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Welcome to the Institute for Personal
Development, Kriya Yoga Ashram, where
Total Consciousness is the new frontier.
Kriya Yoga is union of the
individual with the Divine.
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Join us as we explore the practices to
initiate this process.
Good morning, welcome to The Voice of
Yoga, Let's Talk Consciousness. I am your
host, it's Lisa Winton, and with me is
Kenny Toy, also known as Swami Jayananda,
founder of the Institute for Personal
Development, located here in Hampton, New
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Hampshire. Good morning, Swami. Thank you
for being here today. How are you?
Good morning. I'm doing pretty good
today. How about you?
I'm doing great today too. Thanks for
asking. And we'd like to thank you all
for tuning in. Today on The Voice of
Yoga, we will talk about the process in
development where the person of earth
becomes the child of the Divine, the
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journey from sense to Soul. Listen as we
explore the generic stages in development
and the similarities found in different
approaches to Self-Realization. In this
episode, we will cross-reference the work
of Frederick Rawson with Orthodox
Christianity, Buddhism, and Kriya Yoga.
Welcome to The Voice of Yoga, We Are
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Talking Consciousness. Join the Kriya
Yoga Spiritual Advance to get the light
in your soul and be Divine. Swami, the
topic of today's episode is Various Steps
to Becoming Whole. Give us your thoughts
on your inspiration for this title.
Yeah, today's show was inspired by the
work of Frederick Rawson, a paper he did
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Watch and Pray. Now we don't follow
anyone directly or exclusively. For us,
the purpose of this Incarnation is to
glorify the Creator, to be that place
where Divine Truth is revealed.
There are many paths to this summit, the
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summit of Spiritual identity, and it
doesn't concern us which path we take.
What matters is we summit. We are able to
demonstrate Divine Law with Scientific
certainty. Looking at, say for example,
the five steps Frederick Rawson suggests,
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you can also compare it to the five
sacraments found in
the Catholic religion,
baptism, holy communion, confirmation,
matrimony, and holy orders. They all fit
well. Buddhism is a bit more detailed
with the Four Noble Truths, the Eightfold
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Path, the Twelve Interdependent Origins.
Kriya Yoga has eight essential stages.
There seem to be choices, but the bottom
line is the experience of Oneness
requires action, knowledge, and devotion.
There isn't any easy way to be free.
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Swami, you had said the purpose of
Incarnation is to glorify the Creator.
What do you think that would
look like if we were doing that?
Well, I always think about what Jesus
said, "I am the vine
and you are the branches."
And the idea here is for us as the
branches is to bear the fruit. Bearing
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the fruit means revealing the Divine
Creation. The Divine Creation is
everywhere always. God is running a
Perfect universe. It is our
responsibility to become conscious of
this Divine Creation, which means we have
to come out of the belief in this
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secondary sense of life,
this false sense of existence,
and then be that place where the Divine
Mind can express Itself through us and
reveal the work that It
is doing continuously.
And so this is what we would consider to
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be glorifying the Creator. And especially
now we understand Spirit testifies with
deeds, not words. Spirit is a
demonstrable Principle. And so we get
away from this belief level of
worshipping a far-off Creator, and we
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start to understand the dynamics of this
Oneness with the Divine Principle.
Swami you said the Creator is not far
off, but we've been studying and learning
and working with the fact that the
Creator is within us, can
you talk more about that?
Yeah, it's very important to make your
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concept of God more organic, more alive.
You start with a belief in the Divine
creation or a Creator, but then when you
put healing on the table, which is one of
the reasons why we're going over
Frederick Rawson's five steps for
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healing, learning how to demonstrate the
omnipresence of this Divine Principle.
Taking healing off the table then enables
us to believe in anything because there's
no way of proving what it is that you
believe. And then if you believe you will
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get your reward in the end, then you
remain in that hypnotic state, driven by
this belief in two powers. So here we're
looking to become whole. We're no longer
accepting this temporary sense of life,
and we want to know the Truth.
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Swami one more thought about the Divine
Creator. I know for myself anyway, I have
gone from believing there is God watching
over me as opposed to
actually God within me.
Yeah, making this a more Scientific
approach. God is power, not a power I can
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use to improve this human experience. God
is the Life of everything appearing on
this planet. Now you have a Principle,
the Principle of One Life, One Being.
