October 5, 2024 • 43 mins
Have you ever wondered what it takes to turn a potential 10-year prison sentence into an inspiring story of transformation? Join us as we share a personal account of incredible journey through the demanding drug court program, a life-changing experience that tested resilience and strength. Witness a triumphant graduation, which brings home the profound impact of accountability, support, and second chances in shaping a new path toward a healthier and happier life.
Tragedy struck at a courthouse in Griffin, Georgia, where an unexpected shooting shocked a community and sparked a conversation about safety that extends beyond the courtroom. We'll navigate the emotional aftermath and discuss the urgent need for effective, practical solutions to ensure the safety of our schools and communities.
Then, indulge in a spirited chat where we embrace the lighter side of life, from the art of customizing Starbucks orders to the empowering journey of female bonding and body positivity. Discover the joy in spontaneous conversations filled with laughter, fashion mishaps, and the celebration of beauty at every size. We wrap up with an invitation to connect with our community, share your stories, and keep these heartfelt discussions alive. Whether you're seeking inspiration or a moment of genuine connection, this episode promises to offer both in abundance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Last week on Brago 24-7.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Read some of your pieces at open mic night.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
But no, this is since we're talking about being open
and we're making changes.
So her mom just graduated fromwhat did we call it Drug court.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Okay, explain what it is Cause.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I was.
I was invited and we went.
What was it?
Friday?
Friday morning.
There's a lot of drama thatwent with it, but we'll start
with the positive.
Hi, I am your host, leonetteTalley, and you are listening to
Virago 24-7.
Virago is Latin for femalewarrior and 24-7 is for all day,
every day.
(00:44):
Virago 24-7 is a weekly podcastthat brings diverse women
together to talk about life andour experiences in this world.
We share our views on self-love, mental health, marriage,
children, friendships and reallyanything that needs to be
talked about.
Here you will find everydaygrowth, everyday healing with
everyday warriors.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
So my mom it was.
So there's been several timesmy I don't know how many times,
but my mom has been arrested,but I think she has 39 felonies,
so a lot.
And there's been several timesover the course of I don't know
25, 30 years that they've talkedabout this drug court program.
But my mom never thought thatshe would be able to complete it
(01:36):
.
Nobody ever thought that shewould be able to complete it, or
even the court thought that shewas too sick to enter the
program.
The court thought that she wastoo sick to enter the program.
So essentially what it is isit's a two-year program and you
are heavily, heavily monitored.
So they have the.
They track your locationanywhere you go.
They have to track it.
The courts do.
You have to wake up at everymorning at 5 am to take a drug
(01:59):
test.
You have to go to so many AA orNA meetings a week.
You have to do so many therapysessions a week, so many there's
another kind of meeting thatyou have to do.
It is just such a heavilymonitored program.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And we saw so, like Shiny they had.
So we walk in the courtroombecause there's a bunch of
there's a bunch of people in theprogram, so there was two that
graduated, your mom and anotherlady, and then the rest were
there.
They go every two weeks.
Your mom said it's every Friday.
Every Friday, they go Every twoweeks.
I think she said it could beevery week or every two weeks,
it's either every Friday orevery other Friday and they have
(02:33):
to go in front of the samejudge every month.
Yes, and the therapists reportto him.
So he had like handcuff one ofthe girls because she's not
following what.
She missed a few meetings orsomething like that.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You miss a drug test, or you fail a drug test, or one
guy got in trouble for takingDayQuil.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yes, yep For taking DayQuil, because they have to
ask If you put anything in yourbody?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Ask.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yes, if you put anything in your body, even
over-the-counter prescriptionsor anything like that, you have
to get permission prior to doingso, and so he was either
putting them on house arrest.
You can't drink energy drinks.
Oh wow, you can't vape.
I mean it is such a strictprogram and she did it for two
years.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, about two years ago she was facing.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I think she was facing like 10 years prison time
and it was either she go toprison for 10 years or she do
this drug court program.
And I'll never forget my momcalled me and she's like I'm
going into drug court and I'mlike peace, I'll see you in 10,
because I did not for a secondthink that she was going to be
able to complete it.
I never in a million years I'mso thankful and glad and I had
(03:41):
actually.
No, I was completely hopeless,like I did not have any faith in
her.
Just because it was.
It was such a pattern over thepast 30 years Like um, but she
did, she thrived and she lookshealthier.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
She looks so healthy Blowing.
I have chills.
I know, me too.
I just got chills.
I thought I was cold in here,but it was so cool because so
they went through each personand they had to get in front of
the judge and he he's so eventhe ones that he was
disappointed in.
You know, they have to askabout what they.
He asked them about theirstruggles and you know what was
a obstacle this this week.
(04:16):
And so you know yeah he keptasking about the toolbox Are you
using the tools from yourtoolbox?
So it was very nice.
I was like, wow, I didn't knowit existed.
Bree said that it's been aroundforever.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Oh, it's been around forever for as long as I can
remember.
It just was very like wow.
And it's not something like youhave to qualify to get into the
program as well.
It's not something that you dodrugs so you can get in this
program.
They have to look at thestatistics of whether or not
you'll be able to complete it.
So it's pretty muchrehabilitation so that they
don't go to prison.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It is Because it's either you do this program or
you're in prison or you go toprison.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
There's like no other choice.
They revoke your parole, theyrevoke your probation, they
revoke your house or whateverthe case may be, and you finish
your time in prison.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
And my mom was facing like 10 years.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So she was standing up there with her diploma and
pretty much every person that'sstill in the program stood up
and said great things about her.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
It was, it was, it was, it was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
We're crying, crying, boohoo tears.
It was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
As her daughter.
Like I, obviously I love theshit out of my mom and she you
know but there's been so manytimes just to be fully
transparent that she hasdisappointed the shit out of me
and she's hurt me and she's letme down and I lost that like um
maternal view of my mom.
I lost all respect for my mom.
I lost all of these things thatmakes a mother a mother for my
(05:45):
mom, and so to and I've, youknow, slowly gained them back
over the first or, you know,over the last two years, and so
to see all of these other peoplestand up and say all of these
things about my mom and how howwonderful she is and how much
they respect her and how muchshe helped, them.
It was insane, it was.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Everybody was crying yeah.
Then it was insane.
It was.
Everybody was crying, yeah, itwas, it was beautiful, and you
stood up and you said somebeautiful things.
It was, and then somethingtragic happened.
So so we're all up there, youknow, saying all these praises
to your mom and and you just had, you just gave a beautiful
speech and literally you'll takeit from here, bree, but we're
(06:25):
in Griffin Georgia.
For anybody that knows GriffinGeorgia, it's a very small town.
Like we're driving through.
I'm like we need to leave assoon as this is done.
Yeah, because it's just apodunk little town.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's sketchy for sure , and it's not that it's like,
it's just old, it just lookslike it's been there.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, and country like just what you've envisioned
a small southern town.
So we, so we're in.
So we're literally in themiddle of this small town in
their little courthouse praisingbrie's mom and all her
accomplishments, and then wehear, yeah, and at first exactly
(07:08):
what it sounds.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, and so so we hear that.
And so who went it was?
It was my mom, obviously.
It was Leonette, it was Mushka,which is my grandmother, and
Tidon, which is my aunt, and myson Maddox, my oldest son, um,
and your mom's girlfriend and mymom's girlfriend and we were
kind of like sketched out whenwe first got there, like we were
talking about the town on theway to the courthouse.
(07:29):
Yeah, anyway, so my mom'sgiving her, like my mom's
talking now, or my mom'stherapist is giving her speech.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yes, the therapist yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
You hear the boom, boom, boom In my mind.
Shit you not.
I'm thinking he's gonna go tellthem to shut up yeah, what is
(07:56):
in session?
Yeah, and he looks out thewindow and all of a sudden he
just he's like oh shoot, and hetakes off running.
He takes off running and thenfrom there everyone panics.
And then, as soon as he startsrunning or gets to the door of
the courtroom, you hear it againboom, boom yeah, it was like a
pause and then boom, boom, boomyeah and so everybody like ducks
down well, some of the guysthat were in are in the program.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
they ran to the window and they're like yep,
someone's dead, there was ashooting, they were so
nonchalant about it.
Someone's dead, there was ashooting, they were so
nonchalant about it.
Someone's dead in the street.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, we all get down like in the courtroom pews,
like I shove my son under one ofthe pews and I'm like laying
next to him.
Mushka, which is my grandmother, is like freaking out.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
We were like climbing over people, and your mom was
so calm.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
She's like those are bulletproof windows.
Okay, so if you see in thevideo, I have a video.
My aunt was taking a video ofmy mom up there and you can see
in the video because you know inwhen something like that
happens.
You happen so fast kind of likealmost blackout, so you have no
idea what's going on around you.
Um small parts, yes, but likeyou can see, my mom started to
freak out.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
She puts her hand over her mouth and she's like a
shooting.
And then everybody like runsthe judge, runs into his
chambers yeah he's it was insanesome guy comes in.
He looked like he had a suit on.
I don't know what he is in thecourthouse but, he, he was
somebody and he's like radio andhe's like gunshots, gunshots
and he's shutting becausethere's three windows in that
(09:23):
courthouse and and so he toldeveryone to go sit back down and
they closed the little blinddoor for the shutters and he's
just like reporting it, like Imean I'm sure you have to stay
calm in that situation.
For us non-criminals, yeahwe're like what the hell?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
First of all and second of all, we had no idea
that the windows werebulletproof yeah, we didn't
learn until after things calmeddown, that the bullet, that the
windows were bulletproof.
And also I, for we were on thethird floor.
