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What happens when 1,000 strangers compete for $5 million—with shame, strategy, and survival on the line?
In this episode of Wicked Psychotherapists, Erin and Tanya (two real-life therapists) break down the mind games of Mr. Beast’s Beast Games.
We dive into the psychology of trust, betrayal, group dynamics, and why money messes with our moral compass.
Spoilers ahead, insights guaranteed—and yes, we’re talking about the Lamborghini train dilemma.
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(00:08):
You are listening to WickedPsychotherapists, a podcast
where two psychotherapists showyou that taking care of and
learning about mental healthdoesn't have to be wicked hat.
Erin (00:31):
Hey guys, this is Tanya.
Hi, this is Erin and welcome toWicked Psychotherapist.
Tanya (00:35):
Yeah.
So today we are talking aboutsomething pretty, pretty new and
really fun on Amazon.
The Beast Games.
I don't know what it, I don't, Idon't know.
I think it's called, I thinkit's just Beast Games.
Beast Games, yeah.
But we, this is not somethingthat I knew about and I kind of
binge watched over the weekend,I found it very interesting.
We thought there'd be a lot ofkind of psychological dynamics
(00:58):
and just some, some things todiscuss
mm-hmm.
Erin (01:00):
In that, you know, because there is a lot of mental
warfare, I think in a lot ofthese.
Yeah.
A lot of psychological elements.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
so if you have not watched this,there are without a doubt going
to be spoilers because wewatched all 10, episodes.
So we're gonna be going rightdown even to the winner.
So keep that in mind.
(01:21):
Mm-hmm.
'cause we'll just be talkingabout it.
But yeah, I thought it wasreally interesting this, this
dynamic of having a thousandpeople come in who are complete
strangers to one another.
Except, I mean, some of them,you know, there are pairs of
friends and a married couplekind of here and there.
But for the most part, everybodyis a stranger to one another.
And knowing or not knowing whatthey have to do to get this pot
(01:44):
of 5 million at the end.
And only one person is going toget it.
but along the way you start torealize, well there's other
things that get offered and isit about taking this now or
thinking you can win the 5million along the way and just
offered in so many differentways.
that Mr.
Beast or Jimmy does.
I really thought, you know, thefirst episode with the, where
(02:06):
everybody is just in rows, theydon't know each other.
Right.
You know, with the exception,like I said before, but he, Mr.
Beast starts to offer up bribesto kind of say, Hey, if you take
this, you gotta eliminateyourself, but you can take this
money kind of thing.
Right.
How much would it take you to.
some people took it right,because that kind of makes
sense.
They probably played out thepracticality of like, what's the
(02:27):
actual, you know, stat that Iwould be able to, what are the
chances I would be able to getto be number one and why not
walk away with some money, youknow, and not have to really
compete too much I can just gohome with, you know, whatever,
20,000 or whatever it is.
I thought that was kind ofinteresting because I think some
people were like.
this is something not only tothink about for myself, but also
they didn't know these otherpeople.
(02:49):
along the way, the more and moreyou go along the episodes, they
become closer, right?
They're gonna naturally justbecome friends.
I think it was kind of easier tojust take the money because in
doing so, you would then.
Eliminate your row or you know,the chances of other people
around you.
And so maybe some people werelike, well that's, that's the
name of the game.
I don't really know thesepeople.
I don't really care.
(03:09):
I need this money.
how did you find the kind offirst part of this where
everybody's strangers, there'sofferings of money, To be like,
okay, you're eliminated, but youget this money guaranteed.
Yeah, so I mean like the way thewhole show started, even from
the very beginning when they'rejust in this huge room and
(03:30):
there's a thousand of'em, theyjust have these numbers on them.
It's kind of ominous too.
You're like, what is this show?
What is happening?
And you know, then you startseeing them drop and then, yeah,
then there's.
Different parts where they'reoffered him money as a group.
Like, Hey, you individual canget this and you save your
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group.
it really was a lot ofpsychological components because
you start thinking, what would Ido?
Or why are they choosing that?
Why are they not just taking themoney for themselves?
Because, you know, watchingother reality shows like
Survivor and other things, it'slike in the end it's just you.
(04:11):
You have to think about yourselfat times because these people
are strangers.
Even though you might be friendsand you might live in the be
city or whatever it is, but it,you all signed up for the same
reason.
You all signed up for the chanceto win$5 million.
These people are not reallyhaving your best interest, and
(04:31):
it's hard to see that whenyou're in it, and I'm sure that
played a huge part of it.
the dynamic of like individualneed versus group need, because
the more and more you bondwithin a group, the less you're
gonna think of just solely yourneeds.
And so at the beginning.
You're probably not bonded with,with very many people.
Mm-hmm.
So you're like, okay, well Imight as well get something
(04:52):
outta this.
Yeah.
I don't think I can make it allthe way.
There's only one person,statistically that can get this.
That's, that's a lot.
More than likely I'm not goingto get that.
You know?
Mm-hmm.
Or maybe some people really didstrongly feel that way, but,
yeah.
So I, I could totally seepersonally myself.
Maybe feeling like I could dothat if, if it were, you know, a
(05:13):
decent kind of amount.
not to say that I, I mean, Iwouldn't enjoy the fact that it
kind of, you know, gets otherpeople out.
But I mean, it also, yeah, likeyou said, it's a game and you
have to weigh that versus like,I haven't really bonded with
these people.
I don't really owe these people.
This is the name of the game.
Right.
and I know they were trying to,in the different rows, they were
trying to kind of bond and belike, my name is this, my name
(05:35):
is that, to be like, oh, youknow me, you know me.
And kind of create those bonds.
Yeah.
But it just wasn't reallyanything too personal.
And for some people they werejust like, I got all these bills
to pay.
And I don't like.
What if someone else ends uptaking this, because I don't
trust, trust is another factor.
They don't know these people inthat.
They haven't really bonded withthem.
They don't know anything aboutthem except their number or
(05:55):
maybe one or their first name,so, yeah.
Yeah.
It's really hard to, all right.
Who, who am I gonna trust?
Or you know, what am I gonna dofor myself or for them?
Whose word can I take?
And, You know, am I ever gonnaget this chance to be offered,
money like this again?
Mm-hmm.
In this manner?
so I may have taken that money.
I think I would've, depending onwhat stage and what was
(06:18):
happening, I think I probablywould've, especially if it was
like a big physical thing and Iwas like, I'm not, I don't know
if I can stack up to everybody.
I think I'd be like, Gimme thatmillion or whatever.
Yeah.
If offered before.
Yeah.
and you know, I think thatthere's another element here.
There's shame, right?
There's public shame of like, weknow you did something against
the group, which can be strong.
(06:39):
But again, if you don't knowthese people, some people really
don't care in general whetherthey know the people or not.
And then some people just have,like, I personally, I have a
high.
amount of shame for things thatI probably shouldn't.
But I do think in thatsituation, I think I've worked
on that.
I could feel like, okay, this isnot, like, I'm not really doing
anything terrible to someone.
(07:00):
This is a competition, right?
It is a game.
This is, these are the risks ofthe game.
and I think that gets lost.
I think people forget thatthey're in a game or.
This is, they signed up for itwhile they're in it.
And that's some psychologicalcomponent I think with a lot of
these games that you see like ononline, like, you know, like I
Keep gonna Survivor or Naked andAfraid, or one of those, like, I
(07:21):
think people forget that it's acompetition.
Yeah.
Again, you signed up for this,so, but once you're in it, you
kind of forget and be like, ohwait, what about her?
What about him?
I gotta think about everybodyelse's needs.
Yeah, because as they movealong, they do start to get
bonded.
They do start to talk to eachother and hear about each
other's kids and their lives, oryou know, what they do for a
(07:44):
living, and just get to knowtheir personalities and they.
That that is something, becausenow you have something that
you're saying it's a personalnarrative.
It's not like a, you know, likea, a face, just a random face.
Right.
It's someone that you know, youknow their name, you know the
sound of their voice.
You know how their eyes light upwhen they talk about their,
their kid.
Right.
That for some people can belike, oh crap, I'm not, I don't
(08:07):
wanna take that away from them.
You know?
Like, I don't wanna hear likethe, the people that were
talking about, oh, I have a kidwho has a disease, or, you know,
this or that, and they could usethat.
Like, that's a really hard thingto then say, Ooh, I'm gonna
screw this person over and takethat chance away, even if it's
possible or not.
Right.
I would have a really hard timeat that point, my shame level
would be.
I think I would have a hard timewhen I started to know.
(08:29):
But I think as a person, I amnot somebody who gets to know
everybody in the group.
I think I kind of sit back andwait, and then I get to know
People.
And so that may be an advantageor a disadvantage.
It could be both.
Because you also, like you werepointing out, you need to
establish connections so thatpeople can trust you.
People want to have you, inthese.
(08:50):
Different challenges.
People want to elect you as aleader.
Or they just want you to go tothe island because they know
you, they're trustworthy.
And if you don't get to knowpeople like that and don't get
to prove that, then you could beeliminated just by that.
So it's a really important, youreally have to kind of keep
looking and being adaptable andhow you think about, I guess
like your moral code or howyou're playing your strategy
(09:12):
too.
and that's what you were sayingis that, people do forget that
it is a game, but you have to beadaptable in how you're looking
at the strategy and Your moralcode in this.
That, you know, save outside oflike, murdering someone or
physically harming someone.
Everyone's kind of signed up forthis.
Yeah.
They signed up for it and they,I think they also had to realize
too, like you mentioned, likethe components of building
(09:33):
relationships and getting toknow people or.
You're not gonna do that, have,have your game of really
observing and kind of watchinghoned in really well.
