March 11, 2025 • 37 mins
"What would happen if you finally released that beach ball you've been holding underwater for decades?"
Carrie's journey of liberation began at age 54 when she finally acknowledged a profound truth: she had been living someone else's life. After decades in corporate America, drinking a bottle of wine nightly to numb her unhappiness, watching her marriage crumble, and seeing her children struggle with serious health challenges, she made the terrifying decision to walk away from it all—including a business where she had invested her entire life savings.
This conversation delves deep into what happens when we finally give ourselves permission to be who we truly are. Carrie shares the moment she realized her 16-year-old self's artistic dreams had been crushed by well-meaning but limiting parental advice, and how that single conversation shaped decades of her choices. Using the powerful metaphor of an "unlived life as a beach ball underwater," she explains how suppressed dreams eventually create unbearable pressure until we must choose: continue suffering or embrace authentic living.
For anyone feeling trapped in a life that doesn't reflect their true desires, this conversation offers both practical guidance and spiritual wisdom. Carrie's story proves it's never too late to reclaim your authentic self, and that when you finally say "yes" to your deepest calling, the universe begins conspiring to support your journey.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Carrie, thank you so much for joining me on.
We Woke Up Like this today.
I'm so excited to have you, andwe're going to kick off this
conversation by asking you whatdoes liberation mean to you and
why is this a topic that youwere like?
Yes, I want to get on yourpodcast and have a conversation
around this.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, joya, honestly, it started with me stepping
into my freedom and myliberation.
I was under such a constraint Iguess the word is with other
people's opinions, ideas,approvals I didn't have my own
thought, I couldn't even thinkmy own thought.
And then, growing up in afamily that was supportive but
(00:47):
wanted me to follow the normalpatterns, the normal like air
quote patterns of life, I justalways felt very contracted,
very constricted, veryconstrained and felt like I had
to put everything into a box andmake it look like what it
should look like and do what Ishould do.
And once I recognized that, Ihave a brain, I have my own
(01:09):
thoughts, I have my own dreams,I have my own visions and I
stepped out of that lane that Iwas in.
That's when liberation happened, that's when life happened,
that's when I blossomed and Iopened myself up to a world of
opportunity and possibility thatI didn't even know existed.
I thought the only opportunityand possibility was what other
people were telling me that Ishould be doing.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
How old were you when you had this epiphany and you
decided to take control of yourown life and your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It was.
I was 54 years old.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, Wow, that's amazing.
So did you.
That must have shaken up, orshook up your family, your, your
married, your spouse.
Like what was that?
Like when you just all of asudden were like I'm Carrie, it
was.
It was really quite a.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
it was, quite it was liberation for everyone.
Quite, quite honestly, you know, I was living in contraction
the entire time.
I mean my I, you know, andeverybody had not I shouldn't
say everybody, but I had a timein my life when I knew that
things were not the way theywere supposed to be.
This was not what I, the lifethat I wanted to live, you know
(02:14):
I was.
My son had just suffered frommajor depression and and was
having epileptic seizures.
My daughter was riddled withanxiety at college.
My marriage was crumbling.
I hated I don't even like to usethat word, but I hated the life
that I was living, the careerthat I had.
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I was drinking a bottle of wineevery night just to drown out
all the things that werehappening in my life.
And so when I did step into whoI really am and really start
living the true, authentic selfof Carrie, everything changed
for the better.
It was such an amazingexperience to finally be free of
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all those things that werecausing so many awful things
happening.
And so now you know now I meanI we just celebrated our 35th
wedding anniversary.
My, my son, is married to thelove of his life and his health
is wonderful.
My daughter just gave us oursecond grandbaby and she's doing
wonderful.
My career is exploded and I'mso blessed and honored to be on
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this journey with other womenand um.
But the opportunities, thepossibilities opened up for me
and my awareness was that, yes,I can be who I really am.
Listen to that true, authenticself inside of me.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Were there conscious thoughts that you were just
feeling like I'm not happy?
Was it more energetic that wasdriving you, that drove you to
this point where you're like Ihave to change what's happening
here?
I think it was a little ofeverything quite honestly over
(03:55):
time, over time.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, you know I.
I mean, I can remember when Iwas and I share this often but
when I was 16 years old, sittingat the dinner table getting
ready to go to college, and mydad said what do you want to do
when you grow up?
And I said I want to have animpact in this world.
I want to be able to.
You know, I was very much intomixed media arts.
(04:16):
I want to be an artist and Iwant to have an impact.
And my dad said but you're notgoing to make a lot of money
doing that, carrie, right, andso it so.
So unlived life right, itstarted, I started to push it
down and what happens is unlivedlife is kind of like a beach
ball underwater it doesn't staythere Such a perfect analogy.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, that pressure starts to build in your own life
, right?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yes, and, and I can remember, you know, fast forward
, you know several years, but Ican remember, you know, driving
back to school to take somethingto my children that they had
left at home for about the fifthtime in a week.
And I can remember pulling overthe side of the road and saying
what am I doing here?
I don't even know who I am.
(05:03):
I'm now as much as I love mychildren.
They are running my life.
I don't know who I am here,right, and so it was just, it
was a gradual thing.
But then, finally, you know, Icame to a point in my life where
I was like, listen, I, I have,there's something more for me
here, you know, there'ssomething more than than just
being somebody else's someone orlistening to what other people
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are telling me that I should bedoing.
And it came to a head.
I was in corporate America.
I was from the outside I lookedlike I was having success, but
on the inside I was absolutelyjust dying.
And there was a pivotal momentwhen I had invested our entire
life savings in a business thatI thought was going to be the
next greatest thing for me,because I was always trying to
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fit a square peg into a roundhole and there was just a moment
in time where I said I'm notdoing this anymore.
I'm going after what Carriewants, what Carrie needs, what
Carrie is.
And here I am and it's broughtme to where I am today and I
absolutely love me.
I love my life, I love thefreedom that I have, I love the
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clients that I support.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Oh, making an impact in the world.
Yes, yes, yeah, 16 year oldCarrie is so proud of you.
She's like, yes, we did it.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's right, and and this year I have cleared space
in my office and I'm going backto art Yay.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Gosh good for you.
That feels so good.
It really I'm just, I'mthrilled.
Oh my gosh, keri, I love thatfor you.
I'm super curious about you.
Know, you had such anestablished life, I mean,
investing everything in thisother business, and now you're
doing this other business.
What were were the like forwomen listening who are and I
know that so many women relateto this because, especially, you
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know, when we're younger, thisis such a common story that I
hear too with you know, well,that's great that you want to do
that, but that's not going tomake you a lot of money, or
that's great that you want to dothat, but that's not the path
that we set out for you.
And then lots of women take thispath and then they get married,
and then they have children,and then they have a career and
they're doing all these thingsthat they do get lost in there
(07:11):
and it does build up as like afeeling of pressure.
So what was that like for you?
What were your, you know, likegoing back to women who are
listening, when you decided,like this is that's it, I just
cannot, I cannot do this anymore.
What?
What were the steps that youtook to begin to even discover?
Did you know what you wanted todo next, or how did you go
about discovering what it wasthat you even wanted to do in
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the first place?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, I, first of all , I want to, I want to just say
that you know, it was more aboutmy career.
You know, I love.
I love being a mother, I lovebeing a wife.
You know that that wasabsolutely part of my, my dream
and my plan, you know, even as a16 year old girl, right, but it
was more of my expression of me.
You know, with my children Iwas very authentic, you know.
(07:57):
I mean, I, I always supportedthem in doing what they wanted
to do, and I and I didn't.
I didn't follow the patternsthat had happened in my family.
I wanted them to go and do andbe and have and give and
whatever, whatever they wouldlove, what, what really happened
was this?
The corporate structure.
Right, the corporate structurereally was.
(08:18):
You know, my dad, when we weresitting there having dinner that
night and he said, what do youwant to do with your life?
And I said I, you know, wantedto make an impact.
I want to do smart and and andhe, he, you know, out of love
and protection, he said to meCarrie, you're not going to make
a lot of money doing that, butreally, julia, what I heard him
say was you'll never havesuccess, going after your dream.
