October 30, 2025 • 31 mins
In this episode of the "Living in Mexico" series, I sit down with my husband to have an honest conversation about why so many people are fleeing to Mexico in 2025. We talk about being part of a massive wave of reverse migration, what it means to be children of immigrants returning to the motherland, and why the timing couldn't feel more right (or necessary).
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What You'll Hear:
- Where we fit as second-generation Mexican Americans in this reverse migration movement
- Our honest take on being dual citizens and how we're different from expats
- How the current US political climate is pushing our community out, and why fleeing to safety doesn't make us any less American
Resources Mentioned:
- Free Masterclass: "How to Get Your Mexican Dual Citizenship" - Thursday, November 13th at 7:00 PM CT
- Cost of living comparison tool
- Listen to our previous 'Living in Mexico' series episodes
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Jessica (00:00):
we have been able to, uh, flee the US and go to the
(00:06):
motherland.
But we can also return.
And I know that there's many,many families that are either
self deporting or who have beendetained and deported to go and
basically be forced to move backto their motherland, uh, their
own countries like Mexico.
And so our perspective is verydifferent because we did it out
of choice.
Yeah.
Out of, I don't know.
(00:27):
Out of privilege.
Out of privilege.
Yeah.
(01:36):
Ola Ola.
Welcome to the Viva La MommyPodcast.
I'm your host, Jessica Cuevas.
And this is another episode ofThe Living in Mexico series and
I have my husband with me today.
Alex, if you haven't beenlistening or watching our
episodes, uh, my husband hasbeen here, Che.
(01:59):
Y'all love the cheese me.
And because we are specificallytalking about our life here in
Mexico, we are currently in LeonGuanajuato, and together my
husband and I, and our two boysand Kat recently moved to Mexico
from Chicago.
We were both born and raised inChicago, and because our family
(02:20):
comes from Mexico, we were like,why not?
Why don't we just move toMexico?
And obviously there have beenvarious reasons why we decided
to.
Go back to the motherland, but Ithink as we shared a lot about
our experience, whether if itwas on Instagram or previous
episodes, I think that there hasbeen a big wave of people moving
(02:43):
back to the motherland,specifically Mexico.
And so as part of this week'sepisode, we're definitely gonna
talk about why people are movingto Mexico.
And I think this is a veryimportant topic because there's
various reasons why, and I thinkwe'll be sharing a little bit
more about our true reasonbehind it, but as well as what
(03:04):
we've seen with other peoplethat we know.
Uh, so yeah, I don't know, Alex,we can start out about why.
Did we decide to move to Mexico?
First of all?
Alex (03:16):
Uh, I guess I can take that one first.
'cause my reason is probably alot shorter than yours.
I
Jessica (03:20):
can go on.
I know.
Alex (03:22):
Yeah, for sure.
No, but for me, my biggestreason, uh, that I wanted to
just be like, let's just leaveour life in Chicago and come
over here, was just basicallythe experience, right?
I mean, as you, I mean, I'm not.
Hope I don't sound like if I'm60 or 70 years old.
Right.
But like as you get older, youstart to realize that life is
(03:45):
precious, right?
So why not explore what's outthere outside of your homeland?
So that was my biggest reason,is just to go out and explore
and, you know, while we're stillyoung, we're still healthy.
Um mm-hmm.
See what's out there in Mexico.
Yeah.
That was my biggest reason.
Jessica (04:04):
Yeah, I, I can definitely see that.
And I think because we havelived in Chicago or all our
lives, I think we were ready fora fresh start, a new slate, and
I think that.
I think everything fell at theright place for us.
And if you haven't heard aboutour story, please uh, listen and
(04:27):
watch our episodes.
I will link them in the shownotes and, uh, that way you can
kind of know the, the backgroundbehind it and our reason,
reasons why we decided to move.
But I think that is a reallygood one and for me specifically
on top of that.
I think for me it's.
It was because of costs andtrying to figure out a better
(04:49):
way of living.
Not that I'm saying that we'reliving this luxurious life.
I think we're living prettymoderately, uh, but I think we
are able to feel a little bit offreedom when it comes to going
out, you know, hanging out, um,and, and really knowing that our
(05:11):
money is going towards.
Things where we don'tnecessarily get to complain.
Mm-hmm.
Or know that we will struggle,uh, from, so yeah.
And, and I know that there's alot of families right now,
specifically in the UnitedStates that are struggling.
I think there's just a lot ofcrap that is going on right now
(05:33):
in the US and I know that we'renot the only ones.
Actually many families that havebeen reaching out to me that
they have made the move or arethinking about making the move.
And that is so that, so thatthey can have a better quality
of life in a different country.
Uh, because, you know, Rita,it's, it's not easy to live in
(05:56):
the US and especially asLatinos.
It's, it's been verychallenging.
Alex (06:01):
Scary too.
Jessica (06:01):
It's very scary.
And, and I know that.
we come from a level ofprivilege because we have been
able to, uh, flee the US and goto the motherland.
But we can also return.
And I know that there's many,many families that are either
self deporting or who have beendetained and deported to go and
(06:24):
basically be forced to move backto their motherland, uh, their
own countries like Mexico.
And so our perspective is verydifferent because we did it out
of choice.
Yeah.
Out of, I don't know.
Out of privilege.
Out of privilege.
Yeah.
And that's what has been kind ofhard for at least me, just
trying to understand like.
(06:45):
You know, um, our place, ourspot here in Mexico, but also in
the US and how, you know, Idon't think we're affecting
much, but I just think about thefamilies
Alex (06:58):
Yeah.
That are forced.
I mean, getting back to thatsubject, we're not affecting
anybody in any way.
I mean, again, like if you thinkabout gentrification, I mean the
definition itself is like,wealthy people moving into a
poor area, right?
We're not wealthy.
And we're definitely not in apoor area.
So yeah.
I mean, there's a lot of peoplehere too that have welcomed us.
(07:19):
Who weren with open arms?
You, nobody, we haven't felt anyhostility.
I haven't, except from thegovernment that that's a
different topic for a differentshow.
You've been that.
Yeah.
Which we'll definitely talkabout that.
Yeah.
But other than that, I mean, no,I mean, I have, I, I felt
nothing but warmth here fromeverybody.
Jessica (07:37):
Yeah.
And I think people get it too.
Yeah.
Uh, you know, when I went to getmy, uh, which is like the voting
card here in Mexico, uh, when Iwent there to, to get mine.
The lady was like, oh no.
