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Is Ferris Bueller the fun friend—or the problem?
In this week’s episode, Tanya and Erin dive deep into Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, breaking down the psychology behind Ferris’s charm, Cameron’s quiet crisis, and the sibling rivalry with Jeanie.
Through the lens of mental health and therapy, we unpack themes of narcissism, family dysfunction, emotional burnout, and the longing for autonomy. Whether you loved Ferris—or secretly sided with Jeanie—you’ll see this 80s classic in a whole new way.
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(00:08):
You are listening to WickedPsychotherapists, a podcast
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Tanya (00:31):
Hey guys, it's Tanya.
Erin (00:33):
Hi, it's Erin and welcome to Wicked Psychotherapists.
Tanya (00:36):
Yeah, so today we are going to be talking about our
favorite decade, the eighties,well, a movie in our favorite
decade, the eighties.
and we're gonna be going back toFerris Bueller's Day off the
awesome cult classic with,Matthew Broderick, Jennifer
Gray.
(00:57):
Lots of other people we see inthere that I forgot about.
but this is a really great,classic, you know, adolescent
story.
It's also got a lot of mentalhealth themes that we're gonna,
you know, kind of poke into alittle bit.
I did want to, we always take alook at some of the movies that
we've seen.
(01:17):
Maybe a long time ago.
And the retrospect of kind oflike, okay, now we're looking at
them.
What do we think, what'sdifferent?
And I certainly feltdifferently.
I did really like the movie,when I was younger, but I found
myself getting annoyed atcertain points With this movie.
Way more so than when I wasyounger and kind of like over
analyzing it.
(01:38):
but did you find that as well,like that there was kind of some
points that were really kind of,I don't know, just maybe graded
on you or, or just like, ugh.
Yeah,
Erin (01:50):
because when, especially when I first watched it or even
watching it through high schooland everything, you'd think.
Ferris wheeler's kind of cool.
I do remember feeling bad forCameron, but rewatching it now.
I definitely felt, I had adifferent feeling about Ferris
throughout the movie and itwasn't always in his favor.
Tanya (02:12):
Yeah, right.
He's, yeah, he ki i, I mean, theopening scene you see him
plotting to be sick, which isjust so.
He is 17, 18, whatever he is,you know, doesn't want to go to
school.
But he's very manipulative.
And you know What kid probablyhasn't tried to do that, but
it's his parents and therelationship he has with his
parents, that really aggravatesme, where they're like, oh my
(02:36):
God, poor Ferris.
Like he's just this great goldenboy and he's just got them
fooled.
His sister Jeanie or JenniferGray is just so pissed off.
She's so angry because she knowswhat he's up to.
She knows he's being connivingand
Erin (02:51):
mm-hmm.
Tanya (02:52):
And he is always like that.
they're just, they treat Jeanielike crap.
Like the, he's like this goldenchild and they're like, oh, feel
better when he's just liketalking like a baby.
I was like, oh, I forgot aboutthat, that he's.
she seems like she's just kindof, angry but really she's got
something to be angry about,
Erin (03:10):
right?
Tanya (03:12):
Like it's, you know, she, she definitely kind of gets put
aside and Ferris gets, gets, youknow, elevated to Golden boy
status He's over here connivingand tricking his parents.
And they don't even know him.
They don't know who he is.
They think he's like this, likeangel,
Erin (03:27):
yeah, they, and it seems like they villainize the sister
or just don't realize that she'sactually behaving or she's the
one going to school and tryingto get good grades.
Tanya (03:40):
Yeah.
It's really, that was the firstpoint that I was like, oh, I
forgot about that.
I didn't really remember that.
But we kind of see Ferris is, Iguess we could say a
manipulative person, a charmingperson, which is probably on par
for, being around that age tokind of get what you want,
right?
Yeah.
and then he sets off to.
(04:01):
Make these elaborate plans.
we get a look around his roomand I have to admit, I was like,
this kid is in this reallywealthy house.
He's got anything and everythingin his room, especially for the
eighties.
Yeah.
You know, like it's very, verywealthy.
He's got this huge stereosystem, which I forgot about
stereos.
but yeah, he, I mean he is gotlike.
(04:22):
He's got everything.
He's got everything that youneed.
He just seems like a veryprivileged kid.
You know?
Like he's kind of, and he isjust like, oh, school is the
worst thing.
That's the worst thing for him.
And, but that's just kind of my,my perspective as, as someone
looking at, you know, like, youknow, kind of, I, I never really
could relate to those issues.
(04:43):
'cause I was like, that's not,that's not, it could be worse,
you know?
Mm-hmm.
And yeah, he, he tries to ropein.
Cameron his best friend who's,who's obviously very sick, he's
got a lot of, a lot ofdepression issues with his
family.
He internalizes them and getssick a lot and is really just
trying to manipulate him to belike, Hey, come on over here.
(05:03):
Let's do something to buck upman up and take some Pepto bmo,
you know, kind of thing.
And Cameron really seems to havea lot going on and.
On, on the one side, Ferrisseems to be like, oh, I really
want to cheer him up.
But he is also just trying to,you know, have a buddy to Go do
something with.
And to use his card.
(05:23):
Well, I
Erin (05:24):
and to use his car, because Ferris mentions a few
times I wanted a car, but I gota computer.
Tanya (05:30):
Yeah.
Erin (05:30):
So it's like his sister has a car, but you know, he
doesn't, well, it seems like shedoes, she just drives that
little white thing around.
Tanya (05:37):
which is kind of strange because if the parents do kind
of vilify.
Jeanie, but they, theyrecognized that she was
responsible enough for the carand he wasn't.
And he seems to be older thanher.
He's a senior and she's in highschool with him, so I'm guessing
she is like a junior or asophomore in high school.
(05:58):
But yeah, which is kind of,maybe, maybe they're, I don't
know, maybe they're just annoyedwith her on that day.
I don't know.
But Also, it's a movie, so
Erin (06:07):
we don't know everything.
It's not real life, it's justone, it's a movie and it's one
day in their life.
Yeah.
Tanya (06:12):
Right.
Yeah.
But it really, I think Ferrisjust comes off as someone who,
really wants to capture theselast moments in his senior year.
Of just like, you know, he'stalking about, you know, we're
going into adulthood and youknow, life moves by pretty fast.
If you don't stop and lookaround you could miss it, He has
this really kind of coolattitude about mindfulness and
being present, which issomething we tout and, and
(06:34):
therapy.
Mm-hmm.
A lot, you know, kind of ifyou're too anxious, maybe
peeping into the future too muchor thinking about the future or
the past, maybe mindfulnessexercises, kind of enjoying
what's around you, engaging inwhat's around you.
he's got that down.
I mean, he definitely is prettymindful, I think.
So that's a good point.
Erin (06:54):
mm-hmm.
Tanya (06:56):
what did you think of the plot to get Sloan out of school?
It just seems so overlycomplicated.
Erin (07:02):
Well, and that's where I feel like there's the
manipulation with Ferris again,with poor Cameron like
manipulating Cameron, knowingthat Cameron has like probably
low self-esteem, depression, andeasily manipulated that Sloane
already knew the plan beforeCameron was even part of it
(07:25):
because as soon as like she.
Got the phone, the teacher gotthe phone call and the nurse
comes in, Sloan's putting on herfringe jacket, you know, just
to, you know, to get ready.
So it seemed kind of elaborateand just, I mean, yeah, I mean,
I could, I could understandlike, okay, we're gonna have her
part of it.
But it did seem kind of sillyand dumb, but it also, it did
(07:52):
feel like.
Ferris manipulated Cameron to doit because they needed,
obviously they needed his car,his dad's car to make it all
work.
Okay, I wanna wake up Cameronand get him out of bed, but we
need your fancy car becausehe'll never be believable if we
bring, you know, if you're oldBMW won't work.
We have to have the Ferrari.
Tanya (08:13):
Yeah.
You know, so it's a real adult'scar kind of thing.
Erin (08:16):
Yeah.
Tanya (08:17):
it, it really is.
It's so, it's got that eightieshijinks like, I mean, John
Hughes, direction in there whereit really, just works out,
right.
He has Cameron call and then hepurposefully Ferris will call on
the other line to be like, oh,it's not me.
Erin (08:33):
Right.
Tanya (08:35):
And you know, the principal's already called.
Who he thinks is Ferris Buellerplaying Sloan dad, like all
these bad names and everything.
And, he's kind of gottabacktrack and then he feels
like, oh my gosh, I just calledthis guy.
All these things.
it's just so eighties, likecheesy like that that just, I,
that would not work now.
I mean, because of course peoplecould like, Voice changers, you
(08:56):
know, just calling up the, theparents, texting the parents,
you know?
Mm-hmm.
Like, it really, it would notwork.
Right.
Erin (09:02):
Plus everything has caller ID now,
Tanya (09:04):
Yeah.
Erin (09:04):
Unless you like star 69 or something where you're just
like, all right, six, nine to
Tanya (09:09):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It still, that still works, Ibelieve, but Yeah, there,
there's so, there's so much, Imean, technology now that I, I
just don't think this would be,this wouldn't fly nowadays.
I was just thinking like, wow,that they have all these, these,
you know, for that time, 1986,like high tech answering
machines with, the tape messagesthat Yeah, it just, yeah, the
(09:32):
tape.
Oh my gosh.
The tape.
Yeah.
It was, and, and you know, the,you mentioned the fringe jacket.
Yeah.
That was so eighties.
It was the, the white leatherlike fringe jacket.
Yeah.
It was just like, oh my gosh.
I remember that only went right
Erin (09:46):
up to your pants.
Like it really didn't probablymake you warm at all, like if
you needed it.
Yeah.
Tanya (09:50):
Yeah.
It was, definitely a lot of thateighties stuff going on.
and no cell phones, you know, sothey had to do it kind of old
school and set up all these kindof like home alone esque.
Erin (10:03):
Which is interesting'cause he, I think, didn't he direct
home alone too?
So maybe, yeah, he uses a lot ofhis same things in all of his
movies.
