May 21, 2025 • 49 mins
Legacy means creating an enduring impact that lasts beyond your lifetime, leaving behind something valuable whether it's material possessions, values, or a memory of your character and impact. Philip shares the profound legacy of his spiritual mentor, Brian Mullen, who passed away two years ago in a snorkeling accident.
• Brian lived out intentionality—remembering everyone's names, birthdays, and family details
• Brian's legacy lives on through the men's group he founded, which continues to meet
• At Brian's celebration of life, people who barely knew him attended because of his impact
• There are three categories of legacy: biological (family memories), material (tangible assets), and values (positive impact)
• Legacy doesn't happen by chance but by choice—our daily decisions determine our impact
• The WHOOP framework can help plan your legacy: Wish, Outcome, Obstacles, Plans
• Reflection questions like "How do you want to be remembered?" help identify core values
• The Spark Type Assessment can help discover your natural purpose and strengths
• Legacy isn't about leaving something for people, but leaving something in people
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What does it mean to leave a legacy?
Leaving a legacy means creatingan enduring impact or influence
on others, often lasting beyondone's own lifetime.
It's about leaving behindsomething valuable, whether it's
material possessions, financialsupport, values or an enduring
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memory of someone's characterand impact.
Hi, I am your host, LyanetteTalley, and you are listening to
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Hello and happy Mother's Dayweekend.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hello, hello, beautiful people.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Oh, I had you on mute .
Say that again.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh dang.
Hello beautiful people.
This is Lyanette's, significantother.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Hello, yeah, happy Mother's Day to everyone.
It's Mother's Day weekend and,yeah, I hope all you mothers out
there are enjoying your weekend, because it's your weekend and
you can spend it however theheck you want.
And you know, for those whosemommies are no longer here, like
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yours, philip, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
May you feel them in spirit.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Definitely.
Yes, definitely Definitely, andwe're in Tybee Island.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yes, we're here In our condo.
It's raining, but that's okay.
It doesn't matter, becausewe're here alone with no kids.
This is how I wanted to spendmy Mother's Day weekend, and
that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And that's a vacation with no kids.
And just a little side note,our first time ever in Tybee was
on Mother's Day weekend, whenwe were dating.
We went to that bed andbreakfast, that's right.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Damn, that was like a long time ago, over 20 years
ago, all right, so we're heretoday because we've been wanting
to do this podcast for a while,this episode for a while, about
leaving legacy about.
You know, we've had a lot ofpeople passing in the last few
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years and you and I have talkedabout you know what legacy do we
want to leave?
What impact do we want to leaveon people?
And two years ago, your mentorand friend, Brian Mullen, passed
away and we had wanted to talkabout that when it happened, but
it was very just raw, yeah,very raw, still very emotional,
(03:13):
yeah.
So I feel like two years is agood time and you can speak on
it.
It's the right time.
So we're going to talk aboutlegacy and the reason we bring
him up.
You'll understand why we bringhim up and the impact that he's
left on people.
Yeah, just by him living hiseveryday life.
And I found an article.
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We're going to go through it.
But, but I want to fill up totalk about Brian and the impact
he left.
But in this article I foundit's from good life project dot
com he left.
But in this article I foundit's from goodlifeprojectcom and
it's the article is called howto leave a legacy, a
counterintuitive approach tocrafting your life, and in it it
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says that there's threecategories of, you know, leaving
a legacy.
But before that, there's thisquote.
It starts off like this thearticle says there's a quote
attributed to Confucius thatsays we have two lives, and the
second begins when we realize weonly have one.
And then it goes on to say it'soh, so true.
And it's that second life wheremost people start to think
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about leaving a legacy, whetherit's leaving a legacy for your
family, building an organizationthat outlasts you, writing the
book that shapes thinking forcenturies to come.
Legacy is a way of passing onthe essence of oneself, in
particular one's values andbeliefs.
Legacy is a method of leavingsomething behind after death and
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making meaning of the end oflife.
And in the article it saysthere's three different
categories to leaving a legacy.
One is the biological legacy,which is making memories with
family, nurturing relationships,you know, making a home a home,
making it loving and safe.
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The second is the materiallegacies, which is leaving
something tangible like abusiness, a home is the material
legacies which is leavingsomething tangible like a
business, a home or any materialthings like, you know, money,
finances.
And number three is legacy ofvalue, which is having a
positive impact on the worldaround them and passing down an
experience and tradition of thevalues they care about.
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And it says that theresearchers have found that that
third one is what's mostimportant for the majority of us
is leaving values and that kindof impact.
So, phillip, share with usBrian's life and, yeah, I know
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you have a lot of examples and alot of stories about him.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Brian Mullen.
Um, he was my spiritual mentor.
I mean, I would go to Brianpretty much on everything and
anything big decisions I had tomake.
You know, obviously I talked toLeonette about them, but I also
ran those things to Brian also.
Um, he was a character.
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I mean he um, like Leonettesaid, he died two years ago in a
snorkeling accident in CostaRica.
And, um, this described Brianis.
The first thing you always thinkabout brian is his clothes, and
what I mean by that he alwayswore bright, bright colors.
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Like you walk in to see brianin our men's group and he'd have
a pink shirt, green pants,purple.
I mean he's like a rainbow, Imean it was, it was.
He was different and always hada smile.
Um, he was a great cook.
Um, he was a great ping pongplayer and I mean I thought I
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could play ping pong and, um,brian had us over to his house
on a March Madness party and hewhipped me in ping pong in an
apron.
That was.
That was.
That was humbling right there.
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But you know, brian never met astranger.
I mean, he would talk to anyone.
He was never bashful or shyabout his faith and sharing that
with anyone, every men's groupwe would come in and since he
led the men's group and startedthe men's group, he was the tell
.
He told us a story about he metsomeone at the gas station and
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shared his faith.
Or he met someone at thecleaners or the waitress.
But not only is he telling usthe story, but he ended up
knowing everything about thatperson.
He knew about.
That person would tell himthings that I'm sure they didn't
even tell a lot of their closefriends.
And just in one you knowencounter with Brian, he knew
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and he remembered them and itwas not like he saw him at one
time.
Some people he repeatedly wasvery I guess the biggest word
for Brian is very intentional,especially with everyone that he
met.
Obviously he was veryintentional with us and how he
did that was he had I don't knowhe had such a good memory.
I mean he knew all of ourwives' names in the men's group.
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There was over 30 people in themen's group but he knew
everyone's wives' name, all yourkids' names, birthdays for all
your family members.
I mean it was crazy, we alwaysgot cards for birthdays, wedding
, anniversaries.
He just kept up with that.
But yes, he was veryintentional about his
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interactions with everyone, andwhen you were with Brian, you
thought you were the mostimportant person in his life.
That's that's how he made youfeel.
I mean, like during thepandemic I think the whole house
got COVID and I just mentionedthat to Brian on the phone.
(09:10):
And then, like an hour later,brian rings the doorbell and he
got groceries for our wholefamily.
It's just the things that Brianwould do.
So when I joined the men'sgroup, I was asked hey, you want
to come to the men's group?
We meet on Fridays at 630.
I was like 630 in the morning.
(09:32):
I was like no, I'll show up andI've been going now for over I
don't know.
I don't know how long it's been,forever but what Brian would do
, he brought us a group of guystogether that there was no way
in the world we would ever hangout with each other Such a
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diverse group of people ages,ethnicities, nationalities but
he brought us all together.
But he brought us all togetherand he really was very impactful
in everything that we did.
I mean, one of the main thingsthat I really loved about one of
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the activities that we did wasa men's retreat, and he would
have you bring your, your sonwith you.
And that was that was amazingto spend just one on one time
with Khalil and just to see hisspiritual growth over those
weekends.
And then the next time we hadit, I didn't think Khalil wanted
to go and he was like, oh yeah,I'm definitely going.
(10:38):
So it obviously impacted himbecause, you know, khalil is not
the type of person that will doanything he doesn't want to do.
I wonder where he got that from.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
And wouldn't Brian like know what snacks to?
Bring for each person.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, from the men's retreat, Brian had snacks for
every single person that theyparticularly liked, even
Khalil's favorite snack.
Brian brought it both times.
I mean this is intentional,that's what he was.
It was something else.
(11:13):
And then, you know, when hepassed, we found out even more
stories about him.
He would send our pastor wordsof encouragement prior to each
church service via text.
You know, brian would pray foreveryone in the men's group
every single day.
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And then after his death, we metas a group, the men's group,
and we were at someone's housekind of deciding, you know, are
we going to continue with themen's group?
And then one of the guys at themen's group, steve, said you
know what we cannot not continueto do this.
