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January 25, 2024 โ€ข 20 mins

Venture with us to the windswept Californian coast where the spectral remnants of the Invernus shipwreck whisper tales of a bygone era. As we recount the ship's transformation from a thriving fishing vessel to its current status as a photographer's dream and a tourist hotspot, we unravel the enigmatic charm of decrepit maritime relics. But it's not all about eerie aesthetics; we also wade into the waters of boat ownership, reflecting on the liberating yet demanding nature of maintaining these vessels, often with personal sacrifices waiting in the wake.

Switching currents, we examine the heart-tugging dilemma presented by Ariel, the six-legged spaniel whose extra limbs put us at a moral crossroads. Through candid discussion, we dissect the ethical quandaries tied to medical decisions for our pets, where the line between preserving uniqueness and ensuring their quality of life becomes blurred. So, join us as we navigate these complex waters, inviting you to ponder the weighty choices pet owners face, all while sharing our own perspectives on this multifaceted issue.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
The boat was built in the 1940s and was used for
transportation and fishingbefore it was abandoned years
ago.
It was abandoned because it washaunted, I think.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Maybe, or maybe because it's in a thousand
pieces.
Yeah, ั‚ั€ัƒะด Boats.

(00:42):
Wait, what'd you say?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
How do you feel about boats?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
I Got the pleasure of riding in one for the first
time a few years ago.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Do they make your heart?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
pound, I Mean they do give me joy and the reason why
joy, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, let me.
Let me explain a little bit.
The reason why they give me joyis because I love the water.
I'm kind of like a beach bomb,so I Love the ocean, love the
lake.
Anytime I can spend time on thewater, it just makes me happy.
So, like being out on a boat,it's a good day, especially if

(01:22):
it's sunny out and it's nice out.
It's, it's fun.
Would I want to own a boat?
No, why not?
Too much maintenance you arescared is definitely a lot of
maintenance.
The people that own boats, theyhave lost wives and things of
that because they spend a lot oftime.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, you don't have a wife.
If you have a boat, probably Idon't think it's a great idea
because you're spending.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
I've seen people almost Sacrificed, like losing
half of their families becauseOf a boat, of a boat, and
spending way too much time doingthe maintenance on it, because
a boat is kind of like a puppyand the fact that you have to
take care of it 24 7.
Yeah, I get that.
Yeah, so it's constant.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I found about.
I found an article about thisboat.
All right, shoot, let me seewhat you got.
Dude, it's called Hang on asecond.
You scrolling, scrolling,scrolling scrolling time running
out for a landmark old boatthat became a California social
media star.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Okay, an old boat that became a social.
Let's check this out.
Okay, the pictures epic.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, that's just like part of a house that was
destroyed there's more than onepicture.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
If you hit the arrow on the right, yeah, the initial
picture is Pretty.
Here's my thing when I see thispicture of the boat.
And if you want to see this APnews comm slash oddities, the
boat looks like a hold my beerpicture, like somebody was like

(03:03):
hold my beer, watch me do this.
The actual picture that theyhave is a wreck.
This thing is shredded.
I mean, the front is stillintact, kind of.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
It looks like it should have been on the walking.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
I mean, it looks pretty epic.
You know you could, speaking ofwhich, if you wanted to shoot a
movie or something at the boatthat'd be a great set.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I'd be surprised if there wasn't something already
Like I feel like that'ssomething you would see on Lost
yeah, like that's insane,something apocalyptic.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
All right, so tell us about this boat man, what
happened?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Okay, I'll just jump in and read it, cause I mean,
yeah, time is apparently runningout for California's Invernus
shipwreck.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Inverse Invernus I thought it was inverse or
something Like yeah, there is noS, so Invernus, I don't know if
that's a typo or not.
Maybe it no, maybe not.
Maybe it's something we don'tunderstand.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I don't know, an old wooden boat that became an
Instagram stars, that rotted ona shoreline north of San
Francisco.
Recent storms have made ashambles of the four Lauren
vessels named Point Reyes whichwas already deteriorated from
the overattention of visitors tothe Marin County coast.
San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Bay reported.
Maybe that's the name of thearea, because it says Invernus,
California.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Oh well, there you go .