The car, you know, the stand infront of the car, like they do
in, what was it, 16 candles orsomething,
Tanya (10:17):
think John Hughes has a lot about adolescents that maybe
he got stuck in or he just had alot of feelings about, because
that seems to be his niche, likein different movies.
Yeah.
He really focuses on fooling theadults and being like a teenager
and, having hijinks and really,you know, kind of cheesy stuff
in a good way.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, very positively, Yeah.
(10:39):
And then they get SLO out andthe principal is talking to her
trying to make some poetic typeof sentiment because he believes
that her grandmother died.
And she's just like, you're avery kind man thinking like, oh
my God, she sound like an idiot.
Yeah.
And then they kiss and he'slike, that's how it is in their
family.
Huh?
Like, that's which I would thinkhe would be like, all right.
(11:01):
That's weird.
Ferris wait.
Yeah.
You would think like, he'd
Erin (11:04):
be like, all right, this is, I'm being had.
Yeah.
But, but I was thinking herfamily must be super wealthy and
maybe they give money to theschool or something.
Like, why would he be sointimidated?
By her dad.
not only did he, you know,because he said stupid stuff on
the phone, but it seemed like hewas very like, oh my gosh, I
(11:25):
gotta make this right.
You know, this is, it's reallyhim.
Yeah.
Tanya (11:28):
yeah, and I think he probably, that's probably why he
didn't go near him, you know, hekind of stayed on the steps and
everything, which of course isthe perfect plan because
Cameron's in the back hidingfrom, from all of it.
And Ferris just has likesunglasses on and a hat come
Yeah.
Looks like Inspector Gadget.
Oh my gosh.
Erin (11:47):
That's funny.
He does.
Didn't he play Inspector Gadget?
Tanya (11:50):
He did.
Oh, that's so funny.
Erin (11:52):
That is so funny because that his outfit in that movie
with the trench coat in the hat,he looks just like Inspector
Gadget.
That's so funny.
That's an awesome
Tanya (12:02):
connection there.
That's funny.
I.
That's a good connection.
Yeah.
Oh, so I wonder if maybe, maybethere was some thought like, ah,
in that scene he kind of, hekinda looks like Inspector
Gadget.
Yeah.
And years later
Erin (12:14):
it's like, Hey,
Tanya (12:14):
it.
Erin (12:14):
Like someone would be like, all right, I've always
liked Inspector Gadget and
Tanya (12:17):
Oh, that's funny.
I didn't even think of that.
now
Erin (12:19):
I kind
Tanya (12:19):
yeah, there's lots of little, I think fun things about
this movie that are just soeighties.
It brings you back to if youwere in school in the eighties.
Um, I was more in the nineties,like high school.
Oh, I was in high school in thenineties.
Yeah.
But, uh.
It, it just was, it just waskind of funny to see this kind
of old school eighties prankbeing pulled over on these dumb
(12:40):
adults.
and the dippy secretary,everything.
And so then they go off on theiradventure.
They go to Chicago becausethey're in some part of Illinois
or maybe they're in Chicagoitself.
And, yeah, they start to.
You know, Ferris wants to findthem places where they can have
like the ultimate experience ofjust like going to dinner at a
fancy restaurant, which is justso again, so unbelievable.
(13:03):
Yeah.
How they're able to get in, and,and just kind of trick him and,
just ridiculousness.
the hostess, the man who playsthe hostess, he is really, he is
so snotty.
He is just like, Ugh, no, youare the, the.
Hot, the sausage king of, ofChicago, you know, and he just,
(13:24):
I don't know.
He's, he's just so, so snooty,stereotypically like snooty
restaurant.
Mm-hmm.
And then, you know, along theway, I think Ferris is really
trying to be like, let's makethe best of this.
Let's live in the moment.
Let's have these adventures iskind of stuck in his head.
He's really, he is got a lot ofdepression.
It sounds like.
He's got a lot of family stuffthat.
(13:46):
Goes on, you know?
His parents don't like eachother.
His father likes the car morethan him, or his mom doesn't
seem like they talk to him.
Erin (13:53):
Mm-hmm.
Tanya (13:54):
he's sick a lot, probably because he is so stressed out.
he seems like a very sensitiveperson and he lives in a very
dysfunctional family.
And who knows if there'spossibly some Abuse.
It's not stated, but he doesseem to be very.
Afraid of his dad.
Erin (14:07):
And the family, like if you look at the house, I mean
the house is crazy, you know,like it just like he's family is
probably very, very wealthy andthat they're just leaving like
he's home alone for, you know,however long.
'cause they're both on differentexcursions or different trips
even, you know, it just seemslike Cameron is just, yeah, not
(14:30):
very.
There's not a lot of, I don'tknow, I wanna say love, but
like, or affection probably fromeither parent for him.
Yeah.
So maybe that's also why he isreally drawn to his friendship
with Ferris, because Ferris,yeah, he, Ferris is very
selfish, but he still is showingsome attention to Cameron and
(14:53):
they've known each other for solong.
So there could be that comforttoo.
Tanya (14:58):
Yeah, and I think, you know, I kind of wonder, and this
is just, kind of deep divinginto the psychology of their
friendship.
I wonder, and I know it's amovie, but you know, this is
what we do.
I kind of wonder if maybe theywere, you know, when you become
friends at like five, it'sbecause you both like the same
toy or something, or the samecolor, right?
Yeah.
There's nothing really to,you're in
Erin (15:17):
the same classroom You're in the
Tanya (15:18):
same class.
Yeah.
You, you kind of, Hey, you sitright behind me.
If there's nothing, no bigconnection, but.
I wonder if Ferris is kind ofthe person who will push Cameron
out and will kind of be like,come on, come on.
Which, which is kind of more toFerris's benefit.
Mm-hmm.
But I think that does getCameron out of his kind of like,
like sad world sort of the wayhe's internalized all this.
(15:42):
And Ferris is just kind of like,I just want to have fun.
And he doesn't really thinkabout consequences for people,
but he's very much.
He's kind of self-absorbed, buthe's also very much like, hey, a
good example of how to, how tojust live in the moment.
How to, how to just be so there,there may be kind of, they, they
kind of bring out some traits ineach other.
(16:02):
Because maybe some introversionor introspection from Cameron.
Erin (16:07):
Yeah.
And Cameron might also bringthat to Ferris too, on days that
we didn't see, you know, like,so he might help calm him and be
like, Hey look.
Maybe you shouldn't do thisreally risky thing or, you know,
not everything is, you know, doyou don't need all the instant
gratification for everything?
Let's slow down.
Tanya (16:25):
yeah.
And so I think that that's kindof interesting.
But then there is a pointtowards the end where Ferris
does, he's kind of pondering,you know, he is kind of breaking
the fourth wall, talking to thecamera.
He, which he does at a couplepoints.
He is like, oh, you know, I, Idon't really know what's, you
know, Cameron and I willprobably go to different schools
and maybe this is it.
(16:46):
You know, like, I don't knowthat we're really gonna be
friends and, or as close becausehe, and I think that's another
motivation for this, this time.
Mm-hmm.
These memories, right?
Yeah.
I also think Ferris is kind ofself-aware in that and being
like, Hey friends, drift apart.
Not like he's saying he wantsto, but just like we probably
(17:07):
will go to different colleges,we'll meet different people and
do different things and we won'tbe as close as we were.
And the same with maybe Sloanthe Girlfriend who's a year
behind them.
And so I think there is thisfeeling of like, let's put a
stamp on this because this isspecial.
You know, so you could kind ofsee that in there.
I really liked the scenes inChicago.
(17:28):
This was, somebody had writtensome article, I don't know where
it was from, I'm sorry.
And maybe it was a couple ofarticles that said, this was
John Hughes, like love letter toChicago, because he got to.
Display, you know, all the bigsites.
The Reley field and the museum.
Erin (17:44):
the Sears Tower or whatever it, the Sears
Tanya (17:46):
Tower.
Yeah.
And they were like looking downon that and then, the parade,
which is, I don't know thesignificance of that parade.
I feel there was somesignificance, like that's a
parade that they have orsomething.
Erin (17:57):
was like either a German or a Polish American,
Tanya (17:59):
Like cultural kinda thing that they maybe have.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I, it, it sounds, you know,of course Pharisee, he ends up
jumping on a float and charminghis way to being the, the center
of that, which is, is fun.
I think they all have funtogether and it's like an
experience that's a memory, youknow, he's really good at
creating memories and being,being big in that.
(18:23):
Even though he may be kind ofself-serving, he definitely kind
of promotes that.
He kind of moves that along, Ithink, in those, and with Sloan
and, and Cameron,
Erin (18:31):
Yeah.
'cause people are drawn to him.
I kept hovering like with like,okay, is he just a teenager?
Is he selfish?
Does he have narcissistictraits?
Is he a good friend?
Is he a bad friend?
Why is everyone drawn to him?
Like even like when he is on thefloat, when he is doing the
twist in shout, like the whole,you know, it's just so
ridiculous that everybody in theworld is just like dancing to it
(18:53):
and singing to it becausethey're just drawn, you know?
Well, it's a catchy song, butit's also, they're drawn to him.
Like his energy.
And so what is his, you know,what makes him so charismatic
and what makes, you know, what,what is it about him that people
are drawn to for good and bad?
Because at school they're like,some people wanna cheat off of
stuff he has, or some peoplewanna help him, or they're just
(19:14):
drawn and like all the flowersand stuff and the Save Ferris on
the water tower, and.
It's like people are just reallydrawn to him for some reason.
Tanya (19:22):
I think it's his charisma and the reason why the principal
and his sister don't like him.
with his sister, it's a littledifferent because of that
dynamic, The way the parentstreat her.
the principal gets so aggravatedby him because.
He doesn't follow the rules.
He'll do what feels good, buthe's not necessarily trying to
harm people.
He is doing something that a lotof people want to do.
Erin (19:42):
Right.
Tanya (19:43):
it kind of sparks to other people who are not, you
know, Jealous and wanna kind ofsuppress that and maybe
miserable there.
it's very attractive because Ithink a lot of people are
attracted to that.
