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March 25, 2023 64 mins

"Ka mua, ka muri" is a whakatauki that many will know means "walking backwards into the future" - the idea we should look to the past to inform the future.

We felt that this podcast with Lee really embodies "walking backwards into the future" as Lee helps the next generation of young Māori and Pasifika understand that the things, they need to be innovators are all told in the stories of their ancestors.

In this episode Troy Hammond chats with Lee Timutimu.

We chat about Lee's mission to increase both representation and participation of Māori in tech. His personal background kōrero of how he personally got into STEM and what he is doing to help young Māori and Pasifika to enter STEM.


Lee is CEO of Arataki Systems - a Māori owned, whānau (family) owned tech company that he founded in 2016.

He has 20+ years working in IT and is a Founder & Co-Founder of multiple community initiatives that seek to empower Māori communities in the tech and digital space.


Born and raised in Whakatāne, Lee now lives with his whānau in Kirikiriroa (Hamilton). Troy and Lee had a wonderful chat about the great work that Lee is doing and we hope you enjoy this podcast as much as we did shooting it.


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