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Join Tanya and Erin on Wicked Psychotherapists as they break down the romantic comedy Just Go With It (2011).
From surprise streaming finds to the hilarious (and sometimes outrageous) twists in Adam Sandler and Jennifer Aniston’s chemistry, they unpack the movie’s quirky plot, lovable characters, and hidden lessons about relationships, authenticity, and self-worth.
Whether you’re a longtime Adam Sandler fan, a rom-com enthusiast, or just curious about the psychology behind love, lies, and pretending, this episode delivers a fun yet insightful conversation.
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Hey guys, this is Tanya.
Hi, it's Erin and welcome toWicked Psychotherapist.
Tanya (00:36):
Yeah, today we are jumping back on the Adam Train,
Adam Sandler, and, getting backto one of his not very well
known movies, From 2011,although he is with Jennifer
Aniston.
so it's, just go with It, whichwas on Netflix for me.
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and also I believe is availableon Prime to rent
Erin (01:03):
I didn't realize it was on Netflix.
I ended up renting in on Prime'cause I had no idea.
So I could have watched it forfree.
Tanya (01:12):
Well, I saw it there and started watching when I, came
back from being in Portugal wehad a VPN set to Portugal, and I
think there's other titlesavailable there, so I think it
was available there, but Ididn't see it here.
I don't know if maybe it wasonly available, so it, it may
not have been available in theUS or unless you have A-A-V-P-N
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set right.
To somewhere outside of the us.
Okay.
But, It, it's, so I watched halfof it there in Portugal and then
I rented it too'cause I waslike, I can't find it here.
So, yeah, unless it said it wasleaving soon, I don't know.
Maybe it left But, yeah, it wasvery soon, whatever it is, it's
a remake.
of, cactus Flower from 1969, Andyes, I've never seen that.
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I did not watch it to compareit, so I don't know.
If it's the same or Adam justadded his own flare because he
was a producer I think, but,what did you think of the movie
overall?
Erin (02:07):
there was parts I really liked, like I liked the kids.
I did like Jennifer, Aniston andAdam Sandler.
I did not like the cousin atall.
I wish he wasn't in the movie.
I think it kind of ruined mostof it for me.
Any scene that he was in I justthought he was really annoying.
it seems like most of the.
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Characters.
what is his name?
Nick Schwartzen or somethinglike that.
He's, he always annoys me.
I don't know.
I think it's just very, maybe Idon't get that juvenile humor
It's just really dumb.
Tanya (02:39):
Yeah.
It was a little too over thetop.
And I mean that is kind of AdamSandler, but I think we like
Adam Sandler's brand of doingthat, like his older style.
Whereas I wasn't feeling it fromthe cousin character either.
but I did think it was the, youknow, Adam Sandler and Jennifer
Anderson do have some sort ofnice chemistry, I think
together.
You know, there is somethingthere.
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I don't sense it's really Right.
But they have some good kind ofcomedic playoff, with each other
Yeah.
And the kids are cute.
it was kind of a, twisted,strange plot, but I think that's
probably, from the sixties theywere working with that, or just
wanted to make it kind ofquirky.
But yeah, it had its goodpoints, but it was definitely
not, at our top favorite forAdam movies.
Erin (03:22):
I liked, I think the last, I don't even know how long the
movie was.
I'd say like the last half of itI liked, I liked it.
I liked most of the time theywere in Hawaii.
I liked all of the stuff with,Dr.
Daniel and Catherine, theircommunication, their friendship,
even when they're workingtogether, like the quirkiness in
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the office.
it just seemed genuine.
It seemed, like realconversations.
It's not like slapstick, likeyou could figure out, why they
might have a good friendship ora good relationship
Tanya (03:53):
Yeah.
And it was funny because at theend when they were, I know we're
jumping way ahead here, but Imean, at the end when
assumingly, you've all seen itif you're watching this, yeah.
At the end when they weretalking about, I think we're
safe there.
when they were talking about,her friend Devlin or whatever
played by Nicole Kidman.
but she's like, say what youlike about each other.
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And it seemed almost like, likethey were not only as
characters, like kind of beinglike, oh yeah, I can see this
about you.
Like I really appreciate thesethings.
But I think there was a littlebit maybe of them as actors kind
of being like, I really likethat.
I wonder if that was sort ofimprovised.
I Sort of got that feeling, Idon't know.
just in a friendly way.
Yeah, it could be.
Erin (04:35):
'cause it did seem very genuine, you know, like, I
really like this about you Idon't know if that was the first
time they worked together itmight have been because it was
definitely years before themurder mystery.
But you can tell that.
they had really good workingchemistry, back then.
it was nice.
I liked that part where theywere looking at each other and
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genuinely telling each other howthey felt.
you could tell it was deeperthan just a boss and an
employee.
Tanya (05:05):
Yeah.
they definitely had, you know,the girlfriend Palmer was
saying, oh, well you just, youseem to know so much about him.
And she was kind of realizing,yeah, I guess I do.
I know like that he needs his.
Cotton candy and peanut butter,jelly beans, separated into
Ziploc bags all these veryspecific details about him,
which I was kind of thinkingjust in my own, you know,
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outside of the movie, I was justthinking like.
Seriously, Of course she's goingto, she supposedly has been
married to him and you've likebeen on two dates with this guy.
of course she knows a lot moreabout him.
Erin (05:40):
she's worked with him for, I don't know, 20 years or
something like that.
Tanya (05:44):
Yeah.
it's definitely they developed agood connection maybe without
realizing it.
And I think That's the wholepoint of the movie, just go with
it.
It's just kind of like, Hey,this actually is where it ended
up leading us and it was rightin front of us.
I definitely thought there weresome themes of.
not being aware of the peoplethat are around you or not
realizing how connected you areto people, in general, even at
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work or in friendships.
Maybe not seeing your self worthin what you could offer in a
relationship.
I know Catherine, JenniferAniston's character seemed to
count herself out ofrelationships, or she was
selling herself short with thatkind of the gray soul patch guy
or whatever, and like, yeah,just, you know, that didn't
really seem to date too muchand.
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I was like, oh, I have two kids.
Like, almost like it wasn't aselling point and like she was
kind of like, oh, nobody's gonnawant that kind of thing.
in her mind, you know?
And yeah.
and Daniel, Adam Sandler wasprobably still traumatized by
his first wife.
You know, just basically openlycheating on him Also making fun
of his sister, and just kind ofmocking him overall.
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I do think there were definitelytwo people who were very much
more similar than, they realizedmore connected than they
realized and they kind of had togo through all these things To
figure it out.
I felt like it could have beenshorter.
a little more direct with someof these things.
I don't feel like it had to be.
As roundabout, I could have donewithout the scene with the
sheep, with the cousin.
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I just didn't really like that.
I thought it was odd.
Erin (07:17):
Well, I think it was a weird way for the cousin and
Palmer to bond, you know,because it was like, okay,
they're having this dinnerbecause.
he's so gross and she's, youknow, like they're just trying
to figure out,'cause supposedlythey're all gonna be family and
then this sheep thing happensand then they come back all
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drunk and happy and bonded.
So I think that's the roundaboutway of how can we make this
ridiculous thing so that the twoof them have this connection and
Not have them having arelationship or anything, but
just like this, oh, we had thisreally wacky shared experience
of, you know, he had to havethis, you know, give Heimlich
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maneuver to the sheep and dah,dah, dah, dah, you know?
So, we're so bonded and we'retalking about marriage and I let
it slip that, you know, that,you know, you bought a
engagement ring and you know,so, or that you're looking at
engagement rings I think that'sprobably why it was there.
it wasn't really needed, likethe whole, again, I would be
really fine without the cousinor Palmer in the movie at all.
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But
Tanya (08:23):
I guess they were kind of just props, essentially, like
prop characters to be there forthe main characters to get over
their obstacles but I justdidn't really enjoy the way the
characters were.
written It didn't really addmuch to it.
usually those kinds ofcharacters have to add to it.
But then again, I realize thisis a remake.
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And it's just a silly film,
Erin (08:46):
I guess he does a couple remakes because didn't you say
that Mr.
Deeds was a remake too Mm-hmm.
so it's interesting.
Tanya (08:52):
yeah, I guess he likes, older movies, classics.
it's strange when I was thinkingabout the whole plot and the way
it was going and the characters,I was like, I could actually see
some of these characters in asixties movie.
I could see this kind of being alittle older and I think that's
maybe why it sometimes didn'tseem to fit, maybe he was trying
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to capture the essence.
Of that or something in there.
Or maybe it just didn't reallywork.
it felt a little off.
I felt bad for the kids becausethey were essentially being used
and even though they negotiatedprices or whatever.
They're still kids and they'rehaving to pretend that this
person is their dad who theyknow pretty well.
Right.
But, the little boy starts tobreak down and cry.
