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In this episode of Wicked Psychotherapists, Tanya and Erin continue dissecting Adam Sandler's filmography by diving into his recent movies 'Murder Mystery' and 'Murder Mystery 2' on Netflix.
They discuss the evolution of Sandler's comedic style, the chemistry between Sandler and Jennifer Aniston, and the psychological themes within the film. Additionally, they analyze the interplay, motivations, and dynamics of the characters, comparing them to real-life scenarios.
Tune in to hear their thoughts on whether to choose a risky yacht adventure or a crowded bus tour in a hypothetical European vacation scenario.
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You are listening to WickedPsychotherapists, a podcast
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learning about mental healthdoesn't have to be wicked hat.
Erin (00:31):
Hey guys, it's Tanya.
Hi, it's Erin, and welcome toWicked Psychotherapist.
Yeah, so today we are continuingon in the Adam Sandler saga of
us.
dissecting his movies andwatching him.
we have another movie, this isfrom the New Era of Adam.
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This is like his latest film,murder Mystery, which, murder
Mystery One and Murder MysteryTwo are both on Netflix right
now these are the movies that hedid with Jennifer Aniston.
I think there's probably gonnabe more in the future we are
gonna be focusing on MurderMystery, mainly the first one,
but may, reference the secondone.
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so what did you think of thesemovies?
Like what, what was it incomparison to Adam's older style
of movies?
well, it's completely, I guessit's completely different I
think he and Jennifer did onemovie before this together?
I can't remember.
think so.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Maybe they did.
But it's a different thingbecause you're not sure how it's
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supposed to be.
they're both comedians in theirown right.
before this we only knowJennifer from Friends it was a
little different.
I wasn't sure how to get atfirst because you're, seeing him
kind of like not the person thateveryone's going to.
'cause in a lot of his othermovies, it's like, oh,
everyone's always drawn to him.
Or he has a group of friends.
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This one he has one friend andhis friend's covering up his lie
'cause he is kind of too ashamedto tell his wife what his truth
is.
So it's, I I, I kind of likedit.
I, I, first I wasn't sure how Iwould like it.
I didn't really love themustache, oh no.
Yeah, me neither.
But I did like it.
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it was good.
I did laugh out loud.
a couple times.
Yeah, I agree.
It's a more mature Adam, right?
it's a big leap from big daddy.
he is not making those sillyjokes.
he's a married man.
If anything, it's almost likethe relationship is between,
because Jennifer Anon and, andhimself, Audrey and Nick,
they're, they're married andmaybe a little bit in, a rut or
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feeling like they're doing thesame things over and over.
he's made these promises to herto like, take her on this
European vacation since theirhoneymoon.
They've been married like 15years since it still hasn't
happened.
you know, they have the sameroutines.
There's, you could tell likejust in watching their, their
nightly rituals that they're, ina pattern of being a married
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couple.
Right.
and he still, I think I actuallyreally appreciated that.
the comedy they played off ofeach other.
I liked their chemistry, which Iwas surprised I did, because I
don't think of Jennifer Aniston,and this may just be me.
I know her obviously fromfriends, but I know the movie
she's been in, which I, I'm nota huge fan of that genre that
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she tends to fall in kind of therom commish movies, you know?
she kind of tends to be more oflike a sort of scatterbrained
character who's not reallyfunny, but sort of maybe is But
not like direct directly funny.
Yeah.
And so I think it was a littlebit of a change up for her.
I actually think she did prettygood.
I think she was funny.
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I liked her character in this.
she's really into murdermystery.
She reads murder mystery novelsand, that's her passion.
She's a hairdresser and, NickAdam Sandler is, he's a cop and
he has failed his detectivesexam like three times and he's
told Yeah.
His wife is a detective.
Yeah.
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And he's just lying to herbasically.
and there's something to that.
I think he feels like shame anddisappointment, but I think he
also feels like pressure, right.
Of like mm-hmm.
You know, there's kind of,nothing has really changed.
Yeah.
And he probably feels that fromhis wife.
And so he kind of feels like,oh, this would be something to
be excited about.
And something different.
Well, and also with his bestfriend, his best friend, they
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have the same job, but his bestfriend's able to save and get
his wife diamonds.
And Nick is so predictable wherethe best friend's wife is like,
oh, I bet, you know, like, oh,I'm surprised you, you're,
you're not just giving her anAmazon gift card.
Meanwhile, he had just boughtthe Amazon gift card.
Hannah's like, Ugh, I need to,Not give her the card right now.
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Audrey is not very happy with,his being romantic, his being
thoughtful in the relationship,gestures that have maybe fallen
by the wayside, or never livedup to, their honeymoon.
so he decides to say, okay,well, I guess I have to give her
the European trip.
So he's like, all right, we'regonna Europe.
Like, that's the big surprisebecause she, she just kind of
seems so disappointed and like,come on, you know, you've never
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really done anything and we'venever gone to Europe.
And he is like, that was thesurprise we're going.
And, more spontaneously than sherealizes he has to plan a trip
to Europe.
it's very much on a budget.
they're not in first class, justin, regular economy which looks
pretty nice to me, honestly.
he has a bus tour planned, whichis tough in Europe and all this
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stuff.
But on the plane, Audrey meetsthis, she's kind of wandering
around, she's looking for earplugs.
'cause Nick is snoring andthey're like, oh,$9.
And she's like, screw this.
So she just kind of goes andfinds some in first class, and
then it's kind of hanging aroundjust eating the, the pistachios
or whatever, just like, and thensome, some guy chats are up.
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And then this is how thestoryline jumps in from here.
Mm-hmm.
cause this guy is, he'sactually, the son of a very
wealthy billionaire or whatever.
very well known, apparentlybecause Audrey knows him.
start to talk, they seem alittle flirty.
Nick comes up because he iswoken up from his nap, and he's
seeing that.
you see a little bit of tensionin their marriage, right?
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Like, she's kind of, flirtybecause she feels emotionally
neglected Maybe he's just notthe most romantic.
he feels that pressure andshame.
but can't live up to what sheneeds.
so there's that setup.
with them.
the guy they meet, I cannotremember his name.
Is it Charles?
Charles or something?
The nephew?
I, yeah.
I can't remember.
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I'll have to look it up later.
Well, the nephew of the RichDude, Malcolm.
He, invites them.
He's like, when you guys get offthe plane, you can come on my
yacht with my family.
And there's all these screwed updynamics there.
But you can come.
It's Charles, you're right,Charles.
And then, Nick is like, no,Absolutely not.
And then when they get off theplane, he sees the bus tour and
It's packed.
It looks like they're packed inlike sardines.
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It's so not luxurious.
And they're thinking, oh, ayacht might be nice.
Families are arguing, it justseems like it would be
difficult.
And he is like, all right, we'lldo it.
We'll go on the, yeah.
Which I gotta say, I'm not a fanof meeting somebody.
And then, you know, if, and notlike this has ever happened,
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that I've ever met someone,they've been like, come on my
yacht.
But, you know, I think I wouldbe nervous and apprehensive,
especially with all the truecrime I watch and what we were
just talking about before.
Mm-hmm.
you know, with kind of going onsomeone's yacht, just going out
to see and not knowing theperson.
But I have to say, I thinkseeing that bus tour, I may have
just taken that chance.
I don't know.
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I think I might have.
Well, and especially if it'slike that, and it's not just the
bus tour to your hotel, youknow, you're gonna be with these
people for your whole week.
That could be, yeah.
It's like a very, and you couldtell there's no air
conditioning.
