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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
But my number one tip in life is to start taking
action today.
Don't wait for tomorrow.
The opportunities of today mightbe gone to you.
The opportunities today are theopportunities that you're
supposed to step into.
And there is so much you willlearn once you start taking
action.
I can't more highly recommendyou just start putting one foot
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in front of the other.
One of the things I teach peopleconstantly, especially
entrepreneurs, is that I willlearn 90% of what I need to know
on the path.
SPEAKER_00 (00:34):
Two hard things.
Help one person.
Be good and do good.
Live a life of discipline, andyou will always win.
You have all the tools that youneed to succeed.
Welcome to Win Today.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
My name is Ryan Cass, and I amyour host.
My purpose in this world is tohelp push people further and
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Let's dig in.
Welcome everybody.
We've got a big time specialthis week.
We've got a return of one of myfavorite episodes with my
mentor, Marcus Collius, and thisis about his book and more so
his brand, Play a Bigger Game,Seven Universal Principles to
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Experience True Fulfillment andWin at Life.
You're gonna see here thatMarcus's energy is absolutely
off the charts.
And as we're getting ready towrap up 2025 and go into 2026,
this is the time where peopleare starting to evaluate the
year and look at what they want2026 to look like.
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And I believe that Marcus is abeacon for what it looks like to
design and live an ideal life,hence why this one is coming
back for a remix as we enter thenew year.
I believe what's going to standout beyond Marcus's energy is
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that a lot of what his life andcareer resembles is taking messy
action.
So you heard in the beginningthat he learns ninety percent of
what he needs to do when he's onthe job or once he's already
committed to something.
And I believe that we can oftenbe waiting for the perfect step,
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the perfect opportunities for X,Y, and Z to take place before we
actually do something.
And then what do we do?
We either don't take action, orat times we wish that we took it
faster, or we regret the factthat we waited so long.
So with that, allow Marcus tohelp positively shape you and
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influence a bigger game, abigger version of you in 2026
and win today.
Thank you.
My favorite thing to understandabout high performers is the
genesis of why they do what theydo.
But first, a simple search onGoogle.
We search your name, we can seethe Guinness World Record, and a
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lot of really cool things.
But I have a sense that ifsomeone asked you who you are,
you would identify yourself bywhat you do to help others.
And that's really what lightsyou up.
What is it that you would saymakes you human, just like the
rest of us?
SPEAKER_02 (03:52):
I love that, brother.
Thank you.
And I really appreciate whatyou're saying because it's the
truth.
What lights me up is not, oh,here's what I got to do in my
life, here's theaccomplishments.
Man, when people read my resume,I'm always like, holy smokes,
are they talking about me?
That's wild.
Uh but what really gets meexcited is helping others
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achieve, helping others achievetheir goals, lifting them up,
aha moments, that just somethingthat broke through to somebody.
So, what really makes me humanis not only how much I want to
help humanity, but where I camefrom.
I think my story is the perfectstory of if this guy can do it,
anybody can do it.
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In my opinion, in my first 15years, there was nothing special
about me.
I didn't have a leg up in anyway.
We were so poor, we were so poorfinancially, spiritually, love,
just broke, broke in every way.
And the fact that I could havetaken that life and turned it
into what it is today, it'sproof that absolutely anybody
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can do anything they choose to.
SPEAKER_00 (05:02):
That's beautiful.
And what you and I share incommon as we were speaking off
camera, and you just mentionedit here, that your first 15
years, if we looked at that,then we may not have predicted
that you'd be where you're attoday.
And I believe that one of themost beautiful things about high
achievers, it's almost for mostof them, it's almost as if the
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troubling times is like aprerequisite to becoming a high
achiever because I have not meta single one that hasn't had
something very deep that hasdriven them.
In those early years, and I'llcall them the formative years.
Did you have this vision ofbecoming who you are today, or
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did it evolve over time?
I remember growing up in thehousehold that I did where there
was the systemic trend ofalcoholism.
I would always spend timeenvisioning, like, all right,
what am I gonna make my life?
And I and I made a promise tomyself early on that I'm not
gonna carry on this trend.
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And I had this vision of helpingpeople and doing something in
the business world, but Icouldn't have painted this exact
picture that exists today.
So, what did that look like foryou?
SPEAKER_02 (06:23):
Brother, you brought up some beautiful things.
Number one, the answer is no.
I had no clue what it was gonnalook like.
All that I cared about was justlike you not being here where I
was anymore.
Just I have to break the curse,all the family curses, all the
systemic garbage that it hasplagued the colleist name.
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I just needed to break it.
That's all I knew.
That's all I cared about.
And uh, so that was big.
Um the other piece that youbrought up that I just want to
talk about that I I just I love.
Um actually, you know what?
I think that one's gonna come upnaturally again in a minute.
So I'm gonna leave that one.
But brother, what I what I lovethat you and I talked about off
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camera was when you said, andthis is one of my favorite lines
that Tony Robbins always talksabout, that life is not
happening to you, it's happeningfor you.
And the people who achieve greatthings in this world, it seems
like they're the ones who'vejust figured that out and not
just heard it, but reallyunderstood it.
And so I know this is happeningfor you, and uh, it happened for
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me.
So I want to I want to make sureanybody listening hears this
right now.
We have so many, so muchgarbage, so much baggage in our
past, and we go, Marcus, this isthe reason why I won't succeed.
This is the reason why, howcould I?
And this is what my friend EdMilette always says, you know,
it's the stuff that we thinkthat disqualifies us, is
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actually the stuff thatqualifies us.
Yes, and it's really what you'retalking about.
This stuff didn't happen to me,it happened for me.
We grew up so poor, so that Iwould learn work ethic, so that
I would have something on, youknow, that you want to call it a
chip on the shoulder.
I'm fine with that.
It was a chip on my shoulderthat said, I will not be this
poor, I will not grow up withthis kind of pain and pass that
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on to my kids.
I will do what it takes.
Being in a house where therewasn't enough love in the house,
that changed me into a manthat's like, when I have my own
house, when I have children,they are gonna receive so much
love.
My wife is gonna receive toomuch love.
That's the kind of man I decidedI was gonna be when I was a
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child.
Now, had I not gone through thatstuff, I can confidently say I
would not be anything like theman I am today.
So, for anyone who hasn't turnedthat corner yet, I just want to
encourage you today.
What if just ask this question?
What if that stuff you think isall your baggage, your garbage,
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the stuff that disqualifies you?
What if it was the biggest giftyou've ever received?
Just try to answer that.
Try to answer how could that betrue?
How could it be a gift?
And don't just get stuck withno, there's no way, there's no
way.
Well, if you're gonna saythere's no way, then you're
right.
There's no way.
Right.
But in any situation, you cansay, well, because of a divorce,
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I I figured out what love wasand I made a decision.
I won't get divorced.
I will do everything I have todo, become who I have to become
to not have divorce.
There's a million ways you canfind the answer to that.
And hey, I'd love to help youwith that.
So reach out to me.
Let me help you with that.
SPEAKER_00 (09:41):
You're living up to what I said at the beginning,
just the epitome of energy.
And I'm getting this hugedopamine hit right now.
Like, if we could have theseconversations all day, every
day, or I feel like we could wecould go for hours right now.
And I also share being a hugefan of Ed Milette, and I love
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what you said.
The things that you believedisqualify you are the things
that actually qualify you.
Yeah.
When I go speak, especially tostudents, and I'll occasionally
take a poll.
How many of you have come from abroken household or in a
household right now that there'ssomething difficult going on,
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some some form of adversity?
SPEAKER_03 (10:25):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:26):
And a lot of hands go up because right around that
age, as as you and I know, rightaround that 15-ish teenage
years, can be the times whereyou're looking at that situation
as the worst, and I tell themeach of you have a gift that you
have no idea how how much thiscan serve you right now if you
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simply start looking at it as agift.
And when you flip the script onany sort of adversity in life,
you will always, always have agift.
You talked in a recent podcastjust on Ed Milette for a minute.
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Meeting the man, the myth, thelegend, interacting with him.
What's that been like?
SPEAKER_02 (11:14):
Uh, so I I think we're talking about when I met
Tony Robbins.
So Tony Robbins, I mean, there'sthere's the king of the castle.
I mean, with all due respect toEd, Ed's my boy.
I love Ed.
Even Ed points to Tony as theman.
And you know what?
I would argue that the next guyon the list, that's Ed.
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And Tony is gonna run out histime.
He's he's moving past a pointwhere, you know, he's ready to
pass that torch soon, and Ed'sgonna be the guy.
Uh, Tony, I've spent the lastyear and a half.
Uh, I've traveled with Tony,I've got to spend so many
amazing hours with Tony.
But Tony actually startedchanging my life 30 years ago.
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I came across Tony's cassettes30 years ago and he put me on a
better path.
And he is the guy who talks likeyou and I are talking, which is
whatever you're going throughright now.
What if you get to see it as agift?
How could you reframe itdifferently?
How can you use it as yoursuperpower?
And that's truly what it is.
You know, this idea, by the way,everybody who's hearing this and
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who isn't quite grasping, youknow, this idea of what uh I
think disqualifies me, it's notjust the stuff that's happened
to you.
It's who you are.
You you fill in this blank withlike, yeah, but I'm not pretty
enough, I'm not skinny enough,I'm not talkative enough, I'm
not extroverted enough.
You fill in all these things.
The argument is, and I fullybelieve this 100% with all of my
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heart, there is only one of you.
You've been made exactly howyou're supposed to be made, how
quiet you are, how tall you are,all of those things.
Now, should you become a betterversion of yourself?
Absolutely.
However, the stuff that you wantto hide away from the world that
you don't want to showcase isusually the stuff that makes you
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unique and special, and that theworld needs you to step into
that because whatever that is,well, yeah, but Marcus, I had
problem with drugs, I hadproblem with alcohol, I had a
problem with pornography.
Well, guess what?
There are literally millions onmillions on millions of other
people who are going through thesame thing who you might only be
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one step ahead of them and theycould learn so much from you, or
you're 10 steps ahead of them,and you could radically change
their life.
But if you're gonna hide awayand go, well, no, not this,
though.
This is too embarrassing.
This is what this is whatdisqualifies me, you're missing
the chance to serve so manypeople and change so many lives.
SPEAKER_00 (13:49):
I love that you brought up Tony Robbins and
corrected me on that.
I thought that I had heard on apod that you were maybe gonna
meet Ed Milette, but yes, thatit is it is out there that you
are a disciple of Mr.
Robbins and I love him.
And the goal board you'relooking at right behind me, when
I decided to make the shift inmy life and again carry carry on
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that promise that I'm not gonnabe the next one.
I started researching peoplelike Tony and I read about
everything I could about Tony.
I was like, what is it thatmakes this guy so successful?
What's the secret sauce?
What's is it is it anythingcomplex?
And then I discovered, oh well,he writes his he writes his
goals down and makes thingsclear.
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I was like, okay, well, if Tonydoes that, let me give it a
shot.
Yeah.
And I would say that, yeah, Tonyhas made a massive impact on my
life now for over 14 years.
And I believe that one of themost profound things about
impact in this world is thatpeople think, man, Marcus,
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you've you've you've touched 10million lives, and man, I just I
maybe maybe if I wait a littlebit longer, then I can launch
that thing and and launch andthen I'll impact X amount of
lives.
And making an impact in thisworld really starts with just
helping one person.
We never really know the impactwe're gonna have.
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You've met Tony Robbins, Ihaven't, but Tony Robbins has
said is has impacted my life.
You know, talk through the powerof impacting just one life
because I think so many peoplestop themselves thinking, ah, I
I need to I need to wait until Ican help the masses before I do
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anything.
SPEAKER_02 (15:40):
Oh, yeah, that that is truly human psychology right
now.
Like, let me become a I gottajust I can't keep working on me
for a long time before I stepoutside.
But you're so right.
You impact one person and youdon't know who that's supposed
to be.
So you gotta go outside.
You gotta that person's gonna bedrawn to you, who you are today.
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And that one life that youimpact can have a ripple effect
that you could never know.
You could never know how manylives that person could change.
And you should still feelchallenged to become the best
version of yourself.
But my number one tip in life isto start taking action today.
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Don't wait for tomorrow.
The opportunities of today mightbe gone tomorrow.
The opportunities today are theopportunities that you're
supposed to step into.
And there is so much you willlearn once you start taking
action.
I can't more highly recommendyou just start putting one foot
in front of the other.
One of the things I teach peopleconstantly, especially
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entrepreneurs, is that I willlearn 90% of what I need to know
on the path.
That means at most I can learn10 pieces 10% before I start.
So I have to start walking.
And you won't believe howquickly you're gonna go, oh my
goodness, this is not the rightpath.
I'm just gonna, I gotta deviate.
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But you wouldn't know it untilyou start moving.
Like any path, you start goingdown and you're not going down
the wide road.
You're going into the bush andyou hack through some of the
bush, and all of a sudden you'relike, wow, this is not where I
wanted to be going.
You hack through another part,and you're like, oh man, look at
the gold mine that's behind thisone, and you start moving
forward on that.
And the fact that you're takingaction will fill you up in ways
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that only action can fill youup.
That growth, this is part of thelife journey that is so critical
that not enough people aretalking about.
It's the growth that Iexperience every day and it
gives me so much energy, thatgives me so much fulfillment,
allows me to make impact on somany people's lives because
people just see me and they'relike, this guy is changing, this
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guy's doing stuff.