And I was like, well, andbasically telling her, you know,
(08:02):
we just decided to move toMexico because it, it sucks over
there.
And she was like, yeah, I getit.
I understand you're not thefirst person today.
And granted this was like at9:00 AM when I went.
Uh, to apply for my INE and shewas saying that there is
basically an influx of peoplethat are going to the INE
(08:24):
offices and trying to get theirvoter cards, uh, because they're
returning back, whether if theywere immigrants in the US or
they are children of immigrants.
But it's a pretty common thing.
And just hearing the storiesabout people that are.
Fleeing to Mexico, basically.
(08:44):
Uh, there's different reasons,but I think that we all share,
um, this kind of commonality andthey understand.
They're like, ah, I get it.
I get it.
Yeah.
I understand why you're cominghere.
Alex (08:59):
Yeah.
And just this year alone, 2025,there's been about, what was it,
like 1.6 million US citizensthat have.
Moved here to Mexico for variousreasons.
Right.
But that's just a quick littleeffect just to show you guys
that mm-hmm.
We're not the only ones that wewon't be the only ones that
relocate here.
Mm-hmm.
Jessica (09:16):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it makes it interestingbecause we're part of that 1.6
million.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm sure that everyone hasdifferent reasons behind it, but
I think.
Where does that put us though?
In, in a category?
We are dual citizens.
Mm-hmm.
Our parents we're immigrants,you know, from uh, Mexico to the
(09:40):
us.
And so it's not like we arewhite folks that are retired and
wanna have a life here so thatthe quality of life is better.
Mm-hmm.
And taking on, you know, um,Medicare and Social Security
because that's not us.
Mm-hmm.
And so where does that put us?
Alex (09:58):
Where category of our own.
I see.
Jessica (10:03):
Yeah.
And, and I'd be curious aboutthat specific number about
families who are.
Second generation or you know,they're mexicanos just like us,
that we're children ofimmigrants.
Where does is there such acategory, I guess?
And in last week's episode wetalked a lot about
(10:26):
gentrification.
And I asked out there onlineabout whether if you think we
are gentrifying or not.
And so some people were like,sí, and other people were like,
no, you're not.
And other people were like, wellactually you are repatriating,
if that's a word.
So we are part of like therepatriation, meaning that we're
essentially doing the reversemigration.
(10:48):
Um, and, and that is big and,and that is huge.
And we are part of that group, Ithink.
Um, but I, I think a lot of, uh,times when, when you think about
categories, you know, when youthink about buckets and putting
people into specific things,like I don't, I haven't heard
(11:11):
much yet about.
Reverse migration in terms oflike children of immigrants
going back mm-hmm.
To the family's motherland.
You definitely hear aboutexpats, which I hate that word.
You hear about, you know, theretirees again, but it's only
those white Americans that,they're the gentrifiers, I would
(11:31):
say, I'm
Alex (11:31):
sorry, I was such a dumb phrase, expats.
Right?
That's right.
Jessica (11:37):
I know he needs it.
Yeah.
I, I, I'm not a fan of iteither.
And essentially you're basicallyimmigrating to a different
country.
And as long as you do itcorrectly and you do it legally,
then know that there are ways incoming to Mexico.
Um, but if you're just going toMexico and overstay your visa
(11:58):
and everything, Hmm.
Well that sounds familiar,right?
And, and so, yeah.
and with the whole status rightnow with, with the U.S.,
there's.
I think it's just, I don't know.
I feel like the US is justpushing people away, like
whether if you were born thereor not, you know?
Yeah.
(12:18):
Like it's just making people togo outside of the US and live
outside of the us.
Alex (12:26):
Yeah.
It's just, we're living in veryinteresting times, to say the
least.
Right.
I mean.
I don't know.
I have so many, just to keepthis video short, right?
I mean, but I have so manythoughts, so many feelings about
what's going on right now in ourhomeland.
Right now.
I still consider Chicago ourhome, you know?
But it is just sad that you havea president that is basically
(12:52):
turning.
The whole country against eachother as opposed to moving it
forward.
Yep.
Sad.
Jessica (12:58):
It is very sad, and especially knowing that our
community is being attacked
Alex (13:03):
single handedly
Jessica (13:05):
because the way that you look, because of the type of
job that you have, because ofthe quote unquote accent that
you have, or lack of Englishproficiency.
Uh, I just hate that because theUS was built because of
immigrants.
Like immigrants are the backboneof the US and, and it puts us in
(13:32):
an interesting position becauseI don't know about you, but I've
definitely have gotten a lot ofjust praise and comments.
You know, nothing that peopleare saying out of, um, jealousy.
Ro a lot of people are saying,man, y'all moved at the right
time.
Y'all moved at the perfect timebecause I would not wanna be
(13:54):
here.
And, and while a lot of peoplethought that we left because of
this new administration, whichit's only been how many months?
And it feels like 40 years.
Alex (14:06):
It feels
Jessica (14:07):
like a long time ago.
And, and yeah, so like thetiming couldn't be perfect at
that, like when you think aboutit, but it also hurts.
It hurts me knowing that there'sso many people like me, people
in my community suffering rightnow in the US and I won't blame
you if you decide to move.
(14:29):
To Mexico or wherever yourfamily's from, and you decide to
go back to the motherland.
Um, or if you decide to come toMexico, even if you're not, uh,
Mexicano or Mexicana, like, Hey,you're welcome here.
Just make sure to do thingsright.
Alex (14:43):
Yeah.
Even the president, shame bomb,shame bomb.
She even said it too, thateverybody's welcome, just like
how you mentioned.
That as long as you do it right.
Right.
Complete 180 from what thepresident of the United States
is saying.
Mm-hmm.
Jessica (14:56):
Trying to kick everyone out.
Yeah.
So it, it's, yeah.
It, it's a full ethniccleansing, what they're trying
to do when clearly, let's thinkabout who were the first, first
people in that country.
Right.
But yeah, I don't wanna go on afull rant about that.
Um, but needless to say that thecurrent status of what's going
(15:21):
on in the United States aboutdetaining people, deporting
people, just overalldiscrimination, like I can see
why people are deciding to fleethe us.
F and go towards a better life.
And you know, we definitely havebeen reflecting a lot about not
(15:41):
just that specific topic, butalso just like costs and how
different it is in, um,affording a life here versus the
us.
You know, we are now able tohave gym memberships when that
was basically a luxury in theus.
Like we weren't able to afford afreaking gym membership and I'm
(16:02):
talking about Planet Fitness.
Okay.
