February 10, 2025 • 52 mins
Renowned coach Megan Sillito joins us to share her remarkable journey from a life anchored in hustle and fear to one filled with self-trust and intuition. Through an engaging blend of energy work, neuroscience, and leadership principles, Megan reveals how prioritizing loyalty to one's energy can lead to genuine freedom and unexpected joy. Her transformative story is a testament to the power of connecting with the heart to break free from societal expectations and find true alignment with personal values.
Listeners are invited to explore the awe-inspiring "Live Your Magic" events, where Megan helps participants awaken their ancient gifts and intuitive abilities. It's about more than just attending a workshop—it's stepping into a whole new consciousness that Megan herself navigates, allowing for profound realizations and healing. By embracing experiential engagement, Megan encourages us to trust ourselves and tap into our unique talents, sharing her own path of reconnecting with these abilities after overcoming childhood trauma.
We'll explore the heart as a powerful guide, bridging the spiritual and physical realms. Megan discusses the importance of an open heart, the pitfalls of disconnecting emotions, and how love can transcend pain and expectations. From embracing flexibility and adaptability to cultivating high-frequency performance, Megan's insights offer a refreshing perspective on personal growth. Her new programs and retreats aim to harness this potential, providing listeners with tools to channel their energy and creativity. Join us for this transformative conversation, filled with gratitude, love, and a deep respect for the human journey.
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Joya (00:00):
Megan Sillito is not your average coach.
For nearly three decades, shehas guided thousands to tap into
their unique genius, dissolvingthe limiting beliefs that hold
them back and creating lives ofpurpose, joy and alignment.
Megan's approach isrevolutionary.
She integrates energy, work,neuroscience and leadership
principles to empower energetichigh achievers to lead with
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confidence and ease.
Her passion is helping youunlock your full potential and
trust in your ability to createthe life you desire.
When you know how to trustyourself, the possibilities
become endless.
Megan, thank you for joining meon.
We Woke Up Like this.
I'm so excited you're here.
Megan (00:39):
I am so excited to be here, joya, I just adore you,
and there's some kind of buzzbetween us.
I've been wanting to figure outwhat it is, so let's just let's
see what happens.
Let's just let her rip.
Joya (00:54):
Well, you know that the theme for this year, my whole
theme, is about liberationliberating your truest self and
stepping into that fullestexpression of who you are.
And I love right here that yousaid when you know how to trust
yourself, the possibilities areendless.
So, Megan, let's just jump offwith this question what role or
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how does trust factor intoliberating yourself?
Megan (01:19):
Well, what I can say is that without it, you tend to do
a lot of hustle and grind andforce and control, and it's not
like I think I actually achievedquite a bit not trusting myself
.
But it just is a lot of work,man.
It's just so much work becausethe not trusting yourself
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creates a fear that then youhave to try to overcome.
And I think, for me, mylearning to trust myself started
with coming back into my heartand starting to remember love
and take the layers of numb offthe heart, and so I was able to
start.
I didn't know, I think in oneway I didn't know if I could
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trust myself, but I knew I couldtrust love and I knew I had a
lot of it.
So that's the door I went in,you know, and I don't know.
I think it kind of takes alifetime, my clients, which is
do you trust yourself to bringforth that which really matters
to you?
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And I think that for me, because, like I've always known, I was
here to really do stuff andchange stuff and spark stuff
Right, and so when I wasn'tdoing that, I felt like shit.
I don't know if I can say thaton this podcast, but I did, I
felt crappy and so my wholeprocess has been about, I would
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say, testing until I trusted andthen moving deeper into that
loving heart space.
And then moving deeper intothat loving heart space because
I think that's freedom when youtrust yourself to bring forward
what really matters to you.
And there's a differencebetween do I trust myself to
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make a million dollars and checkthe boxes and all of that.
A lot of times that's notreally aligned with your values
and so people go for that kindof stuff.
A lot of times that's notreally aligned with your values
and so people go for that kindof stuff.
They sometimes get it,sometimes don't, but it doesn't
happen in the way that they want.
It doesn't give them what theythink that it's going to give
them.
But when you ask yourself whatreally matters and you develop
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that sense of self that youstart trusting yourself to bring
it into being, I think that'swhat, for me, that's what
freedom is.
Joya (03:48):
I love that and you know I would have to say freedom is
trusting yourself and to knowthat you have your own back,
like you don't self-betrayyourself anymore.
For me and for me when I thinkof self-trust only because I've
struggled my whole life withmyself that it was really that
issue of stopping theself-sabotage, stopping doing
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the things that I knew werecausing me to not trust myself.
Megan (04:15):
Yeah, for me, trusting myself is also about following
the whispers like my intuitionthe whispers like my intuition,
even when it doesn't make anysense, and being more loyal to
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energy than to agenda.
Joya (04:38):
Say more about that being more loyal to energy than agenda
.
Megan (04:41):
Well, I think we can go okay, this is what I need to do.
I need to do this, this andthis, and then I'm a good
conscious person if I do allthese things and I do it in this
way and we're being in thepersonal growth and development.
We're being handed so manyformulas right now.
It's like I could just throw up.
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Over the years, I've had a lotof interesting points of view
about what I think I should bedoing versus what the energy is
saying to do, and to me, that'sme not betraying myself is when
I listen to the energy, it'slike following that, even if it
doesn't make any sense.
There's been so many timeswhere I try to force a launch,
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right, and it's like not right,it's not the right time, it's
not.
You know what I mean.
And as soon as I let go, itjust comes together in this
other way.
Or there was another piece thatI needed, or whatever.
Or there's like okay, this ishow I should eat is.
But when I listen to my bodyright, that's a whole different.
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Uh, it's a following of what isand what's true, and the
current that's running throughme.
Yes, that's what I want to beloyal to.
I want to learn how to be loyalto that, even if it doesn't
make no sense, because that'swhen I had the most fun, like
the trip we went on to Irelandright, it was so fun, it was a
goddess trip.
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Like I was like what the hellam I doing on this, but it was
amazing and magical and perfectand all of the things you know.
Joya (06:21):
I love that distinction between like what the energy is
with your intuition, and thoseenergetic nudges not being the
same as your mood You're nottalking about.
I don't feel like it.
This is something.
Megan (06:33):
This is coming from a deeper place inside of you
Learning how to distinguishbetween the energy, the
alignment, and what I feel likeor what I think I should be
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doing or I shouldn't be doing.
Either that or I'll beexhausted.
I'll make it work.
I'll be in tune.
Joya (07:00):
It can happen, megan, let's talk magic.
Megan (07:08):
Oh yeah.
Joya (07:11):
I knew you were going to be excited about the topic of
magic.
So what is magic to Megan Wow?
Megan (07:18):
I have so much to say about that, but I think, simply,
it's being connected to lifeforce in a way that allows you
to play and direct with the lifeforce and the magic and the
aliveness of the moleculesthat's all around us in the
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universe.
It's kind of a dance.
So what I see is that there'ssort of this magic of the
universe and the earth and it'sall around us, and you know,
that's what's really beautifulabout our magical trips is that
we get to step into some ofthose places where you can
literally almost see and feelall of that Right, and so I
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think that there's a lot ofpeople who believe in that, but
they don't actually know thatthey actually have that and more
, and so for me, magic is aboutcultivating that within myself
and learning how to then connectit with the magic that's out
there in a really beautiful likeco-creative, collaborative
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dance.
Joya (08:27):
And is this something that you are able to teach your
clients how to do?
Megan (08:32):
Yes, and it's kind of funny because I don't know how I
do it exactly.
You know I do.
Joya (08:41):
Well, learn about me.
Well, number one, I've beenaround around you so I know how
powerful you are.
But you're because you are amagician literally you are a
magician that you have thatvibrational frequency of being a
magician, and so people who areworking with you are falling
into your coherent frequency andit just brings them into
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alignment because you carry thatvibration.
Megan (09:07):
Yeah, you said that very simply, thank you.
Yeah, I appreciate that.
I have an event that I've takenall over the world called Live
your Magic, and there's aparticular energy or frequency
that I learned that I could tapor that I am.
I think I've always been in it.
Is that what you're talkingabout?
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Is there's this resonance, thisfrequency, but I bring it in a
very conscious, directed mannerinto that space and then we play
leapfrog, because whoever likelets themselves receive it.
Everybody kind of jumps up withthem and we kind of all do that
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together and what I'vediscovered is that what it does
is it activates people's gifts,like there's, there's people in
the workshop that will literallylike open up to ancient gifts
that they had.
There was this girl one timethat grabbed somebody's wrist
and all of a sudden realizedthat she could tell what their
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pulse was, what their heart ratewas, what all these internal
processes, and she had thisrecall of being a medical
intuitive in another life.
And she wasn't wooey, she waspretty straight laced when she
walked in the door.
She was, she was pretty, like,straight laced when she walked
in the door.
I've been through a process ofreally owning some very strange
things that I, that it just it.
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I can't.
I can claim it in that it is me, but it's not like I went to
school for it, or it just comeswith.
You know, press play comes withall of this energy, you know.
So are you still doing the Liveyour Magic workshops?
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I am.
I haven't done it for about ayear.
There's something else thatwants to come through it and I
kind of feel like it's adifferent frequency that I need
to get to before I do the nextone.