It's not because I dounbelievable things every single
day.
I wish that was the case, andI'm sure one day maybe it will
be.
But the fact that I just changea little bit, 1% every single
day, that's what people takenotice of.
So make your move.
Take some action today, become a1% better version of who you
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were yesterday, that is going toadd up so dramatically.
And in a year, you will be adifferent human being.
SPEAKER_00 (18:23):
Absolutely.
This makes me think of Iinterviewed the founder and CEO
of Spartan, uh, Joe DeSena.
Yeah.
And one thing that he said thatreally stood out is you know,
the antiquated approach of readyaim fire, where that originated
was back in the old war dayswhere you had to load the musket
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with black powder, and youreally had to think through
before taking your shot becausewe didn't have these weapons
that we could that we couldreload.
And not to make this adiscussion about war, but the
approach, we say, ready, aim,fire.
Joe said, No, no, no, no.
Fire, ready, aim.
Because we live in a worldtoday, especially with the
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technology that we have at ourfingertips.
We could take a thousand badshots.
Yes.
So good.
And go reload and go do the nextone and keep going because
eventually you're gonna hit thattarget.
Now, I believe there is somesome prep work, you don't want
to go into anything totallyblind, but picking up picking a
bit of what you said there,Marcus, that you focus on growth
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every day.
And what I heard is youincorporate intentional growth
into your day.
I'm curious as to what thatlooks like.
How have you how do youmanufacture growth into your
day-to-day?
SPEAKER_02 (19:48):
Brilliant question.
So, in many ways, let's startwith habits.
You have to put habits into yourlife, you have to make this
stuff part of your everyday.
If it's not a habit, you'regonna go weeks and you're gonna
go, oh shoot, I haven't doneanything for growth lately.
It's such a key part of my life,and it is a critical part of
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success.
Any successful person you comeacross, this is the probably one
of the number one things you'regonna find that they have in
common is we create habits andand we dump bad habits that are
gonna hold us back.
So, for me personally, there's afew things that I'm going to
grow every single day for therest of my life.
One is in my health.
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So, what do I have to do toimprove my health every single
day?
Well, I gotta get some exercise.
And by the way, for anybodywho's like, this is the only
type of exercise, let me helpyou turn that person off.
Don't listen to that person everagain.
They're just trying to get yourattention on social media.
There are a billion ways to getyour exercise in.
Yeah, some are gonna be more uhbeneficial than others, but
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what's most important is thatyou get some exercise in.
Get your body moving.
We are designed to move.
All the bad stuff in life comesfrom us being sedentary.
So get moving every single day.
So I get my workouts in.
Plus, what am I consuming?
What data am I putting into mymouth?
I look at food as data.
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What is it telling my body?
What is it telling my mind?
The food that I consume, I'mtelling my body and mind, I'm
freaking Michael Jordan.
You better be ready to dominatethis world.
I need to show up as a 10 out of10 every day, or I'm missing
opportunities to impact lives.
So when I eat, I'm eating sothat my body's going to be at
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its best.
My mind's going to be at itsbest.
My digestion, my energy, allthese things are critical.
And then the most simple way tomanufacture it, start listening
to more podcasts, start readingmore books.
And if you don't like reading, Iknow there's so many people
like, ah, reading.
Audible books are awesome.
And if you are on Amazon Prime,you get a free book every single
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month.
Like, there's no excuses here,people.
If you have 20 minutes a day inthe car, you can be listening to
a book.
You will read a book every weekto two weeks.
That's massive.
As opposed to just listening tomusic or talk radio or other
garbage that doesn't benefityou.
It's just entertainment value,which I get.
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There's a point.
Hey, you need some entertainmentvalue.
But my quickest argument wouldbe oh, you really need that one?
Just out of curiosity, how muchNetflix do you consume every
day?
I don't think anybody needs sixhours of entertainment value
every day.
So you can drop 20 minutes, giveme 20 minutes of a book, and now
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you're gonna start to changeyour life.
SPEAKER_00 (22:43):
I listened to you on a podcast recently with Josh
Cadillac, and he asked you aninteresting question about what
do you believe is the biggestopportunity in the market right
now?
And your response was rightalong those lines that it is
fairly easy to stand out in theworld today because the majority
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of people are consumingnon-value added information.
SPEAKER_03 (23:10):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (23:10):
And even if you commit to 20 minutes, as you
said, of consuming valuableinformation, whether it's an
audible book or a podcast, anddoing that every day or almost
every day, you're going to setyourself so far ahead of the
majority of the pack, and it'sand it's not rocket science.
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And here's what I want to knowis you said you need to show up
as a 10 out of 10 every day.
And I love that.
Now, you and I are humans, I'dbe willing to bet there's days
where internally you feel like atwo out of ten.
Maybe a three, maybe a one outof ten, maybe a zero out of ten.
But I also am willing to betthat that doesn't matter because
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you're gonna push past that.
So on the days that you feellike a two, but the standard is
a ten, what do you do to bridgethat gap?
SPEAKER_02 (24:06):
Oh, fantastic question.
And I want to come back to theopportunity thing in a moment,
but this idea of not feelingperfect every day, yeah,
nobody's gonna feel perfectevery day.
So make sure you listen to that,everybody.
This is not about uh no, no, no,now it's 10 out of 10 every day.
No, it doesn't work like that.
We're human, stuff happens, butyou know what's wild?
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Out of 365 days a year, if youwere to have 50 crummy days, 50
days where you didn't show up atyour best, do you know what that
would look like on a scorecard?
You'd still have an A.
That's 50 days.
So you can give yourself somegrace.
Now, I'm not saying I take those50 days off.
Some of those days, I givemyself the grace to go, you know
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what?
I am going to rest today becauseclearly my body needs some rest.
But more often than not, if I'mwaking up and I'm not feeling my
best, then I'm just a little bitoff.
So if I'm being honest with you,I don't experience twos and
threes anymore, which is reallynice because my average is so
high, it's brought up my averageeven for my crappy days.
So to me, when I'm feeling likea six or seven, it feels like a
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one or two because I'm used to10.
So on that six or seven days,that is when I challenge myself.
Because listen, anybody can havean unbelievable stellar day if
you're waking up a 10 out of 10.
Oh, I got the energy, I gotthis.
Okay, is there a story to tellthere?
There really isn't.
But the guy who felt like a sixor seven or a one or two, but
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then performed at a 10.
Now there's a story, there's amemory.
So one of my favorite things todo when people are like, but
Marcus, I don't feel likeworking out all the time.
What do what do you do?
Okay, so on those days when I'mlike, today is just not the day
for working out, that's when Igo, all right, Marcus, let's go,
buddy.
This is the day.
Show me what you're made of.
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Set a new record, set a newstandard, tell a story.
Make sure you're doing somethingso that you have a story to tell
later.
Those are my favorite workoutsbecause I push and I push and I
have to find new gears.
I'm like, bro, you gotta findsome more heart.
There has to be more heart inthere.
And when I push and I actuallyset a PR on that day, bro,
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that's a story to tell.
And now I go, man, I am afreaking animal.
I thought this was my level.
I'm actually up here, bro.
This is not arrogance speaking.
This is confidence buildingevery day in who I am and who
I'm going to be tomorrow, sothat I can show up tomorrow
going, man.
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I know what I did yesterday.
I don't even have to tell thestory.
I'm telling the story to myself.
And it's a reminder.
We need these stories, by theway.
We all have so many stories.
If you said, hey, Ryan, why areyou a failure?
Why might you fail in life?
We've all got those stories.
Oh, well, let me tell you, man.
I did this, this, this, andthis.
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Ah, what a piece of crap.
We've all got those stories.
So, how about building somestories on the other side?
Marcus, why are you gonna wintoday?
You know what?
Yesterday I didn't feel like awinner and I freaking dominated.
I got a PR, I put in the work, Ishowed up.
Today I'm gonna succeed becauseof boom, boom, boom, boom.
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Give yourself the argument.
Whatever you focus on, that iswhat is going to happen.
So if you focus on I'm probablygonna lose today, yeah, my bet
is you're gonna lose today.
If you walk in going, I'm gonnawin today for these reasons,
I'll put money on you.
SPEAKER_00 (27:44):
Man, look at that.
You're making me want to jumpthrough the screen and give you
a hug.
No, go back.
You mentioned that I'll ask youthe same question as it that I
heard you say on Josh's podcast.
Yes.
What do you see as the biggestopportunity out in the market
today?
SPEAKER_02 (28:00):
Yeah, so listen, you already covered part of it, but
I'm gonna give you a slightlydifferent answer.
So, number one, I truly believethis is the easiest time in
history to stand out, like byfar.
Because most people, and when Isay most, I'm not talking six
out of ten people.
I truly believe 99 out of 100people are asleep.
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They are sleepwalking throughtheir days.
Their idea of success is justmaking it through today.
If you are 1% more ambitiousthan that, you will stand out.
Now imagine if every day you puta little effort into that
ambition, you try to improveyourself a little bit every
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single day, you will stand outso fast.
As somebody who has owned morethan 25 companies, I can tell
you when I'm speaking to someonewho I'm gonna hire, I'm gonna
fire, I'm gonna promote, I'mgonna give a raise to.
It to me, it's black and white.
It is really simple.
The conversation goes like this.
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Well, I've done the average ofwhat you uh uh asked me to do,
so I'd like money.
Easy no.
Thank you so much.
Have a good day.
Or, hey, you told me to do this,this, and this.
Not only did I do those things,but I did this, this, and this.
And here's where I see myselfgoing over the next few years.
I'm like, there's your money.
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Easy peasy.
But now, here's the other way Iwant to answer this question.
Right now, has a whole other setof opportunities for you in a
downed economy where people aresure it's gonna get worse, and
they're probably right.
99.9% of people are living infear.
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And what happens when peoplelive in fear?
They make really bad decisionsand they batten down the hatches
and they hide and theyhibernate.
If you can just stay clear ofall the fear and try and have an
abundance mindset.
Now, it's not just Words, thisstuff takes time, this stuff
takes work.
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I'm happy to work with you onit.
And there's many different waysyou can build that abundance
mindset.
But if you can do that, you canchange the world.
Because 99% of everybody else isnot doing this.
You are going this way, you willstand out.
Some of the greatest history,uh, sorry, some of the greatest
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businesses in history.
Most of the greatest businessesin history were started during
the worst economic times.
And I'll tell you just realquick why that is, because I
don't know, yeah, but what theheck am I supposed to do?
Bad times about, hey, hey, hey.
Remember, we're not doing feartalk.
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We're going to talk abundance.
Here's why.
If you are a big establishedcompany right now and the and
the world is tanking, it'sreally hard for those big
companies to turn.
They're so set in their ways.
Now a new company comes duringthis very tough time.
They can make moves in thistough time to get far ahead, to
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stand out.
You can do it.
Just start with the rightmindset and take some action.
SPEAKER_00 (31:16):
You talked about reading books, and that's one
way to experience this abundancemindset.
And as you were saying that,specifically with the company,
some of the greatest companiestoday we know started in the
darkest of times.
Yes.
I just finished reading TheObstacle is the way by Ryan
Holliday.
Love Ryan Holiday.
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That is a book that I willrecommend to everyone because
what I'm hearing you say thereis even the aren't really
obstacles.
They are they are those are thethose are the qualifiers, those
are the gifts just being thrownright at you.
And if and if and if people whenpeople can simply shift their
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vision a little bit, and whichtakes time and training and a
lot of rewiring and a lot ofprogramming in the brain, which
is available to anybody.
Yes.
Is it fair to say you don'tbelieve that bad times exist?
SPEAKER_02 (32:11):
Oh, Ryan, this is really good.
This is really good.
That's a tough way, it's a toughquestion to answer.
The truth is, I believe at somepoint you will look at any time
in your life and say that wasnot a bad time.
I don't know if I want to be asbold as say bad times don't
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exist, only because I'm worriedthat people who are still at
level one are just gonna nowshut us out.
They'll go, ah, these guys arejust they're such Looney Tunes.
What are you talking about?
If you knew what I'm goingthrough right now, you wouldn't
say bad days don't exist.
I I would agree with what yourprinciple is, which is man, at
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some point we're gonna look backat that.
Like, look at COVID.
COVID was such a horrific timein the beginning of COVID, for
sure, the scariest, mostchallenging times in business
for me and for everyone else.
However, you'll talk to mostbusiness people who are still
around, who are doing well,saying COVID was kind of
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awesome.
Like, uh with all due respect, II I wouldn't wish it again.
I don't, I wish all those peopledidn't die, I wish all the
mental health didn't uh problemsdidn't happen.
So none of that.
But as far as for business goes,where I was freaked out the
most, it was phenomenal.
So if we could just learn to seethat the obstacle is the way,
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and when an obstacle is in frontof us, to not go, ah, this is so
scary and what am I gonna do?
But we went, hey, this is anopportunity, this is an
opportunity to grow.
One of my favorite analogies isjust to break it down into our
school years.
How did you get into grade six?
Well, you had to go through thetests of grade five.
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If you don't pass those tests,if you are just like, no, tests,
I can't do it, no, well, guesswhat you're doing next year?
Still in grade five.
But if you can go, it's okay.
I these tests, these challengesare supposed to be in front of
me, so I can get to grade six.
So when I see that challengecoming at me, I don't go, oh no,
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no.
I go, yes, awesome.
I'm about to go to the nextgrade.
