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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
A run back in the
day would be running to the
pantry or the fridge for a snackbefore I knew what a run was.
But we were on a run at uhEdistow Beach and he was like,
We're gonna run a mile and ahalf.
And I was like, sure, let's go.
I got that, no problem.
I was a baseball guy.
I had a little bit of abackground in running, quote
unquote.
Um and we took off in probably9:30, 10 minute pace, and I
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probably fell out 400 meterslater.
And I said, and he was like,You're gonna wait on you?
I was like, man, no, go.
I need to learn this lessonright now.
I need to know what this feelslike of falling behind and not
keeping up with the pack.
Um, and I let him go, and Ireally and I walked for about a
mile and had this thought justgoing through my brain of like,
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I'm never going to experiencethis feeling ever again.
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Alright, we've got someone onthat is a brother in very near
and dear to my heart.
We've got Edwin Martin with us,and a lot to be said about him
as a man of faith, as a servantleader, as an amazing
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ultra-endurance athlete, and uhmy my partner as well, who's
gonna be joining me on this200-plus mile trek across the
state of South Carolina toprovide to families that have a
loved one battling cancer rightnow, and he's someone that isn't
afraid to take on any challenge.
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So there's nobody else in thisworld that I'd rather do this
with, and there are uh nobodyelse in this world that I'm
prouder to call a brother.
So welcome.
SPEAKER_00 (02:29):
Appreciate it,
brother.
I think this podcast is longoverdue.
SPEAKER_02 (02:34):
Yeah, I think I've
been on uh you and Sean's like
four times now or something likethat, and at this point, I'll
decline any future invites untilI have both of you guys on,
since that's the the commitmentthat that I've made.
But yeah, Ed and Sean Rhodesalso are the co-host of the
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Revitalize podcast, and Ed isco-founder of uh Revitalize.
So, Ed, if we go on yourprofiles, one can quickly see
your commitment to endurance,your commitment to faith, and
they can see your physique.
They may make assumptions thatyou've always been this way, or
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that you're gifted and have thegenetics, all of these things.
But outside of all of that andwhat people might see from you
in little boxes in 30 seconds,what's most important for the
world to know about EdwinMartin?
SPEAKER_00 (03:34):
That's a great
question.
Um first off, I'd have to say Iam nothing without Christ.
Um, I truly want everyone to seeeverything that I do, everything
that I say.
That is him living inside of me.
Um, but more so my overallanswer would be I just am like
anybody else.
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I am just as broken as theperson to my left and to my
right.
And I have the skills that myperson to my left and my right
has.
But it's just ultimately, Ifound a switch one day that I
just turned on and haven'tturned off.
And I want to, just like you sayit, I want to leave this place
better than I found it.
Um, in any sort of situationthat I go into, any sort of
conversation that I bring myselfinto.
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I want to leave that person morerefreshed than they were before
I had the conversation.
And that's ultimately, I feellike just with getting the
endurance sports in the socialmedia world, it's really it's
really hard to actually seewho's vulnerable and who's real
and who's intentional withpeople.
And I really want to stick outfor being a follower of Christ
and someone who's really trulyendear and cares about the
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person who I'm talking to rightin front of me.
SPEAKER_02 (04:40):
Two of my favorite
things about you just came out
there, and one is that you trulydo lead from the heart, and
secondly, is that you have thisunshakable humility about you,
and I love that because there'sobviously if I was describing
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you, I would go on and on, I'dstill be talking right now.
Just as just as you could.
But talk more about what yousaid there about it was just
this switch that you flipped.
Like it sounds like to me,either there was some moment in
time where you were living lifeprobably a different way, and
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then either there was somethingthat came up that made you
recommit quickly, or some sortof significant event.
Because when I hear flip aswitch, I want to hear, okay,
what was before the switch?
SPEAKER_00 (05:42):
Yeah, um, really
good question.
So that switch, it was in aspecific moment with my cousin.
Um, I remember it was in 2018.
I was on a run with him.
A run back in the day would berunning to the pantry or the
fridge for a snack before I knewwhat a run was.
But we were on a run at uhEdistow Beach, and he was like,
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We're gonna run a mile and ahalf.
And I was like, sure, let's go.
I got that, no problem.
I was a baseball guy, I had alittle bit of a background in
running, quote unquote.
Um, and we took off and probably9 30, 10 minute pace, and I
probably fell out 400 meterslater.
And I set and he was like, Youwant me to wait on you?
I was like, man, no, go.
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I need to learn this lessonright now.
I need to know what this feelslike of falling behind and not
keeping up with the pack.
Um, and I let him go and Ireally and I walked for about a
mile and had this thought justgoing through my brain of like,
I am never going to experiencethis feeling ever again.
And it was a feeling of justshame and just why am I not like
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him?
Why can't I not do this?
And I made that commitment tomyself is you will never be in
the situation of doubtingyourself ever again, of quitting
on yourself, on doubtingyourself that you can run a mile
or just keep moving forward.
And ever since that day, I'mjust like, I'm going to put one
foot in front of the other, I'mgonna keep pushing forward no
matter what it takes.
And ever since they've justflipped a switch in terms of
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getting my healthy lifestyleback in front of myself, because
I just grew up as a kid whowould eat chicken nuggets and
kind of just do whatever um theworld would say of just your
average consumption of food anddidn't really know what
nutrition was growing up.
Um and then when I actuallyrealized it and realized that
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food was fuel for my body and Ican treat it well like a temple,
like we're supposed to do, um,everything changed.
But ever since that day, I justflipped a switch and I haven't
looked back.
And it's been able to, it'sreally it's really cool to
reflect on that dayspecifically, um, especially
when times get rough in some ofthese races where I'm like, you
made that commitment to yourselfand you don't want to fail
yourself.
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And you don't want to go back onyour word that you promised
yourself on that specific day,which has been really powerful
in some of these races where thepain cave is really settling in.
And I remember that day, whichis just extremely powerful.