So you're not just in thebackground just playing
solitaire, you're actually inthe groups or walking around.
(09:55):
You might not really be talkingto people, but you're still
seeing what's happening.
So you know how everyone'sworking.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I think I have to really, get toknow people on a deeper level as
opposed to many people.
And so that's kind of more myintroverted nature and I don't
think that dynamic would workfor me.
yeah, I think I would definitelybe, and I would know that and I
think I would start to see like,I need to try and get something
(10:17):
before,'cause I'm not gonna makeit to the end, you know, I'm
gonna get eliminated, so I needto figure out the next thing
he's offering.
I need to raise my hand.
Yeah.
Right.
I was just thinking that.
I was like, that's how I know Iwould like probably by the
fourth.
Like episode, I'd need to beoutta there with, with a little
something and be like, okay, Itried.
Yeah.
And you know.
Yeah.
I like that.
Mm-hmm.
Like summer camp, you know fromhell.
(10:38):
Can't imagine.
I'm sorry about the smells and.
Ugh.
Ugh.
I'm, I, I just don't like, I'msorry.
I don't, I don't like that.
I don't like that at all.
mm-hmm.
It's hard enough.
I have to spend, you know, sharea bed with my husband.
It's, you know, it's tough.
No.
I love you, Dino, if you'relistening, but, he knows my
struggles with, like, I getoverheated and I'm like, oh,
(10:58):
like I'm sweating.
Yeah.
And my.
Perimenopausal self.
I think it really is aninteresting, display of dynamics
is there any kind of particularchallenge that sticks out to you
that just kind of really.
I think we talked about thecube.
Like when they're in the cubeand so then you could wish for,
or you could call and you canget anything you want, You can
(11:19):
get.
Stuffed animals or food or thisor that.
Or you could dress up, you know,puppies.
Puppies a horse.
Yeah.
So you can get anything youwish, but the thing is, like,
they had to figure out, one ofyou is going to stay, so there's
three people, two are gonnaleave, one is gonna stay and get
chained to the wall, and thenthey're eliminated.
(11:40):
they figure out different ways,like whether you're rolling a
dice and this and that some ofthem played board games, some of
them just talked it out and someof them did it really nice and
you're like, oh, they're good,decent people.
But there was two brothers and agirl who were in one and they
were just trying to figure itout their manipulation of this
person I just felt like was justso wrong.
(12:01):
they tricked her into puttingherself up and they lied and it
just felt really bad.
it reduced Her chances of goingup.
The Habibi Brothers, they wereApparently they just kind of
scheme together, which is again,you know, it's a strategy, but
it didn't look good for, I'msure people, if they got
recognized afterwards, werelike, you guys were dirt bags.
(12:22):
You know?
Yeah.
That does show, I think theycould have gone about it in a
different way, and yeah, maybethey would've risked one going
home.
But that, again, that's kind oflike, do you go with the
strategy and play dirty or doyou, just leave it up to chance
and say, well, this just isn'tfor me.
And maybe in there there's alittle bit of, you know, kind
of, you know, you're, whatyou're.
Integrity is, or whatever.
Yeah.
But they were, they were justjerks about it.
(12:43):
Like the one guy was laughingwhen she was crying and
basically just made, he waslike, I'm not participating.
And they set it all up.
Yeah.
they played her and basicallyshe ended up pulling the lower
card and the guy was just like,we had it all planned out, we're
geniuses.
just total jerks.
So that was definitely one thatI thought of.
And then the train one too waspretty crazy.
(13:04):
Oh yeah, that's the one thatstuck out to me.
Really?
Yeah.
With the Lamborghini, like,okay, are you gonna hit a
Lamborghini or Dummies, or areyou gonna do this?
Or you know, like, these threepeople and who are you gonna
pick to stand there and.
Then you gotta watch and are yougonna pull the lever and make
the train move?
So it, that one was very highadrenaline.
(13:25):
'cause you didn't know what wasgonna happen.
That one, seriously, my heartwas beating so fast.
'cause I was like that, like, itjust, it was so horrible to
watch out, even though they weredummies.
I was like, oh my gosh.
But, it, you know, it's hardbecause the first guy who, and I
can't remember his name, I knowit began with an a.
The first guy that got elected,like the, the leader who had to
make the decision.
(13:45):
Mm-hmm.
He had a tough decision to make because he was kind of
like, okay, if I, if I do this,you know, if I eliminate, you
know, the Lamborghini, I don'tthink he was just thinking of
the Lamborghini.
I think he was thinking we'regoing to have to eliminate some
people.
Yeah.
And if I just put this off, thenyou know, somebody else could go
into being a leader.
(14:06):
Then I could be eliminated fromthis.
Right.
So I kind of have to getsomething like that.
Yeah.
Maybe they thought that wasselfish and their friends were
kind of getting mad, being like,oh, you did this wrong.
But at the same point, theyweren't in that position.
Yeah.
To have to make a choice.
Yeah.
'cause he had to think too,okay, well if I let this
Lamborghini get smashed, I'mprobably going home next.
And elimination is the name ofthe game.
(14:27):
And, and by chance and by howthe it plays out, it really is a
lot of chance and a lot of luck.
Mm-hmm.
And unfortunately, he didn'treally know those three, the
three women I think.
Yeah.
The three women that he elected.
And, you know, it was just kindof the way it was and I really
got way too invested in whathappened with Tijuana and, Dino.
(14:48):
there was a time when basically,Tijuana was voted leader.
Dino had gone up to be a leader,but they started saying like
they didn't trust him because hewas trying to get other people
to go up.
And when Tijuana and Queen wentup, he like then went up
himself.
I think he may have went upafter that when he didn't seem
(15:08):
he wanted to before was becausethey announced you're going to
wanna be a leader.
The leader will be, will go on.
And I think he maybe was like,oh crap.
Yeah, maybe I should be aleader.
I don't know that it was like hewas going against, Them in
particular, I think he was like,oh, maybe I should go ahead and
be the leader.
'cause that's what I wasthinking.
I was like, oh, maybe I wouldjump in then to be the leader.
(15:29):
No one else.
No one else was jumping to do iteither.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think, well, he saw, hesaw Queen go up and then, you
know, she saw him go up and Ithink she thought like, oh, well
he, he doesn't trust me.
And he's been trying to workthings like it, like he was
being shady, but once again,strategy.
And I think he heard, I, you'regonna go through.
So he was like, okay, I'll trythis.
(15:51):
You know, they trusted me as aleader before.
Yeah.
and then they, they got reallyupset It was self preservation
at that point when he was, youknow, he had to then pick
another person to be on thetracks with him, and he picked
someone who Tawana then said,you know, we weren't even that
close of friends.
We didn't really get to knoweach other that well.
Right.
But, you know, she was just usedas bait, but it's like, well,
(16:12):
what, what other strategy couldhe have used?
He would've had to pick someoneanyways.
Maybe he was trying to hope.
Yeah.
Okay.
Maybe you won't have to, it justmade tiawana feel worse about
Right.
I just kept thinking this couldhave happened to anyone.
This doesn't show his character.
Mm-hmm.
Like, I mean, yeah, sure.
He could have just sacrificedhimself and been like, oh, I'll
just take whoever along with me,but.
(16:33):
How is that?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I didn't see that as that.
Terrible.
And then JC and Queen likethought he was just being messed
up.
And then JC goes and takes amajority of the million six,
yeah, six,$600,000 or somethinglike that.
Just because he feels like his,his debt and his needs outweigh
(16:55):
anyone else's, which.
Yeah, he had opposite of groupthink.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
He was just, he, I think hereally saw the money and was
like, I could walk, I literallycan pay off my debt and be okay.
And you know what?
I might have to feel like a badperson.
I might have to feel like this,but I think it was just too much
for him.
Yeah.
he couldn't deny it.
(17:16):
Mm-hmm.
And he just took it.
But, That I think was prettyshitty because they really could
have all just had a hundredthousand.
They really could have, I mean,he could have made that fair,
you know?
Well, and just how he, it reallyaffected the four or five people
after him too.
So it was like all seven peopleafter, and they had to really.
(17:36):
And, and that, that I thinkreally showed too that some
people, like Emma, she was like,I'm not gonna take the full 20.
She was left with 27,000.
And JC was like, I wanna leaveEmma something.
You left her with 27,000 afterhe took 650,000.
But then it would also leave herlooking like a big jerk if she
took it all.
'cause then everyone else haszero.
And 27,000 is not at all whatthey were.
Like, they were kind of underthe impression of like, Hey,
(17:58):
let's just do a hundred thousandeasy.
You know, like We could buildmore trust here and Yeah.
But, at the same point, I don'tthink I could have taken more
than a hundred thousand duringthat, and especially'cause
people know it's you, it's notlike it's an, anonymous thing
where you're just saying, okay,well I'm gonna take this money
and everyone would know you'rethe one who took it.
(18:19):
Well, that's the thing is Jimmy,Mr.
Beast said, no one's gonna knowit's anonymous.
And he meant for that pointbecause he always twists things
around.
Yeah.
But then they found outafterwards.
So I think maybe JC felt like,why not if I can do this?
So maybe it was a little bit ofhis like, kind of like, I mean,
I understand, you know, you'vegot kids, you've got, you got, I
mean, but other people do too.
(18:40):
That definitely his.
His, self preservation justkicked in high drive there.
And maybe that's something thathe talked about, before he went
on, get that money at any cost.
And I mean, he only left Emma27,000 and then she took 5,000
and she was like, well, I justgot married and I wanted to help
my sister and this and that, butI'm not gonna take all the money
She's, you know, and theneverybody else was kind of.