This is amazing.
And hey, if the challenge ishard enough, I might skip a
grade or two.
Awesome! And think if you havethat kind of attitude, not only
are you gonna get through it,but you're gonna get through it
with better ideas.
You come up with way betterideas if you're this guy going,
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yeah, I can do this, I can dothis, versus, ha ha ha ha,
please, no.
SPEAKER_00 (34:50):
Perhaps a better way, as you were saying that, I
was thinking through it.
Like, how would I answer thatquestion?
And perhaps it's not that badseasons don't exist or bad times
don't exist, but life is full ofseasons, good and not so good,
or perhaps great and difficult,but all seasons deliver.
(35:11):
Oh, really?
The good times deliver plenty ofgreat things, and uh the rough
times also deliver, and maybenot immediately, but you'll be
able to see them later in thefuture.
And when I run, man, I wasthinking about you when I was
running this morning.
Like my my dopamine hit in themorning, especially being a
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marathoner and getting ready forBoston here in 40 and 40 days,
39 days.
You know, there's times where Ijust put my arms out wide like
this, Marcus, and like, man, I'mI'm I'm grateful for this day.
And but in specifically what Isay is, man, I'm grateful for
the for the good times, and I'mgrateful for the for the tough
(35:54):
times.
I'm grateful for the good timesto come, and I'm grateful for
the tough times to come.
Because it's not that I wish forthe tough times to come, but I
understand that those toughmoments are eventually, if not
immediately, gonna give me justas much as those good moments.
Because it's the tough momentsthat have you and I here talking
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today.
SPEAKER_02 (36:16):
This is so beautiful, Ryan.
You are on such a beautifulpath, brother.
I I'll put money on you becomingsomebody absolutely spectacular.
Not that you aren't already, andyou are gonna impact a lot of
lives, man.
This is the mindset, this iswhat we're talking about.
I want to add one more pointbecause it's something you and I
are kind of dancing around whenwe're talking about all these
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tough times.
I think one of the words that weshould really talk about here is
acceptance.
And I this is a big differencefrom the people who see
something, uh, some sort ofchallenge in front of us, and
they go the right way or they gothe wrong way, and it's
acceptance.
So the people who go the rightway are the ones who go, yeah,
this is a challenging time, butit is what it is.
(37:00):
Let's find out a solution.
But 99 out of 100 people go, ah,this is too difficult of a time.
This isn't right, this shouldn'tbe happening.
No, I can't accept this.
So, this idea of acceptance,everybody, it doesn't mean you
have to agree with it.
So, this also absolutelypertains to the baggage that
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you're carrying with your life.
Most people can't move on fromit because they don't accept it.
So, no matter what has happenedto you, you need to accept it.
Again, you don't have to agreewith it.
You don't have to go, oh yeah,it's so great that my parents
divorced.
Oh, yeah, it's so great thatthis trauma happened to me.
But if you can say, Yeah, ithappened to me, and now what am
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I gonna do about it?
You are gonna free yourself togrow to become the person you're
supposed to become.
So just accepting it, going,This is where we're at.
This is the reality of thesituation.
SPEAKER_00 (38:01):
Now what?
Amen, brother.
We're talking through thingsthat are in your book.
You're a newly minted author,play a bigger game.
What are let's cover one of theseven principles that are in the
book.
What's the one that you know?
If if if folks only read thisone principle and and and I want
(38:23):
you to read all seven, folks,but if they if they just skip
the one, which one would youwant them to see?
SPEAKER_02 (38:29):
Oh man, that's it.
That's really tough.
That is like having sevenchildren and being like, you get
to save one, which one?
Uh I I think I'm gonna reach forchoice.
I'm such a big believer inchoice, and choice changed my
life.
So the principle around choiceis this if you can learn to
recognize that absolutelyeverything that's happening in
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your life is your choice, thatcan change your world
dramatically.
Now, of course, you're rightaway.
The the skeptics are like, whatare you talking about?
I didn't choose to have that caraccident, I didn't choose to
have this trauma, I didn'tchoose this or that.
(39:12):
Okay.
If I'm right, what if?
Just answer me that question.
What if I'm right?
And what if it was a choice?
How could you peel it back to achoice?
What would that look like?
So much of what we have going onin our lives, it's like, well,
okay, my health is failing.
(39:32):
I guess 10 years ago I couldhave started eating healthier
and exercising.
Okay, there's one choice, that'sawesome.
And of course, my next questionwill be well, what would you
like to do for the next 10years?
If that was a choice that youcould have made, what if it's
not too late?
What if you made that choicetoday?
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Now, what if you looked intoevery single aspect of your life
and said, How can it be truehere?
What you're gonna find is choiceafter choice after choice that
can change everything today, andthat really excites me.
And my life has been puttingthis into practice.
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I am just a product of theseprinciples, and how I live in
this, whenever I face anything,I go, what choice led me here?
What choice can get me out ofthis?
SPEAKER_00 (40:30):
You know, as I was listening to you and getting
ready, and again, just I'm gonnacompliment your energy and your
radiance again, because it'sit's here now that I get to
experience it live.
Man, I wish that a lot of peopleget to experience this
conversation and pick up thebook.
(40:51):
And on the principle of choice,I've said for a while now that
you know how we choose to showup every day, and even I just
said it right there, but how weshow up every day.
Every day we wake up, every dayyou wake up, any every day that
someone listening wakes up, youhave a choice to make on how
you're going to show up.
(41:12):
I believe it's easy to wake up,let's say it's raining outside,
or you had a flat tire, the dogthrew up, the kids are
screaming.
You have a choice in thosemoments.
Okay.
This non-ideal event isoccurring right now.
But you can still choose.
(41:33):
You know what?
I'm gonna choose to come to thisconversation with Marcus and and
be joyful.
Yeah, and I'm gonna choose to goto the office today and and
smile and be happy.
And that's the the conversationI usually have with myself in
the mornings, that even ifsomething again, going back to
the to what we said, goodseasons, bad seasons, there's
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days that things aren't going sohot, but I still tell myself,
all right, Ryan, you have achoice right now before you even
go into the office, how you'regoing to show up for people.
SPEAKER_02 (42:06):
Talk through, talk through, talk through that a
little bit more, man.
Oh, please.
I love this, Ryan.
That that is the mindset rightthere.
Everybody, rewind it back threeminutes to go over this again.
You have the choice every day onhow you show up to this world.
Now, part of what work I doevery single day on myself and
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the people that I spend my timewith, the people who I work
with, the people at performancecoach, the people in my
mastermind, I work on thisfactor every day.
And one of the thoughts I wantto put in people's heads is what
if you showed up every day asyour best self?
How much bigger of an impactwould you make on all the lives
all around?
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Who would you be saving?
Who would you be changing justby showing up as your best self?
Now, I want to tell you the nextlevel of thinking here, which
really excites me because thisis the stuff I was learning as I
was growing up and I was growinginto this.
I was like, yeah, I want to showup as my best self.
(43:08):
But Ryan, you and I have alreadytalked about, oh man, but
there's so many things that aregonna fight me every day from
showing up as my best self.
What if I could put in a wholebunch of habits that made it so
it wasn't even a choice anymore?
Like, let me pre-make the choiceso that I'm going to have an
amazing day.
And on the flip side, whathabits can I take out of my life
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that made it more likely that Iwas gonna have crappy stuff
happen?
If you apply that principle,your world, it's inevitable.
It's inevitable what's gonnahappen.
Success leaves clues.
One plus one equals two everysingle time.
If you do this consistently, youwill get this result.
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So I'm gonna give you somereally quick ones.
So really quick, actionableitems.
Try them immediately.
Every night before I go to bed,my next morning is already laid
out.
I know everything that's gonnahappen in the morning.
So there's no choice.
When I wake up, my clothes formy cardio session are already
picked out.
Because you know what?
(44:14):
When you wake up, what should Iput on today?
That becomes such a biggerdecision than it needs to be.
Uh, should I wear this or this?
And all of a sudden you're 15,20 minutes in.
But guess what happened in those15 to 20 minutes?
You also checked your phone.
Ah, crap.
I got okay.
Give me a minute.
I'm gonna just I got two emails.
Ah, no, oh, social media, oh no.
What an hour went by?
(44:36):
Now I can't even do my card.
Oh no! No, no, no, no, no.
My clothes are already there, mywater bottles are already ready.
I am on my treadmill within sixminutes of waking up.
And I've just made a couple ofchoices and I've ordered some
things.
It's gonna take that down tofour minutes.
That's how serious I am aboutgetting on that treadmill.
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On that treadmill, I am incardio mode.
I'm getting blood flowing, I'mgetting clarity happening, I'm
in prayer, I'm in gratitude forall the amazing things all
around me.
And one of the most importantthings, I have not looked up my
phone.
I am not letting my phonedictate the kind of day I'm
gonna have.
There is no good news on yourphone in the morning.
(45:18):
So why are we checking it firstthing before we're prepared?
Before you've put on your armor,you've already let some weapons
stab you.
Don't do that.
Make a commitment to say this ishow long it is before I'll check
my emails, before I'll checksocial media, before I do any of
that stuff.
You have to make that commitmentand you have to stay, you have
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to say this is a non-negotiable.
And you do that every day.
You won't believe how quicklyyou transformed.
Now, because I've got my cardioin, because I've had my time in
gratitude, my time in prayer, Iam so focused and ready for what
comes at me.
So now when I check my phone,I'm ready.
I will be dictating the day Ihave, not the phone.
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What a difference.
Look at that.
That that was less than 30minutes, less than 30 minutes
into the day, and I am preparedto have a way better day than
what I could have had.
SPEAKER_00 (46:10):
Look at that.
Winning today started yesterday.
Yes.
And for people that arelistening right now, if you want
to win tomorrow, it startstoday, tonight, this morning,
right now, right in thisinstant.
The last thing I do every day,two things.
Before I leave the office, Ialways print my calendar for the
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next day.
And then I write down what arethe three things that I'm gonna
do tomorrow.
So when I get in the officetomorrow, I'm not oh scratching
my head.
Because here's the thing, here'sthe principle that I have for
life, personal and professional,eliminate guesswork.
How do you eliminate guesswork?
Write down what you want, builda plan, lay out your clothes the
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night before, just like yousaid.
I come downstairs every day, thefirst thing I see is that goal
board.
There's never a uh what am Iwhat does 2024 success look
like?
It's right there.
And it's the most simple thing.
And everything you said, Marcus.
Yes, it requires a choice, butit is simple.
It requires no calculations,nothing.
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We have choice.
One more principle.
One more principle.
Pick one more, pick one morebecause I want people to
actually get the book anddissect all seven of them
themselves.
But if we get a little sneakpeek of one more principle, I
love it.
SPEAKER_02 (47:31):
You know what?
I'm gonna choose one that tiesinto choice because and it ties
into everything that we've beentalking about.
It's integrity.
Integrity is a word.
I love talking about it.
It's uh it's almost anold-fashioned word now because
people don't use it enough.
Integrity has so many meanings,but the one I want to focus on
is are you being the person thatyou want to be?
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Are you being the person thatyou're supposed to be?
Are you being your authenticyou?
And I mean all the wayauthentic.
And part of what integrity meansis there are some conditions,
there are some rules that youneed to start reapplying to your
life.
We've we've allowed ourintegrity to slide in ways that
we had no idea we were doing it.
So I'll tell you one of thefirst ones every single day
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where people break theirintegrity and it changes the
course of their day.
And it's usually about threeseconds into waking up.
They hit the snooze button.
The snooze button is the firstchance to prove that you're a
person of integrity.
By hitting that snooze button,you've broken the first
agreement that you made for theday.
You said you were gonna wake upat this time and you didn't.
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You said, Ah, you know what?
All agreements are negotiable.
Here's what happens the rest ofthe day.
Your subconscious all day, whenyou say, Hey, I said I was gonna
eat healthy today, yoursubconscious goes, Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
But uh, remember everything's upfor negotiation.
Remember the snooze button thismorning?
You're it's not a big deal.
Oh, we're gonna go to the gym.
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There's so much going on.
Do we have to go to the gym?
You've already slid.
Now, I'm not saying this toguilt you.
Please, people hear this as aman who loves so much.
I love you so much.
I don't care if I don't knowyou.
I have so much love and so muchmercy for this human condition.
This is not coming from a placeof this is why I think you're a
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bad person.
Furthest thing from it.
This is actually the reason Ilove you.
I love you because you arefacing the same decisions
everyone else is making.
And unfortunately, by theseissues that we just let slide
every single day, and it and ithas molded us into the people we
don't want to be.
So, all I'm trying to do is drawyour attention to it to go, what
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if tomorrow you said, here'swhat time I'm gonna wake up, and
then you wake up.
What's so beautiful about that?
You now have this the rest ofthe day to look at to go, hey,
remember that contract I madethis morning?
I I did it.
I said I'd wake up then.
My yes means yes, my no meansno.
I am a person of integrity.
There's my proof.
(50:06):
And all day you can look atthat.
And by the way, just in casethat wasn't enough information
for you on the snooze button,the snooze button is actually
called the dream killer for areason.
It ruins your sleep so bad.
It disrupts your REM cycles, itdisrupts your sleep cycles, it
screws you up.
So do not think you're doingyourself a favor, you're not.
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It feels good only in the idealike I have control over this,
I'll take 10 more minutes ofsleep.
Take the control the nightbefore, set the alarm for when
you want to set it for now.