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Like, my dad doesn't spend timewith me.
And he's like, what was that?
you're ruining my chances withthis girl.
And it's like, this poor kid istrying to say something.
So I thought that was a little,traumatizing.
I realized it was going for thatcomedic effect, but I personally
just don't find things like thatfunny.
Right.
I don't know, I'm just kind oflike, Ugh, that didn't really
land well.
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but then he, redeems himself,like he teaches him how to swim.
He does actually, seem to reallycare about them.
At a certain point when hestarts to realize like, maybe
Palmer is not his, someone he.
loves, which is not surprisingto me because I don't feel like
they spent that much timetogether I think he just maybe
saw it as like, oh, this is aperson that's sort of slightly
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different than a person I wouldtry to trick and just have a one
eight stand with.
Yeah.
Erin (10:22):
he had the ring in the pocket when they met So she saw
him as not married and wasattracted to him.
So he felt like she wascompletely different, not
realizing that, it's stillsomeone that he hooked up with,
but maybe there's not really, aconnection.
he was able to see that, becausehe saw like, oh, wait a minute.
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Something's different.
I'm not wearing my ring.
So there must be a trueconnection.
Tanya (10:47):
Mm-hmm.
Erin (10:47):
it probably was not realizing that if I did have the
ring, it would've been just likeevery other person.
She's just
Tanya (10:54):
Yeah, that's true.
And so maybe that was kind ofhim feeling like, oh, okay, if
that's my only criteria.
But he forgot to look at if theyactually have a connection.
And I don't know, Palmer seemedto be a character that was very
Annoyingly naive.
she just kind of boughteverything that was presented to
her and, you know, sort ofquestioned it, but not really,
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and I don't know.
I just didn't really, that justseems so far gone after a while.
it's unrealistic.
It's weird.
but I think that it really.
dealt with themes of self-imageand how we handle Past traumas
and relationships, how we seeourselves after that.
the kids and how they feel withtheir dad.
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forgetting to pick them up andnot spending time with them
Erin (11:39):
and I think that Made, Daniel realize oh, maybe I
shouldn't just be posing likethe time when they're all taking
pictures, at the golf course.
he is like, why can't we justhave actual fun instead of
taking pictures that we'rehaving fun?
And that's when he realizedmaybe we should do.
Something different.
So it's not just fake fun, we'reactually having experiences I
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think part of him started torealize they're not just props,
they are humans and they've hadtrauma from being abandoned from
their father.
So I can't keep re-triggeringthem or re-traumatizing them.
Tanya (12:15):
Yeah.
for sure.
they were telling him so manytimes like our dad He was just
so focused on himself.
Which is a common theme with hischaracters.
they can be kind of selfish likein Big Daddy, and then they
redeem themselves and have a bigheart.
he tends to kind of have a lotof characters that he plays that
have those common.
Pattern.
Mm-hmm.
So he probably identifies withthat, Maybe that would be my
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guess.
But, I do like how he did havesome people that he does cast a
lot.
Like Kevin Neland the guy withtoo much and a lot of, yeah.
Yeah.
Surgery couldn't, plasticsurgery,
Erin (12:48):
even drink.
Tanya (12:48):
And his laugh was so goofy.
And then, his wife was the firstfiance who traumatized him and
cheated on him, the openingscene, which I think is funny
that he put her there.
That I think speaks to theircomedy together.
They're good together.
I think it was odd that they allwent on a vacation together,
even though I know his quoteunquote son Michael, which is
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Catherine's son, tricked, Palmerinto being like, oh, well he
promised he would take me toHawaii, and then he felt like he
had to do it.
And then, you know, his.
She felt like, oh, well I'mgonna be part of the family.
So, yeah, let's, let's talk itover with your, with your ex,
with your wife or your soon tobe ex-wife and was just being
friendly.
And then with the guy shesupposedly cheated with, that
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was a weird thing.
Yeah.
I thought it was weird
Erin (13:33):
I guess that's all part of that I was gonna say, it's kind
of weird too, because theyweren't divorced and then
they're planning to get married,you know?
Or she thought they were gonnaget married, like at the very
end.
it was very dumb, Palmer onlywanted, yeah.
She's like, let's get marriedtomorrow.
Making herself feel like she's,you've been on three dates,
Palmer, you know the family.
Tanya (13:52):
she was kind of painted, very naive.
I think she was probably onlysupposed to be in her mid
twenties or something.
She was supposed to be youngerbut yeah, she all dancing.
I do think she was kind of like,yeah, listening to, she's like,
that's my jam.
it really is.
it's just odd.
And how she's like, oh, well youshould be able to tell us
anything to the kids.
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And already kind of playing likea stepmom figure They're not
quite divorced.
it was just the whole old, like1960s movies of it all, I think.
I think that's really what itwas.
And they were just like, oh,let's just play it up.
That's what I think I haven'tseen the original, but I think
that's maybe what it was.
Yeah.
it was not as many people, as henormally would have, like
recurring characters.
It was Kevin Neland and hiswife.
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I think those are prettyAnderson guess at the very
beginning,
Erin (14:37):
at the very beginning it was like the whole crew.
at the restaurant or whatever,when he still had the big nose
at the bar, He was just sittingthere.
Then he ended up going with thepretty girl it was like the
whole crew, a bunch of the guys.
Oh, the guy.
Oh, so they weren't in there.
Okay.
Yeah, the guy, the guy with theweird eye, you know, a few other
people that were in Mr.
Deeds and you know, so a lot ofthose people were there.
Tanya (15:01):
At the very beginning.
So they were kind of, they werejust very much, that was a part
where the kind of had stoppedfor me and I had to keep
reloading it.
There were certain parts I kindof missed, but I'm glad.
So he did include it in themovie?
Yeah.
So his signature elements werethere.
That's good.
I like how he had some of thevoices that, strained voice,
that, Sandler voice.
Right.
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And he made some jokes, somefunny sarcastic jokes, and,
definitely, had some of theessence of Adam I keep thinking
of the part after the hulacontest and the coconut and they
beat Nicole Kidman and DaveMatthews.
Yeah.
and they, you know, kind of aresort of looking like they're
going to like kiss and, youknow, all this stuff and they're
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kind of going back and forth andthey're having just really kind
of playful banter, but it's alittle awkward, like they're
both kind of shy, Yeah.
I sensed a little bit of, improvthere too.
I sensed they were just goingback and saying silly things.
I think that made the other onelaugh.
I think that shows theirchemistry too.
Yeah.
I thought that was another.
Pretty cool part of that.
Erin (16:04):
Yeah.
And I did like how, Catherinewas able to work through her
trauma of Devlin because thathad been something since
college, you know, that shehated this woman so much or you
know, and'cause she was such asnob, but they're able to
finally be, you know, like whenthey're at the bar at the very
end be like, you know.
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I hate my husband, you know, andthey're just talking and then
finally saying you know, I'mdivorced and just be honest.
Because it always seemed likethere was a competition and they
never were truly honest.
so that was, you know, just evenlike talking about Catherine
before was like, Ugh, Devlin,this is my nemesis.
And trying to see her andautomatically feeling like she
had to one up her or be at thesame level as her in a sense.
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Yeah.
But then it's like, oh, wait aminute.
we're both going through stuffthat we've been hiding and even
how devlin's like, oh, myhusband didn't invent the iPod.
Or whatever.
You know, it is like he just,
Tanya (16:59):
he likes, sued the Dodgers from a fly ball that hit
'em
Erin (17:02):
Yeah.
Tanya (17:03):
Yeah.
And she's like, and he's gay.
She just knew that so casually.
Erin (17:07):
look at him.
Tanya (17:08):
He's over there trying to flirt with sailors and, yeah.
Yeah, that was pretty funny.
and the fact that it's DaveMatthews, like, what a random
casting of Nicole Kidman andDave Matthews from Dave Matthews
Band.
If anybody doesn't know whatwe're talking about, Dave
Matthews Band is a band, theyhave a very particular, I don't
even know honestly what genrethey would be, but it's like jam
Erin (17:28):
jam, like, it's like jam, whatever.
Kind of like how, Phish andstuff.
Just kind of like, all right.
Just kind of, yeah.
I never really, I never reallyliked Dave Matthews, but,
there's one song that I'm like,ah, that's tolerable.
But yeah, I've never been a bigDave Matthews fan.
Tanya (17:42):
I did like some of their music in high school.
I'm not a huge fan.
I just thought it was reallyrandom.
I wonder why he was, I wonder ifAdam is friends with him or
something.
I don't know.
Strange, maybe.
I just thought it was random.
And I really liked that parttoo.
I agree with you.
With where they healed theirfriendship and were able to sort
of take off their masks.
we knew that Catherine wastrying to impress her and even
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named poop after Devlin, becauseof just how much she, she
despised her, but also was kindof very insecure by her.