Yeah.
They want people around who cankind of enjoy the moment.
'cause then it helps them to bein the moment.
Erin (20:02):
yeah, I think he is that just made me think of being in
the moment and being attractedto that is when Jeanie was in
the police station and she'ssitting next to Charlie Sheen
Tanya (20:12):
who just showed up for work.
They didn't, no makeup needed.
Erin (20:15):
like, okay, I really was high.
No, but it's, you know, likeshe's just so disgusted by him
at first, you know, he's sogross.
He's dirty.
just very judgemental.
But then they start talking andhe has some really valid points.
talking to her about a differentperspective and different
things, and then by the endthey're full on, making out,
(20:36):
because she's realizing maybethere is an attraction to the
person that's, going against thegrain.
Tanya (20:42):
Yeah.
it kind of appeals to her.
it's something that she hasdifficulty with.
She suppresses it and she getsangry that Ferris can just
flaunt it and be everyone'sfavorite.
And everyone loves him in thewhole school wants to save him.
It just blows up into this.
Erin (20:57):
Yeah.
Tanya (20:58):
Like, oh my gosh, he's gonna need a kidney.
And, and you know, it's even atWrigley Field where they're at,
like, say Ferris.
It's just spread so far.
It's right.
It's absurd.
Um.
Which is, kind of funny how Ithink once Jeanie is able to
confront and kind of say,'causehe is like, what do you care if
your brother gets attention andshe's kind of thinking about it,
(21:19):
maybe like, yeah, what, what doI care?
You know, maybe I can just kindof focus on myself.
This is kind of wasted energy.
And like, look, there's this guyright in front of me who maybe
she finds a attract.
Erin (21:30):
Why are you so focused on him getting the attention?
Then maybe you get a opportunityto do different things, or you
can get attention in differentways.
If he wants to be the goo googaga baby to the parents and get
away like that, she could showthat she's mature and she's not
gonna mess things up, or, youknow, just live.
Tanya (21:51):
Yeah.
She can just kind of do her ownthing, and she doesn't have to
worry about that.
And it seems like she reallykind of, so something kind of
shifts in her perspectivebecause at the end she could
have totally, you know, fareswhen he is trying to get back
and be back in bed.
He's running through theneighborhood and he gets locked
out of the back door.
the principal thinks he got him,principal Rooney or whatever,
(22:12):
thinks he got him.
Jeanie opens up the door and islike, oh, you've wandered off.
We've been worried sick, youknow, and kind of covers for him
It was kind of like, Hey, maybethis could actually be something
that, you know, we could be kindof friendly towards each other.
and this could be a decentsibling relationship and I don't
have to carry this kind ofbitterness with me.
Erin (22:35):
Mm-hmm.
Tanya (22:35):
you know, and maybe that would kind of change the
dynamic.
It does seem like he's verylike, oh my gosh.
Wow.
She's
Erin (22:41):
Yeah.
Why is she doing that?
Yeah, it's.
Shocking.
Tanya (22:44):
Yeah.
And then, because I think,Jeanie's more upset that she
finds the wallet and sherealizes that the principal had
broken into the house And gottenher kind of, you know, dragged
down to the
Erin (22:55):
Yeah.
So somebody really, and thenalso it's like proof that she
wasn't making it up.
That she wasn't crazy, shewasn't doing a false statement,
you know, she knew somebodybroke into the house.
I mean, she had kicked him inthe nose.
But now she's like, look, I haveyour wallet.
Tanya (23:11):
guess it's just so crazy to me because when that scene
happens, I'm like, how would younot go to your parents and be
like, look, his wallet was, lookat him.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And like I, I know that's not asfunny and I know that doesn't
like support it, but I'm justlike, now we would, we wouldn't
even be like our principal waslike leering around.
Yeah.
What a creep.
Yeah.
He just like breaks in and like,or just walks in and.
(23:32):
Yeah.
but I, I did really like.
Jeannie, during that time when,when the principal does break in
and she's on the intercom andshe's like, I just want you to
know I have, I have my parents'gun and a raging case of, of
herpes.
It's just like, do not attack
Erin (23:48):
Yeah.
Tanya (23:50):
But yeah, her character becomes kind of more lovable
mm-hmm.
towards the end.
Like you can see her, you cankind of understand that.
And it's so funny that it'sCharlie Sheen that helps her to
realize that.
Erin (24:00):
Yeah.
And i's funny because in that,even then, he's probably like
all of like, maybe, I don't knowif it was before some of his
other movies, but he looks a lotolder than whatever he's
supposed to be.
Like, if he's supposed to belike 17 or 18 he looks.
'cause he probably really was alittle weathered.
Tanya (24:17):
He definitely looks like in his twenties at least, But
yeah, he looks rough for sure.
And again, maybe that was, Idon't know if that was makeup
Erin (24:25):
it could have been.
I mean, maybe he was straightand narrow then.
Tanya (24:27):
I doubt it, but I don't know.
I think he showed up to worklike that.
They were like, yeah, I think sotoo.
Erin (24:31):
right, I'm a little hungover.
Tanya (24:33):
they just went with it.
They were like, yep.
The attire, the hair, the face,everything.
Let's keep it ready.
Yeah.
this is just an endearingclassic.
This is, I think this is namedlike one of the top something
classic movies for like teens orsomething.
Like adolescence.
By some list.
it is recognized as a, yeah.
(24:54):
You know,
Erin (24:55):
pretty classic
Tanya (24:56):
movie in that regard.
Erin (24:57):
Yeah, I know it came out when I,'cause I am a little
older than you.
It came out when I was in middleschool and I think I probably
first watched it in middleschool, just a little bit after.
'cause you know, Blockbuster,you could still see it within
the first few months So a lot ofus saw Blockbuster current
movies.
Yep.
Blockbuster.
Tanya (25:17):
We had to wait.
We had to wait.
Younguns.
Okay.
We had to wait.
We didn't get it.
Erin (25:21):
We didn't get it the same week, but we did have to, we, we
could still get it within thesame year, like a few, several
months.
Tanya (25:27):
Yeah.
It's still okay.
It still hits me even now when amovie comes out in the theaters
and like you can.
Rent it off of Amazon Prime.
Yeah, like a week later.
I'm still like gobsmacked aboutthat.
Yeah.
I'm just like, why?
Sometimes you can even do
Erin (25:43):
it, sometimes you can even rent it while it's still in the
theater.
Tanya (25:46):
Really?
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, you had to pay a
Erin (25:48):
lot more.
But, so there are sometimes thatthey do that.
Tanya (25:53):
So it's kind of like, I mean, I think movie theaters are
just not, like they used to justbe the sole point for movies
coming out.
Right.
And like new stuff coming out.
But now it's just like the poweris taken away by a lot of these
streaming services.
Yeah.
Erin (26:05):
and people like comfort.
They wanna, like, a lot ofpeople don't wanna, even though
they're like, okay, we have thereclining chairs in the movie
theater.
You get to choose your own seatif you want.
They're trying to make it a lotmore appealing.
But I think some people arelike.
Okay.
That, or sit on my couch andfall asleep.
While I'm watching the movie.
Tanya (26:24):
And I can also like stop it and go to the bathroom
instead of like running out andwondering if I'm gonna miss
something.
Erin (26:31):
Get everyone mad.
Tanya (26:32):
Yeah, I remember that like blockbuster.
Waiting until it was on tv, youknow, like that type of thing.
Actually, I remember waitingtill it was on TV and then
Blockbuster, and then even whenyou could get Netflix, like the
DVDs you could mail in.
Erin (26:46):
Oh yeah.
And mail
Tanya (26:47):
out.
I thought oh my gosh, that's soconvenient.
Erin (26:50):
Yeah.
Tanya (26:50):
And now I just think of like the streaming services we
have and like what is the futuregonna be?
Erin (26:55):
I don't know.
It's just, yeah, there's alwaysso much.
okay, let me see what I have.
I don't have enough to watch.
Tanya (27:02):
And there's literally, so much.
Erin (27:03):
last night I was like, okay, where can I find Ferris
Bueller?
Because I, I was like, I have torewatch this.
'cause I'm like, I've watched ita lot, but I'm like, I need to
re-see it.
So I just was like, I have like,what is that?
Paramount?
Paramount or whatever withAmazon.
So I watch, I was like, okay,it's free.
Just had to watch a couple ads.
But even that we're soconditioned, like ads.
(27:24):
I don't wanna watch ads, butit's like, yeah, it's, it's like
one minute and then you watchthe movie.
No big deal.
Tanya (27:32):
Yeah.
And that can be a nice.
Like built-in bathroom break orsomething.
Make your popcorn, make
Erin (27:37):
your popcorn time or something.
I don't,
Tanya (27:39):
I don't mind ads.
I'm not a big, like, I mean, if,if, if they are coming in for
like three minutes at a timeevery 10 minutes Yeah.
I don't, I don't love that.
But I don't mind ads if they'rejust kind of brief and they put
'em in here and there.
Yeah.
Because I'm like, I, I kind ofneed those breaks.
Erin (27:56):
those ads, I mean, they're usually.
What is it usually like ahundred, 104 a minute and 45
seconds or something like that.
It's usually some stupid number.
Yeah.
And yeah, it's pretty quick.
Tanya (28:07):
Yeah.
I really think, in continuing onwith the movie, with the ending
with Cameron, where Cameron justlets out, how frustrated he is
that his dad, loves this car,pays more attention to his car.
Than he does to his own son.
and he kind of kicks the car.
Then it ends
Erin (28:23):
up
Tanya (28:24):
flying out the window.
Yeah.
down below because they, theylive on like a stilted,
beautiful wooded like in thewoods house.
Yeah.
but I found that to be, I reallywas like, wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
He.
I understand that anger.
I don't think I got that when Iwas younger.
Yeah.
I don't think I understood.
I was just like, he kind ofannoyed me, honestly.
(28:45):
Like, why are you doing that,Cameron?
Erin (28:47):
Why are you being such a brat?
