upbefore I got to work.
There are days that I got up togo to work and I had to stop at
a gas station or a restaurantand buy a mini bottle of wine in
order to be able to walk intowork.
So whenever I'm feeling thosemoments of exhaustion or like,
um, just you know, being tired,I'm like shit, I can do this.
If I could do that, I can dothis.
(25:29):
This is easy stuff.
So, yeah, I just I'm filledwith gratitude about that we're
proud of you.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
2025 is on fire.
Um, I think for me, the pastfew months a lot of hibernating.
We've gotten a lot of snow herein Georgia, cold nights, cold
days, a few snow days where wehad to stay bunkered up, and
people in the north don'tunderstand us people in the
south, but it is what it is.
(25:56):
I think the biggest thing is mewanting to be more, like I said
you know earlier more zen, morepresent, and I think I've been
working really hard on that Notnot getting so emotional.
And the Kaylin thing has beenvery major.
(26:17):
Christmas was just the five ofus.
New Year's was just the five ofus, so it's been.
It was a good way to start offthe year and end the year where
it's just us instead of the fourof us and Kaylin somewhere else
.
It's been, it was the five ofus and yeah, so 2025 is looking
good.
I if you all, if you all don'tknow, if you haven't listened to
(26:39):
every single show or podcastthe past four years with Kaylin
have been very, very hard withyou know.
I think we all go through it.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I've been those who who aren't listening to every
episode.
Can you tell us who Kaylin is?
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
If you don't know who Kaylin is, she is my 23 year
old child and if you seepictures of me, you'd be like
what do you mean?
You have a 23 year old child.
It's true, she'll be 24 inMarch and when she went off to
college, it was like the worldwas her oyster, like she was
(27:17):
like ready to conquer the world.
And then, as we all know, 2020came along and COVID hit and she
had to come home from schoolbecause everything was shut down
and that following year theywere still not on campus.
So she took a year off and shejust went into this dark
depression, just dark.
I was the enemy, phillip wasthe enemy.
(27:39):
My husband was the enemy, likeeveryone's the enemy.
The only person that she clungto was the enemy.
Philip was the enemy.
My husband was the enemy, likeeveryone's the enemy.
The only person that she clungto was her boyfriend, and I
don't know, in my personalopinion, if that was the best
thing for her.
But what do I know?
I'm just a mother and justobserving, but it was.
It is a lot.
I don't have to go througheverything.
You go find the episodes.
There was a lot that happenedand I tried so many different
(28:03):
things.
I tried the listening ear anddon't say your opinion and be
quiet.
And my natural instinct is totell you how I feel.
Give my opinion, take it orleave it.
That's me opinion.
Take it or leave it, that's me.
You don't have to at this point.
She's 24 years old.
(28:23):
Take it or leave it.
This is your life.
I'm here to guide you at thispoint.
It's not my life.
I already lived my life.
I already went through mydepression.
I already went through my darkplace.
All I can tell you is like howI came out of it and and.
But everyone's journey isdifferent and I literally and I
think I've said this before isI've literally for my faith.
(28:45):
I believe in God and I think,as parents, we want to cling on
to our kids and we are the end,all be all.
And then I have to realize,from a place of my faith and my
and my relationship with God isthat like, yes, she was given to
me to nurture and guide, butthat this is his child, like
this is between you and him andGod, this is your girl.
(29:07):
So you, you work out whateveryou need to work out with her,
and I've had to come to thatrealization that I love her.
I adore her Not just her, likeall three of my kids, but God
has a journey for all of us,including our kids.
We don't want to see themsuffer, we don't want to see
them hurt.
We don't want to see them inpain.
However, how have we've grownas people is?
(29:27):
Through the shit, the muck, andit's horrible to be in that
state, but I had to realize thatthis is how she's going to
learn and grow in her journey asa person.
And so she got know, she gotbroken up with I don't know if
I'm allowed to say that, sorry,I'll ask for forgiveness later.