(19:01):
Was pretty fair after that, theywere like, I'm not gonna take
all this, you know, and Split itup, but it was cruddy amount,
you know, 27,000 Yeah.
Compared to the, the million.
not that I would, I would loveto get$5,000 randomly, but I'm
just saying like, you know, inthat context, But yeah, I think
it was seeing how your moralcode can shift At different.
And I do not think that therewas somebody in here who was
(19:24):
just so noble, never cheated,never had to strategize.
Everybody had to at some point.
It's just that, Some people gota little luckier because they
maybe were not in certainpositions where they had to kind
of make a really tough choiceand look at really sacrificing
themselves.
you know, with Tijuana, maybethat was an exception.
But I do see that she also, Ithink she was kind of someone
(19:47):
who was very influential inbeing like, this is how you
should be, this is how you showintegrity.
She was very influential in thegroup moral code sort of,
because she just had thatnatural personality but who
knows how she would've been ifshe was in that same situation?
Yeah.
And, and I mean, she did take ahundred thousand, you know, so
she did show like, Hey, I amlooking out.
I do think she was trying to behonorable, but I, I think there
(20:08):
were some situations like that,like the thing with, with jazz
and, and Dino, I just was like,that it wasn't personal.
I mean, it was just mm-hmm.
He was trying to save himself.
Yeah.
But, Yeah.
And, and also, you know, I, Ihave to say when they, for the
helicopter ride to the island,that gave me such anxiety about
like, oh my exclusion.
(20:29):
And like, who's gonna getpicked?
Yeah.
And like somebody said, theywere like, I feel like I'm back
in school.
I'm not getting picked forkickball.
And I was like, me too.
I'm not even there.
Yeah.
Well then, then you see everyonekind of like partying on the
boat and just having a good timewhen they're, you know, it's
like, and then the people who.
Going on the island, you know,if you don't win, you're getting
eliminated.
So it's such a gamble.
(20:50):
Yeah.
I mean, I would not wanna Randomisland.
You mean when they actually gotthere?
I was just talking even aboutthe helicopters to even get to
the island.
When they had to.
like how there was only like 10of'em or something, but there
was not enough seats for all of'em.
Like that gave me such like,because it's kind of like right
there, those are yourconnections or you enough of a
connection that you can getpicked on on that.
(21:12):
Yeah.
Jeremy, the preacher guy thateverybody like trusted, but some
people did not trust.
Some people said minority kindof cult culty, which I can
definitely see that.
he ended up giving to the, Ithink because he felt like,
well, I said I would look atfemale, so he gave it to the, to
this female that he said yourcharacter came through and she
was the one that when they wereblindfolded.
(21:33):
With the ball drop that wasshouting out numbers to people
up.
Yeah.
and he's like, he didn't have agood judge of character.
Yeah.
And that's what everyone waslike, what?
Yeah.
Of all the people, you choseher, you know?
'cause Yeah, she was very like,yeah.
Trying to destroy everyone'sgame.
And I think he maybe didn't knowthat at the time.
Like maybe he didn't realizethat, that it was her.
(21:53):
I know she did say before hepicked her, like she was like,
just pick a a, a girl, please.
Just any girl.
It doesn't have to be me.
You know?
So maybe he thought, oh, wellshe's a good person, but he
didn't know that.
So she must be good.
Yeah.
I think he just went based onvery kind of shallow predictions
because he probably didn't getto know a lot of the women.
Yeah.
He, it is just like a bro, brothing for him.
And the way he just kind of, washe an actual preacher?
(22:15):
Like was he, or was he, I don'tknow.
He just, I don't know.
It's funny'cause I've, I sawsomething saying like that he
was, and that it's like culty,but I don't know.
That's interesting.
cause you know, we like to talkabout cults too, so it all comes
back to it.
Maybe we could, if we find outmore information, we could talk
about his.
Quotation marks church orwhatever it is that he leads
(22:36):
church of something.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't wanna, I don't wannadisparage that.
But yeah.
yeah, no, I, I really think thatthis was, I have to say
honestly, overall, I got acreepy vibe from Mr.
Beast.
I think he has a, yeah.
I think he just has a very, hisaffect is very strange to me.
His reality is a little skewedthan everybody else's.
So he's probably used to beingthe center of attention and
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having everything planned theway he wants it.
Based on his, YouTube.
And how he got famous andeverything.
And you could see that in that,like some of the games were not
planned out.
Well, we were talking about theywere kind of rushed.
It was still a fun, like 10episode seasons.
I mean, There's like a few thatwere kind of sloppy and you're
like, well, did he just rushthis?
Because he wants to get to thebig one and he has to have so
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many, he still needs all thesepeople eliminated.
And that's what it felt like.
Yeah, I did the, I mean, it wascool, the production of like,
the city, the islands, thehelicopters, you know, it was
all very flashy and big, whichwas, you know, I hate to say it,
but like, that is what we lookfor sometimes.
But it also felt very over thetop at some points compared to
like, the weak trivia questionsthat he asked.
(23:42):
And yeah, it was just strange.
a little bit of like not havinga backup plan with some of the
games.
But also I think his crew and Iknow maybe we might not agree on
this.
I thought they were creepy too.
They didn't introduce them.
And they were just kind ofwearing black and they were kind
of like creeping around.
Yeah.
I don't know.
The two boys, I know they'reprobably not boys.
They're probably like 26 orsomething, but like They do look
(24:03):
young though.
they seemed.
Less creepy than the others.
'cause they actually seemed likethey tried to get friendships
with some of the, contestants.
Sometimes they were just kind oftaunting them though.
And heckling them.
Yeah.
And that was probably their job.
I just didn't get a good vibefrom them.
I just didn't really like itoverall.
But, in terms of that, with likethat being brought on, I thought
it was a little bit all over theplace.
Mm-hmm.
(24:24):
Like, couldn't tell.
How, was there like five ofthem, or six or four?
I don't, I don't know.
Yeah.
There's probably, didn't reallyknow their names, didn't really
know the connection that theyhad.
They, were they just hisfriends?
Yeah.
Like, were they best friends?
Do they all YouTube together?
Do they, you know, how do theyknow each other?
Maybe if like we watch some ofMr.
Beast, I just don't watch him.
I watch.
Yeah.
I don't watch Mr.
Beast.
I I, I am curious to now, butyeah, I haven't seen, I, I only
(24:47):
heard about it because my son,people at his class were talking
about Beast games, so then westarted watching it.
Mm.
Yeah.
Luck strategy, trust,manipulation.
Group individual dynamics youhave to take into account.
I don't know that there's oneformula for being able to win.
I think it is a lot of luck.
And likability and being able toknow how to proceed and some
(25:11):
Kind of, thinking on your feet.
Like the guy who won, what washis name, Jeff?
I think he had like ability, hehad the story.
he got to know everybody andthen at the end, he was just
really smart and in tune.
Like he was able to see how theother person, like, oh, how is
she acting?
What, how did she answer thequestions?
Which briefcase might she haveput?
(25:32):
Where you know is.
Yeah, he, he seemed to read bodylanguage and psychological kind
of cues very well, and mm-hmm.
I thought that was reallyimpressive, the way he picked
case number six.
Yeah.
And even how he answered and,you know, then paused and you
could tell, she was like, ah,crap, I was caught.
Or I, yeah, yeah.
I knew he wanted, when he saidlike, he was going towards six,
(25:55):
I was like, oh, no.
She definitely kind of gaveherself away.
Like, she thinks she's like kindof a, you know.
a brick wall.
And she's not giving off anyclues, but she definitely did
give a little bit of like, hereyes got a little, you could
just tell like she was a littlenervous.
And he, he also was, wasn't hethe one that hung in the
physical challenge with theother guy?
So he was, Jeff was prettyphysical too, so he was a lot, I
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thought it was a different guy.
I thought it was the tattooedguy and another skinny guy.
Oh, maybe.
Or maybe he was the pushup.
He was like the, like second inpushups or something.
Maybe I'm mixing'em up.
it was hard to tell sometimeswho was who, because there were
so many people at certainpoints.
But he, yeah, he had a lot ofabilities and he had like the
purpose, he had the story and,yeah.
Likability, I think people likedhim.
(26:36):
He was always in a group ofpeople.
'cause that was one thing too,where Mr.
Beast would watch to see who wasalone, who wasn't which
friendships they had or who theychose to hang out with.
Again, that's why even if you'rejust wanna play solitaire or
take a nap in the back, you kindof would wanna be seen or sit
with people or try to get toknow people.
(26:57):
Or maybe try to get to knowpeople that you wouldn't wanna
hang out with because it seemedlike that also, then he would
pit the friends together.
So start talking to people atdifferent times that you don't
even like.
So then he is like, look,they're friends and then they
eliminate your enemy.
Yeah.
But I mean, I think people arejust people and they're gonna
gravitate towards who theygravitate toward.
they have like this insane, likethousand.
(27:18):
Thousand cameras set up so theycould really analyze every
single detail.
they made a ruling on one of thechallenges with like the balls
dropping or whatever.
At first they thought one teamhad lost and then it ended up
being the other one.
'cause they caught on camera.
Somebody actually let the balldrop.
he let it touch the floor and itbounced so quickly up.
I guess they missed it the firsttime around, but then they saw
it on the cameras.
So that system and kind of thewatching that it's necessary
(27:41):
with that many people.
Mm-hmm.
And that much money.
For sure.
Yeah.
because he gave away a lot ofmoney.
There was a lot along the way.
There were offers of like, youknow, the million dollars for,
the four team leaders.
None of them took that.