Brian would be so disappointedand there's no way in the world
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one person can do all of Brian'sduties and emails and all the
stuff that he would send outprior to and how he prepared and
everything.
So basically, it takes all ofus right now and we have
continued the men's group andthat's been amazing.
You know, we just didn't wantto disappoint Brian and and it's
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not a men's group Even now,every time when we meet there's
not something that we don'tdiscuss about Brian and just to
give you a little tidbit onBrian and how thoughtful and
intentional he was, one weekafter he had passed we went to
men's group and his wife broughtus a gift that Brian had mailed
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to everyone prior to his death.
So one week afterwards we wereall getting gifts from Brian on
that Friday, so he was alwaysthinking of us even when he
wasn't there, which I thoughtwas something else.
And you know the other thing,you know, even at the funeral,
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that was amazing, so many peoplecame and you know we got more
of like.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
It was more like a celebration of life.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, and it was very beautiful.
Yeah, it was amazing.
And one of the things andactivities that we did, which is
such a Brian activity um, youhad to get up and group up with
a group of people that youdidn't know already and just
tell Brian stories.
You know, like what impact thathe had in your life and he
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knows, I would think maybe overa hundred people there and you
couldn't be in a group withsomeone you already knew and
everyone had a story about Brianand you know, we just shared
stories about Brian for, youknow, 15, 20 minutes or so.
And the crazy thing about itwas when we were doing that, my
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pastor in his group.
He told us Brian's mechanic wasthere and our pastor joked.
He said I probably couldn'teven get any of my family
members to come to mycelebration of life, but Brian
had his mechanic there.
I mean, that's the impact thatBrian had on just everybody.
And then the one other crazystory about that is there was a
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person there in his group, in mypastor's little group, that
didn't even know Brian.
He never met Brian, never knewhim.
He just knew of Brian fromstories from some of his friends
and even those stories impactedhim so indirectly.
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Brian was impacting orinfluencing someone that he had
never met and he felt just hejust said I just had to come.
It's almost like I didn't knowhim of all the stories people
would tell him.
It's almost like I did know himof all the stories people would
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tell him.
So you know, that just givesyou a little idea of who Brian
Mullen was and how, howimportant he was to me, to our
men's group, and he always on alittle activities.
You know cause men's groups.
You know you meet, you talk,you know obviously something
spiritual.
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We may read a book, but the oneunique thing about our men's
group is Brian's idea was totell our life stories and we all
would spend a Friday randomly.
Brian would ask you to tellyour life story from childhood
to now and your Christianjourney, and that was so
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impactful.
We really got to know eachperson in that men's group so
well and I think that's why weare still together, because we
are very close.
I mean we go to dinner together, at times we go to each other's
houses and again, these arepeople I wouldn't normally hang
out with, to be honest.
But we're very, very close andall of that is all because of
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Brian, we're just going to talkabout him.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Until we're no longer here, he'll always be talked
about and thought about and, man, so just seeing that and that
impact, it's like what do wewant to do?
What do we want to do so thatwe can leave our legacy Right,
because you?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
definitely left one for sure yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And also, I think one of the questions that you all
brought up amongst yourselves islike why you know he was like
the same age as you, like 50,early 50s and why would God take
him away?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Because he had touched so many lives already.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Just imagine how many more lives Brian would have
touched if he was still living.
Yeah, but one good thing thatyou said is it has pushed you
all to be intentional withpeople, with each other.
I see you being moreintentional in a way that you
never were.
You reach out to people more.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
You pray for people, more like you're intentional
about connecting with people,yeah, like Brian was, yeah, and
that's that's every singleperson.
In our men's group we did say,because of Brian, we're
different.
You know we're different peopleand yeah, he, he's gone now,
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but I mean he lives on throughour activities, are, I don't
know how we carry, live ourlives now, cause it's different,
um, since his death and how wetry to be, um, I don't know.
We used to joke about you knowhow you have those things to say
(18:05):
.
What would Jesus do?
So we talk about what wouldBrian do, and then it's like, ok
, I guess I do need to share myfaith or I do need to help this
person, because you know, brianwas always volunteering, helping
someone that he didn't evenknow who they were, helping
someone that he didn't even knowwho they were.
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One story my last dinner I hadwith Brian, he was telling me a
story about he was out for awalk and he ran into this lady,
didn't know her, and she washaving trouble with her tire
because she had a flat tire, sheneeded to get to work or
whatever.
So Brian walked home, got hislittle kit and Brian always had
something and came back andtried to help this lady change
her tire and you know he wasdressed up at the time but he
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didn't care.
He got in there, helped thelady change her tire, um and um,
and it was crazy.
I mean it took him a couple ofhours because there was some
other complications going on,and but you know, just spending
that time with someone that youdidn't know, you're walking down
in your neighborhood and mostpeople would just keep keep it
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moving her help.
Brian volunteered it and thenhe went out of his way to um,
help her out, and then he knewabout at that.
After that conversation he, youknow, invited her to church and
he knew all about her life andshe shared stuff with Brian.
It was so personal, um, but youknow, once you meet him, you
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just you, just you just thinkyou've known him all your life,
uh and everything.
But uh, yeah, yeah, brian is um, he will definitely be missed.
But you know he did leave alegacy and you know, like you
said, the legacy of value isdefinitely the one that he, he
did.
You know, it's not just youknow, I think people we think
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about legacy is not just whenyou're gone, when you you know
what legacy you live, you leave,but how you live.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
How you live your life now will be a determining
factor, and what legacy that youleave article again that I
found was from Good Life Projectand it's how to leave a legacy
a counterintuitive approach tocrafting your life.
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So it literally says that it.
It's the first question is okay, how do you want to be
remembered?
What do you want to leave?
And that's what it says.
It's like we can't wait untilwe pass away and think, oh, we
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were, we magically left a legacy.
It's literally why we're livingis that we have to start.
And one of the things that itsays on here it was quoting a
rabbi, and Because when we talkabout stuff, I like to give you
tools.
You know, I like to researchstuff and it's like, okay, I
want to leave a legacy, so whatdo I do to get there?
And so there's a Rabbi, steveLeder, l-e-d-e-r, and he pretty
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much says, in order to startthinking about what kind of
legacy you want, in order tostart thinking about what kind
of legacy you want, he saysstart thinking about what's
important to you.
Like, really, really, reallystart thinking about what at
your core, who you are at yourcore.
You know this helps so that youavoid the trap that we call
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idolatry, where we centersomething we think we should
want, like money or a reputationor somebody else's idea of
success, and we make it a partof our identity and definition
of success.
And then we end up devoting somany of our lives to attaining
the symbol.
And then we wonder why we don'tfeel the way we want to feel.
And then we wonder why we don'tfeel the way we want to feel.
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And again in the articlethere's like two things to kind
of start sparking your you know,your, your mind, yeah, your
thought process.
And I took this.
Okay.
So I said sparking, like likeit's about to go into what I'm
about to say Spark typeassessment.
I've never heard of that.
So the spark type assessment,it's S-P-A-R-K-E-T-Y-P-E
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assessment and I took it.
So that assessment will helpyou find out what you were meant
to do on this earth, like whatkind of work, what motivates you
, what excites you.
And when I took it, it's legit,yeah, yeah, I just took it when
I was reading the article.
And another thing that therabbi says to do to start
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sparking, like what values arelying deep within you, like your
core there.
So there's 12 questions.
You ready for them?
We don't have to answer themright now, unless you want to
answer a few, no pressure, allright, there's 12 of them.
Number one what do you regret?
Two when was the time you ledwith your heart?
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Three what makes you happy?
Four what was your biggestfailure?
Number five what got youthrough your greatest challenge?
Six what is a good person?
Seven what is love?
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Number eight have you ever cutsomeone out of your life?
I'll answer that.
One yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.
I don't know what that means itsays about me, but yes.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Number nine, number people you've cut out your life.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, yeah yeah, number yeses.
Number nine how do you want tobe remembered?
I've been thinking about that alot for myself.
Uh, number 10 what is goodadvice?
11 what will your epitaphepitaph am I saying that right?
What will your epitaph?
Epitaph Am I saying that right?
What will your epitaph say?
And number 12, what will yourfinal blessing be?
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So those are good questions andI was like, I guess, to get you
thinking what you value, what'sinside of you, and you want me
to answer some of those you can.
That'd be riveting.
You would love that.
Yeah, which one would you liketo answer?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Felipe.
Uh, let's see here, man, let melook again.
What do you regret?
Huh, that's a good one.
I regret that's a, that's ahard one.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I honestly Because in some things.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I don't know if I want to.
Yeah, do I really regret it?
Yeah, I wouldn't be who I amexactly.