The windows are down.
I've done bus tours and, andlike, just traveling from one
place to the next and adifferent country.
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It was in Asia and it was, itwas horrendous.
Like it was horrendous.
I can't even imagine just beingthe whole week on that bus.
they decide to take Charles upon his offer, and then they come
into this whole different familydynamic that they're not aware
of.
what I like about, about Audreyand Nick, Adam Sandler and
Jennifer Anderson, is they kindof are very, like, it's al it
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almost is like, they're watchinga TV show.
They're just like, oh, Look atthat.
They're so excited.
They love that.
And they're kind of just talkingand gossiping to each other
about it.
It's such a fun experience forthem, even though they're like,
this is awkward.
And there's a lot of weirdfamily dynamics They're just
like, mm-hmm.
Oh yeah, definitely.
they're enjoying theentertainment of it.
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I don't know.
I kind of was trying to putmyself in the position.
I was like, would I go on thatyacht?
Like I know it sounds like, oh,yeah, you definitely would.
But you don't know those peopleas well.
and that kind of sounds likejust the beginning of a murder
mystery.
True crime.
Like a literal murder mystery.
True crime story.
So then we meet the cast ofpeople on the yacht.
There's a bunch of people onthere.
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there's the nephew, Charles'ex-fiance, who was now dating
his rich billionaire uncle, oris now married to, I'm sorry.
but that was his ex-fiance.
So there's that dynamic she's inher early twenties.
very young.
and then there's a movie starwho is a benefactor of the
billionaire or something.
Yeah.
grace Gracie Grace.
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Yeah.
And then also the billionaireson, Toby, Tobias, whatever.
as well as the colonel who savedthe billionaire's life, and the
bodyguard for the colonel, whois this big, scary looking dude.
so there's, you know, all thesecast of characters on there.
Oh.
And the, the race car driver,Juan Carlos I think, or Carlos.
(09:43):
Mm-hmm.
Juan, I don't, I don't rememberhis name, but he supposedly
doesn't speak English.
He is responding in set forms oflike Yes.
Very fast.
Like just kind of race carterms.
Yeah.
but it's, it's so funny to mebecause Nick and Audrey don't
feel awkward being there.
it's such a random set ofpeople, but also like a family
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and they just kind of like, goand they're like, oh yeah, hi,
we're the spits.
they're not even like, oh,should we not be here?
This is really awkward andweird.
They're just so excited.
About the adventure of it.
I think that's where both oftheir professions probably come
in play too, because, you know,she Audrey's used to talking to
strangers all the time andgetting information being a
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hairstylist Kind of a therapist.
and Nick too probably has totalk to a lot of people being a
police officer and knowingpeople and getting information
from people.
So just by being like, Hey,yeah, we're just gonna be here.
we're not nervous and we're justgonna be part of it.
It's probably normal for themYeah.
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it's funny because Nick ends upbeing that, Malcolm flies on
board with his helipad, on theyacht.
makes his entrance and is like,oh, we're gonna have a family
meeting about the will orwhatever.
And he, you know, is like, andwho are you to the spits?
They introduce themselves andthey're like, do you want us to
leave?
And he is like, no, it's fine.
Like, he's totally fine with himjust being there about this very
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personal, he's like, he's, youcan hear situation, you can hear
me tearing everyone down, andthat's fine.
he is very disappointed ineveryone.
So he is, planning on signingthe will to leave everything to
his, his wife, the like 20something year old, former
fiance of his nephew.
And right before he goes to signit, the lights go out just like
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a murder mystery.
And, he's stabbed to death, withthe, dagger that was on board.
it made me think, have you everbeen to a murder mystery before?
I have.
years ago I went to, a dinnershow type of thing.
I remember going with my mom andmy sister it was kind of fun.
just like a murder mysterydinner type.
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you know, they acted out on, Idon't know if they acted out on
stage or around you, but it waskind of fun.
there used to be a train onethat I've always wanted to go
on, like a murder mystery dinnershow train that always seemed
fun.
Oh, yeah.
Kind of like the Orient Express,sort of like Aha Christie Yeah.
those are, I always wanted to goto one, I just went to a Golden
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Girls themed one My sisterbrought me and it was really
cool.
it wasn't a dinner though, justkind of a show or whatever.
Okay.
And they did act all around usand they were like in the
character of The Golden Girls.
'cause I'm obsessed with theGolden Girls, if you don't know
this.
and it was really funny.
it was fun.
it wasn't a serious murdermystery one.
It was more like, just kind ofsilly.
But I loved it.
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I thought it was great.
it was kind of typical if youwent to one of those shows where
the lights go out and then youhave to put together the clues.
But yeah, I think that, youknow, the murder mystery
element, really falls, true to amurder mystery.
and Audrey is really into it andexcited, about the mystery, not
obviously about the, the, themurder she's so into all the
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clues and everything.
And she's right there.
I think it's funny when thefirst murder happens, Audrey is
like, oh, Nick's a detective.
he'll be able to solve it.
And then everyone's like, well,what do we do?
They pull out the knife and thenput it back in, He's like, no,
no, don't do that.
Let's not do that.
Definitely don't do that.
But it is nice the relationshiphow even through all of this,
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they're still trying to be,she's very supportive of him and
he's trying to be, you know,like even what, there are times
throughout the movie that hewell, she's just a hairdresser,
just hair stylist.
But you kind of watch theirprogression of their
relationship and it's kind ofnice.
I do like their communicationwith each other.
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I do too.
there's points where youdefinitely see some tension, but
I think it's very typicaltension of a marriage, I think
he's got a lot of insecurity andshame around the fact that he
can't pass this detective exam.
she is, very interested inthese, these clues and Yeah.
And she's trying to be like, ohyeah, he can figure it out.
It actually is like kind of moreher that's, that's into it and
kind of sees the clues she readsa lot of murder mystery and
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everything, so she's kind oflike, it's in her brain as a fun
thing.
she's very, into the wholeelement of it.
even like jumping ahead, likewhen they're in the library,
she's like, this is, it's likedeath in the library.
It's like, what?
You know, like what She's likeliving out her books and, murder
mysteries.
it's kind of a fun thing forthem, but they're also scared
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because it seems like somebodyis trying to get to them and
possibly kill them.
So they're worried about that,but they're still having fun
it's funny because there's astagnancy in their marriage that
they can see that's probablyjust very typical of like, you
know, they've been together foralmost two decades.
Right.
You know, and they're like,probably just trying to find a
little spice And so this is likean adventure for them.
and they're working together andit's a unique experience they
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can share.
it really is just the rightmedicine, for what they need.
then it turns out they thinkit's Malcolm's, son that
murdered him, no, it's Nick thatthinks that, and then he ends up
getting murdered next.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Then he's like, whoops.
'cause it's not him.
Yeah.
It's because Audrey was kind oflike, sort of dispute.
She was like, I don't know.
That seems too obvious, youknow?
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and then the bodyguard of thecolonel shows up and starts
talking to them and saying heknows who it is and thinks it's,
the colonel, right?
Mm-hmm.
Does he think it's the colonel?
Yeah.
Because he lost his wife andchild, in an attack or
something.
Mm-hmm.
He had to protect him.
Yeah.
so maybe he's like, just alwayswanted vengeance on him or
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something.
'cause he lost like the love ofhis life, he and his child, and
then the bodyguard himself endsup getting shot through the
door, which was.
probably meant for the spits.
Yeah.
And so they, they're like, oh,yeah.