SPEAKER_02 (08:05):
Yeah, it's always
cool to hear like what's the
genesis behind why someone iswho they are, what led to it,
because I don't believe anybodycomes out the womb and just
decides I'm gonna go run 100miles, or now what we're about
to do, 200 plus, and andtypically when people are
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committed to I would say thewhat some may deem as quote
unquote crazy enduranceadventures, there's some sort of
story or event or series ofevents that that that are behind
that.
So that commitment is made.
You can't run a 930 mile at thetime, which I know when you and
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I are running that pace now,sometimes it feels like we're
going on a walk until we'reabout 80 miles deep, and then it
feels like we're running about asix-minute mile, even just to
keep a 930 going.
But talk through that a littlemore, Ed.
Like, what do the following daysand weeks and months look like?
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Because you can say I'mcommitted, but then I know that
that next day and even that nextweek, and probably that next
month were extremelychallenging.
It's not like all of a suddenyou got fast or in shape, and
I'm sure that there was a lot oftemptations of that lifestyle
that you committed to leave thatwere still saying hey to you,
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hey, look at these chickennuggets, look at whatever.
So walk through those precedingbit of time and some of the the
battles you face there.
SPEAKER_00 (09:51):
Yeah, really good
question.
So with that, and I know it'sjust a big um commitment is a
big word for some people, and toactually follow through with
that is a big process.
Um and for me, I knew that mystory was already written and I
knew the version myself wasalready out there, and I wanted
to go chase it.
And that was my daily commitmentto myself of the version that I
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was trying to become.
What it was already there.
I just had to get there.
And definitely with some ofthose temptations of going back
to my old ways, whether it'sdrinking, whether it's you know,
eating like crap and just notfeeling good, the temptation is
always gonna be there.
But it's up to you within yourmind, your mindset, and your
discipline.
And I feel like a bigmisconception in the fitness
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world in general is like youwant to have that, and I relate
it to kind of my faith, is likeyou want to have a far faith,
not a fast faith.
Like you want to have thatlongevity of this isn't just for
a two-month block.
This is a lifestyle you'recompletely changing.
And there's just sacrifices thatyou have to make in order to
have goals that you want tochase.
Like if this comes in the way ofyour goal, then you're gonna
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have to eliminate.
It's as simple as that.
And that's just the factor of orthe underlying kind of problem
that people come into is like,is your goal worth it?
You know, is this stuff, is itsomething that I can completely
eliminate out of my life inorder to reach that goal?
And those were some of thethings where I had to make that
really hard decision with myselfis saying this instant
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gratification moment right nowisn't worth completely
eliminating this goal that I'mtrying to reach.
And at the time when I was justgetting started, it was just
weight loss and it was just kindof doing in a way I didn't
really have any structure to it.
So I was like pretty psychoticwith it.
I was really just like starvingmyself.
But once I found that healthybalance and knowing that this
can be a healthy, sustainedlifestyle, it was just night and
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day difference because I I wasfeeling good.
I was seeing the results, I wasgetting faster, but it wasn't in
a year and it wasn't in sixmonths.
It was in two plus years.
It was a showing up every singleday, finding those little wins,
finding those daily wins,starting up simple something as
simple as getting a morning win,waking up early.
I didn't like to wake up earlyfor the longest time because I
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was lazy.
You know, that's a that's a winthat I had to build within those
years of building thosedisciplines to continue to add
up within your lifestyle.
SPEAKER_02 (12:11):
Since we're so close
to a new year and you talked
about having a meaningful goal,because one thing I've learned
is that a goal in itself isreally just a pie in the sky.
But what matters the most is thesystem around it and the journey
that you're going to commit to.
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So as we're very close to 2026,what what's some advice that you
have to people to developmeaningful goals, or what is
something that you've learnedalong the way now, being
committed to goals for yearsthat are now best practices, so
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that you can eventually achievethem and move closer to them and
actually uh stick with thethings that you've committed to.
SPEAKER_00 (13:02):
I'd say choose the
hardest goal that you can
possible, but have it definitelyreasonable for you.
Like for me, it was the smallwins of like I'm gonna have I'm
gonna lose this amount of weightby this time.
And then that started to work,and then I would adapt.
And I think a very goodcharacteristic of somebody who's
gonna really have that sustainedsuccess, whether it's their
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goals, is they have those thosedaily, those monthly goals.
And it's not, it's yes, theyearly goals, but simplify it,
whether it's like a weekly goaland just put in those systems of
your week, of be reallyadjustable, is what I learned
growing and losing this weightin the journey that I have is
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like be really adjustable tolife because it's gonna throw
you the curveballs, you're gonnaget punched in the mouth.
But how you respond to that ofyour goal is what matters most.
And I feel like adverseadversity, because you're gonna
have the temptation, you'regonna have the trials, you're
gonna have the tribulations,it's gonna come, but how you
respond to that is ultimatelygoing to make you stronger in
the long run and you're gonnalearn a ton about yourself about
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if I can handle this sort ofpressure, handle these sort of
trials that come my way.
This is waiting for me on theother side, and it's gonna make
me a better version of myself ifI get through that challenge,
you know.
So I feel like if I was going torestart this quote unquote New
Year's resolution resolution orgoal for me, I would break it
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down into the month and say I'mgonna just do something in
January, I'm gonna do somethingin February, and just break it
really down to the T of like, uhyes, I'm gonna have my yearly
goals, but just really have thespecific goals that are
attainable to see those winsstack up because confidence is a
big thing to lead up into thesegoals.
Because I feel like a big thingwhen people just start, it's
that negative momentum that justit's it's one bad thing and in
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the in the wheels go off thetrack quick.
And then after that, it's it'syou're done for.
Um and it's just a matter of howyou just handle that adversity
when it comes your way, is theultimate thing.
SPEAKER_02 (15:03):
What helps you feel
more confident Ed over time, and
especially as you've taken onsome massive challenges and and
done extremely well, whether itbe the sub-three hour marathons,
high rocks, etc., a lot ofpeople ask, how do I build
develop confidence?
And I'm always curious in thevarious answers that come up.
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So when you say, you know,approaching things with
confidence, what is that?
What is what is that for you?