Be in control of your integrity.
That is gonna make it for aspecial day.
SPEAKER_00 (50:48):
And that's powerful.
And if we go back to thescoreboard we talked about,
there's an easy way to put a winon the scoreboard within not
even a minute, not even oneminute, you can start racking up
that scoreboard.
And then you you put on theclothes that you laid out the
night before, now we're up twoto zero.
(51:08):
You make the bed, now we're upthree to zero.
You do your workout, we're upfour to zero.
It's like there's so many littlethings we can do every day that
then let's say something doesn'tgo our way that day, or maybe
even a couple things.
I highly doubt that let's justsay you build in 10 to 15 small
wins and you go for your walk.
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Man, if the score is like thebad things have to go against a
10-0, 10 to 0, man, I highlydoubt that that's right, uh,
you're gonna lose many days.
SPEAKER_02 (51:40):
Oh man, will you guys have the brilliance of what
Brian is talking about?
This is how successful peopletalk and think.
But most of us overlook.
Uh, it wasn't that big of adeal.
I just did this.
I just it is a big deal.
Put it on the scoreboard becauseyou are 10 and oh, 15 and oh
before you even started yourday.
(52:01):
And yeah, one bad thing at it,who cares?
It's 15 to 1.
SPEAKER_00 (52:04):
I'm killing this dick.
So look at that.
Here's here's a real liveexample, folks.
That Marcus and I have just beenracking up wins in this
conversation.
We're I think the score might be100 to zero.
And your internet went out.
Here you are, you're back again.
Dude, we're up 100 to 1.
SPEAKER_02 (52:23):
Doesn't even phase us.
Doesn't even phase it.
I love it, brother.
Dude, that that that idea ofkeeping that scoreboard, that is
life-changing stuff.
So if you guys get nothing elsefrom this today, take that.
Keep a scoreboard, keep itrunning all day long.
And just make sure you feedthose wins.
You can keep feeding it, eventhe little stuff.
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And if you feel like you'reslipping behind in the score,
just do something that's a win.
Go for a little walk and go, youknow what?
I took some time to myself.
Uh, say some gratitude thoughtsfor two minutes.
There's a win.
Eat something healthy, there's awin.
Easy to get your score padded,you're gonna win.
If you do those things everysingle day, think of how that
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compounds.
How do you think that is notgonna turn into a successful
life?
SPEAKER_00 (53:09):
100%.
Amen.
Amen, brother.
Now, I want to go back on onething.
We talked about what it would belike if you showed up as your
best self, your most authenticself every day.
Some people may be questioning,I don't know what my best self
does it mean.
What does it mean to be my bestself?
(53:31):
I don't know what that lookslike.
What type of inventory orquestions should people ask
themselves to arrive at thatself-discovery?
You know what?
All right, this is the bestMarcus.
This is the best Ryan.
How do we clearly identify whatthat really means, showing up as
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our best selves?
SPEAKER_02 (53:54):
What a brilliant question, legit, brother.
You are you're really good atwhat you do, man.
I I'm honored to be on the uhreceiving end of these
questions.
This is a great question becauseI think there's tons of people
who are like, I don'tnecessarily know, I wouldn't say
I'm my most authentic self.
How do I figure that out?
Absolutely, it's a process.
(54:14):
I will give you a few questionsto start you off, but just
please know that it's not justlike two questions, you answer
them and boom, oh, I don't feelit.
Therefore, I'm gonna stop.
You have to look at it as like ajourney.
And like any other journey inlife, if you want to start
getting healthy and you're like,okay, so I'm gonna go work out.
You do one workout.
Did you change your body?
(54:34):
Did you change your healthradically?
No, it's not about one workout,but it starts with one.
So, a couple key questions toask.
Number one, to find out yourauthentic self, start
recognizing that the answers areinside of you.
And here's what I mean (54:50):
what are the things in your life that
really light you up?
Like really get you excited.
Like, if someone were to pay meto do that all day, I would be
the happiest human on theplanet.
Okay, that's who you weredesigned to be.
Now, there might be multipleanswers, or there might not be
(55:12):
one answer that you're like, Idon't think there's one thing.
That's okay.
Again, this is a process.
Try and write down 10 thingsthat even interest you a little
bit, and then try and filterthat down.
Now that I've written down 10,actually, you know what?
These three really get meexcited.
Awesome.
See how you're starting tofigure out what who you are
authentically?
Now, on the flip side, anothergreat question to ask, it's a
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negative question.
What things really piss you off?
And I don't mean like, well,when someone cuts me off in
traffic.
No, no, no.
I mean that piss you off to thecore.
It's like an injustice.
Oof, when people don't recycle,it pisses me off.
When people abuse children infront of me, it pisses me off.
(55:56):
That's the kind of thing thatI'm talking about.
Again, that is unique to you.
Of course, there's universalthings that upset us all, but
when something you might go, ohman, sex trafficking to my core,
it upsets me so much.
Yeah, sex trafficking, I thinkeverybody would agree is bad.
But some people are like, yeah,it's bad, but I'm not gonna do
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anything about it.
Sex trafficking is one of thosethings that pisses me off to the
core.
So I am surrounding myself withother people who are daily
saving people from the sextrade.
That excites me.
And the more stuff that I do inthat space, the more I get to be
authentically me.
Why?
Because I see something thatupsets me to the core, and I'm
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doing something about it.
One of the worst things thatwe've done as a human race is we
see things that piss us off.
We see things that light us up.
SPEAKER_01 (56:52):
But I'm gonna just spend a couple more hours in
front of Netflix before I thinkabout doing anything else.
SPEAKER_02 (56:58):
So take those actions, take some action on
something.
First, write it down and thenstart to explore it.
Do something about it, listen toa podcast on the subject, spend
some time with a small group whoalso feels that way.
There's so many chatrooms aboutthis stuff.
You watch how quickly you startto develop a different sense of
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who you are, and you go, I'mactually feeling more energy.
Yeah, you will, because the moreyou walk into your authentic
self, the more energy you have.
Because this is who you'resupposed to be.
It feels right, it feelsaligned.
And the more in alignment youare, the more opportunities are
gonna come to you.
Why?
Because you're gonna attract theright people, you're gonna repel
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the wrong people.
It's wild how we put off thisenergy.
And I'm not just talking aboutenergy like, oh yeah, you know,
the earth is gonna blah, blah,blah.
No, no, no, no.
I do believe in this stuff.
It's really easy.
If I love working out, oh, Ilove it so much.
Who do you think is attracted tome?
Other people who like workingout or the people who hate
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working out?
Of course it's the people wholike working out.
And all of a sudden now we'regetting around each other.
And guess what happens when youput two of us together?
Ooh, the energy gets evencrazier.
But we're not doing that.
Because we're avoiding being ourauthentic selves, we're avoiding
being the person who this planetneeds us to be.
Everything feels like it's anuphill battle.
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Everything feels uncomfortable.
And I love the way that that'sdesigned.
That discomfort should piss youoff enough to make you get up
and do something about it rightnow.
SPEAKER_00 (58:40):
Right now.
Amen.
I love that you mentioned thatthe answers are already inside
of you, that you have theanswers.
We have the answers.
Marcus, our conversationembodies this, but to define it,
now you have a community, play abigger game.
Title of the book, play a biggergame.
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If you had to define what doesit mean to play a bigger game,
or what does someone that playsa big game in life look like?
Just to paint a picture aroundit.
SPEAKER_02 (59:11):
That's really beautiful, brother.
How'd you do that?
Beautiful lead up, by the way.
Uh, you know, I think it's kindof the the easiest way for me to
say it is it's the opposite ofwhat most people are doing.
Most people are playing a verycontent small game.
It's comfortable.
Uh, I get food delivered rightto my couch.
I spend a lot of time on thecouch.
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And again, people, please.
I'm not blasting anybody, I'mnot condemning anybody, but I am
calling it like I see it.
And if you feel convicted bywhat I'm saying, that's you.
Your authentic you is going,he's talking to us.
Let's listen up.
How do we play this bigger game?
It's about just taking action sothat you can do the things that
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you are designed to do and thatyou want to do.
That want, that need.
Need that you have that's howyou are designed.
You don't need to fight it, justdo something about it.
When you take action, it feelsso good.
You're taking control.
When you don't take control,you're giving control to others.
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And there are a billioncompanies right now who are
happy to take your control,they're happy to take the keys
to your cuffs and lock you upfor life.
I'm the person going, I want toset you free.
I want you to become theauthentic you.
Not only are you gonnaexperience success in every area
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of your life, but you're goingto enjoy your life more.
You're gonna experience morefulfillment, more joy, more
love.
Everything about your life willget better.
There is no downside to this.
And when you say, Well, is itthat easy?
Isn't it gonna be work?
It's gonna take work and it'sgoing to take effort.
But you know what else takeswork and effort?
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Being complacent, being on thatcouch takes way more work and
effort than people realize.
Where?
How much are you going to thedoctors?
How many medications are youhaving to take?
How much pain and discomfort doyou experience every day from
the foods you eat, from the wayyour body is not working like
you know it should be working?
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That is a huge cost that I amnot willing to pay.
I will put in the work ahead oftime so that I get all the
benefits of what this beautiful,amazing human body can do and
what this earth has beendesigned to give us.
SPEAKER_00 (01:01:38):
So uh Marcus, we this has been such a beautiful
conversation.
And God, I if if people aren'tjumping out of their seats and
jolting to go take action, I'mnot sure what what else they'd
want to do after listening tothis.
And and that's that's credit toyou, brother.
And before we hit our rapid firesession, which is the customary
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closing, what are all the waysthat we can keep up with you,
experience you, yourcommunities?
What do you have going on thatwe can tap into in addition to
the book that's out now?
Oh, thank you, brother.
SPEAKER_02 (01:02:16):
First of all, you have done a spectacular job on
this, man.
It has been an honor spendingthis time with you.
If you want to come spend timewith me, if you want me in your
corner, if you want to plug intothis energy and this kind of
mindset, mumbo jumbo more often,I have an amazing mastermind
that I love spending time with.
It's at playbiggergame.com.
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Playbiggergame.com.
And I have different mastermindsfor different levels of human
beings who want to playdifferent levels of game.
Uh, but you can also always findme on social media at Marcus
Tallius.
Instagram is the best place toreach out to me.
I would love a DM from you.
If you found me here, please DMme.
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Like it means so much to me ifyou reach out to me.
I would love to cheer you on inlife.
You're gonna get just a littlebit of this at your disposal.
Uh and Ryan, man, I I hope we'vestarted something uh real here,
man.
I I think you're just an amazingdude.
I think you're gonna doincredible things in this world,
not that you aren't already.
And uh man, I've been blessedwith our time together.
SPEAKER_00 (01:03:22):
Man, thank you so much, brother.
That that that means the worldto me.
Now, here's the customaryclosing: it's one gem, one step,
one book.
Let's go.
And the way this works is youand I are are together, we're
going to lunch on some coolrooftop, and we're going up an
elevator, and someone gets oneach floor and they ask a
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question.
The amount of time you have toanswer the question is the
amount of time it takes to go upone elevator floor.
All right.
So the first person gets on theelevator and they recognize you,
they've they've read play abigger game, or they're part of
the community, they listen tothe podcast, they say, Marcus,
what's one gem that you liveyour life by, whether it be a
(01:04:09):
quote or a mantra, that I canput in my back pocket to live my
life by?
Be more grateful today.
SPEAKER_02 (01:04:16):
Be so grateful for absolutely anything and
everything that happens.
Don't just say thank you.
Let it come from here.
I am so grateful for this.
This has been very special.
If you do that, it will changeeverything else in your life.
And the more you do it, thewilder the changes.
SPEAKER_00 (01:04:39):
I love that.
Next person gets on.
Marcus, what's one step that Ican take today to start playing
a bigger game in life?
SPEAKER_02 (01:04:48):
Go today and spend some time in the woods.
Go for a 30-minute walk in thewoods.
Out where it's quiet, out whereyou can get some good fresh air,
out where you can be alone withyour thoughts, be in gratitude,
make a couple of decisions ofwhat you are gonna do from now
on to play a bigger game inlife.
SPEAKER_00 (01:05:06):
Hmm.
Last one.
Marcus, what's one book inaddition to yours that I can
read to enhance my mindset?
SPEAKER_02 (01:05:16):
Atomic Habits, James Clear.
It's gonna teach you how to puthabits into your life, why to
put them into your life, and doit now.
Take action.
One of the best books there is.
I love it.
I read it every single year.
It will change your life.
SPEAKER_00 (01:05:33):
I call that book like one of the personal
development Bibles that are outthere.
It's the one of the mosttransformative books that anyone
can read and pick up.
And man, Marcus, this has beensuch a blast.
And folks, if you want to play abigger game in not just 2024,
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but in life, then keep up withMarcus.
Grab the book and take action onthese simple mindset shifts,
these simple frameworks.
And you are not only going toplay a bigger game, but you are
going to win today.
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Thanks so much for tuning in.
But my number one tip in life is to start taking
action today.
Don't wait for tomorrow.
The opportunities of today mightbe gone to you.
The opportunities today are theopportunities that you're
supposed to step into.
And there is so much you willlearn once you start taking
action.
I can't more highly recommendyou just start putting one foot
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in front of the other.
One of the things I teach peopleconstantly, especially
entrepreneurs, is that I willlearn 90% of what I need to know
on the path.
SPEAKER_00 (00:34):
Two hard things.
