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March 24, 2025 30 mins
Hostess Lisa Winton and Swami Jayananda delve into the Knowing of Truth—recognizing the One Life that transcends the illusion of many lives. Tune in as they explore noumena, the essence of how things truly are, and phenomena, how things appear, within the framework of Spirit, thought, and matter. In this episode, they illuminate the upper waters of Spirit, the firmament, and the lower waters of sense. Welcome to the Voice of Yoga, where consciousness takes center stage! Embark on the Kriya Yoga Spiritual Advance to ignite the Light within your soul and thrive in the harmony of Oneness.
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(00:00):
Voice of Yoga.
Welcome to the Institute for Personal
Development, Kriya Yoga Ashram, where
total consciousness is the new frontier.
Kriya Yoga is union of the
individual with the Divine.

(00:22):
Join us as we explore the practices to
initiate this process.
Good morning, welcome to the Voice of
Yoga. Let's talk consciousness. I am your
hostess, Lisa Winton, and with me is Kenny
Toy, also known as Swami Jayananda,
founder of the Institute for Personal
Development, located here in Hampton, New

(00:43):
Hampshire. Good morning, Swami. Thank you
for being here today. How are you?
Good morning. I'm doing pretty good
today. How about you?
I'm doing great today, too. Thanks for
asking. And we'd like to thank you all
for tuning in. Today on the Voice of
Yoga, we will talk about the Knowing of
Truth, which is the One Life to liberate

(01:03):
the belief in many lives. Listen as we
discuss noumena, how things are, and
phenomena, how things appear in the
context of the nature of Spirit, the
nature of thinking, and the nature of
matter. In this episode, we will explain
the upper waters of Spirit, the
firmament, and the lower waters of sense.

(01:24):
Welcome to the Voice of Yoga. We are
talking consciousness. Join the Kriya
Yoga Spiritual Advance to get the light
in your soul and flourish in Oneness.
Swami, the title of today's shows is How
Oneness Overcomes Loneliness.
What can you tell us about this title?
Yeah, I was inspired to do this by the

(01:47):
song by Three Dog Night. One is the
loneliest number you will ever do. And
the song rings loud and clear in my
memory. And then in retrospect, when I
think of what the Bible tells us, Know
the Truth and it makes you free. What
does it mean? What is the Truth? What is

(02:10):
freedom? And I question, have we strayed
so far from the Truth, we
don't even know what freedom means?
My observations show we don't understand
what scripture is saying, and as the
Bible says, you will die in your sins.

(02:32):
We seem to be okay with that and continue
to accept the belief in the many and the
folly of trying to figure out how the
unreal became Real. In this show we'll
explain a tried and true system for
experiencing the promises found in the

(02:53):
Bible for Eternal Life and happiness. In
order to do this, we must be strong
enough to walk a solitary path and
sensitive enough to hear the call. So now
we'll start with this contradiction. How
does Oneness overcome loneliness?

(03:15):
The first thing we have to understand is
loneliness is a concept. In fact, the
belief in the many is how it originates.
We believe there is me and everyone else
out here. Now that's a belief, it's a
hypnotic state. The fear aspect of it,

(03:40):
the animal magnetism that drives the
whole machine, is a defense mechanism for
the false sense of self, primarily
because this mortal sense of existence is
not the Truth. The Truth is Eternal Life.

(04:01):
Always was, always will be,
changeless, perfect whole.
That's the noumena. The phenomena is this
temporary sense of life, anything that
does not have Divine qualities. Like John
told us in the Bible, all things were

(04:22):
made by Him, and what was not made by Him
was not made. Once you start to build
this mental landscape that will support
the Divine Principle, then you have
power. You can approach some of these
challenges that some of us are really

(04:43):
struggling with, this idea of being
alone. And yet
Oneness is the only reality.
So a lot of people combat this idea of
loneliness with the human concept that
we're never alone, and yet the opposite

(05:05):
is the Truth. We are always alone, but
it's not lonely because it's not mortal.
It is Spiritual, and
Spirit is whole, Perfect.
Yes, Swami, I'm looking at the definition
of loneliness now, and it says sadness

(05:27):
because one has no friends or company.
So it seems like there's an emotion
that's tied to this sense of loneliness.
Right, there's always that association
between feelings and thoughts.
Once we start to master the mind-body

(05:47):
complex, we understand how it's all
working. We're no longer controlled by
the testimony of the senses. We no longer
believe in the false sense of existence,
and we are resting in the knowledge. I
like what Mary Baker Eddy said, "For

