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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello and welcome to
this Versus that making wedding
decisions with Kelly McWilliams.
This podcast is for you ifyou're making a wedding decision
and want to know what toconsider before saying I do to
all the things that will makeyour wedding experience a great
one.
I'm your host, kelly McWilliams, and I'm so glad to be a part
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of your wedding planning journey.
In each episode, you can counton me and my expert wedding
co-hosts to give you everythingit takes to make the best
decisions for the wedding thatyou're dreaming of.
So this episode is about AI andwhat you can and cannot do when
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it comes to using AI with yourwedding, and maybe I shouldn't
say cannot, but maybe beconsiderate about how you're
using it.
But also, more so, we're goingto talk about some tools that
you can use when planning yourwedding using AI and, in
particular, chat GPT.
Michelle Martinez, who is thehost of the Big Wedding Planning
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Podcast.
She's been on the show a fewtimes.
You guys know her well and I'vebeen on her show a few times
where dear friends, and so she'son it and she and I just talk
about how you can use it and wetalk a little bit about maybe
how you should not use it whenit comes to photographers,
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images that have been sent toyou and changing them and things
like that.
But mostly we want to explainhow you should use AI.
But beyond just AI, like youwant to keep the human element
to it.
So it's I guess we want to sayAI versus human, but really
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we're saying we think it's agreat place to use both, and we
want you to lean into yourwedding professionals, of course
, but we think that this couldactually save you so much time
and be able to communicatebetter with your wedding vendors
, with your friends and familymembers.
It's going to help you withwriting just so many things.
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So let me go ahead and getMichelle on here.
I'm really excited.
I think we'll bring to lightsome things, and she gives a
couple of different resourcesduring the conversation that
we'll share in the show notes.
Okay, let's talk about it, chatGBT or chat if you ask Michelle
, you'll hear that story.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Okay, let's go,
michelle what are you smiling at
?
Hi Kelly, there was like alittle.
You know those little tinylittle like little buddies, like
a little like a kind of like afruit fly.
But I don't know why I didn'thave a fruit fly in here.
It was a weird little bugComing to visit, just right in
my face, Going to stick to mylip gloss.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
This is the weirdest
start to an episode ever, but no
, this is I'm so.
We just this came up the lasttime I was on your show.
We were talking about AI, ormaybe it was after the show.
You and I were just talking andhe said you know, maybe we
should, maybe we should talkabout AI, and I was like that's
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a really.
I think it's a great topic andthe more I think about it and
for as often as I use itpersonally with wedding planning
, I think between the two of uswe have a lot of thoughts and
ideas about it and like AIversus like sticking with humans
, you know or just like even ifit's not just completely human
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versus AI, maybe like humanversus AI, use versus the
combination of you know, likestarting with something and
letting it be touched by AI andthen finishing it off as a human
being, which I also think kindof needs to be a rule that we
should place in front ofeveryone that's listening.
Yeah, okay.
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So first of all, for those whodon't know what AI is, it is
artificial intelligence and itis slowly evolving into this
amazing thing.
I find it amazing and there's a.
It's a tool that you can use tohelp you better communicate,
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create, write, design, all kindsof things.
It does a lot of work for us.
I would say the tool I use themost often is chat GBT.
Do you use it, michelle?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Oh yes, he's my buddy
, he's here always open on my
like.
Always there.
Help helps me with everything.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yes, yes.
So to explain to everyone howwe use it in our businesses, I
think we'll be helpful to useand then we can, michelle, maybe
you and I can talk aboutdifferent things that people
could potentially use thesetools for.
So for me, like I have used itto write emails that are a
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little bit more concise, thathave the give the right tone
when I'm trying to sendsomething to catch grammatical
errors.
I've used it to writepresentations hear my dogs?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I hear your dogs.
They're being so loud right now.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
They're very loud.
Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
They're on the
podcast.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, they're on the
podcast frequently.
I use it to write, help mewrite captions for my feed,
instagram feed.
You can almost tell when you'regoing through them which are
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really written by a computer andwhich are me, because when I
start writing on there it's likea full story, it's like an
article written.
But what it does is allows me,it gives me back some time so
that I can do those kinds youknow like.
It'll give me the easy, quickones so that I can spend more
time writing like really goodquality ones, which then I can
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share more pictures, which, inthe end, is what everybody wants
.
Right, absolutely Okay.
So, michelle, what do you useit for?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I mean, I'm mostly so
you know what's interesting is.