She got broken up with on NewYear's Eve and with a boyfriend
(29:52):
that she was with for what?
Three years, almost four years,and but something happened in
the process of that happening.
Yes, it was sad, but it's likeblinders came off, and I'm not
saying he was the cause I don'teven want people to think that
he was the cause of her beingdepressed.
(30:12):
That's not it.
I'm not saying that.
But I think, in him breaking up, I think it forced her to look
at her life for the very firsttime.
I don't I mean I shouldn't sayshe wasn't looking at it because
I can't be in her, in her brain, but I can tell, like right now
, that she's looking at what shewants and what she needs out of
(30:34):
life.
And in the month and a halfbecause New Year's Eve was what
a few days, a few weeks ago it'sbeen a shift where the blinders
are off, the positivity is back, the how she views herself.
You can tell that she is caringabout herself and how she
(30:58):
presents herself to the world.
So it it's been, it's yeah,it's been good, it's been good
to see.
So that's been the biggestthing that has happened in in
our lives and in my life.
That's affected me and I justpray that we continue on this
journey and, like I've told her,shit's going to happen and
right now you're feeling goodand everything's great and we're
(31:22):
getting back on track with justeven something as small as her
engaging with us, like we usedto all hang out and watch movies
together or play games, andshe's literally been absent from
for a lot of that.
If we're going to be honest andnot because we wanted to, it's
just because I'm not going toforce someone, including my kids
, to be a part of something thatthey don't want to be a part of
(31:44):
, and so with her and she's anadult, legally she's an adult.
I'm not forcing her to playgames with us, I'm not forcing
her to show up to a family event.
That's your choice.
And so there's been someisolation.
That's happened and just I knowthis sounds so basic, but just
her coming down to the basementand looking for me so that she
can tell me something, or we'reall gathered out on the deck and
(32:08):
she's out on the deck engagedin conversation.
That's how it was before.
That's not how it's been thelast four months.
So me saying that sounds sosimple, but even that has been
such a big, big, big deal.
And, like the four of us, me,shiny, brianna and Kaylin went
(32:30):
to an arts.
We had an arts evening and wepainted and Kaylin's an artist
and that's what she went toschool for writing, but she can
also draw and she loves thatworld of art.
So you know, we invited her andit was wonderful.
Like maybe in the past shewould have said yes or maybe she
would.
Most of the time she said no,she didn't want to be a part of
(32:50):
something, and it was so great.
So, seeing the engagement, herhanging out with friends, her
going out, she's working, soanyways, it's been great.
I'm sure there's all smallthings going on, but that's the
biggest one and me needing to bemore Zen and I said that to a
(33:11):
friend.
They're like what does thatmean?
And I'm like I don't know.
Like do you ever see someonethat does yoga and meditates?
And they just walk around andthey have this lightness about
them, like they don't give twoF's about what's happening in a
route.
Then they're just.
They're just in their own world.
Yes, yes, and so that's what Iwant to embody.
I want to walk in.
I mean, I'm still going to beloud, leonette, and you know,
(33:34):
passionate, look at me typeperson, but to like walk in a
room and get that Zen factor,that's what I want this year.
So please help me and be inthat person.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
That's so awesome, Leonette, I think.
I think you're well on your way.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well, thank you, I have been doing the yoga and I
have been doing the meditation.
So that's step one and two.
So we'll see.
We'll see what happens with therest.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
So Just don't become too zen.
I you know, I don't thinkthat's even possible.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, that's not even possible.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
One of the most like contagious people, like your
energy and everything.
I think that's what people loveabout you is.
You are.
I don't know how you seeyourself, but how I see you and
what I feel like a lot of peoplesee you as is.
You are just the type of personthat you walk in the room and
you, like everybody, gravitatesto you, like you light up the
room.
I genuinely feel that way.
You don't give a shit whatpeople think you say, what's on
(34:30):
your mind.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
That, to me, is I mean, I do care a little bit
what people think I do.
We all deep down care.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Well, yeah, she brings the fun.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
It doesn't matter who you're with.