(08:39):
And so I made that decisionwhen I was 16 years old, that my
dream wasn't worth it, that itwasn't worthy of being fully
expressed.
What happened over time?
Like that beach ball, Icontinued to push life down,
continued to push life down,listening to the opinion and
approval of other people, untilI reached a point in my life
where I started talking to otherwomen and realizing they've
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done the same thing.
They're looking for somethingmore.
There's something more outthere in life that's calling
them, and I decided to take astand for them.
But in reality, I was taking astand for me, right, and I would
poke my head up.
You know, it was kind of likepoking my head up out of a
foxhole and looking around andwondering is there anybody else
out there?
And so what that looked likewas when I walked away from my
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company that my husband and Iwere actually purchasing.
I invested our entire lifesavings into this company that I
thought was going to be.
Listen to everybody else tellme it was a wonderful experience
, you know, wonderful thing.
And I followed the shiny bouncyball when I walked away.
You know, it was super scary.
I mean, I didn't know if I wasgoing to get my money back.
(09:46):
I didn't know if my husband wasgoing to divorce me at that
moment, because I made adecision pretty much in the
moment that I was leaving, wow,and I didn't know what it was
going to look like.
I didn't know what my next stepwas.
I just knew that life wascalling me into something more.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
So when you said yes, is that when it just started
showing up for you it?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
did.
It did Because what I know forsure is, when you make a
decision, the universe starts toconspire with you and decision
that you make Right.
And so I knew that there wassomething more calling me.
And so I just stand and youknow I was scared.
I was, you know.
I mean I think I cried myselfto sleep several nights because
(10:29):
I thought what my paradigms arestarting to get to me.
What did I do?
Oh, my gosh.
But I just knew that there wassomething more.
So what I started to do thenwas I researched, getting myself
a life coach, because I haddone therapy.
Therapy didn't really reallyhit the target for me I'm not
bashing it, but it just wasn'tfor me.
And I started looking for a lifecoach.
(10:50):
And you know, beautiful socialmedia, you're scrolling through
and all of a sudden you get allthese different things come up,
right, and something came upwith the Brave Thinking
Institute with Mary Morrissey,with the Brave Thinking
Institute, with Mary Morrissey,and then a friend of mine said,
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hey, you know, let's go down tothis conference in LA and and
check it out.
And I was kind of kicking andscreaming.
I'm like I'm really.
You know, that's not reallysomething I want to do right now
.
But, joya, it was like againthe universe was presenting
things to me that just Icouldn't resist.
I met Mary Morrissey in person.
I fell in love with her.
She's mentored me from day one,she's mentored by her
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personally and was asked to stepinto the coaching role.
Amazing, when I was, when I wasasked that question, it was
like um, the Phoenix rising fromthe ashes.
When the feet, when the phoenixis done with its life, it burns
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in fire, but then it risesagain out of, in, creates new
life, and I just felt like thisis it, this is this is what I've
been called to do.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And I had to go through all of those things to
get to where I am today and itgave you so much understanding
of the journey and women who areholding themselves back or
stuff or sitting on that beachball underwater, like I can't
let this come up, I can't letthis come up, that they.
I just love good coaches andMary Morrissey is just so
beautiful.
I didn't I actually didn't evenknow that you were a Mary
(12:26):
Morrissey coach, so that's why Ilove having these conversations
.
Yes, how long have you beencoaching with that organization
or on your own, obviously, buttrained and working with Mary?
Yeah, so March it'll be fiveyears.
Wow, that's amazing.
Congratulations, carrie.
That's huge.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Thank you.
Yeah, I'm really thrilled andit's been such a journey to get
here, but, you know, honestly,it's been the most beautiful,
looking back, that you know, Igot to experience all of that in
order to support my clientsmoving forward and I'm just so
honored honestly honored to beon this journey with women.
(13:02):
It's just incredible.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Well, yeah, and you can.
You know, I think that's soimportant to.
When you're working with acoach, I always look for, like,
does this person understand me?
Have they gone through life,Like they've actually lived life
and have actually made thosebig leaps and those big changes
themselves?
And you have.
So I think that is just so.
That's really really remarkable, and I just really commend you
(13:26):
on your courage to have.
I mean, that takes a lot ofcourage to do what you did,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yes, I mustered quite a bit, but you know there's
it's always scary whenever youstep into your greatness.
You know, and fear will alwaysbe a companion, and I didn't
know that at the time.
I knew that it was going to bescary.
I didn't know that I wasactually stepping into a greater
, freer, fuller expression ofwho I am.
At the time I just knew that Icouldn't do what I was doing
(13:51):
anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
So yeah, and you're still continuing to become freer
.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
We've never have arrived, right, you know, we
know that we're always growing,we're always learning, we're
always evolving and and yeah,and that's that's what I love
about life, right?
Is that there's always more tolearn.
There's always.
I was just down at DreamBuilder Live this weekend with
Mary and and the staff andconstantly, you know, honing my
skills but also growing my levelof awareness.
(14:17):
You know, there's just a deeperlevel and a deeper level.
And so, yeah, I'm just, I lovemy life.
In fact, I had a conversationwith Mary this weekend and I
said you know, mary, becauseshe's very much about you know,
a vision driven on life.
And I even said to her you know, I love my life so much I can't
see the next level vision.
And she looked me square in theface, joy, and she said then
(14:38):
you're not listening.
And I thought, ok, there I go,another layer of awareness right
, you know we get in thosesafety.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You know those safe spaces where we're like OK, I
like this, I've made it here now.
It's like resting on yourlaurels, right, it's like I've
made it to where I am now andthis is good, this is safe, I
don't, I don't feel anythingcalling me now, exactly, I'm
happy, I'm good.
But then there's so much more,as you know, it's like you get
called and called and called tomake a bigger impact.
(15:06):
If you're willing to say yes,then the universe is like hey,
there, she's gonna say yes, comeon, let's go.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Exactly, exactly, yeah, and I'm here and I and I
had an amazing awakening thisweekend on what my next level
vision is.
Do you care to share a?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
little bit about the awakening process.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, well, you know so.
So one of the things when Marysaid that to me, I really took
it to heart that I was notreceptive.
I was not being receptive, andso I just, I just made a pact
with myself that you know, I'mhere for me, I'm here, I'm here
to to, to you know, reallydefine and understand and
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receive what that next levelvision is for me.
And so I just, you know, thewhole weekend stood in grateful
expectation, knowing that it wascoming, that there was
something for me.
And I'll tell you, joya, youknow some people they get quiet
whispers.
I got a knock on the head.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Those are nice, because then you can't deny it.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
There's no way.
You cannot make this stuff up.
So I'm really, you know.
I want to take my spiritualityeven deeper.
I want to have a clear path andunderstand even deeper.
I want to have a clear path andunderstand, you know me on an
even deeper level, but also myphysicality.
(16:26):
You know I'm 59 years old.
I want you know there arelittle voices in my head saying
but you're too old and you'relosing your spark, and you know,
blah, blah, blah, blah, allthose things right.
So this weekend, jenniferJimenez, who is Mary's daughter,
she led us in a dance ofrelease and it just flooded my
body with little love bumps.
I don't know what it was, but Ijust felt so wonderful and I
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was a volunteer, so I also gotto be inside early and meet with
the staff and all that.
But anyhow, sunday morning wehad a prayer circle and all the
volunteers were in the circleand the staff and the faculty
put their hands on all of us andthey said a prayer over us.
I turned around and Jenniferwas the one that had her hand on
my back and something came overme.
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I just felt the spirit move meand I gave her a big hug and I
said I want to work with you, Iwant to know what you're doing
and I want to get more in touchwith my the wellbeing side of my
being.
You know the beingness and andand and.
She said when was the last she?
(17:31):
She said when was the last timethat you had that you went on a
retreat, carrie for you,Because I host my own retreats
and I started crying and I saidit's been a long time.
And she said it's time for youto fill your cup.
Yeah, and for you to fill yourcup and so that you can be a
conduit of love for your clients.
(17:53):
You know that you're basicallypracticing what you're preaching
.
I've been in a lot of kind ofpush, energy and masculine
energy in the last couple monthsand my business is growing and
it's wonderful and I love it.