There's just it's like righthere and it's like OK, you're
almost there, there's some otherthings you got to step into
first.
I'm like OK, but it's differentthan most of my other creations
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in that it bosses me around,you know.
It tells me where it's going,it tells me when and for how
many cookies, and I don't.
It's not something that I getto say.
I'm doing three Live yourMagics this year.
It's something it's, I believe,and my experience is is that
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our creations have consciousness, I agree, and, just like some
authors, have characters thattalk to them.
Right, my Live your Magic isvery.
I have an interestingrelationship through it.
I co-create with it very much.
It's my co-facilitator and ittells me, it really oftentimes
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is driven by pieces of land,areas that need energy and that
have an energy to contribute toit.
Joya (12:26):
That makes complete sense to me resonance, that
vibrational frequency ofstepping into that liminal space
, where you're in that space ofmagic, and that just being in
that environment changes yousomehow.
Well, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
So that would is live yourmagic.
And what's the word?
What's what?
It's something's dropping inand I'm like slow down in my
mind.
I'm slow down so I canarticulate it.
I'm seeing, um, uh, is like uh,a gift, a package being
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delivered to you.
It's like from the universe.
That's like here, this is yours, this is yours to take it, it's
not yours to own, it's yours tobring it to manifestation on
the planet, but it is the bossof you and I totally get that.
And I'm curious what the nextlevel of it will be.
Do you have any kind ofinklings?
Megan (13:13):
I don't know if this is quite the right language, but it
doesn't want to be a workshop,it wants to be an event.
Joya (13:21):
Yes and yeah, because I'm feeling like this is the year of
experience.
It's like no more talking aboutthings, no more explaining
things, no more books aboutthings.
It's time to like bite into theapple.
You don't need to read aboutthe apple, don't need to talk
about the apple, don't need tostudy the apple.
You just got to pick up theapple and take a bite.
Megan (13:39):
Yeah.
Joya (13:40):
And see what's there for you.
Megan (13:43):
And that's very much like some kind of a birthing into
this deeper embodiment thatoccurs and again, I cannot put
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even an outline for this.
There's some signature event,there's signature processes a
couple that I have that Ioftentimes do not every time and
they change depending on thegroup, and that's part of it is
that I'm delivering the messagefor that specific group, I'm
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being the channel for whateverthat group needs to bring forth.
So there's, I literally channelfor three days, like other than
those signature processes.
So I'm not even in charge ofwhat I say.
I totally get it.
It's just coming through, youknow.
Joya (14:53):
Yeah.
Have you always been like thissince you were a child?
Have you always been divinelyconnected and highly intuitive,
or is this something thatdeveloped over time?
Megan (15:02):
Well, it's interesting because I think part of that
trust conversation we werehaving that I really broke trust
with that at some part, justgoing through all the trauma,
drama of childhood that some ofus go through, and I had to
reclaim that at some pointbecause I got very, very
disconnected from it.
But my older siblings describeme as like a little Buddha as a
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kid, just like you said, justobserving what was happening in
the family, right?
So I do think I came that way,but I had to.
I had to, I had to find itagain.
I got.
I got myself disconnected fromit.
Joya (15:44):
Yeah, as most of us do, who come in with these gifts,
that they get disconnected andthen it becomes the game of
finding them again and learningto trust yourself A little hide
and seek inside of you.
Yeah, Megan, you said somethingin the beginning too that
self-trust and redeveloping theself-trust in order to step into
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this beautiful gift ofchanneling and being present
with what is and knowing justthe right thing to say, like
you're so good at meeting peopleright where they are.
You said something aboutthawing out the layers of the
heart and moving back into theheart.
What role do you think theheart plays in being your
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liberated, truest, mostauthentic self you could be?
Megan (16:36):
That's a beautiful question, because I think that
if you would have even asked mea year ago, like kind of what,
what I thought my message wasfor the world, it would have
been somewhere in theneighborhood of opening
possibility, right, I would.
I'm starting to think that mygig is love, you know, and I
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just have had a lot of woundingaround that and I set up my
particular circumstance in lifeto have that sort of torn at my
birth.
So I've been coming back to, Ifeel like I put a lot of
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protections around my heart.
Also, I think a lot ofsensitives do, like this world
is kind of messy and difficultand harsh when you're super
sensitive, right.
So for me, the heart, I think,holds the seat of our desire,
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which desire holds the seeds ofour purpose, of why we're here.
I feel that the heart knows thefuture, you know, and what and
I essentially, like if I were tosay what I thought the role was
it's the intermediary betweenspirit and the physical
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dimension.
It's because, like, we can getreally caught in 3D, right, and
like, oh, what's going to happen, you know, or I see a lot of
spiritual people like kind ofnot being in the body.
body, yes, it's the body yeah,but I think the heart is such a
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beautiful bridge of spirit andbody and and and mind.
Actually I think it's, I thinkit's the true compass of like if
, if we can listen to our heart,it'll tell us where we need to
go and what's next.
And it's almost it's so funnybecause I've spent 59 years
protecting myself, but it'sactually the very safest place
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to be is in an open heart.
Joya (18:49):
You know, when we have our hearts get hardened like that
and protecting the heart and Iknow for me it sent me straight
up here Shut down the heart, goto the mind, operate from the
mind, use your logic, use yourreason and get shit done, yeah.
Megan (19:08):
Yep, totally.
And I had a very mental family.
I had my older siblings where alot of them had a very genius
IQ like Mensa type level of themhad a very like genius IQ like
Mensa type level.
And I actually did a medicinejourney a few years ago where I
literally relived the moment asa child where I was like, okay,
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if I start talking, I'm going toleave this place of being.
I have a choice to join them inthe mental world because in
order to survive in my family,you had to be very mentally
sharp.
My father had his PhD ineducation.
Education was huge andintellect was everything.
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Hey, like, if I'm going to jointhese people, I'm going to lose
a piece of this, I'm going tolose a piece of my being,
somehow, like I could see thatit was that I literally had this
moment of do I join them or not?
But I was taken back throughthat moment of how, language,
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kind of partitions, the being ohmy gosh, yes, it does.
Joya (20:20):
And you know, oh my gosh.
Okay, I'm getting very excitedabout that because I've always
been such a word nerd andlanguage is so important to me
and I was in a meditationrecently, as I'm going through
my own unfolding and my ownheart thawing process of having
my heart just opening more, andopening more and opening more,
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that I came into this meditationwhere I was like in the void
and this thought dropped in thatwas like this is who you are.
I was in this feeling of thevoid and it wasn't an empty void
by any stretch of theimagination.
It was full of life andexpansiveness and so much love.
And then this thought droppedin that said this is who you are
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, without the labels of who youthink you are.
Megan (21:10):
That's delicious.
You got a taste of you.
Joya (21:14):
And it opened up my heart.
How is the heart a portal?
What's your experience withthat?
Megan (21:18):
How is the heart a portal ?
What's your experience withthat?
Hmm, hmm, well, I think it'sagain like you said it, it goes.
It's the language of the heart,is energy, it's consciousness,
it's not mind Right.
And to me, if I'm connectedwith the heart, I'm connected to
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the entire universe.
Like you can be in all placesat once.
Joya (21:48):
Yeah, it's like a quantum instrument inside of us.
Megan (21:51):
Yeah, and I think it's interesting that you know, in
the last decade they've come outwith research that the heart
has more neurons right in thebrain.
Of course this is actuallycommand central and like I think
so much of the destruction hascome from this being command
central.
Yes, yes, gotta be like alittle flippy flip, but I just,
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I just have this knowing that myheart is way more credible
about the possibilities of myfuture than any part of my brain
or psyche.
Right, my heart is like go here, do this.
Everything good comes from thatright.
Like, oh, that looks cool.
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Well, that doesn't make anysense.
Oh, probably should go in thatdirection if that doesn't make
any sense.
But it lights my heart up, youknow, and I think people spend
too much time trying torationalize and justify what the
heart wants or what the heartknows, and then we just take
longer and it's just harder toget where we're going.
Joya (23:01):
Do you feel like, when we activate our heart portal and we
still use our mind, of course,we still use our personality, we
still use our ego, but we useit in service of something
greater than ourselves.
And do you feel like, when youactivate your heart center again
, that you really activate yourhidden, dormant, latent gifts
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that are lying inside of you,like your ability to channel the
different clear senses that cancome on board?
Do you think that those twothings are connected?
Megan (23:32):
Absolutely the last couple months that I've been
really practicing.
Practicing like, coming in andyou know, and, and sometimes it
looks like standing there in theface of something that's hard
or harsh and staying open.
Sometimes it's just from hiheart how you doing today, like,
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music, different ways, but I'mvery intentional about like and
and asking you know, I call uh,I call the universe G, so like,
because it kind of covers likegrace, gratitude the big G, the
big G like I'm like G, like Idon't know how to open this back
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up.
This is a big, this is a big one, and it I feel like it's.
I think that in the past, Ithink that I have the heart has
been disconnected from otherparts of me, and so sometimes
it's gotten me in trouble in acertain way.
But the opposite is also truewhat I'm connected to my
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intellect and not my heart.
But there's something about um,like if I and and like as we're
talking, I'm starting to thisis this is sort of coming in.