Help one person.
Be good and do good.
Live a life of discipline, andyou will always win.
You have all the tools that youneed to succeed.
Welcome to Win Today.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
My name is Ryan Cass, and I amyour host.
My purpose in this world is tohelp push people further and
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Let's dig in.
Welcome everybody.
We've got a big time specialthis week.
We've got a return of one of myfavorite episodes with my
mentor, Marcus Collius, and thisis about his book and more so
his brand, Play a Bigger Game,Seven Universal Principles to
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Experience True Fulfillment andWin at Life.
You're gonna see here thatMarcus's energy is absolutely
off the charts.
And as we're getting ready towrap up 2025 and go into 2026,
this is the time where peopleare starting to evaluate the
year and look at what they want2026 to look like.
(02:02):
And I believe that Marcus is abeacon for what it looks like to
design and live an ideal life,hence why this one is coming
back for a remix as we enter thenew year.
I believe what's going to standout beyond Marcus's energy is
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that a lot of what his life andcareer resembles is taking messy
action.
So you heard in the beginningthat he learns ninety percent of
what he needs to do when he's onthe job or once he's already
committed to something.
And I believe that we can oftenbe waiting for the perfect step,
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the perfect opportunities for X,Y, and Z to take place before we
actually do something.
And then what do we do?
We either don't take action, orat times we wish that we took it
faster, or we regret the factthat we waited so long.
So with that, allow Marcus tohelp positively shape you and
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influence a bigger game, abigger version of you in 2026
and win today.
Thank you.
My favorite thing to understandabout high performers is the
genesis of why they do what theydo.
But first, a simple search onGoogle.
We search your name, we can seethe Guinness World Record, and a
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lot of really cool things.
But I have a sense that ifsomeone asked you who you are,
you would identify yourself bywhat you do to help others.
And that's really what lightsyou up.
What is it that you would saymakes you human, just like the
rest of us?
SPEAKER_02 (03:52):
I love that, brother.
Thank you.
And I really appreciate whatyou're saying because it's the
truth.
What lights me up is not, oh,here's what I got to do in my
life, here's theaccomplishments.
Man, when people read my resume,I'm always like, holy smokes,
are they talking about me?
That's wild.
Uh but what really gets meexcited is helping others
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achieve, helping others achievetheir goals, lifting them up,
aha moments, that just somethingthat broke through to somebody.
So, what really makes me humanis not only how much I want to
help humanity, but where I camefrom.
I think my story is the perfectstory of if this guy can do it,
anybody can do it.
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In my opinion, in my first 15years, there was nothing special
about me.
I didn't have a leg up in anyway.
We were so poor, we were so poorfinancially, spiritually, love,
just broke, broke in every way.
And the fact that I could havetaken that life and turned it
into what it is today, it'sproof that absolutely anybody
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can do anything they choose to.
SPEAKER_00 (05:02):
That's beautiful.
And what you and I share incommon as we were speaking off
camera, and you just mentionedit here, that your first 15
years, if we looked at that,then we may not have predicted
that you'd be where you're attoday.
And I believe that one of themost beautiful things about high
achievers, it's almost for mostof them, it's almost as if the
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troubling times is like aprerequisite to becoming a high
achiever because I have not meta single one that hasn't had
something very deep that hasdriven them.
In those early years, and I'llcall them the formative years.
Did you have this vision ofbecoming who you are today, or
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did it evolve over time?
I remember growing up in thehousehold that I did where there
was the systemic trend ofalcoholism.
I would always spend timeenvisioning, like, all right,
what am I gonna make my life?
And I and I made a promise tomyself early on that I'm not
gonna carry on this trend.
(06:12):
And I had this vision of helpingpeople and doing something in
the business world, but Icouldn't have painted this exact
picture that exists today.
So, what did that look like foryou?
SPEAKER_02 (06:23):
Brother, you brought up some beautiful things.
Number one, the answer is no.
I had no clue what it was gonnalook like.
All that I cared about was justlike you not being here where I
was anymore.
Just I have to break the curse,all the family curses, all the
systemic garbage that it hasplagued the colleist name.
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I just needed to break it.
That's all I knew.
That's all I cared about.
And uh, so that was big.
Um the other piece that youbrought up that I just want to
talk about that I I just I love.
Um actually, you know what?
I think that one's gonna come upnaturally again in a minute.
So I'm gonna leave that one.
But brother, what I what I lovethat you and I talked about off
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camera was when you said, andthis is one of my favorite lines
that Tony Robbins always talksabout, that life is not
happening to you, it's happeningfor you.
And the people who achieve greatthings in this world, it seems
like they're the ones who'vejust figured that out and not
just heard it, but reallyunderstood it.
And so I know this is happeningfor you, and uh, it happened for
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me.
So I want to I want to make sureanybody listening hears this
right now.
We have so many, so muchgarbage, so much baggage in our
past, and we go, Marcus, this isthe reason why I won't succeed.
This is the reason why, howcould I?
And this is what my friend EdMilette always says, you know,
it's the stuff that we thinkthat disqualifies us, is
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actually the stuff thatqualifies us.
Yes, and it's really what you'retalking about.
This stuff didn't happen to me,it happened for me.
We grew up so poor, so that Iwould learn work ethic, so that
I would have something on, youknow, that you want to call it a
chip on the shoulder.
I'm fine with that.
It was a chip on my shoulderthat said, I will not be this
poor, I will not grow up withthis kind of pain and pass that
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on to my kids.
I will do what it takes.
Being in a house where therewasn't enough love in the house,
that changed me into a manthat's like, when I have my own
house, when I have children,they are gonna receive so much
love.
My wife is gonna receive toomuch love.
That's the kind of man I decidedI was gonna be when I was a
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child.
Now, had I not gone through thatstuff, I can confidently say I
would not be anything like theman I am today.
So, for anyone who hasn't turnedthat corner yet, I just want to
encourage you today.
What if just ask this question?
What if that stuff you think isall your baggage, your garbage,
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the stuff that disqualifies you?
What if it was the biggest giftyou've ever received?
Just try to answer that.
Try to answer how could that betrue?
How could it be a gift?
And don't just get stuck withno, there's no way, there's no
way.
Well, if you're gonna saythere's no way, then you're
right.
There's no way.
Right.
But in any situation, you cansay, well, because of a divorce,
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I I figured out what love wasand I made a decision.
I won't get divorced.
I will do everything I have todo, become who I have to become
to not have divorce.
There's a million ways you canfind the answer to that.
And hey, I'd love to help youwith that.
So reach out to me.
Let me help you with that.
SPEAKER_00 (09:41):
You're living up to what I said at the beginning,
just the epitome of energy.
And I'm getting this hugedopamine hit right now.
Like, if we could have theseconversations all day, every
day, or I feel like we could wecould go for hours right now.
And I also share being a hugefan of Ed Milette, and I love
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what you said.
The things that you believedisqualify you are the things
that actually qualify you.
Yeah.
When I go speak, especially tostudents, and I'll occasionally
take a poll.
How many of you have come from abroken household or in a
household right now that there'ssomething difficult going on,
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some some form of adversity?
SPEAKER_03 (10:25):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:26):
And a lot of hands go up because right around that
age, as as you and I know, rightaround that 15-ish teenage
years, can be the times whereyou're looking at that situation
as the worst, and I tell themeach of you have a gift that you
have no idea how how much thiscan serve you right now if you
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simply start looking at it as agift.
And when you flip the script onany sort of adversity in life,
you will always, always have agift.
You talked in a recent podcastjust on Ed Milette for a minute.
(11:08):
Meeting the man, the myth, thelegend, interacting with him.
What's that been like?
SPEAKER_02 (11:14):
Uh, so I I think we're talking about when I met
Tony Robbins.
So Tony Robbins, I mean, there'sthere's the king of the castle.
I mean, with all due respect toEd, Ed's my boy.
I love Ed.
Even Ed points to Tony as theman.
And you know what?
I would argue that the next guyon the list, that's Ed.
(11:37):
And Tony is gonna run out histime.
He's he's moving past a pointwhere, you know, he's ready to
pass that torch soon, and Ed'sgonna be the guy.
Uh, Tony, I've spent the lastyear and a half.
Uh, I've traveled with Tony,I've got to spend so many
amazing hours with Tony.
But Tony actually startedchanging my life 30 years ago.
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I came across Tony's cassettes30 years ago and he put me on a
better path.
And he is the guy who talks likeyou and I are talking, which is
whatever you're going throughright now.
What if you get to see it as agift?
How could you reframe itdifferently?
How can you use it as yoursuperpower?
And that's truly what it is.
You know, this idea, by the way,everybody who's hearing this and
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who isn't quite grasping, youknow, this idea of what uh I
think disqualifies me, it's notjust the stuff that's happened
to you.
It's who you are.
You you fill in this blank withlike, yeah, but I'm not pretty
enough, I'm not skinny enough,I'm not talkative enough, I'm
not extroverted enough.
You fill in all these things.
The argument is, and I fullybelieve this 100% with all of my
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heart, there is only one of you.
You've been made exactly howyou're supposed to be made, how
quiet you are, how tall you are,all of those things.
Now, should you become a betterversion of yourself?
Absolutely.
However, the stuff that you wantto hide away from the world that
you don't want to showcase isusually the stuff that makes you
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unique and special, and that theworld needs you to step into
that because whatever that is,well, yeah, but Marcus, I had
problem with drugs, I hadproblem with alcohol, I had a
problem with pornography.
Well, guess what?
There are literally millions onmillions on millions of other
people who are going through thesame thing who you might only be
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one step ahead of them and theycould learn so much from you, or
you're 10 steps ahead of them,and you could radically change
their life.
But if you're gonna hide awayand go, well, no, not this,
though.
This is too embarrassing.
This is what this is whatdisqualifies me, you're missing
the chance to serve so manypeople and change so many lives.
SPEAKER_00 (13:49):
I love that you brought up Tony Robbins and
corrected me on that.
I thought that I had heard on apod that you were maybe gonna
meet Ed Milette, but yes, thatit is it is out there that you
are a disciple of Mr.
Robbins and I love him.
And the goal board you'relooking at right behind me, when
I decided to make the shift inmy life and again carry carry on
(14:11):
that promise that I'm not gonnabe the next one.
I started researching peoplelike Tony and I read about
everything I could about Tony.
I was like, what is it thatmakes this guy so successful?
What's the secret sauce?
What's is it is it anythingcomplex?
And then I discovered, oh well,he writes his he writes his
goals down and makes thingsclear.
(14:32):
I was like, okay, well, if Tonydoes that, let me give it a
shot.
Yeah.
And I would say that, yeah, Tonyhas made a massive impact on my
life now for over 14 years.
And I believe that one of themost profound things about
impact in this world is thatpeople think, man, Marcus,
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you've you've you've touched 10million lives, and man, I just I
maybe maybe if I wait a littlebit longer, then I can launch
that thing and and launch andthen I'll impact X amount of
lives.
And making an impact in thisworld really starts with just
helping one person.
We never really know the impactwe're gonna have.
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You've met Tony Robbins, Ihaven't, but Tony Robbins has
said is has impacted my life.
You know, talk through the powerof impacting just one life
because I think so many peoplestop themselves thinking, ah, I
I need to I need to wait until Ican help the masses before I do
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anything.
SPEAKER_02 (15:40):
Oh, yeah, that that is truly human psychology right
now.
Like, let me become a I gottajust I can't keep working on me
for a long time before I stepoutside.
But you're so right.
You impact one person and youdon't know who that's supposed
to be.
So you gotta go outside.
You gotta that person's gonna bedrawn to you, who you are today.
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And that one life that youimpact can have a ripple effect
that you could never know.
You could never know how manylives that person could change.
And you should still feelchallenged to become the best
version of yourself.
But my number one tip in life isto start taking action today.
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Don't wait for tomorrow.
The opportunities of today mightbe gone tomorrow.
The opportunities today are theopportunities that you're
supposed to step into.
And there is so much you willlearn once you start taking
action.
I can't more highly recommendyou just start putting one foot
in front of the other.
One of the things I teach peopleconstantly, especially
(16:46):
entrepreneurs, is that I willlearn 90% of what I need to know
on the path.
That means at most I can learn10 pieces 10% before I start.
So I have to start walking.
And you won't believe howquickly you're gonna go, oh my
goodness, this is not the rightpath.
I'm just gonna, I gotta deviate.
(17:06):
But you wouldn't know it untilyou start moving.
Like any path, you start goingdown and you're not going down
the wide road.
You're going into the bush andyou hack through some of the
bush, and all of a sudden you'relike, wow, this is not where I
wanted to be going.
You hack through another part,and you're like, oh man, look at
the gold mine that's behind thisone, and you start moving
forward on that.
And the fact that you're takingaction will fill you up in ways
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that only action can fill youup.
That growth, this is part of thelife journey that is so critical
that not enough people aretalking about.
It's the growth that Iexperience every day and it
gives me so much energy, thatgives me so much fulfillment,
allows me to make impact on somany people's lives because
people just see me and they'relike, this guy is changing, this
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guy's doing stuff.
It's not because I dounbelievable things every single
day.
I wish that was the case, andI'm sure one day maybe it will
be.
But the fact that I just changea little bit, 1% every single
day, that's what people takenotice of.
So make your move.
Take some action today, become a1% better version of who you
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were yesterday, that is going toadd up so dramatically.
And in a year, you will be adifferent human being.