That's all I'm gonna say orI've achieved what I achieved if
I haven't hadn't had.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, that like incident, yeah, like years ago.
I'm sure I could have justrattled off all these regrets,
but I'm learning as I'm gettingolder that so many things that
we didn't like going through orwe thought was a mistake does
build character.
I have one, you do, yeah, what?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And this has nothing to do with like if I hadn't gone
through that I'd be betterbecause of it.
I have two and I wish I hadgotten to see my father before
he died.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I regret that because we were there, we were, there,
we were there, we were in LittleRock.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I was on my way to go visit him and I got a call from
my brother, john Kevin, sayingthat he was dead.
So I definitely regret that Ididn't get to see him before,
when he was alive, that thatmorning.
And then obviously, the secondone's the same thing with my
mother, because I actually, whenshe had her stroke, by the time
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I got to the hospital and flewhome she wasn't really there.
So I just regret not being ableto see them before they pass.
So that's my regret.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Sometimes I regret and I don't know if it's like a
big regret is not having acareer, because I always
envisioned me having a careerand being very successful at it
and I never pursued it a careerand being very successful at it,
and I never pursued it Right.
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And I never want to blame oh, Igot married early or I got had
kids early, like that shouldn'teven.
That's just excuses I couldhave and I didn't Right.
So if I'm going to say anything, it would be that.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, I can definitely see that.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And it's not too late .
For me, however, it would havebeen nice to start earlier,
because you know, when so manyyears go by, you feel like you
wasted time.
So I try not to let my mind gothere.
I feel like there's, there'slike as long as we're breathing.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
You always have time to pursue what you want to do.
That's true.
It's funny because our pastorand I'll get back to the
questions.
This past Sunday, his wholesermon series is about legacy,
which is kind of ironic thatwe're talking about it now.
But nothing happens by chance.
And one of the things that hesaid that I wrote down, which I
thought was great, was legacydoesn't happen by chance.
And one of the things that hesaid that I wrote down which I
thought was great was legacydoesn't happen by chance, it
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happens by choice.
You know, what are the choiceswe're making now, the decisions
we make now, determines ourlegacy, which I thought was very
, very profound.
And you know just that.
You have to be intentionalabout what you're doing and your
choices, which I guess one ofthese questions.
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It said what?
What was the time you led withyour heart?
Can you answer that?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I can't think of anything specific, but I feel
like a lot of how I live my lifeis like feeling that intuition
and feeling led.
You know Corinne, when she ouryoungest daughter, you know when
she sees somebody on the sideof the road or feels like
someone needs something, why didyou give that person money but
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not the other person?
And honestly, it's like I feelled to do it.
It's like something within youthat leads you and I told her
not everyone is God's not goingto always put something on your
heart for every person that youencounter.
And so I know that when I getthat strong feeling and
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sensation for anything reallythat I have to follow it.
And even just the things that Italk about on this podcast,
there's some things that are solike it'll go days and it's that
the message is not going away.
It's not going away.
It's not going away.
My last episode, episode 100, Igot a few comments on that like
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good stuff, good feedback.
It's like how do you come upwith this stuff?
And how do you like, oh my gosh, you just flowed so nicely, it
was so impactful and I honestlyit's, I pray about things.
God gives me that, thatyearning or that feeling and I
run with it.
So I give him the glory that hegives me the words, or he gives
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me the, the topic, yeah, andnot even with just that, or he
he leads me to like help thisperson, give to this person
Cause I do love to give, but heputs it on my heart Like this
person needs you and I do it,and then I forget about it.
And then people years laterlike thank you so much, and I'm
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just like I gave and didn't eventhink about it ever again.
Yeah, so that's when you knowit's, it's that you're, yeah, so
that's it.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Happens a lot for me yeah, and you know, back to
Brian, just as I was justthinking about him, you know we
would ask him all the time.
You know how did you meet?
You always have a story everyweek and he told us you know we
all he was talking abouteveryone in the men's group you
all have those sameopportunities every week.
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It's just a matter Are youpaying attention to come across
someone that needs you in sometype of way?
And it's true.
I mean, it's a choice, justlike you said here.
It does happen, but it happensby choice and the choices that
you make.
And I think all of us now are alot more aware of things, and
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people like Brian was because,yeah, things.
And people like Brian wasbecause, yeah, and his whole
thing was, we all have thoseopportunities.
And even going back to theretreat and I don't want to get
so religious on you, but one ofthe two of the biggest things
that we did there each time wewent on our retreat, was just go
(31:29):
out in this field.
You know such a big place thatwe could just spread out and you
would not see another personand our whole thing was to be
quiet and listen to God.
And it was so surreal becauseyou actually got to hear God
(31:53):
talk to you, and then we wouldcome back and talk about you
know what did God say to you?
You know what were you thinking.
And then you wonder why I can'tdo that.
You know, when we're back inour real lives, it's because,
kind of like what Brian said,because we're distracted.
Life, you know, god is alwaystalking to you.
It's the fact that we're justnot always listening.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
That's why I have it tattooed on my.
You know, be still is one ofthe things that I'm very
purposeful about is to just sit,and that's why I learned how to
meditate and that's why I'vetaken up yoga, so that I can be
one with my body and one with mymind and be still and be okay
being there.
And it's very, very hard.
It's very, very hard as humanswhen we have so many
(32:41):
distractions.
So many distractions, mygoodness, and yeah, it's one of
those things that, yeah, beingstill, that's when you really
can listen to what yourintuition is telling you and
what your spirit is telling you.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Sure, sure, yeah, you're very in tune with that,
for sure, I'm trying to be Allright.
What makes you happy?
I'm going to be really cornyhere, but what makes me happy?
I'm gonna be really corny here,but what makes me happy is my
time with you.
That's what makes me happy socorny so cute.
(33:22):
So when we go on our vacationsjust us those are true vacations
.
We bring the kids, that's afamily trip.
But when we go on our vacationswe never argue, we never get
into it.
And we definitely get into itand argue at home, but when it's
just the two of us, it's alwaysjust amazing.
(33:44):
We're definitely in sync, butthat makes me happy.
I get excited when we're aboutto go do something, just us.
That's sweet, especially onvacations, and you know, when
we're traveling somewhere I'm sofun yeah that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I'm so entertaining.
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
You are entertaining.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Okay, well, I guess I have to say what brings me
happiness is hanging out withyou two.
No, it does, but other than you, nature, nature, being with
nature.
I know some people don't liketo be outside.
They don't like the bugs, theydon't like, uh, the heat, they
don't like the cold.
(34:23):
I, I love nature trees, beaches, water, um brings me peace.
So one more question, thenwe'll move on, because this is
getting the juices flowing.
What brings us joy?
And then, what do we do withall this information?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
That's true.
That's true.
I'll let you pick the question.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
How do you want to be remembered?
Ooh.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Dang, you would pick that one.
How do I want to be remembered?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I've already thought about that.
I wrote it down somewhere in ajournal, but I don't know which
journal because I have a few andmy friend Adrian's, like how do
you do that?
How do you have multiple goingat the same time?
I just pick up a book and startwriting.
I don't really.
How many journals do you?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
have.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
It's not that I have journals, it's like I have all
these different booklets I thinkI have through three right now
that I write down on that.
Oh, if I, if I can, off the topof my head, remember.
But I want to be remembered assomeone who was giving um, who
was compassionate, who thoughtabout others but also followed
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my convictions.
So when I say, you know I'veremoved people from my life, you
know those people might notthink I was compassionate or
thoughtful or kind, but you knowthose things have to happen in
order for me to be the bestversion of who I am, what God
has called me to be.
So I do remove negativity, or Iremove toxicity out of my life,
(36:08):
no matter if I was rocking theboat.
I want to be remembered assomeone who's fearless, who
brought joy to people's lives,who, yeah, who someone that
people want to be around.
And if I'm not here that Iwould have, there'd be a hole
missing Right, right, like Iwould leave an emptiness Right.
(36:30):
Hole missing Right, right, likeI would leave an emptiness
Right.
But hopefully you guys canstill be joyful when you think
about you know what I did andhow I made you laugh.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
So, yeah, okay, all good vibes, that's a lot Okay.
Yeah, if I had to be really,really honest, how I want to be
remembered is someone that mypresence made you happy.
Just that simple.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So simple.
Maybe I should have just saidthat.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
All right.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
So in back to the article.
So once we take the test fromspark SPARK type assessment and
answer some of these questions,what's important to us?
So, now that we know our coretest values and who we are and
what we were meant to be and doon this earth, there is a
(37:31):
professor of psychology, gabrielGabriel.
Is it Gabriel Gabrielle?
No, it's a female.