Which is that like.
I think that part of what Liveyour Magic is waiting for is a
more full access to heart,because magic can be grounded
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and balanced in a different waywhen the heart's online.
So people are using magic thatare disconnected from heart,
from heart.
That's when it can go sideways,or what we hear about like dark
magic or magic blowing up inpeople's faces and stuff like
that.
I think that for me, it's likeeverything that's grounded in
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the heart is like gettingconnected to like a supernova
engine, like it's turning.
It can turn on and up andground these higher frequencies,
because some of our capacitieshave such a high frequency that
we haven't been able to embodythem fully yet.
Frequency energy it also helpsme trust the magic that's coming
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forward, because I know that ifit's running through love and
it's going to serve, it's notgoing to do any harm, and so I
think that's also part oflearning how to trust my magic
is letting it run through theheart, letting the heart be the
engine for it.
But yeah, I feel like there'shealing capacities in the heart
that are beyond anything thatwe've quantified.
Joya (26:28):
What was your journey to thawing out your heart, from
going from that highlyintellectual creator to being a
more heart centered creator?
Are you still on that journey?
Megan (26:40):
obviously you said you were, so yeah, and I'm I, I
think it's infinite, I think ourheart, I think like it's, it's,
like it's a portal to placesand spaces and I think I will
always be on the journey, youknow and um, but what led me
your question and what led me toit?
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Well, like, I just fucked abunch of shit up, you know, like
you did the, you did the fopomethod of figuring life out.
Yep, I did yeah, and I I chosesome things that created a lot
of pain for me and a lot ofplaces where I justified
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shutting down, where I justifiedlike fuck it, you know.
But in the healing process Idon't know when it was, but I
was like I want to feel loveagain.
Living in the intellect is likebeing a four-year-old given
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knives to play with Jugglingknives.
Being in the intellect withoutconnection to the heart is kind
of a dangerous place to be.
Like connection to the heart iskind of a dangerous place to be
.
I think that even when I'm shutdown, people would say that they
feel love for me, that theyfeel even when I'm shut down,
they feel like maybe they havemore of an unconditional love
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experience with me than anybodythey have ever met.
So even when I think I'mmanaging it well, it's not
really being managed that well,because it's who I am and I just
noticed that it started like itjust it just given me some kind
of juice that I wasn't gettingin any other way, and I've been
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uncovering, like in this process, like basically I created a
scenario where my heart wouldget broken upon my birth, you
know, and all the stuff sinceand all the recreations out of
that, since were really aboutreclaiming that, honoring that
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and opening up to that magic,because the heart is.
I think the heart is the mostmagic magic of all.
Joya (29:05):
It's so interesting how we shut it down too, and then how
it's oh my gosh, it takes somuch for us to open it back up
again.
And I'm wondering does it haveto take so much for us to open
it back up again?
There a shortcut if you canbreak your heart closed, can you
break your heart open?
Megan (29:23):
yeah, yeah, I like that, joya, I like that, yeah, because
I I do feel it was interesting.
Um, on christmas eve, I thinkthere's a real magic around, uh,
the holidays, like it didn'tmatter whether you're Christian
or whatever.
There's like some kind ofenergy that I feel, and it's not
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religious in nature, it's justlike a zing.
In Christmas Eve, I said, okay,gee, I said I'm going to ask
straight up I want an open heartfor Christmas.
That's what I'm asking forChristmas.
I want to open my heart.
And within like an hour, Icreated this whole heartbreaking
experience.
I'm like, really, are you sureyou know?
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Well, I asked, didn't I?
But yes, that was actuallytruthfully, it was a breaking
open.
Joya (30:18):
Sometimes breaking apart is breaking open, right?
Megan (30:22):
Yeah, tell us about that messy process, the breaking open
process, the breaking openprocess.
I received a message that was.
It was asking me there's a.
One of my favorite songs is Ithink it's Steve Winwood, I'm
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not sure it's called Higher Love, and there's a newer version
that's very, very spiritual andlike, oh like.
It's very cool.
I haven't liked any of theremixes until this one and I
actually like it better becauseit's actually hitting the
frequency of what I think HigherLum is.
But what I felt like happenedbecause it felt like the hardest
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news.
But I actually was asking me tolove outside of possession of
like what I think somebodyshould do or how they should
return it or in what way theyshould reciprocate my love,
because I think in this realitywe have love and possession
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mixed up.
Joya (31:32):
Oh yeah, I love this.
I love that.
It's mine, it's my preference.
It's like you mistakepreference for love, yeah.
Megan (31:40):
Yeah, and I think that really pain doesn't have
anything to do with love.
I think we've also connectedthat up.
I think love is an energy and afrequency that's always
available under allcircumstances, like I know
because I've had that experience.
Right, well, this should bereally shitty, but all I can
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feel is love right now,interesting, right, and so.
But I think why we shut back toyour question about how can we
make it easier to open up, Ithink it's learning how to under
, like really getting that, likethe pain.
Pain is pain and love is love,but we collapse them, and in
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that collapsing is when we shutdown.
Oh, it's painful to love, it'shard to love.
Well, actually, mostly what'shappening is that love isn't
matching our pictures, but it'snot supposed to.
Like there was no contract madethat love would meet our
pictures.
You know, like I thought Isigned something that you know,
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love is supposed to be prettyand horns and all the things.
Happy, happy, happy, yeah, yeah, I just I feel like there I was
called to a higher love throughthat moment of, oh, you're
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going to love me different, youknow, and so, and I'm not, I
don't feel like I've hit thathigher love stride yet you know,
but I know that that was ananswer to my prayer of, like I
want to live open hearted.
(33:28):
And open hearted doesn't meanif everything fits my pictures
and everything works out rightand everybody does what I want
them to do.
Joya (33:39):
I always say gee, gee answers prayers in ways you
understand, not ways you want.
That's what I always say.
I'm like, oh, I understandexactly what this is.
I know for me for a long timeit was, you know, my prayer to
have an open heart, my prayer toheal this or release that, that
what would come up is what's inthe way of that.
It's like, okay, well, here itis.
(33:59):
We're going to make it bigger,worse, stronger, so that you
can't miss it.
Now I try to choose not to haveto learn my lessons that way.
Megan (34:15):
And you know something that I have seen in myself and
this has actually helped me letgo of a lot of judgment of, like
, the size of the messes I make.
I always say you can tell thecaliber of person by the size of
the mess they make.
Because if you've got a lot ofenergy flowing through you, if
you're like a real live circuit,then if you point that thing
just a little bit off, you'regoing to create a flood, you're
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going to create troubles.
If you're just a little dripand you're off, it's not a
problem.
But if you're big energy, it'slike you create big greatness
but you also create big messes.
But that's actually how welearn faster A water finds the
fastest path to the bottom ofthe mountain, it'll jump off
cliffs.
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It will find the fastest, noteasiest.
The fastest path will find thefastest, not easiest the fastest
path.
And I think those of us whosigned up to be sort of the
conscious leaders at this time,I feel like we wanted to move as
fast as possible into thatconsciousness, which meant
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jumping off some cliffs, whichmeant blowing up some stuff,
because that was the fastest waythat we could get to that next
level, you know, and so I justhave really come to really love
my big play and all of the waysthat in you know, it lights
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people up and changes the worldand blow shit up.
But it's all of it, you know,and but that's.
I think that's part of that.
Mess thing is that we're asconscious beings, we're choosing
things that will give us themost juice, the fastest.
Joya (35:57):
Oh, I love that and, oh my gosh, I have made some really
big messes being my little livewire self out there making stuff
happen that didn't need to behappening.
But I also have like and I lovethis conversation because you
just helped me to have thiswhole like idea around like if
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life is your art right, and I'man artist, yes, then my life is
my art and therefore there areno mistakes.
It's all just lessons andlearning.
Megan (36:30):
My friend's father was an artist out of Princeton and one
of the things he taught meabout art he says, megan, he
says you know it distinguisheslike really, really high quality
art.
And he said it's actually notthe perfection, it's the
specific mistake that the artistmakes in the work, the way that
they make the.
(36:50):
And mistake isn't quite right,but in terms of what good art is
right, like that, the artiststhat don't do it quite right,
it's that becomes kind of theirsignature Right.
And I have, I've always, I'vealways remembered that is like
it's it.
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You know, it's part of our work.
Of art is the mess we make.
Joya (37:32):
And I was trying to look up just now.
I'm like, oh my gosh, there's afamous artist and I can't think
of who it was.
Megan (37:40):
And he was having his piece installed in a museum and
they dropped.
Able to get to this point?
Is our sense of humor Like, ifyou can't laugh at the shit,
like you're effed man, it's likeit's too big and gnarly this
tubular we're in.
Joya (37:57):
you know, otherwise I won't be able to survive what
will be piled on me from such ayoung age Coming into the broken
heart, just like you said, likethe minute at birth, broken,
yeah, yeah.
And I feel like a lot of thelightworkers and yeah, way
(38:17):
showers, lightworkers, peoplewho know people like, yeah, you
feel that right.
You just know you always feellike you're here for something
more, you're here for somethingbigger.
That has always just kind ofpulled you along.