Tanya (28:48):
yeah.
Erin (28:49):
It does make, you know, 'cause he's just so, he's like,
he each, each hit, each punch isjust like, you know, he likes
his car more than me.
He is like the, you know, justbasically like, okay, we
couldn't set the odometer backso.
You know, he is gonna find outone way or another.
So I'm just so sick of this car,and I'm sick of how he treats me
(29:09):
and how he treats inanimateobjects better than he treats me
and mom.
And he cares about money andstatus and he doesn't even drive
this car.
So it just like, he, it justlike every time, and I think
Ferris and Sloane are juststanding there, like, at first
Ferris is gonna stop'em, andthen it's like, okay.
(29:31):
You know, like, you know, thenhe doesn't, but I think they're
just shocked seeing Cameronactually have a motion like that
instead of just going inward orjust, you know, just Yeah.
Tanya (29:43):
out.
Erin (29:43):
Yeah.
Tanya (29:45):
Yeah.
And it, it seems good for himuntil the car flies through the
window and then it's like, ohwow.
He's really gonna find out,yeah, what did I do?
That's no hide in that, but.
Yeah.
And, how Ferris, I didappreciate how Ferris was like,
let me take the slack, because Ikind of feel like he should
have, yeah.
So I got him into this.
Erin (30:02):
Cameron should have said yes.
It was 100% Ferris's.
fault and idea.
Tanya (30:08):
For sure, for sure.
I know Cameron was the one thatslapped it and hid it or
whatever, and ultimately causedit to go backwards.
Still.
Yeah.
it's absolutely, but Ferris madethe extra
Erin (30:18):
200 miles on the car because Yeah.
Like,'cause the idiot, um,parking attendants were like,
was like 3000, yeah.
Tanya (30:26):
3000 miles.
Erin (30:28):
Yeah.
Tanya (30:28):
that's how much I wish.
I'm like, how the heck, wheredid they drive?
Erin (30:31):
Yeah.
Where did they go?
Tanya (30:33):
But yeah.
And it, really is kind of sadwhen I look at it, you know, now
because we're obviously like,oh, he's this trauma and he's
right.
He's willing to take this on andlike, he wants to take this
heat.
'cause he is like, oh, this willopen up the conversation.
This will really, there's kindof no going back from this.
Right.
I can't like live this way.
Erin (30:49):
Right.
Tanya (30:50):
Which is such a, that reminds me of therapy a little
bit where somebody kind ofreaches their breaking point.
And they're just like, I.
Whether or not I need to saythis to my parent, you know,
kind of thing.
Erin (31:01):
I don't wanna be this person anymore.
I wanna show who I am, adifferent part of myself, or I'm
not willing to always beeveryone's punching bag or to be
ignored or whatever it is thatwas happening with Cameron.
Tanya (31:14):
He was taken in too much.
He didn't wanna be depressedanymore.
He didn't wanna mm-hmm.
Take that in.
I just really hope, like we weretalking about, I really hope his
dad is not like, abusive.
Yeah.
His dad didn't beat
Erin (31:25):
him.
Tanya (31:25):
yeah.
Hopefully that does turn itaround for, for Cameron.
Right.
I know these are fictionalcharacters, but that's, that's
our, our hope for as therapists.
Right.
definitely a check-in momentafter that to be like, what
happens, you know?
Yeah.
Hope everything's okay.
Erin (31:39):
You okay?
Cameron?
Do you need to talk?
Tanya (31:41):
yeah.
Erin (31:42):
but
Tanya (31:43):
yeah, and I think this is just a really, it's got some
pretty good music in there.
You know, some awesome eightiesmusic and eighties.
Hijinx eighties people.
It's, it's just very classicallyeighties.
the hairstyles, my God, themother,
Erin (32:01):
lots of people loved wavy, curly hair in the eighties.
Tanya (32:04):
Yeah.
And then the, the mother,Ferris's mother is like, how
it's that like shortcut, butit's kind of shaggy and kind of
like, yeah, it's just soeighties.
It just reminds me of eightiesfor, for women.
Erin (32:16):
and her, the dad and the mom are both the power couple.
Tanya (32:19):
Yeah, she's into real estate and he does like some
high, high end business deals orsomething.
yeah, so it was a great movie.
I think I would still watch thatat different points.
it's not a movie that I wouldnecessarily call a comfort
movie, but I think it issomething that I.
I like, and I think it has a lotof good points.
Erin (32:39):
Yeah.
If it's on, I'm glad we choseit.
I mean, it's definitely, youknow, it's good to bring, I like
that we go from this period.
Sometimes we'll have a lot ofcurrent stuff.
Well, not a lot, but we willhave current stuff that we're
doing nineties and eighties.
But, you know, it's a mix.
Tanya (33:00):
don't
Erin (33:00):
know.
Tanya (33:00):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I, if we're, if we're allfinished, I do have a question.
Okay.
That, so if you were to skipschool or skip work or whatever.
Okay.
And you had like a day where youcould just go spend, because
apparently Ferris is justindependently wealthy.
Yeah.
And just go like, spend money,what.
(33:23):
What city would you choose tospend the day in?
To play?
To play hooky?
Oh,
Erin (33:28):
anywhere so I could just magically transport, like,
because taking a plane wouldtake forever.
So if like, if we could,'causeif you're ski, if it's just one
day, so if we had like atransport, you know, like so we
could just go there and thencome back.
Tanya (33:40):
Yeah, I would say within the United States probably.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know that's kind of, you know,less fun.
But yeah, just probablysomewhere in the US Would you
like be like in a big city or,
Erin (33:49):
yeah, I know we've talked before that like our love of big
cities is not.
Huge.
But, I do like I mean, besidesBoston, I do really like Chicago
and I do like, Washington DCtoo.
'cause then you get to do allthe museums and the, Parks and
stuff like that.
And there's good food.
there's public transport, youknow, I think I'd probably do
(34:10):
Washington, DC but I really didlike Chicago when I went there
too, and I thought it was soclean and so pretty and just
really, yeah.
I was so impressed with howClean Chicago was.
Yeah.
So it'd be one of those two.
and then just, you know, I justhave all the money so I can just
go anywhere, I guess, for theday.
Tanya (34:26):
Yeah.
I think that would be fun.
I would definitely, like, Ithink Chicago would be on my
list.
I would like to do differentkind of artsy things and like
kind of try out different foodplaces.
And so it'd probably be Chicagoor New York, even though I'm not
big fan of big cities and thingslike that.
But I think if I could just kindof go and.
Just have fun exploringdifferent things.
(34:48):
Probably more New York.
I think I would just kind ofwanna see like, what could I,
Get into, I always see all theserandom popup events and I'm
like, that would be fun.
Erin (34:55):
yeah, I guess New York, if you had money so you wouldn't
have to be stuck on publictransportation.
I would not wanna take publictransportation in New York.
No, thank you.
Tanya (35:03):
Yeah.
I think you can.
I mean, I think it's like, youknow, you can walk, you can be a
certain area.
You can do walk.
Lot of walking.
Erin (35:10):
Yeah.
Tanya (35:10):
Yeah,
Erin (35:10):
I haven't been there in forever.
Tanya (35:12):
I would go to museums.
I would go see Broadway plays.
Yeah, I would go to somerestaurants, go to some art
popups.
Erin (35:18):
That would be nice.
Tanya (35:19):
Like that would be really, really fun.
Like anything that, I don'tknow, they always have
experimental, weird stuff that Ijust think like these popups, I
think.
I think it would be fun.
But that's what I would want todo.
Which I'm surprised.
I'm surprised.
I was like, why am I thinkingthat?
I do not like New York at all,but I do think of, yeah.
(35:40):
But if you had
Erin (35:41):
the money to just be like, all right, I'm just there for a
day.
I'm gonna get a show, go to themuseum, do this.
You know, it just, you're in andout.
You're not stuck living there.
Tanya (35:49):
Yeah.
exactly.
But yeah.
So that is, Ferris Bueller Dayoff.
There was talk of a sequel.
At some point they decided notto go with it because they
realized that this was just amoment in time that they
captured It kind of wouldn't becool to follow them to college.
Erin (36:05):
Right.
Tanya (36:06):
So they couldn't really get a good script outta that.
Erin (36:09):
Yeah.
And, and it ended up being like,remember those movies?
earnest, Ernest.
Ernest goes to camp.
Yeah.
Ernest goes to work.
My gosh.
Ernest goes to.
Tanya (36:19):
Ernest goes on vacation.
Yeah, it'd be like that.
Erin (36:22):
Like Ferris goes to college.
Ferris gets a job.
Tanya (36:25):
I think it would've been kind of, kind of like, I don't
know, hoaxy like that.
Yeah.
It wouldn't have really felt,yeah.
I think that's probably why theyultimately decided, like, this
is just like lightning in abottle kind of moments captured
there.
Just keep it there kind ofthing.
I think that era and probablynow they overdo it with remakes
and sequels.
Yeah.
That just are not.
Necessary.
(36:46):
I think some of them I'm like,oh, that's cool.
I'm really glad about thatbecause I love the thing, but I
still am like, Hmm, it's maybenot the best.
Erin (36:53):
Yeah.
Like I was happy with the KarateKid remake of like that Cobra
Kai show.
I haven't finished watching ityet, but that I really liked.
I was happy that they broughtback the old characters, but
sometimes you're like, do Ireally wanna see a remake of
this or,
Tanya (37:07):
yeah.
I really like the Dexterreprisal.
Yeah, I haven't seen that.
But now they're doing even morereprisals.
so they're doing like an earlyone and then they're doing
another like Dexter reprisal?
Reprisal in the summer.
Erin (37:19):
silly.
Tanya (37:20):
so I, I will, I definitely will watch it, but
I'm just like, why?
But I love Dexter so much, so Iwon't question it, but
Erin (37:27):
yeah.
Tanya (37:28):
Anyways, we hope that you liked this discussion on Ferris
Bueller's Day Off and all therandom stuff that we always
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Erin (37:35):
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Erin (37:47):
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Tanya (37:47):
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Erin (37:56):
and keep your mind well.