That's Gabrielle.
There you go, odington.
Okay, oting Otingan, don't youjust spell it out.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
That'd be better.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I'm sorry, gabrielle O-ting-en, o-ting, o-ting-en.
Anyways, she's a professor ofpsychology, I just butchered her
name.
She has a concept that shedeveloped and it's the WHOOP
concept.
So W-O-O-P, so this is what weneed to do for our goals and
(38:11):
planning on how to leave alegacy.
So this is what WHOOP standsfor.
It says it works like this theW is wish.
You start out by making a wishand think about your greatest
wishes for your legacy, and whatdo they look like.
And think about your greatestwishes for your legacy, and what
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do they look like.
The first O is outcome.
It says then, envision theoutcome.
What's the best possibleoutcome for you here?
How will you know you'vesucceeded?
This is why it's important toget at your core motivation for
leaving a legacy first.
So that's why it's so importantto know at our core what makes
us tick.
Otherwise, how will you be ableto figure out the conditions of
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success?
The second O is obstacles.
Think about the things thatmight get in the way of you
being able to leave the legacyyou want.
Brainstorm a list.
Just let your mind come up withany and everything that might
get in the way, no matter howweird or unlikely it is.
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Then prioritize those obstaclesbased on how likely it is that
they'll happen and how much of abig deal it'll be if they
happen.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Oh, that's a good part, yeah, how likely would
they happen.
Oh, that's a good part, yeah,how likely would they happen.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
How likely is it that they'll happen and how much of
a big deal it'll be if theyhappen.
Because sometimes, especiallyas anxious folk, we have all the
things that could happen and alot of them are very
catastrophic.
So this is a good exercise.
And then it's like the questionis like what?
(39:49):
If it does happen, then what?
And the P stands for plans,using that list of obstacles,
create.
And in quotes it says if, thenplans.
If, then plans For eachobstacle, make a plan of if
obstacle A happens, I'll do B,or when obstacle C happens, then
(40:13):
I'll do D.
For instance, you might say,when I get distracted by daily
life, I'll make sure to comeback to my legacy goal with a
weekly journaling check-in.
So I think that helps withobstacles, because I think a lot
of times that's what stops allof us from moving forward with
our passions or our purpose orwhatever.
It's these obstacles and Ithink, if we sit down
(40:34):
realistically and look at them,a lot of these obstacles are
just challenges that we canovercome.
And I know for myself I'll justlet those obstacles just sit
there and I stand right in frontof them and I'm like I'll just
let those obstacles just sitthere and I stand right in front
of them and I'm like I can'tmove forward because they're in
the way.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Almost all obstacles are something that you can plan,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
But people like you.
So see, you are a kind ofperson that there's obstacles in
your way.
It's a challenge.
You love it, like what can I doto overcome this?
It doesn't yeah, it motivatesyou.
It doesn't scare you Me, itputs a little fear in my spirit,
like now what I thought thiswas my path, and there's this
big old, giant obstacle.
What do I do with it?
Speaker 2 (41:20):
You know I thought about that and you've mentioned
that before.
But I got that from my mother,yeah, before.
But I got that from my mother,yeah, because she always told me
I killed Kent a long time ago.
My mom was kind of graphicabout it too, because she said I
took Kent out in the field andI killed him.
I was like what'd you kill himwith?
She said with a shotgun.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
But so then I can see why you have no fear because
you're like shit man.
There's no is.
He died a long time ago.
I saw him.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I said you know laugh about that.
But yeah, I definitely thinkthat that was because of her,
For sure.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
So, like you said earlier, you know, people tend
to think of legacy purely interms of something that happens
after you die.
This is what the article says,but the truth is legacies are
formed while you're alive, andthe best way to leave a legacy
is to live it day by day.
And it says also that you know,we like to think that you know
(42:26):
our lives, like living ourlegacy is like these big things,
like I, you know, I have tostart a company from scratch or
I have to write this book, andit can just be little things,
like little daily things is whatit says.
And it says here yeah.
Little choices, little, justlittle daily things, it says.
(42:48):
And how do you figure out whatthat might look like on a
practical level?
This is where things come backto knowing what you're here to
do and what your values are.
You can use those two things asa true north to help you figure
out what living your legacylooks like on a day-to-day basis
.
If something aligns with thatultimate purpose and is a way of
(43:11):
acting on one of your values,you know you're on the right
track.
If not, it's time to reassess.
And we all know we.
We all know in our spirit, likewhen something feels right and
when something feels off, true.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
A lot of it.
Sometimes we just ignore it.
Yeah, we do Keep it moving.
Yep, Then you've made a poordecision.
Yeah, or a poor choice becauseyou didn't listen to that which
is, you know.
That is your spirit.
That's the whole purpose ofyour spirit is to guide you.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
So at the end, I'm going to read this.
These are not.
This is not my recap.
Read this.
These are not.
This is not my recap.
This is the recap on thearticle, to sum up what we just
talked about.
So, number one the desire toleave a legacy seems to be
innate to humans.
Research shows that it's a wayof preserving the essence of
yourself after you die, and ithelps make sense of the end of
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life.
Number two there are lots ofdifferent motivations for
leaving a legacy and many waysto go about it.
Spend some time thinking aboutthe area in which you want to
leave your legacy, so you knowwhere to concentrate your energy
.
Number three once you know whattype of legacy you want to
leave, spend some timeconsidering your core
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motivations, purpose and values.
This will help you determinewhat actions you need to take as
part of building your legacy.
Four, planning is key.
Once you have your coremotivation and area of impact
figured out, use the whoopframework to get a plan in place
.
And lastly, a legacy isn'tgoing to just somehow magically
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happen after you die.
You live your legacy intoexistence and a lot of the times
, the ways you do that aresmaller than you'd think
Routines and rituals areespecially powerful here.
So that's a summary of what weall need to do, and I've been
thinking a lot about my legacyso many times.
(45:06):
As much as I love podcasting,so many times I get so flustered
and bothered and it's mostly inmy head, but I feel like this
is part of who I am.
So, like the test that I took,the Spark type assessment, it
basically says this like, whatI'm doing is bringing people
(45:26):
together oh gosh, it came off mycomputer.
Oh, yeah, it says that I'm Idon't know.
I'm going to do the result.
Yeah, this is my result.
Yes, Spark type test.
And that spark type test tellsyou what you should be doing,
what your purpose is, whatbrings you joy, like what lights
you up.
(45:47):
And it says that I am anadvisor.
So what I like is coaching,mentoring, being there for
people, building relationships,bringing people together in
small groups, which is like what, yeah?
Or like what I want to do withthe podcast is like doing many
(46:08):
events and like hopefully oneday doing bigger events where
we're bringing women togetherand I say women, it could be
anybody, but mostly women, forme is, and so I took the test
and I was like okay, that'sthat's.
It puts you on kind ofvalidates.
If you already feel thatinwardly and if you're lost of
(46:28):
like what is my purpose, itgives you some direction.
So I take you to take that test.
Oh, I took it while you weresitting there.
It was I don't know five, 10minutes.
Okay.
I'll take it after, I know, Iknow, anyways, and then it tells
you and then there's like asecondary, and then there's like
what you don't like to do.
So you know what it says aboutme, what do you not like to do?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I can imagine.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
It says I don't like to clean up big messes.
Wait, what did it?
Oh, it says the Essentialistthat's the name is all about
creating order from chaos,distilling, simplifying,
organizing systems and processes.
So I guess I don't like to dothat Like, if it's like big and
it makes sense, because at work,at the office, that's what I
(47:13):
don't like to do Like, whenthere's a lot happening and big
emotions and people just allover the place, I hate dealing
with that.
I need people to get ittogether and let's move in a
positive way.
So I said, okay, that makessense.
I was like, no, I likeorganization and simplifying,
but no, not when there's a lotof chaos.
(47:33):
You love chaos.
So, anyways, I can't wait to seeyour results.
So you guys take the test and Iwould love to hear, like, what
everyone comes up with.
And it's the Spark type testAssessment Assessment
S-P-A-R-K-E-T-Y-P-E assessmentAssessment.
And it was free and it wasquick.
Oh, that's the key word is free.
(47:53):
It's free.
Yeah, I'm sure they want tosell you a book or if you want
more details, you probably haveto sign up for something, but
yeah, so, philip, leaving alegacy in our older age, that's
what we need to focus on.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
A hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
And that's what we are focusing on.
Yeah, that's been a big part ofhow you live your life now.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Choices that you make , the decisions that you make
now Determine our legacy.
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Because when I'm no longer here, I want people to
show up and show out.
I want everyone wearing purple.
