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In this hilarious and insightful episode of Wicked Psychotherapists, licensed therapists Tanya and Erin take on the 1998 comedy classic The Waterboy, starring Adam Sandler.
Through a mental health lens, they explore Bobby Boucher’s social isolation, explosive anger, and complex relationship with his overprotective mama. What can this cult favorite teach us about trauma, codependency, and emotional regulation?
A lot more than you'd think! Tune in for therapy insights, pop culture breakdowns, and a whole lot of laughs as they dive into themes like bullying, sublimation, abandonment issues, and personal growth.
Whether you're a fan of 90s comedies or curious about the psychology behind your favorite films, this episode is for you.
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(00:08):
You are listening to WickedPsychotherapists, a podcast
where two psychotherapists showyou that taking care of and
learning about mental healthdoesn't have to be wicked hat.
Tanya (00:31):
Hey everyone, this is Tanya.
Erin (00:32):
Hi, this is Erin and welcome to Wicked
Psychotherapists.
Tanya (00:36):
Welcome back if you are returning or welcome if you're a
first time listener, but, welove having you here either way.
Yes.
today we are continuing.
If you watched and or listenedto, last week's episode, you
know that we did an Adam SandlerClassic and we are continuing
along in our Adam Sandler.
Hyper fixation as we often dowith actors, actresses, or
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themes.
And we are gonna be talkingabout a water boy, which is a,
1998 Classic.
Yes.
My, the classic now, oh my God.
And you could always find it
Erin (01:09):
on, is it TBS that always has it, or something like you
always find it on tv.
Like, it's always like you puton the stations Water boy is
always on.
It's always there.
Tanya (01:17):
I'm not sure.
I haven't had cable in a longtime, but I'm sure it's Oh, I
have it all.
Yeah.
yeah, it's, you know, somethingthat, a lot of people loved.
There's a lot of great humor.
Showcases a lot of Adam Sandlerand his little crew there.
Their talents.
Yes.
and we're also gonna focus on,of course, some of the mental
health themes because there aresome of those present.
So, and we also, we'd be remissif we didn't, do you wanna give
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your shout out?
Erin (01:38):
Yeah, so this is my husband's favorite movie and
today when we're recording, itgets, it's his birthday.
So, happy birthday Todd.
Happy birthday, Todd.
this is, you know, your favoritemovie, so hope you enjoy it.
Tanya (01:52):
Little dedication to him falls perfectly on there.
Yeah.
So let's get into it.
So the water, boy, I have to sayI watched this again over the
weekend as I think you, you saidyou did too.
Mm-hmm.
I realized and remembered howjuvenile the humor is, and it
still, you know, still made melaugh, but I was like, oh man,
it, it really is really, youknow, juvenile and, ridiculous.
(02:17):
Adam Sandler.
Yeah.
But, did you kind of feeldifferently watching it again
from when, you know, maybewatching it before?
Erin (02:23):
Yeah.
I mean, there's some parts thatyou're just like, oh, this is a
little cringey.
But I mean, I can't even counthow many times I've seen this
stupid movie, but it's so funny.
it is very juvenile.
I mean, it is funny'causethey're all probably like in
their thirties when they'redoing this movie, like all of
Adam Sandler and his crew, butthey're just.
You know, it's just silly humor
Tanya (02:41):
acting like high schoolers basically.
And even the character BobbyBoucher is like working for, and
then plays for a team when he islike 31 and doesn't even have,
you know, he's not evengraduated from, from high
school.
He doesn't have his high schoolequivalency.
So yeah.
that kind of fits too.
homeschooled by,
Erin (02:57):
homeschooled by mama and who knows what type of
credential she had.
Tanya (03:01):
Yeah.
she thinks that happy joy comesfrom, from happiness and
rainbows or something magicalhappiness in rainbows.
Yeah.
That's her scientificinclination.
Yeah.
Um, yeah, so the, the movieitself, I think it's when it
first opens up and you see BobbyBoucher.
My first feelings towards himare just absolute like, aw, you
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know, like, He's just such aPitiful character.
He just seems to really, reallycare about water, making sure he
calls himself the hydrationengineer, you know, he takes it
very seriously.
Mm-hmm.
He's got all these differenttypes of water.
he inspects it.
Sterilization process is onpoint.
And he is just mercilesslybullied by the football team.
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very disheartening to watch.
But also you kind of can see whyhe was a target?
Because he couldn't reallydefend himself.
Now, I'm not saying that'sright.
Obviously it was not right.
But, they just kind of saw himas an easy target because he
didn't really know how to defendhimself.
He didn't really understandsocial cues or anything like
that.
Or didn't have any socialskills, really.
Erin (04:09):
I was gonna say he wasn't really exposed to too much, you
know, it sounded like it wasjust him, his, his donkey.
Yeah, Steve, the donkey.
Just not really much, you know,he didn't really have
classmates, so that's probablywhy as at a young age, he went
to vol, either work or volunteerat the first, college football
team, you know, to be the water
Tanya (04:29):
boy.
Yeah.
He really just had a, well, it,it's kind of like his origin
story was hearing this, this,which we learned is later a
false story about his dad, whohe never knew.
Who went in the Peace Corps andended up in the desert and
passed away because he didn'thave water.
And Bobby's like, oh, I would'vebeen able to provide him water.
Erin (04:49):
only, if only am I there I could have given him his water.
Tanya (04:52):
Yeah.
it's just ridiculous, but it'sFunny.
so he takes this reallyseriously and then.
the coach whatever his name is,he's like, you know, just a
jerk.
He sees his, players arefocusing way too much On
bullying and teasing.
Bobby, so he fires him.
Of course.
That's the most logical.
Erin (05:10):
wait a minute, I've had this kid has been my water boy
for over 20 years.
Let me try to.
You know, stick up for him, butinstead he is like, you are
fired and then poor Bobby.
Tanya (05:22):
Yeah.
That's just like a distractionfor them, even though he's like
so meticulous in his skills andreally gives all this, instead
of being like, trying to teachhis players like, Hey, don't be,
you know, don't be, don't berude jerks.
let's, let's just fire this,this boy.
And he's like, okay.
It just takes it so calmly.
Yeah.
So that's, that's kind of thestart of the, of the movie.
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And we see that Bobby Boucherhas a passion for, for water,
and he absolutely thinks of hismother as the end all be all,
because that's the way she'splaced herself mm-hmm.
In, in his life.
And so he's like, mama knowsall, mama, mama always says what
Mama says.
Yeah.
You know?
And, that's just like his creed,his motto for life.
Yeah.
Erin (06:01):
Yeah.
Well, she was a single motherand she probably just really.
Didn't want anything to happento him.
So she kind of really suffocatedhim too with everything.
Tanya (06:11):
Yeah.
Well, as we learn at the endthat his Bobby's biological
father, Robert, or Roberto, ashe becomes, ends up leaving and
kind of develops this new life,he goes to, I think Las Vegas or
something, and he falls in loveand just basically leaves her.
and so she sees that as, if.
Bobby tries to leave or develophis own life, he's gonna leave
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me.
It's like her own abandonment.
Mm-hmm.
Issues.
and she like basically projectsthat on his entire life and
makes him, you know, doesn'twant him to be college educated,
doesn't want him to, to reallyknow anything.
She's like, when he loses hisjob, she's like, that's great,
you can spend time here with meat home.
she doesn't really care that.
he's just lost something that hereally loves, that's his
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personality and, who he is.
a lot of mothers son codependentissues and projecting Past
trauma passing it on to her sonMama Boucher.
Erin (07:06):
he also has past trauma because of, even if it's not a
real story, he doesn't know atthe time.
his dad dying of thirst in thedesert.
so that's always part of him.
why he does what he does too.
Tanya (07:18):
Yeah.