Not to bash Planet Fitness, butlike, I mean, we weren't, we had
to prioritize on other things.
This time now that we are inMexico, we've been able to send
our kids to school and
Alex (16:16):
private school and
Jessica (16:17):
it's private school, right?
But tuition is significantlyless than if you were to take
them to daycare becausetechnically Mateo.
It is still like a daycarechild, right?
He's two and a half years old.
He wouldn't qualify for freepreschool, and that's if your
state offers free preschool.
Diego luckily did when he wasthree, uh, in CPS in the Chicago
(16:39):
public public schools, but forpreschool alone and daycare here
in Mexico, it's significantlyless.
I mean, we're talking aboutthousand, a thousand
Alex (16:49):
dollars no more.
Jessica (16:51):
Well per kid.
Oh yeah.
So$2,000.
Alex (16:53):
Yeah.
Jessica (16:54):
Yeah.
We're saving ourselves$2,000 amonth on just daycare.
Mm-hmm.
So it just gives you perspectiveabout the cost of living.
And again, we're speaking out ofprivilege, right?
Because you were able to keepyour job, uh, and, you know,
we're working remotely.
I'm also working like I, I'm acontract worker and I'm able to
(17:15):
do that.
Um, and we have a rental orinvestment property in Chicago,
and so whatever we get from therent, you know, it applies
towards our cost of living.
So yes, we come from a very, um,
Alex (17:31):
privileged, privileged and
Jessica (17:33):
it's a very unique situation.
I would say Ro we decided tomove into a city, right, where
it's pretty comparable toChicago.
I know that there's so manypeople who.
Are fleeing to s you know,because they want a better
quality of life, but they wannahave less costs and so.
(17:54):
The good thing about Mexico isthat there's a lot of options.
You know, you can choose whetherif you wanna move into a big
city like Leon Guadalajara,Mexico City and all that, um, or
you can choose like moderate,you know, kind of pueblo.
So I'm thinking like.
Manuel Doblado, which is themunicipio where my family is
from.
It's a decent city.
(18:15):
It's growing.
It's booming.
Yeah.
It's growing.
Yeah.
Or it could be like our Rancho,you know where my family is from
in San Jose de Otates.
And that is small and that's, Imean, it's rural.
It's really rural.
It's Rancho.
Yeah.
At least where your dad's from.
I mean, it's a, you have astore.
Pueblo.
It's a Pueblo, yeah.
You have a plaza.
(18:35):
Yeah.
Ours doesn't.
So the good thing is thatthere's different options and.
If you are a child of immigrantsand you are curious about like
going back to where your familyis from, that is even better
because you could possibly havefree housing, you know?
Mm-hmm.
With your Aita house or youknow, your T's house or
(18:55):
something like that while you'retrying to situate yourself here.
Uh, and so I think that's areally cool thing that we can
leverage ourselves up.
And if you've ever thought aboutthe prospect of moving to
Mexico, there's always apossibility.
It's just a matter of thinkingabout, well, first of all, if
(19:17):
I'm in a partner relationship,are we both in agreement?
Mm-hmm.
And then I don't know there'sanything,
Alex (19:23):
no, I mean, I guess it's just a matter of personal
preference, right?
Mm-hmm.
I mean, if you wanna move totoand you're comfortable with that
type of lifestyle, by all means,go ahead.
Like for us, I mean, I.
I'm sorry.
I mean, we, we used the wordprivilege a lot, right?
I mean, we, we came fromChicago.
I mean, we are used toaccustomed to a certain life,
right?
Mm-hmm.
I mean, we, we like to walk toplaces.
(19:46):
I mean, we like to exploredifferent places, see sites, and
it is not that you don't getthat in, in Ranchito, but it's,
it's more so like we, we wannasee like.
Old school buildings.
I see.
Like architect architecture asopposed to like ranch.
All you seen are beautifulmountains.
Right.
Like goats and your typicalranch stuff.
(20:07):
And that's something that we, Iknow I didn't want.
Yeah.
It's cool to, like, let's saylike if you're having a rough
week or whatever, like work inthe city, go out to the, to the
ranchito and then just chill outfor the weekend.
Mm-hmm.
That, that, you know, that'ssomething that we would do.
We do.
Yeah.
Jessica (20:23):
Yeah, we definitely do.
Like recently we will move, wemoved, we, we visited my, my
aita and we did not expect a, aparty on a Sunday, Sunday night,
night,
Alex (20:35):
Grupo, boo
Jessica (20:38):
tequila, lots of tequila, and the kids didn't
sleep well.
But that's, that's how it is.
I mean, it's, it's a differentculture and, and that's
something that if you arethinking about moving to Mexico,
that you should be open aboutlike.
Not bringing your Americanism toMexico, because
Alex (20:56):
it's a slower pace of life.
Jessica (20:58):
It is.
It's so different.
Alex (21:00):
It's slower pace of life, but not when you get inside of a
car.
No traffic.
That's a completely differentstory.
Jessica (21:06):
Yeah.
Yeah.
People just drive
Alex (21:09):
while it's over here.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Jessica (21:12):
Not as bad as like China, because I remember when I
went to Beijing, people werebad.
I mean, must
Alex (21:19):
travel over here.
Jessica (21:22):
No, just like for context, you know, because yeah,
like people kind of respect the,the road, the rules of the road,
but there's still a handful ofpeople when you're like, there,
que.
Alex (21:34):
That's debatable.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, and it is my experience,I don't know.
Jessica (21:38):
And then kind of comparing what it's like to live
in a city in Mexico versus archito like actually right now my
parents are.
Literally fleeing to Mexico aswell.
So they're also part of thiswave of like people who are
(22:01):
moving back to their owncountry.
And literally, and, and I hateit when people s you know, when
you hear comments unlikeFacebook and stuff like that,
like when people say, go back toyour country.
Yeah.
And now it's like, okay, I'llgo, I'll go to my country
because it's way better thanthis country.
And, and I don't think, myparents That wasn't the reason
(22:24):
why they made the decision tomove to Mexico, but they are in
this new kind of stage in theirlives when they want simplicity,
they want.
You know, space, affordability,affordability.
E.
They decided to leave everythingbehind And so when you compare
(22:46):
their way of living.
Uh, versus ours, you know, oursis very city-like.
Mm-hmm.
Like we have accessibility toeverything, all the resources at
our disposal.
But my family, like my parentsand my grandparents, they've
been living in Mexico for like20 plus years, um, after they
retired.
They have a different lifestyle.
(23:08):
They have a different way ofliving.
And just to give you like a costcomparison, like.