SPEAKER_00 (15:37):
Approaching things
with confidence in my eyes is
knowing and trusting yourselfbecause you put in the work
beforehand, whether it's a race,whether it's in job interview,
whether it's a conver a hardconversation, knowing that
you've intentionally preparedfor something beforehand is
gonna give you that confidenceno matter what.
Because you like I feel likewhen I go into something like
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that, I mentally go through thesituation before it actually
happens.
I replay it in my head.
I'm like, all right, this iskind of what I'm assuming, but
I'm prepared.
So I'm prepared for the worst,I'm prepared for the best.
But I'm gonna be ready forwhatever is gonna be there.
And I feel like that's just agood mindset to have of just
like replaying or going intowhatever situation you're in
with confidence, knowing thatyou've been there before.
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And then that will justtranslate to some positive
energy um going into it.
SPEAKER_02 (16:25):
Yeah, you you summed
it up though, is is action.
Like, and I figured that thatwas gonna be the response or
something along those lines,because I feel that a lot of
folks ask, how do you buildconfidence and motivation as if
it's something that you readfrom a book and then boom, you
grab it?
It's like no confidence andmotivation follow action.
(16:50):
Yeah.
And confidence especially is themore times you step into the
arena, whether you want to ordon't want to, and prove
yourself right, then you willbecome more confident.
I heard something really coolthe other day.
I was listening to a podcast andit talked about how you know how
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we gain certain emotions.
So again, like confidence ormotivation.
But the example was you don'tread about water and learn how
to swim.
You don't you don't read aboutrunning and then learn how to
run a marathon.
You gotta go and freaking do it.
Gotta go take action, put yourshoes on, left foot, right foot,
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go and start getting thingsdone, and boom, what will follow
that eventually is confidence.
So for you, you've surpassed thewell, you're about to surpass
the hundred mile distance.
Endurance is in your blood now.
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Do challenges like this stillscare you?
SPEAKER_00 (17:58):
100%.
And that's the whole point ofdoing it.
I feel like if the challengedoesn't scare you, it's it's not
big enough a challenge for you.
And I feel like that's one thingwhen someone asks me, like, you
know, how did you do that?
I I I don't know if I can do it.
I I just I'm gonna take the riskon myself every single time.
And it's like just posting onsocial media or whatnot, and
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just like putting yourself outthere for people to see.
And it's like, I want to inspirepeople to do that and inspire
and from my journey because likethe kid who I was 15, 16, like
you see that version of yourselfand you see yourself now, it's
like there's no shot that Ithought I'd be running 100
miles.
There was just a long journeyahead, and if you have the
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physical capability of doingthat, I feel like anything
anyone is is capable of doingwhatever they want if they have
the physical ability to do so.
SPEAKER_02 (18:52):
Yeah.
What what scares you about this200 mile journey that you and I
are about to embark upon acrossthe state of South Carolina?
SPEAKER_00 (19:03):
Uh the first thing
that comes to mind is just the
body.
Um, I feel like me and you havea good kind of relationship with
the pain cave um together,especially.
Um but yeah, just the unknownswith the body um and staying
healthy and staying on top ofnutrition, I think will do a
good job because we have somereally good people in our
corner.
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But just the unknown with withthe body and how it's gonna
respond to over a hundred,hundred and fifty miles.
Um just unknown territory, butthat's that's a good part.
That's that's the beauty,because we're gonna learn
something whether we you knoware in some crazy pain or we
feel great at 100 mile, 150.
We're gonna we're gonna takesomething from it, which is such
a blessing to do it.
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And the reason behind it all isjust you know our suffering is
gonna end.
SPEAKER_02 (19:48):
For sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, we're going out into uh intodeep, deep water.
But like you said, there's a lotof beauty that encompasses this
whole thing.
The the most beautiful thing iscertainly gonna be when we get
to meet these families.
Oh yeah.
That they don't know you and Iexist right now and be the be
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the answered prayer to them.
I believe that you know, doingthis the last couple years, and
I and I believe you'll feel thisas well in 11 days when when
we're when we're rolling is itit almost it's tough to describe
it until you're in the moment,but you kind of feel this
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heightened sense ofresponsibility that there are
people that don't even know whowe are, but they're counting on
us right now.
Like that's something that I'mexcited to feel again.
unknown (20:49):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (20:50):
You know, what are
so I said what scares you most,
but what's one thing or a fewthings that that excite you most
about what we're about to do?
SPEAKER_00 (21:00):
Um one, you just
nailed it.
Um just the feeling knowing thatwe're doing something so
incredibly hard for someone'sanswer prayer is like that, like
it gets me emotionally eventhinking about that.
I mean, literally, this issomeone's we're going into the
holiday season where you knowit's it's a terrible time for
some people.
And knowing that we're gonna beable to physically make an
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impact to help their lives alittle bit better in whatever
capacity that we're able to doso is my number one like thing
that's gonna be running throughmy head for sure.
Like it's just a blessing to beable to do that.
And knowing you have that in theback of your head, that's gonna
that's gonna compel us forwardfor however long we go, you
know.
Um, but more so I'm excited justto have some time with the boys.
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Uh, I feel like it's justdifferent seasons of life with a
lot of people who are gonna bethere with us.
Um, so it's just gonna be somegood camaraderie, a lot of
laughter, a lot of Ryan Cassstories, um, just a lot of
memories that we're gonna get tomake out there, which is gonna
be so beautiful to be out there,and hopefully just a lot of the
people that we get to inspirealong the way and and get to
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join us as well along thejourney.
And hopefully we don't gothrough a city without someone
running with us um at all, whichis which will be pretty cool.
SPEAKER_02 (22:13):
Yeah, no, it'll be a
lot of a lot of little Johnny
jokes too.
A little bit of a little bit ofeverything.
So the the recap of this when wewhen we sit down in a few weeks
and get to look back on all ofit, and it'll be a lot to
uncover.
So stay tuned.
Ed, I want to dig into yourheart some more, man.
I believe that's what I'velooked forward to really
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uncovering the most in theconversations.
I know if we wanted to, we couldtalk about running for hours, we
could talk about endurance forhours, but let's tap in more of
you.
What what what would you if ifyou had if you could craft your
ideal world and ultimatelyinfluence people to be more of
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something?