I was very surprised that noneof'em took.
thought one of taken thatthought of them was gonna taken
'cause honestly,'cause that wasonly like day two or three.
It wasn't too far into it.
And then they have the four teamleaders looking at their groups
(28:05):
and it's like, okay, well if youtake the million, you get to
keep the million and you're inthe game.
And then everyone in your groupis gone.
But they didn't even know themyet.
They were just all in the sameline as them.
So that that's'cause they didn'teven talk to each other.
Just like, okay, everyone standand stand over here.
Who's your group leader?
And.
So I'd be like, all right, bye.
See ya.
Yeah.
(28:26):
I mean it kind of, maybe youwould've felt like, like that
shame, but you know what wasthere is you are facing them and
they're all looking at you like,please, no, I depend on you.
Yeah.
And so that's reallypsychologically, like I think
that was honestly what kept themkind of like, Ooh, if I do this,
I'm really disappointing thesepeople and this feels so
shameful to be like up on aplatform.
(28:46):
Yeah.
People watching me take theirchance.
Away because I want this.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And so I think that may havebeen a deciding factor in that
overall.
Yeah.
Which is a really strong,whether you know the people or
not, it's like, like, so I thinkI, I, I see, I, I don't know.
I may have felt too shamed forthat, but logically it makes
sense.
You know?
it does.
But yeah.
(29:07):
And so I think that's where alot of those four leaders
established a lot ofcredibility.
But then, yeah.
you know, Jeremy kind of becamethe, the, the preacher.
Like, people were like, eh, heis not really taking women.
And, one of'em lost in like the,the cube.
The cube gate.
Like he just naturally lost andYeah.
so I don't think any of thosepeople made it through Tiawana.
Tiana did.
Oh yeah.
(29:27):
Was the leader.
she, that was where I think shehad a good strategy in thinking,
I can really be liked by thisand trusted, but with the other
people.
There were other things thatpeople saw.
And with Dino, it was that thingon the train tracks.
And then they just completelyforgot about, oh, well, he's
trustworthy.
And you know, he was kind of ina bad, all of a sudden they were
like, all right, screw him.
We hate you.
(29:47):
And that's where the group thinkcomes in play too.
Yeah.
Even though, I mean, I'm prettysure most people would've done
that, so Yeah.
I don't know.
But Tiawana, I think, kind ofhad, she was the one that made
it through and Yeah.
I found out really strange thather number and the final three,
she was voted by the formercontestants as the person they
would've Gotten rid of.
Which she seemed to be the mostliked.
(30:09):
I don't know if it was'cause itwas anonymous or, like I said,
maybe the question was framed tothem, like, who would you not
want to compete against?
I don't know.
But I found that really odd.
She was the one.
And then Gge of course, who wasthe one that got them 10
million.
That coin flip that he took wasinsane.
'cause he could have beeneliminated or mm-hmm.
Just, you know, made a popbigger for someone that was not
(30:31):
him, which he ultimately did.
Yeah.
But a lot of, a lot ofpsychological elements, a lot of
mm-hmm.
You know, and people beingmanipulative to, to, you know,
try and.
during the, the city game withpeople trying to get votes and
everything and you know, peoplelying, people bribing people
with money.
Yeah.
(30:51):
You know, just to be able to geta seat and it's like, how, you
know, how far would you go?
That I would've totally messedup and been like, will you vote
for me?
I think, overall it was a goodwatch.
Very interesting to see whatpeople would do.
if you can see their integrity,but if you can really see, that
you are in line with being ableto get life changing money.
(31:15):
And I don't think that is reallynecessarily people's.
Character or dignity fully.
especially with, the way thingsare now in the world.
So I don't know that it's agreat measure of people and how
they truly Are, but maybe inseeing opportunity in these
places to be like, well,nobody's getting hurt.
Well, and it's also some oftheir most vulnerable things
(31:37):
too.
finances really make people.
Think and behave differentlythan they would in probably
normal day-to-day situations.
Yeah.
And in these offerings with someof the money, and of course the
final pot of 5 million, it canbe completely life changing for
(31:57):
people that they could pay downtheir debt, have a fresh start,
or, you know, start up abusiness for passive income
Wealth, right?
And setting up your family forgenerations.
Mm-hmm.
So that's a lot to think about.
It's not a, it's not a smallthing that, you know, saying
like, okay, maybe this clip ofme being a good person that'll
(32:20):
make me feel better.
Right.
That kind of thing, like thatwon't make me feel great.
In the end.
But, I do think.
I do, you know, I, I actually, Ikind of wonder if some people at
the beginning, the very firstepisode, if they thought if they
sacrificed themselves when theyweren't offered anything just
for the benefit of the team, ifthey thought maybe they would
get something or if maybe theyjust have that like guilt
(32:42):
complex of like, I don't deserveit, you know, kind of thing.
Yeah.
Or maybe they just felt thislike pressure of, I, I don't
wanna be here, this is too much.
I am kind of wondering what thatwas, I could see myself 10 years
ago, 15 years ago, getting inthat position.
I don't think I'd be there rightnow, but I definitely used to
have feelings like that Like Ifelt like, oh my gosh, I can't
take this.
(33:02):
This is too much and I don'tdeserve to be here.
These other people do it becomeslike a self worth thing of like,
not only am I putting otherpeople's needs first, I'm not
worthy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I kind of wonder if that waswhat was happening in that first
game with some people.
Oh, I'm sure some people, it mayhave been, maybe they felt like,
okay, this game isn't for me.
It's too much.
Yeah.
Or maybe some people thoughtthey would get something from
it.
I don't know.
But you never know what's gonnahappen.
(33:23):
There's so many twists andturns.
So they have to really preparefor that.
psychologically it takes you onsome twists and turns.
Mm-hmm.
It does.
It's a lot.
It is good.
Yeah.
So this brings me to a questionor a fun question.
Okay.
If you had to choose onechallenge to go through, out of
(33:46):
all the challenges, which onewould you want to do on B
schemes?
Hmm.
I think I'd probably do, I don't know, some of the
challenges in the tower in thecity looked pretty fun.
You know, some of those likewhere you're, you're with the
teams or you're, but I think Iprobably the train, even though
(34:10):
it's high anxiety, I think beingon top of the platform, figuring
out when I'm gonna pull it wouldbe really fun.
Okay.
Yeah, I could see that.
Yeah.
I think that would probably notbe, that would be the least one
I would wanna do because I wouldalways, I, I am a person who
(34:30):
questions like, did I do theright thing?
Right.
Even if I feel like I did, Iwill question myself.
So I actually think, oddlyenough, as much anxiety as this
would give me, I'd rather gowith like the chance games.
Well, it was a, you know, if Ihad to do it so that I, I
wouldn't have to like doubtmyself and be like, did I doubt
myself?
Did I, did I do this enough?
Right.
And, question myself.
(34:51):
Yeah.
But I, I think that's probablywhat I would do.
'cause it's like, well, whatelse could I do?
Yeah.
You know, like, it's not, it'snot of the like politics or
anything playing into it and.
You're just standing there.
I would not wanna do thestrength one, and all of a
sudden I have to do like 50pushups or something like that.
Like you pull a monster truck,you don't wanna pull a monster
truck and, or like feel likeyou're in the presidential
(35:12):
fitness thing or something.
Yeah.
These people, but then the groupthat you didn't think was gonna
win, because they seemed likethey were like smarter with
like, okay, let's just slow downand figure this out.
Yeah, I thought that wasinteresting.
It was a physical challenge, butyeah, they used their brains and
I kept saying, we were like, oh,like if you go back and you get
some momentum kind of thing.
(35:32):
We were both thinking that, butwe were like, but these people,
maybe that's how they, I don'tknow that that was a good thing.
They thought of that becausethat's what got them to win it.
But, yeah, so, let us know whatyou think.
Tanya watched the entire thingin like a couple days.
I, it took me, I think it tookme like two weeks.
So we would just do one episode,one or two episodes a night.
(35:52):
Which is the better way to doit, because I had so much
anxiety and it was just allcompounded.
Yeah.
Honestly.
But it's very addictive.
It's very addictive and it isvery adrenaline.
And it had our family havinglots of conversations.
I mean, we are talking a lotabout Mr.
Beast and just a lot of stuff.
I mean, which is, I mean, it's,that's the point, right?
(36:14):
So I mean, it was, it was fun.
Yeah, I don't think there'scertain game shows.
I'm like, I, I would like to seemyself on that one day, or if I
felt like it, I don't think I'dwanna be on Mr.
Beast.
I would go, but I don't think ifthere's a, there's probably a
rigorous process to get throughwith it.
I don't think I'd wanna gothrough that to do it.
(36:35):
And then, well, if I can get onit and then get eliminated like
the first day or two and stillbring home like 20,000 or
something like that, that'd befine.
Yeah, that'd be nice.
I think that'd be good.
I just don't, I don't wanna gothrough that whole thing.
And like, it's, honestly, it's alittle bit of psychological
warfare.
I really wouldn't want to gothrough that.
It's not fun, Yeah.
So, yeah, let us know what youthought.
If you watched it or if youwanna watch it, what you think,
(36:57):
if you would go on beach gamesor what challenges you liked,
which ones you didn't, peopleyou liked, you didn't, we didn't
go too much into the peoplebecause, they're numbered.
Yeah.
they're numbers.
But also I think It's up toeveryone's judgment on that.
And I think it's verycontextual.
It's kind of not fair to reallycall one person out.
it's a tough situation.
it's complex.
Plus we forgot a lot of theirnames, so Yeah, I don't know.
(37:19):
I didn't really know any oftheir names, honestly.
And I think that's the way thatMr.
B said it,'cause that's like 882or blah, blah blah.