But there's a both sides rightand and I kind of lost track of
that.
So so I signed up for herprogram and I'm moving forward
with her Healthy, vibrant Womenprogram and I'm really excited
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because there's a lot of partsto that that really interest me
and will support my clientsmoving forward.
It's absolutely level.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Thank you, thank you, yeah, I'm really excited.
I'm excited to work with herand so many other little little
synchronicities were happeningthat weekend around that that I
just I couldn't.
I just stepped in and said, yes, yeah, the door is clearly
opened, come on through, yeah, Ilove that.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And then you never know what's going to happen,
right?
It's like when you said yes toyour girlfriend to go down, to
go to California, and thenyou're like, oh my gosh, so
expanded.
And then now you say yes tothis and so expanded.
And I know the same is true forme to carry that within the
last year and a half it's beenso much about embodiment,
bringing it to the body, cominghome in the body, feeling in the
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body, living in your body, andthat's not easy work, especially
when we're so mental if we'revery mental people, which I am,
and I can hear you are too thatit makes it so hard to go in the
body.
And it's like the body, justlike my feminine side is like I
just want to flow and paint, gowith the flow, and my masculine
side is like we have stuff to do, exactly, exactly I get it.
(19:30):
Yeah, I just want to come inmore in harmony, you know I want
in an alignment with that andyes and I because I know we have
both sides and I want to I wantto really, you know, just just
be with that and be in alignmentwith that and be able to be in
flow with what is coming andwhat I get to do and not have to
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have it be such push energy,you know so yeah, and I know
that that will happen for you,because that's so the energy I
feel that's happening is allabout that unit, that divine
union that happens inside of uswith our own toxic masculine
push energy definitely the pushenergy and then the divine
feminine that can be toxicfemininity energy, that that's
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running us inside of ourselves,that we're not even aware that
these patterns are running us,and so when you do unify those
it's, it'll be so powerful foryou, of course, and then boom
for your clients.
I can't even imagine what'sgoing to happen with what you'll
bring forward for the womenthat you work with.
Do you work with women?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yes, I have worked with some men in the past.
I have a client that's a man,that's a gentleman, right now.
Yeah, you know it's it's.
If they're in touch with theirfeminine side, then typically
you know they're it's, they'reopen to it.
It's not something that Ireally am going to pursue
Because, quite frankly, it's acall out to men to step up and
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become coaches and it's a callout to men to step up and become
coaches.
Right, like we need more mencoaches.
Yeah, serve to have really goodcoaches.
So you know, I've been talkingto a few.
I talked to a lot this weekendbut yeah, it's a dire need.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, so men listening?
If there's any men listening tothis podcast, hear the call
Please, I implore you.
Or if you are a coach, butyou're not men listening to this
podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
hey, hear the call please, I implore you.
Or if you are a coach butyou're not coaching yet, you
know, let's talk because youknow there are men out there who
are so deserving I mean, Ibelieve every person should be
coached but there are men therethat are just so deserving of
having a good, solid, strong,masculine feminine.
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You know coach.
Yeah, it's sad, it's kind ofyou know, but it's kind of me.
Stepping back, not coaching menis hope.
I'm hoping that you know theenergy will be felt and more
will come around.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
So, yeah, I think so.
I see a little trend.
I see that a trend in that inyounger men I have found, for
some reason, I've attracted likea little following of men who
are all in their 30s and they'rereally interesting and they're
very in touch with theirfeminine and their masculine.
So I'm like, oh, this is aninteresting energy I see coming
online, which is reallybeautiful.
Good yeah to see those changeshappening.
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And so, carrie, if somesomeone's listening right now
and she's like, oh my gosh, Irelate to her.
I'm doing all the things I don'twant to be doing, and I know I
don't want to be doing thisanymore, but I don't know what I
do want to be doing what tipsdo you have for somebody who's
in that phase of life,especially women, our age?
I'm finding this a lot likethis midlife or this three
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quarter life transformationwhere we're like, okay, the kids
have, I'm an empty nester, I'mbecoming a grandmother, I'm done
doing this business, I'm donedoing all of these things for
everybody else.
Who am I?
What do I want?
What would you say to thatwoman?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Well, the first thing I would say is listen to that
voice.
That voice is the voice oftruth and if you're feeling that
calling, there's alwayssomething more for all of us.
Right.
And so you know, we often don'tlisten to that voice of
intuition, that voice of truth,right, calling us.
I would say grow a relationshipwith that voice.
(23:09):
First of all, you know there'salways I like to call it the
messy middle.
You know where you're going tofeel some pain, you're going to
feel some.
Where you're going to feel somepain, you're going to feel some
things, you're going to feelsome fear, but do it afraid, do
it anyway, because on the otherside of that is pure joy.
If someone would have said tome, you know, six or seven years
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ago, that I would be makingmore money than I've ever made
in my life, traveling whenever Iwant to travel, enjoying a
vacation home 2,400 miles awayfrom my home, you know,
celebrating women and being in,you know, in beautiful
communities and all of thesethings, I would have laughed at
them because I was so confinedby the corporate life I could
only take two weeks of vacationand I had to work Monday through
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Friday.
You know all those things, andit was.
It was scary and it was hard,but I did it, afraid and it was
messy, you're right.
Like I didn't know where I wasgoing.
I didn't know what I was goingto be doing.
I just knew that there wassomething more for me and I not
have to be perfect or figuredout.
Yes, exactly, you will figureit out if you really listen to
that internal voice.
And and and number one and Joy,I know you will agree with me
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on this is find a structure ofsupport, a hundred percent.
We are not meant to do lifealone.
Even in the Bible it says therewere two or more gathered.
There am I, there's energy,there's support in groups or in
structures.
And had I not, you know, goneto that event and said yes and
stepped in, you know who knowswhat would have happened?
(24:38):
I would have probably gone backto corporate America, because
that's what I knew, that, evenif it's just a phone call or,
you know, I would love, I'd behonored to support any woman who
is going through that right now.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, I could feel your heart in that.
Like you really care to helpwomen leap, take that leap.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
It's like here I'll hold your hand while you leap
over that big leap right there,absolutely you leap over that
big leap right there, absolutelyyeah, it's not about you know,
it's just about you know my, my,my mission in this world is to
raise the level of awareness,one woman at a time.
And if it, if all it takes isjust holding out a hand and
saying, hey, I've got you.
You know I, then so be it.
(25:30):
But I know that there's so muchmore that that woman can do in
this world when she has thesupport of others.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Oh my gosh.
And I just saw in my mind's eye, when you said that, that the
ripple effect of that if you'rehere, I'll hold your hand.
Then she can now turn to thewoman behind her and say, here,
I'll take your hand, and so onand so forth, until we have this
big chain of all these womenjust holding each other.
It's that leap of life, becausewe're all.
It is scary.
(25:59):
It is so scary to take thatleap Even when someone is
holding your hand.
I know that when I'm in themiddle of a big leap, I'm
leaping, but then in my mind I'mlike in slow motion going.
What the hell am I doing?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Of course, yeah, yeah , I mean it's, it's scary, you
know.
But again, and the other sideof our comfort zone, there's
where life is, that's where themagic happens, that's where the
beauty is.
You know, and and, and you know, I love the.
I love the quote by MartinLuther King.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
He says you know, take the step and the staircase,
staircase will appear willappear and you know, I feel like
fear and since you're in theworld of spiritual coaching and
you do this, I feel like fear isso irrational and it doesn't
make any sense.
I mean, unless, of course,you're actually in a fearful
situation, but most of us aren'tin our growth.
(26:49):
It just feels so terrifyingthat fear feels.
Fear feels really irrational.
So I'm curious if you have anytools or tricks to help people
really reframe what fear is.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yes, thank you for asking that.
I was just going to mention youknow I often share with my
clients that when we're startingto feel fear, we can look at
fear as a friend, that we'rereally on the edge of the
reality that we've known.
It doesn't mean that we can'tdo it, it just means that we
haven't yet.
So befriend that fear.
(27:20):
Know that when you're startingto feel, think about this.
There's always going to be asqueeze every time there's new
birth.
Think about babies goingthrough the birth canal.