And then to see Devlin be like,you know, like I, my husband's
gay we're getting a divorce.
Like to see her kind of be like,mm-hmm.
Take off the mask too, wasreally, you know, that was, that
was really healing.
Erin (18:19):
yeah,
Tanya (18:20):
that would be nice to have that with some people, you
know, to be able to kind of feellike, oh, that would be cool.
I don't know if that justhappens in the movies, but Who
knows?
Right.
Erin (18:28):
Yeah.
Tanya (18:29):
But I thought that was to be able to have that chance of
Erin (18:31):
somebody that tortured you or you've to have that closure
too, because it's not likethey're gonna become best
friends.
It's just like, okay.
We both, Said our truth and justkind of, okay, we're okay now.
Tanya (18:45):
Yeah.
And I sensed when they werehugging and they were kind of
like, oh, we should have beendoing this from the beginning, I
sensed that they actually arekind of friends in real life
too, because they, they wereboth in in something, haven't
they?
Together?
I don't know.
I think they have, I don'tremember.
Nicole, Kim and JenniferAnderson.
I, I may be mixing up some oftheir shows'cause I know.
Jennifer Aniston was in themorning show and Nicole Kidman
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was in like.
All the lies we tell orsomething, I think I always mix
some of those.
I think there was another showthat maybe they were in.
You guys can let us know.
I feel like they've workedtogether again, but maybe I
just, I could definitely imaginethat.
Erin (19:20):
I don't know.
I just watched the, recentlyjust watched the Perfect Couple
with Nicole Kidman.
That was pretty good.
That was on Netflix.
Tanya (19:27):
Yeah.
Oh, that was actually prettygood.
That was good.
That was very psychologically,that could be something
Erin (19:34):
we talk about sometime.
Tanya (19:36):
Yeah.
That might be something to addto the list for sure.
Because that really, stayed withme.
I was like, I will add it rightnow.
Erin (19:43):
Wow.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, let's do it.
But I can't think of anythingthat they have been in together
though.
Jennifer Aniston and NicoleKidman.
Tanya (19:53):
I could have imagined it could have been like the preview
for one of their shows was nextto another one of their shows.
I'd often do that.
And we'll mix it up.
that's the way my brain works.
it was a very kind of,convoluted plot, but it
definitely had its moments of,of charm with, with, Jennifer
Anderson, Adam Sandler, and thekids.
The kids are cute.
Erin (20:10):
definitely.
Tanya (20:11):
Yeah.
I liked the daughter, Maggie,how she was.
Like into acting and she likeoveract and she just seemed so
confident and sure of herself.
Good day governor.
Erin (20:22):
Yeah.
Tanya (20:22):
She was really into her British accent.
She was a cutie.
and Michael was kind of serious,but also his own quirky
character too.
I like that.
Erin (20:31):
I was thinking like, a little solemn too, kind of like,
you know.
Tanya (20:34):
That's a good way to describe him.
He kind of had a wise beyond hisyears kind of thing.
But then he was very much alittle kid.
it was an interesting combo.
Erin (20:42):
He's like, yes, well, I really wanna swim with the
dolphins.
and I liked when they were like,oh, well you don't know how to
swim.
Why would you pick Swim with aDolphins?
And he is.
Well, I didn't really think thatall the way through.
Tanya (20:53):
Yeah.
Like that's his little kid part.
That was cute.
Yeah.
It was a cute movie.
It was, probably not ourfavorite, but again, I think
that Jennifer Anderson and theAdam Sandler connection kept me
going in it, in the kids.
Erin (21:05):
I,
Tanya (21:06):
for that
Erin (21:06):
same here, I really liked almost every scene that the two
of them were together, and Iloved the kids.
the little girl was really funnytoo.
Tanya (21:12):
Yeah, I looked her up because I was like, oh, I wonder
what she's doing now, and Idon't, she's done some, a few
things since.
but she is like, like gorgeous,like just, I mean, not like she,
yeah.
She, you know, I could see,could see how she, she is, but
like, I, I think she's been insome other things.
I don't know if she's like kindof concentrating on other things
or I miss that she's been inanything recently, but maybe
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she's kind of focusing on someother things, but she has, gone
on to do some other things.
the little boy I couldn't getmuch information on.
I love the choices he makes inactors.
I think he's very intentionalabout it And by that I mean Adam
'cause I think he was a directoror producer or something.
honestly, not sure I know thedifference.
he was something important inthe movie and it was a, a just
a, a nice little, a nice film towatch.
(21:55):
I think we probably wouldn'thave watched otherwise, or heard
of.
I feel like I have seen itbefore.
Erin (21:59):
I think I've seen it before.
I just don't remember.
You know, like when we werewatching Murder Mystery, I was
like, I know I've seen this, butI didn't remember how it ended,
I do remember the Hawaii theme,I just don't remember everything
else I could have blocked itout.
'cause I hated the cousin somuch.
maybe.
Tanya (22:15):
I really think that could have gone in a different
direction.
his character, like maybe theyneeded a distraction, but it
just could have gone a differentway.
I think Palmer was okay.
I think she was a little naive,but maybe that just kind of
worked.
But his character especially wasirksome
Erin (22:29):
I think it was just, It was like, all right, this is,
beyond annoying.
It was too over the top, It'slike, all right, we understand
what you're trying to do, butmaybe not so much.
Tanya (22:37):
yeah.
I just did not like the sheepscene at all.
It made me Kind of sick.
I understand they needed it, butI really just was like, Ugh, I
don't wanna see this.
even though I know it was a fakesheep, obviously, but No, thank
you.
I don't find animals, even ifit's obviously not real, I don't
find That funny.
I just don't like that.
anything else that we can thinkof that we didn't talk about
Erin (23:00):
I think a lot of the main things were being a single
mother, you know, like how younavigate that, like your
relationship with yourcoworkers.
Know your identities.
You know, like,'cause that'slike all everyone's identity
from like, you know, Daniel and,you know, being like, you know,
first he's rejected from hiswife.
He hears like the horriblethings that she's said, and then
(23:22):
his identity, because he'smourning not getting married.
And then he is like, oh, wait aminute, this is gonna work for
me.
his identity now is thisplayboy, single person to,
Figuring out maybe that's notwho I wanna be.
And Catherine, her identity aslike this assistant and single
mother, best friend probably tohim and they're all just trying
(23:45):
to figure out who they are.
Tanya (23:47):
Yeah.
for sure.
I think that's a good, good,good points to look at.
And I mean, it, it really, Ithink was just a very
interesting way to put it alltogether.
Adam was there.
Jennifer Anderson was there, thekids were there.
that's a bonus.
if you get a chance, I don'tthink it's on Netflix anymore,
so you might have to rent it onPrime.
(24:07):
Or maybe you have anotherstreaming service that has it,
but it's worth it.
I think it was only like threebucks to rent,
Erin (24:13):
It was very cheap.
Tanya (24:14):
Yeah.
Not too bad.
Want to ask a challengequestion?
Oh yeah.
Okay.
Michael, the little boy, hisdream was to swim with the
dolphins.
I know he didn't really plan out'cause he couldn't really swim,
but he still had the dream andhe was able to do it and he got
to do it.
And he was success.
He got to do it.
(24:34):
Yeah.
he was like standing up withthem and everything.
That was really great.
What would, if you could choosejust one thing that would be on
your bucket list what would beone thing you would want to do?
Well, I
Erin (24:47):
I think I'd really like to see puffins in like.
The wild, like, you know, sincewe're going like the animal
theme, like since he diddolphins, I think the first
thing that came to me would belike, I'd like to, you know,
I've never really seen puffins,I think are just like the cutest
birds, and either that or Idon't know.
I've always wanted to.
Go to like a elephant sanctuaryor something like that.
(25:10):
I think that would be kind ofcool.
there's one in Tennessee that'ssupposed to be humongous but you
have to be a volunteer andstuff.
So it's a pain in the neck totry to do it.
But I think that is'cause I'mjust thinking animals now
because of the dolphin thing.
Tanya (25:24):
I don't think that's stupid at all.
I think that's really cool.
that's a really cool thing.
I wouldn't have even thought ofthat, but that's a Really cool
thing that probably not a lot ofpeople get to see.
Yeah.
I actually like that you didthat animal themed.
I'm trying to think of somethinganimal themed because I don't
have an answer.
I asked the question and Ididn't have an answer.
I really don't know.
Right now, I am just coming offof a three week trip where I was
(25:47):
traveling on a motorcyclethroughout Europe and I just
came back yesterday.
So I am not with it too muchright now.
I am trying to, my brain is notreally working too well.
I'm also still, I think jetlagged, but,
Erin (26:01):
What would be an animal experience you'd want.
Tanya (26:04):
That's what I was thinking.