I've known you for so long andI've seen you around so many
different types of people.
It doesn't matter who you'rewith.
If we're at church, if we arewith family, if we are out
painting, you're always the sameperson, and I love that.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Well, I will promise you this I can't become too zen
like I don't think it's even inmy dna.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
I get what you're saying like maybe internally
like you just want to feel peaceor like, embody that, or um,
bring, bring that zen factor tothe people around you.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
But I think that's and not just that, just in
reading different books aboutemotions and then talking to
shiny, who's done a lot oftherapy, and we talk about
emotions and and a lot of ouremotions.
That's not the main thing.
There's always like if you'reangry, there's a hidden meaning
for that.
That's not manifest in anger,but just understanding that and
(35:35):
keeping and keeping that in myforefront Cause I am a very
passionate person.
I have big emotionsunderstanding where those
emotions come from and lettingmyself have the emotions but
then backing off and realizingokay, what can I do differently?
Yes, I'm angry right now.
I vented, like we've had somevent sessions about certain
(35:57):
things, just a little bit.
But venting and understanding.
Okay, I vented, but I don'twant to live there Like what can
I do with this?
What can I control?
And so that's what I mean bybeing Zen and understanding
instead of allowing the emotionsto take me away.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
May I read something and say something on everything
that you said?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Please.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I love your wisdom shiny Please.
Well, I said I yearn to learn,so I one thing was and this is
also with Bree is Bree keptsaying consistent.
And I want to tell you thatconsistency is such an
attractive quality because DrShefali says we're all living
(36:45):
patterns, we're all we're notliving life.
And to truly live life, we haveto live present.
And by you being, you know,consistency is key because
change is possible and that'swhat that I know you like, I've
seen you, you know you saidEaster, which was years ago,
(37:23):
that was a very random invite,and I just it was spontaneous,
and I said hey, do you want tojust come over for lunch?
I had made a bunch of food andLeonette's like yeah, but can I
bring this person and thisperson?
And you know she's like I'mlike yeah, bring everybody.
So I liked you, you know, right, right away.
But you, you're, you're, you'realso, you know, growing and
(37:47):
changing and learning.
It's, it's wonderful, thank you.
Yeah, it's great.
And, leonette, I wanted to readsomething by Eckhart Tolle.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Oh Tolle.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Tolle yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
He wrote the Power of Now right.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yes, well, he's written many books, but Power of
Now, right now, oprah's, Ithink, made a comeback to talk
about it again because shereally wants people to read it.
I think it was written likeages ago, but I wrote something
down that he said, or wrote isawareness is the greatest agents
for change, and I was thinkingabout what you said.
Awareness means presence, andonly presence can dissolve the
(38:30):
unconscious past in you.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Everything that you were saying, I just immediately
was drawn.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
See, I could be Eckhart Tolle's assistant no.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Oh, my goodness, you just reminded me of something,
really something goofy I did.
Okay, I have to confess.
Okay, make it juicy.
So you know Instagram, we allhave Instagram.
I started mine.
I wasn't a big social mediaperson, I didn't.
I don't think I was very goodat having a social media
(39:06):
presence.
I still barely have one.
But you know, I can continue tolearn.
I have had people slide whenthey call a slide into your DMS
and I've had that happen to meover the over the years.
You know people you know eitherare selling me something or
selling themselves, who knows?
So I follow and listen to SimonSinek.
(39:29):
Do you know who that is?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
I never heard of him Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Well, he's, I think he's pretty incredible, but he
is his.
I think his, his business orhis, his company is called the
happiness project, or positivity.
He is a very like happinesspromoter, uh, positive, like, so
(39:54):
much so that I love everything.
He says about being on yourphones and, you know, not seeing
the beauty, not looking up atall the beauty around you, it
just you just continue to fallinto it.
And he also talks aboutsurrounding yourself with good
friendships and how muchconnection, you know, means to
(40:17):
all of us our health, ourlongevity, our, our joy.