So you're just numbers.
It was very dystopian squidgames ish with that.
Like referring to their numbersand the way he just talked to
them and yeah, it was very odd.
But, yeah, so, let us know whatyou think.
(37:40):
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Erin (00:31):
Hey guys, this is Tanya.
Hi, this is Erin and welcome toWicked Psychotherapist.
Tanya (00:35):
Yeah.
So today we are talking aboutsomething pretty, pretty new and
really fun on Amazon.
The Beast Games.
I don't know what it, I don't, Idon't know.
I think it's called, I thinkit's just Beast Games.
Beast Games, yeah.
But we, this is not somethingthat I knew about and I kind of
binge watched over the weekend,I found it very interesting.
We thought there'd be a lot ofkind of psychological dynamics
(00:58):
and just some, some things todiscuss
mm-hmm.
Erin (01:00):
In that, you know, because there is a lot of mental
warfare, I think in a lot ofthese.
Yeah.
A lot of psychological elements.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
so if you have not watched this,there are without a doubt going
to be spoilers because wewatched all 10, episodes.
So we're gonna be going rightdown even to the winner.
So keep that in mind.
(01:21):
Mm-hmm.
'cause we'll just be talkingabout it.
But yeah, I thought it wasreally interesting this, this
dynamic of having a thousandpeople come in who are complete
strangers to one another.
Except, I mean, some of them,you know, there are pairs of
friends and a married couplekind of here and there.
But for the most part, everybodyis a stranger to one another.
And knowing or not knowing whatthey have to do to get this pot
(01:44):
of 5 million at the end.
And only one person is going toget it.
but along the way you start torealize, well there's other
things that get offered and isit about taking this now or
thinking you can win the 5million along the way and just
offered in so many differentways.
that Mr.
Beast or Jimmy does.
I really thought, you know, thefirst episode with the, where
(02:06):
everybody is just in rows, theydon't know each other.
Right.
You know, with the exception,like I said before, but he, Mr.
Beast starts to offer up bribesto kind of say, Hey, if you take
this, you gotta eliminateyourself, but you can take this
money kind of thing.
Right.
How much would it take you to.
some people took it right,because that kind of makes
sense.
They probably played out thepracticality of like, what's the
(02:27):
actual, you know, stat that Iwould be able to, what are the
chances I would be able to getto be number one and why not
walk away with some money, youknow, and not have to really
compete too much I can just gohome with, you know, whatever,
20,000 or whatever it is.
I thought that was kind ofinteresting because I think some
people were like.
this is something not only tothink about for myself, but also
they didn't know these otherpeople.
(02:49):
along the way, the more and moreyou go along the episodes, they
become closer, right?
They're gonna naturally justbecome friends.
I think it was kind of easier tojust take the money because in
doing so, you would then.
Eliminate your row or you know,the chances of other people
around you.
And so maybe some people werelike, well that's, that's the
name of the game.
I don't really know thesepeople.
I don't really care.
(03:09):
I need this money.
how did you find the kind offirst part of this where
everybody's strangers, there'sofferings of money, To be like,
okay, you're eliminated, but youget this money guaranteed.
Yeah, so I mean like the way thewhole show started, even from
the very beginning when they'rejust in this huge room and
(03:30):
there's a thousand of'em, theyjust have these numbers on them.
It's kind of ominous too.
You're like, what is this show?
What is happening?
And you know, then you startseeing them drop and then, yeah,
then there's.
Different parts where they'reoffered him money as a group.
Like, Hey, you individual canget this and you save your
(03:50):
group.
it really was a lot ofpsychological components because
you start thinking, what would Ido?
Or why are they choosing that?
Why are they not just taking themoney for themselves?
Because, you know, watchingother reality shows like
Survivor and other things, it'slike in the end it's just you.
(04:11):
You have to think about yourselfat times because these people
are strangers.
Even though you might be friendsand you might live in the be
city or whatever it is, but it,you all signed up for the same
reason.
You all signed up for the chanceto win$5 million.
These people are not reallyhaving your best interest, and
(04:31):
it's hard to see that whenyou're in it, and I'm sure that
played a huge part of it.
the dynamic of like individualneed versus group need, because
the more and more you bondwithin a group, the less you're
gonna think of just solely yourneeds.
And so at the beginning.
You're probably not bonded with,with very many people.
Mm-hmm.
So you're like, okay, well Imight as well get something
(04:52):
outta this.
Yeah.
I don't think I can make it allthe way.
There's only one person,statistically that can get this.
That's, that's a lot.
More than likely I'm not goingto get that.
You know?
Mm-hmm.
Or maybe some people really didstrongly feel that way, but,
yeah.
So I, I could totally seepersonally myself.
Maybe feeling like I could dothat if, if it were, you know, a
(05:13):
decent kind of amount.
not to say that I, I mean, Iwouldn't enjoy the fact that it
kind of, you know, gets otherpeople out.
But I mean, it also, yeah, likeyou said, it's a game and you
have to weigh that versus like,I haven't really bonded with
these people.
I don't really owe these people.
This is the name of the game.
Right.
and I know they were trying to,in the different rows, they were
trying to kind of bond and belike, my name is this, my name
(05:35):
is that, to be like, oh, youknow me, you know me.
And kind of create those bonds.
Yeah.
But it just wasn't reallyanything too personal.
And for some people they werejust like, I got all these bills
to pay.
And I don't like.
What if someone else ends uptaking this, because I don't
trust, trust is another factor.
They don't know these people inthat.
They haven't really bonded withthem.
They don't know anything aboutthem except their number or
(05:55):
maybe one or their first name,so, yeah.
Yeah.
It's really hard to, all right.
Who, who am I gonna trust?
Or you know, what am I gonna dofor myself or for them?
Whose word can I take?
And, You know, am I ever gonnaget this chance to be offered,
money like this again?
Mm-hmm.
In this manner?
so I may have taken that money.
I think I would've, depending onwhat stage and what was
(06:18):
happening, I think I probablywould've, especially if it was
like a big physical thing and Iwas like, I'm not, I don't know
if I can stack up to everybody.
I think I'd be like, Gimme thatmillion or whatever.
Yeah.
If offered before.
Yeah.
and you know, I think thatthere's another element here.
There's shame, right?
There's public shame of like, weknow you did something against
the group, which can be strong.
(06:39):
But again, if you don't knowthese people, some people really
don't care in general whetherthey know the people or not.
And then some people just have,like, I personally, I have a
high.
amount of shame for things thatI probably shouldn't.
But I do think in thatsituation, I think I've worked
on that.
I could feel like, okay, this isnot, like, I'm not really doing
anything terrible to someone.
(07:00):
This is a competition, right?
It is a game.
This is, these are the risks ofthe game.
and I think that gets lost.
I think people forget thatthey're in a game or.
This is, they signed up for itwhile they're in it.
And that's some psychologicalcomponent I think with a lot of
these games that you see like ononline, like, you know, like I
Keep gonna Survivor or Naked andAfraid, or one of those, like, I
(07:21):
think people forget that it's acompetition.
Yeah.
Again, you signed up for this,so, but once you're in it, you
kind of forget and be like, ohwait, what about her?
What about him?
I gotta think about everybodyelse's needs.
Yeah, because as they movealong, they do start to get
bonded.
They do start to talk to eachother and hear about each
other's kids and their lives, oryou know, what they do for a
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living, and just get to knowtheir personalities and they.
That that is something, becausenow you have something that
you're saying it's a personalnarrative.
It's not like a, you know, likea, a face, just a random face.
Right.
It's someone that you know, youknow their name, you know the
sound of their voice.
You know how their eyes light upwhen they talk about their,
their kid.
Right.
That for some people can belike, oh crap, I'm not, I don't
(08:07):
wanna take that away from them.
You know?
Like, I don't wanna hear likethe, the people that were
talking about, oh, I have a kidwho has a disease, or, you know,
this or that, and they could usethat.
Like, that's a really hard thingto then say, Ooh, I'm gonna
screw this person over and takethat chance away, even if it's
possible or not.
Right.
I would have a really hard timeat that point, my shame level
would be.
I think I would have a hard timewhen I started to know.
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But I think as a person, I amnot somebody who gets to know
everybody in the group.
I think I kind of sit back andwait, and then I get to know
People.
And so that may be an advantageor a disadvantage.
It could be both.
Because you also, like you werepointing out, you need to
establish connections so thatpeople can trust you.
People want to have you, inthese.
(08:50):
Different challenges.
People want to elect you as aleader.
Or they just want you to go tothe island because they know
you, they're trustworthy.
And if you don't get to knowpeople like that and don't get
to prove that, then you could beeliminated just by that.
So it's a really important, youreally have to kind of keep
looking and being adaptable andhow you think about, I guess
like your moral code or howyou're playing your strategy
(09:12):
too.
and that's what you were sayingis that, people do forget that
it is a game, but you have to beadaptable in how you're looking
at the strategy and Your moralcode in this.
That, you know, save outside oflike, murdering someone or
physically harming someone.
Everyone's kind of signed up forthis.
Yeah.
They signed up for it and they,I think they also had to realize
too, like you mentioned, likethe components of building
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relationships and getting toknow people or.
You're not gonna do that, have,have your game of really
observing and kind of watchinghoned in really well.
So you're not just in thebackground just playing
solitaire, you're actually inthe groups or walking around.
(09:55):
You might not really be talkingto people, but you're still
seeing what's happening.
So you know how everyone'sworking.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I think I have to really, get toknow people on a deeper level as
opposed to many people.
