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September 10, 2025 51 mins

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Most chronic pain isn't just physical—but it's driven by something much deeper...Join me and my guest, Dr. David Hanscom, to learn more about why your self-critical voice may be the hidden trigger behind your persistent pain, why a top spine surgeon walked away from the operating room, and how emotions like envy, gossip, compassion, and joy all play a surprising role in your body's healing. This is a conversation that could change the way you think about pain—and how to finally move beyond it. 

In this episode you'll learn:

⏰ 02:49 - Why Dr. David stopped doing back surgery 

⏰ 11:06 - Thousands of research papers point to the nervous system to resolve pain 

⏰ 20:06 - The self-critical voice (95% of us have it!) as a trigger for chronic pain 

⏰ 28:56 - Emotions, like envy, and acts, like gossip, that generate pain 

⏰ 36:10 - Compassion, altruism, peace, and joy as emotions to calm the nervous system. 

⏰ 39:08 - Connection, awareness and persistence are the key  

⏰ 45:49 - The ONE thing you can do to activate self-healing 

Check out Dr. David Hanscom's Bio:

David Hanscom, MD, practiced complex orthopedic spine surgery for 32 years. He quit his practice in Seattle, WA, to present his insights into solving chronic mental and physical pain. They evolved from his 15-year battle. He escaped from the ordeal and discovered that mental pain was the biggest issue. Anxiety is the pain. He is working on a new book addressing RUTs (repetitive unpleasant thoughts). He discovered they are solvable by addressing threat physiology and the cognitive component. 

His book, Back in Control: A Surgeon's Roadmap Out of Chronic Pain, systematically presents well-documented treatments for chronic pain. His self-directed action plan, which reflects many successful patients' journeys, is available at www.thedocjourney.com.

He launched a movement called "Dynamic Healing," which recognizes the interactions between stress and one's coping capacity, causing sustained threat physiology. Dealing with stress more effectively and increasing the resiliency of the nervous system allows healing. He is active as a speaker, author, and consultant. His work and resources can be accessed at www.backincontrol.com. 

Connect with Dr. David Hanscom:

Website: https://backincontrol.com/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drdavidhanscom 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drdavidhanscom/ 

X: https://x.com/DrDavidHanscom 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdavidhanscom/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/DrDavidHanscom 

 

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Hi there! I am Jane Hogan, the Wellness Engineer, and the host of Wellness By Design. I spent 30 years designing foundations for buildings until the pain and inflammation of rheumatoid arthritis led me to hang up my hard hat and follow my heart. Now I blend my backgrounds in science and spirituality to teach people how to tap into the power of their mind, body and soul. I help them release pain naturally so they can become the best version of themselves. 

Wellness By Design is a show dedicated to helping people achieve wellness not by reacting to the world around them but by intentionally designing a life based on what their own body needs. In this show we explore practices, methods and science that contribute to releasing pain and inflammation naturally.

Learn more at https://thewellnessengineer.com

Would you like to learn how to release pain by creating more peace and calm?  Download my free guided meditation audio bundle here: https://www.thewellnessengineer.com/audio-bundle 

Connect with Jane: 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JaneHoganHealth/

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