What would that be and why?
SPEAKER_00 (23:08):
Uh my number one
answer would be Jesus, 100%.
Um, the author and perfecter ofour faith.
Um, he is the reason that we arehere on this earth.
Um he came and lived a perfectlife because he knew that we
wouldn't, paid our debt for oursin.
Um so that'd be my ultimateanswer for that.
But if it wasn't Jesus, um itwould be someone who truly cares
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about the person that they'retalking to.
I feel like this world would bea lot better place if we just
loved each other um and actuallycared about each other, and a
good thing to know that thatperson who you're talking to
cares about you, and therewouldn't be so much hate in this
world.
I feel like love is so muchstronger than hate, and if we
had that mentality going intoevery single conversation that
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we had in this world, this worldwould be a lot better because
this this life is not about us,and if we live our life having
that mentality of we love thatperson so much that whatever
happens in this life, we chooselove every single time, this
world would be a lot betterplace.
There would not be as much crimeor violence or hate in this
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world if we just loved eachother.
Um I think that's just a biganswer for me would be just to
choose love, and love is so muchstronger than hate.
SPEAKER_02 (24:29):
Break that down for
someone that might be thinking,
okay, what does that mean?
Am I just supposed to say I loveyou all the time?
Or more so, what has you feelthat you are exhibiting love?
Like what is that?
What is your definition of it?
What what are you doing to thenhave you tell somebody else, hey
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man, that show show love.
What is your definition?
SPEAKER_00 (24:54):
Yeah, good question.
Um for me, it's beingintentional with people um in
every single conversation.
It's asking, going that extramile for people about how
they're doing, what makes good,just like you say all the time,
how are you doing?
Good, what makes good?
Going out of your way, how youcan serve them, just because the
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savior of the world, he camedown, he was servering, he
washed people's feet.
And if the savior of the worldcould wash someone's feet, I
feel like I can do the bareminimum and ask someone how
they're doing.
But I feel like if you can gothe extra mile and ask
intentionally someone howthey're doing, or how I can be
there for you, or how I can prayfor you, this world would be
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such a better place.
And if we I feel like that's whyI used to be extremely selfish
back in the day, very selfish,um, very egotistical, very
prideful until I met the love ofGod and I was like, wow, this
the creator of the universeactually loves me.
And I can translate that and Iwant to love people the way that
he loves me.
And it's instilled in my heartof if the savior of the world
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can wash feet and can domiracles, and I'm called to live
like him because he lives in me,like there's nothing that I am
too good for.
I want to be the lowest of thelow of people, and I want to
meet people in their lowestpoint and show them the love
that they're deserving of.
SPEAKER_02 (26:17):
Amen.
You know, it feels like there'sa a shift or a movement, perhaps
even the right thing to say as aas a calling, but I do feel and
see that there are more peoplearound our age, around our
demographic that are moving toGod and moving in their faith
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journey, starting their faithjourney.
As we are approaching this newyear, that's where a lot of
people start doing homework.
They start taking inventory,they start looking at their
goals, or they start looking atwhy they didn't write goals down
and how to start that in 2026.
So we're at this point now wherepeople start looking at what do
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I want to become more of, orwhat do I want to start, stop,
and continue?
More and more people, again,which is really cool to see, are
moving to faith, to God, togrowing a relationship with the
big man.
What are steps that yourecommend people take if that's
the choice they want in 2026?
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That hey, in 2026, or even rightnow, because the best day to
start anything that's on yourheart is right now.
Is well, the best day wasyesterday.
The second best day is righthere in this very moment.
Just we can take action.
So, with that, whatencouragement can you provide?
And can you also uh share acouple couple steps?
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So some people might think, oh,does that mean I have to
memorize the whole Bible?
Does that mean I have to go tochurch every single day?
How can we grow as stewards offaith in the coming year?
SPEAKER_00 (28:01):
Yeah, very good
question.
So, first one ultimately getplugged into a church.
Um, and that is the biggestthing and the hardest step, I
feel like, in the Christian walkis to get plugged into a church
because if it can beintimidating, um, especially to
go alone.
Um, just because I feel likethis church gets a bad
impression of just like, uh,like it's just kind of out of my
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comfort zone.
But once you actually and andfind a good church that is Bible
preaching, it is Christexalting, and that actually
teaches the Bible because theBible is literally a guidance
for your life.
Every decision that I make isbacked by scripture.
I literally will resonate it dayand my day in and day and night.
And I feel like just have andstep number two, I guess, going
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right into it would just be readGod's word.
Um, it is literally the creatorof the universe on a page.
Like he it is literally hiswords coming out on a page, and
it is literally direction foryour entire life and his design
and his heart for us, the way heloves us.
And like people kind of justfeel like it is in a historical
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event, but like this isliterally the way, the truth,
and the life.
It is in on a page.
And it is literally the waywe're supposed to live our life,
right in front of us.
And it literally, like I feellike that's a quote that I
always hear, it's like we readthe Bible, but in the grand
scheme of things, it reads us.
It truly does.
And when you resonate with thatand like actually understand the
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true gospel of Jesus and whatactually happened.
And I feel like that's there's abig kind of just misconception
between like just like faith andyou know, one foot in, one foot
out.
And I feel like you just have toget plugged into a church.
You have to be stay rooted inthe word.
And if you uh can do both ofthese things, you're gonna have
the right people.
You're gonna have someone who'sgonna be able to disciple you to
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show you the way to live likeJesus, to chase after him each
and every day.
Um, and the third, I feel likejust would be to die to yourself
daily.
Um, because that's kind of themain rule of a Christian is
you're gonna have to pick upyour cross and follow after
Jesus every single day.
Um, it says it in Matthew.
And it's really hard becausewe're so prideful, we're very
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egotistical as humans.
That's by nature.
We just are.
We all we're all broken sinnersin need of a savior.
And until we understand that andhumble ourselves before the Lord
every single day, we're gonna beliving this pride, egotistical
field, and nothing is ever gonnasatisfy except for Christ,
because we have means tosalvation by what he did on the
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cross.
He died for our sins.