I was like, that's a really goodway to put that.
And so I'm really trying tothink of something because I
don't know what I would do.
Oh man, the puffins is reallycute.
you can come with me.
I don't know if there's, you cando
Erin (26:16):
puffins.
Tanya (26:18):
I would like to see the puffins, And the, elephant
sanctuary.
I think that's a really goodidea.
man, you had some good ones.
I'm trying to think of someanimals.
I don't know.
Um, maybe go see.
I'm thinking of some like, I'mlike, ooh, sharks, tigers, lion.
And I'm like, I'm scared todeath of all of those,
Erin (26:37):
whenever you see the people, in the shark, cage, it's
like, oh my gosh, I can'tbelieve they did that.
So crazy.
Tanya (26:43):
I would not, do it.
I would not do that.
And same with like a crocodile,like those crocodile cages.
That they have sometimes.
No way.
Wouldn't do it.
Erin (26:50):
That would be scary.
Or like how people go in boats,where hippos are.
No, thank you.
Tanya (26:57):
No, I'm scared to death of those.
I read some scary story aboutthat and I was like, they're
out.
There's really, I mean, I, Iguess I've kind of always, I
don't know, like pandas andkoala bears I guess would, would
be pretty nice to, to see, eventhough know that that would be
really nice.
Pandas are not the nicest, youknow, but, I know that's not
(27:18):
like a very original answer.
but it's, I think that thatwould be cute, you know, to kind
of be able to see them.
Erin (27:24):
Yeah, my dad went to a, my dad went to a koala sanctuary
in, I think it was in NewZealand when he was stationed in
Tonga for the Peace Corps.
he has the cutest picture of himholding a koala.
he said they were so soft, butit just seems like it'd be
really neat.
Tanya (27:42):
That is cute.
Yeah.
my nieces both studied abroad inAustralia and they were able to
visit some koala bears.
that's pretty cool.
And I think my sister did toowhen she visited.
so I just think that would becool.
my mom when I was younger, thisis.
Really odd, but she used to callme a qua bear So maybe that's
why I was thinking of it.
Oh, that's neat.
(28:03):
Maybe I gave good hugs and I wassoft.
I don't know.
Yeah.
So that is my challenge questionthat I did not think out very
well, but Erin had some greatanswers.
next time I will think it outbefore I kind of just think of
'em on the fly, I really shouldhave thought that, but that's
okay.
I mean, I think it worked out.
I think the puffins
Erin (28:21):
Yeah.
Tanya (28:21):
Yeah.
We got there.
I always puffins,
Erin (28:23):
puffins have always been my favorite.
I don't know, they're so cute.
Tanya (28:27):
They really are.
Yeah, they are.
They're very different too,right?
Like in terms of yeah, penguins,like are they different
behaviorally and stuff likethat.
Well, and they could be on rocks
Erin (28:35):
I mean, they like cold, like penguins and stuff, They
just seem really cute.
Tanya (28:39):
Cool.
I love that.
I really like that.
I need to learn some more aboutsome animals and be like, Ooh, I
wanna go see'em, because I'mjust, yeah.
I'm behind the times and that.
But yeah, so that is, that is astory of us.
I also, did want to, Close outthis episode and I know, Erin,
(29:00):
you had brought it before, ifyou don't wanna say this, we can
just, but you know, you hadtalked about how you were going
to have to be radioactive
Erin (29:10):
Oh yeah.
I never really gave anyexplanation, did I?
Gonna be radioactive.
I ended up.
Getting diagnosed with thyroidcancer a few months ago, back in
April or something.
Then I had a thyroidectomy inJune.
part of the treatment is I hadto take radioactive iodine, a
(29:31):
radiation pill that theyactually had to give to me in a
lead container.
The, A physicist and the doctor.
Gave it to me, and it wasinteresting.
After I swallowed the pill, theyput a geer counter on my neck
and then on my stomach.
So like, as soon as I swallowedit, I was already radioactive.
(29:51):
after that, I was, contained inmy room.
Not able to see the kids or myhusband or the animals for four
days straight.
So it was like, how to feed mein a, quick way.
after that I was able to be outof my room for six feet apart,
but at first just like an hourat a time and then longer.
(30:12):
it was, seven days of, strangealoneness.
I, did a lot of.
Watching tv, reading differentart.
So it was, definitely different.
It was a different experiencethan when I wa when I had chemo.
Because chemo I could have,everyone can come and hang out
with me and see me after while Iwas recovering.
But I was glad too,'cause I wasreally worried that I was going
(30:36):
to have really strange Sideeffects, thankfully just the
first day I woke up with a superhuge neck, and I guess that's
because it attaches to yourthyroid.
after that, I massaged it andput ice packs and it was fine
later that day or the next day.
I was super anxious about it.
I was like having more anxietythan I think I've ever had,
(30:56):
leading up to it.
that's a scary thing.
'cause I was like, how big isthe pill gonna be?
what's gonna happen?
Is all my hair gonna fall out?
So like, I was really worriedabout like, how is it gonna be
like, not seeing everybody, butwe managed with FaceTime the
kids would come to my window inthe bedroom and I'd open the
window and they'd stand six feetapart because the doctor said
(31:18):
it's kind of like a, x-ray.
So I'm still omitting six feetapart from wherever I was.
we still managed, it wasdifferent.
it definitely teaches you, okay,I can be alone this time.
I couldn't even leave my roomfor the first four days.
So at least after that I can gooutside.
Then I'm allowed to pet theanimals after day four.
But I just couldn't let themkiss me or lick me for a few
(31:40):
days because I guess animals area little bit different.
They said so they can be pet.
But, yeah.
So it's, yeah, it was just alittle, it was, Ooh, glad that
part's over
Tanya (31:51):
That was very, very difficult for you.
Erin (31:53):
Oh, and also, I was on this crazy diet beforehand for
like two weeks.
I couldn't have iodine, so wehad to make our own bread.
Todd had to make all the food.
it was a lot of work.
it was different.
Sounds like you don't realizehow much iodine, is in
everything, not just salt,because you can have non iodine
salt, but you can't have.
Iodine so that the radioactiveiodine attaches to the thyroid I
(32:17):
never knew anything about mythyroid before all this started,
Tanya (32:19):
yeah, I don't think a lot of people know that.
I don't think, you know, peoplerealize that that is a, a, a
thing, you know, that, that,yeah.
There can be a radioactive.
Pill.
to detect for that.
So yeah.
You have gone radioactive.
You can officially say that.
and came out on the other side,we are wishing that is,
(32:40):
positive.
And I think it is,
Erin (32:41):
from what I looked at, it looked like everything was fine.
I just don't know.
Officially, you know, but Idon't know.
I, from what I read, it lookedpositive.
it looks like it's all cancerfree, so that makes me happy.
Tanya (32:53):
We hope that's what it is.
Erin (32:54):
Yeah.
Tanya (32:55):
and I'm speaking for everyone because obviously they
think that too, Yeah, so glad tohear that.
Just wanted to kind of, youknow, give you a chance.
'cause that's been, you know, alot of stuff going on.
So, you know, if that'ssomething, you know, that is,
you know, okay.
You can always, update us ifyou, if you would like to or
not.
Whatever's.
(33:16):
Okay.
Well, great.
we're so glad that you, aredoing okay and past that and
yeah, we are going to have someHalloween theme, October themed
things coming up.
I think Huey Halloween is in acouple weeks, right?
Mm-hmm.
Erin (33:32):
And it can be like, you're gonna be like, oh my God, that's
so dumb.
And then little Nikki.
And then Oh my tea.
Yeah.
Then we're gonna do outsiders,grownups too.
Billy Madison and I justpenciled in.
Perfect couple.
So we'll have to do that too.
Tanya (33:45):
Yes.
I will add that one in, butthat's great.
Well, thanks for listeningeveryone.
if you have anything that youwant us to know, or add in
about, any feature show ideas,anything we talked about.
well wishes of course.
we always love that.
just let us know any questions,anything we love to hear from
you.
We are on all major types ofsocial media, the wicked
(34:08):
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and YouTube as well, if you wantto see.
what we look like
Erin (34:14):
Well, it looks very tropical.
It looks perfect for this movie.
It looks like Hawaii.
Oh, it does?
Oh my gosh.
Tanya (34:20):
I didn't see, I just, you know, it cures, you know,
yesterday's lazy.
Today's crazy.
I really have been meaning toshift it over to fall, but maybe
I'll try and do that latertoday.
it does fit.
That's true.
So, let's do our outro.
okay.
Don't forget,
Erin (34:38):
stay wicked and keep your mind well.
All right, everyone.
Have a great week and we'll talkto you soon.
Bye.
Bye guys.
You are listening to WickedPsychotherapists, a podcast
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(00:31):
Hey guys, this is Tanya.