Then you start to become conscious of
this Divine Omnipresence, and then you
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start to see consciousness is experience.
This requires steps, this idea of being
born again of Spirit. If we continue to
accept this mortal sense of life, and we
continue to draw from duality, the
particles and waves of the mental
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material world of energy, then we stay in
this cycle of death and rebirth under the
law of karma, like attracts like. But if
we refine the mind-body complex and we
rebirth the body in the invisible,
intangible, Spiritual Omnipresence, then
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we become something different. It's
physics, like attracts like. Once you
have changed yourself chemically,
psychologically, physiologically, then
you are able to call into expression the
beauty of Holiness and
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the Perfection of Being.
Spiritual Law is under the power of One
power, which is Absolute Goodness.
There's no opposition in
Spirit, and it's Whole.
Swami let's get started with these five
steps from Frederick Rawson, and I'll
read step number one. "Turn in thought to
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God and heaven." This is absolutely
essential. It does not matter much what
your concept is, provided it is your best
idea of the glorious world called heaven.
What are your thoughts?
Yeah, this is exactly what Mary Baker
Eddy meant by educating thought up to
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Spiritual apprehension. We do start with
the mortal mind, the mind that can't
bring forth the Divine image. It's all we
really have at this point. You educate
your thought up to Spiritual
apprehension. You build a mental
landscape that will support the Divine
Idea. This is what they call the letter
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of Truth, provided you know God aright.
This is important because even the
orthodox religious concept of God that
rewards and punishes misses the mark
because you're working with the law of
karma instead of the
Divine Law of Absolute Goodness.
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And step two, I'll read it. "Deny the
existence in heaven of the wrong thing,
thought of, seen, or felt, when, for
instance, you see an angry man or feel
angry, realize after first thinking of
heaven that there is no such thing as
anger in that spiritual kingdom, the
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kingdom of harmony, the one reality. This
is called the denial of angel Michael,
which as the Bible shows us destroys
Satan, alias, the imaginary mist of
matter which appears to hide heaven from
us, and Satan's angels, namely, the evil
thoughts which tempt us to believe in a
power other than that of God."
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End of the quote.
To be successful with this step, we must
know the difference between thinking,
which is what we do in duality, and
Knowing which is what is done in the
Absolute, the difference
between thought and idea.
We have Divine Mind.
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It only knows Divine Truth.
This means any persons, places, things
that appear in our sense testimony have
got to be understood as not created by
the Divine Principle. So we begin to
separate the wheat from the tares,
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not focusing on the good and the bad
because we know duality is a mix of both.
We want to go between the unreal and the
Real, so that we can start to establish an
understanding of the
nature of the Divine Principle.
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Perfect, Whole, complete, everywhere,
always. This can also be considered the
prayer of argument in Christian Science.
This idea of denial of anything that does
not have Divine qualities.
Now we know all the good, beautiful, and
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true attributes belong to the Divine, but
we also know besides the wolf, things
that are visibly malicious and dangerous,
there is the wolf in sheep's clothing. We
also have to caution ourselves about. Its
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finite good that we believe is under the
jurisdiction of Divine Law. And so it
tempts us. The prayer of argument is
you're separating the wheat from the
tares, but you're not accepting the
testimony of the
corporeal senses at any point.
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Think differently.
Stop thinking with the five corporeal
senses and then activate Spiritual sense.
It is only the activity of the Soul that
is able to bring forth the wholeness, the
pureness of the Divine Idea.
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I'm going to read step three.
Realize the existence of the opposite.
For instance, in the case of anger, while
still thinking of heaven, realize that in
that perfect world, the world of reality,
all is peace and love. Think of God as
love and the spiritual man as absolutely
loving. Dwell on this realization and get
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it as clear as you can. This is called
the affirmation or angel Gabriel. If
there is then time, it is advisable to
group one's thoughts under two more
headings. End of the quote.
Yeah, as you can see, he's got three
steps here. Also a recommendation for
some additional work. I also understand
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Frederick Rawson was a Christian
Scientist. They have a different value
system than orthodox religious
information. Like I say, they know the
difference between thinking and Knowing.
They understand what is
meant by the Mind of Christ.
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So when you get to this point of the
existence of the opposition, you
understand the difference between duality
and Spirit because you'll find that you
cannot demonstrate the Omnipresence of
the Divine Principle with the mortal
mind. If we don't understand repent,
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think differently. We will try and do
this with the mind that can't bring forth
the Divine image, literally powerless.