SPEAKER_00 (18:23):
Absolutely.
This makes me think of Iinterviewed the founder and CEO
of Spartan, uh, Joe DeSena.
Yeah.
And one thing that he said thatreally stood out is you know,
the antiquated approach of readyaim fire, where that originated
was back in the old war dayswhere you had to load the musket
(18:47):
with black powder, and youreally had to think through
before taking your shot becausewe didn't have these weapons
that we could that we couldreload.
And not to make this adiscussion about war, but the
approach, we say, ready, aim,fire.
Joe said, No, no, no, no.
Fire, ready, aim.
Because we live in a worldtoday, especially with the
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technology that we have at ourfingertips.
We could take a thousand badshots.
Yes.
So good.
And go reload and go do the nextone and keep going because
eventually you're gonna hit thattarget.
Now, I believe there is somesome prep work, you don't want
to go into anything totallyblind, but picking up picking a
bit of what you said there,Marcus, that you focus on growth
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every day.
And what I heard is youincorporate intentional growth
into your day.
I'm curious as to what thatlooks like.
How have you how do youmanufacture growth into your
day-to-day?
SPEAKER_02 (19:48):
Brilliant question.
So, in many ways, let's startwith habits.
You have to put habits into yourlife, you have to make this
stuff part of your everyday.
If it's not a habit, you'regonna go weeks and you're gonna
go, oh shoot, I haven't doneanything for growth lately.
It's such a key part of my life,and it is a critical part of
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success.
Any successful person you comeacross, this is the probably one
of the number one things you'regonna find that they have in
common is we create habits andand we dump bad habits that are
gonna hold us back.
So, for me personally, there's afew things that I'm going to
grow every single day for therest of my life.
One is in my health.
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So, what do I have to do toimprove my health every single
day?
Well, I gotta get some exercise.
And by the way, for anybodywho's like, this is the only
type of exercise, let me helpyou turn that person off.
Don't listen to that person everagain.
They're just trying to get yourattention on social media.
There are a billion ways to getyour exercise in.
Yeah, some are gonna be more uhbeneficial than others, but
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what's most important is thatyou get some exercise in.
Get your body moving.
We are designed to move.
All the bad stuff in life comesfrom us being sedentary.
So get moving every single day.
So I get my workouts in.
Plus, what am I consuming?
What data am I putting into mymouth?
I look at food as data.
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What is it telling my body?
What is it telling my mind?
The food that I consume, I'mtelling my body and mind, I'm
freaking Michael Jordan.
You better be ready to dominatethis world.
I need to show up as a 10 out of10 every day, or I'm missing
opportunities to impact lives.
So when I eat, I'm eating sothat my body's going to be at
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its best.
My mind's going to be at itsbest.
My digestion, my energy, allthese things are critical.
And then the most simple way tomanufacture it, start listening
to more podcasts, start readingmore books.
And if you don't like reading, Iknow there's so many people
like, ah, reading.
Audible books are awesome.
And if you are on Amazon Prime,you get a free book every single
(21:59):
month.
Like, there's no excuses here,people.
If you have 20 minutes a day inthe car, you can be listening to
a book.
You will read a book every weekto two weeks.
That's massive.
As opposed to just listening tomusic or talk radio or other
garbage that doesn't benefityou.
It's just entertainment value,which I get.
(22:20):
There's a point.
Hey, you need some entertainmentvalue.
But my quickest argument wouldbe oh, you really need that one?
Just out of curiosity, how muchNetflix do you consume every
day?
I don't think anybody needs sixhours of entertainment value
every day.
So you can drop 20 minutes, giveme 20 minutes of a book, and now
(22:40):
you're gonna start to changeyour life.
SPEAKER_00 (22:43):
I listened to you on a podcast recently with Josh
Cadillac, and he asked you aninteresting question about what
do you believe is the biggestopportunity in the market right
now?
And your response was rightalong those lines that it is
fairly easy to stand out in theworld today because the majority
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of people are consumingnon-value added information.
SPEAKER_03 (23:10):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (23:10):
And even if you commit to 20 minutes, as you
said, of consuming valuableinformation, whether it's an
audible book or a podcast, anddoing that every day or almost
every day, you're going to setyourself so far ahead of the
majority of the pack, and it'sand it's not rocket science.
(23:32):
And here's what I want to knowis you said you need to show up
as a 10 out of 10 every day.
And I love that.
Now, you and I are humans, I'dbe willing to bet there's days
where internally you feel like atwo out of ten.
Maybe a three, maybe a one outof ten, maybe a zero out of ten.
But I also am willing to betthat that doesn't matter because
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you're gonna push past that.
So on the days that you feellike a two, but the standard is
a ten, what do you do to bridgethat gap?
SPEAKER_02 (24:06):
Oh, fantastic question.
And I want to come back to theopportunity thing in a moment,
but this idea of not feelingperfect every day, yeah,
nobody's gonna feel perfectevery day.
So make sure you listen to that,everybody.
This is not about uh no, no, no,now it's 10 out of 10 every day.
No, it doesn't work like that.
We're human, stuff happens, butyou know what's wild?
(24:29):
Out of 365 days a year, if youwere to have 50 crummy days, 50
days where you didn't show up atyour best, do you know what that
would look like on a scorecard?
You'd still have an A.
That's 50 days.
So you can give yourself somegrace.
Now, I'm not saying I take those50 days off.
Some of those days, I givemyself the grace to go, you know
(24:52):
what?
I am going to rest today becauseclearly my body needs some rest.
But more often than not, if I'mwaking up and I'm not feeling my
best, then I'm just a little bitoff.
So if I'm being honest with you,I don't experience twos and
threes anymore, which is reallynice because my average is so
high, it's brought up my averageeven for my crappy days.
So to me, when I'm feeling likea six or seven, it feels like a
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one or two because I'm used to10.
So on that six or seven days,that is when I challenge myself.
Because listen, anybody can havean unbelievable stellar day if
you're waking up a 10 out of 10.
Oh, I got the energy, I gotthis.
Okay, is there a story to tellthere?
There really isn't.
But the guy who felt like a sixor seven or a one or two, but
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then performed at a 10.
Now there's a story, there's amemory.
So one of my favorite things todo when people are like, but
Marcus, I don't feel likeworking out all the time.
What do what do you do?
Okay, so on those days when I'mlike, today is just not the day
for working out, that's when Igo, all right, Marcus, let's go,
buddy.
This is the day.
Show me what you're made of.
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Set a new record, set a newstandard, tell a story.
Make sure you're doing somethingso that you have a story to tell
later.
Those are my favorite workoutsbecause I push and I push and I
have to find new gears.
I'm like, bro, you gotta findsome more heart.
There has to be more heart inthere.
And when I push and I actuallyset a PR on that day, bro,
(26:23):
that's a story to tell.
And now I go, man, I am afreaking animal.
I thought this was my level.
I'm actually up here, bro.
This is not arrogance speaking.
This is confidence buildingevery day in who I am and who
I'm going to be tomorrow, sothat I can show up tomorrow
going, man.
(26:45):
I know what I did yesterday.
I don't even have to tell thestory.
I'm telling the story to myself.
And it's a reminder.
We need these stories, by theway.
We all have so many stories.
If you said, hey, Ryan, why areyou a failure?
Why might you fail in life?
We've all got those stories.
Oh, well, let me tell you, man.
I did this, this, this, andthis.
(27:06):
Ah, what a piece of crap.
We've all got those stories.
So, how about building somestories on the other side?
Marcus, why are you gonna wintoday?
You know what?
Yesterday I didn't feel like awinner and I freaking dominated.
I got a PR, I put in the work, Ishowed up.
Today I'm gonna succeed becauseof boom, boom, boom, boom.
(27:28):
Give yourself the argument.
Whatever you focus on, that iswhat is going to happen.
So if you focus on I'm probablygonna lose today, yeah, my bet
is you're gonna lose today.
If you walk in going, I'm gonnawin today for these reasons,
I'll put money on you.
SPEAKER_00 (27:44):
Man, look at that.
You're making me want to jumpthrough the screen and give you
a hug.
No, go back.
You mentioned that I'll ask youthe same question as it that I
heard you say on Josh's podcast.
Yes.
What do you see as the biggestopportunity out in the market
today?
SPEAKER_02 (28:00):
Yeah, so listen, you already covered part of it, but
I'm gonna give you a slightlydifferent answer.
So, number one, I truly believethis is the easiest time in
history to stand out, like byfar.
Because most people, and when Isay most, I'm not talking six
out of ten people.
I truly believe 99 out of 100people are asleep.
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They are sleepwalking throughtheir days.
Their idea of success is justmaking it through today.
If you are 1% more ambitiousthan that, you will stand out.
Now imagine if every day you puta little effort into that
ambition, you try to improveyourself a little bit every
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single day, you will stand outso fast.
As somebody who has owned morethan 25 companies, I can tell
you when I'm speaking to someonewho I'm gonna hire, I'm gonna
fire, I'm gonna promote, I'mgonna give a raise to.
It to me, it's black and white.
It is really simple.
The conversation goes like this.
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Well, I've done the average ofwhat you uh uh asked me to do,
so I'd like money.
Easy no.
Thank you so much.
Have a good day.
Or, hey, you told me to do this,this, and this.
Not only did I do those things,but I did this, this, and this.
And here's where I see myselfgoing over the next few years.
I'm like, there's your money.
(29:22):
Easy peasy.
But now, here's the other way Iwant to answer this question.
Right now, has a whole other setof opportunities for you in a
downed economy where people aresure it's gonna get worse, and
they're probably right.
99.9% of people are living infear.
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And what happens when peoplelive in fear?
They make really bad decisionsand they batten down the hatches
and they hide and theyhibernate.
If you can just stay clear ofall the fear and try and have an
abundance mindset.
Now, it's not just Words, thisstuff takes time, this stuff
takes work.
(30:03):
I'm happy to work with you onit.
And there's many different waysyou can build that abundance
mindset.
But if you can do that, you canchange the world.
Because 99% of everybody else isnot doing this.
You are going this way, you willstand out.
Some of the greatest history,uh, sorry, some of the greatest
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businesses in history.
Most of the greatest businessesin history were started during
the worst economic times.
And I'll tell you just realquick why that is, because I
don't know, yeah, but what theheck am I supposed to do?
Bad times about, hey, hey, hey.
Remember, we're not doing feartalk.
(30:44):
We're going to talk abundance.
Here's why.
If you are a big establishedcompany right now and the and
the world is tanking, it'sreally hard for those big
companies to turn.
They're so set in their ways.
Now a new company comes duringthis very tough time.
They can make moves in thistough time to get far ahead, to
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stand out.
You can do it.
Just start with the rightmindset and take some action.
SPEAKER_00 (31:16):
You talked about reading books, and that's one
way to experience this abundancemindset.
And as you were saying that,specifically with the company,
some of the greatest companiestoday we know started in the
darkest of times.
Yes.
I just finished reading TheObstacle is the way by Ryan
Holliday.
Love Ryan Holiday.
(31:36):
That is a book that I willrecommend to everyone because
what I'm hearing you say thereis even the aren't really
obstacles.
They are they are those are thethose are the qualifiers, those
are the gifts just being thrownright at you.
And if and if and if people whenpeople can simply shift their
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vision a little bit, and whichtakes time and training and a
lot of rewiring and a lot ofprogramming in the brain, which
is available to anybody.
Yes.
Is it fair to say you don'tbelieve that bad times exist?
SPEAKER_02 (32:11):
Oh, Ryan, this is really good.
This is really good.
That's a tough way, it's a toughquestion to answer.
The truth is, I believe at somepoint you will look at any time
in your life and say that wasnot a bad time.
I don't know if I want to be asbold as say bad times don't
(32:31):
exist, only because I'm worriedthat people who are still at
level one are just gonna nowshut us out.
They'll go, ah, these guys arejust they're such Looney Tunes.
What are you talking about?
If you knew what I'm goingthrough right now, you wouldn't
say bad days don't exist.
I I would agree with what yourprinciple is, which is man, at
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some point we're gonna look backat that.
Like, look at COVID.
COVID was such a horrific timein the beginning of COVID, for
sure, the scariest, mostchallenging times in business
for me and for everyone else.
However, you'll talk to mostbusiness people who are still
around, who are doing well,saying COVID was kind of
(33:16):
awesome.
Like, uh with all due respect, II I wouldn't wish it again.
I don't, I wish all those peopledidn't die, I wish all the
mental health didn't uh problemsdidn't happen.
So none of that.
But as far as for business goes,where I was freaked out the
most, it was phenomenal.
So if we could just learn to seethat the obstacle is the way,
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and when an obstacle is in frontof us, to not go, ah, this is so
scary and what am I gonna do?
But we went, hey, this is anopportunity, this is an
opportunity to grow.
One of my favorite analogies isjust to break it down into our
school years.
How did you get into grade six?
Well, you had to go through thetests of grade five.
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If you don't pass those tests,if you are just like, no, tests,
I can't do it, no, well, guesswhat you're doing next year?
Still in grade five.
But if you can go, it's okay.
I these tests, these challengesare supposed to be in front of
me, so I can get to grade six.
So when I see that challengecoming at me, I don't go, oh no,
(34:20):
no.
I go, yes, awesome.
I'm about to go to the nextgrade.
This is amazing.
And hey, if the challenge ishard enough, I might skip a
grade or two.