And I could not understand whythe spits were the target,
unless they, well, because he'sa detective and she kind of is
unravel in the clues.
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They just didn't want them tofigure it out.
Like, why were the killers afterthem?
I think they thought they wouldget in the way.
They were that unplanned factorof like, You might solve it.
And they realized how Audrey wasgetting so into like, oh my
gosh, no, we need to figure thisout, Right.
And I think they probably werelike, okay, let's take care of
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them.
And that's why they got thatmessage to go to that room where
they met.
the bodyguard and, you know, andthen it ends up the bodyguards
up getting shot.
And then, yeah.
And then people just end up,getting knocked down in this
whole party.
They end up landing in France.
there's a detective that getsintroduced called Di de Laqua.
Lauren de Laqua, you know, he isvery French, very old school
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detective.
And he's, just kind of useless.
he's not really doing anything.
he's having, the couple do allthe work yet he's suspicious of
them.
And, you know, very much raggingon, Nick, that he's not a
detective even goes on TV beinglike, he is not a detective,
even though he representshimself as that.
So there's, all these peoplethat end up getting killed off
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from the party because they'reall being questioned as to
what's going on.
some people are still assumingit's them as the Americans.
They're kind of this new factorthat's involved, and all these
murders are happening, everybodyelse has been together before.
Right.
So they think, Who are they?
I did like the way that themovie was, created.
'cause there were times I waslike, wait a minute, is the
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detective actually behind all ofthis?
Is this person?
I never once thought, the twopeople who we find out did it,
did it.
it's pretty well done, for acomedy too.
like, you're like, wait aminute, I didn't really even see
this.
And I've seen this movie acouple times and I did not
remember how it ended or whathappened Very dysfunctional
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family and friends, And a lot ofpeople might want vengeance on
Malcolm because of, all thesethings.
There's so many people hadmotives and just kind of being
like, who is the person thatwould want it the most?
And also figuring out Grace'ssecret, which, if you've seen
this movie, there's a spoileralert in this.
so you know it.
It tells not like this is such ahuge mystery, because it's not
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like, you know, it's a comedylike you said, I actually forgot
too.
I had re-watched this pastweekend I don't know if I was
starting to remember or justlike really realize it probably
'cause I was remembering who itwas, like towards the middle.
but I did forget too.
mm-hmm.
So, yeah.
But we, we start to, you know,there's all these antics going
on where the couple is, tryingto work out who's who they're
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trying to save people.
running through differentcountries in Europe at some
point.
They're in Italy.
they're trying to figure out,who wants people dead?
Meanwhile, the French inspectorthinks it's the couple.
Mm-hmm.
the spits and everything.
people just keep getting knockedoff each time.
we learned later that it was thekiller who was trying to get to
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the couple, but it's just theseother people that got in the
way.
I think what's really importantis, yeah, like you said, like
seeing how the spits has kind ofcome together in this.
They're really kind of excitedby this at first.
Nick is not super excited aboutit.
He's like, oh, I'm gonna getsome sleep And she's like, how
can you sleep?
she's so excited about it.
it's kind of like, it reigniteshis thinking about, his
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investigative skills What he iscapable of and everything.
they make a pretty good team.
he starts realizing that maybe,not everyone is able to take
tests either.
taking the detective tests likethree or four times, maybe
that's not his forte, but hedoes definitely have the skills
to be a detective and maybe alsohis wife.
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Leaning on his wife helped himwith it.
And realizing how strong theirmarriage is and how strong their
communication is with eachother.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, definitely, definitelyreconnected them.
And I think f found a new, a newspace for.
Being able to kind ofcommunicate with some of these
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things that were maybe beinghidden by both of them.
you know, her disappointment,which, I think was being shown
in different ways, wasn'thidden, he was feeling that, and
then he was feeling like he hadto hide that.
so it kind of reconnected andput that out in the open it
helped their marriage out.
It helped them out as a couple,and it bonded them in their
shared adventure and experience.
Yeah.
but they both really seem tolove and enjoy at the end.
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yeah.
Which even I, I think it wasinteresting at the end, when
she's driving the, the car andsome other stuff happens, and
then he mentioned, you know,then he is proud and he says
like, you know, well, because,you know, she's, you know, well,
she's driving the car and she'sdoing a great job.
And he's like, you're soawesome.
then at the very end when shesays this clue about the person,
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You wouldn't put a hat on if youjust got your hair done.
And everyone's like, well, howwould you even know that?
And he's like, because she's ahairstylist.
Like he's all proud of it now,instead of saying you're just a
hairstylist or you just do hair.
He's giving her, credit and thatshe would be aware of that.
Yeah.
And so they definitely are ableto appreciate each other more
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from this experience.
And they do, they do figure itout.
They figure out, that, grace isactually the daughter that never
died in childbirth and she'skind of this, illegitimate
child, who survived and cameback to claim this fortune.
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And she was working with therace car driver, is it Carlos
Juan or Juan Carlos?
I don't remember.
But the one that he can't reallyspeak English supposedly.
very fast.
So they catch grace and thenthey think it's over.
But then there's a clue at theend where, Audrey says something
in English and the race cardriver, responds And like he's
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understood when the whole movie,he has not understood at all.
he says like, ADA, like, oh,you're welcome.
Like he fully understood her andshe's like, wait a minute.
And then she like, like youspeak English?
Yeah, yeah.
He's like, of course I do.
You idiots and your Latin sucks.
And he's like, Hey.
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Yeah.
And so they, they, they figureit out, you know, they kind of
partner together.
And, Audrey, she's got a lot of,a lot of skills, but so does,
you know, so does Nick.
He and they both kind of realizetheir, their potential in that
and, you know, that they areable to, to work together and to
rediscover things about eachother And move themselves past
that stagnancy and tension.
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so it's kind of like themicroscopic and the macroscopic
stuff going on in the story,It's also really funny.
It's, got some really funnypoints.
Adam has some, some zingersometimes that he just kind of
says off the cuff that I amlike, if I hadn't heard that, I
wouldn't have caught that.
But he said he mumbles them andthey're pretty funny.
at various points throughout thefirst and the second one.
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but yeah.
And, and the second one werealized, they start, you know,
a, a private, investigator,business together.
they're struggling, but thenthey get an invite from the
Maharaja.
Oh, he's another character.
We totally forgot about him.
Yeah.
Maharaja, he's, yeah, he's, he'sjust like, they're, they're,
they're, you know, and the firstone, he was just very, he, he
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was kind of there for comicrelief.
He spoke, interestingly and wasreally funny, but he ended up
being just like a pretty, prettygood guy, you know, but he ends
up getting kidnapped in thesecond one, and it's a whole
chase and figuring out, thedifferent clues for that.
Mm-hmm.
all along the way, you know, asimilar plot, but with different
details.
(23:20):
Yeah.
I don't remember the second one.
I'll have to rewatch it.
some other time.
But yeah, the way they set himup you almost think he's gonna
be the villain throughout all ofit, he just, you're like, oh
gosh, But that's probably who hereally is.
And yeah, there's a couplepeople who I thought like, okay,
they're all, well, I guess it'skind of like the movie Clue.
Like, who is it gonna be?
(23:41):
Oh yeah.
And then Adam says, oh, it wasthe Butler.
I said It was the Butler,because her last name Grace
Butler.
At the end of the first one,he's like, didn't I say that on
the plane?
The Butler always does it.
that was pretty funny.
it's a pretty good murdermystery, but it's also really
funny.
if you love Adam, if you loveJennifer Aniston, they really do
play off of each other.