It's like his trauma narrative.
even when he goes to see, thecoach, Coach Klein, and he sees
the bucket that's all dirty andgrungy, he's like, I will do it
for free.
just do not serve that ever toany human history promise.
Like it's beyond his, like, likehe can't, he can't handle that.
That's not something he couldever conceive of.
Clean, fresh water is such apart of his belief system for
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everybody because of that storyof his dad And he's like, I'll
work for free.
You don't have to pay me.
Which is just, insane.
Mm-hmm.
And then he, he goes and heworks for the mud dogs.
And the mud dogs.
What do they do?
They see, this guy that's.
A little bit eccentric, a littlebit, you know, has different
ways, and they're like, let'spick on him.
Let's show him.
Let's welcome him and knock overall his, yeah.
(08:03):
His water stand that he justcarefully set up and was trying
to titrate the water andsterilize it.
Erin (08:08):
Yeah.
Spit in it and, which is sogross.
So you're spitting in the wateryou're gonna drink.
Tanya (08:13):
Yeah, I was thinking that too.
I'm like, what?
Like really?
These are os they really don'tunderstand.
Yeah.
That like, okay.
Yeah.
You should have served it tothem then.
Erin (08:21):
Yeah.
And then that made him startthinking of what happened to him
when he was just a little boy.
Same thing.
Mm-hmm.
I think that's what sparked theanger in Bobby.
Tanya (08:30):
same guy?
Erin (08:31):
No.
No, I don't think it maybe, Idon't know.
Tanya (08:34):
a father or something because he looked like he had
the same crossed eyes in thememory.
Or maybe I'm remembering thatwrong.
I dunno.
Maybe I, he's just, he wasremembering it.
Erin (08:41):
Yeah, I don't think so.
Or maybe they had the same actorjust play somebody different.
Tanya (08:46):
Yeah.
They were like, whatever you'lldo.
Erin (08:48):
Yeah.
Tanya (08:48):
You got that crazy voice.
Erin (08:50):
Yeah.
Tanya (08:51):
But yeah, and I think that also becomes, that's where
Bobby first recognizes, well,actually, coach Klein recognizes
that Bobby gets so upset that heends up sacking this dude who
spit in the, the cooler and he'soh my God, this guy's got skill.
And so he can, take some of thisanger, this frustration of being
bullied and put down his wholelife.
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And put it towards being a goodfootball player, a good
defenseman, And being able totackle people.
and that really appeals to CoachKlein because the mud dogs suck.
They're like always in the lastplace.
And drunk.
The cheerleaders are, are justdrinking, drinking out of like
a, a bourbon whiskey bottle.
And they're passed out laughing.
Erin (09:31):
Yeah.
We'll just get drunk in thestands.
Tanya (09:33):
Which is just kind of hilarious.
It's like even the cheer squadhas given up.
They're, they're depressed andthey're drinking.
Bobby realizes, oh, okay.
I can, I can kind of use, whichis kind of like a therapy skill,
right.
You know, sublimating using somecoping skills to say, Hey,
rather than.
Being stuck with some of thisanger and acting out and maybe
just, you know, tackling myprofessor, like he does that was
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probably not a good use of thecoping skills.
I'm gonna use it in a game wherethat's really advantageous to
my, yeah.
To the team and to my skills.
Yeah.
which is something I think wetalk about with our clients.
Right.
You know, being able To say,Hey, if you have this
difficulty, and this is kind ofdifficult, maybe you can
transfer some of that overthere.
Erin (10:13):
and it's not always healthy to keep it in.
Like where Bobby probably alwayswas like, all right, yes, okay.
You know, just not reallyencouraged to express anger or
show anything to bullies, so.
Letting it out.
Yeah.
It's probably not thehealthiest, but it is way
healthier than just keeping itin.
Tanya (10:32):
Because then, he just kind of takes it on himself.
It affects his own self-esteem.
And then he explodes at thewrong moment.
Like when the professor tellshim your mama is wrong and he
can't visual what, what,
Erin (10:44):
what he tackles.
He tackles Colonel Sanders.
Yeah.
It's like, oh yeah, everybody'sbullying me.
Tanya (10:50):
Yeah.
He recognizes that, that set upof like, oh no, now I'm back in
the same.
Erin (10:56):
Mm-hmm.
Tanya (10:57):
what do you think of the Vicki Valour or Valor?
what do you think of hercharacter kind of coming in and.
I know when he first brings herup, I guess he's known her from
as when he was a kid, and themom's like, stay away from
little girls.
They're the devil.
And yeah, Vicky's the devil.
Everyone's the devil.
Erin (11:12):
devil, yeah.
Oh, I mean, like Vickiobviously, probably has some
stuff going on in her life.
'cause it sounds like just gotoutta jail when she sees him
again and, stealing the, sportscar, whatever she does.
But she.
Seems like her best interest isalways for Bobby, so she sees
Bobby as the sweet boy, sweetman, and it's probably someone
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who's totally different thanpeople she's been exposed to.
And so there's some reason she'sdrawn to Bobby and I feel like
her intentions are.
True.
Like to protect Bobby?
Tanya (11:45):
Yeah, I think so too.
I think she maybe has kind ofoverly aggressive tactics, but
she means, well for him, likeshe really is very, very
protective.
Like with the scene where he'staking the high school
equivalency test and she has thesign saying, do you want me to
kill them?
Like, he's like,
Erin (11:59):
no, no, no, I'm fine.
Tanya (12:00):
test.
That wouldn't be good.
No.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
And so I think that she doesseem to be fiercely loyal to
him, like she does see somethingin him.
But, when she comes over forthat barbecue Mama Boucher,
Helen, whatever, Kathy Bates,whatever, she, she's always
Kathy Bates to me, but she justdoes not approve of this girl.
Right.
'cause it's, she sees it as aperson who's gonna take her boy
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away.
Right.
Right.
then she starts embarrassinghim, which I thought was so
manipulative and emotionallyabusive to be like, oh, did you
see his sheets?
Like, do you know what he does?
Like, do you know he wears thesetypes of like embarrassing
pajamas, like cartoon pajamas?
No, just, that's a sheet.
And showing his like key rooted,you know, sheet, which is just
disgusting.
And then Vicky, the whole
Erin (12:41):
she's just like, you know, she's probably disgusted the
whole time, but she's like, oh,that's fine.
I love superheroes.
I love this.
And, you know, she's just, she'slike, okay.
The people though, she was like,all right.
I am not gonna say I love thathe pees the bed.
Tanya (12:55):
Yeah, that's a little, a little too far.
But she was like, I, I'm stillwith him.
I'm still here.
Yeah.
but yeah, that's, and then the,the scene where they're, they're
eating and she's barbecuing.
The, the little, alligators,alligators.
And they're, they're just likemini.
I was just like, oh, that is sodisgusting.
I was kind of curious.
I wonder what that was made of,because then, then the, the
actress, or Vicki takes a, abite of Yeah.
(13:17):
The head off of one.
Yeah, I'm sure it was probablyjust, I wonder if it was like,
like gummy bear-ish type stuffmaybe,
Erin (13:22):
or maybe some candy or something or something.
I was kind of curious about
Tanya (13:26):
Yeah, because I think I wanted gummy bears at that time
and I was like, I wonder ifthat's a gum bear, gum bear
flavor.
I was in the mood gummy bears.
yeah, I think she's fiercelyloyal and she does see something
very different than, you know,she's kind of rough around the
edges, so she's probably, met alot of characters who they
didn't mean well and she seesthat he does, he does mean well.
(13:48):
He is like a good person.
He maybe doesn't understandthings and can't really stick up
for himself.
Mm-hmm.
He really is truly a goodnatured person.
Yeah.
So I think that's, you know,kind of.
Match there.