All right.
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Tanya (00:31):
Hey guys, it's Tanya.
Erin (00:33):
Hi, it's Erin and welcome to Wicked Psychotherapists.
Tanya (00:36):
Yeah, so today we are going to be talking about our
favorite decade, the eighties,well, a movie in our favorite
decade, the eighties.
and we're gonna be going back toFerris Bueller's Day off the
awesome cult classic with,Matthew Broderick, Jennifer
Gray.
(00:57):
Lots of other people we see inthere that I forgot about.
but this is a really great,classic, you know, adolescent
story.
It's also got a lot of mentalhealth themes that we're gonna,
you know, kind of poke into alittle bit.
I did want to, we always take alook at some of the movies that
we've seen.
(01:17):
Maybe a long time ago.
And the retrospect of kind oflike, okay, now we're looking at
them.
What do we think, what'sdifferent?
And I certainly feltdifferently.
I did really like the movie,when I was younger, but I found
myself getting annoyed atcertain points With this movie.
Way more so than when I wasyounger and kind of like over
analyzing it.
(01:38):
but did you find that as well,like that there was kind of some
points that were really kind of,I don't know, just maybe graded
on you or, or just like, ugh.
Yeah,
Erin (01:50):
because when, especially when I first watched it or even
watching it through high schooland everything, you'd think.
Ferris wheeler's kind of cool.
I do remember feeling bad forCameron, but rewatching it now.
I definitely felt, I had adifferent feeling about Ferris
throughout the movie and itwasn't always in his favor.
Tanya (02:12):
Yeah, right.
He's, yeah, he ki i, I mean, theopening scene you see him
plotting to be sick, which isjust so.
He is 17, 18, whatever he is,you know, doesn't want to go to
school.
But he's very manipulative.
And you know What kid probablyhasn't tried to do that, but
it's his parents and therelationship he has with his
parents, that really aggravatesme, where they're like, oh my
(02:36):
God, poor Ferris.
Like he's just this great goldenboy and he's just got them
fooled.
His sister Jeanie or JenniferGray is just so pissed off.
She's so angry because she knowswhat he's up to.
She knows he's being connivingand
Erin (02:51):
mm-hmm.
Tanya (02:52):
And he is always like that.
they're just, they treat Jeanielike crap.
Like the, he's like this goldenchild and they're like, oh, feel
better when he's just liketalking like a baby.
I was like, oh, I forgot aboutthat, that he's.
she seems like she's just kindof, angry but really she's got
something to be angry about,
Erin (03:10):
right?
Tanya (03:12):
Like it's, you know, she, she definitely kind of gets put
aside and Ferris gets, gets, youknow, elevated to Golden boy
status He's over here connivingand tricking his parents.
And they don't even know him.
They don't know who he is.
They think he's like this, likeangel,
Erin (03:27):
yeah, they, and it seems like they villainize the sister
or just don't realize that she'sactually behaving or she's the
one going to school and tryingto get good grades.
Tanya (03:40):
Yeah.
It's really, that was the firstpoint that I was like, oh, I
forgot about that.
I didn't really remember that.
But we kind of see Ferris is, Iguess we could say a
manipulative person, a charmingperson, which is probably on par
for, being around that age tokind of get what you want,
right?
Yeah.
and then he sets off to.
(04:01):
Make these elaborate plans.
we get a look around his roomand I have to admit, I was like,
this kid is in this reallywealthy house.
He's got anything and everythingin his room, especially for the
eighties.
Yeah.
You know, like it's very, verywealthy.
He's got this huge stereosystem, which I forgot about
stereos.
but yeah, he, I mean he is gotlike.
(04:22):
He's got everything.
He's got everything that youneed.
He just seems like a veryprivileged kid.
You know?
Like he's kind of, and he isjust like, oh, school is the
worst thing.
That's the worst thing for him.
And, but that's just kind of my,my perspective as, as someone
looking at, you know, like, youknow, kind of, I, I never really
could relate to those issues.
(04:43):
'cause I was like, that's not,that's not, it could be worse,
you know?
Mm-hmm.
And yeah, he, he tries to ropein.
Cameron his best friend who's,who's obviously very sick, he's
got a lot of, a lot ofdepression issues with his
family.
He internalizes them and getssick a lot and is really just
trying to manipulate him to belike, Hey, come on over here.
(05:03):
Let's do something to buck upman up and take some Pepto bmo,
you know, kind of thing.
And Cameron really seems to havea lot going on and.
On, on the one side, Ferrisseems to be like, oh, I really
want to cheer him up.
But he is also just trying to,you know, have a buddy to Go do
something with.
And to use his card.
(05:23):
Well, I
Erin (05:24):
and to use his car, because Ferris mentions a few
times I wanted a car, but I gota computer.
Tanya (05:30):
Yeah.
Erin (05:30):
So it's like his sister has a car, but you know, he
doesn't, well, it seems like shedoes, she just drives that
little white thing around.
Tanya (05:37):
which is kind of strange because if the parents do kind
of vilify.
Jeanie, but they, theyrecognized that she was
responsible enough for the carand he wasn't.
And he seems to be older thanher.
He's a senior and she's in highschool with him, so I'm guessing
she is like a junior or asophomore in high school.
(05:58):
But yeah, which is kind of,maybe, maybe they're, I don't
know, maybe they're just annoyedwith her on that day.
I don't know.
But Also, it's a movie, so
Erin (06:07):
we don't know everything.
It's not real life, it's justone, it's a movie and it's one
day in their life.
Yeah.
Tanya (06:12):
Right.
Yeah.
But it really, I think Ferrisjust comes off as someone who,
really wants to capture theselast moments in his senior year.
Of just like, you know, he'stalking about, you know, we're
going into adulthood and youknow, life moves by pretty fast.
If you don't stop and lookaround you could miss it, He has
this really kind of coolattitude about mindfulness and
being present, which issomething we tout and, and
(06:34):
therapy.
Mm-hmm.
A lot, you know, kind of ifyou're too anxious, maybe
peeping into the future too muchor thinking about the future or
the past, maybe mindfulnessexercises, kind of enjoying
what's around you, engaging inwhat's around you.
he's got that down.
I mean, he definitely is prettymindful, I think.
So that's a good point.
Erin (06:54):
mm-hmm.
Tanya (06:56):
what did you think of the plot to get Sloan out of school?
It just seems so overlycomplicated.
Erin (07:02):
Well, and that's where I feel like there's the
manipulation with Ferris again,with poor Cameron like
manipulating Cameron, knowingthat Cameron has like probably
low self-esteem, depression, andeasily manipulated that Sloane
already knew the plan beforeCameron was even part of it
(07:25):
because as soon as like she.
Got the phone, the teacher gotthe phone call and the nurse
comes in, Sloan's putting on herfringe jacket, you know, just
to, you know, to get ready.
So it seemed kind of elaborateand just, I mean, yeah, I mean,
I could, I could understandlike, okay, we're gonna have her
part of it.
But it did seem kind of sillyand dumb, but it also, it did
(07:52):
feel like.
Ferris manipulated Cameron to doit because they needed,
obviously they needed his car,his dad's car to make it all
work.
Okay, I wanna wake up Cameronand get him out of bed, but we
need your fancy car becausehe'll never be believable if we
bring, you know, if you're oldBMW won't work.
We have to have the Ferrari.
Tanya (08:13):
Yeah.
You know, so it's a real adult'scar kind of thing.
Erin (08:16):
Yeah.
Tanya (08:17):
it, it really is.
It's so, it's got that eightieshijinks like, I mean, John
Hughes, direction in there whereit really, just works out,
right.
He has Cameron call and then hepurposefully Ferris will call on
the other line to be like, oh,it's not me.
Erin (08:33):
Right.
Tanya (08:35):
And you know, the principal's already called.
Who he thinks is Ferris Buellerplaying Sloan dad, like all
these bad names and everything.
And, he's kind of gottabacktrack and then he feels
like, oh my gosh, I just calledthis guy.
All these things.
it's just so eighties, likecheesy like that that just, I,
that would not work now.
I mean, because of course peoplecould like, Voice changers, you
(08:56):
know, just calling up the, theparents, texting the parents,
you know?
Mm-hmm.
Like, it really, it would notwork.
Right.
Erin (09:02):
Plus everything has caller ID now,
Tanya (09:04):
Yeah.
Erin (09:04):
Unless you like star 69 or something where you're just
like, all right, six, nine to
Tanya (09:09):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It still, that still works, Ibelieve, but Yeah, there,
there's so, there's so much, Imean, technology now that I, I
just don't think this would be,this wouldn't fly nowadays.
I was just thinking like, wow,that they have all these, these,
you know, for that time, 1986,like high tech answering
machines with, the tape messagesthat Yeah, it just, yeah, the
(09:32):
tape.
Oh my gosh.
The tape.
Yeah.
It was, and, and you know, the,you mentioned the fringe jacket.
Yeah.
That was so eighties.
It was the, the white leatherlike fringe jacket.
Yeah.
It was just like, oh my gosh.
I remember that only went right
Erin (09:46):
up to your pants.
Like it really didn't probablymake you warm at all, like if
you needed it.
Yeah.
Tanya (09:50):
Yeah.
It was, definitely a lot of thateighties stuff going on.
and no cell phones, you know, sothey had to do it kind of old
school and set up all these kindof like home alone esque.
Erin (10:03):
Which is interesting'cause he, I think, didn't he direct
home alone too?
So maybe, yeah, he uses a lot ofhis same things in all of his
movies.
The car, you know, the stand infront of the car, like they do
in, what was it, 16 candles orsomething,
Tanya (10:17):
think John Hughes has a lot about adolescents that maybe
he got stuck in or he just had alot of feelings about, because
that seems to be his niche, likein different movies.
Yeah.
He really focuses on fooling theadults and being like a teenager
and, having hijinks and really,you know, kind of cheesy stuff
in a good way.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, very positively, Yeah.