Yes, and I completely forgotany of that.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Like I, I thought we're like, oh shit yes, that's
what it felt like yes, becauseit's literally outside the
window.
It's literally like where theswing set is yes, that's how far
away.
And so they literally go backto their regular schedule
program.
They're like, okay, should wefinish the ceremony?
And we're all like I was, myheart was racing.
(10:15):
I on the outside, I seemed calm, but my insides were like
shaking.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I guess I know you well so I you were panicking.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I was like, you were like your, because I'm reacting.
I don't like guns, I'm not a.
I'm not a big and I know this isthe biggest con like
controversial, controversialtopic in our country right now.
I don't like them.
I've never had I don't likethem in Puerto Rico, when I grew
up there.
You can hear them.
I've never been around it likethat, but you just no, no,
(10:45):
that's not my thing.
And so come to find out it's awoman that was killed by her
husband.
They had just left thecourthouse.
You guys can Google it.
Google it Griffin, georgia,spalding County Courthouse.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yes, google that and you'll be able to read it.
It's um.
They had just had courttogether.
I don't know if it was divorceproceeding, I don't know exactly
what it was, but this woman hadbeen posting on her facebook,
yes, saying that he was stalkingher, stalking her family.
She was scared for her life,she was scared for the life of
her children.
She got in her car, on in hercar outside the courthouse and
(11:21):
he shot her through the windowyeah, oh my, and they pulled her
out.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And they pulled her out because everyone reacted
very quickly.
I watched them try to reviveher and they she died on the
scene oh my, I didn't want tolook out the window, so I never
looked out the window.
Once I looked out the window,okay, so my biggest thing is too
.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Is I needed to know?
that whoever was shooting was nolonger shooting like Like.
For me, my son was there andand hearing.
I've never experienced anythinglike that and we all know about
the school shootings that arehappening every fucking day
right now.
And for me as a mother, sendingmy child to school is stressful
every single day and I've neverexperienced anything so close.
(12:02):
So having my child feet awayfrom where somebody was just
shot and killed was, yeah,mind-blowing, and I needed to
know where the shooter was.
So I walked out of thecourtroom.
I had to go to the bathroom.
I walked out and I asked thecop.
I was like is the where's theshooter?
Did you guys get the shooter?
And they, they told me that theshooter was deceased, he was
(12:25):
actually lifelighted and andhe's still alive right, he's
still.
He's a critical condition heshot himself and he shot her and
then shot himself and we didn't.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
But we didn't know any of this.
We found this out after thefact.
But when we were when it firsthappened, the guys ran to the
window and they're like, oh,it's a drive-by, it's a drive-by
.
So we're thinking gang drive-by.
We didn't know.
My mom looks at me.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I'm like mom, like what the fuck?
My mom looks at me and goes.
She goes, it's okay, honey,it's probably a gang.
And I was like girl, this isnot cool.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
We were so quick to get out of there because we were
going to have lunch afterwardsand Bree's like we're going to
go eat lunch.
I was like take me back to PetriQuarters, far, far, far away
from here.
Yeah, it was traumatic because,like you said, for either and
(13:17):
no way these kids that are in aschool.
This was outside of acourthouse.
We had guards, they have themetal detectors, so, in like my
emotions, my heart was beatingbut my brain was saying we're
fine.
Yeah, like I wasn't, I didn'tfeel like we were in trouble or
anything like that.
Even though it was, I cannotimagine these kids in this, in
these schools, like literallybeing next door and witnessing
(13:39):
this, or like in the sameclassroom of their students
dying being murdered.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's I got home that night and I texted Lynette
because I opened my freakingphone and there was a news
article that that day somebodybrought a gun.
A child, a middle schooler,brought a gun to Duluth middle
school and was arrested.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And this school for those don't live here is right
down the street from us.
That's where Kaylin went toschool.
It's the school that my sonwould be going to and that's
where Kaylin went for threeyears.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It was Duluth middle and that night, like I, my
nerves were shot and I mean evenstill are.
And what I can't wrap my brainaround is why the fuck did I
have to go through a metaldetector?
Three police officers put myback through a metal detector
thing, put you know take myphone, my keys, all of that
stuff and my kids just goinginto school, willy nilly, I I
(14:29):
can't wrap my brain around itLike I genuinely cannot wrap my
brain around it, like Igenuinely cannot wrap my brain
around it I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I don't know what the answer is, because I'm not.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
We need metal detectors in every school.
Why are we guarding banks theway we guard banks but not our
freaking children?
It makes no sense to me.
Airports and and and I'm notsaying that those, those don't
everywhere does, and and peopleare like, oh well, that'll look
bad.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Or that'll stress the kids out.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Do you know what else will stress the kids out
Hearing their friend get shot?
You know what else will stressthe kids out Seeing their
teacher get shot?
Like like.
Let's stop the bullshit.
Let's stop Like what, whatlooks, what it looks like.
Let's protect our freaking kids.
Sorry, I'm I know my son justwent into middle school and and
in elementary school you stillworry about it everywhere, like
(15:15):
it's always in the back of mymind.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
But middle school for some reason high school are
just so like and I just I can'twrap my head around it.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
if I have to go see a fucking concert and go through
a metal detector and be searchedand have to take a clear bag,
why is why isn't that happeningat the middle schools?
Because this is happening everysingle day.
Yeah, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
No, I feel you.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
No, I agree, it's happening so much that it's
becoming normal it is Well, youand I didn't have to grow up
that way, Shiny.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I didn't.
I had to go back because I waslike when was Columbine?
And it was 99 and I graduatedin 98.
And so we never had to gothrough any of that.
So literally my kids Kaylinthat's all she knows and all
these drills that they do, andall because we want our rights
yeah.
You know we want our rights tohave guns.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Fuck our rights, let rights.
Yeah, you know, we want ourrights to have guns and our
rights.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Let's take care of our kids.
So I know we would turn off alot of people by going down that
road, but I don't give a shitwho I tick off and I'm not.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I don't know if I'm allowed to say this.
I probably shouldn't what?
I'm not a fan of abortions.
I, I do not believe inabortions as a form of birth
control.
I'm not a fan of abortions.
Okay, I feel like you know.
Oh, we're going down all thebut, but this is my thing, but
this is my thing we're sogung-ho to, to the like
anti-abortion and like, but.
(16:40):
But these children, who, who goto school?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
are at risk and we're doing nothing to protect them.
It's mind-blowing to me it'slike our priorities are in the
wrong, like we're thinking aboutthe wrong, not we.
The idiot, the idiots, theidiots that are running this
country, and this isn'tpolitical Like this is not
political.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
This is just the facts.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
This is just like the hard truth.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, this is the hard truth.
I'm not saying that, oh,abortion should, should, should
be allowed or should not beallowed.
What I'm saying is we focus somuch of our energy on certain
things, we pick and choose whatwe pretend.
Let's protect our freaking kids.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Like I, I know and after witnessing that on a I
mean, do we call it a smallscale?
I don't know.
I mean it was not fun to be apart of.
I just I can't imagine being ateenager.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
And it's sad, like the relief I felt to know that
it was a domestic altercationLike I should have.
I mean, it's sad to say likeI'm heartbroken that somebody
lost their life, I'm heartbrokenthat somebody suffered and
endured all of that before theylost their life.
Like and actually said hey, I'mafraid of money, but I'm but I
was relieved that it was adomestic altercation because you
know, the day before that itwas just some random.
(17:55):
Joe Blow who got pissed off onthe highway.
You know what I'm saying.
Like it's just, this world isso freaking scary, yeah, and I
feel so bad for my kids and I,if I was not a single mother who
had to work full time to, youknow, support my kids, I would a
thousand percent, a thousandpercent, homeschool my children
and I'm not a homeschool girl.
Like I genuinely believe ingoing to school and getting that
(18:17):
like high school experience andFriday night football games and
all of this stuff.
I don't want my son to go to aFriday night football game.
I don't know what's going tohappen.
Seriously, like I want, I wantto.
I texted Leonette.
I was like I don't, me and mykids are moving to Switzerland.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
And I said and I've lived in switzerland, that's a
good place, yeah, that's a goodplace to raise kids.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
That's all I said.
I'm like that's a great place.
Yes, it's shitty to have tothink about these things and I
feel like it's like almost tabooto like talk about or to think
about, or everybody wants tomake everything political or or
well you're, you're a democratbecause you don't like guns or
you're a Republican because,you're in favor of guns.
No, I'm in favor of protectingthe people.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
That's just, I don't know.
I feel like that's a smallminded way of viewing things and
that's just a defense mechanismfor most people that don't know
how to explain why they feelhow they feel.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And it's just dividing us, and we need to be
staying together.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
We all care about our we're not called the divided
states of America.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
No, she's saying it.
Okay.
Okay, dad, that was such a dadjoke.
That was good.
She said we're not the dividedstates of America.
Yeah, people, you're right, Ineed you to go to Congress with
that.
I need you to take thatstraight to Washington DC.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
That's why I have such a bad taste in my mouth
whenever it comes to politics,because you say like, let's
protect our kids, and they'relike oh well, this is your
political party.
I'm not talking about politics,I'm talking about protection, I
just I can't.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I think, when it comes to the kids, though, the
fact that um that some of theparents are being arrested, I
think that will hopefully be.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh, a thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
You know, hold the parents accountable.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, yeah, a thousand percent People want to
make these long, drawn outarticles about and again make
everything political oreverything like.
Well, we can't do this becauseof that no, it's excuses.
Put metal detectors in our kidsschools.
Have more security for ourchildren.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
That's just simple and minimize and yes, gun
control gun laws.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Let's talk about that you really want to talk about
that.
Let's talk about that, and andencourage our parents to talk to
our kids more.