By the way, I asked chat GPT tohelp me out with this today,
and here's what I used to thinkit was Chad, by the way, like
with the D Did you?
really, because my husbandstarted using it and he has a
very heavy accent.
My husband's from Mexico City,so he's, you know, I'm not used
to I mean I'm used to his accent, but I thought I swear he was
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saying Chad GPT and I was likewho's Chad, chad GPT?
And I asked Chad GPT, like what?
What are some you know AI toolsto use to plan a wedding?
And you know he, because Ibelieve chat GPT is a he.
But who knows Me too?
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Isn't that funny that weassigned something, we assign a
gender, I know, isn't that?
Yeah, I mean we can go on aboutthat.
I mean, even we've been using AIfor a long time.
I mean, facebook Messenger is achat bot, whatsapp all seeded,
which is something that is hugeand very popular.
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I'm sure you use it to do floorvans and a lot of venues use it
and a lot of Marriers out therelistening who are planning
their weddings are using it.
Or should Zola has its own AIincorporated into it.
I mean, all of these big, youknow websites, these big
planning portals use AI and weare now just able to access it
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at our fingertips.
And so you know and I know it'severybody's talking about it
and AI, all of a sudden,everything's AI, ai, ai, ai, ai,
AI.
I can't even say it, but thebottom line is chat GPT is the
biggest one that I use.
My husband, who is you know,works in the creative field.
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He does commercials and youknow all sorts of branding.
He uses something called MittJourney and he just creates, oh
my gosh, the stuff that hecreates like visuals is insane.
I'm like, yeah, this is scaryand really, really cool.
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But I think that you know, aswith anything, it's like it's
not an all or nothing, Like Iknow I'm, and I'm just like that
personality either.
I'm not a black or white girl,I'm a gray and between person.
So like I definitely think I donot have a talent for writing,
so I am so stoked about chat GPT, but I think it's so helpful to
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people out there planning theirweddings because you know
invitation wording,communicating with your wedding
party.
Writing emails that are reallyuncomfortable to that really
frustrating family member whohas really been pissing you off
and you cannot believe she isgoing there.
And how are you going to talkto her?
I'm going to write her a letter.
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I need chat GPT to write mesomething so that I am not using
the F bomb every two seconds.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You know on eight,
mary yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
So super helpful for
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah.
So let's talk about some of thevery specific ways that you and
I can think of that peoplecould use it, and maybe some of
the pros and cons to it, but Ialso want to help people that
are going to try to use it touse it well, because it does
take some practice, wouldn't youagree?
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Like you have to get great atwriting prompts, and that's
where I found the biggestdifference.
Okay, let me go with my firstexample here, and I have clients
who are right now trying to.
Their cousin is doing theirwedding ceremony and so we were
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having a call with them.
And it's not done it before.
And so I was talking with themand I was like have you guys
worked on the ceremony?
And they're like no, he's doingit.
I was like well, what is heusing?
Where's he getting the ceremonyfrom?
Oh well, okay, so basicallyit's not done.
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And I was like do you need meto give you some ceremonies that
you can pass along to him forhim to start with, like is that
foundation?
And they're like yes, yes, wewant that.
I was like okay, great.
So I went to go get theceremonies.
I have I've got like a civilceremony and a spiritual one and
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a community-based one.
So I was getting ready to sendthis all to them.
I was like you know what?
I wonder if I could run some ofthese through chat GBT and like
kind of pre-customize them forthis couple.
So what I did was I went overto chat GBT and I said to chat
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GBT, good evening.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Oh, you're nice,
You're all right, I'm like that
nice person.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I know I'm talking to
a machine, but for some reason
it seems appropriate.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I'm like that with
Alexa.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, I'malways very nice to her.
Okay, go ahead so.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I said I would like
for you to create a ceremony
script for me, but before I do,I want you to ask me 10 or 15
questions that are going to behelpful for you to write the
best script for this couple thatis getting married.
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Good, and so then chat GBTresponse back to me.
I would love to do that for you, kelly, and here are 10
questions that would be helpfulfor me to create a ceremony.
So it went and it gives me 10questions.
It asked me the couple's name.
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It asked me where they'regetting married.
It asked me if I wanted to be ahuman or script or something
very spiritual.
It asked me, like are there anycultural things that we want to
include?
I could not believe.
It was really smart questions,yes.