Hi, it's Erin and welcome toWicked Psychotherapist.
Tanya (00:36):
Yeah, today we are jumping back on the Adam Train,
Adam Sandler, and, getting backto one of his not very well
known movies, From 2011,although he is with Jennifer
Aniston.
so it's, just go with It, whichwas on Netflix for me.
(01:00):
and also I believe is availableon Prime to rent
Erin (01:03):
I didn't realize it was on Netflix.
I ended up renting in on Prime'cause I had no idea.
So I could have watched it forfree.
Tanya (01:12):
Well, I saw it there and started watching when I, came
back from being in Portugal wehad a VPN set to Portugal, and I
think there's other titlesavailable there, so I think it
was available there, but Ididn't see it here.
I don't know if maybe it wasonly available, so it, it may
not have been available in theUS or unless you have A-A-V-P-N
(01:33):
set right.
To somewhere outside of the us.
Okay.
But, It, it's, so I watched halfof it there in Portugal and then
I rented it too'cause I waslike, I can't find it here.
So, yeah, unless it said it wasleaving soon, I don't know.
Maybe it left But, yeah, it wasvery soon, whatever it is, it's
a remake.
of, cactus Flower from 1969, Andyes, I've never seen that.
(01:55):
I did not watch it to compareit, so I don't know.
If it's the same or Adam justadded his own flare because he
was a producer I think, but,what did you think of the movie
overall?
Erin (02:07):
there was parts I really liked, like I liked the kids.
I did like Jennifer, Aniston andAdam Sandler.
I did not like the cousin atall.
I wish he wasn't in the movie.
I think it kind of ruined mostof it for me.
Any scene that he was in I justthought he was really annoying.
it seems like most of the.
(02:27):
Characters.
what is his name?
Nick Schwartzen or somethinglike that.
He's, he always annoys me.
I don't know.
I think it's just very, maybe Idon't get that juvenile humor
It's just really dumb.
Tanya (02:39):
Yeah.
It was a little too over thetop.
And I mean that is kind of AdamSandler, but I think we like
Adam Sandler's brand of doingthat, like his older style.
Whereas I wasn't feeling it fromthe cousin character either.
but I did think it was the, youknow, Adam Sandler and Jennifer
Anderson do have some sort ofnice chemistry, I think
together.
You know, there is somethingthere.
(02:59):
I don't sense it's really Right.
But they have some good kind ofcomedic playoff, with each other
Yeah.
And the kids are cute.
it was kind of a, twisted,strange plot, but I think that's
probably, from the sixties theywere working with that, or just
wanted to make it kind ofquirky.
But yeah, it had its goodpoints, but it was definitely
not, at our top favorite forAdam movies.
Erin (03:22):
I liked, I think the last, I don't even know how long the
movie was.
I'd say like the last half of itI liked, I liked it.
I liked most of the time theywere in Hawaii.
I liked all of the stuff with,Dr.
Daniel and Catherine, theircommunication, their friendship,
even when they're workingtogether, like the quirkiness in
(03:43):
the office.
it just seemed genuine.
It seemed, like realconversations.
It's not like slapstick, likeyou could figure out, why they
might have a good friendship ora good relationship
Tanya (03:53):
Yeah.
And it was funny because at theend when they were, I know we're
jumping way ahead here, but Imean, at the end when
assumingly, you've all seen itif you're watching this, yeah.
At the end when they weretalking about, I think we're
safe there.
when they were talking about,her friend Devlin or whatever
played by Nicole Kidman.
but she's like, say what youlike about each other.
(04:16):
And it seemed almost like, likethey were not only as
characters, like kind of beinglike, oh yeah, I can see this
about you.
Like I really appreciate thesethings.
But I think there was a littlebit maybe of them as actors kind
of being like, I really likethat.
I wonder if that was sort ofimprovised.
I Sort of got that feeling, Idon't know.
just in a friendly way.
Yeah, it could be.
Erin (04:35):
'cause it did seem very genuine, you know, like, I
really like this about you Idon't know if that was the first
time they worked together itmight have been because it was
definitely years before themurder mystery.
But you can tell that.
they had really good workingchemistry, back then.
it was nice.
I liked that part where theywere looking at each other and
(04:56):
genuinely telling each other howthey felt.
you could tell it was deeperthan just a boss and an
employee.
Tanya (05:05):
Yeah.
they definitely had, you know,the girlfriend Palmer was
saying, oh, well you just, youseem to know so much about him.
And she was kind of realizing,yeah, I guess I do.
I know like that he needs his.
Cotton candy and peanut butter,jelly beans, separated into
Ziploc bags all these veryspecific details about him,
which I was kind of thinkingjust in my own, you know,
(05:28):
outside of the movie, I was justthinking like.
Seriously, Of course she's goingto, she supposedly has been
married to him and you've likebeen on two dates with this guy.
of course she knows a lot moreabout him.
Erin (05:40):
she's worked with him for, I don't know, 20 years or
something like that.
Tanya (05:44):
Yeah.
it's definitely they developed agood connection maybe without
realizing it.
And I think That's the wholepoint of the movie, just go with
it.
It's just kind of like, Hey,this actually is where it ended
up leading us and it was rightin front of us.
I definitely thought there weresome themes of.
not being aware of the peoplethat are around you or not
realizing how connected you areto people, in general, even at
(06:08):
work or in friendships.
Maybe not seeing your self worthin what you could offer in a
relationship.
I know Catherine, JenniferAniston's character seemed to
count herself out ofrelationships, or she was
selling herself short with thatkind of the gray soul patch guy
or whatever, and like, yeah,just, you know, that didn't
really seem to date too muchand.
(06:29):
I was like, oh, I have two kids.
Like, almost like it wasn't aselling point and like she was
kind of like, oh, nobody's gonnawant that kind of thing.
in her mind, you know?
And yeah.
and Daniel, Adam Sandler wasprobably still traumatized by
his first wife.
You know, just basically openlycheating on him Also making fun
of his sister, and just kind ofmocking him overall.
(06:52):
I do think there were definitelytwo people who were very much
more similar than, they realizedmore connected than they
realized and they kind of had togo through all these things To
figure it out.
I felt like it could have beenshorter.
a little more direct with someof these things.
I don't feel like it had to be.
As roundabout, I could have donewithout the scene with the
sheep, with the cousin.
(07:14):
I just didn't really like that.
I thought it was odd.
Erin (07:17):
Well, I think it was a weird way for the cousin and
Palmer to bond, you know,because it was like, okay,
they're having this dinnerbecause.
he's so gross and she's, youknow, like they're just trying
to figure out,'cause supposedlythey're all gonna be family and
then this sheep thing happensand then they come back all
(07:37):
drunk and happy and bonded.
So I think that's the roundaboutway of how can we make this
ridiculous thing so that the twoof them have this connection and
Not have them having arelationship or anything, but
just like this, oh, we had thisreally wacky shared experience
of, you know, he had to havethis, you know, give Heimlich
(07:59):
maneuver to the sheep and dah,dah, dah, dah, you know?
So, we're so bonded and we'retalking about marriage and I let
it slip that, you know, that,you know, you bought a
engagement ring and you know,so, or that you're looking at
engagement rings I think that'sprobably why it was there.
it wasn't really needed, likethe whole, again, I would be
really fine without the cousinor Palmer in the movie at all.
(08:21):
But
Tanya (08:23):
I guess they were kind of just props, essentially, like
prop characters to be there forthe main characters to get over
their obstacles but I justdidn't really enjoy the way the
characters were.
written It didn't really addmuch to it.
usually those kinds ofcharacters have to add to it.
But then again, I realize thisis a remake.
(08:44):
And it's just a silly film,
Erin (08:46):
I guess he does a couple remakes because didn't you say
that Mr.
Deeds was a remake too Mm-hmm.
so it's interesting.
Tanya (08:52):
yeah, I guess he likes, older movies, classics.
it's strange when I was thinkingabout the whole plot and the way
it was going and the characters,I was like, I could actually see
some of these characters in asixties movie.
I could see this kind of being alittle older and I think that's
maybe why it sometimes didn'tseem to fit, maybe he was trying
(09:13):
to capture the essence.
Of that or something in there.
Or maybe it just didn't reallywork.
it felt a little off.
I felt bad for the kids becausethey were essentially being used
and even though they negotiatedprices or whatever.
They're still kids and they'rehaving to pretend that this
person is their dad who theyknow pretty well.
Right.
But, the little boy starts tobreak down and cry.
(09:35):
Like, my dad doesn't spend timewith me.
And he's like, what was that?
you're ruining my chances withthis girl.
And it's like, this poor kid istrying to say something.
So I thought that was a little,traumatizing.
I realized it was going for thatcomedic effect, but I personally
just don't find things like thatfunny.
Right.
I don't know, I'm just kind oflike, Ugh, that didn't really
land well.