Yeah, increase.
Well, I don't communication.
I love that shiny, but there'sa lot of shitty parents that
should not to talk to our kidsmore.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, Increase communication.
I love that Shiny, but there'sa lot of shitty parents that
should have not been parents andthey're not going to do that.
I was looking at, but that'sreally pretty and beautiful I
was Googling bulletproofbackpacks the other night.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
The only thing I could be worried about about
what's in my child's book bag isfreaking binders and candies
and snacks.
Like, why am I Googlingbulletproof backpacks for my
kids?
It's disgusting, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Or maybe see-through backpacks.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Some schools have that which.
I think is great I took my kidsto the fair on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
That boy that shot up at Appalachia.
There's no way he carried thatthing in his backpack.
The thing was huge.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I have.
No, there are secret passagesto get into these schools back
doors, janitor door, all of thatI have no idea.
I'm like no one one I don'tknow, but if we had metal,
detectors at every entrance andevery exit of the schools.
It would resolve so many issues, so many issues.
And people say like, uh,veterans, like we want to give
(21:37):
veterans jobs, let's give themjobs.
Security at my kid's school,you know what I'm saying I'm
dead, serious, I'm dead seriouslike there.
There are so many solutionswe're just, we're just worried.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
We need to get a brie up there to washington dc I
mean, now that she's sober,she's clear-minded.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I mean she got.
She's got some great ideas.
She has ideas, solutions toevery problem.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I was sitting here like my.
My facial expressions arereacting to everything you're
saying and I I agree, protectingour kids, it's I feel.
Sometimes I get numb, yeah yeahwhen I hear you have to, because
you hear these horrible,horrible stories and I don't
know what to do because, say,say, that parent was me, yeah, I
(22:27):
, I can't.
I guess I can't even, cause Iam an empathetic person, but so
much so that sometimes I have tojust turn off as if this is not
real.
This is not happening, becauseI get just bubble.
Yes, cause you.
That's a coping mechanism too,right.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Like right, but I'm denied just like oh my God,
luxury right now, Because if youthink about all these things
you'll drive yourself manic.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
It's scary, it is very scary and I and I am a
homeschool mom, right, so Idon't have, I don't have regrets
about that.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Well, after everybody can do it Not everyone can do
that.
I had plans to take my boys tothe fair this past weekend and
after that happened, when I tellyou, I played out all of these
scenarios.
Like we're on the Ferris wheeland then somebody gets pissed
off and there's a shooting, andI'm stuck in a Ferris wheel with
my kids, like all of thesethings turn this like fun,
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beautiful thing.
And then when we get to thefair there's a huge sign clear
bags only, including diaper bags.
I couldn't even take my diaperbag into the fair.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Oh, wow, okay.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I took my stroller.
They searched my stroller.
They searched me, they searchedmy kids.
We had to go through policeofficers and security.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Oh wow, they were doing that at the fair.
At the fair.
Oh wow, but not at my son'sschool.
Wow.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Like it.
Just, I went to go check myMaddox out of school last week
and they have a camera on theoutside.
So I ring the little doorbelland they're like can we see your
ID?
I literally flash my ID and Igo in and say I'm getting Maddox
Weaver, tell me what mybirthday is.
I know for a fact you did notlook at my ID that.
Well, come on now.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
But I'm just allowed to go in there and get my kid
Dang.
Okay, we know who's going to.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I was going to say I am so curious of your milky
drink that you're having.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Starbucks.
It's an apple crisp macchiatowith vanilla, sweet cream, cold
foam and extra caramel drizzles.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Why is this such a complicated drink?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Did you know?
Okay, no.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
When you go to Starbucks.
How did you order that?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
A vanilla, an ice.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
No, hey, welcome to Starbucks.
What would you?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
like Hi, can I please get a grande apple crisp
macchiato vanilla, sweet cream,cold foam and extra caramel
drizzles?
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Monday apple crisp macchiato vanilla sweet cream,
cold foam and extra carameldrizzle.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Okay, yeah, oh, my goodness.
All of the apple stuff buildsup at the bottom, so you shake
it and with every sip you getthe apple stuff.
It's really good.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
So that was actually one of my interviews last week,
and it was on the bottom of thebarrel of places that I wanted
to apply to, Not because it'snot an incredible company to
work for but this wasintimidating to me, what you
just said.
You just said like you justread a paragraph and then some
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magical barista whips it up.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
So the good news is about that sort of thing.
Now is the um, the computers.
So I've I've worked inrestaurants and I've worked in
the food industry many times.
So let's say that somebodycomes I've worked in the food
industry many times so let's saythat somebody comes in and they
order an ice.
You know they have a button forit and then they have all of
these add-on buttons right underthat, so it's not as
intimidating.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And then it pulls up on the other person that's
making it yeah, and they justprint a sticker like this but
how do they know?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So that's what.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I'm on Because I so that's what I'm intimidated.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And I'm somebody who loves to cook, you know, and
concoct things.
But yes, it sounds veryoverwhelming.
But the woman that interviewedme, she said that you learn a
base and then you build on it.
But the reason I changed andthis is going to be completely a
different subject right nowthat's okay, I hope you don't
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mind.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
That's what we're doing.
We're moving all over the place.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Well, so, as you know , I'm looking for work for so
long and I am willing to workone, two, three, whatever it
takes, because my goal right nowis financial independence and
freedom.
And I changed my perspective onapplying to Starbucks because I
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realized, okay, you've got to.
Instead of being overwhelmedand feeling anxious and nervous
about learning something thatsounds or seems complicated,
think of it, as I'm going to usea different part of my brain
and learn something new todecrease cognitive decline it's
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intriguing when you go instarbucks.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It's intriguing to watch them put all this
different shit.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I'm always impressed by them.
I love it, so I like a.
So my drink is a triple tallvanilla latte with oat milk,
because I'm finding out thatdairy is sensitive to my belly.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
A triple, triple espresso, yes, I love them all.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
And they always want to upgrade the size and I'm like
, no, the point is everybody.
This is the point.
I want lots of espresso, littlebit of milk.
Yeah, I like a lot of espresso,so I want to condense it and
there was one time where I waslike I said it real slow.
No, I just need you to spit itout because I thought it was
complicated.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, damn, yours is way more see I don't mind, just
three shots of oat milk, vanillaso I got the drink that's on
their menu and then I just addedvanilla, sweet cream, cold foam
and extra caramel drizzle.
That's not complicated, butthat sounds foreign to me.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
It does Sweet All of it.
It's the sweet cream, cold foam.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
It's the foam at the top and I could drink a whole
cup of it.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
It's so freaking good .
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I've learned about cold foam through.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Don't tell me anything bad.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
The 14-year-old Corinne no, because she likes to
get the strawberry refresherwith fold comb, the cold foam,
and I and I and I think she gotit from tiktok back, probably
like last year yeah because thestrawberry drink does have
caffeine as well.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
It does, yes, doesn't the?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
refresher.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I don't know, the refreshers do caffeine, because
I like the um oh they do dragonfruit, oh, I love all of those,
but I don't like mine withlemonade.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I like it.
With water same.
Yeah, I did the same thing withlemonade because I don't like
it too sweet.
I like it with water?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Same, yeah, I did the same thing.
She likes it with lemonade?
Yes, because I don't like ittoo sweet.
Yeah, but just like you, Iwanted to eat.
You know, the new flavors cameout with apple and pumpkins and
I feel like sometimes I canoverdo it with this.
Pumpkin spice, pumpkin spicecake, pumpkin spice muffins.
Pumpkin spice in your drink.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So I did the apple crisp and I I really did so this
.
I'm not a coffee drinker, I'mmore of an energy drink early, I
love energy drinks.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You'll hardly ever see me drink a cup of coffee
interesting but every fallstarbucks the apple crisp, I'll
drink that this is my first timedoing the apple crisp, because
I always do the pumpkin, becauseso I, because I even do a full
chai and I add fresh pumpkinspice into my.
I'm not a big fan of pumpkin.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I love I'm not a big pumpkin, I like the apple, I
love a pumpkin candle smell.
I'm not a pumpkin girl, butlike the actual, like pumpkin
pie and pumpkin, this andpumpkin, that's not me.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
No, pumpkin pie is disgusting in my personal
opinion, the texture like eatingpoop.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yeah, yeah Out of Like eating poop, yeah yeah, out
of a baby's diaper.
Yeah yeah, it's, I'm not, I donot like pumpkin pie.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Let's put pumpkin pie in a diaper and watch you lick
it.
But for the TikTok, we'll do itfor the TikTok.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
She's trying to get her feet.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I'm going to get canceled.
Yeah, follow me on TikTok.
She wants to get a lot offollowers, so let's.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I do I want to monetize?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's going to get you a lot of followers.
I feel like that would get me.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
That would get me the wrong audience.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
No, because, then I have a lot of weird men watching
me eat pumpkin out of a diaper.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
That's genuinely my view, but it's your reaction.
That would be freaking TikTok.
Handle.
It's Brie Brooks 6.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Brie.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Brooks 6.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yes, so follow me on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You have pretty much everything on there.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I do, but you're funny, I have funny stuff I have
, cooking stuff I have like justday to day, like cooking my
kids dinner and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
So, shaina and I, we're still learning.
I want to monetize off ofTikTok.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I really do.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Well, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
That's my goal.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
That's in my three-year plan I think that's,
that's a great goal, and and I'mgoing back again to this whole
brain thing- but, it is.
People call it manifesting,which is a new word for me,
Cause I didn't really understandwhat that was but I've had.
I've had a few friends nowteach me that it's how you word
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it.
It's.
I already have that job.