So I didn't know all theanswers, so I just gave back
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what answers I did know At themoment, because I figured I
could pass this along to themand then let their officiant,
like, move on forward.
But at least this would be alittle better than just the ones
I swiped off the internet, youknow.
And so I filled that all in andthen I pushed send and it set
me back the loveliest scriptthat I and I was blown away.
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I was blown away.
Now there were some cheesymoments in this and this is
where I feel like could you gowith just this AI generated
script start to finish?
You could, but you woulddefinitely be able to tell that
this was somehow generated.
It just, it felt personalized,but not emotional, not
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sentimental, I guess, rightright.
So I think in an instance likethis, you take that script
that's been somewhatpersonalized, pass it on and
then further customize it withmore stories and you things to
make it.
But it's what it did was thatit allowed me to create
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something.
Take something very blah andbland like basic outline for
ceremony, and I mean basic andturn it into something that was
somewhat custom for the coupleand then give that to the
officiant, who can reallycustomize for the people that
are sitting in the audience andlistening and for the couple to
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respond to, and I was like itprobably.
I mean it saved hours with thetime and thought of things that
I didn't think to incorporate inthe ceremony, which I loved,
you know.
So I thought that was onereally great idea.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And that's a perfect
example of like do you using AI
only versus using a human right.
You, as their wedding planner,had somewhere to start.
You had your own stuff in yourarchives from the decades of
experience you have and said youknow what, I know, the perfect
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opportunity to make this evenbetter before I send it over to
my clients, right?
So just like the perfectexample for this like human
versus you know AI only orwhatever, like it still stems
from humans who have thisnatural talent and these years
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of experience and by using it asa tool to make it even better.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yes, yes.
And furthermore, it's going toget passed to someone who really
can add those touches that aregoing to take it to the next
level where they may not havebeen able to before.
Like I feel like if someoneopens it now, they can be like
oh I know what else I can add tothis, because they didn't have
to think of these small piecesthat were added to it by chat
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GBT.
So, yeah, I think there's oh mygosh, if I knew enough about
the couple, like their wholelife story which I did not, and
you know personal things I coulddo it all myself, but there's
no way.
And I think that this givesthem the opportunity and they're
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efficient or celebrate theopportunity to really make
something truly so significantmoving forward.
What else do you think that wecould use it for, or that people
could consider using chat GBTfor?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Well, there's a
couple of.
So there is a really coolresource called destinationsai,
and this is really cool for,like, I hear from a lot of
people saying oh, I wanna planmy batch party, right, like
where I wanna plan my friend'sbatch party, but we're having
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trouble figuring out whereshould we go.
We know we have to do it in,let's say, march.
Where should we go?
That the ideal temperature isgonna be, you know, between,
let's say, 70 and, you know, 85degrees, and there's very little
chance of rain and snow, andthis is perfect, okay.
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So it's destinationsai and itliterally asks you where are you
traveling, from what month?
You know, what do you want thetemperature to be?
What are your activities?
So I put food, hotels, travel,I put nightlife and what is the
flight preference, like maximumhours, I put three and I Wow,
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these are great questions.
You can quite or quick quite,and then I'm just gonna hit
search and it's gonna come upwith all of these places.
There's not a lot.
I don't know why these are gray.
There's a couple of Florida's.
But bottom line is this is anawesome free tool that you can
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use for travel or even play,like your honeymoon, like where
should we go?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
You said it was
destinations with the S on the
endai.
Okay, yes yeah, everyone listento that for your feedback.
We'll make sure it's in thisshow notes.
Well, I say we should, we'llmake sure, but even my podcast,
the show notes, are done throughAI, like it's built into the
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system, so I don't even have towrite those anymore, and that's
new in the last few months.
So AI has come around.
You know what it's everywhere.
Before I forget, you know whereelse this can be used for?
Did you say the beginning,imitations and stationing?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yes, I mean chat.
Gpt is great for writingwording, for invitations, for
your wedding website, for savethe dates, for you know how do I
, how do I tell people that Iwant them to wear only you know
black or navy blue or you knowearth tones or whatever it is
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right I mean for any of that.
And then you and I just lovethat you could be like, okay,
that's pretty good, but make ita little bit more fun and
playful.
And then they're like it'llregenerate, you know.
So, yes, anything writingrelated Also, you can have it
make.