Right now we are living in arental like how I, we shared and
we spend about 20,000 pesos amonth.
Alex (23:22):
Roughly a thousand, 1000 1100 bucks.
US, yeah.
Jessica (23:26):
US dollars.
And it's a three bedroom, twoand a half bathroom house.
Um, it's very spacious.
Yeah.
As you can see, if you'rewatching on YouTube, like we
have a big patio in thebackground.
Uh, right now we are in thedining room, um, and there's
like a.
Kitchen.
So it's very spacious.
Um, pretty well for our family.
(23:49):
Perro, if you were to build ahouse in, in Rancho.
I mean, it would cost a lot ofmoney upfront.
Yeah.
You do have to pay the money.
You have to pay in cash to buildyour home, but guess what?
You don't have a mortgage afterthat.
Mm.
And especially if you were givenland like my dad was, that was
(24:11):
the only kind of inheritancethat he got.
He was given land, and so theyare building in the land that my
dad was given from mygrandparents.
Alex (24:20):
Yeah.
And I think your grandfathershared with me that he.
Paid around a little over ahundred thousand dollars to
build his house.
Mm.
And it's a huge house.
Jessica (24:28):
Yeah.
Where my grandparents live.
Yeah.
I mean, what is it?
How many bedrooms is it
Alex (24:31):
four bedrooms?
Jessica (24:32):
Four bedrooms and two baths.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Four bedrooms, two baths,
Alex (24:36):
balcony,
Jessica (24:37):
balcony, like a Yeah, it's so pretty.
It's beautiful.
Yeah.
Uh, and, and, yeah.
And this was back then, like in2005, I think.
Yeah, 2004.
So maybe the costs have risenbecause of like, you know,
materials.
I think my parents might bespending maybe like one 50 or
(24:58):
200 grand.
I don't know.
Alex (25:00):
Shit, that's still a lot of money to, it's a
Jessica (25:02):
lot of money upfront.
Upfront.
But if
Alex (25:06):
you're not tied into a mortgage for 30 years, right?
So, yeah, I mean, I guess it'sjust whatever, whatever is
convenient for the individual,right?
Mm-hmm.
I mean, it's like you get, whatis it like, like in estates,
right?
Like for, uh, the type ofbuilding, that type of housing
that they're building.
It's what?
400,000?
500,000?
(25:27):
With the, what, like a mortgageof$2,000 every month more
probably.
Or drop the$200,000 right upfront.
And then you live No, nopayments after that?
Jessica (25:37):
No, no.
You might have to pay like inSTOs, you know, obviously like
taxes.
Wait, how long is that?
Yeah.
How often is that?
I think it's like once a year.
I think my grandparents spend,like my mom told me, but it's a
ridiculous amount of money.
I mean, we're talking hundreds,like less.
I think my mom's said like 50,like a hundred.
I don't know.
It's a ridiculous amount of likehow minimal.
(25:59):
Minuscule, yeah.
Like the amount of taxes thatone pays for their lot.
Uh, and now granted, this is in,right, I don't know how much it
would be in a city like Leonwhere you would have to pay for
taxes and, and there are ways tofinance a home.
Like you don't have to put themoney up front, like how it is
to build a home.
(26:20):
Um.
And yeah, and I'm pretty surethat they, my parents could
possibly finance, but that'ssomething that they don't wanna
do.
Uh, but just to give you thatperspective, that there are
different options.
There's always options.
There's so many options to moveto Mexico and figure out where
(26:40):
you'd wanna live.
Like right now, we are takingthis year in, staying in this
rental.
But we are interested in buyingproperty and seeing where we go
from there.
Alex (26:52):
And if we find something good in our budget.
I'm breaking this lease.
I'm sorry, but I'm breaking.
He's actively
Jessica (26:59):
looking.
Alex (27:00):
No, I mean, it's, it, it is what it is, right?
I mean, you can't, we can'tcomplain.
We got a good house.
I mean, it's a nice house, but Imean, I don't know.
Jessica (27:09):
Yeah.
He's just, uh, if you haven'theard previous episodes, you
know, there's reasons why he'shaving a hard time on.
Yeah.
Alex (27:16):
It's just, I don't know.
For the amount of money thatwe're paying, I think we're,
should get something a littlebit more modern, but I guess it
is what it's,
Jessica (27:23):
yeah.
Yeah.
So if you are curious aboutmoving to Mexico or if you've
already moved to Mexico withyour family, let us know.
You can always reach me atpodcast@vivalamami.com.
Or you can send me a DM at@vivalamami on Instagram and we
can just chat about yourexperience and if you are a
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descendant of Mexico.
Whether if it's your parents orone of your parents who were
born in Mexico and you haven'tyet earned your dual
citizenship, well now is yourtime to sign up for my
masterclass.
I am offering a free masterclassthat's coming up on Thursday,
November 13th at 7:00 PM CentralTime, and it'll be live where I
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will be there and I will be.
Kind of giving you tips and, aroadmap of what it's like in
getting your dual citizenship inMexico.
This is specifically in Mexico.
The holidays are coming up, soyou're most likely visiting your
familia in Mexico and might aswell just do your dual
citizenship here and it is veryeasy, trust me.
(28:30):
And so if you are interested.
I will be sharing the link toregister in the show notes as
well as in the description ofthis YouTube, video.
And yeah, I hope you can makeit.
Alex (28:41):
And one more thing I just want to add, um, one thing you
want to consider whilerelocating is the cost, right?
Mm-hmm.
And, uh, if you guys areinterested.
We can possibly maybe just giveyou guys like a rough estimate
as to how much we spent torelocate a family of four all
the way from Chicago over here.
Let Jessica know.
Jessica (29:01):
Yeah.
We're more than
Alex (29:01):
happy to her share that.
Jessica (29:02):
Yeah, thanks for offering that.
We definitely have likespreadsheets, we have cost
comparisons.
There's also a tool, uh, thatI've shared in previous episodes
and I can link it in the shownotes as well.
But yeah, I think what'simportant is to build community.
With other people that, thathave done this.
You know, we, we have been intouch with so many people that
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have made the move to Mexico andthey've given us so many great
tips, so many great suggestionsand recommendations, and I think
our way of.
Giving that back is to sharingour wisdom, our experience,
because I don't like togatekeep, I don't like to keep
things on the down low, youknow, on the hush hush because
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that's not our community, that'snot our as Latinos.
And so we like, you know, tochisme, we like to share
overshare, and that's why we'rehere.