I've said this before Everyoneneeds to wear purple and we need
to put on some reggaeton, and Ineed some dancing going on.
That's it.
Celebrate, celebrate,celebration of life, yeah, yeah.
(48:40):
So I'll leave you all with this.
Legacy is not leaving somethingfor people, it's leaving
something in people.
So I want to thank you.
Oh, okay, it wasn't my quote.
I wish I made it up.
I want to thank you all again.
Happy Mother's Day to all youmommies out there.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Happy Mother's Day.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
And, as always, thank you, philip, for coming on.
I always love being here withyou.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Same.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
And chit-chatting.
Yes, till next time, all right,bye.
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Hello and happy Mother's Dayweekend.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hello, hello, beautiful people.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Oh, I had you on mute .
Say that again.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh dang.
Hello beautiful people.
This is Lyanette's, significantother.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Hello, yeah, happy Mother's Day to everyone.
It's Mother's Day weekend and,yeah, I hope all you mothers out
there are enjoying your weekend, because it's your weekend and
you can spend it however theheck you want.
And you know, for those whosemommies are no longer here, like
(01:51):
yours, philip, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
May you feel them in spirit.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Definitely.
Yes, definitely Definitely, andwe're in Tybee Island.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yes, we're here In our condo.
It's raining, but that's okay.
It doesn't matter, becausewe're here alone with no kids.
This is how I wanted to spendmy Mother's Day weekend, and
that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And that's a vacation with no kids.
And just a little side note,our first time ever in Tybee was
on Mother's Day weekend, whenwe were dating.
We went to that bed andbreakfast, that's right.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Damn, that was like a long time ago, over 20 years
ago, all right, so we're heretoday because we've been wanting
to do this podcast for a while,this episode for a while, about
leaving legacy about.
You know, we've had a lot ofpeople passing in the last few
(02:51):
years and you and I have talkedabout you know what legacy do we
want to leave?
What impact do we want to leaveon people?
And two years ago, your mentorand friend, Brian Mullen, passed
away and we had wanted to talkabout that when it happened, but
it was very just raw, yeah,very raw, still very emotional,
(03:13):
yeah.
So I feel like two years is agood time and you can speak on
it.
It's the right time.
So we're going to talk aboutlegacy and the reason we bring
him up.
You'll understand why we bringhim up and the impact that he's
left on people.
Yeah, just by him living hiseveryday life.
And I found an article.
(03:35):
We're going to go through it.
But, but I want to fill up totalk about Brian and the impact
he left.
But in this article I foundit's from good life project dot
com he left.
But in this article I foundit's from goodlifeprojectcom and
it's the article is called howto leave a legacy, a
counterintuitive approach tocrafting your life, and in it it
(03:55):
says that there's threecategories of, you know, leaving
a legacy.
But before that, there's thisquote.
It starts off like this thearticle says there's a quote
attributed to Confucius thatsays we have two lives, and the
second begins when we realize weonly have one.
And then it goes on to say it'soh, so true.
And it's that second life wheremost people start to think
(04:18):
about leaving a legacy, whetherit's leaving a legacy for your
family, building an organizationthat outlasts you, writing the
book that shapes thinking forcenturies to come.
Legacy is a way of passing onthe essence of oneself, in
particular one's values andbeliefs.
Legacy is a method of leavingsomething behind after death and
(04:39):
making meaning of the end oflife.
And in the article it saysthere's three different
categories to leaving a legacy.
One is the biological legacy,which is making memories with
family, nurturing relationships,you know, making a home a home,
making it loving and safe.
(05:01):
The second is the materiallegacies, which is leaving
something tangible like abusiness, a home is the material
legacies which is leavingsomething tangible like a
business, a home or any materialthings like, you know, money,
finances.
And number three is legacy ofvalue, which is having a
positive impact on the worldaround them and passing down an
experience and tradition of thevalues they care about.
(05:23):
And it says that theresearchers have found that that
third one is what's mostimportant for the majority of us
is leaving values and that kindof impact.
So, phillip, share with usBrian's life and, yeah, I know
(05:44):
you have a lot of examples and alot of stories about him.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Brian Mullen.
Um, he was my spiritual mentor.
I mean, I would go to Brianpretty much on everything and
anything big decisions I had tomake.
You know, obviously I talked toLeonette about them, but I also
ran those things to Brian also.
Um, he was a character.
(06:11):
I mean he um, like Leonettesaid, he died two years ago in a
snorkeling accident in CostaRica.
And, um, this described Brianis.
The first thing you always thinkabout brian is his clothes, and
what I mean by that he alwayswore bright, bright colors.
(06:33):
Like you walk in to see brianin our men's group and he'd have
a pink shirt, green pants,purple.
I mean he's like a rainbow, Imean it was, it was.
He was different and always hada smile.
Um, he was a great cook.
Um, he was a great ping pongplayer and I mean I thought I
(06:58):
could play ping pong and, um,brian had us over to his house
on a March Madness party and hewhipped me in ping pong in an
apron.
That was.
That was.
That was humbling right there.
(07:18):
But you know, brian never met astranger.
I mean, he would talk to anyone.
He was never bashful or shyabout his faith and sharing that
with anyone, every men's groupwe would come in and since he
led the men's group and startedthe men's group, he was the tell
.
He told us a story about he metsomeone at the gas station and
(07:41):
shared his faith.
Or he met someone at thecleaners or the waitress.
But not only is he telling usthe story, but he ended up
knowing everything about thatperson.
He knew about.
That person would tell himthings that I'm sure they didn't
even tell a lot of their closefriends.
And just in one you knowencounter with Brian, he knew
(08:03):
and he remembered them and itwas not like he saw him at one
time.
Some people he repeatedly wasvery I guess the biggest word
for Brian is very intentional,especially with everyone that he
met.
Obviously he was veryintentional with us and how he
did that was he had I don't knowhe had such a good memory.
I mean he knew all of ourwives' names in the men's group.
(08:26):
There was over 30 people in themen's group but he knew
everyone's wives' name, all yourkids' names, birthdays for all
your family members.
I mean it was crazy, we alwaysgot cards for birthdays, wedding
, anniversaries.
He just kept up with that.
But yes, he was veryintentional about his
(08:47):
interactions with everyone, andwhen you were with Brian, you
thought you were the mostimportant person in his life.
That's that's how he made youfeel.
I mean, like during thepandemic I think the whole house
got COVID and I just mentionedthat to Brian on the phone.
(09:10):
And then, like an hour later,brian rings the doorbell and he
got groceries for our wholefamily.
It's just the things that Brianwould do.
So when I joined the men'sgroup, I was asked hey, you want
to come to the men's group?
We meet on Fridays at 630.
I was like 630 in the morning.
(09:32):
I was like no, I'll show up andI've been going now for over I
don't know.
I don't know how long it's been,forever but what Brian would do
, he brought us a group of guystogether that there was no way
in the world we would ever hangout with each other Such a
(09:53):
diverse group of people ages,ethnicities, nationalities but
he brought us all together.
But he brought us all togetherand he really was very impactful
in everything that we did.
I mean, one of the main thingsthat I really loved about one of
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the activities that we did wasa men's retreat, and he would
have you bring your, your sonwith you.
And that was that was amazingto spend just one on one time
with Khalil and just to see hisspiritual growth over those
weekends.
And then the next time we hadit, I didn't think Khalil wanted
to go and he was like, oh yeah,I'm definitely going.
(10:38):
So it obviously impacted himbecause, you know, khalil is not
the type of person that will doanything he doesn't want to do.
I wonder where he got that from.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
And wouldn't Brian like know what snacks to?
Bring for each person.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, from the men's retreat, Brian had snacks for
every single person that theyparticularly liked, even
Khalil's favorite snack.
Brian brought it both times.
I mean this is intentional,that's what he was.
It was something else.
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And then, you know, when hepassed, we found out even more
stories about him.
He would send our pastor wordsof encouragement prior to each
church service via text.
You know, brian would pray foreveryone in the men's group
every single day.
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And then after his death, we metas a group, the men's group,
and we were at someone's housekind of deciding, you know, are
we going to continue with themen's group?
And then one of the guys at themen's group, steve, said you
know what we cannot not continueto do this.
Brian would be so disappointedand there's no way in the world
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one person can do all of Brian'sduties and emails and all the
stuff that he would send outprior to and how he prepared and
everything.
So basically, it takes all ofus right now and we have
continued the men's group andthat's been amazing.
You know, we just didn't wantto disappoint Brian and and it's
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not a men's group Even now,every time when we meet there's
not something that we don'tdiscuss about Brian and just to
give you a little tidbit onBrian and how thoughtful and
intentional he was, one weekafter he had passed we went to
men's group and his wife broughtus a gift that Brian had mailed
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to everyone prior to his death.