(06:10):
Jesus to walk water was Science.
Until poor humanity walks water, for them
to step out onto the Atlantic isn't
wisdom or Science. Until you really have
Divine Truth in consciousness,
you're walking defenseless among these

(06:30):
non-existent powers that seem to do harm.
But once you get beyond the fears that
surround all of this,
and you have a willingness to challenge
what you're doing, and you go about it
like we said with a tried-and-true
Scientific system, like Kriya Yoga,

(06:52):
where you learn how to give the body what
it really needs to produce a feeling that
it's okay, and you're working with
thought and belief, and you're working
with changing your value system so it's
in accordance with universal order. Say,

(07:13):
for example, most of us are responding as
if we're in danger when we're not in a
real life-threatening situation because
we're hypnotized, because we believe, "I
need a text. I need a cigarette. I need a
drink. I need a cup of coffee."

(07:34):
And we respond as if we're in danger, but
it's not "real." It's imagined. And so
once we get a handle on that by working
with simple things like the association
between your rate of breath
equals your rate of thought,

(07:55):
and you can start to change how we think.
We can start to become more dependent
upon things that are really needs or seem
to be more meaningful, and this would be
more of a Scientific approach.
Yeah Swami, I was thinking about that

(08:17):
word "loneliness" earlier today, and
what's very interesting about it, you
take out three letters and
you have the word "oneness."
What I find interesting about that is
there are three modes of mortal thought
we have to come out of before we can Know
the Truth. And so here again, we have the

(08:41):
coincidence between the human and the
Divine, how the small and the simple
explains the large and complex.
These stages in development are
important, and when
you initiate your process
and you have the leadership of a tried

(09:01):
and true metaphysical or mystical system,
you're not trying to do this left to your
own devices any longer. You're working
with a Principle and a rule. Once you
have conscious awareness of how this can
be employed, then it becomes a new mode

(09:23):
of operation where we're no longer
trying, striving, struggling, seeking,
planning, or asking.
Instead, we are resting in the knowledge.
The Divine Principle is
running a Perfect universe.
Swami, where do you feel
that we should get started?

(09:47):
Well, like I said, we start with the
Principle. Life is Perfect,
which means whole, complete,
then spins off into Spiritual.
Spirit is Self-Existent Life everywhere
always, and this is the only reality.

(10:09):
There is only One Life, One Spirit, One
Truth, One Love, One
Mind, One Soul. This is God,
absolute goodness.
We either understand this or we think we
are something else. I understand this by

(10:30):
using the visual painted in Genesis 1
with the upper waters being Spirit, the
firmament being mortal mind, and the
lower waters being corporeal sense or
matter. Levels of consciousness, and then

(10:52):
I work with the statement,
"Consciousness is experience."
This allows me to use the testimony of
the corporeal senses as an indicator so I
know what I am conscious
of. Am I sowing to the flesh?
Am I drawing from fear and limitation? Or

(11:15):
do I draw from the invisible, intangible
Divine omnipresence,
drawing from Truth and wholeness?
It is what is appearing in my senses that
will give me the indicator of what I am
conscious of. Without the sense

(11:37):
testimony, there is really no way of
knowing what you are conscious of.
Swami the summary talked about discussing
the Noumena and Phenomena. What
can you tell us about that?
Yeah, Noumena, how things are and
Phenomena, how they appear. This is an

(11:59):
important foundation or way of looking at
life today. It changes your value system.
The difference between Spirit and
duality, which then opens up into
different appearances, the mental
material world of energy, is the

(12:20):
appearance and it is dualistic. Duality
means nothing is whole.
Everything is in half.
In order for something to appear at the
corporeal sense level, it must be in
half, which produces the contrast for

(12:41):
perception of the mortal mind.
It may take some processing, but it is
straightforward. The mental material
world of energy isn't real.
It's a belief in two powers.
Opposite forces producing the ongoing
struggle between good and evil.

(13:04):
Keep in mind duality is a belief and
Spirit is Self-Existent power. To
activate the power of One, we must give
up the belief in the many and know
ourselves Spiritually, which is One.