I know there's ways of havingit make help you make, like, if
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you're traveling, like plans ofwhat to do when you're traveling
Itineraries, yes, which youcould also run that through,
like if you have an itineraryfor the wedding day or not, like
your full timeline or maybe thewedding weekend.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You know, you could
give chat GBT your basic
itinerary and say I would likeyou to take this basic itinerary
and somehow make it so thatit's, you know, written on a
third grade level.
So you know, because that'swhere everyone's like that's
supposed to be like thereadability factor across the
board when you're going publicor something.
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It's supposed to be like thirdgrade level or something like
that, and so you can give it,like you want to be humorous,
just like you said, orlighthearted, or whimsical, and
give it just the few promptsthat you wanted to do, and it
will do all that for you.
Oh, and I heard this or sawthis on Instagram the other day
Now AI is built into Canva, oryou can-.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yes, which is amazing
.
So if you are making some ofyour own pieces, you can use AI
within Canva to help you to comeup with these things and make
them beautiful.
Yeah, a whole bunch of.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Kajabi's using it too
.
I use Kajabi for my digitalcourses.
It has AI tools.
Now All of these big platformsare coming up with the AI plugin
, which is lovely.
I have another one that'sreally interesting and I'm
playing around with it as we'retalking.
It's called taskaidcomT-A-S-K-A-D-E.
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Taskaid basically helps youbuild lists and projects and
such, but if you go totaskaidcom and you click on
templates this is how I'm doingit and then you go into the
search.
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When you click in templates, gointo the search and type in
wedding.
I got to look at it.
But when you scroll down itwill come up with a wedding
planner checklist.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I mean, that's great.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So this is just a
very basic what to do to plan
your wedding.
Now I've also done this in chatGPT.
I told chat GPT, can you createa wedding planning timeline for
me for one year out?
It did.
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It quickly spit out all thestuff.
But here's where I'm saying thehuman touch is better.
It will give you a very generic18 months, set your wedding
budget, create a rough guestlist all that, which is better
than nothing.
But it's not going to give youthe detailed stuff that you're
going to get from McKellieMcWilliams or Michelle Martinez,
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like a human who has beenplanning weddings forever.
But it's a great starting point.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, I think it's
great, for it's a tool.
We just have to keep comingback to that.
It's a tool and I think, inthat same vein, we have to be
careful that when it does giveus that information back, I
don't think it's evolved enoughor knows enough yet for you to
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feel comfortable that what it'sgiven you is complete in any
stretch of the imagination.
So, and because, like, yourvenue might make things
different, because it might say,go to the church, well, if
you're getting me in the beach,it doesn't make any sense, you
know.
So there's going to be thingswhere, yes, it may put things
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together for you, but you'restill going to have to have that
additional effort made.
It might be great that it'syou're using this to like, maybe
hand off to someone that'shelping you with the wedding as
a professional, like, let's say,you, oh, like questions you
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could, you know, I bet you youcould say what kinds of
questions should I ask my DJbefore hiring them?
You know, like, just to giveyou some ideas, you know that's
I don't know if it has that kindof thing on taskaidcom, but in
the checklist I feel like, yes,we should be using it for those
things.
However, when possible, alsohave a professional read through
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these things with you.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It's kind of like a
middleman, but not really.
It's a tool.
It's going to help you along.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I mean, you can use
chat GPT also to come up with a
playlist of songs.
Really, does it know music?
Yes, I'm doing it right now.
I didn't know that it gives youall kinds.
I just literally, and I couldmake it more specific, but I
just said help me, come up witha list of songs to play at a
wedding.
Boom, I've got four differentsongs for the ceremony.
Actually, sick Eight Get out oftown.
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Cocktail hour and dinner easylistening jazz swing, acoustic
folk, first dance, some firstdance recommendation.
This is great.
Yes, it's good.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
So here's how I would
say we're going to do this
versus that on it, or let's say,pro versus con.
I would go to chat GPT to startand to give us a list, because
it is hard to think of songsLike it's really there's so many
songs out there.
So if it came to you and gaveyou a list and then you use that
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to narrow down to like somesongs that you like, really kind
of liked, and then took that toyour DJ and said, hey, we've
kind of got this list of songsthat we think that we might
enjoy, but could you look at itand then, using this as a base,
build a good playlist for us?
You know, so, you know, soyou're again.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
The DJ might say you
know what?
This is a great one.
But this is not.
Let me tell you why.
But here's an alternative in myexperience.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Exactly that.
Exactly that I feel like withall of your wedding day
stationery that you need andwant to come up with.
That's you know most of.