Well, I didn't think there wouldbe that level of chemistry, but
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they're actually, pretty good.
I did see after these moviescame out, that people loved to
watch them to hate them.
Did you see those reviews?
No.
apparently people thought thatthese movies were not the
greatest, but they loved them.
It was kind of like a cultfollowing I guess they
appreciated something aboutthem, but they didn't think they
were that great.
And that's kind of what, Adamand, Jennifer Aniston, are
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trying to embrace, I thinkthey're planning on making more
movies.
Okay.
maybe that's kind of like how,how like the movie Shark NATOs
and those stupid movies, likewhere it's like they're so bad
that they just keep having moreand more, but, and then
eventually the people startembracing like, okay, this is so
cheesy, or this is just so bad.
I haven't heard that about themurder mysteries, but I guess, I
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guess I can see it though'causeit is kind of cheesy.
Like I even, we even mentionedhis cheesy mustache It's very
predictable.
We're on a cruise and someone'sgonna die.
How are we gonna solve it?
but I actually like that.
And then they leave at the veryend.
They're on the Orient Express,Which is kind of funny.
when I first saw these, I waskind of like, oh, those were
cheesy.
But when I watched it again, inthe lens of what we would talk
(25:10):
about with the couple stuff andsome of these other themes and
embracing it for what it is.
It is kind of goofy and silly,but fun I like them.
I think that's what people leanon.
They're like, it's not a greatwork of cinematography, but it's
fun.
Right?
Yeah.
You know, kind of thing.
which I think is probably, Idon't think that that's all that
bad from what Adam Sandler wouldwant.
(25:30):
I don't think he was meaning forthis to be some great work of
art.
as long as people had fun heprobably knew there was a lot of
goofiness to this.
But, I do think there, were somedecent movies with some pretty
decent themes.
All the interplay between thecharacters.
Right.
You know, like who done it,finding people's motives.
Very psychological, you know,how people are trying to suspect
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other people maybe take theblame off themselves or just
come up with a suspect, whatpeople do for money.
Motives.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
Or revenge, like the race cardrivers.
'cause his father had raced andlost his legs or whatever, so he
wanted Revenge for that.
but I think these movies aredefinitely a ways away from his
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early movies.
I think that's maybe what Ididn't like at first I was kind
of comparing it to his earlymovies when the first time I
watched it and I was like, thisis weird.
And it's very much an evolutionof who he is he's gotta make
different types of movies and healso grows up and has different
ways of expressing his humor,He's trying out different
(26:35):
characters and different plots.
I could appreciate that morebecause of our Adam discussions,
this time around.
But yeah.
so do, you remember, the firsttime you watched it, were you
super surprised it was Grace andthe race car driver?
I was, and I was surprised thistime too because I didn't
remember.
'cause the race car driver justlooked so nice and so dumb and
(26:59):
you just picture like, oh, he'shelping but then when you go
back and it's like, oh no, he istripping him and he was doing
this but yeah, I was surprised.
I wasn't as surprised'causeGrace kind of seemed like there
was something up with her, but Ididn't expect the race car
driver.
What about you?
Yeah, no, I think the first timearound, I don't really remember,
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but I started to suspect, therace car driver because he did
seem, I was like, that justseems really silly that he can
only say those words, it justseemed a little too overplayed.
But I was like, I don't reallyknow the motive why, but it was
a surprise.
I was like, oh, okay, so it'sthese two.
I still kind of didn't, rightbefore they said it the first
(27:41):
time, I think.
And the second time I did forgetup until the, the middle part,
and then I was kind of like, ohyeah, I think I forgot about the
race car driver, but Iremembered Grace.
it's a really, fun set of moviesand it looks like the ending of
the second one.
It looks like there would be athird one.
There's definitely a lead in forthat.
I don't know if they've saidthat, but there definitely is a
lead in for that.
(28:02):
So might have to look for thatsomewhere down the road if
that's ever going to happen.
But yeah.
So, anything else you wanna addto the.
Discussion?
No, I mean, I guess if we'rethinking about psychological or
anything, I guess one thing withNick and Audrey is like, maybe
Nick could have been a littlemore honest at the beginning and
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maybe some of this wouldn't haveturned out as, you know,'cause
they wouldn't have beentargeting them as much.
The detective and his wife, theywould've just been like two
people that were invited andthey might not have had everyone
want to kill them as much.
'cause then Audrey would've beenlike, oh yeah, Nick isn't a
(28:43):
detective and we'll just kind ofsit back.
But I'm sure she couldn't havehelped it.
She probably wanted to get rightin on it no matter what, because
of her fascination and obsessionwith the murder mysteries.
Yeah.
And I mean, he still is a coptoo, right?
I think when people hear cop,they're like, oh, they kind of
just blend all them together.
So, yeah.
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that's a possibility.
Definitely.
So, now to come to our question,which the only one I could
really think of is the same oneI asked you before.
if you were presented with thechance, of going to Europe and
you knew that the next weekwould be on a, a bus with the
tours, Gonzalez tours.
I think it was Okay.
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and, you know, it's, it seemsvery crowded or, going on this
nice yacht but with completestrangers where there's a
possibility you could get, youknow, thrown overboard or you
don't, you don't know who thesepeople are.
They could be traffickers, youknow what I mean?
That type of thing.
Right.
Which do you think you wouldchoose?
(29:46):
So does the bus have airconditioning or is it like, it
is in the movie with the windowsopen and it's probably
summertime I'm gonna say thatthere's probably some air
conditioning.
I think the bus would probablyhave air conditioning, let's say
that.
Yeah, I know it's in the movie,but I don't think I'd wanna be
on a bus tour for my entiretrip.
'cause I've done the bus toursbefore, like, oh, we're going to
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visit this, historic somethingand it's like an hour, You're
going there, you're going backto your hotel Not for the entire
week.
I don't think I can handle a bustour.
I'd get sick.
it would just be really, noteven just all the same people
over and over, the boat wouldseem more appealing.
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But I also would want thefreedom to get off the boat.
And I think in either instance,you can't, if you're dictated
with the boat, you know, whereyou're going.
And same with the bus.
but it's also like, you don'tknow these people on the yacht.
you meet someone in person.
Yeah, that's true.
You don't know anyone.
And at least the bus tour, youknow, it's a little bit more
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legitimate.
if it was real life, I wouldprobably take the bus tour
because I would know okay, atleast I'm going to my hotel.
I can choose to go on the bustour every day or not.
'cause they'll pick me up at thehotel or I can just walk around
town Yeah.
I think I would choose the same,because it, although I would
love, like the yachts a hundredpercent seems more appealing,
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but like you, I mean, it justseems like the start of every
murder mystery, or traffickingcase.
I think we know too much aboutthat now people disappear and
You don't know these people.
There's all this strange, moneyinvolved and people can
disappear and not even know,like, oh, that wasn't the plan,
so where did they go?
You know, there wouldn't be anytrace of you.
Right.
I think that would be way toorisky.
Although, of course I'd ratherbe on a yacht.
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It's just the circumstances ofnot knowing the people and not
Really knowing what's going onthere, which they didn't, I
don't think I would've, I don'tthink I would choose and, and
just like you, yeah.
I think I'd probably just belike, okay, maybe we can choose
to go on the bus or not.
Maybe we could do our own thing,a bus tour does not sound
appealing to me.
I'd rather just figure somethingelse out outside of that.
(31:55):
that's probably, because I'vewatched so much true crime and
we're aware of the things thatcan happen.