Right, there's squeeze beforethere's new life, a chick is
squeezed in its egg before itbreaks out of its shell.
So we're always going to feel alittle squeeze right before new
life, right before new birth,right before an awakening, right
(27:40):
.
So just know that, that squeezethat you're feeling, that fear
that may be part of you.
Know your next step is actuallyyour friend.
It's telling you that you are,you are moving into your
greatness.
So we can befriend our fear andknow that, just on the other,
courage is taking the step withfear, and so just take a little
courage, befriend your fear,lock arms with it, know that
(28:03):
you're on your green, growingedge, love that.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, you can't have courage without fear.
That's right, yeah, Otherwiseyou're just skating along and
then that builds up that muscleof you know, once you take a
little leap and even justpermission to take a little leap
, I'm going to do some just onething different and take a
little leap and see how it goes.
And it's like I survived that.
So now I'm going to be braverto do something big.
(28:26):
And then, when it comes to justfiguring it out, how do you
feel about?
I need to figure it out, I needto figure it out.
Carrie, help me figure it out.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Well, here's the thing, joya is when we're
stepping into our greatness,when we're going for our next
level of who we are becoming, weare never going to know the how
.
The how is not up to us, right.
The how is up to our higherpower, universe, god, spirit,
source, whatever you call itright.
And so if we just relinquishthat control and recognize that,
yes, we're going to be inaction, we're going to take
steps.
But here's another thing in theBible I love this story and I
(29:03):
love using the Bible as metaphorfor metaphors for life.
But back in the days, way evenbefore Jesus's time, people
would travel at night because itwas hot during the day in the
desert, right, and they weremoving towards the land of milk
and honey, right.
And so they strapped candles ontheir toes in order to see the
(29:24):
next step.
And in the Bible God says I ama light to your feet, a lamp to
your path.
So they only see one step, andthen they see the next step, and
then they see the next step.
So we just get to take one babystep at a time and that will
get us to where we want to go,to our vision right, to our land
of milk and honey to our MountEverest, whatever it is.
(29:46):
If we try to figure out thewhole way, we will become
overwhelmed and stressed andanxious and probably not get
there.
But if we just trust that wejust take one step and then the
light will be the lamp, the pathwill be lit and then we take
the next step and the next step.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Right, that's beautiful.
I love that story.
You know, when I say thislittle practice when I wake up
every morning, I wake up, I layin bed, I feel super grateful
for waking up and it's anotherday of life, like that's my
first thing is like I'mbreathing and I'm alive and I'm
in my warm bed.
What will happen this day?
And then I always say may thelight within me light the way
(30:24):
before me and may I have thecourage to walk it.
I love that and I love that.
You know, when you say yes,that you're.
I believe that when you say yesand you it sounds like you
experienced this too when youtruly say yes to that, to the
erupting beach ball explodingout of your life, you're like,
okay, I'm just gonna let it comeup.
Then you're exactly right.
The universe, your higher self,god, whatever you want to call
(30:47):
it, there is something thatbegins to go to work on you to
be able to express the purposethat only you can fulfill.
On this planet.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
That's right.
I mean, you are now in harmonywith your soul's calling, with
your soul's purpose, andanything that you're in harmony
with is what you will attract.
I mean, we know that that's thelaw of attraction, right,
that's the law of vibration.
So, and if you want to talkabout as a neuroscience side,
but your subconscious mind goesto work on anything that you
tell it all right.
(31:20):
And so if I say, you know, Iwould love to be, do, have, give
, create whatever that is, yoursubconscious mind is going to go
to work, going to go findevidence of it to support you in
moving in that direction.
So you know.
So I mean, it's just such abeautiful thing and yet people
don't quite not, I shouldn't saypeople, but there are.
(31:40):
There are people who don'tunderstand this, and this is
what I'm trying to share withpeople is our thoughts create
our reality.
And so I have a lot of womenwho say, well, I don't want to
lose weight and I don't want tobe like this and I don't want
that, right, and it's likelisten, first of all, we get to
let go of the don'ts and starttalking about the do's.
What do you want?
(32:01):
What do you love?
Right, what do?
Who do you want to be?
And?
And that's a much moresustainable overtime process.
Right, the moving away from isnot sustainable.
Moving towards is sustainable.
But yeah, it is just such abeautiful expression, and is it
perfect?
Absolutely not.
The challenges are here, though,to support us in our growth.
(32:23):
It's to show us the path, andso I mean do I have challenges
in my life?
Yes, but yet I love my life.
I absolutely love all thechallenges.
I love all the things thathappen, because I know that it's
just part of my human journey,it's part of my growth
opportunity.
It's how I respond to thechallenges, it's how I move
(32:44):
through the challenges.
I mean, even in the Bible, itsays, yay, though I walk through
the valley of the shadow ofdeath.
Well, guess what?
The key word there is walkthrough, don't pitch a tent.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, and I love what you said about focusing on what
we do want instead of what wedon't want.
And there's a way of reframingthat, too, where people it's
like oh, I want to lose weight,I want to lose weight, like
you're still focusing on dieting, or you're focusing on the
don't have Instead of I want tobe healthy, I want to feel good
(33:14):
in my body.
I want to be healthy, I want tofeel good in my body, I want to
wear beautiful clothes, what doyou want?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
And the other thing about you know, I have a lot of
women who say I want to loseweight.
Well, when we say lose, we'reactually putting a negative on
it Because our subconscious mindis going to go find it later.
Yes, right, so it's reallyreleasing.
I release the weight.
I'm at my ideal weight.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I'm at my ideal vibrancy right In this day that
I'm in, like that's the I thinkthat's such a key is just stay
present, stay in the day you'rein because you hit another thing
.
I think that's so important andI hope that whoever people
listening heard it was to notlook too far ahead, to not try
to have everything figured out.
It is overwhelming and thenwe're going to be so.
(33:58):
Oh, I just saw a beautifulthing.
Oh, just dropped in.
It was a quote that I saw todaythat said the opposite of faith
is not doubt, it's control.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's exactly right.
Yes, when we try to controllife, it's like we're trying to
fit that square peg into a roundhole, right, and this was me
for years, and I would often sayI was on the struggle bus of
life.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
And I would say that those words came out of your
mouth, out of my mouth?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yep, because I was trying to control everything.
I was trying to get, trying tobe happy.
I was trying to lose weight, Iwas trying to, you know, be
successful, and when Irecognized that I got to like,
get to let go of the word tryand just be.
And then and I love water and Ilove the, you know, thinking
(34:50):
about water and I loved thinkingabout just floating in that
beautiful stream of living water, that life, you know.
And yes, am I going to hit sometwigs and some rocks?
Yes, but that's just thechallenge, that's part of life's
journey.
But I'm in the flow of life now.
I'm not trying to swim upstream, I'm just going with it and I'm
(35:11):
allowing life to come at me andshow me, you know, the beauty
of life.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, oh, I love that You're just such a.
You have such a beautiful soul,such a beautiful energy, so
calming and certain, and you'realways very professional.
The way you present yourself isalways really just authentic.
Though it's not like you'repretending to be somebody that
you're not, it's veryauthentically you.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Well, thank you, I received that and that means a
lot to me.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Carrie, where can anybody find you?
Do you have any kind of?
Do you have a book?
Do you have any courses?
What do you have coming up forwomen that they might be
interested in?
How can they find you if theyfeel like I really want to work
with this woman?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, they can.
So my website isuplevelyourlifeconsultingcom.
On that, I have an upcomingwebinar called Overcoming
Overwhelm.
I have retreats coming up.
I have one in May and one inOctober.
Actually, the May one is soldout, but I have one in October.
They can send an email to mefrom there whatever works.
(36:11):
But yes, any way, I can supportanyone who this resonates with.
And maybe you're just feelinglike there's just something more
.
I have a lot of women who cometo me and say you know, my life
is really good.
I mean, my husband makes goodmoney, or I make good money, and
blah, blah, blah, blah.
And here it's presenting it.
Life is presenting itself.
You wouldn't have found me ifthere wasn't something more for
(36:35):
you.
So just lean into that, Listento life calling you into
something more and say yes.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well, carrie, thank you for joining me today.
What a beautiful conversation.