He knew what we were going toliterally, he knew the sins that
we were gonna commit before hedid that, and the blood just
wash it away.
So I feel like just all in allwould be get plugged into a
church, read the Bible, and nomatter how confusing it seems
like it is, it'll start to underit'll start to make sense as
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soon as you read it.
It's just like with reps, withanything, whether it's running,
whether it's nutrition, you getit in.
And it's a lot of people willneglect their spiritual walk
over their physical walk.
And it just with anything, andit says in 1 Timothy, you have
to train yourself in godliness.
Physical appearance or physicalfitness is important for sure,
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but spiritual um fitness is waymore important in the grand
scheme of things, and growingyourself and in the faith and
your walk with the Lord, growingcloser to him, drawing near to
him, and making the time for it,making the intentional time to
spend time with the creator ofthe universe because he wants to
have a relationship with you.
Um would be kind of my biggestthing to recommend to people is
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read his word, pray.
And I feel like just people willask me all the time, you know,
how do I pray?
Is there a specific pray?
You're it is a conversation withthe living God.
I mean, if you don't find peacein that, that the living God,
the creator of the universe,wants to have a relationship
with you, and you can cry out tohim and you can talk to him, and
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it is peace-filled.
Like it is a conversation, justlike I'm talking to you right
now.
I'm talking I'm talking to theLord.
There's no different.
You don't have to have any ofthis scripted prayer write off a
piece of paper.
You can cast your worries on himand you can pray right there,
just like a conversation, andjust have that burden just
lifted off your heart and castthem at his feet.
SPEAKER_02 (32:20):
When people say that
they have conversations with
God, what does that how doesthat appear for you?
So I've heard various thingswhere people do hear spoken
words.
People it comes up in differentways.
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And then some people mayquestion, like, is that just my
thought?
Or is that the big man?
How am I supposed to know thedifference?
So what's your what's yourexperience with that?
SPEAKER_00 (32:53):
Yeah, so a big thing
that you really see is when
you're intentionally when yougive your life to Christ, you're
born again.
You have the Holy Spirit withinside of you.
And that is a feeling that islike no other.
And you are literally discerningthe fact of it's your flesh or
the Holy Spirit that you'relistening to each and every
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time.
So your flesh is going to wantevery single worldly possession,
every single temptation righthere.
But the Holy Spirit, you'regonna have this conviction in
your heart of, is this what Iactually should be doing right
now?
Or is this my flesh talking?
And you want to kill the fleshevery single time.
So when people ask me, you know,how do you know this is from the
Lord, or how do you know this isfrom the devil?
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Like the devil is out to steal,kill, and destroy every single
action or every single thoughtthat you have in your head.
It's that's the devil, everysort of temptation.
So for me, I really just go tolike a quiet place, or like I'm
I'm always praying.
I'm praying all the timethroughout the day.
But if I really want to beintentional, I really want to
seek the Lord, I'm gonna go to aquiet place and I'm just gonna
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be still.
I'm gonna turn my brain off, I'mgonna turn every single
distraction off, I'm gonna openhis word, I'm just gonna seek
him, and I'm just gonna hearfrom him.
And you know, I feel like you'regonna be able to tell if this is
from the Lord or if this is fromjust your flesh or the devil.
And I feel like a big thing thatI recommend to people is just to
be still, and there's a lot ofways to go about that, whether
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it's, you know, truly fasting,um, literally from food.
It's it's in the Bible, fastingand truly being able to actually
hear from the Lord and justbeing intentional, repetition,
whether it's prayer and knowing,and literally being in the word,
because God's design, God'sheart, God's posture towards us
is literally written in theword.
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So if your heart is rooted inscripture, that's where it's
gonna breathe from.
Just like with anything.
If you read a book, you're gonnalearn from it.
If you read the Bible, you'regonna learn from it.
You're gonna know about God'sheart, his purpose, his design,
his life for you.
And a big thing now to live mylife for is obviously to make
disciples, but I want to growinto the person God is creating
me to be.
And that is improving daily.
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It is within my relationships,whether it's my friendships,
whether it's the job, myconversations I'm having, it's
just there's so many things thatyou just have a way to make an
impact on people and show thelove that Christ has for you.
Like every single conversationthat I leave, I want to make
sure that Christ was exalted andthat they were walked away
loved, no matter the situation.
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And that's why I go about my wayof like, you know, you could be
totally distant within thefaith, and you know, there's
sometimes I'm not gonna shoveChristianity or Jesus down your
throat, but I'm gonna love youand I'm gonna show the love of
Christ to you because I wantsomeone to walk away saying,
what's different about Edwin?
And he has the joy of the Lordwithin his heart.
And I want people to know that.
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And I don't want any, I don'twant any sort of crown above
that.
I want to lay that back to theLord, but I want to know, I want
to have people walk away fromthe conversation feeling
refreshed and loved and knownthat they were actually pursued
and intentionally seen by meevery single time.
SPEAKER_02 (36:01):
Sometimes when I'm
talking to you, I can't tell if
I'm speaking to the mid-20sperson that you are or someone
that's just been preaching forfor decades.
I love your wisdom and insights.
And again, that's why I wantedto have more of a conversation
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at first on your heart, becauseI believe, Ed, that that's what
stands out about you the most.
You know, not the fitness, notthe podcast, the high rocks, the
all the other things.
And I know that that's what youwould want people to really know
the most about you is hey, it'syour your heart, but more so
your faith, and that you trulyare, truly are a man of the word
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and a man of your word, and thatyou do what you say you're gonna
do and you live life to the bestof your ability in the way that
you describe to people here.
It's not here's how I live mylife, and then on the behind the
scenes it's something completelydifferent.
Like this is this is truly,truly Ed Edwin Martin coming
out.
(37:09):
So I love it, man.
What's a difficult battle thatyou've had with your faith
though, where maybe even eventhough you're very deeply rooted
in it and well versed and havebrought a lot of people to
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knowing God, knowing knowingJesus.
Just like any relationship,there are difficult moments
where it makes you question itor hey, is this really a thing?
And I'd love to know what is onein particular for you that maybe
you've thought, okay, this is mynext step.