So one week afterwards we wereall getting gifts from Brian on
that Friday, so he was alwaysthinking of us even when he
wasn't there, which I thoughtwas something else.
And you know the other thing,you know, even at the funeral,
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that was amazing, so many peoplecame and you know we got more
of like.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
It was more like a celebration of life.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, and it was very beautiful.
Yeah, it was amazing.
And one of the things andactivities that we did, which is
such a Brian activity um, youhad to get up and group up with
a group of people that youdidn't know already and just
tell Brian stories.
You know, like what impact thathe had in your life and he
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knows, I would think maybe overa hundred people there and you
couldn't be in a group withsomeone you already knew and
everyone had a story about Brianand you know, we just shared
stories about Brian for, youknow, 15, 20 minutes or so.
And the crazy thing about itwas when we were doing that, my
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pastor in his group.
He told us Brian's mechanic wasthere and our pastor joked.
He said I probably couldn'teven get any of my family
members to come to mycelebration of life, but Brian
had his mechanic there.
I mean, that's the impact thatBrian had on just everybody.
And then the one other crazystory about that is there was a
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person there in his group, in mypastor's little group, that
didn't even know Brian.
He never met Brian, never knewhim.
He just knew of Brian fromstories from some of his friends
and even those stories impactedhim so indirectly.
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Brian was impacting orinfluencing someone that he had
never met and he felt just hejust said I just had to come.
It's almost like I didn't knowhim of all the stories people
would tell him.
It's almost like I did know himof all the stories people would
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tell him.
So you know, that just givesyou a little idea of who Brian
Mullen was and how, howimportant he was to me, to our
men's group, and he always on alittle activities.
You know cause men's groups.
You know you meet, you talk,you know obviously something
spiritual.
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We may read a book, but the oneunique thing about our men's
group is Brian's idea was totell our life stories and we all
would spend a Friday randomly.
Brian would ask you to tellyour life story from childhood
to now and your Christianjourney, and that was so
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impactful.
We really got to know eachperson in that men's group so
well and I think that's why weare still together, because we
are very close.
I mean we go to dinner together, at times we go to each other's
houses and again, these arepeople I wouldn't normally hang
out with, to be honest.
But we're very, very close andall of that is all because of
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Brian, we're just going to talkabout him.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Until we're no longer here, he'll always be talked
about and thought about and, man, so just seeing that and that
impact, it's like what do wewant to do?
What do we want to do so thatwe can leave our legacy Right,
because you?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
definitely left one for sure yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And also, I think one of the questions that you all
brought up amongst yourselves islike why you know he was like
the same age as you, like 50,early 50s and why would God take
him away?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Because he had touched so many lives already.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Just imagine how many more lives Brian would have
touched if he was still living.
Yeah, but one good thing thatyou said is it has pushed you
all to be intentional withpeople, with each other.
I see you being moreintentional in a way that you
never were.
You reach out to people more.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
You pray for people, more like you're intentional
about connecting with people,yeah, like Brian was, yeah, and
that's that's every singleperson.
In our men's group we did say,because of Brian, we're
different.
You know we're different peopleand yeah, he, he's gone now,
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but I mean he lives on throughour activities, are, I don't
know how we carry, live ourlives now, cause it's different,
um, since his death and how wetry to be, um, I don't know.
We used to joke about you knowhow you have those things to say
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.
What would Jesus do?
So we talk about what wouldBrian do, and then it's like, ok
, I guess I do need to share myfaith or I do need to help this
person, because you know, brianwas always volunteering, helping
someone that he didn't evenknow who they were, helping
someone that he didn't even knowwho they were.
(18:36):
One story my last dinner I hadwith Brian, he was telling me a
story about he was out for awalk and he ran into this lady,
didn't know her, and she washaving trouble with her tire
because she had a flat tire, sheneeded to get to work or
whatever.
So Brian walked home, got hislittle kit and Brian always had
something and came back andtried to help this lady change
her tire and you know he wasdressed up at the time but he
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didn't care.
He got in there, helped thelady change her tire, um and um,
and it was crazy.
I mean it took him a couple ofhours because there was some
other complications going on,and but you know, just spending
that time with someone that youdidn't know, you're walking down
in your neighborhood and mostpeople would just keep keep it
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moving her help.
Brian volunteered it and thenhe went out of his way to um,
help her out, and then he knewabout at that.
After that conversation he, youknow, invited her to church and
he knew all about her life andshe shared stuff with Brian.
It was so personal, um, but youknow, once you meet him, you
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just you, just you just thinkyou've known him all your life,
uh and everything.
But uh, yeah, yeah, brian is um, he will definitely be missed.
But you know he did leave alegacy and you know, like you
said, the legacy of value isdefinitely the one that he, he
did.
You know, it's not just youknow, I think people we think
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about legacy is not just whenyou're gone, when you you know
what legacy you live, you leave,but how you live.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
How you live your life now will be a determining
factor, and what legacy that youleave article again that I
found was from Good Life Projectand it's how to leave a legacy
a counterintuitive approach tocrafting your life.
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So it literally says that it.
It's the first question is okay, how do you want to be
remembered?
What do you want to leave?
And that's what it says.
It's like we can't wait untilwe pass away and think, oh, we
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were, we magically left a legacy.
It's literally why we're livingis that we have to start.
And one of the things that itsays on here it was quoting a
rabbi, and Because when we talkabout stuff, I like to give you
tools.
You know, I like to researchstuff and it's like, okay, I
want to leave a legacy, so whatdo I do to get there?
And so there's a Rabbi, steveLeder, l-e-d-e-r, and he pretty
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much says, in order to startthinking about what kind of
legacy you want, in order tostart thinking about what kind
of legacy you want, he saysstart thinking about what's
important to you.
Like, really, really, reallystart thinking about what at
your core, who you are at yourcore.
You know this helps so that youavoid the trap that we call
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idolatry, where we centersomething we think we should
want, like money or a reputationor somebody else's idea of
success, and we make it a partof our identity and definition
of success.
And then we end up devoting somany of our lives to attaining
the symbol.
And then we wonder why we don'tfeel the way we want to feel.
And then we wonder why we don'tfeel the way we want to feel.
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And again in the articlethere's like two things to kind
of start sparking your you know,your, your mind, yeah, your
thought process.
And I took this.
Okay.
So I said sparking, like likeit's about to go into what I'm
about to say Spark typeassessment.
I've never heard of that.
So the spark type assessment,it's S-P-A-R-K-E-T-Y-P-E
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assessment and I took it.
So that assessment will helpyou find out what you were meant
to do on this earth, like whatkind of work, what motivates you
, what excites you.
And when I took it, it's legit,yeah, yeah, I just took it when
I was reading the article.
And another thing that therabbi says to do to start
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sparking, like what values arelying deep within you, like your
core there.
So there's 12 questions.
You ready for them?
We don't have to answer themright now, unless you want to
answer a few, no pressure, allright, there's 12 of them.
Number one what do you regret?
Two when was the time you ledwith your heart?
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Three what makes you happy?
Four what was your biggestfailure?
Number five what got youthrough your greatest challenge?
Six what is a good person?
Seven what is love?
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Number eight have you ever cutsomeone out of your life?
I'll answer that.
One yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.
I don't know what that means itsays about me, but yes.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Number nine, number people you've cut out your life.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, yeah yeah, number yeses.
Number nine how do you want tobe remembered?
I've been thinking about that alot for myself.
Uh, number 10 what is goodadvice?
11 what will your epitaphepitaph am I saying that right?
What will your epitaph?
Epitaph Am I saying that right?
What will your epitaph say?
And number 12, what will yourfinal blessing be?
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So those are good questions andI was like, I guess, to get you
thinking what you value, what'sinside of you, and you want me
to answer some of those you can.
That'd be riveting.
You would love that.
Yeah, which one would you liketo answer?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Felipe.
Uh, let's see here, man, let melook again.
What do you regret?
Huh, that's a good one.
I regret that's a, that's ahard one.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I honestly Because in some things.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I don't know if I want to.
Yeah, do I really regret it?
Yeah, I wouldn't be who I amexactly.
That's all I'm gonna say orI've achieved what I achieved if
I haven't hadn't had.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, that like incident, yeah, like years ago.
I'm sure I could have justrattled off all these regrets,
but I'm learning as I'm gettingolder that so many things that
we didn't like going through orwe thought was a mistake does
build character.
I have one, you do, yeah, what?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And this has nothing to do with like if I hadn't gone
through that I'd be betterbecause of it.