I'm already doing, really well,it's as if you're kind of in
past tense or present tense.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
It's going to happen.
It's going to happen.
There's no doubt in your mind.
It's going to happen, speakingit into existence.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yes, it's so powerful .
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I love it because it is very true what we say to
ourselves which is what I'vebeen, which is why I've said it
so many times in my interviews,because it is the truth I have
had a lifetime, a lifetime ofbeing not not other people being
mean to me alone, but me beingmean to myself.
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Yeah, the things that I say allday long are so mean and hurtful
to myself and I can't actuallystop it because it's so stuck,
but I'm changing it.
So when I say something that'snot very nice to myself, like I
had a thought earlier, thisright here she's grabbing her
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stomach yes, and I was thinkingit in my head and I was thinking
wow, brie doesn't have that.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
And because lc and brie had tummy tucks, yeah, so
that's why Then I have this andI thought, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
And then I thought to myself no shiny, it's okay.
Yeah, your body is differentand it's lovely just the way it
is.
But I really had to say thatyeah.
Do I buy 100% of that?
No, but I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
You know what you can buy, though, and this is this
is such a cliche thing to say,but it's so true and it's hard
to get yourself to I have tocatch myself a lot you have the
power to change it.
Whether it be a tummy tuck,whether it be whatever it takes
like it's, it's changeableyou're talking about that.
I told shiny it is the mostpainful surgery oh a million,
but I would do it a thousandpercent over and over.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
People ask me that all the time they're like did it
hurt?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I would hurt my, okay .
So very badly.
I, both of my kids, werec-section.
So after I have my c-sectionwith maddox I'm like, oh, I can
handle that, like after my tummytuck.
That was the worst pain I'veever physically been in.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
In my life would I do it a thousand times over,
absolutely and now that my scaris starting to fade a little bit
too.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I feel so confident.
I feel so sexy like I could notlook at myself naked.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I didn't wear a bikini, like you remember, like
my stomach was not, she's alwaysbeen teeny, tiny, but she would
be like I remember, I rememberI'm like brie, stop it.
And then you literally pulleddown your pants and her stomach,
you know, flopped out.
No, literally.
Yeah, because even though shewas tiny, she, she did have like
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that extra skin.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
It was extra skin and it was a it was a pouch.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I was so even.
I was like you know what nevermind, I take it back and I
apologize even like these, liketight dresses or anything tight
or a shirt that you know, thisoutfit I could not wear because
it was a, it was a pooch and youcould.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
You just didn't want.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
People would say to me all the time like oh no, you
don't need that, you're soskinny.
And then I would show them andthey'd be like oh, you can't do
that, it's.
It's just like instant.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I'm like, okay, you're right're right, you're
right it was.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I couldn't wear a bikini and I had Maddox when I
was 17.
So from 17 to 26, I think, Igot my tummy tucked.
I couldn't wear.
I never wore a bikini.
If I was in a relationship, Icouldn't let a man see me like
in the daylight with withoutclothes on, because I was so
embarrassed with my stomach.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
You got this you want to tell me, it's everything.
She's like, yeah, it's going tobe very painful, but you're
going to love it.
You're going to love it.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
And you know I, I'm uh, uh, what's it called?
A member of the little buttcommittee.
I had no butt, so I had all ofmy tummy tuck skin that they
took from my loose skin and theyinjected it into my butt.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Oh, can I look at it?
Yeah, want to see my butt.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Let's see it, she has a cute little butt now.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
It used to be flat.
It was flat.
Does it look good in thesepants?
It looks so cute in those pants.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
She has cute little pants.
For those of you, we will builda picture in your head.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
She has cute little pants.
For those of you we will, we'llbuild a picture in your head.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
She has cute little, are they like little biker
shorts?
Yeah, but but they're not likeum tight like uh, not that, that
material yeah, they're redthey're cute.
And then she has yeah, it's socute, we'll take a picture and
post it so you can see her yeah,so, but that's the good thing
about what you were saying.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
That kind of stuff is , so that's true.
It's so changeable, which isalso like such a good thing to
think about.
Everything in our lives that wedon't like is like changeable.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
We can control certain aspects Except our baby
daddies.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
We can't change them.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
We stop we stop with that.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Those are not interchangeable, I've learned.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Oh my gosh, you are so funny.
Yeah, you are great, you'regreat, I love it.
You know what I love it?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
That should be a quote.
Yeah, everything isinterchangeable Shiny, I want
you to make me a shirt with acricket that says everything's
interchangeable, except our baby.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Daddy, you got it Because I got two.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Now you got it, she got two and Brie thinks a
person's not going to come inand like love her.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
With two baby daddies , I said listen, I can name a
few people that I knowpersonally that have the same
issues.
The other day, my 11-year-oldand I went somewhere and there
was this really attractive manand I looked at him and Maddox
was like, mom, are you checkinghim out?
And I was like, yeah, he's veryhandsome and Maddox goes.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
well, mom, I don't think anybody would want to date
a single mom with two babydaddies.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I said oh damn, it'd be your own kids.
That sounds like somethingCorinne would say if I was in
that he probably heard your yousay something.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Because you know our children, if you, whatever you
teach them, they're going to sayso, maddox and Corinne, I feel
like they be coming up with shit.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
They do, they do, they come up with stuff and
you're like what the hellThey'll be like Mom, did you
really like?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
that outfit?
Well, I did, and you're likewhat the hell I'll?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
be like mom, do you?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
really like that outfit.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Well, I did before you saw it, so your voice is it
Dylan or Gavin, that's like thatfor you.
Oh, for sure Dylan.
For sure Dylan yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Remember I told you I bought this outfit that I
thought was really cute Aninfluencer was wearing it.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Oh, that's right, that's right you did.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
And it looked so good on on her and she's not skinny
mini, so I thought you know whatI can wear this and it came all
the way from hong kong, whichis fine, but the return.
I couldn't return, no, and itprobably took you five months
just to get to you and I wore itand I walked around the house
in it and both of my kids saidplease return that oh no, you're
like your gown, like no thatyou.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
If you like it, you wear it like your, your, your
like little nightgown that youjust wear around the house.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
No, it was like it was kind of spandexy.
It was something that I wouldwear to like a really hot swim
meet oh, so I've been.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Are we talking like hot, like weather, hot or hot
like hot?
Oh, I mean, I could be hotbecause we're wait, wait.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
So it's spandex like is it like kind?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
of spandex.
Oh, it's not a dress, it's, itwas a dress.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Oh, it was short.
Oh so it, for it's like formfitting.
Form fitting, I mean, it wasreally cute.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I want to see it Okay .
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I'll show it to you.
I want to see it.
I'll show it to you.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But I looked ridiculous.
I felt ridiculous, I didn'tfeel sexy.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
And you have to feel sexy.
Yes, you do, a thousand percentdudes exactly out of your pores
.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that'swhat I'm trying, I'm trying to
feel sexy.
I, because I never did before.
Well, you know what makes usfeel sexy pole dancing class, uh
, our yoga that we do onwednesdays, yes, oh, she is very
(38:58):
like.
It is like so sensual, like thestuff.
It's like not.
I was trying to explain it to Ithink it was adrian.
It's not like your typical yoga, it's just she just feels the
room, she she reads the room andwe do all these swing with our
hips yes, and I feel like a cowcow cow, if you guys know what
that is a cow cow?
(39:18):
no, I just do the bend and snapokay, okay, bend and snap no,
but we're like on the ground andwe're like getting.
We feel limber, yeah, you getloose and she's just like moving
the hips.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
It's I probably need to wait till I'm in a
relationship.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
It's very sensual, it's really it's.
It makes you feel sexy.
When you leave, you're justlike, yeah, yes, I really know
how to move this body.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah yeah, it's nice.
Yes, I think, and I think it'simportant for us women to feel
that way.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, well, I don't know, for some reason in my 40s.
Well, in my 30s, from 30 around35, I started to feel sexy.
And then, as I've gotten older,um, in my 40s, even even though
I'm the biggest that I've been,like weight wise, like that
(40:11):
stupid ass scale is saying thatI'm the heaviest I've ever been.
So we don't really like hertoday.
Yeah, we don't like her.
I don't weigh myself ever, butyou know, I had my doctor's
appointment where they said I'm,you know, pre-diabetic.
Well, they didn't say that, butthat's what.
Where they said I'm, you know,pre-diabetic.
Well, they didn't say that, butthat's what I, my research,
said, the Google, the Google,the Dr Google, um, said that I'm
um pre-diabetic.
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But yeah, I saw how much Iweighed in.
I'm like, oh my gosh, but evenwith that, I feel really good.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I do, I really do.
I would never think oh my gosh,leette looks bigger than she's
ever been, ever.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
I don't feel it either no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
I think that you have a lot of muscle.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Thank you, that's what I like to tell myself.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
It's my muscle, I posted a picture of Leonette and
I the other day and mygrandmother called me.
She was like Mommy, what isLeonette doing?
Did she get plastic surgery?
I'm like what do you mean?
And she's like, she looks soskinny and she does not age.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
And I'm like no, do you know what it is?
I know how to work the camera,I know what works like, what
angles work.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I just post whatever you know.
I know, but I know I leanedforward, you got to lean forward
.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I need to learn from you.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
I watch people.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Like I just know.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I look at people, there's people on the internet
yes, shiny, that show you how topose your body, so I look at
those people and I'm like that'swhat I need to do.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
So I do a lot of twisting with my body and poking
and all that good stuff.
But I love you, ladies, I loveyou and this was like I said.
I just want to come on and justtalk yeah, we don't, let's just
let it flow.
Do you think we let it flowtoday?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
I think it flowed.