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And then he said, uh-uh, nope,this is what I'm showing you,
dude.
Or something along those lines.
SPEAKER_00 (37:57):
Yeah, it's a really
good question.
So the immediate thing thatcomes to mind for me is there's
this thing called spiritualwarfare, and it's real.
Um, the enemy, just like Italked about earlier, it he is
out to steal, kill, and destroyeverything that you try to claim
for yourself.
You know, and it's there's a lotof times in my life where I'm
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just like I was really hesitantto make the decisions.
And I really learned fromexperiences like being obedient
is taking that first step andjust opening that door and
closing some when you know,prompted to do so.
Um and I feel like a big time inmy life that was very massive
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was when I was in ministry and Ihad to close the door on that
and I had to go all in with thebusiness.
It was super scary, and I justdidn't really know where I stood
at that point because I was onefoot in, one foot out, and I had
to talk really intentionallytalk to Sean.
I was like, the Lord has reallycalled me into this.
This is following my dream, thisis following my passion.
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And there was one thing that Ihad to surrender, and that was
being in ministry.
And I really had to surrenderthat because I loved it and I
loved the conversations and thepeople that I got up into in
that organization, but I had torealize that my ministry was are
my clients and the people thatare right in front of me, and
that I could still have thetitle of ministry in my
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business.
So there's a time where and Iwas really just praying and just
trying to seek the Lord on someguidance for that.
And there was a season where Iwas at just didn't have a ton of
clients, and I was really justquestioning, I was like, is this
God's plan for my life?
Is this really what I'm calledto do?
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So I was very hesitant.
And I feel like a big part ofpeople's testimony is stepping
out of the boat and taking thatleap of faith of I don't know
what is next, but I'm going totrust that the Lord has the plan
for my life.
And knowing that and leavingthat in his hands and that he
has good plans, he has very goodplans for your life, and
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actually truly believing that inyour heart that he's going to
provide that next dollar becausehis will for my life is so much
better than my will that I couldever script up in my head.
And knowing that and believingthat is that one thing that is
like gives me peace, that I knowGod's will will prevail over my
plan, my presumption of how mylife should be, and knowing that
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God's design for my life is somuch greater than what I could
ever imagine.
Mine could look like if my dumbself scripted it up by myself.
And having peace knowing thatthat decision was, yes, it's
been fruitful, but it's beenhard.
And I feel like the life of aChristian, it only gets harder
because you're gonna havespiritual warfare.
You're gonna have followingJesus is hard.
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It's very hard.
Yes, there's awesome testimoniesand the miracles of of God and
for Him providing and stuff, butfollowing Jesus' heart is not
like the world.
It the world will tell you to doa gajillion things, and the word
tells you to do 3,000 thingsdifferently.
So you have to say no, you haveto stand firm in the faith,
rooted in the word, and makingsure that you discern yourself
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that you are not following theways of the world and you're
following after Jesus and hisexample that he set before us.
So if anything, I feel like it'swe have a means to salvation
from Jesus.
Yes, we get to spend eternitywith him, but the life of a
Christian, it is continualbattle every day until we are in
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glory with Christ, you know, inheaven.
So it's like I would I'm I wouldnever come on here and candy
cane say that the life of aChristian is is is easier
buttercup because it's acontinued battle every single
day.
It's you literally wake up andyou put on the armor of God
every single day, and it's abattle.
Just like with anything,anybody.
If you're a man of faith or not,life is hard.
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It'll beat you up.
But how you respond iseverything and what you stand
firm on.
And that's why I'm just like, Idon't know how I went 15, 16,
17, 18 years of my life withouta faith.
Because I was clinging to thingsof this world that are so
temporary.
And the word of God lastsforever.
I know where I'm going when Idie.
You know, and if I can livefreely in that and show others
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that God has a big plan fortheir life and I want to get the
best out of them because God hassuch a potential for them to
fulfill.
And people will go 30, 50, 60,80 years of their life never
fulfilling that potential ofGod's plan for their life
because they were complacent orthey didn't take that leap of
faith.
And that's what my one of mymain goals in my life is, is
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bring that out of people.
You know, I I see things inpeople that they might not see
in themselves, and I want tobring it out because the last
thing I want to do is get toheaven and and God's like, well,
I had this for you and I hadthis for you, but you did this
instead.
And I want to continuously makesure that does not happen each
and every day by doing the hardthing, getting out of my comfort
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zone and following God's willfor my life every single day.
And that's continuously showingup, being obedient.
Because being obedient is hard,it's very hard, but it's
ultimately worth it in the end.
SPEAKER_02 (43:07):
There's a quote from
one of my favorite books, Who
Not How, and the author, DanSullivan, he's faith-based, and
he talks about the definition ofhell, which I believe I've I've
shared with you before, but it'sbasically similar to what you
just said is that the definitionof hell is that you live your
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life and then you go up toheaven, you go up to the big
man, you're about to be let intothe gates, and then you're
introduced to the person thatyou could have become, or to the
person that you know God hadintended for you to be the whole
time.
And you don't get to you don'tget to go back, like alright,
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yeah, God send me back, youknow?
You're you're already up there,dude.
So and by living, what I'mhearing you say is that by
living truly, uh by followingyour faith journey, even when it
gets difficult there shouldn'tbe a introduction to who you
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could have become because youare going to become that person
along the way and and stickingon the path and pushing through
even when you think one thing,but this is what the word says,
and you know that that's whatyou want to abide to.
So I want to switch gears goingback to our journey a little
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bit.
I believe I texted you either atthe beginning of the year or you
had you have the screenshot ofit.
I know that this was a goal thatI wrote down last year going
into this year.
But what made you say yes to it?
Like, I want to do this thing.
SPEAKER_00 (44:53):
Um without a doubt,
um, if you asked me to do
something and I gave you myword, there's no doubt that I'm
going back on it.
But for me to say yes to thisand knowing what you've been
able to build with the breakingribbons and the impact and the
pictures and the stories and thetestimonies of the lives you've
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changed, it's like there's noquestion in my head that I want
wouldn't want to be a part ofit.