I have two and I wish I hadgotten to see my father before
he died.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I regret that because we were there, we were, there,
we were there, we were in LittleRock.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I was on my way to go visit him and I got a call from
my brother, john Kevin, sayingthat he was dead.
So I definitely regret that Ididn't get to see him before,
when he was alive, that thatmorning.
And then obviously, the secondone's the same thing with my
mother, because I actually, whenshe had her stroke, by the time
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I got to the hospital and flewhome she wasn't really there.
So I just regret not being ableto see them before they pass.
So that's my regret.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Sometimes I regret and I don't know if it's like a
big regret is not having acareer, because I always
envisioned me having a careerand being very successful at it
and I never pursued it a careerand being very successful at it,
and I never pursued it Right.
(26:55):
And I never want to blame oh, Igot married early or I got had
kids early, like that shouldn'teven.
That's just excuses I couldhave and I didn't Right.
So if I'm going to say anything, it would be that.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, I can definitely see that.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And it's not too late .
For me, however, it would havebeen nice to start earlier,
because you know, when so manyyears go by, you feel like you
wasted time.
So I try not to let my mind gothere.
I feel like there's, there'slike as long as we're breathing.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
You always have time to pursue what you want to do.
That's true.
It's funny because our pastorand I'll get back to the
questions.
This past Sunday, his wholesermon series is about legacy,
which is kind of ironic thatwe're talking about it now.
But nothing happens by chance.
And one of the things that hesaid that I wrote down, which I
thought was great, was legacydoesn't happen by chance.
And one of the things that hesaid that I wrote down which I
thought was great was legacydoesn't happen by chance, it
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happens by choice.
You know, what are the choiceswe're making now, the decisions
we make now, determines ourlegacy, which I thought was very
, very profound.
And you know just that.
You have to be intentionalabout what you're doing and your
choices, which I guess one ofthese questions.
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It said what?
What was the time you led withyour heart?
Can you answer that?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I can't think of anything specific, but I feel
like a lot of how I live my lifeis like feeling that intuition
and feeling led.
You know Corinne, when she ouryoungest daughter, you know when
she sees somebody on the sideof the road or feels like
someone needs something, why didyou give that person money but
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not the other person?
And honestly, it's like I feelled to do it.
It's like something within youthat leads you and I told her
not everyone is God's not goingto always put something on your
heart for every person that youencounter.
And so I know that when I getthat strong feeling and
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sensation for anything reallythat I have to follow it.
And even just the things that Italk about on this podcast,
there's some things that are solike it'll go days and it's that
the message is not going away.
It's not going away.
It's not going away.
My last episode, episode 100, Igot a few comments on that like
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good stuff, good feedback.
It's like how do you come upwith this stuff?
And how do you like, oh my gosh, you just flowed so nicely, it
was so impactful and I honestlyit's, I pray about things.
God gives me that, thatyearning or that feeling and I
run with it.
So I give him the glory that hegives me the words, or he gives
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me the, the topic, yeah, andnot even with just that, or he
he leads me to like help thisperson, give to this person
Cause I do love to give, but heputs it on my heart Like this
person needs you and I do it,and then I forget about it.
And then people years laterlike thank you so much, and I'm
(30:13):
just like I gave and didn't eventhink about it ever again.
Yeah, so that's when you knowit's, it's that you're, yeah, so
that's it.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Happens a lot for me yeah, and you know, back to
Brian, just as I was justthinking about him, you know we
would ask him all the time.
You know how did you meet?
You always have a story everyweek and he told us you know we
all he was talking abouteveryone in the men's group you
all have those sameopportunities every week.
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It's just a matter Are youpaying attention to come across
someone that needs you in sometype of way?
And it's true.
I mean, it's a choice, justlike you said here.
It does happen, but it happensby choice and the choices that
you make.
And I think all of us now are alot more aware of things, and
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people like Brian was because,yeah, things.
And people like Brian wasbecause, yeah, and his whole
thing was, we all have thoseopportunities.
And even going back to theretreat and I don't want to get
so religious on you, but one ofthe two of the biggest things
that we did there each time wewent on our retreat, was just go
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out in this field.
You know such a big place thatwe could just spread out and you
would not see another personand our whole thing was to be
quiet and listen to God.
And it was so surreal becauseyou actually got to hear God
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talk to you, and then we wouldcome back and talk about you
know what did God say to you?
You know what were you thinking.
And then you wonder why I can'tdo that.
You know, when we're back inour real lives, it's because,
kind of like what Brian said,because we're distracted.
Life, you know, god is alwaystalking to you.
It's the fact that we're justnot always listening.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
That's why I have it tattooed on my.
You know, be still is one ofthe things that I'm very
purposeful about is to just sit,and that's why I learned how to
meditate and that's why I'vetaken up yoga, so that I can be
one with my body and one with mymind and be still and be okay
being there.
And it's very, very hard.
It's very, very hard as humanswhen we have so many
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distractions.
So many distractions, mygoodness, and yeah, it's one of
those things that, yeah, beingstill, that's when you really
can listen to what yourintuition is telling you and
what your spirit is telling you.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Sure, sure, yeah, you're very in tune with that,
for sure, I'm trying to be Allright.
What makes you happy?
I'm going to be really cornyhere, but what makes me happy?
I'm gonna be really corny here,but what makes me happy is my
time with you.
That's what makes me happy socorny so cute.
(33:22):
So when we go on our vacationsjust us those are true vacations
.
We bring the kids, that's afamily trip.
But when we go on our vacationswe never argue, we never get
into it.
And we definitely get into itand argue at home, but when it's
just the two of us, it's alwaysjust amazing.
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We're definitely in sync, butthat makes me happy.
I get excited when we're aboutto go do something, just us.
That's sweet, especially onvacations, and you know, when
we're traveling somewhere I'm sofun yeah that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I'm so entertaining.
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
You are entertaining.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Okay, well, I guess I have to say what brings me
happiness is hanging out withyou two.
No, it does, but other than you, nature, nature, being with
nature.
I know some people don't liketo be outside.
They don't like the bugs, theydon't like, uh, the heat, they
don't like the cold.
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I, I love nature trees, beaches, water, um brings me peace.
So one more question, thenwe'll move on, because this is
getting the juices flowing.
What brings us joy?
And then, what do we do withall this information?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
That's true.
That's true.
I'll let you pick the question.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
How do you want to be remembered?
Ooh.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Dang, you would pick that one.
How do I want to be remembered?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I've already thought about that.
I wrote it down somewhere in ajournal, but I don't know which
journal because I have a few andmy friend Adrian's, like how do
you do that?
How do you have multiple goingat the same time?
I just pick up a book and startwriting.
I don't really.
How many journals do you?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
have.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
It's not that I have journals, it's like I have all
these different booklets I thinkI have through three right now
that I write down on that.
Oh, if I, if I can, off the topof my head, remember.
But I want to be remembered assomeone who was giving um, who
was compassionate, who thoughtabout others but also followed
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my convictions.
So when I say, you know I'veremoved people from my life, you
know those people might notthink I was compassionate or
thoughtful or kind, but you knowthose things have to happen in
order for me to be the bestversion of who I am, what God
has called me to be.
So I do remove negativity, or Iremove toxicity out of my life,
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no matter if I was rocking theboat.
I want to be remembered assomeone who's fearless, who
brought joy to people's lives,who, yeah, who someone that
people want to be around.
And if I'm not here that Iwould have, there'd be a hole
missing Right, right, like Iwould leave an emptiness Right.
(36:30):
Hole missing Right, right, likeI would leave an emptiness
Right.
But hopefully you guys canstill be joyful when you think
about you know what I did andhow I made you laugh.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
So, yeah, okay, all good vibes, that's a lot Okay.
Yeah, if I had to be really,really honest, how I want to be
remembered is someone that mypresence made you happy.
Just that simple.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So simple.
Maybe I should have just saidthat.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
All right.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
So in back to the article.
So once we take the test fromspark SPARK type assessment and
answer some of these questions,what's important to us?
So, now that we know our coretest values and who we are and
what we were meant to be and doon this earth, there is a
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professor of psychology, gabrielGabriel.
Is it Gabriel Gabrielle?
No, it's a female.
That's Gabrielle.
There you go, odington.
Okay, oting Otingan, don't youjust spell it out.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
That'd be better.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I'm sorry, gabrielle O-ting-en, o-ting, o-ting-en.
Anyways, she's a professor ofpsychology, I just butchered her
name.
She has a concept that shedeveloped and it's the WHOOP
concept.
So W-O-O-P, so this is what weneed to do for our goals and
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planning on how to leave alegacy.
So this is what WHOOP standsfor.
It says it works like this theW is wish.
You start out by making a wishand think about your greatest
wishes for your legacy, and whatdo they look like.