(09:55):
but then he, redeems himself,like he teaches him how to swim.
He does actually, seem to reallycare about them.
At a certain point when hestarts to realize like, maybe
Palmer is not his, someone he.
loves, which is not surprisingto me because I don't feel like
they spent that much timetogether I think he just maybe
saw it as like, oh, this is aperson that's sort of slightly
(10:18):
different than a person I wouldtry to trick and just have a one
eight stand with.
Yeah.
Erin (10:22):
he had the ring in the pocket when they met So she saw
him as not married and wasattracted to him.
So he felt like she wascompletely different, not
realizing that, it's stillsomeone that he hooked up with,
but maybe there's not really, aconnection.
he was able to see that, becausehe saw like, oh, wait a minute.
(10:43):
Something's different.
I'm not wearing my ring.
So there must be a trueconnection.
Tanya (10:47):
Mm-hmm.
Erin (10:47):
it probably was not realizing that if I did have the
ring, it would've been just likeevery other person.
She's just
Tanya (10:54):
Yeah, that's true.
And so maybe that was kind ofhim feeling like, oh, okay, if
that's my only criteria.
But he forgot to look at if theyactually have a connection.
And I don't know, Palmer seemedto be a character that was very
Annoyingly naive.
she just kind of boughteverything that was presented to
her and, you know, sort ofquestioned it, but not really,
(11:14):
and I don't know.
I just didn't really, that justseems so far gone after a while.
it's unrealistic.
It's weird.
but I think that it really.
dealt with themes of self-imageand how we handle Past traumas
and relationships, how we seeourselves after that.
the kids and how they feel withtheir dad.
(11:36):
forgetting to pick them up andnot spending time with them
Erin (11:39):
and I think that Made, Daniel realize oh, maybe I
shouldn't just be posing likethe time when they're all taking
pictures, at the golf course.
he is like, why can't we justhave actual fun instead of
taking pictures that we'rehaving fun?
And that's when he realizedmaybe we should do.
Something different.
So it's not just fake fun, we'reactually having experiences I
(12:01):
think part of him started torealize they're not just props,
they are humans and they've hadtrauma from being abandoned from
their father.
So I can't keep re-triggeringthem or re-traumatizing them.
Tanya (12:15):
Yeah.
for sure.
they were telling him so manytimes like our dad He was just
so focused on himself.
Which is a common theme with hischaracters.
they can be kind of selfish likein Big Daddy, and then they
redeem themselves and have a bigheart.
he tends to kind of have a lotof characters that he plays that
have those common.
Pattern.
Mm-hmm.
So he probably identifies withthat, Maybe that would be my
(12:37):
guess.
But, I do like how he did havesome people that he does cast a
lot.
Like Kevin Neland the guy withtoo much and a lot of, yeah.
Yeah.
Surgery couldn't, plasticsurgery,
Erin (12:48):
even drink.
Tanya (12:48):
And his laugh was so goofy.
And then, his wife was the firstfiance who traumatized him and
cheated on him, the openingscene, which I think is funny
that he put her there.
That I think speaks to theircomedy together.
They're good together.
I think it was odd that they allwent on a vacation together,
even though I know his quoteunquote son Michael, which is
(13:10):
Catherine's son, tricked, Palmerinto being like, oh, well he
promised he would take me toHawaii, and then he felt like he
had to do it.
And then, you know, his.
She felt like, oh, well I'mgonna be part of the family.
So, yeah, let's, let's talk itover with your, with your ex,
with your wife or your soon tobe ex-wife and was just being
friendly.
And then with the guy shesupposedly cheated with, that
(13:31):
was a weird thing.
Yeah.
I thought it was weird
Erin (13:33):
I guess that's all part of that I was gonna say, it's kind
of weird too, because theyweren't divorced and then
they're planning to get married,you know?
Or she thought they were gonnaget married, like at the very
end.
it was very dumb, Palmer onlywanted, yeah.
She's like, let's get marriedtomorrow.
Making herself feel like she's,you've been on three dates,
Palmer, you know the family.
Tanya (13:52):
she was kind of painted, very naive.
I think she was probably onlysupposed to be in her mid
twenties or something.
She was supposed to be youngerbut yeah, she all dancing.
I do think she was kind of like,yeah, listening to, she's like,
that's my jam.
it really is.
it's just odd.
And how she's like, oh, well youshould be able to tell us
anything to the kids.
(14:13):
And already kind of playing likea stepmom figure They're not
quite divorced.
it was just the whole old, like1960s movies of it all, I think.
I think that's really what itwas.
And they were just like, oh,let's just play it up.
That's what I think I haven'tseen the original, but I think
that's maybe what it was.
Yeah.
it was not as many people, as henormally would have, like
recurring characters.
It was Kevin Neland and hiswife.
(14:34):
I think those are prettyAnderson guess at the very
beginning,
Erin (14:37):
at the very beginning it was like the whole crew.
at the restaurant or whatever,when he still had the big nose
at the bar, He was just sittingthere.
Then he ended up going with thepretty girl it was like the
whole crew, a bunch of the guys.
Oh, the guy.
Oh, so they weren't in there.
Okay.
Yeah, the guy, the guy with theweird eye, you know, a few other
people that were in Mr.
Deeds and you know, so a lot ofthose people were there.
Tanya (15:01):
At the very beginning.
So they were kind of, they werejust very much, that was a part
where the kind of had stoppedfor me and I had to keep
reloading it.
There were certain parts I kindof missed, but I'm glad.
So he did include it in themovie?
Yeah.
So his signature elements werethere.
That's good.
I like how he had some of thevoices that, strained voice,
that, Sandler voice.
Right.
(15:21):
And he made some jokes, somefunny sarcastic jokes, and,
definitely, had some of theessence of Adam I keep thinking
of the part after the hulacontest and the coconut and they
beat Nicole Kidman and DaveMatthews.
Yeah.
and they, you know, kind of aresort of looking like they're
going to like kiss and, youknow, all this stuff and they're
(15:43):
kind of going back and forth andthey're having just really kind
of playful banter, but it's alittle awkward, like they're
both kind of shy, Yeah.
I sensed a little bit of, improvthere too.
I sensed they were just goingback and saying silly things.
I think that made the other onelaugh.
I think that shows theirchemistry too.
Yeah.
I thought that was another.
Pretty cool part of that.
Erin (16:04):
Yeah.
And I did like how, Catherinewas able to work through her
trauma of Devlin because thathad been something since
college, you know, that shehated this woman so much or you
know, and'cause she was such asnob, but they're able to
finally be, you know, like whenthey're at the bar at the very
end be like, you know.
(16:25):
I hate my husband, you know, andthey're just talking and then
finally saying you know, I'mdivorced and just be honest.
Because it always seemed likethere was a competition and they
never were truly honest.
so that was, you know, just evenlike talking about Catherine
before was like, Ugh, Devlin,this is my nemesis.
And trying to see her andautomatically feeling like she
had to one up her or be at thesame level as her in a sense.
(16:48):
Yeah.
But then it's like, oh, wait aminute.
we're both going through stuffthat we've been hiding and even
how devlin's like, oh, myhusband didn't invent the iPod.
Or whatever.
You know, it is like he just,
Tanya (16:59):
he likes, sued the Dodgers from a fly ball that hit
'em
Erin (17:02):
Yeah.
Tanya (17:03):
Yeah.
And she's like, and he's gay.
She just knew that so casually.
Erin (17:07):
look at him.
Tanya (17:08):
He's over there trying to flirt with sailors and, yeah.
Yeah, that was pretty funny.
and the fact that it's DaveMatthews, like, what a random
casting of Nicole Kidman andDave Matthews from Dave Matthews
Band.
If anybody doesn't know whatwe're talking about, Dave
Matthews Band is a band, theyhave a very particular, I don't
even know honestly what genrethey would be, but it's like jam
Erin (17:28):
jam, like, it's like jam, whatever.
Kind of like how, Phish andstuff.
Just kind of like, all right.
Just kind of, yeah.
I never really, I never reallyliked Dave Matthews, but,
there's one song that I'm like,ah, that's tolerable.
But yeah, I've never been a bigDave Matthews fan.
Tanya (17:42):
I did like some of their music in high school.
I'm not a huge fan.
I just thought it was reallyrandom.
I wonder why he was, I wonder ifAdam is friends with him or
something.
I don't know.
Strange, maybe.
I just thought it was random.
And I really liked that parttoo.
I agree with you.
With where they healed theirfriendship and were able to sort
of take off their masks.
we knew that Catherine wastrying to impress her and even
(18:04):
named poop after Devlin, becauseof just how much she, she
despised her, but also was kindof very insecure by her.
And then to see Devlin be like,you know, like I, my husband's
gay we're getting a divorce.