And so that's kind of more myintroverted nature and I don't
think that dynamic would workfor me.
yeah, I think I would definitelybe, and I would know that and I
think I would start to see like,I need to try and get something
(10:17):
before,'cause I'm not gonna makeit to the end, you know, I'm
gonna get eliminated, so I needto figure out the next thing
he's offering.
I need to raise my hand.
Yeah.
Right.
I was just thinking that.
I was like, that's how I know Iwould like probably by the
fourth.
Like episode, I'd need to beoutta there with, with a little
something and be like, okay, Itried.
Yeah.
And you know.
Yeah.
I like that.
Mm-hmm.
Like summer camp, you know fromhell.
(10:38):
Can't imagine.
I'm sorry about the smells and.
Ugh.
Ugh.
I'm, I, I just don't like, I'msorry.
I don't, I don't like that.
I don't like that at all.
mm-hmm.
It's hard enough.
I have to spend, you know, sharea bed with my husband.
It's, you know, it's tough.
No.
I love you, Dino, if you'relistening, but, he knows my
struggles with, like, I getoverheated and I'm like, oh,
(10:58):
like I'm sweating.
Yeah.
And my.
Perimenopausal self.
I think it really is aninteresting, display of dynamics
is there any kind of particularchallenge that sticks out to you
that just kind of really.
I think we talked about thecube.
Like when they're in the cubeand so then you could wish for,
or you could call and you canget anything you want, You can
(11:19):
get.
Stuffed animals or food or thisor that.
Or you could dress up, you know,puppies.
Puppies a horse.
Yeah.
So you can get anything youwish, but the thing is, like,
they had to figure out, one ofyou is going to stay, so there's
three people, two are gonnaleave, one is gonna stay and get
chained to the wall, and thenthey're eliminated.
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they figure out different ways,like whether you're rolling a
dice and this and that some ofthem played board games, some of
them just talked it out and someof them did it really nice and
you're like, oh, they're good,decent people.
But there was two brothers and agirl who were in one and they
were just trying to figure itout their manipulation of this
person I just felt like was justso wrong.
(12:01):
they tricked her into puttingherself up and they lied and it
just felt really bad.
it reduced Her chances of goingup.
The Habibi Brothers, they wereApparently they just kind of
scheme together, which is again,you know, it's a strategy, but
it didn't look good for, I'msure people, if they got
recognized afterwards, werelike, you guys were dirt bags.
(12:22):
You know?
Yeah.
That does show, I think theycould have gone about it in a
different way, and yeah, maybethey would've risked one going
home.
But that, again, that's kind oflike, do you go with the
strategy and play dirty or doyou, just leave it up to chance
and say, well, this just isn'tfor me.
And maybe in there there's alittle bit of, you know, kind
of, you know, you're, whatyou're.
Integrity is, or whatever.
Yeah.
But they were, they were justjerks about it.
(12:43):
Like the one guy was laughingwhen she was crying and
basically just made, he waslike, I'm not participating.
And they set it all up.
Yeah.
they played her and basicallyshe ended up pulling the lower
card and the guy was just like,we had it all planned out, we're
geniuses.
just total jerks.
So that was definitely one thatI thought of.
And then the train one too waspretty crazy.
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Oh yeah, that's the one thatstuck out to me.
Really?
Yeah.
With the Lamborghini, like,okay, are you gonna hit a
Lamborghini or Dummies, or areyou gonna do this?
Or you know, like, these threepeople and who are you gonna
pick to stand there and.
Then you gotta watch and are yougonna pull the lever and make
the train move?
So it, that one was very highadrenaline.
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'cause you didn't know what wasgonna happen.
That one, seriously, my heartwas beating so fast.
'cause I was like that, like, itjust, it was so horrible to
watch out, even though they weredummies.
I was like, oh my gosh.
But, it, you know, it's hardbecause the first guy who, and I
can't remember his name, I knowit began with an a.
The first guy that got elected,like the, the leader who had to
make the decision.
(13:45):
Mm-hmm.
He had a tough decision to make because he was kind of
like, okay, if I, if I do this,you know, if I eliminate, you
know, the Lamborghini, I don'tthink he was just thinking of
the Lamborghini.
I think he was thinking we'regoing to have to eliminate some
people.
Yeah.
And if I just put this off, thenyou know, somebody else could go
into being a leader.
(14:06):
Then I could be eliminated fromthis.
Right.
So I kind of have to getsomething like that.
Yeah.
Maybe they thought that wasselfish and their friends were
kind of getting mad, being like,oh, you did this wrong.
But at the same point, theyweren't in that position.
Yeah.
To have to make a choice.
Yeah.
'cause he had to think too,okay, well if I let this
Lamborghini get smashed, I'mprobably going home next.
And elimination is the name ofthe game.
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And, and by chance and by howthe it plays out, it really is a
lot of chance and a lot of luck.
Mm-hmm.
And unfortunately, he didn'treally know those three, the
three women I think.
Yeah.
The three women that he elected.
And, you know, it was just kindof the way it was and I really
got way too invested in whathappened with Tijuana and, Dino.
(14:48):
there was a time when basically,Tijuana was voted leader.
Dino had gone up to be a leader,but they started saying like
they didn't trust him because hewas trying to get other people
to go up.
And when Tijuana and Queen wentup, he like then went up
himself.
I think he may have went upafter that when he didn't seem
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he wanted to before was becausethey announced you're going to
wanna be a leader.
The leader will be, will go on.
And I think he maybe was like,oh crap.
Yeah, maybe I should be aleader.
I don't know that it was like hewas going against, Them in
particular, I think he was like,oh, maybe I should go ahead and
be the leader.
'cause that's what I wasthinking.
I was like, oh, maybe I wouldjump in then to be the leader.
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No one else.
No one else was jumping to do iteither.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think, well, he saw, hesaw Queen go up and then, you
know, she saw him go up and Ithink she thought like, oh, well
he, he doesn't trust me.
And he's been trying to workthings like it, like he was
being shady, but once again,strategy.
And I think he heard, I, you'regonna go through.
So he was like, okay, I'll trythis.
(15:51):
You know, they trusted me as aleader before.
Yeah.
and then they, they got reallyupset It was self preservation
at that point when he was, youknow, he had to then pick
another person to be on thetracks with him, and he picked
someone who Tawana then said,you know, we weren't even that
close of friends.
We didn't really get to knoweach other that well.
Right.
But, you know, she was just usedas bait, but it's like, well,
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what, what other strategy couldhe have used?
He would've had to pick someoneanyways.
Maybe he was trying to hope.
Yeah.
Okay.
Maybe you won't have to, it justmade tiawana feel worse about
Right.
I just kept thinking this couldhave happened to anyone.
This doesn't show his character.
Mm-hmm.
Like, I mean, yeah, sure.
He could have just sacrificedhimself and been like, oh, I'll
just take whoever along with me,but.
(16:33):
How is that?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I didn't see that as that.
Terrible.
And then JC and Queen likethought he was just being messed
up.
And then JC goes and takes amajority of the million six,
yeah, six,$600,000 or somethinglike that.
Just because he feels like his,his debt and his needs outweigh
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anyone else's, which.
Yeah, he had opposite of groupthink.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
He was just, he, I think hereally saw the money and was
like, I could walk, I literallycan pay off my debt and be okay.
And you know what?
I might have to feel like a badperson.
I might have to feel like this,but I think it was just too much
for him.
Yeah.
he couldn't deny it.
(17:16):
Mm-hmm.
And he just took it.
But, That I think was prettyshitty because they really could
have all just had a hundredthousand.
They really could have, I mean,he could have made that fair,
you know?
Well, and just how he, it reallyaffected the four or five people
after him too.
So it was like all seven peopleafter, and they had to really.
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And, and that, that I thinkreally showed too that some
people, like Emma, she was like,I'm not gonna take the full 20.
She was left with 27,000.
And JC was like, I wanna leaveEmma something.
You left her with 27,000 afterhe took 650,000.
But then it would also leave herlooking like a big jerk if she
took it all.
'cause then everyone else haszero.
And 27,000 is not at all whatthey were.
Like, they were kind of underthe impression of like, Hey,
(17:58):
let's just do a hundred thousandeasy.
You know, like We could buildmore trust here and Yeah.
But, at the same point, I don'tthink I could have taken more
than a hundred thousand duringthat, and especially'cause
people know it's you, it's notlike it's an, anonymous thing
where you're just saying, okay,well I'm gonna take this money
and everyone would know you'rethe one who took it.
(18:19):
Well, that's the thing is Jimmy,Mr.
Beast said, no one's gonna knowit's anonymous.
And he meant for that pointbecause he always twists things
around.
Yeah.
But then they found outafterwards.
So I think maybe JC felt like,why not if I can do this?
So maybe it was a little bit ofhis like, kind of like, I mean,
I understand, you know, you'vegot kids, you've got, you got, I
mean, but other people do too.
(18:40):
That definitely his.
His, self preservation justkicked in high drive there.
And maybe that's something thathe talked about, before he went
on, get that money at any cost.
And I mean, he only left Emma27,000 and then she took 5,000
and she was like, well, I justgot married and I wanted to help
my sister and this and that, butI'm not gonna take all the money
She's, you know, and theneverybody else was kind of.
(19:01):
Was pretty fair after that, theywere like, I'm not gonna take
all this, you know, and Split itup, but it was cruddy amount,
you know, 27,000 Yeah.
Compared to the, the million.
not that I would, I would loveto get$5,000 randomly, but I'm
just saying like, you know, inthat context, But yeah, I think
it was seeing how your moralcode can shift At different.
And I do not think that therewas somebody in here who was
(19:24):
just so noble, never cheated,never had to strategize.
Everybody had to at some point.