So if you have any furtherquestions or any, uh,
suggestions on topics, uh, aspart of the Living in Mexico
series, please feel free toreach out.
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I'm always open to receivingthat feedback.
And if you still wanna have Alexon the show, let me know because
I know that he's very popular.
Alex (30:16):
Oh, she's already kicking me out.
No,
Jessica (30:17):
I'm not, but.
All right, AMI.
Well, thank you so much forlistening in the next episode.
Right.
we have been able to, uh, flee the US and go to the
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motherland.
But we can also return.
And I know that there's many,many families that are either
self deporting or who have beendetained and deported to go and
basically be forced to move backto their motherland, uh, their
own countries like Mexico.
And so our perspective is verydifferent because we did it out
of choice.
Yeah.
Out of, I don't know.
(00:27):
Out of privilege.
Out of privilege.
Yeah.
(01:36):
Ola Ola.
Welcome to the Viva La MommyPodcast.
I'm your host, Jessica Cuevas.
And this is another episode ofThe Living in Mexico series and
I have my husband with me today.
Alex, if you haven't beenlistening or watching our
episodes, uh, my husband hasbeen here, Che.
(01:59):
Y'all love the cheese me.
And because we are specificallytalking about our life here in
Mexico, we are currently in LeonGuanajuato, and together my
husband and I, and our two boysand Kat recently moved to Mexico
from Chicago.
We were both born and raised inChicago, and because our family
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comes from Mexico, we were like,why not?
Why don't we just move toMexico?
And obviously there have beenvarious reasons why we decided
to.
Go back to the motherland, but Ithink as we shared a lot about
our experience, whether if itwas on Instagram or previous
episodes, I think that there hasbeen a big wave of people moving
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back to the motherland,specifically Mexico.
And so as part of this week'sepisode, we're definitely gonna
talk about why people are movingto Mexico.
And I think this is a veryimportant topic because there's
various reasons why, and I thinkwe'll be sharing a little bit
more about our true reasonbehind it, but as well as what
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we've seen with other peoplethat we know.
Uh, so yeah, I don't know, Alex,we can start out about why.
Did we decide to move to Mexico?
First of all?
Alex (03:16):
Uh, I guess I can take that one first.
'cause my reason is probably alot shorter than yours.
I
Jessica (03:20):
can go on.
I know.
Alex (03:22):
Yeah, for sure.
No, but for me, my biggestreason, uh, that I wanted to
just be like, let's just leaveour life in Chicago and come
over here, was just basicallythe experience, right?
I mean, as you, I mean, I'm not.
Hope I don't sound like if I'm60 or 70 years old.
Right.
But like as you get older, youstart to realize that life is
(03:45):
precious, right?
So why not explore what's outthere outside of your homeland?
So that was my biggest reason,is just to go out and explore
and, you know, while we're stillyoung, we're still healthy.
Um mm-hmm.
See what's out there in Mexico.
Yeah.
That was my biggest reason.
Jessica (04:04):
Yeah, I, I can definitely see that.
And I think because we havelived in Chicago or all our
lives, I think we were ready fora fresh start, a new slate, and
I think that.
I think everything fell at theright place for us.
And if you haven't heard aboutour story, please uh, listen and
(04:27):
watch our episodes.
I will link them in the shownotes and, uh, that way you can
kind of know the, the backgroundbehind it and our reason,
reasons why we decided to move.
But I think that is a reallygood one and for me specifically
on top of that.
I think for me it's.
It was because of costs andtrying to figure out a better
(04:49):
way of living.
Not that I'm saying that we'reliving this luxurious life.
I think we're living prettymoderately, uh, but I think we
are able to feel a little bit offreedom when it comes to going
out, you know, hanging out, um,and, and really knowing that our
(05:11):
money is going towards.
Things where we don'tnecessarily get to complain.
Mm-hmm.
Or know that we will struggle,uh, from, so yeah.
And, and I know that there's alot of families right now,
specifically in the UnitedStates that are struggling.
I think there's just a lot ofcrap that is going on right now
(05:33):
in the US and I know that we'renot the only ones.
Actually many families that havebeen reaching out to me that
they have made the move or arethinking about making the move.
And that is so that, so thatthey can have a better quality
of life in a different country.
Uh, because, you know, Rita,it's, it's not easy to live in
(05:56):
the US and especially asLatinos.
It's, it's been verychallenging.
Alex (06:01):
Scary too.
Jessica (06:01):
It's very scary.
And, and I know that.
we come from a level ofprivilege because we have been
able to, uh, flee the US and goto the motherland.
But we can also return.
And I know that there's many,many families that are either
self deporting or who have beendetained and deported to go and
(06:24):
basically be forced to move backto their motherland, uh, their
own countries like Mexico.
And so our perspective is verydifferent because we did it out
of choice.
Yeah.
Out of, I don't know.
Out of privilege.
Out of privilege.
Yeah.
And that's what has been kind ofhard for at least me, just
trying to understand like.
(06:45):
You know, um, our place, ourspot here in Mexico, but also in
the US and how, you know, Idon't think we're affecting
much, but I just think about thefamilies
Alex (06:58):
Yeah.
That are forced.
I mean, getting back to thatsubject, we're not affecting
anybody in any way.
I mean, again, like if you thinkabout gentrification, I mean the
definition itself is like,wealthy people moving into a
poor area, right?
We're not wealthy.
And we're definitely not in apoor area.
So yeah.
I mean, there's a lot of peoplehere too that have welcomed us.
(07:19):
Who weren with open arms?
You, nobody, we haven't felt anyhostility.
I haven't, except from thegovernment that that's a
different topic for a differentshow.
You've been that.
Yeah.
Which we'll definitely talkabout that.
Yeah.
But other than that, I mean, no,I mean, I have, I, I felt
nothing but warmth here fromeverybody.
Jessica (07:37):
Yeah.
And I think people get it too.
Yeah.
Uh, you know, when I went to getmy, uh, which is like the voting
card here in Mexico, uh, when Iwent there to, to get mine.
The lady was like, oh no.
And I was like, well, andbasically telling her, you know,
(08:02):
we just decided to move toMexico because it, it sucks over
there.
And she was like, yeah, I getit.
I understand you're not thefirst person today.
And granted this was like at9:00 AM when I went.
Uh, to apply for my INE and shewas saying that there is
basically an influx of peoplethat are going to the INE
(08:24):
offices and trying to get theirvoter cards, uh, because they're
returning back, whether if theywere immigrants in the US or
they are children of immigrants.
But it's a pretty common thing.