It was so lovely and I reallytrust that somebody out there
gleaned a golden nugget fromthis conversation.
I'm grateful for you, gratefulfor you as well.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Thank you, joya, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Thank you for listening to we Woke Up Like
this.
Your likes, comments, sharesand subscribes help this content
reach new listeners, and I soappreciate you.
And remember, Luminous One,that your radiant and magnetic
presence changes the world.
Carrie, thank you so much for joining me on.
We Woke Up Like this today.
I'm so excited to have you, andwe're going to kick off this
conversation by asking you whatdoes liberation mean to you and
why is this a topic that youwere like?
Yes, I want to get on yourpodcast and have a conversation
around this.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, joya, honestly, it started with me stepping
into my freedom and myliberation.
I was under such a constraint Iguess the word is with other
people's opinions, ideas,approvals I didn't have my own
thought, I couldn't even thinkmy own thought.
And then, growing up in afamily that was supportive but
(00:47):
wanted me to follow the normalpatterns, the normal like air
quote patterns of life, I justalways felt very contracted,
very constricted, veryconstrained and felt like I had
to put everything into a box andmake it look like what it
should look like and do what Ishould do.
And once I recognized that, Ihave a brain, I have my own
(01:09):
thoughts, I have my own dreams,I have my own visions and I
stepped out of that lane that Iwas in.
That's when liberation happened, that's when life happened,
that's when I blossomed and Iopened myself up to a world of
opportunity and possibility thatI didn't even know existed.
I thought the only opportunityand possibility was what other
people were telling me that Ishould be doing.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
How old were you when you had this epiphany and you
decided to take control of yourown life and your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It was.
I was 54 years old.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, Wow, that's amazing.
So did you.
That must have shaken up, orshook up your family, your, your
married, your spouse.
Like what was that?
Like when you just all of asudden were like I'm Carrie, it
was.
It was really quite a.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
it was, quite it was liberation for everyone.
Quite, quite honestly, you know, I was living in contraction
the entire time.
I mean my I, you know, andeverybody had not I shouldn't
say everybody, but I had a timein my life when I knew that
things were not the way theywere supposed to be.
This was not what I, the lifethat I wanted to live, you know
(02:14):
I was.
My son had just suffered frommajor depression and and was
having epileptic seizures.
My daughter was riddled withanxiety at college.
My marriage was crumbling.
I hated I don't even like to usethat word, but I hated the life
that I was living, the careerthat I had.
(02:35):
I was drinking a bottle of wineevery night just to drown out
all the things that werehappening in my life.
And so when I did step into whoI really am and really start
living the true, authentic selfof Carrie, everything changed
for the better.
It was such an amazingexperience to finally be free of
(02:57):
all those things that werecausing so many awful things
happening.
And so now you know now I meanI we just celebrated our 35th
wedding anniversary.
My, my son, is married to thelove of his life and his health
is wonderful.
My daughter just gave us oursecond grandbaby and she's doing
wonderful.
My career is exploded and I'mso blessed and honored to be on
(03:18):
this journey with other womenand um.
But the opportunities, thepossibilities opened up for me
and my awareness was that, yes,I can be who I really am.
Listen to that true, authenticself inside of me.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Were there conscious thoughts that you were just
feeling like I'm not happy?
Was it more energetic that wasdriving you, that drove you to
this point where you're like Ihave to change what's happening
here?
I think it was a little ofeverything quite honestly over
(03:55):
time, over time.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, you know I.
I mean, I can remember when Iwas and I share this often but
when I was 16 years old, sittingat the dinner table getting
ready to go to college, and mydad said what do you want to do
when you grow up?
And I said I want to have animpact in this world.
I want to be able to.
You know, I was very much intomixed media arts.
(04:16):
I want to be an artist and Iwant to have an impact.
And my dad said but you're notgoing to make a lot of money
doing that, carrie, right, andso it so.
So unlived life right, itstarted, I started to push it
down and what happens is unlivedlife is kind of like a beach
ball underwater it doesn't staythere Such a perfect analogy.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, that pressure starts to build in your own life
, right?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yes, and, and I can remember, you know, fast forward
, you know several years, but Ican remember, you know, driving
back to school to take somethingto my children that they had
left at home for about the fifthtime in a week.
And I can remember pulling overthe side of the road and saying
what am I doing here?
I don't even know who I am.
(05:03):
I'm now as much as I love mychildren.
They are running my life.
I don't know who I am here,right, and so it was just, it
was a gradual thing.
But then, finally, you know, Icame to a point in my life where
I was like, listen, I, I have,there's something more for me
here, you know, there'ssomething more than than just
being somebody else's someone orlistening to what other people
(05:28):
are telling me that I should bedoing.
And it came to a head.
I was in corporate America.
I was from the outside I lookedlike I was having success, but
on the inside I was absolutelyjust dying.
And there was a pivotal momentwhen I had invested our entire
life savings in a business thatI thought was going to be the
next greatest thing for me,because I was always trying to
(05:48):
fit a square peg into a roundhole and there was just a moment
in time where I said I'm notdoing this anymore.
I'm going after what Carriewants, what Carrie needs, what
Carrie is.
And here I am and it's broughtme to where I am today and I
absolutely love me.
I love my life, I love thefreedom that I have, I love the
(06:08):
clients that I support.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Oh, making an impact in the world.
Yes, yes, yeah, 16 year oldCarrie is so proud of you.
She's like, yes, we did it.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's right, and and this year I have cleared space
in my office and I'm going backto art Yay.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Gosh good for you.
That feels so good.
It really I'm just, I'mthrilled.
Oh my gosh, keri, I love thatfor you.
I'm super curious about you.
Know, you had such anestablished life, I mean,
investing everything in thisother business, and now you're
doing this other business.
What were were the like forwomen listening who are and I
know that so many women relateto this because, especially, you
(06:50):
know, when we're younger, thisis such a common story that I
hear too with you know, well,that's great that you want to do
that, but that's not going tomake you a lot of money, or
that's great that you want to dothat, but that's not the path
that we set out for you.
And then lots of women take thispath and then they get married,
and then they have children,and then they have a career and
they're doing all these thingsthat they do get lost in there
(07:11):
and it does build up as like afeeling of pressure.
So what was that like for you?
What were your, you know, likegoing back to women who are
listening, when you decided,like this is that's it, I just
cannot, I cannot do this anymore.
What?
What were the steps that youtook to begin to even discover?
Did you know what you wanted todo next, or how did you go
about discovering what it wasthat you even wanted to do in
(07:34):
the first place?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, I, first of all , I want to, I want to just say
that you know, it was more aboutmy career.
You know, I love.
I love being a mother, I lovebeing a wife.
You know that that wasabsolutely part of my, my dream
and my plan, you know, even as a16 year old girl, right, but it
was more of my expression of me.
You know, with my children Iwas very authentic, you know.
(07:57):
I mean, I, I always supportedthem in doing what they wanted
to do, and I and I didn't.
I didn't follow the patternsthat had happened in my family.
I wanted them to go and do andbe and have and give and
whatever, whatever they wouldlove, what, what really happened
was this?
The corporate structure.
Right, the corporate structurereally was.
(08:18):
You know, my dad, when we weresitting there having dinner that
night and he said, what do youwant to do with your life?
And I said I, you know, wantedto make an impact.
I want to do smart and and andhe, he, you know, out of love
and protection, he said to meCarrie, you're not going to make
a lot of money doing that, butreally, julia, what I heard him
say was you'll never havesuccess, going after your dream.
(08:39):
And so I made that decisionwhen I was 16 years old, that my
dream wasn't worth it, that itwasn't worthy of being fully
expressed.
What happened over time?
Like that beach ball, Icontinued to push life down,
continued to push life down,listening to the opinion and
approval of other people, untilI reached a point in my life
where I started talking to otherwomen and realizing they've
(09:01):
done the same thing.
They're looking for somethingmore.
There's something more outthere in life that's calling
them, and I decided to take astand for them.
But in reality, I was taking astand for me, right, and I would
poke my head up.
You know, it was kind of likepoking my head up out of a
foxhole and looking around andwondering is there anybody else
out there?