Awesome! And think if you havethat kind of attitude, not only
are you gonna get through it,but you're gonna get through it
with better ideas.
You come up with way betterideas if you're this guy going,
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yeah, I can do this, I can dothis, versus, ha ha ha ha,
please, no.
SPEAKER_00 (34:50):
Perhaps a better way, as you were saying that, I
was thinking through it.
Like, how would I answer thatquestion?
And perhaps it's not that badseasons don't exist or bad times
don't exist, but life is full ofseasons, good and not so good,
or perhaps great and difficult,but all seasons deliver.
(35:11):
Oh, really?
The good times deliver plenty ofgreat things, and uh the rough
times also deliver, and maybenot immediately, but you'll be
able to see them later in thefuture.
And when I run, man, I wasthinking about you when I was
running this morning.
Like my my dopamine hit in themorning, especially being a
(35:32):
marathoner and getting ready forBoston here in 40 and 40 days,
39 days.
You know, there's times where Ijust put my arms out wide like
this, Marcus, and like, man, I'mI'm I'm grateful for this day.
And but in specifically what Isay is, man, I'm grateful for
the for the good times, and I'mgrateful for the for the tough
(35:54):
times.
I'm grateful for the good timesto come, and I'm grateful for
the tough times to come.
Because it's not that I wish forthe tough times to come, but I
understand that those toughmoments are eventually, if not
immediately, gonna give me justas much as those good moments.
Because it's the tough momentsthat have you and I here talking
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today.
SPEAKER_02 (36:16):
This is so beautiful, Ryan.
You are on such a beautifulpath, brother.
I I'll put money on you becomingsomebody absolutely spectacular.
Not that you aren't already, andyou are gonna impact a lot of
lives, man.
This is the mindset, this iswhat we're talking about.
I want to add one more pointbecause it's something you and I
are kind of dancing around whenwe're talking about all these
(36:37):
tough times.
I think one of the words that weshould really talk about here is
acceptance.
And I this is a big differencefrom the people who see
something, uh, some sort ofchallenge in front of us, and
they go the right way or they gothe wrong way, and it's
acceptance.
So the people who go the rightway are the ones who go, yeah,
this is a challenging time, butit is what it is.
(37:00):
Let's find out a solution.
But 99 out of 100 people go, ah,this is too difficult of a time.
This isn't right, this shouldn'tbe happening.
No, I can't accept this.
So, this idea of acceptance,everybody, it doesn't mean you
have to agree with it.
So, this also absolutelypertains to the baggage that
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you're carrying with your life.
Most people can't move on fromit because they don't accept it.
So, no matter what has happenedto you, you need to accept it.
Again, you don't have to agreewith it.
You don't have to go, oh yeah,it's so great that my parents
divorced.
Oh, yeah, it's so great thatthis trauma happened to me.
But if you can say, Yeah, ithappened to me, and now what am
(37:46):
I gonna do about it?
You are gonna free yourself togrow to become the person you're
supposed to become.
So just accepting it, going,This is where we're at.
This is the reality of thesituation.
SPEAKER_00 (38:01):
Now what?
Amen, brother.
We're talking through thingsthat are in your book.
You're a newly minted author,play a bigger game.
What are let's cover one of theseven principles that are in the
book.
What's the one that you know?
If if if folks only read thisone principle and and and I want
(38:23):
you to read all seven, folks,but if they if they just skip
the one, which one would youwant them to see?
SPEAKER_02 (38:29):
Oh man, that's it.
That's really tough.
That is like having sevenchildren and being like, you get
to save one, which one?
Uh I I think I'm gonna reach forchoice.
I'm such a big believer inchoice, and choice changed my
life.
So the principle around choiceis this if you can learn to
recognize that absolutelyeverything that's happening in
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your life is your choice, thatcan change your world
dramatically.
Now, of course, you're rightaway.
The the skeptics are like, whatare you talking about?
I didn't choose to have that caraccident, I didn't choose to
have this trauma, I didn'tchoose this or that.
(39:12):
Okay.
If I'm right, what if?
Just answer me that question.
What if I'm right?
And what if it was a choice?
How could you peel it back to achoice?
What would that look like?
So much of what we have going onin our lives, it's like, well,
okay, my health is failing.
(39:32):
I guess 10 years ago I couldhave started eating healthier
and exercising.
Okay, there's one choice, that'sawesome.
And of course, my next questionwill be well, what would you
like to do for the next 10years?
If that was a choice that youcould have made, what if it's
not too late?
What if you made that choicetoday?
(39:54):
Now, what if you looked intoevery single aspect of your life
and said, How can it be truehere?
What you're gonna find is choiceafter choice after choice that
can change everything today, andthat really excites me.
And my life has been puttingthis into practice.
(40:15):
I am just a product of theseprinciples, and how I live in
this, whenever I face anything,I go, what choice led me here?
What choice can get me out ofthis?
SPEAKER_00 (40:30):
You know, as I was listening to you and getting
ready, and again, just I'm gonnacompliment your energy and your
radiance again, because it'sit's here now that I get to
experience it live.
Man, I wish that a lot of peopleget to experience this
conversation and pick up thebook.
(40:51):
And on the principle of choice,I've said for a while now that
you know how we choose to showup every day, and even I just
said it right there, but how weshow up every day.
Every day we wake up, every dayyou wake up, any every day that
someone listening wakes up, youhave a choice to make on how
you're going to show up.
(41:12):
I believe it's easy to wake up,let's say it's raining outside,
or you had a flat tire, the dogthrew up, the kids are
screaming.
You have a choice in thosemoments.
Okay.
This non-ideal event isoccurring right now.
But you can still choose.
(41:33):
You know what?
I'm gonna choose to come to thisconversation with Marcus and and
be joyful.
Yeah, and I'm gonna choose to goto the office today and and
smile and be happy.
And that's the the conversationI usually have with myself in
the mornings, that even ifsomething again, going back to
the to what we said, goodseasons, bad seasons, there's
(41:54):
days that things aren't going sohot, but I still tell myself,
all right, Ryan, you have achoice right now before you even
go into the office, how you'regoing to show up for people.
SPEAKER_02 (42:06):
Talk through, talk through, talk through that a
little bit more, man.
Oh, please.
I love this, Ryan.
That that is the mindset rightthere.
Everybody, rewind it back threeminutes to go over this again.
You have the choice every day onhow you show up to this world.
Now, part of what work I doevery single day on myself and
(42:26):
the people that I spend my timewith, the people who I work
with, the people at performancecoach, the people in my
mastermind, I work on thisfactor every day.
And one of the thoughts I wantto put in people's heads is what
if you showed up every day asyour best self?
How much bigger of an impactwould you make on all the lives
all around?
(42:48):
Who would you be saving?
Who would you be changing justby showing up as your best self?
Now, I want to tell you the nextlevel of thinking here, which
really excites me because thisis the stuff I was learning as I
was growing up and I was growinginto this.
I was like, yeah, I want to showup as my best self.
(43:08):
But Ryan, you and I have alreadytalked about, oh man, but
there's so many things that aregonna fight me every day from
showing up as my best self.
What if I could put in a wholebunch of habits that made it so
it wasn't even a choice anymore?
Like, let me pre-make the choiceso that I'm going to have an
amazing day.
And on the flip side, whathabits can I take out of my life
(43:32):
that made it more likely that Iwas gonna have crappy stuff
happen?
If you apply that principle,your world, it's inevitable.
It's inevitable what's gonnahappen.
Success leaves clues.
One plus one equals two everysingle time.
If you do this consistently, youwill get this result.
(43:54):
So I'm gonna give you somereally quick ones.
So really quick, actionableitems.
Try them immediately.
Every night before I go to bed,my next morning is already laid
out.
I know everything that's gonnahappen in the morning.
So there's no choice.
When I wake up, my clothes formy cardio session are already
picked out.
Because you know what?
(44:14):
When you wake up, what should Iput on today?
That becomes such a biggerdecision than it needs to be.
Uh, should I wear this or this?
And all of a sudden you're 15,20 minutes in.
But guess what happened in those15 to 20 minutes?
You also checked your phone.
Ah, crap.
I got okay.
Give me a minute.
I'm gonna just I got two emails.
Ah, no, oh, social media, oh no.
What an hour went by?
(44:36):
Now I can't even do my card.
Oh no! No, no, no, no, no.
My clothes are already there, mywater bottles are already ready.
I am on my treadmill within sixminutes of waking up.
And I've just made a couple ofchoices and I've ordered some
things.
It's gonna take that down tofour minutes.
That's how serious I am aboutgetting on that treadmill.
(44:56):
On that treadmill, I am incardio mode.
I'm getting blood flowing, I'mgetting clarity happening, I'm
in prayer, I'm in gratitude forall the amazing things all
around me.
And one of the most importantthings, I have not looked up my
phone.
I am not letting my phonedictate the kind of day I'm
gonna have.
There is no good news on yourphone in the morning.
(45:18):
So why are we checking it firstthing before we're prepared?
Before you've put on your armor,you've already let some weapons
stab you.
Don't do that.
Make a commitment to say this ishow long it is before I'll check
my emails, before I'll checksocial media, before I do any of
that stuff.
You have to make that commitmentand you have to stay, you have
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to say this is a non-negotiable.
And you do that every day.
You won't believe how quicklyyou transformed.
Now, because I've got my cardioin, because I've had my time in
gratitude, my time in prayer, Iam so focused and ready for what
comes at me.
So now when I check my phone,I'm ready.
I will be dictating the day Ihave, not the phone.
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What a difference.
Look at that.
That that was less than 30minutes, less than 30 minutes
into the day, and I am preparedto have a way better day than
what I could have had.
SPEAKER_00 (46:10):
Look at that.
Winning today started yesterday.
Yes.
And for people that arelistening right now, if you want
to win tomorrow, it startstoday, tonight, this morning,
right now, right in thisinstant.
The last thing I do every day,two things.
Before I leave the office, Ialways print my calendar for the
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next day.
And then I write down what arethe three things that I'm gonna
do tomorrow.
So when I get in the officetomorrow, I'm not oh scratching
my head.
Because here's the thing, here'sthe principle that I have for
life, personal and professional,eliminate guesswork.
How do you eliminate guesswork?
Write down what you want, builda plan, lay out your clothes the
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night before, just like yousaid.
I come downstairs every day, thefirst thing I see is that goal
board.
There's never a uh what am Iwhat does 2024 success look
like?
It's right there.
And it's the most simple thing.
And everything you said, Marcus.
Yes, it requires a choice, butit is simple.
It requires no calculations,nothing.
(47:17):
We have choice.
One more principle.
One more principle.
Pick one more, pick one morebecause I want people to
actually get the book anddissect all seven of them
themselves.
But if we get a little sneakpeek of one more principle, I
love it.
SPEAKER_02 (47:31):
You know what?
I'm gonna choose one that tiesinto choice because and it ties
into everything that we've beentalking about.
It's integrity.
Integrity is a word.
I love talking about it.
It's uh it's almost anold-fashioned word now because
people don't use it enough.
Integrity has so many meanings,but the one I want to focus on
is are you being the person thatyou want to be?
(47:53):
Are you being the person thatyou're supposed to be?
Are you being your authenticyou?
And I mean all the wayauthentic.
And part of what integrity meansis there are some conditions,
there are some rules that youneed to start reapplying to your
life.
We've we've allowed ourintegrity to slide in ways that
we had no idea we were doing it.
So I'll tell you one of thefirst ones every single day
(48:16):
where people break theirintegrity and it changes the
course of their day.
And it's usually about threeseconds into waking up.
They hit the snooze button.
The snooze button is the firstchance to prove that you're a
person of integrity.
By hitting that snooze button,you've broken the first
agreement that you made for theday.
You said you were gonna wake upat this time and you didn't.
(48:40):
You said, Ah, you know what?
All agreements are negotiable.
Here's what happens the rest ofthe day.
Your subconscious all day, whenyou say, Hey, I said I was gonna
eat healthy today, yoursubconscious goes, Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
But uh, remember everything's upfor negotiation.
Remember the snooze button thismorning?
You're it's not a big deal.
Oh, we're gonna go to the gym.
(49:01):
There's so much going on.
Do we have to go to the gym?
You've already slid.
Now, I'm not saying this toguilt you.
Please, people hear this as aman who loves so much.
I love you so much.
I don't care if I don't knowyou.
I have so much love and so muchmercy for this human condition.
This is not coming from a placeof this is why I think you're a
(49:23):
bad person.
Furthest thing from it.
This is actually the reason Ilove you.
I love you because you arefacing the same decisions
everyone else is making.
And unfortunately, by theseissues that we just let slide
every single day, and it and ithas molded us into the people we
don't want to be.
So, all I'm trying to do is drawyour attention to it to go, what
(49:45):
if tomorrow you said, here'swhat time I'm gonna wake up, and
then you wake up.
What's so beautiful about that?
You now have this the rest ofthe day to look at to go, hey,
remember that contract I madethis morning?
I I did it.
I said I'd wake up then.
My yes means yes, my no meansno.
I am a person of integrity.
There's my proof.
(50:06):
And all day you can look atthat.
And by the way, just in casethat wasn't enough information
for you on the snooze button,the snooze button is actually
called the dream killer for areason.
It ruins your sleep so bad.
It disrupts your REM cycles, itdisrupts your sleep cycles, it
screws you up.
So do not think you're doingyourself a favor, you're not.
(50:29):
It feels good only in the idealike I have control over this,
I'll take 10 more minutes ofsleep.