Because if I can play a smallrole in doing this and spamming
the link and casting vision andhelping you and coming alongside
with you within your ministry ofhelping these people, there's no
brainer.
Like, do and just like the pointthat you always say to me is
just like our suffering is suchtime suffering, and we know that
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there's going to be an endpoint.
And the people that we'regetting to bless with these
finances and these money, like,they have no idea.
And they could lose their lovedone.
But whatever that small impactof money that we can give them
and bless them with could changetheir trajectory of their life
forever.
And we just don't know that.
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And like, that's the beauty ofthat, of knowing what you've
done with breaking ribbons andthe people that you've gotten to
bless already in the past andthat continuously want to pour
into you and donate because ofwhat you've started.
And there's no question that ifyou ask me to do it, even just
the idea is like, if can Ipartner with you at all in any
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sort of form, there's no shot.
Any sort of question that Iwould have in the back of my
head of not wanting to be partof something so special.
Because I feel like with a lotof these endurance stuff and
doing the hard thing and youknow, running these crazy races,
if you don't have a why or areason behind it or who of why
you're doing it, it's someaningless.
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Because, like that finish lineof short temporary pleasure of
praise of yourself that you justwant to give yourself a pat on
the back and absolutely youworked so hard for it.
But imagine that feeling thatyou upped Annie and did it for
something other than you.
That feeling goes millions ofmiles farther than you could
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ever imagine of just pattingyourself on the back saying, We
did it, yes, we did it.
But imagine the lives that youcould change by just doing
something as simple as afundraiser.
Literally a link and being ableto bless people with something.
That ultimately is why I there'sno way in the world that I would
say no, knowing that we canchange someone's lives in
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however the ways that we don'teven know how it's gonna change
it, which is even the coolestpart about it, you know, just
having the opportunity to do so.
There's no shot I would ever sayno.
SPEAKER_02 (47:31):
Yeah, no, I I I I
can't wait.
And I know you have thescreenshot.
I think you put it on one of theearlier posts.
I I wonder what I actually said,but that's something that again,
going back to what I appreciateabout you, but then also the
encouragement that I give topeople listening is that you
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know, if you say you're going todo something, and this is why I
love Ed so much, one of the manyreasons why is hey, you go and
do that thing.
If you say that you're gonnacome show up at four o'clock in
the morning to go work out or doa crazy bridge run or whatever
random crazy idea I have withlike six hours notice for the
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next day, then your word is yourword.
And if your word can't be taken.
I don't even know what to tellyou.
Yeah.
So yeah, but we'll have to goback and look at what the heck
did I actually what the heck didI actually tell you.
SPEAKER_00 (48:37):
But I just I just I
just found it.
I I got to pull it up.
What did I say?
It was um we were talking aboutthe 150 last year, and he said,
Come and join me for the bridgerun, going to do 150 this year,
um, or doing or up for doingthat plus something else.
Even thought about runningacross the state of South
Carolina, that'd be fun.
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And I said, absolutely wouldlove to join.
Running across South Carolinawould also be epic as well.
Definitely in to startbrainstorming something along
those lines.
You said the harder and harderand crazier, the better.
And he's and we said, and Isaid, would be epic to run
across the state in the summerwould make it a thousand times
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harder.
And you said that plus havingsome sort of time goal would
love to do it in three days orsomething like that.
And I said, absolutely, let's doit.
SPEAKER_02 (49:28):
I guess we got most
of it right, minus the summer
part, but you know, I I kind ofhope that I mean winter offers
its own challenges as well.
Like the colder it is, thebetter.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, I wouldn't mind if itwas snowing the whole frickin'
time.
I don't care.
SPEAKER_00 (49:49):
And this was on May
1st, um, 2024.
SPEAKER_02 (49:52):
So I I I'll tell
you, I've I've started to just
how my brain works, especiallyif I go long run.
I mean, you know, like that'sjust where I start thinking
about things.
And uh, for folks listening,this is again most of the crazy
challenges I think of or thoughtof while probably doing some
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crazy challenge like in themoment.
And yeah, I've already kind ofstarted thinking through what
2026 is gonna be.
Got a couple ideas.
SPEAKER_00 (50:27):
Yeah, you might have
to spill those.
Uh oh.
SPEAKER_02 (50:29):
One I'm thinking
about right now is in December
again.
A marathon a day every singleday for the whole month.
But then how cool would it bethat in every marathon, just
like with what what's reallycool is these last two years
doing the the hundred mile onthe bridge and the one fifty on
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the bridge, and then similar andsame thing with what you and
Sean did with Stony this year,the Stony 100.
Uh to me, I believe the coolestthing is a the impact in the
lives of others.
Like that is above anything thatanyone does.
So bare nuts.
But then secondly, the secondcoolest thing is the people that
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come out and run further and andharder than they ever have in
their life.
So there's people coming out inthe last two bridge runs I've
done that if that are doingtheir first marathons, their
first ultra marathons, theirfirst half marathons, and we saw
that at the Stony 100 as well.
So I'm thinking if I do amarathon a day every single day,
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that provides 31 opportunitiesfor hundreds, if not thousands,
of people to come join me forone, some, or all of them, and
they too can go and push theirbody and mind further and harder
than than they ever have.
And then we, all of us involved,get to help people that are
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again going through somethingthat's infinitely harder than
what we're gonna be doing.
SPEAKER_00 (52:09):
Yeah, that's good.
And just like we did the 13.1 umlast year in August, like that
was one of the coolest thingsthat I took away from the entire
challenge was the amount ofpeople that got inspired by us
doing that and wanted to have apart of it.
And little did they know theywould have a breakthrough in
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their own, their own life ortheir own physical, you know,
journey with running or whateverit is, you know.
You just never know the peoplethat you're gonna be able to
impact, and that's why trulyliving what you preach is
ultimately the most importantthing that you could ever do in
your life, being a man of yourword for sure.
SPEAKER_02 (52:48):
Yeah.
Uh yeah, I I believe that we'llnever truly understand even the
what the impact of this is gonnabe.
100%.
Because in and even if weinspire one person to maybe
start a fundraiser or whatever,or just do something that's
bigger than them.
Maybe they tell us, maybe theydon't.