And so what that looked likewas when I walked away from my
(09:25):
company that my husband and Iwere actually purchasing.
I invested our entire lifesavings into this company that I
thought was going to be.
Listen to everybody else tellme it was a wonderful experience
, you know, wonderful thing.
And I followed the shiny bouncyball when I walked away.
You know, it was super scary.
I mean, I didn't know if I wasgoing to get my money back.
(09:46):
I didn't know if my husband wasgoing to divorce me at that
moment, because I made adecision pretty much in the
moment that I was leaving, wow,and I didn't know what it was
going to look like.
I didn't know what my next stepwas.
I just knew that life wascalling me into something more.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
So when you said yes, is that when it just started
showing up for you it?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
did.
It did Because what I know forsure is, when you make a
decision, the universe starts toconspire with you and decision
that you make Right.
And so I knew that there wassomething more calling me.
And so I just stand and youknow I was scared.
I was, you know.
I mean I think I cried myselfto sleep several nights because
(10:29):
I thought what my paradigms arestarting to get to me.
What did I do?
Oh, my gosh.
But I just knew that there wassomething more.
So what I started to do thenwas I researched, getting myself
a life coach, because I haddone therapy.
Therapy didn't really reallyhit the target for me I'm not
bashing it, but it just wasn'tfor me.
And I started looking for a lifecoach.
(10:50):
And you know, beautiful socialmedia, you're scrolling through
and all of a sudden you get allthese different things come up,
right, and something came upwith the Brave Thinking
Institute with Mary Morrissey,with the Brave Thinking
Institute, with Mary Morrissey,and then a friend of mine said,
(11:12):
hey, you know, let's go down tothis conference in LA and and
check it out.
And I was kind of kicking andscreaming.
I'm like I'm really.
You know, that's not reallysomething I want to do right now
.
But, joya, it was like againthe universe was presenting
things to me that just Icouldn't resist.
I met Mary Morrissey in person.
I fell in love with her.
She's mentored me from day one,she's mentored by her
(11:34):
personally and was asked to stepinto the coaching role.
Amazing, when I was, when I wasasked that question, it was
like um, the Phoenix rising fromthe ashes.
When the feet, when the phoenixis done with its life, it burns
(11:56):
in fire, but then it risesagain out of, in, creates new
life, and I just felt like thisis it, this is this is what I've
been called to do.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And I had to go through all of those things to
get to where I am today and itgave you so much understanding
of the journey and women who areholding themselves back or
stuff or sitting on that beachball underwater, like I can't
let this come up, I can't letthis come up, that they.
I just love good coaches andMary Morrissey is just so
beautiful.
I didn't I actually didn't evenknow that you were a Mary
(12:26):
Morrissey coach, so that's why Ilove having these conversations
.
Yes, how long have you beencoaching with that organization
or on your own, obviously, buttrained and working with Mary?
Yeah, so March it'll be fiveyears.
Wow, that's amazing.
Congratulations, carrie.
That's huge.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Thank you.
Yeah, I'm really thrilled andit's been such a journey to get
here, but, you know, honestly,it's been the most beautiful,
looking back, that you know, Igot to experience all of that in
order to support my clientsmoving forward and I'm just so
honored honestly honored to beon this journey with women.
(13:02):
It's just incredible.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Well, yeah, and you can.
You know, I think that's soimportant to.
When you're working with acoach, I always look for, like,
does this person understand me?
Have they gone through life,Like they've actually lived life
and have actually made thosebig leaps and those big changes
themselves?
And you have.
So I think that is just so.
That's really really remarkable, and I just really commend you
(13:26):
on your courage to have.
I mean, that takes a lot ofcourage to do what you did,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yes, I mustered quite a bit, but you know there's
it's always scary whenever youstep into your greatness.
You know, and fear will alwaysbe a companion, and I didn't
know that at the time.
I knew that it was going to bescary.
I didn't know that I wasactually stepping into a greater
, freer, fuller expression ofwho I am.
At the time I just knew that Icouldn't do what I was doing
(13:51):
anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
So yeah, and you're still continuing to become freer
.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
We've never have arrived, right, you know, we
know that we're always growing,we're always learning, we're
always evolving and and yeah,and that's that's what I love
about life, right?
Is that there's always more tolearn.
There's always.
I was just down at DreamBuilder Live this weekend with
Mary and and the staff andconstantly, you know, honing my
skills but also growing my levelof awareness.
(14:17):
You know, there's just a deeperlevel and a deeper level.
And so, yeah, I'm just, I lovemy life.
In fact, I had a conversationwith Mary this weekend and I
said you know, mary, becauseshe's very much about you know,
a vision driven on life.
And I even said to her you know, I love my life so much I can't
see the next level vision.
And she looked me square in theface, joy, and she said then
(14:38):
you're not listening.
And I thought, ok, there I go,another layer of awareness right
, you know we get in thosesafety.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You know those safe spaces where we're like OK, I
like this, I've made it here now.
It's like resting on yourlaurels, right, it's like I've
made it to where I am now andthis is good, this is safe, I
don't, I don't feel anythingcalling me now, exactly, I'm
happy, I'm good.
But then there's so much more,as you know, it's like you get
called and called and called tomake a bigger impact.
(15:06):
If you're willing to say yes,then the universe is like hey,
there, she's gonna say yes, comeon, let's go.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Exactly, exactly, yeah, and I'm here and I and I
had an amazing awakening thisweekend on what my next level
vision is.
Do you care to share a?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
little bit about the awakening process.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, well, you know so.
So one of the things when Marysaid that to me, I really took
it to heart that I was notreceptive.
I was not being receptive, andso I just, I just made a pact
with myself that you know, I'mhere for me, I'm here, I'm here
to to, to you know, reallydefine and understand and
(15:44):
receive what that next levelvision is for me.
And so I just, you know, thewhole weekend stood in grateful
expectation, knowing that it wascoming, that there was
something for me.
And I'll tell you, joya, youknow some people they get quiet
whispers.
I got a knock on the head.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Those are nice, because then you can't deny it.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
There's no way.
You cannot make this stuff up.
So I'm really, you know.
I want to take my spiritualityeven deeper.
I want to have a clear path andunderstand even deeper.
I want to have a clear path andunderstand, you know me on an
even deeper level, but also myphysicality.
(16:26):
You know I'm 59 years old.
I want you know there arelittle voices in my head saying
but you're too old and you'relosing your spark, and you know,
blah, blah, blah, blah, allthose things right.
So this weekend, jenniferJimenez, who is Mary's daughter,
she led us in a dance ofrelease and it just flooded my
body with little love bumps.
I don't know what it was, but Ijust felt so wonderful and I
(16:48):
was a volunteer, so I also gotto be inside early and meet with
the staff and all that.
But anyhow, sunday morning wehad a prayer circle and all the
volunteers were in the circleand the staff and the faculty
put their hands on all of us andthey said a prayer over us.
I turned around and Jenniferwas the one that had her hand on
my back and something came overme.
(17:11):
I just felt the spirit move meand I gave her a big hug and I
said I want to work with you, Iwant to know what you're doing
and I want to get more in touchwith my the wellbeing side of my
being.
You know the beingness and andand and.
She said when was the last she?
(17:31):
She said when was the last timethat you had that you went on a
retreat, carrie for you,Because I host my own retreats
and I started crying and I saidit's been a long time.
And she said it's time for youto fill your cup.
Yeah, and for you to fill yourcup and so that you can be a
conduit of love for your clients.
(17:53):
You know that you're basicallypracticing what you're preaching
.
I've been in a lot of kind ofpush, energy and masculine
energy in the last couple monthsand my business is growing and
it's wonderful and I love it.
But there's a both sides rightand and I kind of lost track of
that.
So so I signed up for herprogram and I'm moving forward
with her Healthy, vibrant Womenprogram and I'm really excited
(18:15):
because there's a lot of partsto that that really interest me
and will support my clientsmoving forward.
It's absolutely level.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Thank you, thank you, yeah, I'm really excited.
I'm excited to work with herand so many other little little
synchronicities were happeningthat weekend around that that I
just I couldn't.
I just stepped in and said, yes, yeah, the door is clearly
opened, come on through, yeah, Ilove that.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And then you never know what's going to happen,
right?