So I've looked him up and andand thought, oh, you know, I
would love to work for someonelike him.
So finally, I I did somethingspontaneous and out of the
ordinary and I DM'd him, him,and I just said you know, I'm,
(40:47):
I'm a regular, Jane Um, and Ijust think that everything that
you say and and that you're the,the happiness and joy you're
spreading and is wonderful.
And if I had the opportunity towork for you, I would.
It would be wonderful, or Ihaven't heard back.
Well, first, of all.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
First of all, who cares?
This is how this is how thingshappen, is when you take
initiative.
So even if he doesn't respondtoday, send him another DM
because I honestly feel thatthis is how, like this, is how
things happen, and you would beperfect for that.
(41:24):
You are a walking happiness.
I know that you say, oh well,my life this or my life that,
but what you portray to theworld without knowing what's
going on behind the scenes?
You portray happiness andsmiley, and and that's that.
You would be perfect.
(41:45):
You would Thank you andhappiness, and if he doesn't
contact you, you start your ownhappiness.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
What is it called Happiness project?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, you start your own happiness project, darn it.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Well, thank, thank you for saying I I.
I agree, you're right.
I definitely try to put my bestfoot forward and see the best
of my day Half cup, half full.
I'm not a pessimist or askeptic and always believe in
the best in people and I hopefulto a fall.
(42:16):
So it does.
That's why I've gotten hurt andhurt more.
They say they're really nicePeople get hurt the most, but
it's because and I've, I thinkI've said this before, but I
it's it's going through reallyhard stuff that makes you not
take things for granted.
(42:37):
And I'll say that it isn'thappy people that are grateful,
it is grateful people that arehappy.
And secondly, I'll say that itwas because I was in the dark
that I seek the light.
And I think I am the way I am.
(42:58):
And because that's I, I have tolive with intention every day to
make the best of my day.
And if I can even spread it andif it's contagious, even better
, because being sad or beingworried or being depressed are
very normal feelings, but I canchoose to regulate them as soon
(43:22):
as possible and keep movingforward.
So that's, I guess, my littlesuperpower.
And I have to say I'm not alone.
I think that I have.
I have to surround myself withfriends that also want that for
me.
They don't have to be me, butjust want that for me.
(43:44):
And I also think that they alsohave to be confident in
themselves and and recognizethat shiny is happy and I love
that and I want to be happy too,and let's all both be happy
instead of trying to bring medown, cause I also attract
certain type of people who justdon't like it or it.
(44:04):
This is a good one.
My spirit irritates theirdemons.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
I love, I love that quote.
I've seen that before and it'strue.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
I've never seen that.
I love that.
Yes, and it is.
I think that that is so trueabout me because I do have my
haters.
I really do.
They are.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Because you are a very happy person, Like your
name literally fits yourpersonality.
You are very shiny and verysunshine, and people that don't
have that within them I couldthat would be irritating, Like
why is she so happy?
What's she so happy for?
And if they're in a place ofnot feeling that internally,
(44:55):
they don't know how toappreciate that.
I think it's beautiful.
I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I think it's great you know what the truth is, and
this is probably a secret thatnot everybody knows, and I
didn't know.
I used to think that yourpartner or your kids or someone
else, or your job or a vacation,that is where my happiness lies
and that's where I'm going toget it from, like when I go on
(45:21):
this vacation, or if my spouseis so super loving towards me or
if my kids do this.
But, truthfully, the changethat I needed to make and
recognize after I recognized andrealized it, cause it does take
time was happiness comes fromwithin me and that is why the
(45:42):
haters can't get it.
They want, they may want, to beclose to me at first because
they think, okay, I want to getsome of that, but dimming my
light isn't going to make yoursshine brighter, nope.
And those that do do that to me, cause you do.
There are those people who dothat.
(46:05):
I recognize in also in them orrealize that it's not about me.
They're her people, her peoplethat saying, and it's not my job
to show them where it is, andit's not my job to show them
where it is.