And just hearing the storiesabout people that are.
Fleeing to Mexico, basically.
(08:44):
Uh, there's different reasons,but I think that we all share,
um, this kind of commonality andthey understand.
They're like, ah, I get it.
I get it.
Yeah.
I understand why you're cominghere.
Alex (08:59):
Yeah.
And just this year alone, 2025,there's been about, what was it,
like 1.6 million US citizensthat have.
Moved here to Mexico for variousreasons.
Right.
But that's just a quick littleeffect just to show you guys
that mm-hmm.
We're not the only ones that wewon't be the only ones that
relocate here.
Mm-hmm.
Jessica (09:16):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it makes it interestingbecause we're part of that 1.6
million.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm sure that everyone hasdifferent reasons behind it, but
I think.
Where does that put us though?
In, in a category?
We are dual citizens.
Mm-hmm.
Our parents we're immigrants,you know, from uh, Mexico to the
(09:40):
us.
And so it's not like we arewhite folks that are retired and
wanna have a life here so thatthe quality of life is better.
Mm-hmm.
And taking on, you know, um,Medicare and Social Security
because that's not us.
Mm-hmm.
And so where does that put us?
Alex (09:58):
Where category of our own.
I see.
Jessica (10:03):
Yeah.
And, and I'd be curious aboutthat specific number about
families who are.
Second generation or you know,they're mexicanos just like us,
that we're children ofimmigrants.
Where does is there such acategory, I guess?
And in last week's episode wetalked a lot about
(10:26):
gentrification.
And I asked out there onlineabout whether if you think we
are gentrifying or not.
And so some people were like,sí, and other people were like,
no, you're not.
And other people were like, wellactually you are repatriating,
if that's a word.
So we are part of like therepatriation, meaning that we're
essentially doing the reversemigration.
(10:48):
Um, and, and that is big and,and that is huge.
And we are part of that group, Ithink.
Um, but I, I think a lot of, uh,times when, when you think about
categories, you know, when youthink about buckets and putting
people into specific things,like I don't, I haven't heard
(11:11):
much yet about.
Reverse migration in terms oflike children of immigrants
going back mm-hmm.
To the family's motherland.
You definitely hear aboutexpats, which I hate that word.
You hear about, you know, theretirees again, but it's only
those white Americans that,they're the gentrifiers, I would
(11:31):
say, I'm
Alex (11:31):
sorry, I was such a dumb phrase, expats.
Right?
That's right.
Jessica (11:37):
I know he needs it.
Yeah.
I, I, I'm not a fan of iteither.
And essentially you're basicallyimmigrating to a different
country.
And as long as you do itcorrectly and you do it legally,
then know that there are ways incoming to Mexico.
Um, but if you're just going toMexico and overstay your visa
(11:58):
and everything, Hmm.
Well that sounds familiar,right?
And, and so, yeah.
and with the whole status rightnow with, with the U.S.,
there's.
I think it's just, I don't know.
I feel like the US is justpushing people away, like
whether if you were born thereor not, you know?
Yeah.
(12:18):
Like it's just making people togo outside of the US and live
outside of the us.
Alex (12:26):
Yeah.
It's just, we're living in veryinteresting times, to say the
least.
Right.
I mean.
I don't know.
I have so many, just to keepthis video short, right?
I mean, but I have so manythoughts, so many feelings about
what's going on right now in ourhomeland.
Right now.
I still consider Chicago ourhome, you know?
But it is just sad that you havea president that is basically
(12:52):
turning.
The whole country against eachother as opposed to moving it
forward.
Yep.
Sad.
Jessica (12:58):
It is very sad, and especially knowing that our
community is being attacked
Alex (13:03):
single handedly
Jessica (13:05):
because the way that you look, because of the type of
job that you have, because ofthe quote unquote accent that
you have, or lack of Englishproficiency.
Uh, I just hate that because theUS was built because of
immigrants.
Like immigrants are the backboneof the US and, and it puts us in
(13:32):
an interesting position becauseI don't know about you, but I've
definitely have gotten a lot ofjust praise and comments.
You know, nothing that peopleare saying out of, um, jealousy.
Ro a lot of people are saying,man, y'all moved at the right
time.
Y'all moved at the perfect timebecause I would not wanna be
(13:54):
here.
And, and while a lot of peoplethought that we left because of
this new administration, whichit's only been how many months?
And it feels like 40 years.
Alex (14:06):
It feels
Jessica (14:07):
like a long time ago.
And, and yeah, so like thetiming couldn't be perfect at
that, like when you think aboutit, but it also hurts.
It hurts me knowing that there'sso many people like me, people
in my community suffering rightnow in the US and I won't blame
you if you decide to move.
(14:29):
To Mexico or wherever yourfamily's from, and you decide to
go back to the motherland.
Um, or if you decide to come toMexico, even if you're not, uh,
Mexicano or Mexicana, like, Hey,you're welcome here.
Just make sure to do thingsright.
Alex (14:43):
Yeah.
Even the president, shame bomb,shame bomb.
She even said it too, thateverybody's welcome, just like
how you mentioned.
That as long as you do it right.
Right.
Complete 180 from what thepresident of the United States
is saying.
Mm-hmm.
Jessica (14:56):
Trying to kick everyone out.
Yeah.
So it, it's, yeah.
It, it's a full ethniccleansing, what they're trying
to do when clearly, let's thinkabout who were the first, first
people in that country.
Right.
But yeah, I don't wanna go on afull rant about that.
Um, but needless to say that thecurrent status of what's going
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on in the United States aboutdetaining people, deporting
people, just overalldiscrimination, like I can see
why people are deciding to fleethe us.
F and go towards a better life.
And you know, we definitely havebeen reflecting a lot about not
(15:41):
just that specific topic, butalso just like costs and how
different it is in, um,affording a life here versus the
us.
You know, we are now able tohave gym memberships when that
was basically a luxury in theus.
Like we weren't able to afford afreaking gym membership and I'm
(16:02):
talking about Planet Fitness.
Okay.
Not to bash Planet Fitness, butlike, I mean, we weren't, we had
to prioritize on other things.
This time now that we are inMexico, we've been able to send
our kids to school and
Alex (16:16):
private school and
Jessica (16:17):
it's private school, right?
But tuition is significantlyless than if you were to take
them to daycare becausetechnically Mateo.
It is still like a daycarechild, right?
He's two and a half years old.
He wouldn't qualify for freepreschool, and that's if your
state offers free preschool.