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Maybe that's the name of the area, okay.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I didn't get there yet.
No, no, no At the top of thatparagraph you just read.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
It says Invernus California, so maybe that's the
area they're talking about.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Why are you stupid Paige?
I'm sorry I'm having troublewith my arrow.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, you have to use the mouse bro.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Cause, it's not letting you.
Well, my computer keeps lagging, so I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
It did it to me too.
I think it's just that page.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
The National Park Service is aware that additional
damage occurred to the vesselas a result of the most recent
storms and tides.
Point Reyes National Seashoreofficials, officials, officials,
officials.
Sent a statement to the SF Gatenews site.
While we recognized that thisis a local land mark, now it
just moved all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Oh, yeah, it's something's going on.
If you want to go check thispage out, there's something
paranormal going on with thispage.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I don't understand what's going on.
They're just messing with itright now, or something.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
They did the same thing to my computer.
Did that to you too.
Yeah, I'm not dealing with one.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Okay, good, I was starting to think my computer
was taking a crap or something.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I'm telling you, it did it to me too Good.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well, not good, but you know what I mean.
While we recognize that this isa local land mark and
destination, the NPS isevaluating options to remove it
safely.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
OK.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
The boat was built in the 1940s and was used for
transportation and fishingbefore it was abandoned years
ago.
It was abandoned because it washaunted, I think.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Maybe, or maybe because it's in a thousand
pieces.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, ground near the community of Invernus on a
section of the Tamales TamalesBay shoreline.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Hot.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Tamales Bay shoreline that is part of the Point Reyes
National Seashore.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
So yeah, it is the area of Invernus.
It sounds like it should beinverse, right.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking initially when I
first looked out.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
I'm sure that town has heard that joke more than
once.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
That it then became a tourist draw on darling of
social media.
Instagram alone has more than5,500 images of the Point Reyes.
Now the scene that caught theeyes of so many photographers is
just about gone.
Jim Fox, chief of the localfire department, told the
Chronicle that the boat is adangerous nuisance.
Of course, it's much moredangerous than it used to be, he

(06:48):
said.
As the fire chief, I would justas soon people not come out
here because someone's going toget hurt.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
You know what that is ?
That?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
is it's?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
not a fad anymore, so we got to get rid of it, yeah,
it's like.
Come on, bro, Like what is that, and then I got this question.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
How do you have people left and right Like, well
, you can't do nothing becausewe think it's hazardous, or
whatever Like let a kid be a kidman, yeah, and my thing is, you
know, this generation hasgotten too soft.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
We used to hang around dangerous stuff like this
all the time we were just fine.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I used to jump off like 20 foot rocks just because
man.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Well, any kind of old wrecks or abandoned areas you
talked about when you were a kid, that was the coolest thing
ever.
Because I know, dude, I wouldlove to go.
Just for instance, we didn'thave cell phones or computers
back then, so we would literallyjust go out on adventures.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Dude, I would literally adventure in the woods
Like our friends and I would dothe same thing.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Nothing happened to us.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
We never fell in trees, we never got eaten by
wild animals.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
We never got.
You know nothing ever happenedto us.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
They worry way too much now, I think you need to.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I think you need to let people live life, and one of
the things about living life ishaving adventures.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Can an adult.
Let that be on them.
They want to risk going to thehospital, so what?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I mean and hold on.
It's an abandoned boat.
But let's be honest, if woodfell on them from that what we
just saw, that shipwreck I doubtit would hurt very much Like
it's probably it's very close tothe ground.
The center the center cabin isif it fell apart.
I doubt anything like maybethis part.

(08:32):
But see, there's no roof.
There's not even a roof there.
Like you would be fine, I,maybe you could get cut from the
wood, but that's about it.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
And if they really wanted it, removed all that.
It is be like, hey people, thiswas free to spoke free.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Also take it also.
People can injure themselves ona completely safe playground.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Tripping over myself.
Yeah, you're then.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, see they have.
They have pictures checking out.
I would love that as a kid.
Are you kidding me?
An old, abandoned shipwreck?
Yeah, you could totally justhave fun with that.
So I get why they want toremove it.
It's becoming a hazard, blah,blah, blah.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
But it's just you know.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, and you're gonna have the ocean come in,
looks like and it's gonna getwater.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
It's gonna get removed.
What really I?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Feel like the ocean or whatever's behind it, it
would come in and wash it out.
Anyway it'd be gone.
So I don't know, I thinkthey're just making a Big thing
out of mountains, animal hills,yeah, exactly I.
Just they're making a big thingout of nothing.
I think if I was a kid I wouldlove to just play around it,
just to be like hey, this is thescene to our movie we're in a

(09:44):
shipwreck, like you know what Imean, like They'd be sick and my
dad and I built stuff all thetime and, yes, of course we got
nails and cuts and it's aboutscrapes all the time You're not
gonna die like cheese anyway.
That's my feelings on it.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's us been about it.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
He's like why don't you just tell us how you really
feel?
Yeah, but the picture does lookcool.
I don't know why there would be5,500 images of it.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
That's a lot dude.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
That's a lot for one boat like you really need that
many images and there's not muchto the boat.
It's pretty small shipwreckguys.
This is not like one of thoseTitanic style now.
There's four pictures, youcould have an argument if it was
a big.
If it was a cruise line if itwas a big vessel?
Yes, that is an argument youdon't want people this thing,