And he just, he likes herbecause she's, she's nice to him
and she's, you know, just kindof, kind of different, kind of
has some wild ideas.
she, I also like that she's, shecan fix things up.
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She's very mechanicallyinclined.
Yeah.
Erin (14:13):
and she's, it's interesting too'cause she's a
really strong woman andindependent and, you know, so.
It's interesting that he's drawnto that where his mom is too.
His mama is very independent.
She had to be independent sinceRoberto left them.
Tanya (14:28):
like there's similar characteristics, but they're
different because I think hesenses, and this is going way
too deep for the water boy, butthis is what we do.
you know, that I think issomeone who wants.
him to be able to do what hewants to do, whereas his mother,
mama Boucher is very smothering.
And wants, control over him.
Erin (14:46):
Vicki sees like he's having fun on the mud dogs.
He likes playing football.
He's able to be honest with herand tell her that he's doing it
where he tells his mama thathe's gotten attacked by a
gorilla or whatever,
Tanya (15:00):
Oh my gosh.
She puts up the wanted sign of,of wanted, and just a drawing of
a gorilla and then like, likedollar sign, like what is she
gonna do when she gets'em?
Yeah.
Like, like, you know, yell athim or kick him or what?
I don't know.
What are you gonna do?
And I don't think anybody wouldbe like, oh, if I saw Gorilla,
yeah.
I'm gonna go and I'm gonna go
Erin (15:18):
get it for you.
Tanya (15:19):
But I don't know.
Who knows?
once again, this is the WaterBoy world, and we're just going
way too deep with it.
it is hilarious.
we do see Adam Sandler's crew inthere, right?
You got the Rob Schneider and,the same guy that was in the
same,
Erin (15:33):
lemme pull it up quick.
Yeah, the same, Pete, Peter,Dante, he was in Mr.
Deeds.
And Rob Snyder as a usual.
Henry Winkler I think is in acouple of, I feel like we see
Henry Winkler in some othermovies that they do together.
Tanya (15:47):
I think so too.
That sounds right.
Who's like the fawns?
I mean, like, that's just nuts.
Erin (15:51):
and Henry Winkler is really great in this movie too.
Tanya (15:55):
Mm-hmm.
Erin (15:56):
Yeah.
Tanya (15:56):
And he
Erin (15:56):
has a lot of psychological stuff going on too with his
bully Coach Red.
Tanya (16:01):
He kind of has a history with him that we find out where
basically Red stole his playsthat, you know, coach Klein had
made up back in their early dayswhen they were both up for the
head coach job.
Red just aggressively took itfrom him and was like, you know,
are we gonna have to use force?
And took it.
Got the job.
Erin (16:20):
What I really like about that scene is they didn't even
try to make them look younger.
Mm-hmm.
I thought that too.
Oh my gosh.
Tanya (16:27):
That's so true.
And the wigs were so horrible,like.
He's got this like poofed outhair that just looks so, so much
like a wig, you know?
And it's not even like the samecolor.
Like it's just ridiculous.
So funny.
And yeah, they've got likewrinkles and stuff and they're
like, yeah, we're like young,young coaches.
They're in, we're in college.
Which I think is like, that'spart of, I love that in Adam
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Sandler's movies, they don't trybecause they just want you to
laugh at that.
Just so ridiculous in and ofitself, which just makes it even
funnier.
Yeah.
So that really is, yeah, he doeshave an issue.
He kind of never really stoodup.
Against, red, you know, so he,whenever he sees him, when he is
playing against him, when hesenses like, oh, he is using
those bullying tactics, he kindof withdraws.
And has that same kind offeeling of like, I can't win
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this and get put back into thatplace.
Erin (17:15):
Just like when the whole football team comes on their
bus, when the mud dogs arecelebrating their win and he
coach Red calls out BobbyBoucher for not having a,
diploma or whatever, and sayingthat he lied Coach Klein doesn't
stick up for him.
And then when Bobby finds outthe truth, it's, you know, he
is, he's really upset, you know,like, why couldn't you stick up
(17:36):
for me?
But it's going back to CoachKlein was back to that young
adult feeling the, you know,like, here's my bully and I
can't stick up for him.
I'm, you know, so instead oftraumatized standing up for
someone who I want to, I can't.
Tanya (17:52):
Yeah, trauma.
Trauma affects you in, in a lotof ways.
And he, instead he said, I, Iran in here and I cried under my
desk like a 10-year-old littlegirl, you know?
And yeah, I cried and cried andcried.
Yeah.
He says, yeah, it's, um, yeah.
And then, and then what's kindof ironic is it shows Bobby's
personality and his character.
he helps out, coach Klein andhelps him to kind of deal with
(18:12):
his bully by, you know,visualizing.
him as a little baby and beinglike, oh, he can't really do any
harm, or as like a cute littlepuppy
Erin (18:20):
You
Tanya (18:20):
know, then it, helps him to kind of push through that.
So, again, Bobby's kind of doingsome therapy with other people.
Yeah.
You know, he's kind of pushingsome visualization exercises.
Erin (18:30):
Well, he sees when he sees too that Coach Klein helped him
with those visualization.
Yeah.
Then Bobby's like, wait aminute, this worked for me.
Let's make Coach Klein see alittle baby or little what, you
know, whatever little puppy orsomething so he can start doing
his plays and he's not asintimidating.
Tanya (18:45):
I cracked up at the image of the baby, and especially the
dog.
When the dog came on, I laughedso hard because it was just so
outta place and it was likethese ears and it was just.
This little cocker spaniel, andhe was like, oh.
And I was thinking like, oh, itdoes look cute.
And then I was like, oh my gosh,this so funny.
It was just so bizarre.
And he was just looking, he keptlooking at him smiling and red's
(19:06):
like, why are you smiling at me?
So there's, a lot of themes inhere with bullying, mother, son
relationships, how trauma canaffect you.
How being in a codependentrelationship with your mother
and your mother Keeping you inthat can affect you.
but also with Bobby Boucherkind, overcoming that and being
able to show that he does havethis capacity to be this person.
(19:28):
He was kind of being held backand he wasn't really given the
opportunity and the chances forthis.
and even learning in school, hegets really upset at Colonel
Sanders and tackles him when hesays Mama was wrong.
But then it seems like he'sreally kind of taking on those
courses and is learningsomething.
Yeah.
From it, you know, because laterhe is like, alligators are angry
because of an elongated Abdullahoblong, you know?
(19:51):
or Yeah.
Medulla Oblongata.
Oh my gosh.
Erin (19:54):
I, you know what I mean?
That part, no one's gonna callyou out on it instead of just
being honoree or whatever,
Tanya (20:00):
Mama says it's'cause they got all those teeth and they
can't brush their teeth And kindof funny.
But, yeah.
it really is like, he's kind oflike noticing, oh wow, I've been
kept in this, in this world, butI still love my mama.
You know, at the end he's still,you know, still respects his mom
(20:21):
and still understands that shewent through a hard situation.
That's why she was trying tokeep Her son close to her.
Erin (20:26):
speaking of being close too, like then, you know, when
she finds out the truth that hewas playing football, that's
when she fakes us.
You know, like this illness orwhatever's Oh, yeah.
In like a fake coma.
It's just, you know, very,again, trying to control Bobby
so that he has to quit football,but also stay with her.
Tanya (20:48):
Yeah.
I'm like, oh, you're gonna make,you're gonna destroy me if you
do these things.
And then when she hears all thepeople outside his window being
like, oh, water boy, water boy.
She's like, oh, maybe I havebeen beating him too Selfishly.
People love him.
It's really funny though, in thehospital room where like Steve,
the donkey is allowed and thenlike her whole bed set up is
allowed.
Yeah.
And like just her canopy bed andall her crap is in there.
(21:10):
And it's like basically I, atfirst I was like, oh, they, they
got back home.
Like, that's weird.