No, I agree.
that, did look real nice.
so, all right.
So yeah, don't forget to followus on Instagram, all the
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Erin (00:31):
Hey guys, it's Tanya.
Hi, it's Erin, and welcome toWicked Psychotherapist.
Yeah, so today we are continuingon in the Adam Sandler saga of
us.
dissecting his movies andwatching him.
we have another movie, this isfrom the New Era of Adam.
(00:51):
This is like his latest film,murder Mystery, which, murder
Mystery One and Murder MysteryTwo are both on Netflix right
now these are the movies that hedid with Jennifer Aniston.
I think there's probably gonnabe more in the future we are
gonna be focusing on MurderMystery, mainly the first one,
but may, reference the secondone.
(01:11):
so what did you think of thesemovies?
Like what, what was it incomparison to Adam's older style
of movies?
well, it's completely, I guessit's completely different I
think he and Jennifer did onemovie before this together?
I can't remember.
think so.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Maybe they did.
But it's a different thingbecause you're not sure how it's
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supposed to be.
they're both comedians in theirown right.
before this we only knowJennifer from Friends it was a
little different.
I wasn't sure how to get atfirst because you're, seeing him
kind of like not the person thateveryone's going to.
'cause in a lot of his othermovies, it's like, oh,
everyone's always drawn to him.
Or he has a group of friends.
(01:53):
This one he has one friend andhis friend's covering up his lie
'cause he is kind of too ashamedto tell his wife what his truth
is.
So it's, I I, I kind of likedit.
I, I, first I wasn't sure how Iwould like it.
I didn't really love themustache, oh no.
Yeah, me neither.
But I did like it.
(02:13):
it was good.
I did laugh out loud.
a couple times.
Yeah, I agree.
It's a more mature Adam, right?
it's a big leap from big daddy.
he is not making those sillyjokes.
he's a married man.
If anything, it's almost likethe relationship is between,
because Jennifer Anon and, andhimself, Audrey and Nick,
they're, they're married andmaybe a little bit in, a rut or
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feeling like they're doing thesame things over and over.
he's made these promises to herto like, take her on this
European vacation since theirhoneymoon.
They've been married like 15years since it still hasn't
happened.
you know, they have the sameroutines.
There's, you could tell likejust in watching their, their
nightly rituals that they're, ina pattern of being a married
(02:56):
couple.
Right.
and he still, I think I actuallyreally appreciated that.
the comedy they played off ofeach other.
I liked their chemistry, which Iwas surprised I did, because I
don't think of Jennifer Aniston,and this may just be me.
I know her obviously fromfriends, but I know the movie
she's been in, which I, I'm nota huge fan of that genre that
(03:18):
she tends to fall in kind of therom commish movies, you know?
she kind of tends to be more oflike a sort of scatterbrained
character who's not reallyfunny, but sort of maybe is But
not like direct directly funny.
Yeah.
And so I think it was a littlebit of a change up for her.
I actually think she did prettygood.
I think she was funny.
(03:38):
I liked her character in this.
she's really into murdermystery.
She reads murder mystery novelsand, that's her passion.
She's a hairdresser and, NickAdam Sandler is, he's a cop and
he has failed his detectivesexam like three times and he's
told Yeah.
His wife is a detective.
Yeah.
(03:58):
And he's just lying to herbasically.
and there's something to that.
I think he feels like shame anddisappointment, but I think he
also feels like pressure, right.
Of like mm-hmm.
You know, there's kind of,nothing has really changed.
Yeah.
And he probably feels that fromhis wife.
And so he kind of feels like,oh, this would be something to
be excited about.
And something different.
Well, and also with his bestfriend, his best friend, they
(04:18):
have the same job, but his bestfriend's able to save and get
his wife diamonds.
And Nick is so predictable wherethe best friend's wife is like,
oh, I bet, you know, like, oh,I'm surprised you, you're,
you're not just giving her anAmazon gift card.
Meanwhile, he had just boughtthe Amazon gift card.
Hannah's like, Ugh, I need to,Not give her the card right now.
(04:40):
Audrey is not very happy with,his being romantic, his being
thoughtful in the relationship,gestures that have maybe fallen
by the wayside, or never livedup to, their honeymoon.
so he decides to say, okay,well, I guess I have to give her
the European trip.
So he's like, all right, we'regonna Europe.
Like, that's the big surprisebecause she, she just kind of
seems so disappointed and like,come on, you know, you've never
(05:03):
really done anything and we'venever gone to Europe.
And he is like, that was thesurprise we're going.
And, more spontaneously than sherealizes he has to plan a trip
to Europe.
it's very much on a budget.
they're not in first class, justin, regular economy which looks
pretty nice to me, honestly.
he has a bus tour planned, whichis tough in Europe and all this
(05:25):
stuff.
But on the plane, Audrey meetsthis, she's kind of wandering
around, she's looking for earplugs.
'cause Nick is snoring andthey're like, oh,$9.
And she's like, screw this.
So she just kind of goes andfinds some in first class, and
then it's kind of hanging aroundjust eating the, the pistachios
or whatever, just like, and thensome, some guy chats are up.
(05:45):
And then this is how thestoryline jumps in from here.
Mm-hmm.
cause this guy is, he'sactually, the son of a very
wealthy billionaire or whatever.
very well known, apparentlybecause Audrey knows him.
start to talk, they seem alittle flirty.
Nick comes up because he iswoken up from his nap, and he's
seeing that.
you see a little bit of tensionin their marriage, right?
(06:07):
Like, she's kind of, flirtybecause she feels emotionally
neglected Maybe he's just notthe most romantic.
he feels that pressure andshame.
but can't live up to what sheneeds.
so there's that setup.
with them.
the guy they meet, I cannotremember his name.
Is it Charles?
Charles or something?
The nephew?
I, yeah.
I can't remember.
(06:28):
I'll have to look it up later.
Well, the nephew of the RichDude, Malcolm.
He, invites them.
He's like, when you guys get offthe plane, you can come on my
yacht with my family.
And there's all these screwed updynamics there.
But you can come.
It's Charles, you're right,Charles.
And then, Nick is like, no,Absolutely not.
And then when they get off theplane, he sees the bus tour and
It's packed.
It looks like they're packed inlike sardines.
(06:50):
It's so not luxurious.
And they're thinking, oh, ayacht might be nice.
Families are arguing, it justseems like it would be
difficult.
And he is like, all right, we'lldo it.
We'll go on the, yeah.
Which I gotta say, I'm not a fanof meeting somebody.
And then, you know, if, and notlike this has ever happened,
(07:10):
that I've ever met someone,they've been like, come on my
yacht.
But, you know, I think I wouldbe nervous and apprehensive,
especially with all the truecrime I watch and what we were
just talking about before.
Mm-hmm.
you know, with kind of going onsomeone's yacht, just going out
to see and not knowing theperson.
But I have to say, I thinkseeing that bus tour, I may have
just taken that chance.
I don't know.
(07:30):
I think I might have.
Well, and especially if it'slike that, and it's not just the
bus tour to your hotel, youknow, you're gonna be with these
people for your whole week.
That could be, yeah.
It's like a very, and you couldtell there's no air
conditioning.
The windows are down.
I've done bus tours and, andlike, just traveling from one
place to the next and adifferent country.
(07:52):
It was in Asia and it was, itwas horrendous.
Like it was horrendous.