If you're ordering online, alot of it's going to be out
there for you, but you can askit for additional ideas, like
what's another way to say youknow, regret, sore accepts, and
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so you know just you know cutelittle sayings like that that I
think we go searching on Etsyand Pinterest and Google images
for, and this might just be aquicker, easier way to do it.
I think I would like to justgive some people I hate to say
it to warn you about some things, but there are definitely.
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Here's what we're starting tosee out in the wedding world is
that we're starting to seeimages that were created by AI.
That cannot actually happen.
You cannot have a wedding in acave, where the what are these
things called?
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Where it drips into theformation.
Can you think of what that'scalled, michelle?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I think it drips into
the Icycles.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
No, they look like
icicles, but okay, now we're
not-.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
They're like
dangerous right.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
But like there was
one.
There was something thatsomeone created on AI, probably
through mid-journey what youwere talking about where it was
this beautiful serum or weddingreception in a cave and those
dribble like icicle things wereall glowing and there were
candles and mirrors and all theyeah that you can't do that Like
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, that doesn't exist in theworld, but these images make it
look real and so if they can dosomething that crazy and insane
with a cave picture, imagine howeasy it is for you to be not
fooled by seeing a picture of areception where flowers seem to
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be floating above the table.
Okay, there's not a place inthe world where we can make
flowers float without them beingattached to something, but
these pictures can be made nowwhere it looks like that's
happening or- so you're, are yousaying that a lot of wedding
professionals could put theseimages on their website and be
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like I created that, I made it.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I know how to do that
.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
And I'm going to
charge you a lot because look
what I can do.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
And it's not true.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's not true, and
not even just that, but like
maybe someone's just making itfor inspiration.
Like we used to do thingscalled inspiration shoots or
styled shoots, and we would goand we would get all the things
and set up a table and make itbeautiful for like eight people,
and it would be, most of thetime, really over the top, very
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extravagant, and what we learnedfrom it was that, yes, this
works well for eight people, butwhen you try to do that for 150
, a lot of times things are onthat table, aren't available in
counts of 150 or they're goingto be like $3,000 a table
because everything on there isso elite and so over the top.
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So it's kind of like thatbattle that we need to be
looking towards.
So we just.
I just want to say that noteverything on the internet any
longer Is it even real orpossible, because it is designed
by a machine.
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It's artificial, artificialintelligence.
Yes, the last thing, and I wantto hear your opinion on this I
did an Instagram live with awedding photographer, what
Cooney from Sean and Jordanphotography and Curtis Kennedy
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from Curtis Kennedy films, andwe were on live on Instagram I
think it was last Monday and ourtalk was about AI, and Is it
appropriate to use AI with yourwedding pictures, to turn them
into videos or To change thingsin image images like you can use
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AI now to, and I have a link.
I don't it's on Instagramsomewhere, but I'll share it
with you, michelle.
I don't even want to introduceit to everyone because it's got
a long way to go, but it isclearly there that it's going to
get better.
So, basically, I was talking toanother wedding planner and she
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was saying she didn't have anyvideo from a wedding and said
you know what?
I just saw this thing onInstagram where you could change
a still image into a movingvideo and I said let me find the
link.
I found the link, she took it,she put it in, she and she says
you aren't gonna believe this,so she sent it to me.
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The image was of a still image.
It was a bride Walking down, orwho's.
The image was of her, like,walking down the hallway,
because she's not moving.
It's an image, a still image.
She pushed the button to likegenerate it and now it's a video
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of this bride in this dressWalking down the hallway,
dressed, flowing in the breeze,like what is happening right now
in like a 10-second video.
Did they were able to createfrom this?
Now, is it right?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
because you know
that's.
I don't know if it's right, butit does.
My dad did that.
He was my grandmother, whopassed away a long, long time
ago.
He took a photo of her in heryouth and there was some.
This was before this wasavailable.
I don't know how we did it onsome, I don't know what, but he
posted on what's up and it's herlike Moving around and talking
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and she's like 20 somethingyears old and all of us are like
creeped out, but also yeah.
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
It's very weird, but
here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Perspective.
I don't know if that's.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I don't know, yes, so
here's.
Here's the thing.
I can see why people would wantto do it.
Um, maybe you didn't give videoor you just think it's cool.
You know, for one reason oranother, even though you, your
photographer may have given yourights to the images to
reproduce, that is for print,and this is a very new thing.