It's just that, Some people gota little luckier because they
maybe were not in certainpositions where they had to kind
of make a really tough choiceand look at really sacrificing
themselves.
you know, with Tijuana, maybethat was an exception.
But I do see that she also, Ithink she was kind of someone
(19:47):
who was very influential inbeing like, this is how you
should be, this is how you showintegrity.
She was very influential in thegroup moral code sort of,
because she just had thatnatural personality but who
knows how she would've been ifshe was in that same situation?
Yeah.
And, and I mean, she did take ahundred thousand, you know, so
she did show like, Hey, I amlooking out.
I do think she was trying to behonorable, but I, I think there
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were some situations like that,like the thing with, with jazz
and, and Dino, I just was like,that it wasn't personal.
I mean, it was just mm-hmm.
He was trying to save himself.
Yeah.
But, Yeah.
And, and also, you know, I, Ihave to say when they, for the
helicopter ride to the island,that gave me such anxiety about
like, oh my exclusion.
(20:29):
And like, who's gonna getpicked?
Yeah.
And like somebody said, theywere like, I feel like I'm back
in school.
I'm not getting picked forkickball.
And I was like, me too.
I'm not even there.
Yeah.
Well then, then you see everyonekind of like partying on the
boat and just having a good timewhen they're, you know, it's
like, and then the people who.
Going on the island, you know,if you don't win, you're getting
eliminated.
So it's such a gamble.
(20:50):
Yeah.
I mean, I would not wanna Randomisland.
You mean when they actually gotthere?
I was just talking even aboutthe helicopters to even get to
the island.
When they had to.
like how there was only like 10of'em or something, but there
was not enough seats for all of'em.
Like that gave me such like,because it's kind of like right
there, those are yourconnections or you enough of a
connection that you can getpicked on on that.
(21:12):
Yeah.
Jeremy, the preacher guy thateverybody like trusted, but some
people did not trust.
Some people said minority kindof cult culty, which I can
definitely see that.
he ended up giving to the, Ithink because he felt like,
well, I said I would look atfemale, so he gave it to the, to
this female that he said yourcharacter came through and she
was the one that when they wereblindfolded.
(21:33):
With the ball drop that wasshouting out numbers to people
up.
Yeah.
and he's like, he didn't have agood judge of character.
Yeah.
And that's what everyone waslike, what?
Yeah.
Of all the people, you choseher, you know?
'cause Yeah, she was very like,yeah.
Trying to destroy everyone'sgame.
And I think he maybe didn't knowthat at the time.
Like maybe he didn't realizethat, that it was her.
(21:53):
I know she did say before hepicked her, like she was like,
just pick a a, a girl, please.
Just any girl.
It doesn't have to be me.
You know?
So maybe he thought, oh, wellshe's a good person, but he
didn't know that.
So she must be good.
Yeah.
I think he just went based onvery kind of shallow predictions
because he probably didn't getto know a lot of the women.
Yeah.
He, it is just like a bro, brothing for him.
And the way he just kind of, washe an actual preacher?
(22:15):
Like was he, or was he, I don'tknow.
He just, I don't know.
It's funny'cause I've, I sawsomething saying like that he
was, and that it's like culty,but I don't know.
That's interesting.
cause you know, we like to talkabout cults too, so it all comes
back to it.
Maybe we could, if we find outmore information, we could talk
about his.
Quotation marks church orwhatever it is that he leads
(22:36):
church of something.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't wanna, I don't wannadisparage that.
But yeah.
yeah, no, I, I really think thatthis was, I have to say
honestly, overall, I got acreepy vibe from Mr.
Beast.
I think he has a, yeah.
I think he just has a very, hisaffect is very strange to me.
His reality is a little skewedthan everybody else's.
So he's probably used to beingthe center of attention and
(23:00):
having everything planned theway he wants it.
Based on his, YouTube.
And how he got famous andeverything.
And you could see that in that,like some of the games were not
planned out.
Well, we were talking about theywere kind of rushed.
It was still a fun, like 10episode seasons.
I mean, There's like a few thatwere kind of sloppy and you're
like, well, did he just rushthis?
Because he wants to get to thebig one and he has to have so
(23:21):
many, he still needs all thesepeople eliminated.
And that's what it felt like.
Yeah, I did the, I mean, it wascool, the production of like,
the city, the islands, thehelicopters, you know, it was
all very flashy and big, whichwas, you know, I hate to say it,
but like, that is what we lookfor sometimes.
But it also felt very over thetop at some points compared to
like, the weak trivia questionsthat he asked.
(23:42):
And yeah, it was just strange.
a little bit of like not havinga backup plan with some of the
games.
But also I think his crew and Iknow maybe we might not agree on
this.
I thought they were creepy too.
They didn't introduce them.
And they were just kind ofwearing black and they were kind
of like creeping around.
Yeah.
I don't know.
The two boys, I know they'reprobably not boys.
They're probably like 26 orsomething, but like They do look
(24:03):
young though.
they seemed.
Less creepy than the others.
'cause they actually seemed likethey tried to get friendships
with some of the, contestants.
Sometimes they were just kind oftaunting them though.
And heckling them.
Yeah.
And that was probably their job.
I just didn't get a good vibefrom them.
I just didn't really like itoverall.
But, in terms of that, with likethat being brought on, I thought
it was a little bit all over theplace.
Mm-hmm.
(24:24):
Like, couldn't tell.
How, was there like five ofthem, or six or four?
I don't, I don't know.
Yeah.
There's probably, didn't reallyknow their names, didn't really
know the connection that theyhad.
They, were they just hisfriends?
Yeah.
Like, were they best friends?
Do they all YouTube together?
Do they, you know, how do theyknow each other?
Maybe if like we watch some ofMr.
Beast, I just don't watch him.
I watch.
Yeah.
I don't watch Mr.
Beast.
I I, I am curious to now, butyeah, I haven't seen, I, I only
(24:47):
heard about it because my son,people at his class were talking
about Beast games, so then westarted watching it.
Mm.
Yeah.
Luck strategy, trust,manipulation.
Group individual dynamics youhave to take into account.
I don't know that there's oneformula for being able to win.
I think it is a lot of luck.
And likability and being able toknow how to proceed and some
(25:11):
Kind of, thinking on your feet.
Like the guy who won, what washis name, Jeff?
I think he had like ability, hehad the story.
he got to know everybody andthen at the end, he was just
really smart and in tune.
Like he was able to see how theother person, like, oh, how is
she acting?
What, how did she answer thequestions?
Which briefcase might she haveput?
(25:32):
Where you know is.
Yeah, he, he seemed to read bodylanguage and psychological kind
of cues very well, and mm-hmm.
I thought that was reallyimpressive, the way he picked
case number six.
Yeah.
And even how he answered and,you know, then paused and you
could tell, she was like, ah,crap, I was caught.
Or I, yeah, yeah.
I knew he wanted, when he saidlike, he was going towards six,
(25:55):
I was like, oh, no.
She definitely kind of gaveherself away.
Like, she thinks she's like kindof a, you know.
a brick wall.
And she's not giving off anyclues, but she definitely did
give a little bit of like, hereyes got a little, you could
just tell like she was a littlenervous.
And he, he also was, wasn't hethe one that hung in the
physical challenge with theother guy?
So he was, Jeff was prettyphysical too, so he was a lot, I
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thought it was a different guy.
I thought it was the tattooedguy and another skinny guy.
Oh, maybe.
Or maybe he was the pushup.
He was like the, like second inpushups or something.
Maybe I'm mixing'em up.
it was hard to tell sometimeswho was who, because there were
so many people at certainpoints.
But he, yeah, he had a lot ofabilities and he had like the
purpose, he had the story and,yeah.
Likability, I think people likedhim.
(26:36):
He was always in a group ofpeople.
'cause that was one thing too,where Mr.
Beast would watch to see who wasalone, who wasn't which
friendships they had or who theychose to hang out with.
Again, that's why even if you'rejust wanna play solitaire or
take a nap in the back, you kindof would wanna be seen or sit
with people or try to get toknow people.
(26:57):
Or maybe try to get to knowpeople that you wouldn't wanna
hang out with because it seemedlike that also, then he would
pit the friends together.
So start talking to people atdifferent times that you don't
even like.
So then he is like, look,they're friends and then they
eliminate your enemy.
Yeah.
But I mean, I think people arejust people and they're gonna
gravitate towards who theygravitate toward.
they have like this insane, likethousand.
(27:18):
Thousand cameras set up so theycould really analyze every
single detail.
they made a ruling on one of thechallenges with like the balls
dropping or whatever.
At first they thought one teamhad lost and then it ended up
being the other one.
'cause they caught on camera.
Somebody actually let the balldrop.
he let it touch the floor and itbounced so quickly up.
I guess they missed it the firsttime around, but then they saw
it on the cameras.
So that system and kind of thewatching that it's necessary
(27:41):
with that many people.
Mm-hmm.
And that much money.
For sure.
Yeah.
because he gave away a lot ofmoney.
There was a lot along the way.
There were offers of like, youknow, the million dollars for,
the four team leaders.
None of them took that.
I was very surprised that noneof'em took.
thought one of taken thatthought of them was gonna taken
'cause honestly,'cause that wasonly like day two or three.
It wasn't too far into it.
And then they have the four teamleaders looking at their groups
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and it's like, okay, well if youtake the million, you get to
keep the million and you're inthe game.
And then everyone in your groupis gone.
But they didn't even know themyet.
They were just all in the sameline as them.
So that that's'cause they didn'teven talk to each other.
Just like, okay, everyone standand stand over here.
Who's your group leader?
And.
So I'd be like, all right, bye.
See ya.