It is not a practitioner thinking about a
circumstance or a situation. It is Divine
Mind handling the error. It is Truth
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revealing the Divine Creation.
It's a very different dynamic when you
are doing this from the perspective of
Spiritual identity, when your thought has
shifted from a mental-material basis to a
Spiritual basis, when you know the
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difference between thoughts and Ideas,
and you have the
faculty to interpret the Idea.
You are then getting your instruction
from within directly from the Creator. In
fact, the Creator is doing Its thinking
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through you, which is very different than
when we are thinking from
this personal sense of self.
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Welcome back. For those of you just
joining us, you're listening to The Voice
of Yoga and we are Talking Consciousness.
So Swami, let's continue on with these
five steps from Frederick Rawson and I'm
going to read step four. "Realize why
this is so, namely because God is the
principle of good, rules and governs all,
as there is nothing but God and his
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manifestation in the spiritual kingdom,
the world of reality
called heaven." Your thoughts.
An interesting word he uses there is
"realize" why this is so. He
doesn't say "think this is so."
Realize is a word they use in scripture
that would correspond with "Know" this to
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be true. Knowing, realizing, it's a very
different mode of thinking. We're not
thinking with the mortal mind at this
level. We are knowing
with seven Spiritual senses.
And if we don't have all seven Spiritual
senses, then we are building this
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stairway to heaven. But we are thinking
differently. We are at least recognizing
there's a difference between duality and
this unified state. Things that are
visible and tangible, things that are
invisible and tangible. So you've got
particles and waves. But then we also
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have to take into account the invisible,
intangible Divine Omnipresence because
that becomes your Principle. Without the
Principle, there's really no way of
demonstrating the rule. And what you'll
learn in Christian
Science, the reverse is true.
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Without the rule, there's no way of
demonstrating the Principle.
The ability to demonstrate and reveal the
Divine Creation. We're not fixing an
external world. What we learn
is there is no external world.
Only the invisible,
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intangible Divine Omnipresence.
I'm going to read step five. Try to form
as clear an idea as you can of God and
his manifestation heaven, thinking of the
Infinite Love, Life, wisdom, joy, and
beauty in that perfect world.
Reversing our thoughts in this way all
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day long is prayer without ceasing and is
leading us continually to abide in the
secret place of the Most High. It also
teaches us clearly and perpetually to
recognize that all sin, disease, worry,
limitations, and so forth, being, to put
it briefly, wrong thinking, are
non-realities, such as have no permanence
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about them. It enables us also to realize
the truth, namely that God and his
manifestation are spiritual and perfect,
all in all, omnipresent. Do not take this
as a hard and fast rule for working. Let
God teach you the way to work, not man."
End of the quote. Swami,
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what are your thoughts?
Yeah to grasp what it is that he's talking
about here, we must
understand the nature of prayer.
Prayer is not asking God for favors.
Prayer is communion with the Divine.
In order for us to commune with the
Divine, we must know ourselves in the way
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we are created, which is Spirit, knowing
yourself to be Whole. Spirit is
everywhere, always. There is no time,
space, concept, belief, form, matter.
There's no thinking in Spirit. There's no
movement, personal sense, personal will.
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Spirit is all, Omnipresent.
Once you begin to understand yourself as
the reflection of this Eternal Life,
everywhere always, then you have opened
the channels of communication.
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Then you can let Divine Mind
express Itself through you.
Swami, so in order for us to pray without
ceasing all day long, he's suggesting
that we reverse our
thoughts. What does that mean?
Yeah, for me, what he means by reverse
your thoughts is the same thing as
repent, think differently.
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It's actually not reversing your thought,
but what we do is we stop thinking with
the five corporeal senses and by making
the mind an avenue of awareness for the
invisible, intangible Divine
Omnipresence, which does not report in
the five corporeal sense mind,
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then appears as taking no thought, which
is what Jesus recommends
in the Sermon on the Mount.
Taking no thought here means that you are
not thinking and by not thinking, you are
not interfering with the stream of the
Divine Idea, which is in continuous flow
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from the creative Principle.