It's like when you said yes toyour girlfriend to go down, to
go to California, and thenyou're like, oh my gosh, so
expanded.
And then now you say yes tothis and so expanded.
And I know the same is true forme to carry that within the
last year and a half it's beenso much about embodiment,
bringing it to the body, cominghome in the body, feeling in the
(19:05):
body, living in your body, andthat's not easy work, especially
when we're so mental if we'revery mental people, which I am,
and I can hear you are too thatit makes it so hard to go in the
body.
And it's like the body, justlike my feminine side is like I
just want to flow and paint, gowith the flow, and my masculine
side is like we have stuff to do, exactly, exactly I get it.
(19:30):
Yeah, I just want to come inmore in harmony, you know I want
in an alignment with that andyes and I because I know we have
both sides and I want to I wantto really, you know, just just
be with that and be in alignmentwith that and be able to be in
flow with what is coming andwhat I get to do and not have to
(19:50):
have it be such push energy,you know so yeah, and I know
that that will happen for you,because that's so the energy I
feel that's happening is allabout that unit, that divine
union that happens inside of uswith our own toxic masculine
push energy definitely the pushenergy and then the divine
feminine that can be toxicfemininity energy, that that's
(20:13):
running us inside of ourselves,that we're not even aware that
these patterns are running us,and so when you do unify those
it's, it'll be so powerful foryou, of course, and then boom
for your clients.
I can't even imagine what'sgoing to happen with what you'll
bring forward for the womenthat you work with.
Do you work with women?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yes, I have worked with some men in the past.
I have a client that's a man,that's a gentleman, right now.
Yeah, you know it's it's.
If they're in touch with theirfeminine side, then typically
you know they're it's, they'reopen to it.
It's not something that Ireally am going to pursue
Because, quite frankly, it's acall out to men to step up and
(20:52):
become coaches and it's a callout to men to step up and become
coaches.
Right, like we need more mencoaches.
Yeah, serve to have really goodcoaches.
So you know, I've been talkingto a few.
I talked to a lot this weekendbut yeah, it's a dire need.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, so men listening?
If there's any men listening tothis podcast, hear the call
Please, I implore you.
Or if you are a coach, butyou're not men listening to this
podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
hey, hear the call please, I implore you.
Or if you are a coach butyou're not coaching yet, you
know, let's talk because youknow there are men out there who
are so deserving I mean, Ibelieve every person should be
coached but there are men therethat are just so deserving of
having a good, solid, strong,masculine feminine.
(21:37):
You know coach.
Yeah, it's sad, it's kind ofyou know, but it's kind of me.
Stepping back, not coaching menis hope.
I'm hoping that you know theenergy will be felt and more
will come around.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
So, yeah, I think so.
I see a little trend.
I see that a trend in that inyounger men I have found, for
some reason, I've attracted likea little following of men who
are all in their 30s and they'rereally interesting and they're
very in touch with theirfeminine and their masculine.
So I'm like, oh, this is aninteresting energy I see coming
online, which is reallybeautiful.
Good yeah to see those changeshappening.
(22:14):
And so, carrie, if somesomeone's listening right now
and she's like, oh my gosh, Irelate to her.
I'm doing all the things I don'twant to be doing, and I know I
don't want to be doing thisanymore, but I don't know what I
do want to be doing what tipsdo you have for somebody who's
in that phase of life,especially women, our age?
I'm finding this a lot likethis midlife or this three
(22:35):
quarter life transformationwhere we're like, okay, the kids
have, I'm an empty nester, I'mbecoming a grandmother, I'm done
doing this business, I'm donedoing all of these things for
everybody else.
Who am I?
What do I want?
What would you say to thatwoman?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Well, the first thing I would say is listen to that
voice.
That voice is the voice oftruth and if you're feeling that
calling, there's alwayssomething more for all of us.
Right.
And so you know, we often don'tlisten to that voice of
intuition, that voice of truth,right, calling us.
I would say grow a relationshipwith that voice.
(23:09):
First of all, you know there'salways I like to call it the
messy middle.
You know where you're going tofeel some pain, you're going to
feel some.
Where you're going to feel somepain, you're going to feel some
things, you're going to feelsome fear, but do it afraid, do
it anyway, because on the otherside of that is pure joy.
If someone would have said tome, you know, six or seven years
(23:30):
ago, that I would be makingmore money than I've ever made
in my life, traveling whenever Iwant to travel, enjoying a
vacation home 2,400 miles awayfrom my home, you know,
celebrating women and being in,you know, in beautiful
communities and all of thesethings, I would have laughed at
them because I was so confinedby the corporate life I could
only take two weeks of vacationand I had to work Monday through
(23:52):
Friday.
You know all those things, andit was.
It was scary and it was hard,but I did it, afraid and it was
messy, you're right.
Like I didn't know where I wasgoing.
I didn't know what I was goingto be doing.
I just knew that there wassomething more for me and I not
have to be perfect or figuredout.
Yes, exactly, you will figureit out if you really listen to
that internal voice.
And and and number one and Joy,I know you will agree with me
(24:16):
on this is find a structure ofsupport, a hundred percent.
We are not meant to do lifealone.
Even in the Bible it says therewere two or more gathered.
There am I, there's energy,there's support in groups or in
structures.
And had I not, you know, goneto that event and said yes and
stepped in, you know who knowswhat would have happened?
(24:38):
I would have probably gone backto corporate America, because
that's what I knew, that, evenif it's just a phone call or,
you know, I would love, I'd behonored to support any woman who
is going through that right now.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, I could feel your heart in that.
Like you really care to helpwomen leap, take that leap.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
It's like here I'll hold your hand while you leap
over that big leap right there,absolutely you leap over that
big leap right there, absolutelyyeah, it's not about you know,
it's just about you know my, my,my mission in this world is to
raise the level of awareness,one woman at a time.
And if it, if all it takes isjust holding out a hand and
saying, hey, I've got you.
You know I, then so be it.
(25:30):
But I know that there's so muchmore that that woman can do in
this world when she has thesupport of others.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Oh my gosh.
And I just saw in my mind's eye, when you said that, that the
ripple effect of that if you'rehere, I'll hold your hand.
Then she can now turn to thewoman behind her and say, here,
I'll take your hand, and so onand so forth, until we have this
big chain of all these womenjust holding each other.
It's that leap of life, becausewe're all.
It is scary.
(25:59):
It is so scary to take thatleap Even when someone is
holding your hand.
I know that when I'm in themiddle of a big leap, I'm
leaping, but then in my mind I'mlike in slow motion going.
What the hell am I doing?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Of course, yeah, yeah , I mean it's, it's scary, you
know.
But again, and the other sideof our comfort zone, there's
where life is, that's where themagic happens, that's where the
beauty is.
You know, and and, and you know, I love the.
I love the quote by MartinLuther King.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
He says you know, take the step and the staircase,
staircase will appear willappear and you know, I feel like
fear and since you're in theworld of spiritual coaching and
you do this, I feel like fear isso irrational and it doesn't
make any sense.
I mean, unless, of course,you're actually in a fearful
situation, but most of us aren'tin our growth.
(26:49):
It just feels so terrifyingthat fear feels.
Fear feels really irrational.
So I'm curious if you have anytools or tricks to help people
really reframe what fear is.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yes, thank you for asking that.
I was just going to mention youknow I often share with my
clients that when we're startingto feel fear, we can look at
fear as a friend, that we'rereally on the edge of the
reality that we've known.
It doesn't mean that we can'tdo it, it just means that we
haven't yet.
So befriend that fear.
(27:20):
Know that when you're startingto feel, think about this.
There's always going to be asqueeze every time there's new
birth.
Think about babies goingthrough the birth canal.
Right, there's squeeze beforethere's new life, a chick is
squeezed in its egg before itbreaks out of its shell.
So we're always going to feel alittle squeeze right before new
life, right before new birth,right before an awakening, right
(27:40):
.
So just know that, that squeezethat you're feeling, that fear
that may be part of you.
Know your next step is actuallyyour friend.
It's telling you that you are,you are moving into your
greatness.