(10:39):
And then they get SLO out andthe principal is talking to her
trying to make some poetic typeof sentiment because he believes
that her grandmother died.
And she's just like, you're avery kind man thinking like, oh
my God, she sound like an idiot.
Yeah.
And then they kiss and he'slike, that's how it is in their
family.
Huh?
Like, that's which I would thinkhe would be like, all right.
(11:01):
That's weird.
Ferris wait.
Yeah.
You would think like, he'd
Erin (11:04):
be like, all right, this is, I'm being had.
Yeah.
But, but I was thinking herfamily must be super wealthy and
maybe they give money to theschool or something.
Like, why would he be sointimidated?
By her dad.
not only did he, you know,because he said stupid stuff on
the phone, but it seemed like hewas very like, oh my gosh, I
(11:25):
gotta make this right.
You know, this is, it's reallyhim.
Yeah.
Tanya (11:28):
yeah, and I think he probably, that's probably why he
didn't go near him, you know, hekind of stayed on the steps and
everything, which of course isthe perfect plan because
Cameron's in the back hidingfrom, from all of it.
And Ferris just has likesunglasses on and a hat come
Yeah.
Looks like Inspector Gadget.
Oh my gosh.
Erin (11:47):
That's funny.
He does.
Didn't he play Inspector Gadget?
Tanya (11:50):
He did.
Oh, that's so funny.
Erin (11:52):
That is so funny because that his outfit in that movie
with the trench coat in the hat,he looks just like Inspector
Gadget.
That's so funny.
That's an awesome
Tanya (12:02):
connection there.
That's funny.
I.
That's a good connection.
Yeah.
Oh, so I wonder if maybe, maybethere was some thought like, ah,
in that scene he kind of, hekinda looks like Inspector
Gadget.
Yeah.
And years later
Erin (12:14):
it's like, Hey,
Tanya (12:14):
it.
Erin (12:14):
Like someone would be like, all right, I've always
liked Inspector Gadget and
Tanya (12:17):
Oh, that's funny.
I didn't even think of that.
now
Erin (12:19):
I kind
Tanya (12:19):
yeah, there's lots of little, I think fun things about
this movie that are just soeighties.
It brings you back to if youwere in school in the eighties.
Um, I was more in the nineties,like high school.
Oh, I was in high school in thenineties.
Yeah.
But, uh.
It, it just was, it just waskind of funny to see this kind
of old school eighties prankbeing pulled over on these dumb
(12:40):
adults.
and the dippy secretary,everything.
And so then they go off on theiradventure.
They go to Chicago becausethey're in some part of Illinois
or maybe they're in Chicagoitself.
And, yeah, they start to.
You know, Ferris wants to findthem places where they can have
like the ultimate experience ofjust like going to dinner at a
fancy restaurant, which is justso again, so unbelievable.
(13:03):
Yeah.
How they're able to get in, and,and just kind of trick him and,
just ridiculousness.
the hostess, the man who playsthe hostess, he is really, he is
so snotty.
He is just like, Ugh, no, youare the, the.
Hot, the sausage king of, ofChicago, you know, and he just,
(13:24):
I don't know.
He's, he's just so, so snooty,stereotypically like snooty
restaurant.
Mm-hmm.
And then, you know, along theway, I think Ferris is really
trying to be like, let's makethe best of this.
Let's live in the moment.
Let's have these adventures iskind of stuck in his head.
He's really, he is got a lot ofdepression.
It sounds like.
He's got a lot of family stuffthat.
(13:46):
Goes on, you know?
His parents don't like eachother.
His father likes the car morethan him, or his mom doesn't
seem like they talk to him.
Erin (13:53):
Mm-hmm.
Tanya (13:54):
he's sick a lot, probably because he is so stressed out.
he seems like a very sensitiveperson and he lives in a very
dysfunctional family.
And who knows if there'spossibly some Abuse.
It's not stated, but he doesseem to be very.
Afraid of his dad.
Erin (14:07):
And the family, like if you look at the house, I mean
the house is crazy, you know,like it just like he's family is
probably very, very wealthy andthat they're just leaving like
he's home alone for, you know,however long.
'cause they're both on differentexcursions or different trips
even, you know, it just seemslike Cameron is just, yeah, not
(14:30):
very.
There's not a lot of, I don'tknow, I wanna say love, but
like, or affection probably fromeither parent for him.
Yeah.
So maybe that's also why he isreally drawn to his friendship
with Ferris, because Ferris,yeah, he, Ferris is very
selfish, but he still is showingsome attention to Cameron and
(14:53):
they've known each other for solong.
So there could be that comforttoo.
Tanya (14:58):
Yeah, and I think, you know, I kind of wonder, and this
is just, kind of deep divinginto the psychology of their
friendship.
I wonder, and I know it's amovie, but you know, this is
what we do.
I kind of wonder if maybe theywere, you know, when you become
friends at like five, it'sbecause you both like the same
toy or something, or the samecolor, right?
Yeah.
There's nothing really to,you're in
Erin (15:17):
the same classroom You're in the
Tanya (15:18):
same class.
Yeah.
You, you kind of, Hey, you sitright behind me.
If there's nothing, no bigconnection, but.
I wonder if Ferris is kind ofthe person who will push Cameron
out and will kind of be like,come on, come on.
Which, which is kind of more toFerris's benefit.
Mm-hmm.
But I think that does getCameron out of his kind of like,
like sad world sort of the wayhe's internalized all this.
(15:42):
And Ferris is just kind of like,I just want to have fun.
And he doesn't really thinkabout consequences for people,
but he's very much.
He's kind of self-absorbed, buthe's also very much like, hey, a
good example of how to, how tojust live in the moment.
How to, how to just be so there,there may be kind of, they, they
kind of bring out some traits ineach other.
(16:02):
Because maybe some introversionor introspection from Cameron.
Erin (16:07):
Yeah.
And Cameron might also bringthat to Ferris too, on days that
we didn't see, you know, like,so he might help calm him and be
like, Hey look.
Maybe you shouldn't do thisreally risky thing or, you know,
not everything is, you know, doyou don't need all the instant
gratification for everything?
Let's slow down.
Tanya (16:25):
yeah.
And so I think that that's kindof interesting.
But then there is a pointtowards the end where Ferris
does, he's kind of pondering,you know, he is kind of breaking
the fourth wall, talking to thecamera.
He, which he does at a couplepoints.
He is like, oh, you know, I, Idon't really know what's, you
know, Cameron and I willprobably go to different schools
and maybe this is it.
(16:46):
You know, like, I don't knowthat we're really gonna be
friends and, or as close becausehe, and I think that's another
motivation for this, this time.
Mm-hmm.
These memories, right?
Yeah.
I also think Ferris is kind ofself-aware in that and being
like, Hey friends, drift apart.
Not like he's saying he wantsto, but just like we probably
(17:07):
will go to different colleges,we'll meet different people and
do different things and we won'tbe as close as we were.
And the same with maybe Sloanthe Girlfriend who's a year
behind them.
And so I think there is thisfeeling of like, let's put a
stamp on this because this isspecial.
You know, so you could kind ofsee that in there.
I really liked the scenes inChicago.
(17:28):
This was, somebody had writtensome article, I don't know where
it was from, I'm sorry.
And maybe it was a couple ofarticles that said, this was
John Hughes, like love letter toChicago, because he got to.
Display, you know, all the bigsites.
The Reley field and the museum.
Erin (17:44):
the Sears Tower or whatever it, the Sears
Tanya (17:46):
Tower.
Yeah.
And they were like looking downon that and then, the parade,
which is, I don't know thesignificance of that parade.
I feel there was somesignificance, like that's a
parade that they have orsomething.
Erin (17:57):
was like either a German or a Polish American,
Tanya (17:59):
Like cultural kinda thing that they maybe have.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I, it, it sounds, you know,of course Pharisee, he ends up
jumping on a float and charminghis way to being the, the center
of that, which is, is fun.
I think they all have funtogether and it's like an
experience that's a memory, youknow, he's really good at
creating memories and being,being big in that.
(18:23):
Even though he may be kind ofself-serving, he definitely kind
of promotes that.
He kind of moves that along, Ithink, in those, and with Sloan
and, and Cameron,
Erin (18:31):
Yeah.
'cause people are drawn to him.
I kept hovering like with like,okay, is he just a teenager?
Is he selfish?
Does he have narcissistictraits?
Is he a good friend?
Is he a bad friend?
Why is everyone drawn to him?
Like even like when he is on thefloat, when he is doing the
twist in shout, like the whole,you know, it's just so
ridiculous that everybody in theworld is just like dancing to it
(18:53):
and singing to it becausethey're just drawn, you know?
Well, it's a catchy song, butit's also, they're drawn to him.
Like his energy.
And so what is his, you know,what makes him so charismatic
and what makes, you know, what,what is it about him that people
are drawn to for good and bad?
Because at school they're like,some people wanna cheat off of
stuff he has, or some peoplewanna help him, or they're just
(19:14):
drawn and like all the flowersand stuff and the Save Ferris on
the water tower, and.
It's like people are just reallydrawn to him for some reason.
Tanya (19:22):
I think it's his charisma and the reason why the principal
and his sister don't like him.
with his sister, it's a littledifferent because of that
dynamic, The way the parentstreat her.
the principal gets so aggravatedby him because.
He doesn't follow the rules.
He'll do what feels good, buthe's not necessarily trying to
harm people.
He is doing something that a lotof people want to do.
Erin (19:42):
Right.
Tanya (19:43):
it kind of sparks to other people who are not, you
know, Jealous and wanna kind ofsuppress that and maybe
miserable there.
it's very attractive because Ithink a lot of people are
attracted to that.
Yeah.
They want people around who cankind of enjoy the moment.
'cause then it helps them to bein the moment.
Erin (20:02):
yeah, I think he is that just made me think of being in
the moment and being attractedto that is when Jeanie was in
the police station and she'ssitting next to Charlie Sheen
Tanya (20:12):
who just showed up for work.
They didn't, no makeup needed.
Erin (20:15):
like, okay, I really was high.