The minute we start to think, we fall
back into duality. We are now under
karmic law. It's all about a false sense
of existence, a belief in something other
than the Divine creation. Like we had
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said in the beginning, we start with
belief. You start with your highest
understanding of right with the mortal
mind, but then we also have to learn how
to control how we think so that we can
stop thinking and then let Divine Mind
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take over the scientific
government of the body.
Swami, so let's take these five steps and
then could you maybe give us a summary of
what we're learning?
Though it may not be clear how many steps
it takes to be Whole, it is clear steps
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must be taken. I like what Gilbert
Carpenter wrote in Mary Baker Eddy, Her
Spiritual Footsteps, chapter 7, and I'll
read it. The Master said, "I have
overcome the world."
Such a statement means little to the
uninspired thought because Jesus referred
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to the mental victory, which none can
comprehend but those spiritually
enlightened, yet from the standpoint of
Divine Mind, the mental victory is the
only one that has any real value, since
in reality what man has to overcome is
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neither a wolf nor a wolf in sheep's
clothing, but the illusion which causes
him to believe either that he has some
mighty evil power to destroy or else
because of apparent harmony that God is
in control, hence he has nothing to do."
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end of quote. Yeah, it's very important
to understand we need to initiate this
process. If we live instinctually by
thinking, breathing, eating, sleeping,
fornicating, we will survive, but we will
not grow. In order for us to grow
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Spiritually, some tampering has to
happen. There is a departure from
instinct, appetite, preservation, and
survival. We must put off the old man,
and these are laid out in different
stories in the Bible.
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Looking at two events in the Bible, the
transfiguration or even the resurrection
of Lazarus in the Bible, when you analyze
them and break them down, they're
pointing out steps we are required to do
if we want to experience the benefits
offered in Scripture,
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this idea of being Whole.
Swami, I like in the book of John
where it begins with, "All things are
made by him, and what was not made by him
was not made." Could you
break that down for us?
Yeah, an interesting thing about that
statement in the book of John is, if you
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notice in the Bible, the transfiguration
is in Matthew, Mark, and Luke, and it's
not mentioned in the book of John. The
reason is that the book of John begins
with the transfiguration. All things were
made by him, and what was not made by him
was not made. The Bible is a progression
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itself and builds on a
process leading up to Revelation.
And for me, it is a way of looking at
this as instruction.
Even the transfiguration itself, Jesus
takes James, Peter, and John to the
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mountaintop where
Moses and Elijah appear.
These are seven steps here which can be
understood to mean something like the
joining of Principle,
Soul, Life, Love, and Mind.
Enable the joining of Truth with Spirit
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which brings the Light
of Divine Revelation.
So again, as you open this up and you
start to see what is my responsibility in
inducing this God experience.
Swami, how would you break down the
resurrection of Lazarus into steps that
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maybe we could learn from?
Yeah, the way I outline it is, Step One:
the purified human
consciousness is put in the tomb.
Step Two (27:35):
the sisters write Jesus
symbolizing a stirring in the mind-body
complex to know the Divine Self.
Step Three:
Jesus goes to Bethany symbolizing a
turning in consciousness from mental
material to Spiritual.
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Step Four:
Martha greets Jesus symbolizing the
attuning of the physical body to the
Divine Idea. Step Five (28:06):
Martha greets Mary.
Mary greets Jesus.
Symbolizing the attuning of the mortal mind
to the Divine Idea. Step Six:
the sisters show Jesus
where Lazarus is waiting.
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Step Seven:
Christ calls the purified human
consciousness out of the
false sense of existence.
So here we're breaking that down into a
way of us
understanding my responsibility,
again, in inducing this God experience.
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Working with the mind-body complex,
educating thought up to Spiritual
apprehension and then eventually walking
reason through the
open door of Revelation.
And this is what I would call Knowing the
Truth that makes us free. And these are
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the steps of becoming
Whole, Complete, Perfect.
Swami, thank you again for your insights
on today's episode, The
Various Steps to Becoming Whole.
Listeners, be sure to visit the website,
www.ipdtransform.com. On any of those
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press that would further your
understandings. Swami, any final thoughts
about today's episode?
I would like to encourage people to join
the Kriya Yoga Spiritual Advance, get the
light in your soul
and be Divine. Namaste.
Thank you for listening to our program,
The Voice of Yoga. This is Lisa Winton
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along with Swami Jayananda signing off.
Have a wonderful Kriya
Yoga realization. Namaste.