(13:25):
As Jesus said, "I and the Father are
one." In Oneness there isn't two. And as
long as there is two, you are out of the
Father's house, out of Divine
consciousness, and you're under karmic
law, which is again

(13:45):
the belief in two powers. Swami
this is interesting about this whole
concept of good and evil; in this sense of
duality. Since this concept has been
ingrained in us since we were probably
children, I think about all the fables,
the witch and the apples with Snow White.
There's all kinds of things like that
that make us believe in this concept of

(14:08):
the good and evil. So how do we overcome
these years of this
type of mental training?
Well, like we said, there are three modes
of mortal thought we have to come out of.
And so you start with self-control,
self-mastery. Your first level of mortal

(14:28):
thought is instinct, appetite,
preservation and survival.
That's why this idea of loneliness, fear
of being One, fear is the defense
mechanism for the false sense of self,
which is in half and is
in search of wholeness.

(14:51):
So it does seem to get complicated. Then
of course your next mode of human thought
we have to master is personal sense,
human will, self-satisfaction.
And then the final thing is the
collective consciousness. It's all the

(15:12):
concepts, theories, beliefs, and like you
said, this ongoing struggle between good
and evil. Now what you notice about that
is it doesn't even address the Principle,
the first commandment. I am the Lord God.

(15:33):
Don't put any false gods before me. And
so once you start to figure out this
solution to life is this idea of Oneness.
And to simplify how Oneness overcomes
loneliness, we simply give up the belief
in the false sense of being, a finite

(15:57):
mortal self and abide in the Truth of One
Perfect Divine Life. As
Mary Baker Eddy suggests,
in healing start by allaying the fear.
And what she means by this is give up the
belief in a mortal sense of life. The

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belief in death is the
downfall of the human experience.
And as long as we cling to the false
sense of life, we remain blind to the
Truth. The kingdom of heaven is at hand,
but we must be conscious
of it to experience it.

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(Music)

(17:49):
Welcome back. For those of you just
joining us, you're listening to The Voice
of Yoga, and we are talking
consciousness. Swami so how does a sense
of Oneness overcome loneliness?
Yes, Spiritual Oneness isn't aloneness.
It's Allness,
completion, fulfillment, wholeness.

(18:12):
Omnipresence is everywhere always.
Nothing is missing or gained.
Absolute Truth rests in Perfect peace. To
know yourself Spiritually, we abide in
the fruits of the Spirit and nothing
else. The concept of loneliness is all

(18:37):
part of the false sense of existence.
It's driven by this belief in the many.
We think we're separate from the Divine
Principle. We don't have any way of
knowing this Truth, primarily because the
mind that we use to get us through this

(18:59):
lifetime is incapable of knowing the
Truth. And until we educate ourselves in
how to develop the faculty that enables
us to perceive the Truth, we continue to
react to the testimony of the five
senses. But what we don't understand is

(19:22):
we are seeing what isn't there. We are
seeing our thought about what's here.
It's the same dynamics of a dream. The
mental material world of energy is just a
thought form about what's here, what's
real, noumena. Spirit is the only

(19:46):
reality. But until we come out of this
false sense of existence and we know
ourselves in the way that we are known,
we continue to believe we're separate. We
continue to believe we're vulnerable,
we're gonna die, and we react to it. But

(20:08):
it's all part of the plan. I like to
think about the idea the Hindus
introduced. This Supreme Being, this
concept of God being One, becomes all of
creation, becomes you, me, all the
events, circumstances, situations for its

(20:32):
own amusement. So once we have a better
value system, a better understanding of
how this is working, a better visual,
then we approach our lives without the
sense of urgency. It's like watching
cosmic TV. It's not as important. When

(20:55):
you open your sense of self beyond what
Joe Goldsmith calls the
parenthesis in eternity,
"always was, always will be" is what you
start to identify yourself with. But you
can't do that and still hang on to this

(21:16):
finite sense of existence.
Yeah, Swami, I think that's a challenge
for most of us. Once we come to this
realization of the concept of Oneness and
not loneliness, we can think it, but
that's just not going far enough.
Right, like I said, we don't have the
faculty that enables us to perceive the

(21:38):
Truth. And then we also don't have the
methodology, the idea of the Mind of
Christ or the Christ message, the idea,
"Seek first the kingdom of
heaven." Or as C.S. Lewis said,
"Aim for heaven, earth gets thrown in.

(22:00):
Aim for earth, you get neither." So we
start with this false sense of existence
and we cling to it. We don't go beyond
limited personal sense of self. And until
you have a willingness
to let go of the belief,

(22:21):
there is a Divine creation. There is a
living Spirit of Truth functioning
everywhere. Then we continue to do the
same thing expecting a different return.
Swami, how would we know if we're just
thinking about oneness or we are

(22:43):
conscious of Oneness?
Yeah, thinking about definitely is not
the same as being conscious of. We think
with the five corporeal senses by forming
thoughts and opinions based on
information coming through the mortal
mind. This is the thought loop we call

(23:05):
life, but it isn't
life at all. It's a trap.
As Paul tells us, life is hid with Christ
in God. To know this Truth, we need the
faculty which perceives the Divine
creation, which is Spirit or Divine Mind.