(32:19):
And when you, when you, if youever find one of these links and
you put it through, you'regonna see that, like there's
times where, like it changes thewhole face, like it's got like
a Barbie elbow and like there'sSeven fingers on one hand.
So it's not, it's not caught upyet, but it will eventually
right.
Consider that you have acontract with your photographer
(32:44):
and those images are they'vegiven you some kind of release
for it, but it isn't necessarilya release to change the product
that they've given you.
So Before you do anything likethat, it's probably best at this
point to at least reach out tothem and say, hey, I thought
(33:05):
this might make a cute littlevideo, would you mind?
And let them say, yeah, I don'tmind at all.
If you don't mind just sayingthe cover image was you know by
me?
Like, give me the photo credit.
But also consider that if youdo this, it could also look like
your videographer made it andit's not good.
(33:25):
So if you had a videographerand you change the photo, the
video and you put it out thereon your you know, your your
Instagram or your Facebook orwhatever, being like oh look how
cute and it does, it could makethe professional look bad.
I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, I mean I guess
it could, but I would also argue
, like the majority of thepeople that are might be posting
something like that what kindof Instagram following do they
have?
And I Do, it's also my life,like, if it's me, and I'm like,
well, it's my freaking face andI'm making it move, like what's
(34:03):
the problem?
You know what I mean.
Like, unless it's do it's somehorrible.
Unless it makes the video looklike shoddy work.
I mean, I can send them goinglike that's not my level of you
know, standards, okay, sure,yeah, but at some point I don't
know, kelly, like at some point,the people got to stop fighting
(34:24):
.
This, like this is happening.
Well, that's insane.
I'm saying when you said thatit also I mean I want to get too
off topic here because I knowwe're going over but at some
point there's gonna be imagesand videos of Even, like, famous
people that aren't real therealready are, yeah, and at some
point, these images and videosof people who are very famous, I
(34:45):
don't even think they're gonnabe worth anything anymore the
way they are now.
You know, it might counteractthe horrible ness that the
paparazzi, the, the horribleexperiences they're creating for
celebrities, because, yeah,everybody's gonna be a celebrity
, because Everybody, they'rejust gonna be making crap up
about these people of images,videos, all of it.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
It's just a trip,
it's so yeah, well, I think I
think my point is that, justthat, if it comes across your
mind to do make any of these, touse AI to transform anything
that your photographer orvideographer has given you, I
would think it would be and Goodtaste to reach out to them
(35:28):
before absolutely and say is itokay for?
me to do this, you know, to Tosomewhat transform what you've
given me, I think.
I think we're at a day and agewhere we out, we it's not going
away.
It's only that these things areonly gonna get better.
And you know what I'm not.
I'm not necessarily againsteverything like I really like
(35:52):
and appreciate what AI.
Ai is doing for me in mybusiness right now and what like
the fact that I'm able to givethis couple, so somewhere, a
little bit better.
To start, with because I mean,does that save them an hour and
it leads they're efficient intoa better direction of creating a
better Script for them.
Then, hooray, everyone's awinner.
(36:13):
So, yeah, yeah, michelle's oranything else?
that you can think of that we weshould bring up.
When it comes to AI we talked,I wonder, you know what.
I wonder if that task aid hasanything or if there's anything
that's out there, for there'sprobably so many resources.
I think you can probably Googleit, but there's probably things
(36:34):
that you know to help you workwith your like RSVP lists and
spreadsheets and things likethat, timings For transportation
.
You know, like pick up at thistime, drop up at this time.
How much time do we need to putin between?
Like things like that that aregonna allow you to skip 10 steps
(36:57):
on Google Piecing thingstogether, where you can just go
to this one location and get allthe answers you need.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I Mean, I'm sure
there are, but I think that you
know it's gonna take the skillto know what it is that you need
and how to ask for it.
And then, once it does spitthat out, is it actually good,
like, is it relevant, will itwork?
Yeah, you know, when you and Icreate a transportation schedule
, again it's coming from usknowing oh, you know, that is a
(37:25):
you know 57 passenger bus andit's not going to be able to
make that curve.
Or that, exactly that lower thanwhat Google Maps is saying or
you know whatever it is like.
We have that knowledge and sothat you know, it's, I feel like
, at this point in time, as weare recording this, in 2023,
(37:45):
hello future.
There's certain.
You know Limits and it stilldoesn't beat the, the human
knowledge, but I fully agreetotally yes.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yes, absolutely yeah.
So I think we're.