It was a shorter story, we wentfrom talking about shootings to
our Starbucks orders withinfour seconds.
Yeah, so I think it flowed Fromtummy tucks to To sensual yoga
To baby daddies To baby daddiesand shitty marriages.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
I think we covered it all.
Yeah, thank you, ladies.
As always, this was fun.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Can we please do this again Like?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
just free flow.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yes, I would love to.
I like to free flow, I wouldlove to.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Because me, I just like to turn on the mics and
start talking.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
And so I love that, you guys are for that too.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Yes, that we can just talk.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yes, you ladies, love you.
We'll chat.
We'll chat soon.
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Read some of your pieces at open mic night.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
But no, this is since we're talking about being open
and we're making changes.
So her mom just graduated fromwhat did we call it Drug court.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Okay, explain what it is Cause.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I was.
I was invited and we went.
What was it?
Friday?
Friday morning.
There's a lot of drama thatwent with it, but we'll start
with the positive.
Hi, I am your host, leonetteTalley, and you are listening to
Virago 24-7.
Virago is Latin for femalewarrior and 24-7 is for all day,
every day.
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We share our views on self-love, mental health, marriage,
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Here you will find everydaygrowth, everyday healing with
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Speaker 3 (01:15):
So my mom it was.
So there's been several timesmy I don't know how many times,
but my mom has been arrested,but I think she has 39 felonies,
so a lot.
And there's been several timesover the course of I don't know
25, 30 years that they've talkedabout this drug court program.
But my mom never thought thatshe would be able to complete it
(01:36):
.
Nobody ever thought that shewould be able to complete it, or
even the court thought that shewas too sick to enter the
program.
The court thought that she wastoo sick to enter the program.
So essentially what it is isit's a two-year program and you
are heavily, heavily monitored.
So they have the.
They track your locationanywhere you go.
They have to track it.
The courts do.
You have to wake up at everymorning at 5 am to take a drug
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test.
You have to go to so many AA orNA meetings a week.
You have to do so many therapysessions a week, so many there's
another kind of meeting thatyou have to do.
It is just such a heavilymonitored program.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And we saw so, like Shiny they had.
So we walk in the courtroombecause there's a bunch of
there's a bunch of people in theprogram, so there was two that
graduated, your mom and anotherlady, and then the rest were
there.
They go every two weeks.
Your mom said it's every Friday.
Every Friday, they go Every twoweeks.
I think she said it could beevery week or every two weeks,
it's either every Friday orevery other Friday and they have
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to go in front of the samejudge every month.
Yes, and the therapists reportto him.
So he had like handcuff one ofthe girls because she's not
following what.
She missed a few meetings orsomething like that.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You miss a drug test, or you fail a drug test, or one
guy got in trouble for takingDayQuil.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yes, yep For taking DayQuil, because they have to
ask If you put anything in yourbody?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Ask.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yes, if you put anything in your body, even
over-the-counter prescriptionsor anything like that, you have
to get permission prior to doingso, and so he was either
putting them on house arrest.
You can't drink energy drinks.
Oh wow, you can't vape.
I mean it is such a strictprogram and she did it for two
years.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, about two years ago she was facing.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I think she was facing like 10 years prison time
and it was either she go toprison for 10 years or she do
this drug court program.
And I'll never forget my momcalled me and she's like I'm
going into drug court and I'mlike peace, I'll see you in 10,
because I did not for a secondthink that she was going to be
able to complete it.
I never in a million years I'mso thankful and glad and I had
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actually.
No, I was completely hopeless,like I did not have any faith in
her.
Just because it was.
It was such a pattern over thepast 30 years Like um, but she
did, she thrived and she lookshealthier.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
She looks so healthy Blowing.
I have chills.
I know, me too.
I just got chills.
I thought I was cold in here,but it was so cool because so
they went through each personand they had to get in front of
the judge and he he's so eventhe ones that he was
disappointed in.
You know, they have to askabout what they.
He asked them about theirstruggles and you know what was
a obstacle this this week.
(04:16):
And so you know yeah he keptasking about the toolbox Are you
using the tools from yourtoolbox?
So it was very nice.
I was like, wow, I didn't knowit existed.
Bree said that it's been aroundforever.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Oh, it's been around forever for as long as I can
remember.
It just was very like wow.
And it's not something like youhave to qualify to get into the
program as well.
It's not something that you dodrugs so you can get in this
program.
They have to look at thestatistics of whether or not
you'll be able to complete it.
So it's pretty muchrehabilitation so that they
don't go to prison.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It is Because it's either you do this program or
you're in prison or you go toprison.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
There's like no other choice.
They revoke your parole, theyrevoke your probation, they
revoke your house or whateverthe case may be, and you finish
your time in prison.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
And my mom was facing like 10 years.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So she was standing up there with her diploma and
pretty much every person that'sstill in the program stood up
and said great things about her.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
It was, it was, it was, it was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
We're crying, crying, boohoo tears.
It was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
As her daughter.
Like I, obviously I love theshit out of my mom and she you
know but there's been so manytimes just to be fully
transparent that she hasdisappointed the shit out of me
and she's hurt me and she's letme down and I lost that like um
maternal view of my mom.
I lost all respect for my mom.
I lost all of these things thatmakes a mother a mother for my
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mom, and so to and I've, youknow, slowly gained them back
over the first or, you know,over the last two years, and so
to see all of these other peoplestand up and say all of these
things about my mom and how howwonderful she is and how much
they respect her and how muchshe helped, them.
It was insane, it was.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Everybody was crying yeah.
Then it was insane.
It was.
Everybody was crying, yeah, itwas, it was beautiful, and you
stood up and you said somebeautiful things.
It was, and then somethingtragic happened.
So so we're all up there, youknow, saying all these praises
to your mom and and you just had, you just gave a beautiful
speech and literally you'll takeit from here, bree, but we're
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in Griffin Georgia.
For anybody that knows GriffinGeorgia, it's a very small town.
Like we're driving through.
I'm like we need to leave assoon as this is done.
Yeah, because it's just apodunk little town.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's sketchy for sure , and it's not that it's like,
it's just old, it just lookslike it's been there.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, and country like just what you've envisioned
a small southern town.
So we, so we're in.
So we're literally in themiddle of this small town in
their little courthouse praisingbrie's mom and all her
accomplishments, and then wehear, yeah, and at first exactly
(07:08):
what it sounds.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, and so so we hear that.
And so who went it was?
It was my mom, obviously.
It was Leonette, it was Mushka,which is my grandmother, and
Tidon, which is my aunt, and myson Maddox, my oldest son, um,
and your mom's girlfriend and mymom's girlfriend and we were
kind of like sketched out whenwe first got there, like we were
talking about the town on theway to the courthouse.
(07:29):
Yeah, anyway, so my mom'sgiving her, like my mom's
talking now, or my mom'stherapist is giving her speech.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yes, the therapist yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
You hear the boom, boom, boom In my mind.
Shit you not.
I'm thinking he's gonna go tellthem to shut up yeah, what is
(07:56):
in session?
Yeah, and he looks out thewindow and all of a sudden he
just he's like oh shoot, and hetakes off running.
He takes off running and thenfrom there everyone panics.
And then, as soon as he startsrunning or gets to the door of
the courtroom, you hear it againboom, boom yeah, it was like a
pause and then boom, boom, boomyeah and so everybody like ducks
down well, some of the guysthat were in are in the program.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
they ran to the window and they're like yep,
someone's dead, there was ashooting, they were so
nonchalant about it.
Someone's dead, there was ashooting, they were so
nonchalant about it.
Someone's dead in the street.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, we all get down like in the courtroom pews,
like I shove my son under one ofthe pews and I'm like laying
next to him.
Mushka, which is my grandmother, is like freaking out.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
We were like climbing over people, and your mom was
so calm.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
She's like those are bulletproof windows.
Okay, so if you see in thevideo, I have a video.
My aunt was taking a video ofmy mom up there and you can see
in the video because you know inwhen something like that
happens.
You happen so fast kind of likealmost blackout, so you have no
idea what's going on around you.
Um small parts, yes, but likeyou can see, my mom started to
freak out.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
She puts her hand over her mouth and she's like a
shooting.
And then everybody like runsthe judge, runs into his
chambers yeah he's it was insanesome guy comes in.
He looked like he had a suit on.
I don't know what he is in thecourthouse but, he, he was
somebody and he's like radio andhe's like gunshots, gunshots
and he's shutting becausethere's three windows in that
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courthouse and and so he toldeveryone to go sit back down and
they closed the little blinddoor for the shutters and he's
just like reporting it, like Imean I'm sure you have to stay
calm in that situation.
For us non-criminals, yeahwe're like what the hell?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
First of all and second of all, we had no idea
that the windows werebulletproof yeah, we didn't
learn until after things calmeddown, that the bullet, that the
windows were bulletproof.
And also I, for we were on thethird floor.
Yes, and I completely forgotany of that.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Like I, I thought we're like, oh shit yes, that's
what it felt like yes, becauseit's literally outside the
window.
It's literally like where theswing set is yes, that's how far
away.
And so they literally go backto their regular schedule
program.
They're like, okay, should wefinish the ceremony?
And we're all like I was, myheart was racing.
(10:15):
I on the outside, I seemed calm, but my insides were like
shaking.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I guess I know you well so I you were panicking.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I was like, you were like your, because I'm reacting.
I don't like guns, I'm not a.
I'm not a big and I know this isthe biggest con like
controversial, controversialtopic in our country right now.
I don't like them.
I've never had I don't likethem in Puerto Rico, when I grew
up there.
You can hear them.