Megan (38:30):
Yeah, and I think that's part of like being true to
yourself and developing trust isstarting to really follow those
poles, is starting to reallyfollow those poles and like,
even when they don't make sense,even when sometimes those poles
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actually create some big mess,but you needed to do that to get
to that next thing.
You know, and like I thinkthat's the other thing is that
people, like they have anintuition about something and it
doesn't work out how theirbrain thinks it's supposed to go
.
Like I had an intuition to dothat and everything went to hell
.
Well, probably becauseeverything was supposed to go to
hell and that was like thefastest way for you to get to
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that other place, you know.
And so it's like I think it'sreally important to find ways to
get out of our interestingpoints of view about how we
think it's supposed to go.
Joya (39:26):
Less rigidity, more flexibility.
Be like water.
I mean, you said I just lovethat analogy be like water, and
water that stays put getsstagnant and mossy it gets
mosquitoes.
So we don't want to be stagnantwater, We'll be flowing water.
It stinks too.
Megan, what do you have comingup?
(39:49):
Do you have any kind ofprograms?
Or I know you have your live,your magic, working its magic on
you, but what do you have goingon?
Or your coaching abilities?
Where can people find you?
Because you're just soincredible.
Megan (40:03):
Thank you, love.
Well, people can go to mywebsite.
It's just my name,megansilitocom.
I'll spell that in a sec, butright now I'm running my new
signature group coaching calledHigh Frequency Performance
Academy.
Joya (40:18):
By the way, pause, I love that name.
Thank you so much thank you.
Megan (40:26):
Well, I realized that that's who I work with.
I work with sensitive and andgetting to what is high
performance.
For us, like the, I would saythat traditional coaching is
like a different kind of highperformance Raw, raw, go, go,
push, push, all that.
But we're actually, I think,neurodivergence people who are
(40:49):
more energetically sensitive.
Our way to that is very, verydifferent and there's really
nothing out there that talksabout that.
Because if I, when I try tocreate something based on the
formula that's mostly beingtaught, I just Same, uh-huh,
yeah, and at the end of the day,you and I know it's like when
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my frequency is in resonancewith that which I want or I am
creating, then that's when it'soccurring and it's more of an
energy game than a push forstructure game and it also
requires a development of thenervous system in a different
(41:35):
way.
So a lot of people are talkingabout nervous system reset.
Because so a lot of people aretalking about nervous system
reset and that's actually juststep one, like that's just the
basics of getting regulated.
Then we have to developresiliency and then we have to
create robustness, because theenergy and frequency that I'm
(41:57):
here to bring, that you're hereto bring in some ways has been
beyond what our bodies couldflow, Because I don't know if
you've had this, but like so totake this into layman's terms,
like boom and bust, where, likeI'll let something really big
come through and then I'll belike meh, pfft, oh, yes, oh,
(42:23):
crap out for like three monthsand not kind of.
I mean, I'm still doing myclients and stuff, but I'm not
able to keep going.
And I realized that that wasactually a function of the
dysregulation that I was in, butthat it actually I actually had
to create my nervous system tobe able to run the higher
frequencies so that I couldactually sustain it and not like
(42:47):
sort of crap out after.
And I don't think that it wasanything's been wrong, it's just
that it hasn't been availableuntil now.
Right, I feel like we did whatwe had to do while we could do
it.
Joya (43:02):
Yeah, and you're exactly right.
If you think about everything,everything is energy.
We are conduits of energy,we're running energy through our
system all the time.
You know, I'm thinking likewhen you plug something in.
If I were to go plug somethingthat needs a 220 volt wattage
into my 60 watt plug, it's goingto blow up.
And the same is exactly true ofus.
(43:23):
And that's why, when we'reasking for things like open my
heart, help me to step into mypurpose, help me to show up how
I'm meant to be, showing up thatthe things you're doing that
are not in alignment with thatare going to show up first, so
that you can change yourbehavior.
But then, you're exactly right,you have to prepare your
nervous system to be able tohandle that new wattage, that
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new vibration of frequencythat's coming through you, to be
your new homeostasis.
Megan (43:52):
Yes, yeah, and I've used that exact metaphor.
It's like if we put all thetechnology that we run through
our houses now through a housefrom the 1940s, it would blow it
up.
And that's, I think, what a lotof us have been doing is that
we've been accessing these highvoltage frequencies but our
bodies haven't been ready forthem entirely.
(44:13):
Like we're pulling them throughas much as we can for as long
as we can, but it's time.
I think it's time to be able tolive that high vibe.
It's time to be able to flowthat big frequency and continue
the increase of the frequency.
Not like you know, and so I'm.
That's really the cracks ofwhere my work's been going over
(44:37):
this last year.
I've been doing a lot of workaround nervous system reset and
then the resiliency, and thenthe High Frequency Performance.
Academy is about actuallycreating your system at a level
that it can run those highfrequencies through it
consistently and not force andpush things and honor the
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neurodivergent self that we are,that we actually do and can
facilitate multidimensionalthings at once.
Doing one thing at a time, onestep at a time, is actually the
best thing for us.
It actually slows us down, butwe've been taught our whole
lives.
This is how you do now.
(45:21):
You need to do one thing untilit's done.
You know it's like um no, thatdoesn't work.
Joya (45:29):
I will be so bored I will not finish it.
Megan (45:33):
Right, right, yeah.
So that's one big thing thatI'm playing with and and I'm
bringing more things out.
I've got a in-person retreatcoming out in May, a high-flying
in-person retreat, where we'regoing to be doing a lot of stuff
to turn the system on, to beable to run those higher
energies through it.
(45:53):
I have a program coming up inabout a month called Quest, and
it's a program I've done before,but I am going to bring some
live components into it.
But it's a gamified creationprogram where you try on
different characters as youcreate.
Whatever it is that you'recreating.
(46:14):
So it's based on the hero'sjourney, and so every day you
quest, you go on a quest fromPeter Pan.
How would Peter Pan create this?
How would a billionaire look atthis?
Because one of the things thatI find is that people try to
create from the same energy thatthey always create from.
(46:35):
Okay, let's get out the visionboard.
There's nothing wrong with that, but it's like you're actually
in your personality too much,and so the ideas that you have
are kind of the stuff you'vealready done and you can't
create something new doingsomething you've already done in
that way, and so it's a way toaccess different frequencies.
(46:56):
It's a way to access differentideas and consciousness, and I
just love character play anyway.
So in this program you quest asyourself sometimes and as these
different characters and youfollow, you learn how to develop
your intuition with followingthe energy.
(47:16):
I call it G-Winks, so like Icall it winks and wanks, so it's
kind of I think that theuniverse is the biggest like
hotter, colder game on theplanet.
So that's coming up and Iactually have a gift for your
group called.
It's a little training that Idid called Create Like a Ninja,
(47:37):
and so it's just an example ofcreating in a different mind
frame and a set of frame.
But also because anything thatyou admire it's reflecting back
some of your capacities, it'sreflecting back things you have
inside.
So it's this particulartraining, because I have
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trainings on looking andactivating gifts of all kinds of
different types of archetypes,I would say.
But this one is getting peoplein touch with their ninja.
There's some of their stealthenergies.
Joya (48:17):
Wow, you are just such a well neurodivergent.
Oh, and, have you heard thisterm?
I just discovered this termbecause somebody used it to
describe me and I was like, ohmy gosh, I didn't know there was
a word.
It's called multi-potentialite.
Multi-potentialite is a personwho can step in and do many
things super well.
(48:38):
So these are not people who arein a box just like you said.
We're not step one, step two,step three like we.
We came in a box and we torethat shit up and we're not even
in a box anymore.
It's, yeah, it's like what box,what box?
So I'm just so grateful thatyou're out there doing this work
and and really, as you yourself, this being this person that
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you're coaching others whodesperately need you and to be
taught and told that whatthey're doing is perfectly okay.
You can be a high performanceindividual, you can be highly
successful individual, and itdoesn't have to look like how
everybody else does it.
Megan (49:20):
I feel to share this.
I worked with this guy in thelast year and a half.
He is an accountant but he'sactually an energy mage and so
when we turned that on in him,it's crazy he literally went
from hourly toFO to like heliterally generated $220,000
(49:46):
extra in that year that I wasworking with him because he went
to his right operating system.
People who are very magical,who have really kind of
condensed themselves Like wetalked about, like it's not safe
(50:09):
.
I'm going to go up into my headand I'm going to get shit done
and I'm going to do the step bystep, and it's actually not
where our greatest gifts lie.
It's in this like bigger energythat's chaotic and a little bit
well, it is uncontrollable.
Really, it's not something youcan control, but how is it ever
fun?
Joya (50:23):
Oh my gosh, Megan, you are just so utterly delightful
Everybody listening.
Please go visit Megan's website.
You definitely have to go checkout what she has going on.
I myself might look intojoining the High Performance
Frequency Academy, becausethat's where I'm at and it's
beautiful and I love beingaround other people who are on
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that same frequency.
It's just different.
It's just different.
Megan (50:49):
I love you so much.
You're such a kindred soul tome and I think our priority for
joy is something that I reallyconnect with you around, because
I'm just I you light me up,like I'm normally the one
lighting a root, like lightingspace up right, like I think you
(51:10):
probably know what I'm talkingabout, but like you're like I
get so much back from you, I'mlike, oh yeah, go, go, go, more,
more, more, more light, morejoy.