Like to see her kind of be like,mm-hmm.
Take off the mask too, wasreally, you know, that was, that
was really healing.
Erin (18:19):
yeah,
Tanya (18:20):
that would be nice to have that with some people, you
know, to be able to kind of feellike, oh, that would be cool.
I don't know if that justhappens in the movies, but Who
knows?
Right.
Erin (18:28):
Yeah.
Tanya (18:29):
But I thought that was to be able to have that chance of
Erin (18:31):
somebody that tortured you or you've to have that closure
too, because it's not likethey're gonna become best
friends.
It's just like, okay.
We both, Said our truth and justkind of, okay, we're okay now.
Tanya (18:45):
Yeah.
And I sensed when they werehugging and they were kind of
like, oh, we should have beendoing this from the beginning, I
sensed that they actually arekind of friends in real life
too, because they, they wereboth in in something, haven't
they?
Together?
I don't know.
I think they have, I don'tremember.
Nicole, Kim and JenniferAnderson.
I, I may be mixing up some oftheir shows'cause I know.
Jennifer Aniston was in themorning show and Nicole Kidman
(19:07):
was in like.
All the lies we tell orsomething, I think I always mix
some of those.
I think there was another showthat maybe they were in.
You guys can let us know.
I feel like they've workedtogether again, but maybe I
just, I could definitely imaginethat.
Erin (19:20):
I don't know.
I just watched the, recentlyjust watched the Perfect Couple
with Nicole Kidman.
That was pretty good.
That was on Netflix.
Tanya (19:27):
Yeah.
Oh, that was actually prettygood.
That was good.
That was very psychologically,that could be something
Erin (19:34):
we talk about sometime.
Tanya (19:36):
Yeah.
That might be something to addto the list for sure.
Because that really, stayed withme.
I was like, I will add it rightnow.
Erin (19:43):
Wow.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, let's do it.
But I can't think of anythingthat they have been in together
though.
Jennifer Aniston and NicoleKidman.
Tanya (19:53):
I could have imagined it could have been like the preview
for one of their shows was nextto another one of their shows.
I'd often do that.
And we'll mix it up.
that's the way my brain works.
it was a very kind of,convoluted plot, but it
definitely had its moments of,of charm with, with, Jennifer
Anderson, Adam Sandler, and thekids.
The kids are cute.
Erin (20:10):
definitely.
Tanya (20:11):
Yeah.
I liked the daughter, Maggie,how she was.
Like into acting and she likeoveract and she just seemed so
confident and sure of herself.
Good day governor.
Erin (20:22):
Yeah.
Tanya (20:22):
She was really into her British accent.
She was a cutie.
and Michael was kind of serious,but also his own quirky
character too.
I like that.
Erin (20:31):
I was thinking like, a little solemn too, kind of like,
you know.
Tanya (20:34):
That's a good way to describe him.
He kind of had a wise beyond hisyears kind of thing.
But then he was very much alittle kid.
it was an interesting combo.
Erin (20:42):
He's like, yes, well, I really wanna swim with the
dolphins.
and I liked when they were like,oh, well you don't know how to
swim.
Why would you pick Swim with aDolphins?
And he is.
Well, I didn't really think thatall the way through.
Tanya (20:53):
Yeah.
Like that's his little kid part.
That was cute.
Yeah.
It was a cute movie.
It was, probably not ourfavorite, but again, I think
that Jennifer Anderson and theAdam Sandler connection kept me
going in it, in the kids.
Erin (21:05):
I,
Tanya (21:06):
for that
Erin (21:06):
same here, I really liked almost every scene that the two
of them were together, and Iloved the kids.
the little girl was really funnytoo.
Tanya (21:12):
Yeah, I looked her up because I was like, oh, I wonder
what she's doing now, and Idon't, she's done some, a few
things since.
but she is like, like gorgeous,like just, I mean, not like she,
yeah.
She, you know, I could see,could see how she, she is, but
like, I, I think she's been insome other things.
I don't know if she's like kindof concentrating on other things
or I miss that she's been inanything recently, but maybe
(21:33):
she's kind of focusing on someother things, but she has, gone
on to do some other things.
the little boy I couldn't getmuch information on.
I love the choices he makes inactors.
I think he's very intentionalabout it And by that I mean Adam
'cause I think he was a directoror producer or something.
honestly, not sure I know thedifference.
he was something important inthe movie and it was a, a just
a, a nice little, a nice film towatch.
(21:55):
I think we probably wouldn'thave watched otherwise, or heard
of.
I feel like I have seen itbefore.
Erin (21:59):
I think I've seen it before.
I just don't remember.
You know, like when we werewatching Murder Mystery, I was
like, I know I've seen this, butI didn't remember how it ended,
I do remember the Hawaii theme,I just don't remember everything
else I could have blocked itout.
'cause I hated the cousin somuch.
maybe.
Tanya (22:15):
I really think that could have gone in a different
direction.
his character, like maybe theyneeded a distraction, but it
just could have gone a differentway.
I think Palmer was okay.
I think she was a little naive,but maybe that just kind of
worked.
But his character especially wasirksome
Erin (22:29):
I think it was just, It was like, all right, this is,
beyond annoying.
It was too over the top, It'slike, all right, we understand
what you're trying to do, butmaybe not so much.
Tanya (22:37):
yeah.
I just did not like the sheepscene at all.
It made me Kind of sick.
I understand they needed it, butI really just was like, Ugh, I
don't wanna see this.
even though I know it was a fakesheep, obviously, but No, thank
you.
I don't find animals, even ifit's obviously not real, I don't
find That funny.
I just don't like that.
anything else that we can thinkof that we didn't talk about
Erin (23:00):
I think a lot of the main things were being a single
mother, you know, like how younavigate that, like your
relationship with yourcoworkers.
Know your identities.
You know, like,'cause that'slike all everyone's identity
from like, you know, Daniel and,you know, being like, you know,
first he's rejected from hiswife.
He hears like the horriblethings that she's said, and then
(23:22):
his identity, because he'smourning not getting married.
And then he is like, oh, wait aminute, this is gonna work for
me.
his identity now is thisplayboy, single person to,
Figuring out maybe that's notwho I wanna be.
And Catherine, her identity aslike this assistant and single
mother, best friend probably tohim and they're all just trying
(23:45):
to figure out who they are.
Tanya (23:47):
Yeah.
for sure.
I think that's a good, good,good points to look at.
And I mean, it, it really, Ithink was just a very
interesting way to put it alltogether.
Adam was there.
Jennifer Anderson was there, thekids were there.
that's a bonus.
if you get a chance, I don'tthink it's on Netflix anymore,
so you might have to rent it onPrime.
(24:07):
Or maybe you have anotherstreaming service that has it,
but it's worth it.
I think it was only like threebucks to rent,
Erin (24:13):
It was very cheap.
Tanya (24:14):
Yeah.
Not too bad.
Want to ask a challengequestion?
Oh yeah.
Okay.
Michael, the little boy, hisdream was to swim with the
dolphins.
I know he didn't really plan out'cause he couldn't really swim,
but he still had the dream andhe was able to do it and he got
to do it.
And he was success.
He got to do it.
(24:34):
Yeah.
he was like standing up withthem and everything.
That was really great.
What would, if you could choosejust one thing that would be on
your bucket list what would beone thing you would want to do?
Well, I
Erin (24:47):
I think I'd really like to see puffins in like.
The wild, like, you know, sincewe're going like the animal
theme, like since he diddolphins, I think the first
thing that came to me would belike, I'd like to, you know,
I've never really seen puffins,I think are just like the cutest
birds, and either that or Idon't know.
I've always wanted to.
Go to like a elephant sanctuaryor something like that.
(25:10):
I think that would be kind ofcool.
there's one in Tennessee that'ssupposed to be humongous but you
have to be a volunteer andstuff.
So it's a pain in the neck totry to do it.
But I think that is'cause I'mjust thinking animals now
because of the dolphin thing.
Tanya (25:24):
I don't think that's stupid at all.
I think that's really cool.
that's a really cool thing.
I wouldn't have even thought ofthat, but that's a Really cool
thing that probably not a lot ofpeople get to see.
Yeah.
I actually like that you didthat animal themed.
I'm trying to think of somethinganimal themed because I don't
have an answer.
I asked the question and Ididn't have an answer.
I really don't know.
Right now, I am just coming offof a three week trip where I was
(25:47):
traveling on a motorcyclethroughout Europe and I just
came back yesterday.
So I am not with it too muchright now.
I am trying to, my brain is notreally working too well.
I'm also still, I think jetlagged, but,
Erin (26:01):
What would be an animal experience you'd want.
Tanya (26:04):
That's what I was thinking.
I was like, that's a really goodway to put that.
And so I'm really trying tothink of something because I
don't know what I would do.