I've never been around it likethat, but you just no, no,
(10:45):
that's not my thing.
And so come to find out it's awoman that was killed by her
husband.
They had just left thecourthouse.
You guys can Google it.
Google it Griffin, georgia,spalding County Courthouse.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yes, google that and you'll be able to read it.
It's um.
They had just had courttogether.
I don't know if it was divorceproceeding, I don't know exactly
what it was, but this woman hadbeen posting on her facebook,
yes, saying that he was stalkingher, stalking her family.
She was scared for her life,she was scared for the life of
her children.
She got in her car, on in hercar outside the courthouse and
(11:21):
he shot her through the windowyeah, oh my, and they pulled her
out.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And they pulled her out because everyone reacted
very quickly.
I watched them try to reviveher and they she died on the
scene oh my, I didn't want tolook out the window, so I never
looked out the window.
Once I looked out the window,okay, so my biggest thing is too
.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Is I needed to know?
that whoever was shooting was nolonger shooting like Like.
For me, my son was there andand hearing.
I've never experienced anythinglike that and we all know about
the school shootings that arehappening every fucking day
right now.
And for me as a mother, sendingmy child to school is stressful
every single day and I've neverexperienced anything so close.
(12:02):
So having my child feet awayfrom where somebody was just
shot and killed was, yeah,mind-blowing, and I needed to
know where the shooter was.
So I walked out of thecourtroom.
I had to go to the bathroom.
I walked out and I asked thecop.
I was like is the where's theshooter?
Did you guys get the shooter?
And they, they told me that theshooter was deceased, he was
(12:25):
actually lifelighted and andhe's still alive right, he's
still.
He's a critical condition heshot himself and he shot her and
then shot himself and we didn't.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
But we didn't know any of this.
We found this out after thefact.
But when we were when it firsthappened, the guys ran to the
window and they're like, oh,it's a drive-by, it's a drive-by
.
So we're thinking gang drive-by.
We didn't know.
My mom looks at me.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I'm like mom, like what the fuck?
My mom looks at me and goes.
She goes, it's okay, honey,it's probably a gang.
And I was like girl, this isnot cool.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
We were so quick to get out of there because we were
going to have lunch afterwardsand Bree's like we're going to
go eat lunch.
I was like take me back to PetriQuarters, far, far, far away
from here.
Yeah, it was traumatic because,like you said, for either and
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no way these kids that are in aschool.
This was outside of acourthouse.
We had guards, they have themetal detectors, so, in like my
emotions, my heart was beatingbut my brain was saying we're
fine.
Yeah, like I wasn't, I didn'tfeel like we were in trouble or
anything like that.
Even though it was, I cannotimagine these kids in this, in
these schools, like literallybeing next door and witnessing
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this, or like in the sameclassroom of their students
dying being murdered.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's I got home that night and I texted Lynette
because I opened my freakingphone and there was a news
article that that day somebodybrought a gun.
A child, a middle schooler,brought a gun to Duluth middle
school and was arrested.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And this school for those don't live here is right
down the street from us.
That's where Kaylin went toschool.
It's the school that my sonwould be going to and that's
where Kaylin went for threeyears.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It was Duluth middle and that night, like I, my
nerves were shot and I mean evenstill are.
And what I can't wrap my brainaround is why the fuck did I
have to go through a metaldetector?
Three police officers put myback through a metal detector
thing, put you know take myphone, my keys, all of that
stuff and my kids just goinginto school, willy nilly, I I
(14:29):
can't wrap my brain around itLike I genuinely cannot wrap my
brain around it, like Igenuinely cannot wrap my brain
around it I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I don't know what the answer is, because I'm not.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
We need metal detectors in every school.
Why are we guarding banks theway we guard banks but not our
freaking children?
It makes no sense to me.
Airports and and and I'm notsaying that those, those don't
everywhere does, and and peopleare like, oh well, that'll look
bad.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Or that'll stress the kids out.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Do you know what else will stress the kids out
Hearing their friend get shot?
You know what else will stressthe kids out Seeing their
teacher get shot?
Like like.
Let's stop the bullshit.
Let's stop Like what, whatlooks, what it looks like.
Let's protect our freaking kids.
Sorry, I'm I know my son justwent into middle school and and
in elementary school you stillworry about it everywhere, like
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it's always in the back of mymind.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
But middle school for some reason high school are
just so like and I just I can'twrap my head around it.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
if I have to go see a fucking concert and go through
a metal detector and be searchedand have to take a clear bag,
why is why isn't that happeningat the middle schools?
Because this is happening everysingle day.
Yeah, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
No, I feel you.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
No, I agree, it's happening so much that it's
becoming normal it is Well, youand I didn't have to grow up
that way, Shiny.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I didn't.
I had to go back because I waslike when was Columbine?
And it was 99 and I graduatedin 98.
And so we never had to gothrough any of that.
So literally my kids Kaylinthat's all she knows and all
these drills that they do, andall because we want our rights
yeah.
You know we want our rights tohave guns.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Fuck our rights, let rights.
Yeah, you know, we want ourrights to have guns and our
rights.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Let's take care of our kids.
So I know we would turn off alot of people by going down that
road, but I don't give a shitwho I tick off and I'm not.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I don't know if I'm allowed to say this.
I probably shouldn't what?
I'm not a fan of abortions.
I, I do not believe inabortions as a form of birth
control.
I'm not a fan of abortions.
Okay, I feel like you know.
Oh, we're going down all thebut, but this is my thing, but
this is my thing we're sogung-ho to, to the like
anti-abortion and like, but.
(16:40):
But these children, who, who goto school?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
are at risk and we're doing nothing to protect them.
It's mind-blowing to me it'slike our priorities are in the
wrong, like we're thinking aboutthe wrong, not we.
The idiot, the idiots, theidiots that are running this
country, and this isn'tpolitical Like this is not
political.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
This is just the facts.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
This is just like the hard truth.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, this is the hard truth.
I'm not saying that, oh,abortion should, should, should
be allowed or should not beallowed.
What I'm saying is we focus somuch of our energy on certain
things, we pick and choose whatwe pretend.
Let's protect our freaking kids.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Like I, I know and after witnessing that on a I
mean, do we call it a smallscale?
I don't know.
I mean it was not fun to be apart of.
I just I can't imagine being ateenager.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
And it's sad, like the relief I felt to know that
it was a domestic altercationLike I should have.
I mean, it's sad to say likeI'm heartbroken that somebody
lost their life, I'm heartbrokenthat somebody suffered and
endured all of that before theylost their life.
Like and actually said hey, I'mafraid of money, but I'm but I
was relieved that it was adomestic altercation because you
know, the day before that itwas just some random.
(17:55):
Joe Blow who got pissed off onthe highway.
You know what I'm saying.
Like it's just, this world isso freaking scary, yeah, and I
feel so bad for my kids and I,if I was not a single mother who
had to work full time to, youknow, support my kids, I would a
thousand percent, a thousandpercent, homeschool my children
and I'm not a homeschool girl.
Like I genuinely believe ingoing to school and getting that
(18:17):
like high school experience andFriday night football games and
all of this stuff.
I don't want my son to go to aFriday night football game.
I don't know what's going tohappen.
Seriously, like I want, I wantto.
I texted Leonette.
I was like I don't, me and mykids are moving to Switzerland.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
And I said and I've lived in switzerland, that's a
good place, yeah, that's a goodplace to raise kids.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
That's all I said.
I'm like that's a great place.
Yes, it's shitty to have tothink about these things and I
feel like it's like almost tabooto like talk about or to think
about, or everybody wants tomake everything political or or
well you're, you're a democratbecause you don't like guns or
you're a Republican because,you're in favor of guns.
No, I'm in favor of protectingthe people.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
That's just, I don't know.
I feel like that's a smallminded way of viewing things and
that's just a defense mechanismfor most people that don't know
how to explain why they feelhow they feel.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
And it's just dividing us, and we need to be
staying together.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
We all care about our we're not called the divided
states of America.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
No, she's saying it.
Okay.
Okay, dad, that was such a dadjoke.
That was good.
She said we're not the dividedstates of America.
Yeah, people, you're right, Ineed you to go to Congress with
that.
I need you to take thatstraight to Washington DC.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
That's why I have such a bad taste in my mouth
whenever it comes to politics,because you say like, let's
protect our kids, and they'relike oh well, this is your
political party.
I'm not talking about politics,I'm talking about protection, I
just I can't.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I think, when it comes to the kids, though, the
fact that um that some of theparents are being arrested, I
think that will hopefully be.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh, a thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
You know, hold the parents accountable.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, yeah, a thousand percent People want to
make these long, drawn outarticles about and again make
everything political oreverything like.
Well, we can't do this becauseof that no, it's excuses.
Put metal detectors in our kidsschools.
Have more security for ourchildren.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
That's just simple and minimize and yes, gun
control gun laws.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Let's talk about that you really want to talk about
that.
Let's talk about that, and andencourage our parents to talk to
our kids more.
Yeah, increase.
Well, I don't communication.
I love that shiny, but there'sa lot of shitty parents that
should not to talk to our kidsmore.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, Increase communication.
I love that Shiny, but there'sa lot of shitty parents that
should have not been parents andthey're not going to do that.
I was looking at, but that'sreally pretty and beautiful I
was Googling bulletproofbackpacks the other night.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
The only thing I could be worried about about
what's in my child's book bag isfreaking binders and candies
and snacks.
Like, why am I Googlingbulletproof backpacks for my
kids?
It's disgusting, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Or maybe see-through backpacks.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Some schools have that which.
I think is great I took my kidsto the fair on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
That boy that shot up at Appalachia.
There's no way he carried thatthing in his backpack.