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Maybe they tell us five yearsfrom now, and then you know, the
seed that we planted, becausereally all we're doing is
planting seeds for for goodnessin this world.
I believe that's really simplyput, zoomed out of everything
else.
That's that's what we're doing.
That, you know, maybe that seedwe planted for one person this
year is something that evolvesinto a bountiful harvest five
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years later that we then get tolearn about.
It's like, how cool is that?
So I believe that changing theworld doesn't require running
across the state of SouthCarolina or uh doing something
extreme.
It changing the world starts byhelping one person by being
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committed to something that'sdeeply meaningful to you,
whether whether it is running orendurance or it could be
anything, but something that isis truly strikes you at the
heart.
Ed, I've had this conversationwith folks on the pod this year,
switching things up a little bittowards the end, where I want to
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know what winning means topeople.
Because I've come to change thedefinition of it over the years,
and it's completely removed fromany sort of outcome.
Meaning that maybe if you asked15 years ago what winning was, I
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might have told you that it wasa wrestling state title or
something along those lines.
Now it couldn't be further froman outcome.
So we're on the Win Todaypodcast, but if I asked you what
is winning, like winning is dotdot dot.
What is that for you?
SPEAKER_00 (55:01):
Um just like you
said, my answer probably 18
years ago probably would havebeen um some sort of
accomplishment or end resultthat would have been for my own
gain.
But winning today, in my eyes,is if I told someone about Jesus
in the day.
Um and if I truly poured myheart out to intentionally have
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a conversation with him andshowing them the love of Christ
every single day would be mywinning.
And obviously, there's no goodworks that is gonna that are
gonna get us into heaven, but atthe same time, I'm gonna do
whatever I can do to go out ofmy way to share the love of
Jesus to somebody, whether it'sa homeless guy on the street or
it's a person I don't know thatI can bless at the grocery store
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by to asking them how they'redoing, I'm gonna go out of my
way to love someone and sharethem, share the show them the
love of Christ that they mightnot have ever experienced
before.
And I'm gonna be that person whosteps in to show them that.
Um and I feel like a lot of wejust kind of going back to the
previous conversation.
Um, a lot of times that I'veseen God move the most is just
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to have a willing heart to sayyes.
Um, just say yes.
You never know what is on theother side of your yes, and
that's going back to saying yesto this challenge.
It's just the beauty of theunknowns of the impact that
you're gonna make is sobeautiful because the unknown
scares so many people.
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So many people.
It'll that fear will factor inof you don't know what's gonna
come.
And and in my eyes, that'sbeautiful because that's
obedience.
That's stepping out of yourcomfort zone and doing it, and
that's winning, in my eyes, isbeing obedient, saying yes,
obviously using discernment, butsaying yes to the right things
because you never know theimpact that you're gonna make on
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someone else's lives oreternity, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (56:53):
What advice would
you give somebody to craft a
meaningful relationship ordefinition with the concept and
word winning?
Hmm.
Great question.
SPEAKER_00 (57:09):
I would say it's
like just like a word or like a
method that people wouldapproach to?
SPEAKER_02 (57:18):
Yeah, like if
someone were to I just heard
your definition of it, but if Iwas gonna ask you more simply,
hey Edwin, how how can I basedoff that maybe my definition's
not what you said, but how can Icraft uh what appears to be a
meaningful and deep definitionfor it that's that's my own.
SPEAKER_00 (57:41):
I would really say
to search yourself, to really
find deep inside of your soulwhat sets it on fire, you know,
and it's gonna be different foreach and every person that gets
them up every going, like out ofbed every single day.
And find that thing that setsyour soul on fire and never let
it lose that spark ever.
(58:01):
Because the day that you losethat spark, you're you're done
for.
You just find it that literallygets you out of bed and it stirs
you to keep going.
And that's where when you findthat thing and you have that
deep down in your heart and yoursoul, you you can keep going in
some of these tough timesbecause you, whatever that is,
your your soul is on fire forit.
(58:22):
So I'd say if I'm recommendingsomeone, I would say find
something that you're sopassionate about, whether it's
your faith, which I pray it is,or your hobbies, or your job, or
your relationships, or yourwife, or your husband, find that
thing and absolutely just pursuewith all of your heart.
And you'll never lose thatmomentum when it means that much
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to you every single day.
Just choose it.
Choose it every single day whenyou get out of bed.
SPEAKER_02 (58:49):
Amen to that.
What's one book that yourecommend people read in 2026
that can help them sharpen uptheir mindset?
SPEAKER_00 (58:59):
For me, mine would
be The Awe of God by John
Brevere.
Um, it really gives a good umjust overview of what fearing
God means.
Um, and I don't want to spoil itfor anybody, but the all of God
by John Brevere and it'll changeyour life.
SPEAKER_02 (59:15):
Yeah, I always love
to ask books, book
recommendations, because nowI've got this massive list from
guests over the years and himturning it into a little running
guest list, so or running booklist that we'll have featured on
the on the website someday.
Ed, how do we keep up with youand support you?
What's the best way to do that?
SPEAKER_00 (59:36):
Uh it would be on
socials, Instagram.
My Instagram is Ironsned, uhlong backstory on that one.
But yeah, that would be the mainsource of contact.
And like Ryan previously gave usa shout-out.
Um, the Revitalized Podcast wereon uh Spotify.
Um The Revitalize Podcast and onInstagram as well as for a
business page.
SPEAKER_02 (59:58):
Yeah, folks, keep up
with it.
Ed, Ed, love you, brother.
Can't wait to share these mileswith you and this journey across
the state, and then eventuallycome back and recap the
experience for folks.
And I know there's gonna be alot of lessons learned, a lot of
funny things, probably some paincave moments that will
eventually also become funnythings and things we'll laugh
(01:00:20):
about for the years to come aslong as we both get to to walk
on these to walk on thesegrounds.
We'll be joking about them, man.
So can't wait.
And uh recapping really what youyou said and and what I'll put
out as encouragement in 2026 aswe go into the new year is is be
(01:00:43):
love.
Be love.
I believe that's really whatwhat be be love and faith and
win today.
Thanks so much.