No, but it's, you know, likeshe's just so disgusted by him
at first, you know, he's sogross.
He's dirty.
just very judgemental.
But then they start talking andhe has some really valid points.
talking to her about a differentperspective and different
things, and then by the endthey're full on, making out,
(20:36):
because she's realizing maybethere is an attraction to the
person that's, going against thegrain.
Tanya (20:42):
Yeah.
it kind of appeals to her.
it's something that she hasdifficulty with.
She suppresses it and she getsangry that Ferris can just
flaunt it and be everyone'sfavorite.
And everyone loves him in thewhole school wants to save him.
It just blows up into this.
Erin (20:57):
Yeah.
Tanya (20:58):
Like, oh my gosh, he's gonna need a kidney.
And, and you know, it's even atWrigley Field where they're at,
like, say Ferris.
It's just spread so far.
It's right.
It's absurd.
Um.
Which is, kind of funny how Ithink once Jeanie is able to
confront and kind of say,'causehe is like, what do you care if
your brother gets attention andshe's kind of thinking about it,
(21:19):
maybe like, yeah, what, what doI care?
You know, maybe I can just kindof focus on myself.
This is kind of wasted energy.
And like, look, there's this guyright in front of me who maybe
she finds a attract.
Erin (21:30):
Why are you so focused on him getting the attention?
Then maybe you get a opportunityto do different things, or you
can get attention in differentways.
If he wants to be the goo googaga baby to the parents and get
away like that, she could showthat she's mature and she's not
gonna mess things up, or, youknow, just live.
Tanya (21:51):
Yeah.
She can just kind of do her ownthing, and she doesn't have to
worry about that.
And it seems like she reallykind of, so something kind of
shifts in her perspectivebecause at the end she could
have totally, you know, fareswhen he is trying to get back
and be back in bed.
He's running through theneighborhood and he gets locked
out of the back door.
the principal thinks he got him,principal Rooney or whatever,
(22:12):
thinks he got him.
Jeanie opens up the door and islike, oh, you've wandered off.
We've been worried sick, youknow, and kind of covers for him
It was kind of like, Hey, maybethis could actually be something
that, you know, we could be kindof friendly towards each other.
and this could be a decentsibling relationship and I don't
have to carry this kind ofbitterness with me.
Erin (22:35):
Mm-hmm.
Tanya (22:35):
you know, and maybe that would kind of change the
dynamic.
It does seem like he's verylike, oh my gosh.
Wow.
She's
Erin (22:41):
Yeah.
Why is she doing that?
Yeah, it's.
Shocking.
Tanya (22:44):
Yeah.
And then, because I think,Jeanie's more upset that she
finds the wallet and sherealizes that the principal had
broken into the house And gottenher kind of, you know, dragged
down to the
Erin (22:55):
Yeah.
So somebody really, and thenalso it's like proof that she
wasn't making it up.
That she wasn't crazy, shewasn't doing a false statement,
you know, she knew somebodybroke into the house.
I mean, she had kicked him inthe nose.
But now she's like, look, I haveyour wallet.
Tanya (23:11):
guess it's just so crazy to me because when that scene
happens, I'm like, how would younot go to your parents and be
like, look, his wallet was, lookat him.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And like I, I know that's not asfunny and I know that doesn't
like support it, but I'm justlike, now we would, we wouldn't
even be like our principal waslike leering around.
Yeah.
What a creep.
Yeah.
He just like breaks in and like,or just walks in and.
(23:32):
Yeah.
but I, I did really like.
Jeannie, during that time when,when the principal does break in
and she's on the intercom andshe's like, I just want you to
know I have, I have my parents'gun and a raging case of, of
herpes.
It's just like, do not attack
Erin (23:48):
Yeah.
Tanya (23:50):
But yeah, her character becomes kind of more lovable
mm-hmm.
towards the end.
Like you can see her, you cankind of understand that.
And it's so funny that it'sCharlie Sheen that helps her to
realize that.
Erin (24:00):
Yeah.
And i's funny because in that,even then, he's probably like
all of like, maybe, I don't knowif it was before some of his
other movies, but he looks a lotolder than whatever he's
supposed to be.
Like, if he's supposed to belike 17 or 18 he looks.
'cause he probably really was alittle weathered.
Tanya (24:17):
He definitely looks like in his twenties at least, But
yeah, he looks rough for sure.
And again, maybe that was, Idon't know if that was makeup
Erin (24:25):
it could have been.
I mean, maybe he was straightand narrow then.
Tanya (24:27):
I doubt it, but I don't know.
I think he showed up to worklike that.
They were like, yeah, I think sotoo.
Erin (24:31):
right, I'm a little hungover.
Tanya (24:33):
they just went with it.
They were like, yep.
The attire, the hair, the face,everything.
Let's keep it ready.
Yeah.
this is just an endearingclassic.
This is, I think this is namedlike one of the top something
classic movies for like teens orsomething.
Like adolescence.
By some list.
it is recognized as a, yeah.
(24:54):
You know,
Erin (24:55):
pretty classic
Tanya (24:56):
movie in that regard.
Erin (24:57):
Yeah, I know it came out when I,'cause I am a little
older than you.
It came out when I was in middleschool and I think I probably
first watched it in middleschool, just a little bit after.
'cause you know, Blockbuster,you could still see it within
the first few months So a lot ofus saw Blockbuster current
movies.
Yep.
Blockbuster.
Tanya (25:17):
We had to wait.
We had to wait.
Younguns.
Okay.
We had to wait.
We didn't get it.
Erin (25:21):
We didn't get it the same week, but we did have to, we, we
could still get it within thesame year, like a few, several
months.
Tanya (25:27):
Yeah.
It's still okay.
It still hits me even now when amovie comes out in the theaters
and like you can.
Rent it off of Amazon Prime.
Yeah, like a week later.
I'm still like gobsmacked aboutthat.
Yeah.
I'm just like, why?
Sometimes you can even do
Erin (25:43):
it, sometimes you can even rent it while it's still in the
theater.
Tanya (25:46):
Really?
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, you had to pay a
Erin (25:48):
lot more.
But, so there are sometimes thatthey do that.
Tanya (25:53):
So it's kind of like, I mean, I think movie theaters are
just not, like they used to justbe the sole point for movies
coming out.
Right.
And like new stuff coming out.
But now it's just like the poweris taken away by a lot of these
streaming services.
Yeah.
Erin (26:05):
and people like comfort.
They wanna, like, a lot ofpeople don't wanna, even though
they're like, okay, we have thereclining chairs in the movie
theater.
You get to choose your own seatif you want.
They're trying to make it a lotmore appealing.
But I think some people arelike.
Okay.
That, or sit on my couch andfall asleep.
While I'm watching the movie.
Tanya (26:24):
And I can also like stop it and go to the bathroom
instead of like running out andwondering if I'm gonna miss
something.
Erin (26:31):
Get everyone mad.
Tanya (26:32):
Yeah, I remember that like blockbuster.
Waiting until it was on tv, youknow, like that type of thing.
Actually, I remember waitingtill it was on TV and then
Blockbuster, and then even whenyou could get Netflix, like the
DVDs you could mail in.
Erin (26:46):
Oh yeah.
And mail
Tanya (26:47):
out.
I thought oh my gosh, that's soconvenient.
Erin (26:50):
Yeah.
Tanya (26:50):
And now I just think of like the streaming services we
have and like what is the futuregonna be?
Erin (26:55):
I don't know.
It's just, yeah, there's alwaysso much.
okay, let me see what I have.
I don't have enough to watch.
Tanya (27:02):
And there's literally, so much.
Erin (27:03):
last night I was like, okay, where can I find Ferris
Bueller?
Because I, I was like, I have torewatch this.
'cause I'm like, I've watched ita lot, but I'm like, I need to
re-see it.
So I just was like, I have like,what is that?
Paramount?
Paramount or whatever withAmazon.
So I watch, I was like, okay,it's free.
Just had to watch a couple ads.
But even that we're soconditioned, like ads.
(27:24):
I don't wanna watch ads, butit's like, yeah, it's, it's like
one minute and then you watchthe movie.
No big deal.
Tanya (27:32):
Yeah.
And that can be a nice.
Like built-in bathroom break orsomething.
Make your popcorn, make
Erin (27:37):
your popcorn time or something.
I don't,
Tanya (27:39):
I don't mind ads.
I'm not a big, like, I mean, if,if, if they are coming in for
like three minutes at a timeevery 10 minutes Yeah.
I don't, I don't love that.
But I don't mind ads if they'rejust kind of brief and they put
'em in here and there.
Yeah.
Because I'm like, I, I kind ofneed those breaks.
Erin (27:56):
those ads, I mean, they're usually.
What is it usually like ahundred, 104 a minute and 45
seconds or something like that.
It's usually some stupid number.
Yeah.
And yeah, it's pretty quick.
Tanya (28:07):
Yeah.
I really think, in continuing onwith the movie, with the ending
with Cameron, where Cameron justlets out, how frustrated he is
that his dad, loves this car,pays more attention to his car.
Than he does to his own son.
and he kind of kicks the car.
Then it ends
Erin (28:23):
up
Tanya (28:24):
flying out the window.
Yeah.
down below because they, theylive on like a stilted,
beautiful wooded like in thewoods house.
Yeah.
but I found that to be, I reallywas like, wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
He.
I understand that anger.
I don't think I got that when Iwas younger.
Yeah.
I don't think I understood.
I was just like, he kind ofannoyed me, honestly.
(28:45):
Like, why are you doing that,Cameron?
Erin (28:47):
Why are you being such a brat?
Tanya (28:48):
yeah.
Erin (28:49):
It does make, you know, 'cause he's just so, he's like,
he each, each hit, each punch isjust like, you know, he likes
his car more than me.
He is like the, you know, justbasically like, okay, we
couldn't set the odometer backso.
You know, he is gonna find outone way or another.
So I'm just so sick of this car,and I'm sick of how he treats me
(29:09):
and how he treats inanimateobjects better than he treats me
and mom.