I think, in the end, what we'resaying is yes to Incorporating
AI and, yeah, gbt, into helpingyou in your planning, but
absolutely you need to stilltruly rely on the human element,
(38:22):
rely on the experts that youhave at your fingertips to
either start that conversationwith AI or take what you found
and push it forward.
But I think that, especially ifsomeone who's doing a lot of
the writing on their own, or,like I love what you said about
(38:44):
the email, like you know, helpme write this email so that I
don't like make Aunt Mary cry.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
But I need her to
know that she cannot bring.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
And also, just like
as you're going, like I was just
thinking about, I've hadlisteners of the podcast say you
know we don't want dancing, forexample, at the wedding.
What are some other little likefun, you know, micro events,
things we can incorporate intothe wedding aside from dancing?
I bet you could probably askchat, gpt, things like that.
I haven't tried that.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Oh, I'm sure you
could.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
But I mean those kind
of one off like like hmm, let
me just go.
When you're really not sure,you could just go type it in a
chat, gpt, and ask, and theremight be some like oh my God, I
didn't even think about that,that's a good idea.
Or, you know, find me, you knowresources for this.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yes, yes, you said
something that made me think.
Oh, you said something aboutyour podcast.
So I know you've been on theshow like 18 times, which is
probably like three.
But remind everyone about yourshow, but then also tell them
you have this new thing, which?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I think is so cool.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I'm very excited, so
I want to tell everyone about
that.
I'm excited too, because Ithink it's marvelous to tell
them about your podcast and thentell them about this great new
thing, and I think you have somespecial news for everyone.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
I do have some
special news.
Okay, so I, I, the big weddingplanning podcast is my podcast
and Kelly's been on also many,many times.
Love having Kelly on thepodcast.
It's for anyone involved inplanning a wedding.
The majority are people outthere planning their weddings,
right?
So the big wedding planningpodcast has been around for
(40:25):
almost seven years now over 350,I think I'm a three, three
episode 367.
I don't know at this point.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
It's a lot, oh my
gosh.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
It's a lot and out of
that was born you know a lot.
So it's a subscription basedpodcast.
Mine is not a fully freepodcast like yours is.
After six years I switched itover because mama needs to make
a living and she is, you know,giving it's it's.
It's a very like every episodeis has got an amazing takeaway
(40:55):
and help to plan your wedding.
And with over 350 episodes, you, I mean I've heard from people
all over the world say at theplan their weddings using my
podcast.
So there you go, boom, I'mgoing to be a part of that.
I have created, you know, andit's a little inspired by AI, I
have to say it.
But, um, really way to well,yeah, because I can't physically
, I can't plan everybody'sweddings from where I am,
(41:18):
because people listen to me fromall over the world, right?
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
So I've come up with
a way that I can help people
plan their weddings on a one onone.
It's like a coaching program,but it's only three months.
So the beautiful thing about itis, if people are brand new to
planning, I could just get themall set up and started using all
my tools, like thosespreadsheets and the guest list
and the wording and the ideasall of it, um, or if they're
(41:45):
already been planning, I couldget it.
I could just jump right in andbe like, hmm, let's clean this
up, honey, like that's okay, letme get you on the right track,
and it's wonderful.
And the other thing I hear fromlisteners all the time and this
is not about you, because, bythe way, people who buy this
coaching program are not goingto hire Kelly McWilliams to plan
their weddings because it is abudget friendly.
(42:06):
People who are DIY and planningtheir own weddings cannot afford
a Kelly McWilliams Um.
But it is a three month programand help.
So they get a seven planningsessions with me, they get all
my tools, they get full accessto my digital course on how to
plan your wedding and they get aone on one like uh
communication with me.
I use Voxer and it's like, oh,it's like a hotline, so anytime
(42:30):
of day or night they can messageme and be like Michelle, oh, my
God, guess what my aunt justdid?
Or hey, I need your help.
I'm trying to figure out if Ishould hire this vendor.
Here's what they said.
What do you think?
Um, whatever it is, they canmessage me within those three
months and I'm respondingdirectly back to them.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
So it is.
I love that you called Voxerhotline.
That is the most appropriateword for that app.
I'm like writing it down.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
I mean I'm not
writing it down, I mean I was
using Voxer for my traditionalwedding planning with my clients
already and but because I getso many of my listeners saying I
don't know what to do.
My, I haven't heard back fromthis vendor in over a week.
She's avoiding my question.
I don't even know if she got myemail.