Take the control the nightbefore, set the alarm for when
you want to set it for now.
Be in control of your integrity.
That is gonna make it for aspecial day.
SPEAKER_00 (50:48):
And that's powerful.
And if we go back to thescoreboard we talked about,
there's an easy way to put a winon the scoreboard within not
even a minute, not even oneminute, you can start racking up
that scoreboard.
And then you you put on theclothes that you laid out the
night before, now we're up twoto zero.
(51:08):
You make the bed, now we're upthree to zero.
You do your workout, we're upfour to zero.
It's like there's so many littlethings we can do every day that
then let's say something doesn'tgo our way that day, or maybe
even a couple things.
I highly doubt that let's justsay you build in 10 to 15 small
wins and you go for your walk.
(51:29):
Man, if the score is like thebad things have to go against a
10-0, 10 to 0, man, I highlydoubt that that's right, uh,
you're gonna lose many days.
SPEAKER_02 (51:40):
Oh man, will you guys have the brilliance of what
Brian is talking about?
This is how successful peopletalk and think.
But most of us overlook.
Uh, it wasn't that big of adeal.
I just did this.
I just it is a big deal.
Put it on the scoreboard becauseyou are 10 and oh, 15 and oh
before you even started yourday.
(52:01):
And yeah, one bad thing at it,who cares?
It's 15 to 1.
SPEAKER_00 (52:04):
I'm killing this dick.
So look at that.
Here's here's a real liveexample, folks.
That Marcus and I have just beenracking up wins in this
conversation.
We're I think the score might be100 to zero.
And your internet went out.
Here you are, you're back again.
Dude, we're up 100 to 1.
SPEAKER_02 (52:23):
Doesn't even phase us.
Doesn't even phase it.
I love it, brother.
Dude, that that that idea ofkeeping that scoreboard, that is
life-changing stuff.
So if you guys get nothing elsefrom this today, take that.
Keep a scoreboard, keep itrunning all day long.
And just make sure you feedthose wins.
You can keep feeding it, eventhe little stuff.
(52:44):
And if you feel like you'reslipping behind in the score,
just do something that's a win.
Go for a little walk and go, youknow what?
I took some time to myself.
Uh, say some gratitude thoughtsfor two minutes.
There's a win.
Eat something healthy, there's awin.
Easy to get your score padded,you're gonna win.
If you do those things everysingle day, think of how that
(53:04):
compounds.
How do you think that is notgonna turn into a successful
life?
SPEAKER_00 (53:09):
100%.
Amen.
Amen, brother.
Now, I want to go back on onething.
We talked about what it would belike if you showed up as your
best self, your most authenticself every day.
Some people may be questioning,I don't know what my best self
does it mean.
What does it mean to be my bestself?
(53:31):
I don't know what that lookslike.
What type of inventory orquestions should people ask
themselves to arrive at thatself-discovery?
You know what?
All right, this is the bestMarcus.
This is the best Ryan.
How do we clearly identify whatthat really means, showing up as
(53:53):
our best selves?
SPEAKER_02 (53:54):
What a brilliant question, legit, brother.
You are you're really good atwhat you do, man.
I I'm honored to be on the uhreceiving end of these
questions.
This is a great question becauseI think there's tons of people
who are like, I don'tnecessarily know, I wouldn't say
I'm my most authentic self.
How do I figure that out?
Absolutely, it's a process.
(54:14):
I will give you a few questionsto start you off, but just
please know that it's not justlike two questions, you answer
them and boom, oh, I don't feelit.
Therefore, I'm gonna stop.
You have to look at it as like ajourney.
And like any other journey inlife, if you want to start
getting healthy and you're like,okay, so I'm gonna go work out.
You do one workout.
Did you change your body?
(54:34):
Did you change your healthradically?
No, it's not about one workout,but it starts with one.
So, a couple key questions toask.
Number one, to find out yourauthentic self, start
recognizing that the answers areinside of you.
And here's what I mean (54:50):
what are the things in your life that
really light you up?
Like really get you excited.
Like, if someone were to pay meto do that all day, I would be
the happiest human on theplanet.
Okay, that's who you weredesigned to be.
Now, there might be multipleanswers, or there might not be
(55:12):
one answer that you're like, Idon't think there's one thing.
That's okay.
Again, this is a process.
Try and write down 10 thingsthat even interest you a little
bit, and then try and filterthat down.
Now that I've written down 10,actually, you know what?
These three really get meexcited.
Awesome.
See how you're starting tofigure out what who you are
authentically?
Now, on the flip side, anothergreat question to ask, it's a
(55:35):
negative question.
What things really piss you off?
And I don't mean like, well,when someone cuts me off in
traffic.
No, no, no.
I mean that piss you off to thecore.
It's like an injustice.
Oof, when people don't recycle,it pisses me off.
When people abuse children infront of me, it pisses me off.
(55:56):
That's the kind of thing thatI'm talking about.
Again, that is unique to you.
Of course, there's universalthings that upset us all, but
when something you might go, ohman, sex trafficking to my core,
it upsets me so much.
Yeah, sex trafficking, I thinkeverybody would agree is bad.
But some people are like, yeah,it's bad, but I'm not gonna do
(56:18):
anything about it.
Sex trafficking is one of thosethings that pisses me off to the
core.
So I am surrounding myself withother people who are daily
saving people from the sextrade.
That excites me.
And the more stuff that I do inthat space, the more I get to be
authentically me.
Why?
Because I see something thatupsets me to the core, and I'm
(56:42):
doing something about it.
One of the worst things thatwe've done as a human race is we
see things that piss us off.
We see things that light us up.
SPEAKER_01 (56:52):
But I'm gonna just spend a couple more hours in
front of Netflix before I thinkabout doing anything else.
SPEAKER_02 (56:58):
So take those actions, take some action on
something.
First, write it down and thenstart to explore it.
Do something about it, listen toa podcast on the subject, spend
some time with a small group whoalso feels that way.
There's so many chatrooms aboutthis stuff.
You watch how quickly you startto develop a different sense of
(57:21):
who you are, and you go, I'mactually feeling more energy.
Yeah, you will, because the moreyou walk into your authentic
self, the more energy you have.
Because this is who you'resupposed to be.
It feels right, it feelsaligned.
And the more in alignment youare, the more opportunities are
gonna come to you.
Why?
Because you're gonna attract theright people, you're gonna repel
(57:45):
the wrong people.
It's wild how we put off thisenergy.
And I'm not just talking aboutenergy like, oh yeah, you know,
the earth is gonna blah, blah,blah.
No, no, no, no.
I do believe in this stuff.
It's really easy.
If I love working out, oh, Ilove it so much.
Who do you think is attracted tome?
Other people who like workingout or the people who hate
(58:05):
working out?
Of course it's the people wholike working out.
And all of a sudden now we'regetting around each other.
And guess what happens when youput two of us together?
Ooh, the energy gets evencrazier.
But we're not doing that.
Because we're avoiding being ourauthentic selves, we're avoiding
being the person who this planetneeds us to be.
Everything feels like it's anuphill battle.
(58:26):
Everything feels uncomfortable.
And I love the way that that'sdesigned.
That discomfort should piss youoff enough to make you get up
and do something about it rightnow.
SPEAKER_00 (58:40):
Right now.
Amen.
I love that you mentioned thatthe answers are already inside
of you, that you have theanswers.
We have the answers.
Marcus, our conversationembodies this, but to define it,
now you have a community, play abigger game.
Title of the book, play a biggergame.
(59:01):
If you had to define what doesit mean to play a bigger game,
or what does someone that playsa big game in life look like?
Just to paint a picture aroundit.
SPEAKER_02 (59:11):
That's really beautiful, brother.
How'd you do that?
Beautiful lead up, by the way.
Uh, you know, I think it's kindof the the easiest way for me to
say it is it's the opposite ofwhat most people are doing.
Most people are playing a verycontent small game.
It's comfortable.
Uh, I get food delivered rightto my couch.
I spend a lot of time on thecouch.
(59:32):
And again, people, please.
I'm not blasting anybody, I'mnot condemning anybody, but I am
calling it like I see it.
And if you feel convicted bywhat I'm saying, that's you.
Your authentic you is going,he's talking to us.
Let's listen up.
How do we play this bigger game?
It's about just taking action sothat you can do the things that
(59:55):
you are designed to do and thatyou want to do.
That want, that need.
Need that you have that's howyou are designed.
You don't need to fight it, justdo something about it.
When you take action, it feelsso good.
You're taking control.
When you don't take control,you're giving control to others.
(01:00:16):
And there are a billioncompanies right now who are
happy to take your control,they're happy to take the keys
to your cuffs and lock you upfor life.
I'm the person going, I want toset you free.
I want you to become theauthentic you.
Not only are you gonnaexperience success in every area
(01:00:38):
of your life, but you're goingto enjoy your life more.
You're gonna experience morefulfillment, more joy, more
love.
Everything about your life willget better.
There is no downside to this.
And when you say, Well, is itthat easy?
Isn't it gonna be work?
It's gonna take work and it'sgoing to take effort.
But you know what else takeswork and effort?
(01:01:01):
Being complacent, being on thatcouch takes way more work and
effort than people realize.
Where?
How much are you going to thedoctors?
How many medications are youhaving to take?
How much pain and discomfort doyou experience every day from
the foods you eat, from the wayyour body is not working like
you know it should be working?
(01:01:22):
That is a huge cost that I amnot willing to pay.
I will put in the work ahead oftime so that I get all the
benefits of what this beautiful,amazing human body can do and
what this earth has beendesigned to give us.
SPEAKER_00 (01:01:38):
So uh Marcus, we this has been such a beautiful
conversation.
And God, I if if people aren'tjumping out of their seats and
jolting to go take action, I'mnot sure what what else they'd
want to do after listening tothis.
And and that's that's credit toyou, brother.
And before we hit our rapid firesession, which is the customary
(01:02:02):
closing, what are all the waysthat we can keep up with you,
experience you, yourcommunities?
What do you have going on thatwe can tap into in addition to
the book that's out now?
Oh, thank you, brother.
SPEAKER_02 (01:02:16):
First of all, you have done a spectacular job on
this, man.
It has been an honor spendingthis time with you.
If you want to come spend timewith me, if you want me in your
corner, if you want to plug intothis energy and this kind of
mindset, mumbo jumbo more often,I have an amazing mastermind
that I love spending time with.
It's at playbiggergame.com.
(01:02:38):
Playbiggergame.com.
And I have different mastermindsfor different levels of human
beings who want to playdifferent levels of game.
Uh, but you can also always findme on social media at Marcus
Tallius.
Instagram is the best place toreach out to me.
I would love a DM from you.
If you found me here, please DMme.
(01:02:59):
Like it means so much to me ifyou reach out to me.
I would love to cheer you on inlife.
You're gonna get just a littlebit of this at your disposal.
Uh and Ryan, man, I I hope we'vestarted something uh real here,
man.
I I think you're just an amazingdude.
I think you're gonna doincredible things in this world,
not that you aren't already.
And uh man, I've been blessedwith our time together.
SPEAKER_00 (01:03:22):
Man, thank you so much, brother.
That that that means the worldto me.
Now, here's the customaryclosing: it's one gem, one step,
one book.
Let's go.
And the way this works is youand I are are together, we're
going to lunch on some coolrooftop, and we're going up an
elevator, and someone gets oneach floor and they ask a
(01:03:47):
question.
The amount of time you have toanswer the question is the
amount of time it takes to go upone elevator floor.
All right.
So the first person gets on theelevator and they recognize you,
they've they've read play abigger game, or they're part of
the community, they listen tothe podcast, they say, Marcus,
what's one gem that you liveyour life by, whether it be a
(01:04:09):
quote or a mantra, that I canput in my back pocket to live my
life by?
Be more grateful today.
SPEAKER_02 (01:04:16):
Be so grateful for absolutely anything and
everything that happens.
Don't just say thank you.
Let it come from here.
I am so grateful for this.
This has been very special.
If you do that, it will changeeverything else in your life.
And the more you do it, thewilder the changes.
SPEAKER_00 (01:04:39):
I love that.
Next person gets on.
Marcus, what's one step that Ican take today to start playing
a bigger game in life?
SPEAKER_02 (01:04:48):
Go today and spend some time in the woods.
Go for a 30-minute walk in thewoods.
Out where it's quiet, out whereyou can get some good fresh air,
out where you can be alone withyour thoughts, be in gratitude,
make a couple of decisions ofwhat you are gonna do from now
on to play a bigger game inlife.
SPEAKER_00 (01:05:06):
Hmm.
Last one.
Marcus, what's one book inaddition to yours that I can
read to enhance my mindset?
SPEAKER_02 (01:05:16):
Atomic Habits, James Clear.
It's gonna teach you how to puthabits into your life, why to
put them into your life, and doit now.
Take action.
One of the best books there is.
I love it.
I read it every single year.
It will change your life.
SPEAKER_00 (01:05:33):
I call that book like one of the personal
development Bibles that are outthere.
It's the one of the mosttransformative books that anyone
can read and pick up.
And man, Marcus, this has beensuch a blast.
And folks, if you want to play abigger game in not just 2024,
(01:05:53):
but in life, then keep up withMarcus.
Grab the book and take action onthese simple mindset shifts,
these simple frameworks.
And you are not only going toplay a bigger game, but you are
going to win today.
(01:06:14):
Thanks so much for tuning in.
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