Joya (51:23):
And the same is true of you.
So maybe that's got to be whatit is.
It's like, oh, I could get myfiddle of joy and oh, yeah, we
have so much fun and that's,yeah, I follow my joy.
That's kind of my.
My code for them I'm going theright way is follow my joy.
Well, thank you, megan.
I so loved this conversation.
You're just such a one of myfavorite people and I love you
too, and I can't wait to see you, hopefully soon.
(51:44):
Okay, thank you so much.
Thank you, bye-bye, bye.
Thank you for listening to.
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Luminous One.
Megan Sillito is not your average coach.
For nearly three decades, shehas guided thousands to tap into
their unique genius, dissolvingthe limiting beliefs that hold
them back and creating lives ofpurpose, joy and alignment.
Megan's approach isrevolutionary.
She integrates energy, work,neuroscience and leadership
principles to empower energetichigh achievers to lead with
(00:21):
confidence and ease.
Her passion is helping youunlock your full potential and
trust in your ability to createthe life you desire.
When you know how to trustyourself, the possibilities
become endless.
Megan, thank you for joining meon.
We Woke Up Like this.
I'm so excited you're here.
Megan (00:39):
I am so excited to be here, joya, I just adore you,
and there's some kind of buzzbetween us.
I've been wanting to figure outwhat it is, so let's just let's
see what happens.
Let's just let her rip.
Joya (00:54):
Well, you know that the theme for this year, my whole
theme, is about liberationliberating your truest self and
stepping into that fullestexpression of who you are.
And I love right here that yousaid when you know how to trust
yourself, the possibilities areendless.
So, Megan, let's just jump offwith this question what role or
(01:14):
how does trust factor intoliberating yourself?
Megan (01:19):
Well, what I can say is that without it, you tend to do
a lot of hustle and grind andforce and control, and it's not
like I think I actually achievedquite a bit not trusting myself
.
But it just is a lot of work,man.
It's just so much work becausethe not trusting yourself
(01:40):
creates a fear that then youhave to try to overcome.
And I think, for me, mylearning to trust myself started
with coming back into my heartand starting to remember love
and take the layers of numb offthe heart, and so I was able to
start.
I didn't know, I think in oneway I didn't know if I could
(02:04):
trust myself, but I knew I couldtrust love and I knew I had a
lot of it.
So that's the door I went in,you know, and I don't know.
I think it kind of takes alifetime, my clients, which is
do you trust yourself to bringforth that which really matters
to you?
(02:31):
And I think that for me, because, like I've always known, I was
here to really do stuff andchange stuff and spark stuff
Right, and so when I wasn'tdoing that, I felt like shit.
I don't know if I can say thaton this podcast, but I did, I
felt crappy and so my wholeprocess has been about, I would
(02:57):
say, testing until I trusted andthen moving deeper into that
loving heart space.
And then moving deeper intothat loving heart space because
I think that's freedom when youtrust yourself to bring forward
what really matters to you.
And there's a differencebetween do I trust myself to
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make a million dollars and checkthe boxes and all of that.
A lot of times that's notreally aligned with your values
and so people go for that kindof stuff.
A lot of times that's notreally aligned with your values
and so people go for that kindof stuff.
They sometimes get it,sometimes don't, but it doesn't
happen in the way that they want.
It doesn't give them what theythink that it's going to give
them.
But when you ask yourself whatreally matters and you develop
(03:39):
that sense of self that youstart trusting yourself to bring
it into being, I think that'swhat, for me, that's what
freedom is.
Joya (03:48):
I love that and you know I would have to say freedom is
trusting yourself and to knowthat you have your own back,
like you don't self-betrayyourself anymore.
For me and for me when I thinkof self-trust only because I've
struggled my whole life withmyself that it was really that
issue of stopping theself-sabotage, stopping doing
(04:09):
the things that I knew werecausing me to not trust myself.
Megan (04:15):
Yeah, for me, trusting myself is also about following
the whispers like my intuitionthe whispers like my intuition,
even when it doesn't make anysense, and being more loyal to
(04:37):
energy than to agenda.
Joya (04:38):
Say more about that being more loyal to energy than agenda
.
Megan (04:41):
Well, I think we can go okay, this is what I need to do.
I need to do this, this andthis, and then I'm a good
conscious person if I do allthese things and I do it in this
way and we're being in thepersonal growth and development.
We're being handed so manyformulas right now.
It's like I could just throw up.
(05:03):
Over the years, I've had a lotof interesting points of view
about what I think I should bedoing versus what the energy is
saying to do, and to me, that'sme not betraying myself is when
I listen to the energy, it'slike following that, even if it
doesn't make any sense.
There's been so many timeswhere I try to force a launch,
(05:27):
right, and it's like not right,it's not the right time, it's
not.
You know what I mean.
And as soon as I let go, itjust comes together in this
other way.
Or there was another piece thatI needed, or whatever.
Or there's like okay, this ishow I should eat is.
But when I listen to my bodyright, that's a whole different.
(05:49):
Uh, it's a following of what isand what's true, and the
current that's running throughme.
Yes, that's what I want to beloyal to.
I want to learn how to be loyalto that, even if it doesn't
make no sense, because that'swhen I had the most fun, like
the trip we went on to Irelandright, it was so fun, it was a
goddess trip.
(06:09):
Like I was like what the hellam I doing on this, but it was
amazing and magical and perfectand all of the things you know.
Joya (06:21):
I love that distinction between like what the energy is
with your intuition, and thoseenergetic nudges not being the
same as your mood You're nottalking about.
I don't feel like it.
This is something.
Megan (06:33):
This is coming from a deeper place inside of you
Learning how to distinguishbetween the energy, the
alignment, and what I feel likeor what I think I should be
(06:53):
doing or I shouldn't be doing.
Either that or I'll beexhausted.
I'll make it work.
I'll be in tune.
Joya (07:00):
It can happen, megan, let's talk magic.
Megan (07:08):
Oh yeah.
Joya (07:11):
I knew you were going to be excited about the topic of
magic.
So what is magic to Megan Wow?
Megan (07:18):
I have so much to say about that, but I think, simply,
it's being connected to lifeforce in a way that allows you
to play and direct with the lifeforce and the magic and the
aliveness of the moleculesthat's all around us in the
(07:41):
universe.
It's kind of a dance.
So what I see is that there'ssort of this magic of the
universe and the earth and it'sall around us, and you know,
that's what's really beautifulabout our magical trips is that
we get to step into some ofthose places where you can
literally almost see and feelall of that Right, and so I
(08:02):
think that there's a lot ofpeople who believe in that, but
they don't actually know thatthey actually have that and more
, and so for me, magic is aboutcultivating that within myself
and learning how to then connectit with the magic that's out
there in a really beautiful likeco-creative, collaborative
(08:25):
dance.
Joya (08:27):
And is this something that you are able to teach your
clients how to do?
Megan (08:32):
Yes, and it's kind of funny because I don't know how I
do it exactly.
You know I do.
Joya (08:41):
Well, learn about me.
Well, number one, I've beenaround around you so I know how
powerful you are.
But you're because you are amagician literally you are a
magician that you have thatvibrational frequency of being a
magician, and so people who areworking with you are falling
into your coherent frequency andit just brings them into
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alignment because you carry thatvibration.
Megan (09:07):
Yeah, you said that very simply, thank you.
Yeah, I appreciate that.
I have an event that I've takenall over the world called Live
your Magic, and there's aparticular energy or frequency
that I learned that I could tapor that I am.
I think I've always been in it.
Is that what you're talkingabout?
(09:28):
Is there's this resonance, thisfrequency, but I bring it in a
very conscious, directed mannerinto that space and then we play
leapfrog, because whoever likelets themselves receive it.
Everybody kind of jumps up withthem and we kind of all do that
(09:50):
together and what I'vediscovered is that what it does
is it activates people's gifts,like there's, there's people in
the workshop that will literallylike open up to ancient gifts
that they had.
There was this girl one timethat grabbed somebody's wrist
and all of a sudden realizedthat she could tell what their
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pulse was, what their heart ratewas, what all these internal
processes, and she had thisrecall of being a medical
intuitive in another life.
And she wasn't wooey, she waspretty straight laced when she
walked in the door.
She was, she was pretty, like,straight laced when she walked
in the door.
I've been through a process ofreally owning some very strange
things that I, that it just it.
(10:31):
I can't.
I can claim it in that it is me, but it's not like I went to
school for it, or it just comeswith.
You know, press play comes withall of this energy, you know.
So are you still doing the Liveyour Magic workshops?
(10:55):
I am.
I haven't done it for about ayear.
There's something else thatwants to come through it and I
kind of feel like it's adifferent frequency that I need
to get to before I do the nextone.
There's just it's like righthere and it's like OK, you're
almost there, there's some otherthings you got to step into
first.
I'm like OK, but it's differentthan most of my other creations
(11:19):
in that it bosses me around,you know.
It tells me where it's going,it tells me when and for how
many cookies, and I don't.
It's not something that I getto say.
I'm doing three Live yourMagics this year.
It's something it's, I believe,and my experience is is that
(11:40):
our creations have consciousness, I agree, and, just like some
authors, have characters thattalk to them.