I can't even imagine just beingthe whole week on that bus.
they decide to take Charles upon his offer, and then they come
into this whole different familydynamic that they're not aware
of.
what I like about, about Audreyand Nick, Adam Sandler and
Jennifer Anderson, is they kindof are very, like, it's al it
(08:16):
almost is like, they're watchinga TV show.
They're just like, oh, Look atthat.
They're so excited.
They love that.
And they're kind of just talkingand gossiping to each other
about it.
It's such a fun experience forthem, even though they're like,
this is awkward.
And there's a lot of weirdfamily dynamics They're just
like, mm-hmm.
Oh yeah, definitely.
they're enjoying theentertainment of it.
(08:38):
I don't know.
I kind of was trying to putmyself in the position.
I was like, would I go on thatyacht?
Like I know it sounds like, oh,yeah, you definitely would.
But you don't know those peopleas well.
and that kind of sounds likejust the beginning of a murder
mystery.
True crime.
Like a literal murder mystery.
True crime story.
So then we meet the cast ofpeople on the yacht.
There's a bunch of people onthere.
(08:59):
there's the nephew, Charles'ex-fiance, who was now dating
his rich billionaire uncle, oris now married to, I'm sorry.
but that was his ex-fiance.
So there's that dynamic she's inher early twenties.
very young.
and then there's a movie starwho is a benefactor of the
billionaire or something.
Yeah.
grace Gracie Grace.
(09:20):
Yeah.
And then also the billionaireson, Toby, Tobias, whatever.
as well as the colonel who savedthe billionaire's life, and the
bodyguard for the colonel, whois this big, scary looking dude.
so there's, you know, all thesecast of characters on there.
Oh.
And the, the race car driver,Juan Carlos I think, or Carlos.
(09:43):
Mm-hmm.
Juan, I don't, I don't rememberhis name, but he supposedly
doesn't speak English.
He is responding in set forms oflike Yes.
Very fast.
Like just kind of race carterms.
Yeah.
but it's, it's so funny to mebecause Nick and Audrey don't
feel awkward being there.
it's such a random set ofpeople, but also like a family
(10:07):
and they just kind of like, goand they're like, oh yeah, hi,
we're the spits.
they're not even like, oh,should we not be here?
This is really awkward andweird.
They're just so excited.
About the adventure of it.
I think that's where both oftheir professions probably come
in play too, because, you know,she Audrey's used to talking to
strangers all the time andgetting information being a
(10:29):
hairstylist Kind of a therapist.
and Nick too probably has totalk to a lot of people being a
police officer and knowingpeople and getting information
from people.
So just by being like, Hey,yeah, we're just gonna be here.
we're not nervous and we're justgonna be part of it.
It's probably normal for themYeah.
(10:49):
it's funny because Nick ends upbeing that, Malcolm flies on
board with his helipad, on theyacht.
makes his entrance and is like,oh, we're gonna have a family
meeting about the will orwhatever.
And he, you know, is like, andwho are you to the spits?
They introduce themselves andthey're like, do you want us to
leave?
And he is like, no, it's fine.
Like, he's totally fine with himjust being there about this very
(11:12):
personal, he's like, he's, youcan hear situation, you can hear
me tearing everyone down, andthat's fine.
he is very disappointed ineveryone.
So he is, planning on signingthe will to leave everything to
his, his wife, the like 20something year old, former
fiance of his nephew.
And right before he goes to signit, the lights go out just like
(11:33):
a murder mystery.
And, he's stabbed to death, withthe, dagger that was on board.
it made me think, have you everbeen to a murder mystery before?
I have.
years ago I went to, a dinnershow type of thing.
I remember going with my mom andmy sister it was kind of fun.
just like a murder mysterydinner type.
(11:56):
you know, they acted out on, Idon't know if they acted out on
stage or around you, but it waskind of fun.
there used to be a train onethat I've always wanted to go
on, like a murder mystery dinnershow train that always seemed
fun.
Oh, yeah.
Kind of like the Orient Express,sort of like Aha Christie Yeah.
those are, I always wanted to goto one, I just went to a Golden
(12:17):
Girls themed one My sisterbrought me and it was really
cool.
it wasn't a dinner though, justkind of a show or whatever.
Okay.
And they did act all around usand they were like in the
character of The Golden Girls.
'cause I'm obsessed with theGolden Girls, if you don't know
this.
and it was really funny.
it was fun.
it wasn't a serious murdermystery one.
It was more like, just kind ofsilly.
But I loved it.
(12:38):
I thought it was great.
it was kind of typical if youwent to one of those shows where
the lights go out and then youhave to put together the clues.
But yeah, I think that, youknow, the murder mystery
element, really falls, true to amurder mystery.
and Audrey is really into it andexcited, about the mystery, not
obviously about the, the, themurder she's so into all the
(12:58):
clues and everything.
And she's right there.
I think it's funny when thefirst murder happens, Audrey is
like, oh, Nick's a detective.
he'll be able to solve it.
And then everyone's like, well,what do we do?
They pull out the knife and thenput it back in, He's like, no,
no, don't do that.
Let's not do that.
Definitely don't do that.
But it is nice the relationshiphow even through all of this,
(13:24):
they're still trying to be,she's very supportive of him and
he's trying to be, you know,like even what, there are times
throughout the movie that hewell, she's just a hairdresser,
just hair stylist.
But you kind of watch theirprogression of their
relationship and it's kind ofnice.
I do like their communicationwith each other.
(13:45):
I do too.
there's points where youdefinitely see some tension, but
I think it's very typicaltension of a marriage, I think
he's got a lot of insecurity andshame around the fact that he
can't pass this detective exam.
she is, very interested inthese, these clues and Yeah.
And she's trying to be like, ohyeah, he can figure it out.
It actually is like kind of moreher that's, that's into it and
kind of sees the clues she readsa lot of murder mystery and
(14:07):
everything, so she's kind oflike, it's in her brain as a fun
thing.
she's very, into the wholeelement of it.
even like jumping ahead, likewhen they're in the library,
she's like, this is, it's likedeath in the library.
It's like, what?
You know, like what She's likeliving out her books and, murder
mysteries.
it's kind of a fun thing forthem, but they're also scared
(14:28):
because it seems like somebodyis trying to get to them and
possibly kill them.
So they're worried about that,but they're still having fun
it's funny because there's astagnancy in their marriage that
they can see that's probablyjust very typical of like, you
know, they've been together foralmost two decades.
Right.
You know, and they're like,probably just trying to find a
little spice And so this is likean adventure for them.
and they're working together andit's a unique experience they
(14:50):
can share.
it really is just the rightmedicine, for what they need.
then it turns out they thinkit's Malcolm's, son that
murdered him, no, it's Nick thatthinks that, and then he ends up
getting murdered next.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Then he's like, whoops.
'cause it's not him.
Yeah.
It's because Audrey was kind oflike, sort of dispute.
She was like, I don't know.
That seems too obvious, youknow?
(15:10):
and then the bodyguard of thecolonel shows up and starts
talking to them and saying heknows who it is and thinks it's,
the colonel, right?
Mm-hmm.
Does he think it's the colonel?
Yeah.
Because he lost his wife andchild, in an attack or
something.
Mm-hmm.
He had to protect him.
Yeah.
so maybe he's like, just alwayswanted vengeance on him or
(15:32):
something.
'cause he lost like the love ofhis life, he and his child, and
then the bodyguard himself endsup getting shot through the
door, which was.
probably meant for the spits.
Yeah.
And so they, they're like, oh,yeah.
And I could not understand whythe spits were the target,
unless they, well, because he'sa detective and she kind of is
unravel in the clues.