So we can befriend our fear andknow that, just on the other,
courage is taking the step withfear, and so just take a little
courage, befriend your fear,lock arms with it, know that
(28:03):
you're on your green, growingedge, love that.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, you can't have courage without fear.
That's right, yeah, Otherwiseyou're just skating along and
then that builds up that muscleof you know, once you take a
little leap and even justpermission to take a little leap
, I'm going to do some just onething different and take a
little leap and see how it goes.
And it's like I survived that.
So now I'm going to be braverto do something big.
(28:26):
And then, when it comes to justfiguring it out, how do you
feel about?
I need to figure it out, I needto figure it out.
Carrie, help me figure it out.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Well, here's the thing, joya is when we're
stepping into our greatness,when we're going for our next
level of who we are becoming, weare never going to know the how
.
The how is not up to us, right.
The how is up to our higherpower, universe, god, spirit,
source, whatever you call itright.
And so if we just relinquishthat control and recognize that,
yes, we're going to be inaction, we're going to take
steps.
But here's another thing in theBible I love this story and I
(29:03):
love using the Bible as metaphorfor metaphors for life.
But back in the days, way evenbefore Jesus's time, people
would travel at night because itwas hot during the day in the
desert, right, and they weremoving towards the land of milk
and honey, right.
And so they strapped candles ontheir toes in order to see the
(29:24):
next step.
And in the Bible God says I ama light to your feet, a lamp to
your path.
So they only see one step, andthen they see the next step, and
then they see the next step.
So we just get to take one babystep at a time and that will
get us to where we want to go,to our vision right, to our land
of milk and honey to our MountEverest, whatever it is.
(29:46):
If we try to figure out thewhole way, we will become
overwhelmed and stressed andanxious and probably not get
there.
But if we just trust that wejust take one step and then the
light will be the lamp, the pathwill be lit and then we take
the next step and the next step.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Right, that's beautiful.
I love that story.
You know, when I say thislittle practice when I wake up
every morning, I wake up, I layin bed, I feel super grateful
for waking up and it's anotherday of life, like that's my
first thing is like I'mbreathing and I'm alive and I'm
in my warm bed.
What will happen this day?
And then I always say may thelight within me light the way
(30:24):
before me and may I have thecourage to walk it.
I love that and I love that.
You know, when you say yes,that you're.
I believe that when you say yesand you it sounds like you
experienced this too when youtruly say yes to that, to the
erupting beach ball explodingout of your life, you're like,
okay, I'm just gonna let it comeup.
Then you're exactly right.
The universe, your higher self,god, whatever you want to call
(30:47):
it, there is something thatbegins to go to work on you to
be able to express the purposethat only you can fulfill.
On this planet.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
That's right.
I mean, you are now in harmonywith your soul's calling, with
your soul's purpose, andanything that you're in harmony
with is what you will attract.
I mean, we know that that's thelaw of attraction, right,
that's the law of vibration.
So, and if you want to talkabout as a neuroscience side,
but your subconscious mind goesto work on anything that you
tell it all right.
(31:20):
And so if I say, you know, Iwould love to be, do, have, give
, create whatever that is, yoursubconscious mind is going to go
to work, going to go findevidence of it to support you in
moving in that direction.
So you know.
So I mean, it's just such abeautiful thing and yet people
don't quite not, I shouldn't saypeople, but there are.
(31:40):
There are people who don'tunderstand this, and this is
what I'm trying to share withpeople is our thoughts create
our reality.
And so I have a lot of womenwho say, well, I don't want to
lose weight and I don't want tobe like this and I don't want
that, right, and it's likelisten, first of all, we get to
let go of the don'ts and starttalking about the do's.
What do you want?
(32:01):
What do you love?
Right, what do?
Who do you want to be?
And?
And that's a much moresustainable overtime process.
Right, the moving away from isnot sustainable.
Moving towards is sustainable.
But yeah, it is just such abeautiful expression, and is it
perfect?
Absolutely not.
The challenges are here, though,to support us in our growth.
(32:23):
It's to show us the path, andso I mean do I have challenges
in my life?
Yes, but yet I love my life.
I absolutely love all thechallenges.
I love all the things thathappen, because I know that it's
just part of my human journey,it's part of my growth
opportunity.
It's how I respond to thechallenges, it's how I move
(32:44):
through the challenges.
I mean, even in the Bible, itsays, yay, though I walk through
the valley of the shadow ofdeath.
Well, guess what?
The key word there is walkthrough, don't pitch a tent.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, and I love what you said about focusing on what
we do want instead of what wedon't want.
And there's a way of reframingthat, too, where people it's
like oh, I want to lose weight,I want to lose weight, like
you're still focusing on dieting, or you're focusing on the
don't have Instead of I want tobe healthy, I want to feel good
(33:14):
in my body.
I want to be healthy, I want tofeel good in my body, I want to
wear beautiful clothes, what doyou want?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
And the other thing about you know, I have a lot of
women who say I want to loseweight.
Well, when we say lose, we'reactually putting a negative on
it Because our subconscious mindis going to go find it later.
Yes, right, so it's reallyreleasing.
I release the weight.
I'm at my ideal weight.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I'm at my ideal vibrancy right In this day that
I'm in, like that's the I thinkthat's such a key is just stay
present, stay in the day you'rein because you hit another thing
.
I think that's so important andI hope that whoever people
listening heard it was to notlook too far ahead, to not try
to have everything figured out.
It is overwhelming and thenwe're going to be so.
(33:58):
Oh, I just saw a beautifulthing.
Oh, just dropped in.
It was a quote that I saw todaythat said the opposite of faith
is not doubt, it's control.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's exactly right.
Yes, when we try to controllife, it's like we're trying to
fit that square peg into a roundhole, right, and this was me
for years, and I would often sayI was on the struggle bus of
life.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
And I would say that those words came out of your
mouth, out of my mouth?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yep, because I was trying to control everything.
I was trying to get, trying tobe happy.
I was trying to lose weight, Iwas trying to, you know, be
successful, and when Irecognized that I got to like,
get to let go of the word tryand just be.
And then and I love water and Ilove the, you know, thinking
(34:50):
about water and I loved thinkingabout just floating in that
beautiful stream of living water, that life, you know.
And yes, am I going to hit sometwigs and some rocks?
Yes, but that's just thechallenge, that's part of life's
journey.
But I'm in the flow of life now.
I'm not trying to swim upstream, I'm just going with it and I'm
(35:11):
allowing life to come at me andshow me, you know, the beauty
of life.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, oh, I love that You're just such a.
You have such a beautiful soul,such a beautiful energy, so
calming and certain, and you'realways very professional.
The way you present yourself isalways really just authentic.
Though it's not like you'repretending to be somebody that
you're not, it's veryauthentically you.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Well, thank you, I received that and that means a
lot to me.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Carrie, where can anybody find you?
Do you have any kind of?
Do you have a book?
Do you have any courses?
What do you have coming up forwomen that they might be
interested in?
How can they find you if theyfeel like I really want to work
with this woman?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, they can.
So my website isuplevelyourlifeconsultingcom.
On that, I have an upcomingwebinar called Overcoming
Overwhelm.
I have retreats coming up.
I have one in May and one inOctober.
Actually, the May one is soldout, but I have one in October.
They can send an email to mefrom there whatever works.
(36:11):
But yes, any way, I can supportanyone who this resonates with.
And maybe you're just feelinglike there's just something more
.
I have a lot of women who cometo me and say you know, my life
is really good.
I mean, my husband makes goodmoney, or I make good money, and
blah, blah, blah, blah.
And here it's presenting it.
Life is presenting itself.
You wouldn't have found me ifthere wasn't something more for
(36:35):
you.
So just lean into that, Listento life calling you into
something more and say yes.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well, carrie, thank you for joining me today.
What a beautiful conversation.
It was so lovely and I reallytrust that somebody out there
gleaned a golden nugget fromthis conversation.
I'm grateful for you, gratefulfor you as well.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Thank you, joya, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Thank you for listening to we Woke Up Like
this.
Your likes, comments, sharesand subscribes help this content
reach new listeners, and I soappreciate you.
And remember, Luminous One,that your radiant and magnetic
presence changes the world.
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