Diego luckily did when he wasthree, uh, in CPS in the Chicago
(16:39):
public public schools, but forpreschool alone and daycare here
in Mexico, it's significantlyless.
I mean, we're talking aboutthousand, a thousand
Alex (16:49):
dollars no more.
Jessica (16:51):
Well per kid.
Oh yeah.
So$2,000.
Alex (16:53):
Yeah.
Jessica (16:54):
Yeah.
We're saving ourselves$2,000 amonth on just daycare.
Mm-hmm.
So it just gives you perspectiveabout the cost of living.
And again, we're speaking out ofprivilege, right?
Because you were able to keepyour job, uh, and, you know,
we're working remotely.
I'm also working like I, I'm acontract worker and I'm able to
(17:15):
do that.
Um, and we have a rental orinvestment property in Chicago,
and so whatever we get from therent, you know, it applies
towards our cost of living.
So yes, we come from a very, um,
Alex (17:31):
privileged, privileged and
Jessica (17:33):
it's a very unique situation.
I would say Ro we decided tomove into a city, right, where
it's pretty comparable toChicago.
I know that there's so manypeople who.
Are fleeing to s you know,because they want a better
quality of life, but they wannahave less costs and so.
(17:54):
The good thing about Mexico isthat there's a lot of options.
You know, you can choose whetherif you wanna move into a big
city like Leon Guadalajara,Mexico City and all that, um, or
you can choose like moderate,you know, kind of pueblo.
So I'm thinking like.
Manuel Doblado, which is themunicipio where my family is
from.
It's a decent city.
(18:15):
It's growing.
It's booming.
Yeah.
It's growing.
Yeah.
Or it could be like our Rancho,you know where my family is from
in San Jose de Otates.
And that is small and that's, Imean, it's rural.
It's really rural.
It's Rancho.
Yeah.
At least where your dad's from.
I mean, it's a, you have astore.
Pueblo.
It's a Pueblo, yeah.
You have a plaza.
(18:35):
Yeah.
Ours doesn't.
So the good thing is thatthere's different options and.
If you are a child of immigrantsand you are curious about like
going back to where your familyis from, that is even better
because you could possibly havefree housing, you know?
Mm-hmm.
With your Aita house or youknow, your T's house or
(18:55):
something like that while you'retrying to situate yourself here.
Uh, and so I think that's areally cool thing that we can
leverage ourselves up.
And if you've ever thought aboutthe prospect of moving to
Mexico, there's always apossibility.
It's just a matter of thinkingabout, well, first of all, if
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I'm in a partner relationship,are we both in agreement?
Mm-hmm.
And then I don't know there'sanything,
Alex (19:23):
no, I mean, I guess it's just a matter of personal
preference, right?
Mm-hmm.
I mean, if you wanna move totoand you're comfortable with that
type of lifestyle, by all means,go ahead.
Like for us, I mean, I.
I'm sorry.
I mean, we, we used the wordprivilege a lot, right?
I mean, we, we came fromChicago.
I mean, we are used toaccustomed to a certain life,
right?
Mm-hmm.
I mean, we, we like to walk toplaces.
(19:46):
I mean, we like to exploredifferent places, see sites, and
it is not that you don't getthat in, in Ranchito, but it's,
it's more so like we, we wannasee like.
Old school buildings.
I see.
Like architect architecture asopposed to like ranch.
All you seen are beautifulmountains.
Right.
Like goats and your typicalranch stuff.
(20:07):
And that's something that we, Iknow I didn't want.
Yeah.
It's cool to, like, let's saylike if you're having a rough
week or whatever, like work inthe city, go out to the, to the
ranchito and then just chill outfor the weekend.
Mm-hmm.
That, that, you know, that'ssomething that we would do.
We do.
Yeah.
Jessica (20:23):
Yeah, we definitely do.
Like recently we will move, wemoved, we, we visited my, my
aita and we did not expect a, aparty on a Sunday, Sunday night,
night,
Alex (20:35):
Grupo, boo
Jessica (20:38):
tequila, lots of tequila, and the kids didn't
sleep well.
But that's, that's how it is.
I mean, it's, it's a differentculture and, and that's
something that if you arethinking about moving to Mexico,
that you should be open aboutlike.
Not bringing your Americanism toMexico, because
Alex (20:56):
it's a slower pace of life.
Jessica (20:58):
It is.
It's so different.
Alex (21:00):
It's slower pace of life, but not when you get inside of a
car.
No traffic.
That's a completely differentstory.
Jessica (21:06):
Yeah.
Yeah.
People just drive
Alex (21:09):
while it's over here.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Jessica (21:12):
Not as bad as like China, because I remember when I
went to Beijing, people werebad.
I mean, must
Alex (21:19):
travel over here.
Jessica (21:22):
No, just like for context, you know, because yeah,
like people kind of respect the,the road, the rules of the road,
but there's still a handful ofpeople when you're like, there,
que.
Alex (21:34):
That's debatable.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, and it is my experience,I don't know.
Jessica (21:38):
And then kind of comparing what it's like to live
in a city in Mexico versus archito like actually right now my
parents are.
Literally fleeing to Mexico aswell.
So they're also part of thiswave of like people who are
(22:01):
moving back to their owncountry.
And literally, and, and I hateit when people s you know, when
you hear comments unlikeFacebook and stuff like that,
like when people say, go back toyour country.
Yeah.
And now it's like, okay, I'llgo, I'll go to my country
because it's way better thanthis country.
And, and I don't think, myparents That wasn't the reason
(22:24):
why they made the decision tomove to Mexico, but they are in
this new kind of stage in theirlives when they want simplicity,
they want.
You know, space, affordability,affordability.
E.
They decided to leave everythingbehind And so when you compare
(22:46):
their way of living.
Uh, versus ours, you know, oursis very city-like.
Mm-hmm.
Like we have accessibility toeverything, all the resources at
our disposal.
But my family, like my parentsand my grandparents, they've
been living in Mexico for like20 plus years, um, after they
retired.
They have a different lifestyle.
(23:08):
They have a different way ofliving.
And just to give you like a costcomparison, like.
Right now we are living in arental like how I, we shared and
we spend about 20,000 pesos amonth.
Alex (23:22):
Roughly a thousand, 1000 1100 bucks.
US, yeah.
Jessica (23:26):
US dollars.
And it's a three bedroom, twoand a half bathroom house.
Um, it's very spacious.
Yeah.
As you can see, if you'rewatching on YouTube, like we
have a big patio in thebackground.
Uh, right now we are in thedining room, um, and there's
like a.