Yeah.
(28:26):
I mean it kind of, maybe youwould've felt like, like that
shame, but you know what wasthere is you are facing them and
they're all looking at you like,please, no, I depend on you.
Yeah.
And so that's reallypsychologically, like I think
that was honestly what kept themkind of like, Ooh, if I do this,
I'm really disappointing thesepeople and this feels so
shameful to be like up on aplatform.
(28:46):
Yeah.
People watching me take theirchance.
Away because I want this.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And so I think that may havebeen a deciding factor in that
overall.
Yeah.
Which is a really strong,whether you know the people or
not, it's like, like, so I thinkI, I, I see, I, I don't know.
I may have felt too shamed forthat, but logically it makes
sense.
You know?
it does.
But yeah.
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And so I think that's where alot of those four leaders
established a lot ofcredibility.
But then, yeah.
you know, Jeremy kind of becamethe, the, the preacher.
Like, people were like, eh, heis not really taking women.
And, one of'em lost in like the,the cube.
The cube gate.
Like he just naturally lost andYeah.
so I don't think any of thosepeople made it through Tiawana.
Tiana did.
Oh yeah.
(29:27):
Was the leader.
she, that was where I think shehad a good strategy in thinking,
I can really be liked by thisand trusted, but with the other
people.
There were other things thatpeople saw.
And with Dino, it was that thingon the train tracks.
And then they just completelyforgot about, oh, well, he's
trustworthy.
And you know, he was kind of ina bad, all of a sudden they were
like, all right, screw him.
We hate you.
(29:47):
And that's where the group thinkcomes in play too.
Yeah.
Even though, I mean, I'm prettysure most people would've done
that, so Yeah.
I don't know.
But Tiawana, I think, kind ofhad, she was the one that made
it through and Yeah.
I found out really strange thather number and the final three,
she was voted by the formercontestants as the person they
would've Gotten rid of.
Which she seemed to be the mostliked.
(30:09):
I don't know if it was'cause itwas anonymous or, like I said,
maybe the question was framed tothem, like, who would you not
want to compete against?
I don't know.
But I found that really odd.
She was the one.
And then Gge of course, who wasthe one that got them 10
million.
That coin flip that he took wasinsane.
'cause he could have beeneliminated or mm-hmm.
Just, you know, made a popbigger for someone that was not
(30:31):
him, which he ultimately did.
Yeah.
But a lot of, a lot ofpsychological elements, a lot of
mm-hmm.
You know, and people beingmanipulative to, to, you know,
try and.
during the, the city game withpeople trying to get votes and
everything and you know, peoplelying, people bribing people
with money.
Yeah.
(30:51):
You know, just to be able to geta seat and it's like, how, you
know, how far would you go?
That I would've totally messedup and been like, will you vote
for me?
I think, overall it was a goodwatch.
Very interesting to see whatpeople would do.
if you can see their integrity,but if you can really see, that
you are in line with being ableto get life changing money.
(31:15):
And I don't think that is reallynecessarily people's.
Character or dignity fully.
especially with, the way thingsare now in the world.
So I don't know that it's agreat measure of people and how
they truly Are, but maybe inseeing opportunity in these
places to be like, well,nobody's getting hurt.
Well, and it's also some oftheir most vulnerable things
(31:37):
too.
finances really make people.
Think and behave differentlythan they would in probably
normal day-to-day situations.
Yeah.
And in these offerings with someof the money, and of course the
final pot of 5 million, it canbe completely life changing for
(31:57):
people that they could pay downtheir debt, have a fresh start,
or, you know, start up abusiness for passive income
Wealth, right?
And setting up your family forgenerations.
Mm-hmm.
So that's a lot to think about.
It's not a, it's not a smallthing that, you know, saying
like, okay, maybe this clip ofme being a good person that'll
(32:20):
make me feel better.
Right.
That kind of thing, like thatwon't make me feel great.
In the end.
But, I do think.
I do, you know, I, I actually, Ikind of wonder if some people at
the beginning, the very firstepisode, if they thought if they
sacrificed themselves when theyweren't offered anything just
for the benefit of the team, ifthey thought maybe they would
get something or if maybe theyjust have that like guilt
(32:42):
complex of like, I don't deserveit, you know, kind of thing.
Yeah.
Or maybe they just felt thislike pressure of, I, I don't
wanna be here, this is too much.
I am kind of wondering what thatwas, I could see myself 10 years
ago, 15 years ago, getting inthat position.
I don't think I'd be there rightnow, but I definitely used to
have feelings like that Like Ifelt like, oh my gosh, I can't
take this.
(33:02):
This is too much and I don'tdeserve to be here.
These other people do it becomeslike a self worth thing of like,
not only am I putting otherpeople's needs first, I'm not
worthy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I kind of wonder if that waswhat was happening in that first
game with some people.
Oh, I'm sure some people, it mayhave been, maybe they felt like,
okay, this game isn't for me.
It's too much.
Yeah.
Or maybe some people thoughtthey would get something from
it.
I don't know.
But you never know what's gonnahappen.
(33:23):
There's so many twists andturns.
So they have to really preparefor that.
psychologically it takes you onsome twists and turns.
Mm-hmm.
It does.
It's a lot.
It is good.
Yeah.
So this brings me to a questionor a fun question.
Okay.
If you had to choose onechallenge to go through, out of
(33:46):
all the challenges, which onewould you want to do on B
schemes?
Hmm.
I think I'd probably do, I don't know, some of the
challenges in the tower in thecity looked pretty fun.
You know, some of those likewhere you're, you're with the
teams or you're, but I think Iprobably the train, even though
(34:10):
it's high anxiety, I think beingon top of the platform, figuring
out when I'm gonna pull it wouldbe really fun.
Okay.
Yeah, I could see that.
Yeah.
I think that would probably notbe, that would be the least one
I would wanna do because I wouldalways, I, I am a person who
(34:30):
questions like, did I do theright thing?
Right.
Even if I feel like I did, Iwill question myself.
So I actually think, oddlyenough, as much anxiety as this
would give me, I'd rather gowith like the chance games.
Well, it was a, you know, if Ihad to do it so that I, I
wouldn't have to like doubtmyself and be like, did I doubt
myself?
Did I, did I do this enough?
Right.
And, question myself.
(34:51):
Yeah.
But I, I think that's probablywhat I would do.
'cause it's like, well, whatelse could I do?
Yeah.
You know, like, it's not, it'snot of the like politics or
anything playing into it and.
You're just standing there.
I would not wanna do thestrength one, and all of a
sudden I have to do like 50pushups or something like that.
Like you pull a monster truck,you don't wanna pull a monster
truck and, or like feel likeyou're in the presidential
(35:12):
fitness thing or something.
Yeah.
These people, but then the groupthat you didn't think was gonna
win, because they seemed likethey were like smarter with
like, okay, let's just slow downand figure this out.
Yeah, I thought that wasinteresting.
It was a physical challenge, butyeah, they used their brains and
I kept saying, we were like, oh,like if you go back and you get
some momentum kind of thing.
(35:32):
We were both thinking that, butwe were like, but these people,
maybe that's how they, I don'tknow that that was a good thing.
They thought of that becausethat's what got them to win it.
But, yeah, so, let us know whatyou think.
Tanya watched the entire thingin like a couple days.
I, it took me, I think it tookme like two weeks.
So we would just do one episode,one or two episodes a night.
(35:52):
Which is the better way to doit, because I had so much
anxiety and it was just allcompounded.
Yeah.
Honestly.
But it's very addictive.
It's very addictive and it isvery adrenaline.
And it had our family havinglots of conversations.
I mean, we are talking a lotabout Mr.
Beast and just a lot of stuff.
I mean, which is, I mean, it's,that's the point, right?
(36:14):
So I mean, it was, it was fun.
Yeah, I don't think there'scertain game shows.
I'm like, I, I would like to seemyself on that one day, or if I
felt like it, I don't think I'dwanna be on Mr.
Beast.
I would go, but I don't think ifthere's a, there's probably a
rigorous process to get throughwith it.
I don't think I'd wanna gothrough that to do it.
(36:35):
And then, well, if I can get onit and then get eliminated like
the first day or two and stillbring home like 20,000 or
something like that, that'd befine.
Yeah, that'd be nice.
I think that'd be good.
I just don't, I don't wanna gothrough that whole thing.
And like, it's, honestly, it's alittle bit of psychological
warfare.
I really wouldn't want to gothrough that.
It's not fun, Yeah.
So, yeah, let us know what youthought.
If you watched it or if youwanna watch it, what you think,
(36:57):
if you would go on beach gamesor what challenges you liked,
which ones you didn't, peopleyou liked, you didn't, we didn't
go too much into the peoplebecause, they're numbered.
Yeah.
they're numbers.
But also I think It's up toeveryone's judgment on that.
And I think it's verycontextual.
It's kind of not fair to reallycall one person out.
it's a tough situation.
it's complex.
Plus we forgot a lot of theirnames, so Yeah, I don't know.
(37:19):
I didn't really know any oftheir names, honestly.
And I think that's the way thatMr.
B said it,'cause that's like 882or blah, blah blah.
So you're just numbers.
It was very dystopian squidgames ish with that.
Like referring to their numbersand the way he just talked to
them and yeah, it was very odd.
But, yeah, so, let us know whatyou think.
(37:40):
Don't forget to follow us on allthe socials, including YouTube,
which we are on as well.
We're not as big as Mr.
Beast, but we'll get there.
No, but we're getting there and,we're coming Mr.
Beast.
but, yeah, help write us areview with five stars.
We hope.
if you know, otherwise, maybe ifyou don't feel five stars, maybe
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