(10:38):
one of the small.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
It looks like a small fishing boat.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
That's what it looks like.
Yeah, come on man.
Come on, as Joe Biden says.
Come on man.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know, honestly, there's and I'm happy for our
you with me, but I'm like yousaid, I think they're just
making big stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I don't know this point with that boat.
I have another one for you.
Another one, another new story.
Oh, is that the one?
I think it is.
Oh yeah, the six-legged spaniel.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
We just had a little spat about.
The six-legged spaniel as awfulas the other him.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yes, we're going to create a civil war within our
community.
That's fine.
The six-legged spaniel undergosurgery to remove extra limbs
and adjust to life.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
On for pause now you heard, that right, a six-legged
six-legged dog.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Now the argument that we were discussing, which is a.
It's a great topic for debate.
I guarantee bring this up inyour car.
It's a great way to startarguments.
If you had a pet With mutations, would you get the mutations
removed?
Now, you already know myresponse there I do like

(11:54):
mutations.
Okay, that's not what I wassaying.
I wasn't saying that I don'tlike mutations.
I was saying it's possible thatthey could have got these
removed if it was hazardous tothe animal.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well, we don't know you.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
We don't know, we're gonna find out, but the the
other thing was, if it's notlike you know, the two-headed
fish and it's just a two-headedfish.
Yeah and there's no, it's notharmful to the animal.
That's cool, that's fine, I'mtotally fine with that, like.
But if the mutation, theyremoved it because it could
cause problems down the road,that's different, I think yeah,

(12:28):
in my opinion, and that was ourlittle.
I said I would love thatsix-legged dog.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I'd leave all six legs on it and be like.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Hey, look at this.
So what happened with this dog?
A dog with six legs that wasfound abandoned supermarket
parking lot, is adjusting tolife on four paws After extra
limbs were removed surgically.
London, a Spaniel born with sixlegs that was found abandoned

(12:57):
in a supermarket, is now likethe other dogs after having her
extra limbs Removed.
Ariel, who was named for thelittle mermaid.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Why would you name a dog after it was named after the
little mermaid?
I?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
don't know, maybe a kid named it, it says, because
the additional appendage withtwo paws on the other end look
like a flipper.
That's why they named it.
Ran through the grass outside aveterinarian hospital.
Hospital can't talk.
Saturday as she adjusted tolife on four legs.
She is doing brilliantly, saidVicki black, director of

(13:33):
Langford vets small animalreferral hospital, where she was
operated.
On Thursday this dog, who hadmultiple birth defects, was
found in the center of Pembroke,wales in September, right well
no Up by the UK.
Oh, england, ireland, scotland,wales, yeah, yeah, different

(13:54):
Wales different Wales Um spermwhales Pembroke, wales.
Green Acres rescued, took herin and raised funds for her
surgery.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Black said the hospital Okay, my screen just
jumped which is the part of theUniversity of Bristol, has had
never seen a six-legged dog orperformed such an operation.
Eric continue.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Ariel was a complicated little dog, black
said.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
We are a center committed to career long
Learning and are proud toinnovate and treat pets like
Ariel the extra legs extendedfrom the right Hindquarter and
appeared to be of no use,dangling beside her wagon tail
as you walked a bit awkwardly ina video shot before the
operation.
Oh, there it is.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
They didn't cause a walk weird, so they didn't,
didn't have any use and it wascausing her son have trouble
walking.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
It's basically.
We don't know for sure yet.
This is pretty well.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
They said it was dangling there no, it wasn't
like she was using the legs,I'll dangling beside, yeah.
On Saturday, as she wasdischarged, she took to the lawn
outside the hospital with aDetermination of a bird dog
knows to the ground and pullingon her leash just like any other
dog.
So she was rather happy.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Okay, but if it was just dangling and it didn't
affect her walk per se, was itreally necessary?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I.
They're saying she was muchhappier without it.
I don't know, I wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I know, see, that kind of bugs me.
It's been going to like deep.
Well, here's the video.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Let me see if we got.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
They must have been pretty small, though, because
there's aerial.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
That's her.
Yeah, we see.
I don't know I can't see it upclose.
They're not showing it up close.
This little section back herelooks awkward.

(15:59):
See where she's like.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Like those look.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, I mean right there, that might be a circle.
That might be it.
Yeah, it looks like she waskind of walking weird with it,
though it didn't look like itdidn't look like extra Legs, it
looked like a section thatshouldn't be there.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
But I mean, she was a super video.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
We didn't show the extra.
We didn't get anything out ofit, OK.
So the question remains if youhad a pet now ask this to your
friends If you had a pet withextra limbs, would you get them
removed or would you keep themon?
I'd keep, I don't know, I feellike.
If it would hinder the pet,that's where I draw the line.

(16:46):
If it's causing the pet pain ordiscomfort, that's where I'd
say, hey, time to get this done.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I dream of finding mutated animals.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
There you go, there you have it.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Jesse dreams of mutation.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
We need to find some more Mutate, mutated animals.
You take some.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
There are definitely some crazy mutations out there,
so yeah, I've heard about liketwo headed cows.
Yeah, and fish dogs and allkinds of craziness, so we'll
dive more into that next time Iget is going to be a mutation.
I somehow believe that he saidI believe that.
I somehow believe I'm going tolook for one.

(17:33):
He's just weird enough to do it.
All right, ladies and gentlemenfrom the WWV.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Thanks for watching with your ears.
Watch it.
Three, two, one.
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