It's not my job to teach themor give them, you know, my joy,
(46:29):
soak mine all up so that I don'thave any left.
So that is a huge change for meas well is to only surround
myself and that my time isprecious.
Like yesterday, I canceled allmy plans and some of them were
with people, and I felt okayabout it and that is a huge
thing for me, recognizing myworth, that my time is precious
and who I spend it with.
(46:50):
Matters and I think that isanother thing about me is that I
think I see so much in peoplethat I'm friends with or getting
close to or want to be close to, is I see so much in people
that I'm friends with or orgetting close to or want to be
close to, is I see all theirbeauty and all the potential
that they don't may see, and Iencourage it and I build it up.
(47:11):
And if you can be confident ofthat, then we we are just going
to soar together because that'sand that's what you're doing,
leonette, like you're bringingall of us together as us women
and we are all different andbuilding us all up, and I am all
about that, oh well, I meanhonestly, that was the whole
(47:35):
point of this podcast.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I didn't know what I wanted out of this podcast.
I didn't know what I wanted outof this podcast.
I didn't know what I was goingto name it.
I just knew that, withdifferent women that I would
have conversations with, that,we all have something in common
and I feel like in today's world, in today's society, that we
think we're having to live lifeby ourselves and that we're the
(47:59):
only ones going through that andno one can understand these
emotions and no one canunderstand my background and no
one can understand my present ormy future, and that they're
living life alone.
And then I'm like, okay, well,this person's going through that
.
And they don't even realizethat this person over here is
literally going through the samething.
And the reason is is because wejust see each other at the store
or see each other hey, how's itgoing?
(48:26):
Everything's great.
Oh, I'm well.
Okay, we're BSing each other.
And then we're never going toknow that we can learn from each
other.
When you become vulnerable andsay this is what I'm going
through, the other person can belike holy shit, I went through
that or I'm going through that.
And then you come together tohelp each other out and realize
that you're not doing life byyourself.
(48:46):
So that was the beauty ofcoming like for me doing the
podcast, so that we can shareour stories and realize I'm not
the only one going through thisor I won't be the last either.
So, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
That's it's sometimes it can even almost seem like
taboo.
If you're a woman, if you're amother, if you're a wife, it's
some some of the things that arereally hard we don't talk about
, like there are things inmotherhood that are really hard,
and that's something that Ireally appreciate about the two
of you, and the space that thethree of us have created is like
(49:24):
we don't have to pretend likewe're perfect moms.
We don't have to pretend thatour kids are not exhausting.
We don't have to pretend thatour husbands don't get on our
nerves ex-husbands, you know,there's no pretending.
Life is fucking hard and all ofthat is so hard and I just this
space that Liana has created forus is such a special place
(49:45):
because it's so authentic, it'sso real and you're right Like
somebody else may be goingthrough a divorce, somebody else
may be co-parenting, somebodyelse may have depression or have
a daughter that they'restruggling with, and but we
don't talk about it because wefeel like we're going to be
judged, we feel like it's goingto make us look like a bad mom
or a bad wife or a bad person.
(50:05):
So I think this space ishonestly such a beautiful thing
to just be able to be real andopen and it makes you feel
better and seen and heard.
So that's my two cents.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Well, thank you for sharing that.
No, but that can lead into whatwe want to see for this coming
year and for the future.
You know we were talking aboutI know last year I didn't do
anything.
I didn't.
I didn't last year was veryheavy and emotional, so we
recorded, but as far as likecoming together and having
events, that was off the table.
(50:39):
But in 2023, I'm like, okay,let's bring the podcast in
person and let's let's createthis environment where we can
learn and grow together.
And you know I did a few things.
But now this year we want toquarterly and then maybe
eventually monthly.
But you know we'll start offsmall.
You know what were some of thethings that we're talking about,
shiny, that we wanted to do?