And then I was like, oh, they'restill at the hospital.
She just made it her own.
Yeah.
I was accepted, but that's theworld of Adam Sandler is, you
know, just this ridiculousnessand this silliness.
Yeah.
Which is just always fun tovisit.
We are looking at, you know, ofcourse some of the therapy,
skills and themes in this, butobviously this is just overall a
(21:33):
really funny movie that, still,it still holds up.
Erin (21:37):
Again, if you have cable, you'll see it on like weekly.
It's on something.
I don't know, it's just AdamSandler, like I said in Mr.
Deed's episode.
It took me a while to get onthat Adam Sandler thing'cause I
was like, oh my God, he is soimmature, but he's so funny.
And now that I understand AdamSandler, I just, there pretty
much almost all his movies Ilove.
Tanya (21:56):
He's always, you know, there was just a phase where he
was completely.
Absolutely ridiculous.
He may be matured a little bit,but, you know, in different, not
really.
He's still, he still shows hisimmaturity in a lot of different
ways, but it's just hilariousand his perspective.
yeah, and I do think that he isreally skillful and being able
(22:18):
to take on these weird, goofycharacters.
Mm-hmm.
and just humiliate himself andmake really silly, funny movies.
Yeah.
don't know if he's working onanything right now.
Is he still, well, there is,
Erin (22:31):
we did talk about this, like there is gonna be a Happy
Gilmore two.
Right.
Yeah.
So Tanya and I are going to bedoing Happy Gilmore one and two
in the near future.
And also if you guys have anyother Adam Sandler movies that
you can think of that you know,'cause we do get the fan mail
and we do read it.
(22:51):
And if there's anyone that'slike, Hey, what about this?
You know, we'll do it.
Tanya (22:56):
For sure, for sure.
We would love that because he'shilarious and we can always find
some mental health themes inthere.
Of course, you may not wannalook at it from that
perspective.
That's just kind of what we do.
But we just really enjoy thesemovies.
They're funny.
And it's a good break from allthis stuff going on.
Yes,
Erin (23:12):
Yeah.
Kind of watch the
Tanya (23:13):
water Boy.
Yeah, some, some fun stuff.
It was nice to just.
Last night, Sunday night, youknow, I was just kind of like,
Hey, this is, this is a nicedecompressor after watching
various other shows that I wastelling you about, but I don't
watch.
Yeah.
Tanya watch watches a
Erin (23:27):
lot of dark stuff, which I, I have too.
I've been, we've been watchingsome dark show, like Dark Siri,
but I like comedy.
Tanya (23:35):
Yeah.
It's good to you.
Definitely.
Especially with, with thenightmares I get from the true
crime stuff.
Yes.
Erin (23:40):
Maybe you shouldn't, yeah.
Maybe you should make sure youdon't watch that late at night
or
Tanya (23:44):
I tell myself that and then I end up just doing it.
And I'm like, I won't, and thenI do it.
Erin (23:48):
just two more.
Tanya (23:49):
yeah, yeah.
I get, I get kind of hooked onit, but that's just me and my
own issues.
Mm-hmm.
Anything else that we wanna addto the Water Boy, which is
Erin (23:58):
I think we covered most of the topics that we had said we
wanted to, it's obviouslyspoilers but again, this was
released in 1998, And it's agood movie.
it's not politically correct, ofcourse, but it's funny and it's.
A good movie.
It's Adam Sandler.
Tanya (24:16):
Yeah, there's definitely gonna be the 1998.
And I'm not, you know, of coursewe don't, we don't excuse this,
but there, there is, there aresome, you know, terms that are
used, some things that areprobably some people, you know,
maybe that grew up in adifferent generation that are,
that are younger.
Probably would, would be like,wow, that's really, that's
(24:37):
really hurtful.
Know awful.
The way, you know, he wasbullied, the names he was called
and the things that wereallowed.
Erin (24:42):
Hopefully people don't call people anything like that
now, and it, no, it's not Right.
it was a different time.
Tanya (24:49):
it was something where I think that was kind of thrown
around a lot.
should we get onto our, I'm notgonna say this is a fun
question.
Oh, but it's an interesting one.
Okay.
Well, it's kind of a gross one.
Oh, so it's cuisine based.
Okay.
Oh, gross.
Okay.
So if you had to choose betweeneating the snake and the movie
or the alligators, which wouldyou choose?
Erin (25:09):
Well.
The snake.
At least she sliced it.
You know, she gave Coach Kleinthe knee kneecap or whatever she
said, and the alligators.
I don't know how else you eatthe alligators, except how Vicki
did just go right in it and justeat the head.
I don't know.
They're just, they're both sounappetizing looking.
I guess if I was forced, I wouldchoose the snake.
(25:31):
What about you?
Tanya (25:32):
Go the other direction.
I would choose the alligatorsbecause I know that there is
alligator meat that, you know,people have told me.
I think one of my sisters saidshe tried it and it tastes like
chicken.
she had it when she was visitingFlorida a while back.
and I just picture that that maybe more palatable.
But I don't think I would eat itthe way Vicki did.
(25:53):
But I think I would probably gofor that because the thought of
eating a snake is like theinnards, just
Erin (25:59):
like the texture just makes it sick.
Yeah, both of it.
Both of it just seems so gross.
I would just ask, Helen mama ifI could not eat, but
Tanya (26:06):
she would be very insulted though.
'cause that's her specialtycuisine, it seems.
Erin (26:10):
you fresh catch whatever I catch.
Tanya (26:12):
Yeah.
That's her, that's her thing.
That's her specialty.
Oh my God.
I'm still like picturing thatsnake on the table just makes me
absolutely.
Well then they're gonna have
Erin (26:21):
squirrel for dessert, so that's also yummy.
Tanya (26:24):
Yeah, that was cotton, like that, that light thing.
And she was like, yeah,squirrel.
Squirrel.
yeah.
So, I mean, to each their own,maybe some people do.
Eat that, you know, whatever.
I just personally, it doesn'tappeal to me.
Erin (26:36):
I mean, no,
Tanya (26:37):
I'm sure most people, I also think if people were to eat
that, it would be served verydifferently.
Erin (26:41):
Yeah.
I don't think you would have thefull snake wrapped up with an
apple and some mouth or howeverit was.
Tanya (26:46):
Yeah.
And the alligator probably wouldbe like in pieces, not like in a
hole, like not the baby.
Erin (26:52):
Yeah.
And you wouldn't see the babies.
You'd be like, oh, babies.
Tanya (26:55):
we wonder what, you know, if, if you have an answer to
that and some explanation, butThat's our thoughts on not only
cuisine that is.
It's not appealing to us, butalso, a movie, let us know.
Erin (27:05):
And I have seen people eat snake on like naked and afraid
and stuff like that when theyhave to, you know, but, and I
think Survivor, but I don'tknow.
Tanya (27:13):
I think I was, I was judging it based on the way it
was served.
Oh yeah.
In the movie.
Oh yeah.
Definitely.
Disgusting.
Like that's what I would do.
Yeah.
so gross.
But if it were served updifferently, maybe, maybe my
opinion would, would change, youknow?
But just in the movie, I'dprobably go for that alligator.
Erin (27:26):
I'd have to do the snake.
Yeah.
Tanya (27:28):
yeah, if you have any thoughts or anything that we
missed out on or anything youjust wanna add, if you love the
water board, if you hate it, ifyou don't really care, if you
just wanna watch it and see ifyou're of the younger
generation.
Yeah.
First time.
Or maybe third time, butwatching it at different times,
let us know.
'cause my opinion was definitelyvery different.
you know, I used to just kind ofcapitalize this when I was
(27:49):
younger, but now it's kindalike, this is stupid, but it was
like a stupid laugh, you know,like mm-hmm.
It's, it's, but it's stillfunny.