Right, my Live your Magic isvery.
I have an interestingrelationship through it.
I co-create with it very much.
It's my co-facilitator and ittells me, it really oftentimes
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is driven by pieces of land,areas that need energy and that
have an energy to contribute toit.
Joya (12:26):
That makes complete sense to me resonance, that
vibrational frequency ofstepping into that liminal space
, where you're in that space ofmagic, and that just being in
that environment changes yousomehow.
Well, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
So that would is live yourmagic.
And what's the word?
What's what?
It's something's dropping inand I'm like slow down in my
mind.
I'm slow down so I canarticulate it.
I'm seeing, um, uh, is like uh,a gift, a package being
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delivered to you.
It's like from the universe.
That's like here, this is yours, this is yours to take it, it's
not yours to own, it's yours tobring it to manifestation on
the planet, but it is the bossof you and I totally get that.
And I'm curious what the nextlevel of it will be.
Do you have any kind ofinklings?
Megan (13:13):
I don't know if this is quite the right language, but it
doesn't want to be a workshop,it wants to be an event.
Joya (13:21):
Yes and yeah, because I'm feeling like this is the year of
experience.
It's like no more talking aboutthings, no more explaining
things, no more books aboutthings.
It's time to like bite into theapple.
You don't need to read aboutthe apple, don't need to talk
about the apple, don't need tostudy the apple.
You just got to pick up theapple and take a bite.
Megan (13:39):
Yeah.
Joya (13:40):
And see what's there for you.
Megan (13:43):
And that's very much like some kind of a birthing into
this deeper embodiment thatoccurs and again, I cannot put
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even an outline for this.
There's some signature event,there's signature processes a
couple that I have that Ioftentimes do not every time and
they change depending on thegroup, and that's part of it is
that I'm delivering the messagefor that specific group, I'm
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being the channel for whateverthat group needs to bring forth.
So there's, I literally channelfor three days, like other than
those signature processes.
So I'm not even in charge ofwhat I say.
I totally get it.
It's just coming through, youknow.
Joya (14:53):
Yeah.
Have you always been like thissince you were a child?
Have you always been divinelyconnected and highly intuitive,
or is this something thatdeveloped over time?
Megan (15:02):
Well, it's interesting because I think part of that
trust conversation we werehaving that I really broke trust
with that at some part, justgoing through all the trauma,
drama of childhood that some ofus go through, and I had to
reclaim that at some pointbecause I got very, very
disconnected from it.
But my older siblings describeme as like a little Buddha as a
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kid, just like you said, justobserving what was happening in
the family, right?
So I do think I came that way,but I had to.
I had to, I had to find itagain.
I got.
I got myself disconnected fromit.
Joya (15:44):
Yeah, as most of us do, who come in with these gifts,
that they get disconnected andthen it becomes the game of
finding them again and learningto trust yourself A little hide
and seek inside of you.
Yeah, Megan, you said somethingin the beginning too that
self-trust and redeveloping theself-trust in order to step into
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this beautiful gift ofchanneling and being present
with what is and knowing justthe right thing to say, like
you're so good at meeting peopleright where they are.
You said something aboutthawing out the layers of the
heart and moving back into theheart.
What role do you think theheart plays in being your
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liberated, truest, mostauthentic self you could be?
Megan (16:36):
That's a beautiful question, because I think that
if you would have even asked mea year ago, like kind of what,
what I thought my message wasfor the world, it would have
been somewhere in theneighborhood of opening
possibility, right, I would.
I'm starting to think that mygig is love, you know, and I
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just have had a lot of woundingaround that and I set up my
particular circumstance in lifeto have that sort of torn at my
birth.
So I've been coming back to, Ifeel like I put a lot of
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protections around my heart.
Also, I think a lot ofsensitives do, like this world
is kind of messy and difficultand harsh when you're super
sensitive, right.
So for me, the heart, I think,holds the seat of our desire,
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which desire holds the seeds ofour purpose, of why we're here.
I feel that the heart knows thefuture, you know, and what and
I essentially, like if I were tosay what I thought the role was
it's the intermediary betweenspirit and the physical
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dimension.
It's because, like, we can getreally caught in 3D, right, and
like, oh, what's going to happen, you know, or I see a lot of
spiritual people like kind ofnot being in the body.
body, yes, it's the body yeah,but I think the heart is such a
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beautiful bridge of spirit andbody and and and mind.
Actually I think it's, I thinkit's the true compass of like if
, if we can listen to our heart,it'll tell us where we need to
go and what's next.
And it's almost it's so funnybecause I've spent 59 years
protecting myself, but it'sactually the very safest place
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to be is in an open heart.
Joya (18:49):
You know, when we have our hearts get hardened like that
and protecting the heart and Iknow for me it sent me straight
up here Shut down the heart, goto the mind, operate from the
mind, use your logic, use yourreason and get shit done, yeah.
Megan (19:08):
Yep, totally.
And I had a very mental family.
I had my older siblings where alot of them had a very genius
IQ like Mensa type level of themhad a very like genius IQ like
Mensa type level.
And I actually did a medicinejourney a few years ago where I
literally relived the moment asa child where I was like, okay,
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if I start talking, I'm going toleave this place of being.
I have a choice to join them inthe mental world because in
order to survive in my family,you had to be very mentally
sharp.
My father had his PhD ineducation.
Education was huge andintellect was everything.
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Hey, like, if I'm going to jointhese people, I'm going to lose
a piece of this, I'm going tolose a piece of my being,
somehow, like I could see thatit was that I literally had this
moment of do I join them or not?
But I was taken back throughthat moment of how, language,
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kind of partitions, the being ohmy gosh, yes, it does.
Joya (20:20):
And you know, oh my gosh.
Okay, I'm getting very excitedabout that because I've always
been such a word nerd andlanguage is so important to me
and I was in a meditationrecently, as I'm going through
my own unfolding and my ownheart thawing process of having
my heart just opening more, andopening more and opening more,
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that I came into this meditationwhere I was like in the void
and this thought dropped in thatwas like this is who you are.
I was in this feeling of thevoid and it wasn't an empty void
by any stretch of theimagination.
It was full of life andexpansiveness and so much love.
And then this thought droppedin that said this is who you are
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, without the labels of who youthink you are.
Megan (21:10):
That's delicious.
You got a taste of you.
Joya (21:14):
And it opened up my heart.
How is the heart a portal?
What's your experience withthat?
Megan (21:18):
How is the heart a portal ?
What's your experience withthat?
Hmm, hmm, well, I think it'sagain like you said it, it goes.
It's the language of the heart,is energy, it's consciousness,
it's not mind Right.
And to me, if I'm connectedwith the heart, I'm connected to
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the entire universe.
Like you can be in all placesat once.
Joya (21:48):
Yeah, it's like a quantum instrument inside of us.
Megan (21:51):
Yeah, and I think it's interesting that you know, in
the last decade they've come outwith research that the heart
has more neurons right in thebrain.
Of course this is actuallycommand central and like I think
so much of the destruction hascome from this being command
central.
Yes, yes, gotta be like alittle flippy flip, but I just,
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I just have this knowing that myheart is way more credible
about the possibilities of myfuture than any part of my brain
or psyche.
Right, my heart is like go here, do this.
Everything good comes from thatright.
Like, oh, that looks cool.
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Well, that doesn't make anysense.
Oh, probably should go in thatdirection if that doesn't make
any sense.
But it lights my heart up, youknow, and I think people spend
too much time trying torationalize and justify what the
heart wants or what the heartknows, and then we just take
longer and it's just harder toget where we're going.
Joya (23:01):
Do you feel like, when we activate our heart portal and we
still use our mind, of course,we still use our personality, we
still use our ego, but we useit in service of something
greater than ourselves.
And do you feel like, when youactivate your heart center again
, that you really activate yourhidden, dormant, latent gifts
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that are lying inside of you,like your ability to channel the
different clear senses that cancome on board?
Do you think that those twothings are connected?
Megan (23:32):
Absolutely the last couple months that I've been
really practicing.
Practicing like, coming in andyou know, and, and sometimes it
looks like standing there in theface of something that's hard
or harsh and staying open.
Sometimes it's just from hiheart how you doing today, like,
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music, different ways, but I'mvery intentional about like and
and asking you know, I call uh,I call the universe G, so like,
because it kind of covers likegrace, gratitude the big G, the
big G like I'm like G, like Idon't know how to open this back
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up.
This is a big, this is a big one, and it I feel like it's.
I think that in the past, Ithink that I have the heart has
been disconnected from otherparts of me, and so sometimes
it's gotten me in trouble in acertain way.
But the opposite is also truewhat I'm connected to my
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intellect and not my heart.
But there's something about um,like if I and and like as we're
talking, I'm starting to thisis this is sort of coming in.
Which is that like.
I think that part of what Liveyour Magic is waiting for is a
more full access to heart,because magic can be grounded
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and balanced in a different waywhen the heart's online.
So people are using magic thatare disconnected from heart,
from heart.
That's when it can go sideways,or what we hear about like dark
magic or magic blowing up inpeople's faces and stuff like
that.
I think that for me, it's likeeverything that's grounded in
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the heart is like gettingconnected to like a supernova
engine, like it's turning.