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Well, I mentioned that my home, that I would love,
as a Virago event, to hostdinner and dialogue series where
we talk about really importanttopics for all of us and learn
together, grow together andshare, break bread together also
(51:22):
you know, and there's so manydifferent topics and so many
different things.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
I mean there's like fitness stuff, or there's
wellness, or there's spiritual,mind, physical, and depending on
what you are needing at thatmoment in your life, I want to
start providing events that youknow somebody may not need the
emotional stuff, maybe they'realready there, but they want to
(51:47):
show up to the physical fit.
I mean, I don't know, I have awhole list and we haven't talked
about it, but exactly what wewant to do this year.
But we will start announcingthese certain events and we'll
we want it to keep it limitedfor this year so that it's more
intimate and maybe in the futureit can just get bigger.
(52:07):
But we want to start off small.
So that is the goal is we'retalking about it and now we want
to be about it in person andlike connect and connect you
with other people and theirfriends and their friends.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Where can we find information on this?
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Leonette.
Well, that's a good question,shiny, because I'm an amateur.
Right now.
I'm still learning and growing.
I do have a website and I haveto do something with that
website.
Right now it's there.
I did it myself.
Maybe one day I'll have aprofessional web designer, you
know, spruce it up, but I'mgoing to start posting.
(52:43):
I need to start posting more.
To be honest with you, I dohave my Virago page on Instagram
and Facebook.
How?
Speaker 2 (52:50):
do you spell Virago?
Speaker 1 (52:51):
V-I-R-A-G-O.
Virago, which means warrior,women warrior, and 24-7, is
where you can find each of them.
They're exactly the same.
So Instagram and Facebook, butI'll start posting more on that
on those two platforms.
And then my website isVirago247.net.
(53:17):
So Virago247.net.
There's a way to communicate onthere too.
I don't know how to look up,like if you're doing reviews on
Apple, or I don't even know howto do it on Spotify.
I may not ever see those.
So if you have any questions,thoughts, comments,
virago247.net there's a way tocontact and I get the email, or
(53:41):
just on the platforms.
So we want, because we have asegment called the virago vault
and on the virago vault we wantto answer questions and and
engage with you guys.
So we want, want, wantquestions.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Yeah, we welcome.
We welcome, we welcome yourfeedback, your questions, your
support.
We want it all.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Sorry, guys, someone's cutting grass in the
background.
So if you hear that buzzingsound, one day I was telling the
girls, one day we're going tohave our own studio and it's
going to be soundproof, but forright now this is what you guys
are getting.
We're getting the personcutting freaking grass in the
background.
(54:24):
But go ahead.
Yes, so more engagement thisyear and for our Virago vault.
There is one important questionthat we had answered.
So if you listened to lastepisode, my question was
speaking of that blower in thebackground.
Why do people rake their leaves?
I understand the blower.
(54:45):
Oh, it's gone.
Okay, they went far away.
I understand the blower.
I get that all day long becauseit's but the raking and then
the putting it in the bags.
So after we recorded thatepisode, philip my husband was
upstairs with his guy group andour fellow Mexican friend,
justin.
(55:05):
He's been on the podcast manytimes and he helps with the
editing of the show, but we wentup there.
I was like, yeah, so what's upwith people raking their leaves?
And what did he say?
He he's like as I can answerthis, since I'm mexican, this is
what I can answer.
He said that the reason isthere's certain grass that can
(55:29):
die or get killed or get brownedor something from the leaves
all the types of grass heliterally started naming
different yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
I'm Mexican.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
First of all, he's never worked a day in his life
in landscaping Right, but it iskind of funny.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
It is really funny, because the grass that he
mentioned I didn't say anything,I just kept quiet is my grass,
yeah, and immediately I hiredsomebody, like about a week
after.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Really, he absolutely influenced me.
He I wish I could remember thename.
I think I have the grass Fescue.
I have the grass Because theleaves were killing him.
The leaves would kill and itmakes so much sense because I'm
I feel like my house has theshitty grass.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
So there's no stupid question.
See, I brought this.
So the Virago vault, anyquestion.
There are no stupid questions,there's nothing off limits.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Even something silly.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Even something as silly as why do people rake
their grass?