And he cares about money andstatus and he doesn't even drive
this car.
So it just like, he, it justlike every time, and I think
Ferris and Sloane are juststanding there, like, at first
Ferris is gonna stop'em, andthen it's like, okay.
(29:31):
You know, like, you know, thenhe doesn't, but I think they're
just shocked seeing Cameronactually have a motion like that
instead of just going inward orjust, you know, just Yeah.
Tanya (29:43):
out.
Erin (29:43):
Yeah.
Tanya (29:45):
Yeah.
And it, it seems good for himuntil the car flies through the
window and then it's like, ohwow.
He's really gonna find out,yeah, what did I do?
That's no hide in that, but.
Yeah.
And, how Ferris, I didappreciate how Ferris was like,
let me take the slack, because Ikind of feel like he should
have, yeah.
So I got him into this.
Erin (30:02):
Cameron should have said yes.
It was 100% Ferris's.
fault and idea.
Tanya (30:08):
For sure, for sure.
I know Cameron was the one thatslapped it and hid it or
whatever, and ultimately causedit to go backwards.
Still.
Yeah.
it's absolutely, but Ferris madethe extra
Erin (30:18):
200 miles on the car because Yeah.
Like,'cause the idiot, um,parking attendants were like,
was like 3000, yeah.
Tanya (30:26):
3000 miles.
Erin (30:28):
Yeah.
Tanya (30:28):
that's how much I wish.
I'm like, how the heck, wheredid they drive?
Erin (30:31):
Yeah.
Where did they go?
Tanya (30:33):
But yeah.
And it, really is kind of sadwhen I look at it, you know, now
because we're obviously like,oh, he's this trauma and he's
right.
He's willing to take this on andlike, he wants to take this
heat.
'cause he is like, oh, this willopen up the conversation.
This will really, there's kindof no going back from this.
Right.
I can't like live this way.
Erin (30:49):
Right.
Tanya (30:50):
Which is such a, that reminds me of therapy a little
bit where somebody kind ofreaches their breaking point.
And they're just like, I.
Whether or not I need to saythis to my parent, you know,
kind of thing.
Erin (31:01):
I don't wanna be this person anymore.
I wanna show who I am, adifferent part of myself, or I'm
not willing to always beeveryone's punching bag or to be
ignored or whatever it is thatwas happening with Cameron.
Tanya (31:14):
He was taken in too much.
He didn't wanna be depressedanymore.
He didn't wanna mm-hmm.
Take that in.
I just really hope, like we weretalking about, I really hope his
dad is not like, abusive.
Yeah.
His dad didn't beat
Erin (31:25):
him.
Tanya (31:25):
yeah.
Hopefully that does turn itaround for, for Cameron.
Right.
I know these are fictionalcharacters, but that's, that's
our, our hope for as therapists.
Right.
definitely a check-in momentafter that to be like, what
happens, you know?
Yeah.
Hope everything's okay.
Erin (31:39):
You okay?
Cameron?
Do you need to talk?
Tanya (31:41):
yeah.
Erin (31:42):
but
Tanya (31:43):
yeah, and I think this is just a really, it's got some
pretty good music in there.
You know, some awesome eightiesmusic and eighties.
Hijinx eighties people.
It's, it's just very classicallyeighties.
the hairstyles, my God, themother,
Erin (32:01):
lots of people loved wavy, curly hair in the eighties.
Tanya (32:04):
Yeah.
And then the, the mother,Ferris's mother is like, how
it's that like shortcut, butit's kind of shaggy and kind of
like, yeah, it's just soeighties.
It just reminds me of eightiesfor, for women.
Erin (32:16):
and her, the dad and the mom are both the power couple.
Tanya (32:19):
Yeah, she's into real estate and he does like some
high, high end business deals orsomething.
yeah, so it was a great movie.
I think I would still watch thatat different points.
it's not a movie that I wouldnecessarily call a comfort
movie, but I think it issomething that I.
I like, and I think it has a lotof good points.
Erin (32:39):
Yeah.
If it's on, I'm glad we choseit.
I mean, it's definitely, youknow, it's good to bring, I like
that we go from this period.
Sometimes we'll have a lot ofcurrent stuff.
Well, not a lot, but we willhave current stuff that we're
doing nineties and eighties.
But, you know, it's a mix.
Tanya (33:00):
don't
Erin (33:00):
know.
Tanya (33:00):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I, if we're, if we're allfinished, I do have a question.
Okay.
That, so if you were to skipschool or skip work or whatever.
Okay.
And you had like a day where youcould just go spend, because
apparently Ferris is justindependently wealthy.
Yeah.
And just go like, spend money,what.
(33:23):
What city would you choose tospend the day in?
To play?
To play hooky?
Oh,
Erin (33:28):
anywhere so I could just magically transport, like,
because taking a plane wouldtake forever.
So if like, if we could,'causeif you're ski, if it's just one
day, so if we had like atransport, you know, like so we
could just go there and thencome back.
Tanya (33:40):
Yeah, I would say within the United States probably.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know that's kind of, you know,less fun.
But yeah, just probablysomewhere in the US Would you
like be like in a big city or,
Erin (33:49):
yeah, I know we've talked before that like our love of big
cities is not.
Huge.
But, I do like I mean, besidesBoston, I do really like Chicago
and I do like, Washington DCtoo.
'cause then you get to do allthe museums and the, Parks and
stuff like that.
And there's good food.
there's public transport, youknow, I think I'd probably do
(34:10):
Washington, DC but I really didlike Chicago when I went there
too, and I thought it was soclean and so pretty and just
really, yeah.
I was so impressed with howClean Chicago was.
Yeah.
So it'd be one of those two.
and then just, you know, I justhave all the money so I can just
go anywhere, I guess, for theday.
Tanya (34:26):
Yeah.
I think that would be fun.
I would definitely, like, Ithink Chicago would be on my
list.
I would like to do differentkind of artsy things and like
kind of try out different foodplaces.
And so it'd probably be Chicagoor New York, even though I'm not
big fan of big cities and thingslike that.
But I think if I could just kindof go and.
Just have fun exploringdifferent things.
(34:48):
Probably more New York.
I think I would just kind ofwanna see like, what could I,
Get into, I always see all theserandom popup events and I'm
like, that would be fun.
Erin (34:55):
yeah, I guess New York, if you had money so you wouldn't
have to be stuck on publictransportation.
I would not wanna take publictransportation in New York.
No, thank you.
Tanya (35:03):
Yeah.
I think you can.
I mean, I think it's like, youknow, you can walk, you can be a
certain area.
You can do walk.
Lot of walking.
Erin (35:10):
Yeah.
Tanya (35:10):
Yeah,
Erin (35:10):
I haven't been there in forever.
Tanya (35:12):
I would go to museums.
I would go see Broadway plays.
Yeah, I would go to somerestaurants, go to some art
popups.
Erin (35:18):
That would be nice.
Tanya (35:19):
Like that would be really, really fun.
Like anything that, I don'tknow, they always have
experimental, weird stuff that Ijust think like these popups, I
think.
I think it would be fun.
But that's what I would want todo.
Which I'm surprised.
I'm surprised.
I was like, why am I thinkingthat?
I do not like New York at all,but I do think of, yeah.
(35:40):
But if you had
Erin (35:41):
the money to just be like, all right, I'm just there for a
day.
I'm gonna get a show, go to themuseum, do this.
You know, it just, you're in andout.
You're not stuck living there.
Tanya (35:49):
Yeah.
exactly.
But yeah.
So that is, Ferris Bueller Dayoff.
There was talk of a sequel.
At some point they decided notto go with it because they
realized that this was just amoment in time that they
captured It kind of wouldn't becool to follow them to college.
Erin (36:05):
Right.
Tanya (36:06):
So they couldn't really get a good script outta that.
Erin (36:09):
Yeah.
And, and it ended up being like,remember those movies?
earnest, Ernest.
Ernest goes to camp.
Yeah.
Ernest goes to work.
My gosh.
Ernest goes to.
Tanya (36:19):
Ernest goes on vacation.
Yeah, it'd be like that.
Erin (36:22):
Like Ferris goes to college.
Ferris gets a job.
Tanya (36:25):
I think it would've been kind of, kind of like, I don't
know, hoaxy like that.
Yeah.
It wouldn't have really felt,yeah.
I think that's probably why theyultimately decided, like, this
is just like lightning in abottle kind of moments captured
there.
Just keep it there kind ofthing.
I think that era and probablynow they overdo it with remakes
and sequels.
Yeah.
That just are not.
Necessary.
(36:46):
I think some of them I'm like,oh, that's cool.
I'm really glad about thatbecause I love the thing, but I
still am like, Hmm, it's maybenot the best.
Erin (36:53):
Yeah.
Like I was happy with the KarateKid remake of like that Cobra
Kai show.
I haven't finished watching ityet, but that I really liked.
I was happy that they broughtback the old characters, but
sometimes you're like, do Ireally wanna see a remake of
this or,
Tanya (37:07):
yeah.
I really like the Dexterreprisal.
Yeah, I haven't seen that.
But now they're doing even morereprisals.
so they're doing like an earlyone and then they're doing
another like Dexter reprisal?
Reprisal in the summer.
Erin (37:19):
silly.
Tanya (37:20):
so I, I will, I definitely will watch it, but
I'm just like, why?
But I love Dexter so much, so Iwon't question it, but
Erin (37:27):
yeah.
Tanya (37:28):
Anyways, we hope that you liked this discussion on Ferris
Bueller's Day Off and all therandom stuff that we always
eventually talk
Erin (37:35):
about.
Tanya (37:36):
so let us know what you think.
Anything to add in, any futureideas.
We love all that stuff.
We're on socials, Facebook,Instagram, and now YouTube.
Erin (37:47):
Yep.
Tanya (37:47):
let us know if you have any ideas or any, anything that
you think, anything you wannaadd, we'd love to hear from you.
And don't forget, stay wicked
Erin (37:56):
and keep your mind well.
All right.
Have a, have a great day andgreat week.
Bye-bye.
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