It's still very enjoyable.
so yeah.
So make sure to, follow us on.
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Erin (28:09):
And don't forget, stay wicked and keep your mind well.
All right, everybody.
Have a great week.
Bye-bye.
Tanya (28:15):
Bye.
You are listening to WickedPsychotherapists, a podcast
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Tanya (00:31):
Hey everyone, this is Tanya.
Erin (00:32):
Hi, this is Erin and welcome to Wicked
Psychotherapists.
Tanya (00:36):
Welcome back if you are returning or welcome if you're a
first time listener, but, welove having you here either way.
Yes.
today we are continuing.
If you watched and or listenedto, last week's episode, you
know that we did an Adam SandlerClassic and we are continuing
along in our Adam Sandler.
Hyper fixation as we often dowith actors, actresses, or
(00:59):
themes.
And we are gonna be talkingabout a water boy, which is a,
1998 Classic.
Yes.
My, the classic now, oh my God.
And you could always find it
Erin (01:09):
on, is it TBS that always has it, or something like you
always find it on tv.
Like, it's always like you puton the stations Water boy is
always on.
It's always there.
Tanya (01:17):
I'm not sure.
I haven't had cable in a longtime, but I'm sure it's Oh, I
have it all.
Yeah.
yeah, it's, you know, somethingthat, a lot of people loved.
There's a lot of great humor.
Showcases a lot of Adam Sandlerand his little crew there.
Their talents.
Yes.
and we're also gonna focus on,of course, some of the mental
health themes because there aresome of those present.
So, and we also, we'd be remissif we didn't, do you wanna give
(01:38):
your shout out?
Erin (01:38):
Yeah, so this is my husband's favorite movie and
today when we're recording, itgets, it's his birthday.
So, happy birthday Todd.
Happy birthday, Todd.
this is, you know, your favoritemovie, so hope you enjoy it.
Tanya (01:52):
Little dedication to him falls perfectly on there.
Yeah.
So let's get into it.
So the water, boy, I have to sayI watched this again over the
weekend as I think you, you saidyou did too.
Mm-hmm.
I realized and remembered howjuvenile the humor is, and it
still, you know, still made melaugh, but I was like, oh man,
it, it really is really, youknow, juvenile and, ridiculous.
(02:17):
Adam Sandler.
Yeah.
But, did you kind of feeldifferently watching it again
from when, you know, maybewatching it before?
Erin (02:23):
Yeah.
I mean, there's some parts thatyou're just like, oh, this is a
little cringey.
But I mean, I can't even counthow many times I've seen this
stupid movie, but it's so funny.
it is very juvenile.
I mean, it is funny'causethey're all probably like in
their thirties when they'redoing this movie, like all of
Adam Sandler and his crew, butthey're just.
You know, it's just silly humor
Tanya (02:41):
acting like high schoolers basically.
And even the character BobbyBoucher is like working for, and
then plays for a team when he islike 31 and doesn't even have,
you know, he's not evengraduated from, from high
school.
He doesn't have his high schoolequivalency.
So yeah.
that kind of fits too.
homeschooled by,
Erin (02:57):
homeschooled by mama and who knows what type of
credential she had.
Tanya (03:01):
Yeah.
she thinks that happy joy comesfrom, from happiness and
rainbows or something magicalhappiness in rainbows.
Yeah.
That's her scientificinclination.
Yeah.
Um, yeah, so the, the movieitself, I think it's when it
first opens up and you see BobbyBoucher.
My first feelings towards himare just absolute like, aw, you
(03:25):
know, like, He's just such aPitiful character.
He just seems to really, reallycare about water, making sure he
calls himself the hydrationengineer, you know, he takes it
very seriously.
Mm-hmm.
He's got all these differenttypes of water.
he inspects it.
Sterilization process is onpoint.
And he is just mercilesslybullied by the football team.
(03:49):
very disheartening to watch.
But also you kind of can see whyhe was a target?
Because he couldn't reallydefend himself.
Now, I'm not saying that'sright.
Obviously it was not right.
But, they just kind of saw himas an easy target because he
didn't really know how to defendhimself.
He didn't really understandsocial cues or anything like
that.
Or didn't have any socialskills, really.
Erin (04:09):
I was gonna say he wasn't really exposed to too much, you
know, it sounded like it wasjust him, his, his donkey.
Yeah, Steve, the donkey.
Just not really much, you know,he didn't really have
classmates, so that's probablywhy as at a young age, he went
to vol, either work or volunteerat the first, college football
team, you know, to be the water
Tanya (04:29):
boy.
Yeah.
He really just had a, well, it,it's kind of like his origin
story was hearing this, this,which we learned is later a
false story about his dad, whohe never knew.
Who went in the Peace Corps andended up in the desert and
passed away because he didn'thave water.
And Bobby's like, oh, I would'vebeen able to provide him water.
Erin (04:49):
only, if only am I there I could have given him his water.
Tanya (04:52):
Yeah.
it's just ridiculous, but it'sFunny.
so he takes this reallyseriously and then.
the coach whatever his name is,he's like, you know, just a
jerk.
He sees his, players arefocusing way too much On
bullying and teasing.
Bobby, so he fires him.
Of course.
That's the most logical.
Erin (05:10):
wait a minute, I've had this kid has been my water boy
for over 20 years.
Let me try to.
You know, stick up for him, butinstead he is like, you are
fired and then poor Bobby.
Tanya (05:22):
Yeah.
That's just like a distractionfor them, even though he's like
so meticulous in his skills andreally gives all this, instead
of being like, trying to teachhis players like, Hey, don't be,
you know, don't be, don't berude jerks.
let's, let's just fire this,this boy.
And he's like, okay.
It just takes it so calmly.
Yeah.
So that's, that's kind of thestart of the, of the movie.
(05:43):
And we see that Bobby Boucherhas a passion for, for water,
and he absolutely thinks of hismother as the end all be all,
because that's the way she'splaced herself mm-hmm.
In, in his life.
And so he's like, mama knowsall, mama, mama always says what
Mama says.
Yeah.
You know?
And, that's just like his creed,his motto for life.
Yeah.
Erin (06:01):
Yeah.
Well, she was a single motherand she probably just really.
Didn't want anything to happento him.
So she kind of really suffocatedhim too with everything.
Tanya (06:11):
Yeah.
Well, as we learn at the endthat his Bobby's biological
father, Robert, or Roberto, ashe becomes, ends up leaving and
kind of develops this new life,he goes to, I think Las Vegas or
something, and he falls in loveand just basically leaves her.
and so she sees that as, if.
Bobby tries to leave or develophis own life, he's gonna leave
(06:32):
me.
It's like her own abandonment.
Mm-hmm.
Issues.
and she like basically projectsthat on his entire life and
makes him, you know, doesn'twant him to be college educated,
doesn't want him to, to reallyknow anything.
She's like, when he loses hisjob, she's like, that's great,
you can spend time here with meat home.
she doesn't really care that.
he's just lost something that hereally loves, that's his
(06:56):
personality and, who he is.
a lot of mothers son codependentissues and projecting Past
trauma passing it on to her sonMama Boucher.
Erin (07:06):
he also has past trauma because of, even if it's not a
real story, he doesn't know atthe time.
his dad dying of thirst in thedesert.
so that's always part of him.
why he does what he does too.
Tanya (07:18):
Yeah.
It's like his trauma narrative.
even when he goes to see, thecoach, Coach Klein, and he sees
the bucket that's all dirty andgrungy, he's like, I will do it
for free.
just do not serve that ever toany human history promise.
Like it's beyond his, like, likehe can't, he can't handle that.
That's not something he couldever conceive of.
Clean, fresh water is such apart of his belief system for
(07:41):
everybody because of that storyof his dad And he's like, I'll
work for free.
You don't have to pay me.
Which is just, insane.