And now Shiny has beautiful,soon to be grass, yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
So I hired.
I went to Thumbtack and I hireda company and I even bargained
to get a better price and andnow they've been coming monthly.
I'm really happy with them.
I think they're called Big PineLandscaping.
Sponsor us, and I would saythat is also a future dream for
(56:59):
us we need sponsors.
We are happy to promote andspread all the good news of all
the companies that are so goodto us and good to our community.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
So we are hey 2025 we ready, we ready, we ready, we
ready.
So okay, so we had the leafthing answered, yes, anything
else, you.
If we don't have the answers toyour questions, we will find
somebody we will find that cananswer these all around the
world.
We know everybody yeah, he'stargeting questions.
(57:31):
Well, I am so glad that thathas led to you having beautiful
grass.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
I can't wait to see it, that's not something I'm
going to say hey, I had my grassor my landscaping.
I didn't have that, but yes, heinspired me to take care of the
leaves because I got scared Isaid, oh my goodness, I have so
many leaves and my grass isdying.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
So hopefully, when the grass is supposed to be
green, it'll be green.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
So hopefully, when the grass is supposed to be
green and it'll be green.
I love it.
We will keep you updated onthat.
See, we have people that comeinto our yard, and so I don't
ever pay attention to our leaves.
I just see other peoplelaboring on a Saturday.
Anyways, that's where my mindtook me.
I'm so excited to be back,girls.
Speaker 3 (58:15):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
We going back to the word consistency, we have
promised each other that we willbe consistent and if one can't
come for whatever reason, two ofus will record, and if two of
us, then one of us.
So we're going to have events,we are going to be consistent,
we're going to come and conversehere, like we always do, and
share our lives with you, and Iam so happy to be back.
Speaker 3 (58:43):
Me too, so happy 25.
Happy Valentine's Day.
Happy Valentine's Day and.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
Shiny, you're going to end with the quote of the
week.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
Well, I thought that we could do one on love.
Since today is a loving day,give me a second here, because I
had out the Eckhart Tolle.
Is it Tolle?
Speaker 3 (59:08):
I love the spin that you guys put on Valentine's Day.
Like I woke up depressed thismorning.
I'm like I'm divorced.
What is Valentine's Day?
My oldest son is with his dadand I love that.
You guys put a really nice spinto it.
It doesn't have to be aboutromantic relationship.
It doesn't have to be anythinglike that.
My dad brought me flowers.
Speaker 1 (59:29):
She started crying.
I've realized throughout theyears that it's not just about
romantic love.
It's like tomorrow I'm going toa Valentine's Day party and
it's going to be fabulous and myfriend Tanika throws it.
I think it's been her thirdyear, but anyways, it's always
fun and it's women comingtogether and yeah, I love that
(59:49):
and I answered that.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
Someone asked me today what are you doing today?
And I said I'm spending it withfriends, so I'm here right now,
and tonight I'm going toBotanical Gardens with my friend
, so I love it.
Yes.
So here, my quote today isabout love.
Love is nothing without action,trust is nothing without proof,
and sorry is nothing withoutchange.
(01:00:13):
I love that.
I know that we've talked aboutlove a lot, so I just wanted
something that was clear,because I think Brie and I have
that in common of letting thingsgo and being too nice, and also
(01:00:33):
I thought this quote wasperfect.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Thank you, shiny, and next week we will come back and
Shiny, it's going to be theShiny show, it is Highlight on
Shiny and she's going to, youknow, talk a little bit about
what's been going on in her lifeand why she hasn't talked about
it before now.
Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Okay, you're not going to want to miss it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Nope, it's going to be a good one.
It's going to be good.
Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Bye, everybody, to miss it?
Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Nope, it's going to be a good one.
It's going to be good.
Bye, everybody, bye, thank you.
Thanks for listening.
Thank you so much for listeningto Virago 24-7.
If you haven't done so already,go ahead and hit that subscribe
button and please give us fivestar ratings.
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