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June 25, 2025 100 mins

He’s trained the greatest All Blacks of the modern era, he's survived the pressure cooker of test rugby, and has done so for the past 18 years! Nic Gill, the legendary All Blacks trainer, sits down for one of the great yarns full of honesty, laughs, and elite-level insight.


In this episode we cover:

  • What makes him one of the most respected S&C coaches in world sport
  • His reaction when Razor took over — and if he thought he’d be staying on
  • Why he initially turned down the All Blacks job
  • The struggles of a young S&C coach, the sleep deprivation, the sacrifices — and the lessons learned from it.
  • What it was like when he firsat came into the All Blacks environment
  • Ma’a Nonu pulling down his pants and a $750 bet gone wrong
  • The heartbreak of RWC 2023 and what it’s like being that guy on the sideline
  • The fastest, strongest, fittest All Blacks
  • His best advice for up-and-coming S&Cs
  • And heaps more


If you’ve ever wanted a peek behind the curtain of the All Blacks machine — or what it takes to build and sustain excellence — this is it. One of the great men, with a stack of stories and a massive impact on NZ rugby. What a lad!


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