Oh man, the puffins is reallycute.
you can come with me.
I don't know if there's, you cando
Erin (26:16):
puffins.
Tanya (26:18):
I would like to see the puffins, And the, elephant
sanctuary.
I think that's a really goodidea.
man, you had some good ones.
I'm trying to think of someanimals.
I don't know.
Um, maybe go see.
I'm thinking of some like, I'mlike, ooh, sharks, tigers, lion.
And I'm like, I'm scared todeath of all of those,
Erin (26:37):
whenever you see the people, in the shark, cage, it's
like, oh my gosh, I can'tbelieve they did that.
So crazy.
Tanya (26:43):
I would not, do it.
I would not do that.
And same with like a crocodile,like those crocodile cages.
That they have sometimes.
No way.
Wouldn't do it.
Erin (26:50):
That would be scary.
Or like how people go in boats,where hippos are.
No, thank you.
Tanya (26:57):
No, I'm scared to death of those.
I read some scary story aboutthat and I was like, they're
out.
There's really, I mean, I, Iguess I've kind of always, I
don't know, like pandas andkoala bears I guess would, would
be pretty nice to, to see, eventhough know that that would be
really nice.
Pandas are not the nicest, youknow, but, I know that's not
(27:18):
like a very original answer.
but it's, I think that thatwould be cute, you know, to kind
of be able to see them.
Erin (27:24):
Yeah, my dad went to a, my dad went to a koala sanctuary
in, I think it was in NewZealand when he was stationed in
Tonga for the Peace Corps.
he has the cutest picture of himholding a koala.
he said they were so soft, butit just seems like it'd be
really neat.
Tanya (27:42):
That is cute.
Yeah.
my nieces both studied abroad inAustralia and they were able to
visit some koala bears.
that's pretty cool.
And I think my sister did toowhen she visited.
so I just think that would becool.
my mom when I was younger, thisis.
Really odd, but she used to callme a qua bear So maybe that's
why I was thinking of it.
Oh, that's neat.
(28:03):
Maybe I gave good hugs and I wassoft.
I don't know.
Yeah.
So that is my challenge questionthat I did not think out very
well, but Erin had some greatanswers.
next time I will think it outbefore I kind of just think of
'em on the fly, I really shouldhave thought that, but that's
okay.
I mean, I think it worked out.
I think the puffins
Erin (28:21):
Yeah.
Tanya (28:21):
Yeah.
We got there.
I always puffins,
Erin (28:23):
puffins have always been my favorite.
I don't know, they're so cute.
Tanya (28:27):
They really are.
Yeah, they are.
They're very different too,right?
Like in terms of yeah, penguins,like are they different
behaviorally and stuff likethat.
Well, and they could be on rocks
Erin (28:35):
I mean, they like cold, like penguins and stuff, They
just seem really cute.
Tanya (28:39):
Cool.
I love that.
I really like that.
I need to learn some more aboutsome animals and be like, Ooh, I
wanna go see'em, because I'mjust, yeah.
I'm behind the times and that.
But yeah, so that is, that is astory of us.
I also, did want to, Close outthis episode and I know, Erin,
(29:00):
you had brought it before, ifyou don't wanna say this, we can
just, but you know, you hadtalked about how you were going
to have to be radioactive
Erin (29:10):
Oh yeah.
I never really gave anyexplanation, did I?
Gonna be radioactive.
I ended up.
Getting diagnosed with thyroidcancer a few months ago, back in
April or something.
Then I had a thyroidectomy inJune.
part of the treatment is I hadto take radioactive iodine, a
(29:31):
radiation pill that theyactually had to give to me in a
lead container.
The, A physicist and the doctor.
Gave it to me, and it wasinteresting.
After I swallowed the pill, theyput a geer counter on my neck
and then on my stomach.
So like, as soon as I swallowedit, I was already radioactive.
(29:51):
after that, I was, contained inmy room.
Not able to see the kids or myhusband or the animals for four
days straight.
So it was like, how to feed mein a, quick way.
after that I was able to be outof my room for six feet apart,
but at first just like an hourat a time and then longer.
(30:12):
it was, seven days of, strangealoneness.
I, did a lot of.
Watching tv, reading differentart.
So it was, definitely different.
It was a different experiencethan when I wa when I had chemo.
Because chemo I could have,everyone can come and hang out
with me and see me after while Iwas recovering.
But I was glad too,'cause I wasreally worried that I was going
(30:36):
to have really strange Sideeffects, thankfully just the
first day I woke up with a superhuge neck, and I guess that's
because it attaches to yourthyroid.
after that, I massaged it andput ice packs and it was fine
later that day or the next day.
I was super anxious about it.
I was like having more anxietythan I think I've ever had,
(30:56):
leading up to it.
that's a scary thing.
'cause I was like, how big isthe pill gonna be?
what's gonna happen?
Is all my hair gonna fall out?
So like, I was really worriedabout like, how is it gonna be
like, not seeing everybody, butwe managed with FaceTime the
kids would come to my window inthe bedroom and I'd open the
window and they'd stand six feetapart because the doctor said
(31:18):
it's kind of like a, x-ray.
So I'm still omitting six feetapart from wherever I was.
we still managed, it wasdifferent.
it definitely teaches you, okay,I can be alone this time.
I couldn't even leave my roomfor the first four days.
So at least after that I can gooutside.
Then I'm allowed to pet theanimals after day four.
But I just couldn't let themkiss me or lick me for a few
(31:40):
days because I guess animals area little bit different.
They said so they can be pet.
But, yeah.
So it's, yeah, it was just alittle, it was, Ooh, glad that
part's over
Tanya (31:51):
That was very, very difficult for you.
Erin (31:53):
Oh, and also, I was on this crazy diet beforehand for
like two weeks.
I couldn't have iodine, so wehad to make our own bread.
Todd had to make all the food.
it was a lot of work.
it was different.
Sounds like you don't realizehow much iodine, is in
everything, not just salt,because you can have non iodine
salt, but you can't have.
Iodine so that the radioactiveiodine attaches to the thyroid I
(32:17):
never knew anything about mythyroid before all this started,
Tanya (32:19):
yeah, I don't think a lot of people know that.
I don't think, you know, peoplerealize that that is a, a, a
thing, you know, that, that,yeah.
There can be a radioactive.
Pill.
to detect for that.
So yeah.
You have gone radioactive.
You can officially say that.
and came out on the other side,we are wishing that is,
(32:40):
positive.
And I think it is,
Erin (32:41):
from what I looked at, it looked like everything was fine.
I just don't know.
Officially, you know, but Idon't know.
I, from what I read, it lookedpositive.
it looks like it's all cancerfree, so that makes me happy.
Tanya (32:53):
We hope that's what it is.
Erin (32:54):
Yeah.
Tanya (32:55):
and I'm speaking for everyone because obviously they
think that too, Yeah, so glad tohear that.
Just wanted to kind of, youknow, give you a chance.
'cause that's been, you know, alot of stuff going on.
So, you know, if that'ssomething, you know, that is,
you know, okay.
You can always, update us ifyou, if you would like to or
not.
Whatever's.
(33:16):
Okay.
Well, great.
we're so glad that you, aredoing okay and past that and
yeah, we are going to have someHalloween theme, October themed
things coming up.
I think Huey Halloween is in acouple weeks, right?
Mm-hmm.
Erin (33:32):
And it can be like, you're gonna be like, oh my God, that's
so dumb.
And then little Nikki.
And then Oh my tea.
Yeah.
Then we're gonna do outsiders,grownups too.
Billy Madison and I justpenciled in.
Perfect couple.
So we'll have to do that too.
Tanya (33:45):
Yes.
I will add that one in, butthat's great.
Well, thanks for listeningeveryone.
if you have anything that youwant us to know, or add in
about, any feature show ideas,anything we talked about.
well wishes of course.
we always love that.
just let us know any questions,anything we love to hear from
you.
We are on all major types ofsocial media, the wicked
(34:08):
psychotherapists.
and YouTube as well, if you wantto see.
what we look like
Erin (34:14):
Well, it looks very tropical.
It looks perfect for this movie.
It looks like Hawaii.
Oh, it does?
Oh my gosh.
Tanya (34:20):
I didn't see, I just, you know, it cures, you know,
yesterday's lazy.
Today's crazy.
I really have been meaning toshift it over to fall, but maybe
I'll try and do that latertoday.
it does fit.
That's true.
So, let's do our outro.
okay.
Don't forget,
Erin (34:38):
stay wicked and keep your mind well.
All right, everyone.
Have a great week and we'll talkto you soon.
Bye.
Bye guys.
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the biggest stories in news, politics and current events with intelligence and humor. From the border crisis, to the madness of cancel culture and far-left missteps, Clay and Buck guide listeners through the latest headlines and hot topics with fun and entertaining conversations and opinions.