(15:53):
They just didn't want them tofigure it out.
Like, why were the killers afterthem?
I think they thought they wouldget in the way.
They were that unplanned factorof like, You might solve it.
And they realized how Audrey wasgetting so into like, oh my
gosh, no, we need to figure thisout, Right.
And I think they probably werelike, okay, let's take care of
(16:13):
them.
And that's why they got thatmessage to go to that room where
they met.
the bodyguard and, you know, andthen it ends up the bodyguards
up getting shot.
And then, yeah.
And then people just end up,getting knocked down in this
whole party.
They end up landing in France.
there's a detective that getsintroduced called Di de Laqua.
Lauren de Laqua, you know, he isvery French, very old school
(16:33):
detective.
And he's, just kind of useless.
he's not really doing anything.
he's having, the couple do allthe work yet he's suspicious of
them.
And, you know, very much raggingon, Nick, that he's not a
detective even goes on TV beinglike, he is not a detective,
even though he representshimself as that.
So there's, all these peoplethat end up getting killed off
(16:56):
from the party because they'reall being questioned as to
what's going on.
some people are still assumingit's them as the Americans.
They're kind of this new factorthat's involved, and all these
murders are happening, everybodyelse has been together before.
Right.
So they think, Who are they?
I did like the way that themovie was, created.
'cause there were times I waslike, wait a minute, is the
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detective actually behind all ofthis?
Is this person?
I never once thought, the twopeople who we find out did it,
did it.
it's pretty well done, for acomedy too.
like, you're like, wait aminute, I didn't really even see
this.
And I've seen this movie acouple times and I did not
remember how it ended or whathappened Very dysfunctional
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family and friends, And a lot ofpeople might want vengeance on
Malcolm because of, all thesethings.
There's so many people hadmotives and just kind of being
like, who is the person thatwould want it the most?
And also figuring out Grace'ssecret, which, if you've seen
this movie, there's a spoileralert in this.
so you know it.
It tells not like this is such ahuge mystery, because it's not
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like, you know, it's a comedylike you said, I actually forgot
too.
I had re-watched this pastweekend I don't know if I was
starting to remember or justlike really realize it probably
'cause I was remembering who itwas, like towards the middle.
but I did forget too.
mm-hmm.
So, yeah.
But we, we start to, you know,there's all these antics going
on where the couple is, tryingto work out who's who they're
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trying to save people.
running through differentcountries in Europe at some
point.
They're in Italy.
they're trying to figure out,who wants people dead?
Meanwhile, the French inspectorthinks it's the couple.
Mm-hmm.
the spits and everything.
people just keep getting knockedoff each time.
we learned later that it was thekiller who was trying to get to
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the couple, but it's just theseother people that got in the
way.
I think what's really importantis, yeah, like you said, like
seeing how the spits has kind ofcome together in this.
They're really kind of excitedby this at first.
Nick is not super excited aboutit.
He's like, oh, I'm gonna getsome sleep And she's like, how
can you sleep?
she's so excited about it.
it's kind of like, it reigniteshis thinking about, his
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investigative skills What he iscapable of and everything.
they make a pretty good team.
he starts realizing that maybe,not everyone is able to take
tests either.
taking the detective tests likethree or four times, maybe
that's not his forte, but hedoes definitely have the skills
to be a detective and maybe alsohis wife.
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Leaning on his wife helped himwith it.
And realizing how strong theirmarriage is and how strong their
communication is with eachother.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, definitely, definitelyreconnected them.
And I think f found a new, a newspace for.
Being able to kind ofcommunicate with some of these
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things that were maybe beinghidden by both of them.
you know, her disappointment,which, I think was being shown
in different ways, wasn'thidden, he was feeling that, and
then he was feeling like he hadto hide that.
so it kind of reconnected andput that out in the open it
helped their marriage out.
It helped them out as a couple,and it bonded them in their
shared adventure and experience.
Yeah.
but they both really seem tolove and enjoy at the end.
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yeah.
Which even I, I think it wasinteresting at the end, when
she's driving the, the car andsome other stuff happens, and
then he mentioned, you know,then he is proud and he says
like, you know, well, because,you know, she's, you know, well,
she's driving the car and she'sdoing a great job.
And he's like, you're soawesome.
then at the very end when shesays this clue about the person,
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You wouldn't put a hat on if youjust got your hair done.
And everyone's like, well, howwould you even know that?
And he's like, because she's ahairstylist.
Like he's all proud of it now,instead of saying you're just a
hairstylist or you just do hair.
He's giving her, credit and thatshe would be aware of that.
Yeah.
And so they definitely are ableto appreciate each other more
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from this experience.
And they do, they do figure itout.
They figure out, that, grace isactually the daughter that never
died in childbirth and she'skind of this, illegitimate
child, who survived and cameback to claim this fortune.
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And she was working with therace car driver, is it Carlos
Juan or Juan Carlos?
I don't remember.
But the one that he can't reallyspeak English supposedly.
very fast.
So they catch grace and thenthey think it's over.
But then there's a clue at theend where, Audrey says something
in English and the race cardriver, responds And like he's
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understood when the whole movie,he has not understood at all.
he says like, ADA, like, oh,you're welcome.
Like he fully understood her andshe's like, wait a minute.
And then she like, like youspeak English?
Yeah, yeah.
He's like, of course I do.
You idiots and your Latin sucks.
And he's like, Hey.
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Yeah.
And so they, they, they figureit out, you know, they kind of
partner together.
And, Audrey, she's got a lot of,a lot of skills, but so does,
you know, so does Nick.
He and they both kind of realizetheir, their potential in that
and, you know, that they areable to, to work together and to
rediscover things about eachother And move themselves past
that stagnancy and tension.
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so it's kind of like themicroscopic and the macroscopic
stuff going on in the story,It's also really funny.
It's, got some really funnypoints.
Adam has some, some zingersometimes that he just kind of
says off the cuff that I amlike, if I hadn't heard that, I
wouldn't have caught that.
But he said he mumbles them andthey're pretty funny.
at various points throughout thefirst and the second one.
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but yeah.
And, and the second one werealized, they start, you know,
a, a private, investigator,business together.
they're struggling, but thenthey get an invite from the
Maharaja.
Oh, he's another character.
We totally forgot about him.
Yeah.
Maharaja, he's, yeah, he's, he'sjust like, they're, they're,
they're, you know, and the firstone, he was just very, he, he
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was kind of there for comicrelief.
He spoke, interestingly and wasreally funny, but he ended up
being just like a pretty, prettygood guy, you know, but he ends
up getting kidnapped in thesecond one, and it's a whole
chase and figuring out, thedifferent clues for that.
Mm-hmm.
all along the way, you know, asimilar plot, but with different
details.
(23:20):
Yeah.
I don't remember the second one.
I'll have to rewatch it.
some other time.
But yeah, the way they set himup you almost think he's gonna
be the villain throughout all ofit, he just, you're like, oh
gosh, But that's probably who hereally is.
And yeah, there's a couplepeople who I thought like, okay,
they're all, well, I guess it'skind of like the movie Clue.
Like, who is it gonna be?
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Oh yeah.
And then Adam says, oh, it wasthe Butler.
I said It was the Butler,because her last name Grace
Butler.
At the end of the first one,he's like, didn't I say that on
the plane?
The Butler always does it.
that was pretty funny.
it's a pretty good murdermystery, but it's also really
funny.
if you love Adam, if you loveJennifer Aniston, they really do
play off of each other.