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Divine Mind works in the absolute and
mortal mind works in duality. Though
duality is an appearance and seems to
have its own laws, it is never real. As
light dispels darkness, Truth dispels
error. Divine Law overcomes karmic law or

(23:48):
material law. In the light of Divine
Truth, there is no false belief in a
temporary sense of existence.
I like what it says in the Bible, "Fear
not, it is I." The Divine Self,
everywhere always, Perfect, whole,
complete, changeless; rest in the

(24:10):
knowledge of the Divine Self and it will
take care of what seems to
be a mortal sense of self.
So Swami, if somebody has experienced
some type of a discord, well, let's just
use loneliness, how would they go about
to overcome this sense of loneliness to

(24:30):
experience this change
that you're talking about?
Well, on a simplistic level, start
thinking right. And on a fundamental,
basic level, know the difference between
what seems to be a need and what seems to
be a want. Being able to give your body
what it thinks it needs produces the

(24:53):
calmness. The physical body lives in fear
because it's unreal. It relies on belief
for its existence. But once you calm the
physical body, you can loosen the mind
from being monopolized by that fear. Like

(25:13):
we were saying, the upper waters of
Spirit, the firmament, and the lower
waters of sense, portrayed in Genesis, if
you understand, the firmament is mind.
The mind is a very interesting thing
because initially on one side it's mortal
mind and on the other side it's Divine

(25:35):
Mind. So there's a progression that
happens on the mental plane in the astral
body. The stairway to heaven is in the
astral plane. It's where we graduate from
thinking to Knowing. And you understand
the mind can be on earth. It can be in

(25:59):
the physical body. Right now you could
put your mind in your right foot and know
exactly what's going on. Pain,
discomfort, instability, lack,
limitation, or nothing. But whatever it
is, your mind, your awareness is in the
right foot. You can also, right now, put

(26:19):
your mind in your refrigerator and
rummage through the refrigerator. While
you're rummaging through the
refrigerator, you have no idea what's
going on in the right foot. The other
aspect of the mind is we can turn the
mind to the upper waters of Spirit, the
invisible, intangible Divine

(26:41):
Omnipresence. And so by giving the body
what it thinks it needs, it allows us to
learn how to move the mind. And it's the
mortal mind, I understand that. It's not
Spirit. Spirit is the only reality, but

(27:01):
the firmament, the go-between, is what we
develop. We develop ourselves physically,
mentally, conceptually, and then we
graduate from thinking with five
corporeal senses to Knowing
with seven Spiritual senses.

(27:22):
But if you don't understand how this is
working and you are relying on belief,
then you don't graduate from belief to
faith to understanding. But if you
believe in the Divine creation, in the
Truth, belief in Truth graduates to

(27:43):
faith, and faith in Truth graduates to
understanding. So initially, we start
with belief, but then eventually we are
demonstrating Divine Law with Scientific
certainty because we have developed the
faculty that enables us to be conscious

(28:06):
of the Divine Truth. It's unfortunate,
but today humanity approaches this
backwards. We can't figure out why it
isn't working. We take care of what isn't
there in hopes of getting what is there.
By believing in the mental material

(28:26):
illusion, we see what isn't here and are
blind to what is here. For only God is.
What we did with currency, when we took
away gold backing, is
similar to what we did with Truth.
We now place value on personal truth

(28:49):
without the backing of Divine Truth, and
we have no dominion, no power, but insist
on its value. Without
Absolute Truth, there's no Life.
We are in the appearance trying to make
it real, the dummy trying to

(29:11):
live without the ventriloquist.
Swami, thank you again for your insights
on today's topic, "How
Oneness Overcomes Loneliness."
Listeners, be sure to visit the website
www.iptransform.com. On any of those
pages as you scroll down, you'll see
several buttons there that you could

(29:32):
press that would further your
understandings. Swami, any
final thoughts about today's show?
Well, I would like to encourage people to
join the Kriya Yoga Spiritual Advance to
get the light in your soul and flourish
in Oneness. Namaste.
Thank you for listening to the program,
"The Voice of Yoga." This is Lisa Winton

(29:53):
along with Swami Jayananda signing off.
Have a wonderful Kriya
Yoga realization. Namaste.
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