She won't respond to my textmessages because that wedding
(43:19):
professional is in the heat ofwedding season and over their
heads and work and they cannotrespond.
So this is offering that youknow wedding planning sidekick
kind of help.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
So that's what it is,
so.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I am offering your
listeners a discount on my one
on one coaching program.
It's a hundred and fifty dollardiscount.
A hundred and fifty dollars off.
A hundred and fifty dollars offusing the code.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Let me just say I
want to say because I know
you're not going to say yourself, michelle, if you're new to her
podcast, for you know which?
You know everyone gets marriedand we have new people in here
all the time.
Before she had this podcast,she was a wedding planner.
She knows all the things.
So this isn't someone who juststarted talking about weddings
(44:09):
one day and had a podcast.
This is someone like I can tellyou, if you don't have a
planner on your side orcoordinator, this is amazing
that you would be able to havethis from someone of her
experience and expertise Likeamazing.
So I just wanted to put thatout there.
(44:30):
I understand that it's not justsome ply by my person, who you
know.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
No, and it is a real
deal.
You're the real deal, one onone you.
Thank you, kelly, I appreciatethat coming from you.
Thank you, yeah, so if you goto the big wedding planning
podcastcom, there will be a linkthere to the one on one
coaching.
And if you use code TVT150,that's like this versus that
(45:00):
TVT150, you get $150 off and$150 buys a lot of Pina Coladas
on your honeymoon.
This is very true, right, orApparel spritz, or you know
whatever floats your boat.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Espresso martinis.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Oh, that's my
favorite right now Espresso
martinis.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
I love it, it's like
so trendy.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I just said a whole
Instagram.
Look at this.
We're like running.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
we're just chit
chatting now.
We always do.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
But yeah, I just said
an Instagram story or feed or
something, whatever they'recalled, where it just goes in
the regular school or.
Thing.
I'm really not good with thesewords Post.
Post About cocktails, like thesignature cocktails that are
super hot right now becausethey're there and there's some
really good ones Like I likealmost all of them, so you guys
(45:57):
can check that out at any time.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Michelle, thank you
so much.
We were talking about that lasttime you were on my pod.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Oh did we, oh, we did
, yeah, we did, yeah, yeah, that
would I really love yourpodcast.
I think it's a really great one.
So, yes, so you're going totune into the big wedding
planning podcast.
You have to subscribe to get tothe good stuff because just so
they just when you get sucked inin the episode and I listened
(46:23):
to this and it cuts me off it'slike what, is it like 10 minutes
or 15 minutes?
In that it does that, michelle.
It's like 15 to 20 minutes, justwhen you get to the good stuff,
just when you get to good stuff, and then so when I can tell
you is that these episodes areso good they're worth
subscribing to.
I mean, you're only going to bemarried, like getting married
(46:46):
for so much time, so it's asmall investment for like big,
big, big, big return.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
So yeah, you do you
have yes and and Kelly also.
You have a discount on my subs.
Anybody that wants to subscribefor the annual annual
subscription is $99.
Oh my gosh, it's so good.
So for a whole year to thepodcast, but Kelly.
Kelly's listeners get a 15% offdiscount, and that is Kelly 23.
(47:14):
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Speaker 1 (47:20):
Yes, and you can
never have enough wedding
planning podcasts.
I mean everyone.
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Michelle thank you so
much.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Actually, we just see
yours in mine.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
That's my wedding.
Oh my God, thank you for havingme on again.
This was fun, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
You're going to come
back again.
I feel like we could do onemore All right.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Okay, Good night girl
.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Good night, bye.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
I'm so glad to be
able to share my wedding
experiences and expertise withyou, and that my co-hosts are so
giving it theirs.
We truly do want you to havethe best time at your wedding,
and our hope is that thispodcast is helping you to make
your engagement time whileplanning your wedding that much
easier.
May I ask a favor of you?
If this is the case, would youjust take a moment to leave a
(48:10):
review of this podcast on yourlistening platform?
It helps people just like youto find the podcast and to also
find out their answer so theycan make decisions.
I would also absolutely lovefor you to give this versus that
podcast a shout out on yoursocial media.
You can find us at this versusthat wedding podcast on
(48:33):
Instagram, and if you would likeme to help you with a specific
question a wedding decisionplease by all means ask.
Send me a DM.
I would love to hear from youand maybe, just maybe even have
you as a wedding cast on afuture episode.
How fun.
Here's to another great wedding.