Well, I didn't think there wouldbe that level of chemistry, but
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they're actually, pretty good.
I did see after these moviescame out, that people loved to
watch them to hate them.
Did you see those reviews?
No.
apparently people thought thatthese movies were not the
greatest, but they loved them.
It was kind of like a cultfollowing I guess they
appreciated something aboutthem, but they didn't think they
were that great.
And that's kind of what, Adamand, Jennifer Aniston, are
(24:26):
trying to embrace, I thinkthey're planning on making more
movies.
Okay.
maybe that's kind of like how,how like the movie Shark NATOs
and those stupid movies, likewhere it's like they're so bad
that they just keep having moreand more, but, and then
eventually the people startembracing like, okay, this is so
cheesy, or this is just so bad.
I haven't heard that about themurder mysteries, but I guess, I
(24:49):
guess I can see it though'causeit is kind of cheesy.
Like I even, we even mentionedhis cheesy mustache It's very
predictable.
We're on a cruise and someone'sgonna die.
How are we gonna solve it?
but I actually like that.
And then they leave at the veryend.
They're on the Orient Express,Which is kind of funny.
when I first saw these, I waskind of like, oh, those were
cheesy.
But when I watched it again, inthe lens of what we would talk
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about with the couple stuff andsome of these other themes and
embracing it for what it is.
It is kind of goofy and silly,but fun I like them.
I think that's what people leanon.
They're like, it's not a greatwork of cinematography, but it's
fun.
Right?
Yeah.
You know, kind of thing.
which I think is probably, Idon't think that that's all that
bad from what Adam Sandler wouldwant.
(25:30):
I don't think he was meaning forthis to be some great work of
art.
as long as people had fun heprobably knew there was a lot of
goofiness to this.
But, I do think there, were somedecent movies with some pretty
decent themes.
All the interplay between thecharacters.
Right.
You know, like who done it,finding people's motives.
Very psychological, you know,how people are trying to suspect
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other people maybe take theblame off themselves or just
come up with a suspect, whatpeople do for money.
Motives.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
Or revenge, like the race cardrivers.
'cause his father had raced andlost his legs or whatever, so he
wanted Revenge for that.
but I think these movies aredefinitely a ways away from his
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early movies.
I think that's maybe what Ididn't like at first I was kind
of comparing it to his earlymovies when the first time I
watched it and I was like, thisis weird.
And it's very much an evolutionof who he is he's gotta make
different types of movies and healso grows up and has different
ways of expressing his humor,He's trying out different
(26:35):
characters and different plots.
I could appreciate that morebecause of our Adam discussions,
this time around.
But yeah.
so do, you remember, the firsttime you watched it, were you
super surprised it was Grace andthe race car driver?
I was, and I was surprised thistime too because I didn't
remember.
'cause the race car driver justlooked so nice and so dumb and
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you just picture like, oh, he'shelping but then when you go
back and it's like, oh no, he istripping him and he was doing
this but yeah, I was surprised.
I wasn't as surprised'causeGrace kind of seemed like there
was something up with her, but Ididn't expect the race car
driver.
What about you?
Yeah, no, I think the first timearound, I don't really remember,
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but I started to suspect, therace car driver because he did
seem, I was like, that justseems really silly that he can
only say those words, it justseemed a little too overplayed.
But I was like, I don't reallyknow the motive why, but it was
a surprise.
I was like, oh, okay, so it'sthese two.
I still kind of didn't, rightbefore they said it the first
(27:41):
time, I think.
And the second time I did forgetup until the, the middle part,
and then I was kind of like, ohyeah, I think I forgot about the
race car driver, but Iremembered Grace.
it's a really, fun set of moviesand it looks like the ending of
the second one.
It looks like there would be athird one.
There's definitely a lead in forthat.
I don't know if they've saidthat, but there definitely is a
lead in for that.
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So might have to look for thatsomewhere down the road if
that's ever going to happen.
But yeah.
So, anything else you wanna addto the.
Discussion?
No, I mean, I guess if we'rethinking about psychological or
anything, I guess one thing withNick and Audrey is like, maybe
Nick could have been a littlemore honest at the beginning and
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maybe some of this wouldn't haveturned out as, you know,'cause
they wouldn't have beentargeting them as much.
The detective and his wife, theywould've just been like two
people that were invited andthey might not have had everyone
want to kill them as much.
'cause then Audrey would've beenlike, oh yeah, Nick isn't a
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detective and we'll just kind ofsit back.
But I'm sure she couldn't havehelped it.
She probably wanted to get rightin on it no matter what, because
of her fascination and obsessionwith the murder mysteries.
Yeah.
And I mean, he still is a coptoo, right?
I think when people hear cop,they're like, oh, they kind of
just blend all them together.
So, yeah.
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that's a possibility.
Definitely.
So, now to come to our question,which the only one I could
really think of is the same oneI asked you before.
if you were presented with thechance, of going to Europe and
you knew that the next weekwould be on a, a bus with the
tours, Gonzalez tours.
I think it was Okay.
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and, you know, it's, it seemsvery crowded or, going on this
nice yacht but with completestrangers where there's a
possibility you could get, youknow, thrown overboard or you
don't, you don't know who thesepeople are.
They could be traffickers, youknow what I mean?
That type of thing.
Right.
Which do you think you wouldchoose?
(29:46):
So does the bus have airconditioning or is it like, it
is in the movie with the windowsopen and it's probably
summertime I'm gonna say thatthere's probably some air
conditioning.
I think the bus would probablyhave air conditioning, let's say
that.
Yeah, I know it's in the movie,but I don't think I'd wanna be
on a bus tour for my entiretrip.
'cause I've done the bus toursbefore, like, oh, we're going to
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visit this, historic somethingand it's like an hour, You're
going there, you're going backto your hotel Not for the entire
week.
I don't think I can handle a bustour.
I'd get sick.
it would just be really, noteven just all the same people
over and over, the boat wouldseem more appealing.
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But I also would want thefreedom to get off the boat.
And I think in either instance,you can't, if you're dictated
with the boat, you know, whereyou're going.
And same with the bus.
but it's also like, you don'tknow these people on the yacht.
you meet someone in person.
Yeah, that's true.
You don't know anyone.
And at least the bus tour, youknow, it's a little bit more
(30:51):
legitimate.
if it was real life, I wouldprobably take the bus tour
because I would know okay, atleast I'm going to my hotel.
I can choose to go on the bustour every day or not.
'cause they'll pick me up at thehotel or I can just walk around
town Yeah.
I think I would choose the same,because it, although I would
love, like the yachts a hundredpercent seems more appealing,
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but like you, I mean, it justseems like the start of every
murder mystery, or traffickingcase.
I think we know too much aboutthat now people disappear and
You don't know these people.
There's all this strange, moneyinvolved and people can
disappear and not even know,like, oh, that wasn't the plan,
so where did they go?
You know, there wouldn't be anytrace of you.
Right.
I think that would be way toorisky.
Although, of course I'd ratherbe on a yacht.
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It's just the circumstances ofnot knowing the people and not
Really knowing what's going onthere, which they didn't, I
don't think I would've, I don'tthink I would choose and, and
just like you, yeah.
I think I'd probably just belike, okay, maybe we can choose
to go on the bus or not.
Maybe we could do our own thing,a bus tour does not sound
appealing to me.
I'd rather just figure somethingelse out outside of that.
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that's probably, because I'vewatched so much true crime and
we're aware of the things thatcan happen.
No, I agree.
that, did look real nice.
so, all right.
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