Mm-hmm.
And then he, he goes and heworks for the mud dogs.
And the mud dogs.
What do they do?
They see, this guy that's.
A little bit eccentric, a littlebit, you know, has different
ways, and they're like, let'spick on him.
Let's show him.
Let's welcome him and knock overall his, yeah.
(08:03):
His water stand that he justcarefully set up and was trying
to titrate the water andsterilize it.
Erin (08:08):
Yeah.
Spit in it and, which is sogross.
So you're spitting in the wateryou're gonna drink.
Tanya (08:13):
Yeah, I was thinking that too.
I'm like, what?
Like really?
These are os they really don'tunderstand.
Yeah.
That like, okay.
Yeah.
You should have served it tothem then.
Erin (08:21):
Yeah.
And then that made him startthinking of what happened to him
when he was just a little boy.
Same thing.
Mm-hmm.
I think that's what sparked theanger in Bobby.
Tanya (08:30):
same guy?
Erin (08:31):
No.
No, I don't think it maybe, Idon't know.
Tanya (08:34):
a father or something because he looked like he had
the same crossed eyes in thememory.
Or maybe I'm remembering thatwrong.
I dunno.
Maybe I, he's just, he wasremembering it.
Erin (08:41):
Yeah, I don't think so.
Or maybe they had the same actorjust play somebody different.
Tanya (08:46):
Yeah.
They were like, whatever you'lldo.
Erin (08:48):
Yeah.
Tanya (08:48):
You got that crazy voice.
Erin (08:50):
Yeah.
Tanya (08:51):
But yeah, and I think that also becomes, that's where
Bobby first recognizes, well,actually, coach Klein recognizes
that Bobby gets so upset that heends up sacking this dude who
spit in the, the cooler and he'soh my God, this guy's got skill.
And so he can, take some of thisanger, this frustration of being
bullied and put down his wholelife.
(09:12):
And put it towards being a goodfootball player, a good
defenseman, And being able totackle people.
and that really appeals to CoachKlein because the mud dogs suck.
They're like always in the lastplace.
And drunk.
The cheerleaders are, are justdrinking, drinking out of like
a, a bourbon whiskey bottle.
And they're passed out laughing.
Erin (09:31):
Yeah.
We'll just get drunk in thestands.
Tanya (09:33):
Which is just kind of hilarious.
It's like even the cheer squadhas given up.
They're, they're depressed andthey're drinking.
Bobby realizes, oh, okay.
I can, I can kind of use, whichis kind of like a therapy skill,
right.
You know, sublimating using somecoping skills to say, Hey,
rather than.
Being stuck with some of thisanger and acting out and maybe
just, you know, tackling myprofessor, like he does that was
(09:55):
probably not a good use of thecoping skills.
I'm gonna use it in a game wherethat's really advantageous to
my, yeah.
To the team and to my skills.
Yeah.
which is something I think wetalk about with our clients.
Right.
You know, being able To say,Hey, if you have this
difficulty, and this is kind ofdifficult, maybe you can
transfer some of that overthere.
Erin (10:13):
and it's not always healthy to keep it in.
Like where Bobby probably alwayswas like, all right, yes, okay.
You know, just not reallyencouraged to express anger or
show anything to bullies, so.
Letting it out.
Yeah.
It's probably not thehealthiest, but it is way
healthier than just keeping itin.
Tanya (10:32):
Because then, he just kind of takes it on himself.
It affects his own self-esteem.
And then he explodes at thewrong moment.
Like when the professor tellshim your mama is wrong and he
can't visual what, what,
Erin (10:44):
what he tackles.
He tackles Colonel Sanders.
Yeah.
It's like, oh yeah, everybody'sbullying me.
Tanya (10:50):
Yeah.
He recognizes that, that set upof like, oh no, now I'm back in
the same.
Erin (10:56):
Mm-hmm.
Tanya (10:57):
what do you think of the Vicki Valour or Valor?
what do you think of hercharacter kind of coming in and.
I know when he first brings herup, I guess he's known her from
as when he was a kid, and themom's like, stay away from
little girls.
They're the devil.
And yeah, Vicky's the devil.
Everyone's the devil.
Erin (11:12):
devil, yeah.
Oh, I mean, like Vickiobviously, probably has some
stuff going on in her life.
'cause it sounds like just gotoutta jail when she sees him
again and, stealing the, sportscar, whatever she does.
But she.
Seems like her best interest isalways for Bobby, so she sees
Bobby as the sweet boy, sweetman, and it's probably someone
(11:35):
who's totally different thanpeople she's been exposed to.
And so there's some reason she'sdrawn to Bobby and I feel like
her intentions are.
True.
Like to protect Bobby?
Tanya (11:45):
Yeah, I think so too.
I think she maybe has kind ofoverly aggressive tactics, but
she means, well for him, likeshe really is very, very
protective.
Like with the scene where he'staking the high school
equivalency test and she has thesign saying, do you want me to
kill them?
Like, he's like,
Erin (11:59):
no, no, no, I'm fine.
Tanya (12:00):
test.
That wouldn't be good.
No.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
And so I think that she doesseem to be fiercely loyal to
him, like she does see somethingin him.
But, when she comes over forthat barbecue Mama Boucher,
Helen, whatever, Kathy Bates,whatever, she, she's always
Kathy Bates to me, but she justdoes not approve of this girl.
Right.
'cause it's, she sees it as aperson who's gonna take her boy
(12:21):
away.
Right.
Right.
then she starts embarrassinghim, which I thought was so
manipulative and emotionallyabusive to be like, oh, did you
see his sheets?
Like, do you know what he does?
Like, do you know he wears thesetypes of like embarrassing
pajamas, like cartoon pajamas?
No, just, that's a sheet.
And showing his like key rooted,you know, sheet, which is just
disgusting.
And then Vicky, the whole
Erin (12:41):
she's just like, you know, she's probably disgusted the
whole time, but she's like, oh,that's fine.
I love superheroes.
I love this.
And, you know, she's just, she'slike, okay.
The people though, she was like,all right.
I am not gonna say I love thathe pees the bed.
Tanya (12:55):
Yeah, that's a little, a little too far.
But she was like, I, I'm stillwith him.
I'm still here.
Yeah.
but yeah, that's, and then the,the scene where they're, they're
eating and she's barbecuing.
The, the little, alligators,alligators.
And they're, they're just likemini.
I was just like, oh, that is sodisgusting.
I was kind of curious.
I wonder what that was made of,because then, then the, the
actress, or Vicki takes a, abite of Yeah.
(13:17):
The head off of one.
Yeah, I'm sure it was probablyjust, I wonder if it was like,
like gummy bear-ish type stuffmaybe,
Erin (13:22):
or maybe some candy or something or something.
I was kind of curious about
Tanya (13:26):
Yeah, because I think I wanted gummy bears at that time
and I was like, I wonder ifthat's a gum bear, gum bear
flavor.
I was in the mood gummy bears.
yeah, I think she's fiercelyloyal and she does see something
very different than, you know,she's kind of rough around the
edges, so she's probably, met alot of characters who they
didn't mean well and she seesthat he does, he does mean well.
(13:48):
He is like a good person.
He maybe doesn't understandthings and can't really stick up
for himself.
Mm-hmm.
He really is truly a goodnatured person.
Yeah.
So I think that's, you know,kind of.
Match there.
And he just, he likes herbecause she's, she's nice to him
and she's, you know, just kindof, kind of different, kind of
has some wild ideas.
she, I also like that she's, shecan fix things up.
(14:11):
She's very mechanicallyinclined.
Yeah.
Erin (14:13):
and she's, it's interesting too'cause she's a
really strong woman andindependent and, you know, so.
It's interesting that he's drawnto that where his mom is too.
His mama is very independent.
She had to be independent sinceRoberto left them.