Kitchen.
So it's very spacious.
Um, pretty well for our family.
(23:49):
Perro, if you were to build ahouse in, in Rancho.
I mean, it would cost a lot ofmoney upfront.
Yeah.
You do have to pay the money.
You have to pay in cash to buildyour home, but guess what?
You don't have a mortgage afterthat.
Mm.
And especially if you were givenland like my dad was, that was
(24:11):
the only kind of inheritancethat he got.
He was given land, and so theyare building in the land that my
dad was given from mygrandparents.
Alex (24:20):
Yeah.
And I think your grandfathershared with me that he.
Paid around a little over ahundred thousand dollars to
build his house.
Mm.
And it's a huge house.
Jessica (24:28):
Yeah.
Where my grandparents live.
Yeah.
I mean, what is it?
How many bedrooms is it
Alex (24:31):
four bedrooms?
Jessica (24:32):
Four bedrooms and two baths.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Four bedrooms, two baths,
Alex (24:36):
balcony,
Jessica (24:37):
balcony, like a Yeah, it's so pretty.
It's beautiful.
Yeah.
Uh, and, and, yeah.
And this was back then, like in2005, I think.
Yeah, 2004.
So maybe the costs have risenbecause of like, you know,
materials.
I think my parents might bespending maybe like one 50 or
(24:58):
200 grand.
I don't know.
Alex (25:00):
Shit, that's still a lot of money to, it's a
Jessica (25:02):
lot of money upfront.
Upfront.
But if
Alex (25:06):
you're not tied into a mortgage for 30 years, right?
So, yeah, I mean, I guess it'sjust whatever, whatever is
convenient for the individual,right?
Mm-hmm.
I mean, it's like you get, whatis it like, like in estates,
right?
Like for, uh, the type ofbuilding, that type of housing
that they're building.
It's what?
400,000?
500,000?
(25:27):
With the, what, like a mortgageof$2,000 every month more
probably.
Or drop the$200,000 right upfront.
And then you live No, nopayments after that?
Jessica (25:37):
No, no.
You might have to pay like inSTOs, you know, obviously like
taxes.
Wait, how long is that?
Yeah.
How often is that?
I think it's like once a year.
I think my grandparents spend,like my mom told me, but it's a
ridiculous amount of money.
I mean, we're talking hundreds,like less.
I think my mom's said like 50,like a hundred.
I don't know.
It's a ridiculous amount of likehow minimal.
(25:59):
Minuscule, yeah.
Like the amount of taxes thatone pays for their lot.
Uh, and now granted, this is in,right, I don't know how much it
would be in a city like Leonwhere you would have to pay for
taxes and, and there are ways tofinance a home.
Like you don't have to put themoney up front, like how it is
to build a home.
(26:20):
Um.
And yeah, and I'm pretty surethat they, my parents could
possibly finance, but that'ssomething that they don't wanna
do.
Uh, but just to give you thatperspective, that there are
different options.
There's always options.
There's so many options to moveto Mexico and figure out where
(26:40):
you'd wanna live.
Like right now, we are takingthis year in, staying in this
rental.
But we are interested in buyingproperty and seeing where we go
from there.
Alex (26:52):
And if we find something good in our budget.
I'm breaking this lease.
I'm sorry, but I'm breaking.
He's actively
Jessica (26:59):
looking.
Alex (27:00):
No, I mean, it's, it, it is what it is, right?
I mean, you can't, we can'tcomplain.
We got a good house.
I mean, it's a nice house, but Imean, I don't know.
Jessica (27:09):
Yeah.
He's just, uh, if you haven'theard previous episodes, you
know, there's reasons why he'shaving a hard time on.
Yeah.
Alex (27:16):
It's just, I don't know.
For the amount of money thatwe're paying, I think we're,
should get something a littlebit more modern, but I guess it
is what it's,
Jessica (27:23):
yeah.
Yeah.
So if you are curious aboutmoving to Mexico or if you've
already moved to Mexico withyour family, let us know.
You can always reach me atpodcast@vivalamami.com.
Or you can send me a DM at@vivalamami on Instagram and we
can just chat about yourexperience and if you are a
(27:45):
descendant of Mexico.
Whether if it's your parents orone of your parents who were
born in Mexico and you haven'tyet earned your dual
citizenship, well now is yourtime to sign up for my
masterclass.
I am offering a free masterclassthat's coming up on Thursday,
November 13th at 7:00 PM CentralTime, and it'll be live where I
(28:09):
will be there and I will be.
Kind of giving you tips and, aroadmap of what it's like in
getting your dual citizenship inMexico.
This is specifically in Mexico.
The holidays are coming up, soyou're most likely visiting your
familia in Mexico and might aswell just do your dual
citizenship here and it is veryeasy, trust me.
(28:30):
And so if you are interested.
I will be sharing the link toregister in the show notes as
well as in the description ofthis YouTube, video.
And yeah, I hope you can makeit.
Alex (28:41):
And one more thing I just want to add, um, one thing you
want to consider whilerelocating is the cost, right?
Mm-hmm.
And, uh, if you guys areinterested.
We can possibly maybe just giveyou guys like a rough estimate
as to how much we spent torelocate a family of four all
the way from Chicago over here.
Let Jessica know.
Jessica (29:01):
Yeah.
We're more than
Alex (29:01):
happy to her share that.
Jessica (29:02):
Yeah, thanks for offering that.
We definitely have likespreadsheets, we have cost
comparisons.
There's also a tool, uh, thatI've shared in previous episodes
and I can link it in the shownotes as well.
But yeah, I think what'simportant is to build community.
With other people that, thathave done this.
You know, we, we have been intouch with so many people that
(29:25):
have made the move to Mexico andthey've given us so many great
tips, so many great suggestionsand recommendations, and I think
our way of.
Giving that back is to sharingour wisdom, our experience,
because I don't like togatekeep, I don't like to keep
things on the down low, youknow, on the hush hush because
(29:46):
that's not our community, that'snot our as Latinos.
And so we like, you know, tochisme, we like to share
overshare, and that's why we'rehere.
So if you have any furtherquestions or any, uh,
suggestions on topics, uh, aspart of the Living in Mexico
series, please feel free toreach out.
(30:07):
I'm always open to receivingthat feedback.
And if you still wanna have Alexon the show, let me know because
I know that he's very popular.
Alex (30:16):
Oh, she's already kicking me out.
No,
Jessica (30:17):
I'm not, but.
All right, AMI.
Well, thank you so much forlistening in the next episode.
Right.
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