It can turn on and up andground these higher frequencies,
because some of our capacitieshave such a high frequency that
we haven't been able to embodythem fully yet.
Frequency energy it also helpsme trust the magic that's coming
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forward, because I know that ifit's running through love and
it's going to serve, it's notgoing to do any harm, and so I
think that's also part oflearning how to trust my magic
is letting it run through theheart, letting the heart be the
engine for it.
But yeah, I feel like there'shealing capacities in the heart
that are beyond anything thatwe've quantified.
Joya (26:28):
What was your journey to thawing out your heart, from
going from that highlyintellectual creator to being a
more heart centered creator?
Are you still on that journey?
Megan (26:40):
obviously you said you were, so yeah, and I'm I, I
think it's infinite, I think ourheart, I think like it's, it's,
like it's a portal to placesand spaces and I think I will
always be on the journey, youknow and um, but what led me
your question and what led me toit?
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Well, like, I just fucked abunch of shit up, you know, like
you did the, you did the fopomethod of figuring life out.
Yep, I did yeah, and I I chosesome things that created a lot
of pain for me and a lot ofplaces where I justified
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shutting down, where I justifiedlike fuck it, you know.
But in the healing process Idon't know when it was, but I
was like I want to feel loveagain.
Living in the intellect is likebeing a four-year-old given
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knives to play with Jugglingknives.
Being in the intellect withoutconnection to the heart is kind
of a dangerous place to be.
Like connection to the heart iskind of a dangerous place to be
.
I think that even when I'm shutdown, people would say that they
feel love for me, that theyfeel even when I'm shut down,
they feel like maybe they havemore of an unconditional love
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experience with me than anybodythey have ever met.
So even when I think I'mmanaging it well, it's not
really being managed that well,because it's who I am and I just
noticed that it started like itjust it just given me some kind
of juice that I wasn't gettingin any other way, and I've been
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uncovering, like in this process, like basically I created a
scenario where my heart wouldget broken upon my birth, you
know, and all the stuff sinceand all the recreations out of
that, since were really aboutreclaiming that, honoring that
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and opening up to that magic,because the heart is.
I think the heart is the mostmagic magic of all.
Joya (29:05):
It's so interesting how we shut it down too, and then how
it's oh my gosh, it takes somuch for us to open it back up
again.
And I'm wondering does it haveto take so much for us to open
it back up again?
There a shortcut if you canbreak your heart closed, can you
break your heart open?
Megan (29:23):
yeah, yeah, I like that, joya, I like that, yeah, because
I I do feel it was interesting.
Um, on christmas eve, I thinkthere's a real magic around, uh,
the holidays, like it didn'tmatter whether you're Christian
or whatever.
There's like some kind ofenergy that I feel, and it's not
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religious in nature, it's justlike a zing.
In Christmas Eve, I said, okay,gee, I said I'm going to ask
straight up I want an open heartfor Christmas.
That's what I'm asking forChristmas.
I want to open my heart.
And within like an hour, Icreated this whole heartbreaking
experience.
I'm like, really, are you sureyou know?
(30:09):
Well, I asked, didn't I?
But yes, that was actuallytruthfully, it was a breaking
open.
Joya (30:18):
Sometimes breaking apart is breaking open, right?
Megan (30:22):
Yeah, tell us about that messy process, the breaking open
process, the breaking openprocess.
I received a message that was.
It was asking me there's a.
One of my favorite songs is Ithink it's Steve Winwood, I'm
(30:44):
not sure it's called Higher Love, and there's a newer version
that's very, very spiritual andlike, oh like.
It's very cool.
I haven't liked any of theremixes until this one and I
actually like it better becauseit's actually hitting the
frequency of what I think HigherLum is.
But what I felt like happenedbecause it felt like the hardest
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news.
But I actually was asking me tolove outside of possession of
like what I think somebodyshould do or how they should
return it or in what way theyshould reciprocate my love,
because I think in this realitywe have love and possession
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mixed up.
Joya (31:32):
Oh yeah, I love this.
I love that.
It's mine, it's my preference.
It's like you mistakepreference for love, yeah.
Megan (31:40):
Yeah, and I think that really pain doesn't have
anything to do with love.
I think we've also connectedthat up.
I think love is an energy and afrequency that's always
available under allcircumstances, like I know
because I've had that experience.
Right, well, this should bereally shitty, but all I can
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feel is love right now,interesting, right, and so.
But I think why we shut back toyour question about how can we
make it easier to open up, Ithink it's learning how to under
, like really getting that, likethe pain.
Pain is pain and love is love,but we collapse them, and in
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that collapsing is when we shutdown.
Oh, it's painful to love, it'shard to love.
Well, actually, mostly what'shappening is that love isn't
matching our pictures, but it'snot supposed to.
Like there was no contract madethat love would meet our
pictures.
You know, like I thought Isigned something that you know,
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love is supposed to be prettyand horns and all the things.
Happy, happy, happy, yeah, yeah, I just I feel like there I was
called to a higher love throughthat moment of, oh, you're
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going to love me different, youknow, and so, and I'm not, I
don't feel like I've hit thathigher love stride yet you know,
but I know that that was ananswer to my prayer of, like I
want to live open hearted.
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And open hearted doesn't meanif everything fits my pictures
and everything works out rightand everybody does what I want
them to do.
Joya (33:39):
I always say gee, gee answers prayers in ways you
understand, not ways you want.
That's what I always say.
I'm like, oh, I understandexactly what this is.
I know for me for a long timeit was, you know, my prayer to
have an open heart, my prayer toheal this or release that, that
what would come up is what's inthe way of that.
It's like, okay, well, here itis.
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We're going to make it bigger,worse, stronger, so that you
can't miss it.
Now I try to choose not to haveto learn my lessons that way.
Megan (34:15):
And you know something that I have seen in myself and
this has actually helped me letgo of a lot of judgment of, like
, the size of the messes I make.
I always say you can tell thecaliber of person by the size of
the mess they make.
Because if you've got a lot ofenergy flowing through you, if
you're like a real live circuit,then if you point that thing
just a little bit off, you'regoing to create a flood, you're
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going to create troubles.
If you're just a little dripand you're off, it's not a
problem.
But if you're big energy, it'slike you create big greatness
but you also create big messes.
But that's actually how welearn faster A water finds the
fastest path to the bottom ofthe mountain, it'll jump off
cliffs.
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It will find the fastest, noteasiest.
The fastest path will find thefastest, not easiest the fastest
path.
And I think those of us whosigned up to be sort of the
conscious leaders at this time,I feel like we wanted to move as
fast as possible into thatconsciousness, which meant
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jumping off some cliffs, whichmeant blowing up some stuff,
because that was the fastest waythat we could get to that next
level, you know, and so I justhave really come to really love
my big play and all of the waysthat in you know, it lights
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people up and changes the worldand blow shit up.
But it's all of it, you know,and but that's.
I think that's part of that.
Mess thing is that we're asconscious beings, we're choosing
things that will give us themost juice, the fastest.
Joya (35:57):
Oh, I love that and, oh my gosh, I have made some really
big messes being my little livewire self out there making stuff
happen that didn't need to behappening.
But I also have like and I lovethis conversation because you
just helped me to have thiswhole like idea around like if
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life is your art right, and I'man artist, yes, then my life is
my art and therefore there areno mistakes.
It's all just lessons andlearning.
Megan (36:30):
My friend's father was an artist out of Princeton and one
of the things he taught meabout art he says, megan, he
says you know it distinguisheslike really, really high quality
art.
And he said it's actually notthe perfection, it's the
specific mistake that the artistmakes in the work, the way that
they make the.
(36:50):
And mistake isn't quite right,but in terms of what good art is
right, like that, the artiststhat don't do it quite right,
it's that becomes kind of theirsignature Right.
And I have, I've always, I'vealways remembered that is like
it's it.
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You know, it's part of our work.
Of art is the mess we make.
Joya (37:32):
And I was trying to look up just now.
I'm like, oh my gosh, there's afamous artist and I can't think
of who it was.
Megan (37:40):
And he was having his piece installed in a museum and
they dropped.
Able to get to this point?
Is our sense of humor Like, ifyou can't laugh at the shit,
like you're effed man, it's likeit's too big and gnarly this
tubular we're in.
Joya (37:57):
you know, otherwise I won't be able to survive what
will be piled on me from such ayoung age Coming into the broken
heart, just like you said, likethe minute at birth, broken,
yeah, yeah.
And I feel like a lot of thelightworkers and yeah, way
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showers, lightworkers, peoplewho know people like, yeah, you
feel that right.
You just know you always feellike you're here for something
more, you're here for somethingbigger.
That has always just kind ofpulled you along.
Megan (38:30):
Yeah, and I think that's part of like being true to
yourself and developing trust isstarting to really follow those
poles, is starting to reallyfollow those poles and like,
even when they don't make sense,even when sometimes those poles
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actually create some big mess,but you needed to do that to get
to that next thing.
You know, and like I thinkthat's the other thing is that
people, like they have anintuition about something and it
doesn't work out how theirbrain thinks it's supposed to go
.
Like I had an intuition to dothat and everything went to hell
.
Well, probably becauseeverything was supposed to go to
hell and that was like thefastest way for you to get to
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that other place, you know.