The thing was huge.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I have.
No, there are secret passagesto get into these schools back
doors, janitor door, all of thatI have no idea.
I'm like no one one I don'tknow, but if we had metal,
detectors at every entrance andevery exit of the schools.
It would resolve so many issues, so many issues.
And people say like, uh,veterans, like we want to give
(21:37):
veterans jobs, let's give themjobs.
Security at my kid's school,you know what I'm saying I'm
dead, serious, I'm dead seriouslike there.
There are so many solutionswe're just, we're just worried.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
We need to get a brie up there to washington dc I
mean, now that she's sober,she's clear-minded.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I mean she got.
She's got some great ideas.
She has ideas, solutions toevery problem.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I was sitting here like my.
My facial expressions arereacting to everything you're
saying and I I agree, protectingour kids, it's I feel.
Sometimes I get numb, yeah yeahwhen I hear you have to, because
you hear these horrible,horrible stories and I don't
know what to do because, say,say, that parent was me, yeah, I
(22:27):
, I can't.
I guess I can't even, cause Iam an empathetic person, but so
much so that sometimes I have tojust turn off as if this is not
real.
This is not happening, becauseI get just bubble.
Yes, cause you.
That's a coping mechanism too,right.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Like right, but I'm denied just like oh my God,
luxury right now, Because if youthink about all these things
you'll drive yourself manic.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
It's scary, it is very scary and I and I am a
homeschool mom, right, so Idon't have, I don't have regrets
about that.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Well, after everybody can do it Not everyone can do
that.
I had plans to take my boys tothe fair this past weekend and
after that happened, when I tellyou, I played out all of these
scenarios.
Like we're on the Ferris wheeland then somebody gets pissed
off and there's a shooting, andI'm stuck in a Ferris wheel with
my kids, like all of thesethings turn this like fun,
(23:25):
beautiful thing.
And then when we get to thefair there's a huge sign clear
bags only, including diaper bags.
I couldn't even take my diaperbag into the fair.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Oh, wow, okay.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I took my stroller.
They searched my stroller.
They searched me, they searchedmy kids.
We had to go through policeofficers and security.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Oh wow, they were doing that at the fair.
At the fair.
Oh wow, but not at my son'sschool.
Wow.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Like it.
Just, I went to go check myMaddox out of school last week
and they have a camera on theoutside.
So I ring the little doorbelland they're like can we see your
ID?
I literally flash my ID and Igo in and say I'm getting Maddox
Weaver, tell me what mybirthday is.
I know for a fact you did notlook at my ID that.
Well, come on now.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
But I'm just allowed to go in there and get my kid
Dang.
Okay, we know who's going to.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I was going to say I am so curious of your milky
drink that you're having.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Starbucks.
It's an apple crisp macchiatowith vanilla, sweet cream, cold
foam and extra caramel drizzles.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Why is this such a complicated drink?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Did you know?
Okay, no.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
When you go to Starbucks.
How did you order that?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
A vanilla, an ice.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
No, hey, welcome to Starbucks.
What would you?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
like Hi, can I please get a grande apple crisp
macchiato vanilla, sweet cream,cold foam and extra caramel
drizzles?
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Monday apple crisp macchiato vanilla sweet cream,
cold foam and extra carameldrizzle.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Okay, yeah, oh, my goodness.
All of the apple stuff buildsup at the bottom, so you shake
it and with every sip you getthe apple stuff.
It's really good.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
So that was actually one of my interviews last week,
and it was on the bottom of thebarrel of places that I wanted
to apply to, Not because it'snot an incredible company to
work for but this wasintimidating to me, what you
just said.
You just said like you justread a paragraph and then some
(25:15):
magical barista whips it up.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
So the good news is about that sort of thing.
Now is the um, the computers.
So I've I've worked inrestaurants and I've worked in
the food industry many times.
So let's say that somebodycomes I've worked in the food
industry many times so let's saythat somebody comes in and they
order an ice.
You know they have a button forit and then they have all of
these add-on buttons right underthat, so it's not as
intimidating.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And then it pulls up on the other person that's
making it yeah, and they justprint a sticker like this but
how do they know?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So that's what.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I'm on Because I so that's what I'm intimidated.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And I'm somebody who loves to cook, you know, and
concoct things.
But yes, it sounds veryoverwhelming.
But the woman that interviewedme, she said that you learn a
base and then you build on it.
But the reason I changed andthis is going to be completely a
different subject right nowthat's okay, I hope you don't
(26:06):
mind.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
That's what we're doing.
We're moving all over the place.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Well, so, as you know , I'm looking for work for so
long and I am willing to workone, two, three, whatever it
takes, because my goal right nowis financial independence and
freedom.
And I changed my perspective onapplying to Starbucks because I
(26:30):
realized, okay, you've got to.
Instead of being overwhelmedand feeling anxious and nervous
about learning something thatsounds or seems complicated,
think of it, as I'm going to usea different part of my brain
and learn something new todecrease cognitive decline it's
(26:52):
intriguing when you go instarbucks.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It's intriguing to watch them put all this
different shit.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I'm always impressed by them.
I love it, so I like a.
So my drink is a triple tallvanilla latte with oat milk,
because I'm finding out thatdairy is sensitive to my belly.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
A triple, triple espresso, yes, I love them all.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
And they always want to upgrade the size and I'm like
, no, the point is everybody.
This is the point.
I want lots of espresso, littlebit of milk.
Yeah, I like a lot of espresso,so I want to condense it and
there was one time where I waslike I said it real slow.
No, I just need you to spit itout because I thought it was
complicated.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, damn, yours is way more see I don't mind, just
three shots of oat milk, vanillaso I got the drink that's on
their menu and then I just addedvanilla, sweet cream, cold foam
and extra caramel drizzle.
That's not complicated, butthat sounds foreign to me.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
It does Sweet All of it.
It's the sweet cream, cold foam.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
It's the foam at the top and I could drink a whole
cup of it.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
It's so freaking good .
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I've learned about cold foam through.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Don't tell me anything bad.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
The 14-year-old Corinne no, because she likes to
get the strawberry refresherwith fold comb, the cold foam,
and I and I and I think she gotit from tiktok back, probably
like last year yeah because thestrawberry drink does have
caffeine as well.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
It does, yes, doesn't the?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
refresher.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I don't know, the refreshers do caffeine, because
I like the um oh they do dragonfruit, oh, I love all of those,
but I don't like mine withlemonade.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I like it.
With water same.
Yeah, I did the same thing withlemonade because I don't like
it too sweet.
I like it with water?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Same, yeah, I did the same thing.
She likes it with lemonade?
Yes, because I don't like ittoo sweet.
Yeah, but just like you, Iwanted to eat.
You know, the new flavors cameout with apple and pumpkins and
I feel like sometimes I canoverdo it with this.
Pumpkin spice, pumpkin spicecake, pumpkin spice muffins.
Pumpkin spice in your drink.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So I did the apple crisp and I I really did so this
.
I'm not a coffee drinker, I'mmore of an energy drink early, I
love energy drinks.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You'll hardly ever see me drink a cup of coffee
interesting but every fallstarbucks the apple crisp, I'll
drink that this is my first timedoing the apple crisp, because
I always do the pumpkin, becauseso I, because I even do a full
chai and I add fresh pumpkinspice into my.
I'm not a big fan of pumpkin.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I love I'm not a big pumpkin, I like the apple, I
love a pumpkin candle smell.
I'm not a pumpkin girl, butlike the actual, like pumpkin
pie and pumpkin, this andpumpkin, that's not me.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
No, pumpkin pie is disgusting in my personal
opinion, the texture like eatingpoop.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yeah, yeah Out of Like eating poop, yeah yeah, out
of a baby's diaper.
Yeah yeah, it's, I'm not, I donot like pumpkin pie.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Let's put pumpkin pie in a diaper and watch you lick
it.
But for the TikTok, we'll do itfor the TikTok.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
She's trying to get her feet.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I'm going to get canceled.
Yeah, follow me on TikTok.
She wants to get a lot offollowers, so let's.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I do I want to monetize?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's going to get you a lot of followers.
I feel like that would get me.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
That would get me the wrong audience.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
No, because, then I have a lot of weird men watching
me eat pumpkin out of a diaper.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
That's genuinely my view, but it's your reaction.
That would be freaking TikTok.
Handle.
It's Brie Brooks 6.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Brie.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Brooks 6.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yes, so follow me on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You have pretty much everything on there.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I do, but you're funny, I have funny stuff I have
, cooking stuff I have like justday to day, like cooking my
kids dinner and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
So, shaina and I, we're still learning.
I want to monetize off ofTikTok.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I really do.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Well, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
That's my goal.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
That's in my three-year plan I think that's,
that's a great goal, and and I'mgoing back again to this whole
brain thing- but, it is.
People call it manifesting,which is a new word for me,
Cause I didn't really understandwhat that was but I've had.
I've had a few friends nowteach me that it's how you word
(30:45):
it.
It's.
I already have that job.
I'm already doing, really well,it's as if you're kind of in
past tense or present tense.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
It's going to happen.
It's going to happen.
There's no doubt in your mind.
It's going to happen, speakingit into existence.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yes, it's so powerful .
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I love it because it is very true what we say to
ourselves which is what I'vebeen, which is why I've said it
so many times in my interviews,because it is the truth I have
had a lifetime, a lifetime ofbeing not not other people being
mean to me alone, but me beingmean to myself.
(31:25):
Yeah, the things that I say allday long are so mean and hurtful
to myself and I can't actuallystop it because it's so stuck,
but I'm changing it.