Tanya (14:28):
like there's similar characteristics, but they're
different because I think hesenses, and this is going way
too deep for the water boy, butthis is what we do.
you know, that I think issomeone who wants.
him to be able to do what hewants to do, whereas his mother,
mama Boucher is very smothering.
And wants, control over him.
Erin (14:46):
Vicki sees like he's having fun on the mud dogs.
He likes playing football.
He's able to be honest with herand tell her that he's doing it
where he tells his mama thathe's gotten attacked by a
gorilla or whatever,
Tanya (15:00):
Oh my gosh.
She puts up the wanted sign of,of wanted, and just a drawing of
a gorilla and then like, likedollar sign, like what is she
gonna do when she gets'em?
Yeah.
Like, like, you know, yell athim or kick him or what?
I don't know.
What are you gonna do?
And I don't think anybody wouldbe like, oh, if I saw Gorilla,
yeah.
I'm gonna go and I'm gonna go
Erin (15:18):
get it for you.
Tanya (15:19):
But I don't know.
Who knows?
once again, this is the WaterBoy world, and we're just going
way too deep with it.
it is hilarious.
we do see Adam Sandler's crew inthere, right?
You got the Rob Schneider and,the same guy that was in the
same,
Erin (15:33):
lemme pull it up quick.
Yeah, the same, Pete, Peter,Dante, he was in Mr.
Deeds.
And Rob Snyder as a usual.
Henry Winkler I think is in acouple of, I feel like we see
Henry Winkler in some othermovies that they do together.
Tanya (15:47):
I think so too.
That sounds right.
Who's like the fawns?
I mean, like, that's just nuts.
Erin (15:51):
and Henry Winkler is really great in this movie too.
Tanya (15:55):
Mm-hmm.
Erin (15:56):
Yeah.
Tanya (15:56):
And he
Erin (15:56):
has a lot of psychological stuff going on too with his
bully Coach Red.
Tanya (16:01):
He kind of has a history with him that we find out where
basically Red stole his playsthat, you know, coach Klein had
made up back in their early dayswhen they were both up for the
head coach job.
Red just aggressively took itfrom him and was like, you know,
are we gonna have to use force?
And took it.
Got the job.
Erin (16:20):
What I really like about that scene is they didn't even
try to make them look younger.
Mm-hmm.
I thought that too.
Oh my gosh.
Tanya (16:27):
That's so true.
And the wigs were so horrible,like.
He's got this like poofed outhair that just looks so, so much
like a wig, you know?
And it's not even like the samecolor.
Like it's just ridiculous.
So funny.
And yeah, they've got likewrinkles and stuff and they're
like, yeah, we're like young,young coaches.
They're in, we're in college.
Which I think is like, that'spart of, I love that in Adam
(16:50):
Sandler's movies, they don't trybecause they just want you to
laugh at that.
Just so ridiculous in and ofitself, which just makes it even
funnier.
Yeah.
So that really is, yeah, he doeshave an issue.
He kind of never really stoodup.
Against, red, you know, so he,whenever he sees him, when he is
playing against him, when hesenses like, oh, he is using
those bullying tactics, he kindof withdraws.
And has that same kind offeeling of like, I can't win
(17:12):
this and get put back into thatplace.
Erin (17:15):
Just like when the whole football team comes on their
bus, when the mud dogs arecelebrating their win and he
coach Red calls out BobbyBoucher for not having a,
diploma or whatever, and sayingthat he lied Coach Klein doesn't
stick up for him.
And then when Bobby finds outthe truth, it's, you know, he
is, he's really upset, you know,like, why couldn't you stick up
(17:36):
for me?
But it's going back to CoachKlein was back to that young
adult feeling the, you know,like, here's my bully and I
can't stick up for him.
I'm, you know, so instead oftraumatized standing up for
someone who I want to, I can't.
Tanya (17:52):
Yeah, trauma.
Trauma affects you in, in a lotof ways.
And he, instead he said, I, Iran in here and I cried under my
desk like a 10-year-old littlegirl, you know?
And yeah, I cried and cried andcried.
Yeah.
He says, yeah, it's, um, yeah.
And then, and then what's kindof ironic is it shows Bobby's
personality and his character.
he helps out, coach Klein andhelps him to kind of deal with
(18:12):
his bully by, you know,visualizing.
him as a little baby and beinglike, oh, he can't really do any
harm, or as like a cute littlepuppy
Erin (18:20):
You
Tanya (18:20):
know, then it, helps him to kind of push through that.
So, again, Bobby's kind of doingsome therapy with other people.
Yeah.
You know, he's kind of pushingsome visualization exercises.
Erin (18:30):
Well, he sees when he sees too that Coach Klein helped him
with those visualization.
Yeah.
Then Bobby's like, wait aminute, this worked for me.
Let's make Coach Klein see alittle baby or little what, you
know, whatever little puppy orsomething so he can start doing
his plays and he's not asintimidating.
Tanya (18:45):
I cracked up at the image of the baby, and especially the
dog.
When the dog came on, I laughedso hard because it was just so
outta place and it was likethese ears and it was just.
This little cocker spaniel, andhe was like, oh.
And I was thinking like, oh, itdoes look cute.
And then I was like, oh my gosh,this so funny.
It was just so bizarre.
And he was just looking, he keptlooking at him smiling and red's
(19:06):
like, why are you smiling at me?
So there's, a lot of themes inhere with bullying, mother, son
relationships, how trauma canaffect you.
How being in a codependentrelationship with your mother
and your mother Keeping you inthat can affect you.
but also with Bobby Boucherkind, overcoming that and being
able to show that he does havethis capacity to be this person.
(19:28):
He was kind of being held backand he wasn't really given the
opportunity and the chances forthis.
and even learning in school, hegets really upset at Colonel
Sanders and tackles him when hesays Mama was wrong.
But then it seems like he'sreally kind of taking on those
courses and is learningsomething.
Yeah.
From it, you know, because laterhe is like, alligators are angry
because of an elongated Abdullahoblong, you know?
(19:51):
or Yeah.
Medulla Oblongata.
Oh my gosh.
Erin (19:54):
I, you know what I mean?
That part, no one's gonna callyou out on it instead of just
being honoree or whatever,
Tanya (20:00):
Mama says it's'cause they got all those teeth and they
can't brush their teeth And kindof funny.
But, yeah.
it really is like, he's kind oflike noticing, oh wow, I've been
kept in this, in this world, butI still love my mama.
You know, at the end he's still,you know, still respects his mom
(20:21):
and still understands that shewent through a hard situation.
That's why she was trying tokeep Her son close to her.
Erin (20:26):
speaking of being close too, like then, you know, when
she finds out the truth that hewas playing football, that's
when she fakes us.
You know, like this illness orwhatever's Oh, yeah.
In like a fake coma.
It's just, you know, very,again, trying to control Bobby
so that he has to quit football,but also stay with her.
Tanya (20:48):
Yeah.
I'm like, oh, you're gonna make,you're gonna destroy me if you
do these things.
And then when she hears all thepeople outside his window being
like, oh, water boy, water boy.
She's like, oh, maybe I havebeen beating him too Selfishly.
People love him.
It's really funny though, in thehospital room where like Steve,
the donkey is allowed and thenlike her whole bed set up is
allowed.
Yeah.
And like just her canopy bed andall her crap is in there.
(21:10):
And it's like basically I, atfirst I was like, oh, they, they
got back home.
Like, that's weird.
And then I was like, oh, they'restill at the hospital.
She just made it her own.
Yeah.
I was accepted, but that's theworld of Adam Sandler is, you
know, just this ridiculousnessand this silliness.
Yeah.
Which is just always fun tovisit.
We are looking at, you know, ofcourse some of the therapy,
skills and themes in this, butobviously this is just overall a
(21:33):
really funny movie that, still,it still holds up.