And so it's like I think it'sreally important to find ways to
get out of our interestingpoints of view about how we
think it's supposed to go.
Joya (39:26):
Less rigidity, more flexibility.
Be like water.
I mean, you said I just lovethat analogy be like water, and
water that stays put getsstagnant and mossy it gets
mosquitoes.
So we don't want to be stagnantwater, We'll be flowing water.
It stinks too.
Megan, what do you have comingup?
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Do you have any kind ofprograms?
Or I know you have your live,your magic, working its magic on
you, but what do you have goingon?
Or your coaching abilities?
Where can people find you?
Because you're just soincredible.
Megan (40:03):
Thank you, love.
Well, people can go to mywebsite.
It's just my name,megansilitocom.
I'll spell that in a sec, butright now I'm running my new
signature group coaching calledHigh Frequency Performance
Academy.
Joya (40:18):
By the way, pause, I love that name.
Thank you so much thank you.
Megan (40:26):
Well, I realized that that's who I work with.
I work with sensitive and andgetting to what is high
performance.
For us, like the, I would saythat traditional coaching is
like a different kind of highperformance Raw, raw, go, go,
push, push, all that.
But we're actually, I think,neurodivergence people who are
(40:49):
more energetically sensitive.
Our way to that is very, verydifferent and there's really
nothing out there that talksabout that.
Because if I, when I try tocreate something based on the
formula that's mostly beingtaught, I just Same, uh-huh,
yeah, and at the end of the day,you and I know it's like when
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my frequency is in resonancewith that which I want or I am
creating, then that's when it'soccurring and it's more of an
energy game than a push forstructure game and it also
requires a development of thenervous system in a different
(41:35):
way.
So a lot of people are talkingabout nervous system reset.
Because so a lot of people aretalking about nervous system
reset and that's actually juststep one, like that's just the
basics of getting regulated.
Then we have to developresiliency and then we have to
create robustness, because theenergy and frequency that I'm
(41:57):
here to bring, that you're hereto bring in some ways has been
beyond what our bodies couldflow, Because I don't know if
you've had this, but like so totake this into layman's terms,
like boom and bust, where, likeI'll let something really big
come through and then I'll belike meh, pfft, oh, yes, oh,
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crap out for like three monthsand not kind of.
I mean, I'm still doing myclients and stuff, but I'm not
able to keep going.
And I realized that that wasactually a function of the
dysregulation that I was in, butthat it actually I actually had
to create my nervous system tobe able to run the higher
frequencies so that I couldactually sustain it and not like
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sort of crap out after.
And I don't think that it wasanything's been wrong, it's just
that it hasn't been availableuntil now.
Right, I feel like we did whatwe had to do while we could do
it.
Joya (43:02):
Yeah, and you're exactly right.
If you think about everything,everything is energy.
We are conduits of energy,we're running energy through our
system all the time.
You know, I'm thinking likewhen you plug something in.
If I were to go plug somethingthat needs a 220 volt wattage
into my 60 watt plug, it's goingto blow up.
And the same is exactly true ofus.
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And that's why, when we'reasking for things like open my
heart, help me to step into mypurpose, help me to show up how
I'm meant to be, showing up thatthe things you're doing that
are not in alignment with thatare going to show up first, so
that you can change yourbehavior.
But then, you're exactly right,you have to prepare your
nervous system to be able tohandle that new wattage, that
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new vibration of frequencythat's coming through you, to be
your new homeostasis.
Megan (43:52):
Yes, yeah, and I've used that exact metaphor.
It's like if we put all thetechnology that we run through
our houses now through a housefrom the 1940s, it would blow it
up.
And that's, I think, what a lotof us have been doing is that
we've been accessing these highvoltage frequencies but our
bodies haven't been ready forthem entirely.
(44:13):
Like we're pulling them throughas much as we can for as long
as we can, but it's time.
I think it's time to be able tolive that high vibe.
It's time to be able to flowthat big frequency and continue
the increase of the frequency.
Not like you know, and so I'm.
That's really the cracks ofwhere my work's been going over
(44:37):
this last year.
I've been doing a lot of workaround nervous system reset and
then the resiliency, and thenthe High Frequency Performance.
Academy is about actuallycreating your system at a level
that it can run those highfrequencies through it
consistently and not force andpush things and honor the
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neurodivergent self that we are,that we actually do and can
facilitate multidimensionalthings at once.
Doing one thing at a time, onestep at a time, is actually the
best thing for us.
It actually slows us down, butwe've been taught our whole
lives.
This is how you do now.
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You need to do one thing untilit's done.
You know it's like um no, thatdoesn't work.
Joya (45:29):
I will be so bored I will not finish it.
Megan (45:33):
Right, right, yeah.
So that's one big thing thatI'm playing with and and I'm
bringing more things out.
I've got a in-person retreatcoming out in May, a high-flying
in-person retreat, where we'regoing to be doing a lot of stuff
to turn the system on, to beable to run those higher
energies through it.
(45:53):
I have a program coming up inabout a month called Quest, and
it's a program I've done before,but I am going to bring some
live components into it.
But it's a gamified creationprogram where you try on
different characters as youcreate.
Whatever it is that you'recreating.
(46:14):
So it's based on the hero'sjourney, and so every day you
quest, you go on a quest fromPeter Pan.
How would Peter Pan create this?
How would a billionaire look atthis?
Because one of the things thatI find is that people try to
create from the same energy thatthey always create from.
(46:35):
Okay, let's get out the visionboard.
There's nothing wrong with that, but it's like you're actually
in your personality too much,and so the ideas that you have
are kind of the stuff you'vealready done and you can't
create something new doingsomething you've already done in
that way, and so it's a way toaccess different frequencies.
(46:56):
It's a way to access differentideas and consciousness, and I
just love character play anyway.
So in this program you quest asyourself sometimes and as these
different characters and youfollow, you learn how to develop
your intuition with followingthe energy.
(47:16):
I call it G-Winks, so like Icall it winks and wanks, so it's
kind of I think that theuniverse is the biggest like
hotter, colder game on theplanet.
So that's coming up and Iactually have a gift for your
group called.
It's a little training that Idid called Create Like a Ninja,
(47:37):
and so it's just an example ofcreating in a different mind
frame and a set of frame.
But also because anything thatyou admire it's reflecting back
some of your capacities, it'sreflecting back things you have
inside.
So it's this particulartraining, because I have
(48:00):
trainings on looking andactivating gifts of all kinds of
different types of archetypes,I would say.
But this one is getting peoplein touch with their ninja.
There's some of their stealthenergies.
Joya (48:17):
Wow, you are just such a well neurodivergent.
Oh, and, have you heard thisterm?
I just discovered this termbecause somebody used it to
describe me and I was like, ohmy gosh, I didn't know there was
a word.
It's called multi-potentialite.
Multi-potentialite is a personwho can step in and do many
things super well.
(48:38):
So these are not people who arein a box just like you said.
We're not step one, step two,step three like we.
We came in a box and we torethat shit up and we're not even
in a box anymore.
It's, yeah, it's like what box,what box?
So I'm just so grateful thatyou're out there doing this work
and and really, as you yourself, this being this person that
(49:02):
you're coaching others whodesperately need you and to be
taught and told that whatthey're doing is perfectly okay.
You can be a high performanceindividual, you can be highly
successful individual, and itdoesn't have to look like how
everybody else does it.
Megan (49:20):
I feel to share this.
I worked with this guy in thelast year and a half.
He is an accountant but he'sactually an energy mage and so
when we turned that on in him,it's crazy he literally went
from hourly toFO to like heliterally generated $220,000
(49:46):
extra in that year that I wasworking with him because he went
to his right operating system.
People who are very magical,who have really kind of
condensed themselves Like wetalked about, like it's not safe
(50:09):
.
I'm going to go up into my headand I'm going to get shit done
and I'm going to do the step bystep, and it's actually not
where our greatest gifts lie.
It's in this like bigger energythat's chaotic and a little bit
well, it is uncontrollable.
Really, it's not something youcan control, but how is it ever
fun?
Joya (50:23):
Oh my gosh, Megan, you are just so utterly delightful
Everybody listening.
Please go visit Megan's website.
You definitely have to go checkout what she has going on.
I myself might look intojoining the High Performance
Frequency Academy, becausethat's where I'm at and it's
beautiful and I love beingaround other people who are on
(50:44):
that same frequency.
It's just different.
It's just different.
Megan (50:49):
I love you so much.
You're such a kindred soul tome and I think our priority for
joy is something that I reallyconnect with you around, because
I'm just I you light me up,like I'm normally the one
lighting a root, like lightingspace up right, like I think you
(51:10):
probably know what I'm talkingabout, but like you're like I
get so much back from you, I'mlike, oh yeah, go, go, go, more,
more, more, more light, morejoy.
Joya (51:23):
And the same is true of you.
So maybe that's got to be whatit is.
It's like, oh, I could get myfiddle of joy and oh, yeah, we
have so much fun and that's,yeah, I follow my joy.
That's kind of my.
My code for them I'm going theright way is follow my joy.
Well, thank you, megan.
I so loved this conversation.
You're just such a one of myfavorite people and I love you
too, and I can't wait to see you, hopefully soon.
(51:44):
Okay, thank you so much.
Thank you, bye-bye, bye.
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