So when I say something that'snot very nice to myself, like I
had a thought earlier, thisright here she's grabbing her
(31:47):
stomach yes, and I was thinkingit in my head and I was thinking
wow, brie doesn't have that.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
And because lc and brie had tummy tucks, yeah, so
that's why Then I have this andI thought, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
And then I thought to myself no shiny, it's okay.
Yeah, your body is differentand it's lovely just the way it
is.
But I really had to say thatyeah.
Do I buy 100% of that?
No, but I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
You know what you can buy, though, and this is this
is such a cliche thing to say,but it's so true and it's hard
to get yourself to I have tocatch myself a lot you have the
power to change it.
Whether it be a tummy tuck,whether it be whatever it takes
like it's, it's changeableyou're talking about that.
I told shiny it is the mostpainful surgery oh a million,
but I would do it a thousandpercent over and over.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
People ask me that all the time they're like did it
hurt?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I would hurt my, okay .
So very badly.
I, both of my kids, werec-section.
So after I have my c-sectionwith maddox I'm like, oh, I can
handle that, like after my tummytuck.
That was the worst pain I'veever physically been in.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
In my life would I do it a thousand times over,
absolutely and now that my scaris starting to fade a little bit
too.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I feel so confident.
I feel so sexy like I could notlook at myself naked.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I didn't wear a bikini, like you remember, like
my stomach was not, she's alwaysbeen teeny, tiny, but she would
be like I remember, I rememberI'm like brie, stop it.
And then you literally pulleddown your pants and her stomach,
you know, flopped out.
No, literally.
Yeah, because even though shewas tiny, she, she did have like
(33:35):
that extra skin.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
It was extra skin and it was a it was a pouch.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I was so even.
I was like you know what nevermind, I take it back and I
apologize even like these, liketight dresses or anything tight
or a shirt that you know, thisoutfit I could not wear because
it was a, it was a pooch and youcould.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
You just didn't want.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
People would say to me all the time like oh no, you
don't need that, you're soskinny.
And then I would show them andthey'd be like oh, you can't do
that, it's.
It's just like instant.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I'm like, okay, you're right're right, you're
right it was.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I couldn't wear a bikini and I had Maddox when I
was 17.
So from 17 to 26, I think, Igot my tummy tucked.
I couldn't wear.
I never wore a bikini.
If I was in a relationship, Icouldn't let a man see me like
in the daylight with withoutclothes on, because I was so
embarrassed with my stomach.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
You got this you want to tell me, it's everything.
She's like, yeah, it's going tobe very painful, but you're
going to love it.
You're going to love it.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
And you know I, I'm uh, uh, what's it called?
A member of the little buttcommittee.
I had no butt, so I had all ofmy tummy tuck skin that they
took from my loose skin and theyinjected it into my butt.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Oh, can I look at it?
Yeah, want to see my butt.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Let's see it, she has a cute little butt now.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
It used to be flat.
It was flat.
Does it look good in thesepants?
It looks so cute in those pants.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
She has cute little pants.
For those of you, we will builda picture in your head.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
She has cute little pants.
For those of you we will, we'llbuild a picture in your head.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
She has cute little, are they like little biker
shorts?
Yeah, but but they're not likeum tight like uh, not that, that
material yeah, they're redthey're cute.
And then she has yeah, it's socute, we'll take a picture and
post it so you can see her yeah,so, but that's the good thing
about what you were saying.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
That kind of stuff is , so that's true.
It's so changeable, which isalso like such a good thing to
think about.
Everything in our lives that wedon't like is like changeable.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
We can control certain aspects Except our baby
daddies.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
We can't change them.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
We stop we stop with that.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Those are not interchangeable, I've learned.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Oh my gosh, you are so funny.
Yeah, you are great, you'regreat, I love it.
You know what I love it?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
That should be a quote.
Yeah, everything isinterchangeable Shiny, I want
you to make me a shirt with acricket that says everything's
interchangeable, except our baby.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Daddy, you got it Because I got two.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Now you got it, she got two and Brie thinks a
person's not going to come inand like love her.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
With two baby daddies , I said listen, I can name a
few people that I knowpersonally that have the same
issues.
The other day, my 11-year-oldand I went somewhere and there
was this really attractive manand I looked at him and Maddox
was like, mom, are you checkinghim out?
And I was like, yeah, he's veryhandsome and Maddox goes.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
well, mom, I don't think anybody would want to date
a single mom with two babydaddies.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I said oh damn, it'd be your own kids.
That sounds like somethingCorinne would say if I was in
that he probably heard your yousay something.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Because you know our children, if you, whatever you
teach them, they're going to sayso, maddox and Corinne, I feel
like they be coming up with shit.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
They do, they do, they come up with stuff and
you're like what the hellThey'll be like Mom, did you
really like?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
that outfit?
Well, I did, and you're likewhat the hell I'll?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
be like mom, do you?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
really like that outfit.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Well, I did before you saw it, so your voice is it
Dylan or Gavin, that's like thatfor you.
Oh, for sure Dylan.
For sure Dylan yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Remember I told you I bought this outfit that I
thought was really cute Aninfluencer was wearing it.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Oh, that's right, that's right you did.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
And it looked so good on on her and she's not skinny
mini, so I thought you know whatI can wear this and it came all
the way from hong kong, whichis fine, but the return.
I couldn't return, no, and itprobably took you five months
just to get to you and I wore itand I walked around the house
in it and both of my kids saidplease return that oh no, you're
like your gown, like no thatyou.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
If you like it, you wear it like your, your, your
like little nightgown that youjust wear around the house.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
No, it was like it was kind of spandexy.
It was something that I wouldwear to like a really hot swim
meet oh, so I've been.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Are we talking like hot, like weather, hot or hot
like hot?
Oh, I mean, I could be hotbecause we're wait, wait.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
So it's spandex like is it like kind?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
of spandex.
Oh, it's not a dress, it's, itwas a dress.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Oh, it was short.
Oh so it, for it's like formfitting.
Form fitting, I mean, it wasreally cute.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I want to see it Okay .
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I'll show it to you.
I want to see it.
I'll show it to you.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But I looked ridiculous.
I felt ridiculous, I didn'tfeel sexy.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
And you have to feel sexy.
Yes, you do, a thousand percentdudes exactly out of your pores
.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that'swhat I'm trying, I'm trying to
feel sexy.
I, because I never did before.
Well, you know what makes usfeel sexy pole dancing class, uh
, our yoga that we do onwednesdays, yes, oh, she is very
(38:58):
like.
It is like so sensual, like thestuff.
It's like not.
I was trying to explain it to Ithink it was adrian.
It's not like your typical yoga, it's just she just feels the
room, she she reads the room andwe do all these swing with our
hips yes, and I feel like a cowcow cow, if you guys know what
that is a cow cow?
(39:18):
no, I just do the bend and snapokay, okay, bend and snap no,
but we're like on the ground andwe're like getting.
We feel limber, yeah, you getloose and she's just like moving
the hips.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
It's I probably need to wait till I'm in a
relationship.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
It's very sensual, it's really it's.
It makes you feel sexy.
When you leave, you're justlike, yeah, yes, I really know
how to move this body.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah yeah, it's nice.
Yes, I think, and I think it'simportant for us women to feel
that way.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, well, I don't know, for some reason in my 40s.
Well, in my 30s, from 30 around35, I started to feel sexy.
And then, as I've gotten older,um, in my 40s, even even though
I'm the biggest that I've been,like weight wise, like that
(40:11):
stupid ass scale is saying thatI'm the heaviest I've ever been.
So we don't really like hertoday.
Yeah, we don't like her.
I don't weigh myself ever, butyou know, I had my doctor's
appointment where they said I'm,you know, pre-diabetic.
Well, they didn't say that, butthat's what.
Where they said I'm, you know,pre-diabetic.
Well, they didn't say that, butthat's what I, my research,
said, the Google, the Google,the Dr Google, um, said that I'm
um pre-diabetic.
(40:32):
But yeah, I saw how much Iweighed in.
I'm like, oh my gosh, but evenwith that, I feel really good.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I do, I really do.
I would never think oh my gosh,leette looks bigger than she's
ever been, ever.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
I don't feel it either no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
I think that you have a lot of muscle.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Thank you, that's what I like to tell myself.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
It's my muscle, I posted a picture of Leonette and
I the other day and mygrandmother called me.
She was like Mommy, what isLeonette doing?
Did she get plastic surgery?
I'm like what do you mean?
And she's like, she looks soskinny and she does not age.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
And I'm like no, do you know what it is?
I know how to work the camera,I know what works like, what
angles work.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I just post whatever you know.
I know, but I know I leanedforward, you got to lean forward
.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I need to learn from you.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
I watch people.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Like I just know.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I look at people, there's people on the internet
yes, shiny, that show you how topose your body, so I look at
those people and I'm like that'swhat I need to do.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
So I do a lot of twisting with my body and poking
and all that good stuff.
But I love you, ladies, I loveyou and this was like I said.
I just want to come on and justtalk yeah, we don't, let's just
let it flow.
Do you think we let it flowtoday?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
I think it flowed.
It was a shorter story, we wentfrom talking about shootings to
our Starbucks orders withinfour seconds.
Yeah, so I think it flowed Fromtummy tucks to To sensual yoga
To baby daddies To baby daddiesand shitty marriages.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
I think we covered it all.
Yeah, thank you, ladies.
As always, this was fun.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Can we please do this again Like?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
just free flow.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yes, I would love to.
I like to free flow, I wouldlove to.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Because me, I just like to turn on the mics and
start talking.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
And so I love that, you guys are for that too.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Yes, that we can just talk.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yes, you ladies, love you.
We'll chat.
We'll chat soon.
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