And think about your greatestwishes for your legacy, and what
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do they look like.
The first O is outcome.
It says then, envision theoutcome.
What's the best possibleoutcome for you here?
How will you know you'vesucceeded?
This is why it's important toget at your core motivation for
leaving a legacy first.
So that's why it's so importantto know at our core what makes
us tick.
Otherwise, how will you be ableto figure out the conditions of
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success?
The second O is obstacles.
Think about the things thatmight get in the way of you
being able to leave the legacyyou want.
Brainstorm a list.
Just let your mind come up withany and everything that might
get in the way, no matter howweird or unlikely it is.
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Then prioritize those obstaclesbased on how likely it is that
they'll happen and how much of abig deal it'll be if they
happen.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Oh, that's a good part, yeah, how likely would
they happen.
Oh, that's a good part, yeah,how likely would they happen.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
How likely is it that they'll happen and how much of
a big deal it'll be if theyhappen.
Because sometimes, especiallyas anxious folk, we have all the
things that could happen and alot of them are very
catastrophic.
So this is a good exercise.
And then it's like the questionis like what?
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If it does happen, then what?
And the P stands for plans,using that list of obstacles,
create.
And in quotes it says if, thenplans.
If, then plans For eachobstacle, make a plan of if
obstacle A happens, I'll do B,or when obstacle C happens, then
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I'll do D.
For instance, you might say,when I get distracted by daily
life, I'll make sure to comeback to my legacy goal with a
weekly journaling check-in.
So I think that helps withobstacles, because I think a lot
of times that's what stops allof us from moving forward with
our passions or our purpose orwhatever.
It's these obstacles and Ithink, if we sit down
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realistically and look at them,a lot of these obstacles are
just challenges that we canovercome.
And I know for myself I'll justlet those obstacles just sit
there and I stand right in frontof them and I'm like I'll just
let those obstacles just sitthere and I stand right in front
of them and I'm like I can'tmove forward because they're in
the way.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Almost all obstacles are something that you can plan,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
But people like you.
So see, you are a kind ofperson that there's obstacles in
your way.
It's a challenge.
You love it, like what can I doto overcome this?
It doesn't yeah, it motivatesyou.
It doesn't scare you Me, itputs a little fear in my spirit,
like now what I thought thiswas my path, and there's this
big old, giant obstacle.
What do I do with it?
Speaker 2 (41:20):
You know I thought about that and you've mentioned
that before.
But I got that from my mother,yeah, before.
But I got that from my mother,yeah, because she always told me
I killed Kent a long time ago.
My mom was kind of graphicabout it too, because she said I
took Kent out in the field andI killed him.
I was like what'd you kill himwith?
She said with a shotgun.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
But so then I can see why you have no fear because
you're like shit man.
There's no is.
He died a long time ago.
I saw him.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I said you know laugh about that.
But yeah, I definitely thinkthat that was because of her,
For sure.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
So, like you said earlier, you know, people tend
to think of legacy purely interms of something that happens
after you die.
This is what the article says,but the truth is legacies are
formed while you're alive, andthe best way to leave a legacy
is to live it day by day.
And it says also that you know,we like to think that you know
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our lives, like living ourlegacy is like these big things,
like I, you know, I have tostart a company from scratch or
I have to write this book, andit can just be little things,
like little daily things is whatit says.
And it says here yeah.
Little choices, little, justlittle daily things, it says.
(42:48):
And how do you figure out whatthat might look like on a
practical level?
This is where things come backto knowing what you're here to
do and what your values are.
You can use those two things asa true north to help you figure
out what living your legacylooks like on a day-to-day basis
.
If something aligns with thatultimate purpose and is a way of
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acting on one of your values,you know you're on the right
track.
If not, it's time to reassess.
And we all know we.
We all know in our spirit, likewhen something feels right and
when something feels off, true.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
A lot of it.
Sometimes we just ignore it.
Yeah, we do Keep it moving.
Yep, Then you've made a poordecision.
Yeah, or a poor choice becauseyou didn't listen to that which
is, you know.
That is your spirit.
That's the whole purpose ofyour spirit is to guide you.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
So at the end, I'm going to read this.
These are not.
This is not my recap.
Read this.
These are not.
This is not my recap.
This is the recap on thearticle, to sum up what we just
talked about.
So, number one the desire toleave a legacy seems to be
innate to humans.
Research shows that it's a wayof preserving the essence of
yourself after you die, and ithelps make sense of the end of
(44:02):
life.
Number two there are lots ofdifferent motivations for
leaving a legacy and many waysto go about it.
Spend some time thinking aboutthe area in which you want to
leave your legacy, so you knowwhere to concentrate your energy
.
Number three once you know whattype of legacy you want to
leave, spend some timeconsidering your core
(44:23):
motivations, purpose and values.
This will help you determinewhat actions you need to take as
part of building your legacy.
Four, planning is key.
Once you have your coremotivation and area of impact
figured out, use the whoopframework to get a plan in place
.
And lastly, a legacy isn'tgoing to just somehow magically
(44:45):
happen after you die.
You live your legacy intoexistence and a lot of the times
, the ways you do that aresmaller than you'd think
Routines and rituals areespecially powerful here.
So that's a summary of what weall need to do, and I've been
thinking a lot about my legacyso many times.
(45:06):
As much as I love podcasting,so many times I get so flustered
and bothered and it's mostly inmy head, but I feel like this
is part of who I am.
So, like the test that I took,the Spark type assessment, it
basically says this like, whatI'm doing is bringing people
(45:26):
together oh gosh, it came off mycomputer.
Oh, yeah, it says that I'm Idon't know.
I'm going to do the result.
Yeah, this is my result.
Yes, Spark type test.
And that spark type test tellsyou what you should be doing,
what your purpose is, whatbrings you joy, like what lights
you up.
(45:47):
And it says that I am anadvisor.
So what I like is coaching,mentoring, being there for
people, building relationships,bringing people together in
small groups, which is like what, yeah?
Or like what I want to do withthe podcast is like doing many
(46:08):
events and like hopefully oneday doing bigger events where
we're bringing women togetherand I say women, it could be
anybody, but mostly women, forme is, and so I took the test
and I was like okay, that'sthat's.
It puts you on kind ofvalidates.
If you already feel thatinwardly and if you're lost of
(46:28):
like what is my purpose, itgives you some direction.
So I take you to take that test.
Oh, I took it while you weresitting there.
It was I don't know five, 10minutes.
Okay.
I'll take it after, I know, Iknow, anyways, and then it tells
you and then there's like asecondary, and then there's like
what you don't like to do.
So you know what it says aboutme, what do you not like to do?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I can imagine.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
It says I don't like to clean up big messes.
Wait, what did it?
Oh, it says the Essentialistthat's the name is all about
creating order from chaos,distilling, simplifying,
organizing systems and processes.
So I guess I don't like to dothat Like, if it's like big and
it makes sense, because at work,at the office, that's what I
(47:13):
don't like to do Like, whenthere's a lot happening and big
emotions and people just allover the place, I hate dealing
with that.
I need people to get ittogether and let's move in a
positive way.
So I said, okay, that makessense.
I was like, no, I likeorganization and simplifying,
but no, not when there's a lotof chaos.
(47:33):
You love chaos.
So, anyways, I can't wait to seeyour results.
So you guys take the test and Iwould love to hear, like, what
everyone comes up with.
And it's the Spark type testAssessment Assessment
S-P-A-R-K-E-T-Y-P-E assessmentAssessment.
And it was free and it wasquick.
Oh, that's the key word is free.
(47:53):
It's free.
Yeah, I'm sure they want tosell you a book or if you want
more details, you probably haveto sign up for something, but
yeah, so, philip, leaving alegacy in our older age, that's
what we need to focus on.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
A hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
And that's what we are focusing on.
Yeah, that's been a big part ofhow you live your life now.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Choices that you make , the decisions that you make
now Determine our legacy.
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Because when I'm no longer here, I want people to
show up and show out.
I want everyone wearing purple.
I've said this before Everyoneneeds to wear purple and we need
to put on some reggaeton, and Ineed some dancing going on.
That's it.
Celebrate, celebrate,celebration of life, yeah, yeah.
(48:40):
So I'll leave you all with this.
Legacy is not leaving somethingfor people, it's leaving
something in people.
So I want to thank you.
Oh, okay, it wasn't my quote.
I wish I made it up.
I want to thank you all again.
Happy Mother's Day to all youmommies out there.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Happy Mother's Day.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
And, as always, thank you, philip, for coming on.
I always love being here withyou.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Same.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
And chit-chatting.
Yes, till next time, all right,bye.
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