Erin (21:37):
Again, if you have cable, you'll see it on like weekly.
It's on something.
I don't know, it's just AdamSandler, like I said in Mr.
Deed's episode.
It took me a while to get onthat Adam Sandler thing'cause I
was like, oh my God, he is soimmature, but he's so funny.
And now that I understand AdamSandler, I just, there pretty
much almost all his movies Ilove.
Tanya (21:56):
He's always, you know, there was just a phase where he
was completely.
Absolutely ridiculous.
He may be matured a little bit,but, you know, in different, not
really.
He's still, he still shows hisimmaturity in a lot of different
ways, but it's just hilariousand his perspective.
yeah, and I do think that he isreally skillful and being able
(22:18):
to take on these weird, goofycharacters.
Mm-hmm.
and just humiliate himself andmake really silly, funny movies.
Yeah.
don't know if he's working onanything right now.
Is he still, well, there is,
Erin (22:31):
we did talk about this, like there is gonna be a Happy
Gilmore two.
Right.
Yeah.
So Tanya and I are going to bedoing Happy Gilmore one and two
in the near future.
And also if you guys have anyother Adam Sandler movies that
you can think of that you know,'cause we do get the fan mail
and we do read it.
(22:51):
And if there's anyone that'slike, Hey, what about this?
You know, we'll do it.
Tanya (22:56):
For sure, for sure.
We would love that because he'shilarious and we can always find
some mental health themes inthere.
Of course, you may not wannalook at it from that
perspective.
That's just kind of what we do.
But we just really enjoy thesemovies.
They're funny.
And it's a good break from allthis stuff going on.
Yes,
Erin (23:12):
Yeah.
Kind of watch the
Tanya (23:13):
water Boy.
Yeah, some, some fun stuff.
It was nice to just.
Last night, Sunday night, youknow, I was just kind of like,
Hey, this is, this is a nicedecompressor after watching
various other shows that I wastelling you about, but I don't
watch.
Yeah.
Tanya watch watches a
Erin (23:27):
lot of dark stuff, which I, I have too.
I've been, we've been watchingsome dark show, like Dark Siri,
but I like comedy.
Tanya (23:35):
Yeah.
It's good to you.
Definitely.
Especially with, with thenightmares I get from the true
crime stuff.
Yes.
Erin (23:40):
Maybe you shouldn't, yeah.
Maybe you should make sure youdon't watch that late at night
or
Tanya (23:44):
I tell myself that and then I end up just doing it.
And I'm like, I won't, and thenI do it.
Erin (23:48):
just two more.
Tanya (23:49):
yeah, yeah.
I get, I get kind of hooked onit, but that's just me and my
own issues.
Mm-hmm.
Anything else that we wanna addto the Water Boy, which is
Erin (23:58):
I think we covered most of the topics that we had said we
wanted to, it's obviouslyspoilers but again, this was
released in 1998, And it's agood movie.
it's not politically correct, ofcourse, but it's funny and it's.
A good movie.
It's Adam Sandler.
Tanya (24:16):
Yeah, there's definitely gonna be the 1998.
And I'm not, you know, of coursewe don't, we don't excuse this,
but there, there is, there aresome, you know, terms that are
used, some things that areprobably some people, you know,
maybe that grew up in adifferent generation that are,
that are younger.
Probably would, would be like,wow, that's really, that's
(24:37):
really hurtful.
Know awful.
The way, you know, he wasbullied, the names he was called
and the things that wereallowed.
Erin (24:42):
Hopefully people don't call people anything like that
now, and it, no, it's not Right.
it was a different time.
Tanya (24:49):
it was something where I think that was kind of thrown
around a lot.
should we get onto our, I'm notgonna say this is a fun
question.
Oh, but it's an interesting one.
Okay.
Well, it's kind of a gross one.
Oh, so it's cuisine based.
Okay.
Oh, gross.
Okay.
So if you had to choose betweeneating the snake and the movie
or the alligators, which wouldyou choose?
Erin (25:09):
Well.
The snake.
At least she sliced it.
You know, she gave Coach Kleinthe knee kneecap or whatever she
said, and the alligators.
I don't know how else you eatthe alligators, except how Vicki
did just go right in it and justeat the head.
I don't know.
They're just, they're both sounappetizing looking.
I guess if I was forced, I wouldchoose the snake.
(25:31):
What about you?
Tanya (25:32):
Go the other direction.
I would choose the alligatorsbecause I know that there is
alligator meat that, you know,people have told me.
I think one of my sisters saidshe tried it and it tastes like
chicken.
she had it when she was visitingFlorida a while back.
and I just picture that that maybe more palatable.
But I don't think I would eat itthe way Vicki did.
(25:53):
But I think I would probably gofor that because the thought of
eating a snake is like theinnards, just
Erin (25:59):
like the texture just makes it sick.
Yeah, both of it.
Both of it just seems so gross.
I would just ask, Helen mama ifI could not eat, but
Tanya (26:06):
she would be very insulted though.
'cause that's her specialtycuisine, it seems.
Erin (26:10):
you fresh catch whatever I catch.
Tanya (26:12):
Yeah.
That's her, that's her thing.
That's her specialty.
Oh my God.
I'm still like picturing thatsnake on the table just makes me
absolutely.
Well then they're gonna have
Erin (26:21):
squirrel for dessert, so that's also yummy.
Tanya (26:24):
Yeah, that was cotton, like that, that light thing.
And she was like, yeah,squirrel.
Squirrel.
yeah.
So, I mean, to each their own,maybe some people do.
Eat that, you know, whatever.
I just personally, it doesn'tappeal to me.
Erin (26:36):
I mean, no,
Tanya (26:37):
I'm sure most people, I also think if people were to eat
that, it would be served verydifferently.
Erin (26:41):
Yeah.
I don't think you would have thefull snake wrapped up with an
apple and some mouth or howeverit was.
Tanya (26:46):
Yeah.
And the alligator probably wouldbe like in pieces, not like in a
hole, like not the baby.
Erin (26:52):
Yeah.
And you wouldn't see the babies.
You'd be like, oh, babies.
Tanya (26:55):
we wonder what, you know, if, if you have an answer to
that and some explanation, butThat's our thoughts on not only
cuisine that is.
It's not appealing to us, butalso, a movie, let us know.
Erin (27:05):
And I have seen people eat snake on like naked and afraid
and stuff like that when theyhave to, you know, but, and I
think Survivor, but I don'tknow.
Tanya (27:13):
I think I was, I was judging it based on the way it
was served.
Oh yeah.
In the movie.
Oh yeah.
Definitely.
Disgusting.
Like that's what I would do.
Yeah.
so gross.
But if it were served updifferently, maybe, maybe my
opinion would, would change, youknow?
But just in the movie, I'dprobably go for that alligator.
Erin (27:26):
I'd have to do the snake.
Yeah.
Tanya (27:28):
yeah, if you have any thoughts or anything that we
missed out on or anything youjust wanna add, if you love the
water board, if you hate it, ifyou don't really care, if you
just wanna watch it and see ifyou're of the younger
generation.
Yeah.
First time.
Or maybe third time, butwatching it at different times,
let us know.
'cause my opinion was definitelyvery different.
you know, I used to just kind ofcapitalize this when I was
(27:49):
younger, but now it's kindalike, this is stupid, but it was
like a stupid laugh, you know,like mm-hmm.
It's, it's, but it's stillfunny.
It's still very enjoyable.
so yeah.
So make sure to, follow us on.
Socials, we are on everything.
Yeah.
Instagram, Facebook, and evenYouTube.
Just look up wickedpsychotherapists.
Erin (28:09):
And don't forget, stay wicked and keep your mind well.
All right, everybody.
Have a great week.
Bye-bye.
Tanya (28:15):
Bye.
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