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Speaker 2 (00:34):
How we doing everybody and welcome into
Wisconsin.
Sports on the go with Trage.
I'm your host, trage, it is aFriday here in the state of
Wisconsin.
We made it to the weekend.
It's telling me next week issupposed to be just blistery
cold out there.
So I can't wait.
I can't wait for the cold.
It's like you get out of it fora couple days, you get some 30s

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and then all of a sudden it'sjust like boom, there you go.
Global warming is not real.
That's what they keep.
This weather keeps telling meright now.
I'm just joking, just jokingfor everybody out there.
I'm just joking.
I don't know, but I know it'scold right now.
So we got lots to get intotonight.
Aaron, how are we doing on thisFriday?

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, not too bad.
A lot going on over here, butyeah, not too bad, honestly it's
.
You know we'll round the cornerin the Monday with the college
you know national championship,which I think gets forgotten
about already just because ofthe timing of it.
But that's kind of unfortunatejust because it's like that's

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the last college game.
But hey, we got the NFLplayoffs rocking and rolling.
And then I mean, as you know,we'll talk baseball tonight, not
for the best reasons, but we'lltry and keep it high spirits,
as who we will talk about wouldwould want us to.
And, and speaking of that, youknow we just, you know, before
you know, pitchers and catcherswill report.
So just kind of like a weirdtime in sports right now.

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But um, not complaining, youknow, not complaining.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
No, not complaining at all, and you know it, it's
just a crappy, crappy week,that's all that it was.
Um, you know, they always askyou those little things that you
do in life and you're likewhere were you when this, you
know, this happened, or thishappened, or this happened?
It's like where was I when bobuker passed away?
Like when, when I found out andit I was, honestly I was

(02:17):
working I was standing in themiddle of a cow barn and I was
getting my uncles calling me andI'm like I can't answer the
phone'm busy right now.
And then all of a sudden mywife's texting me and she's like
did you see this, did you seethis?
And I'm like I can't open uplinks right now, so I have no
idea what's going on.
And then, like half an hourlater, I walk out, look at my
phone and I'm like you have gotto be kidding.
Like no way, like no way, noway.
This is the truth of 90.

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And when I like I didn't thinkyou know, I didn't know Bob,
right, I didn't know Bobpersonally, like neither one of
us did, we didn't know Bobpersonally, but I don't know
when I heard that, like I justsat there and like we were my,
my coworker and I, we weredriving to the next farm we were
going to and I'm just kind ofjust in my own world, just you
know, driving, just driving, notsaying a word, and he's not

(03:10):
much of a baseball fan, he's not, he's not much of a baseball
fan at all, like, doesn't knowmuch about baseball, I mean.
But sorry, he tries, he triesto talk to me about it, but he
doesn't, I mean he doesn't talkbaseball.
And he turns and he looks at meand he goes this is a crappy
day, that's all it says, andthat's just.
That tells you how much hemeant to the state of Wisconsin,
not just baseball fans, but tothe state of Wisconsin.

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I mean, it was just when I tellyou something could devastate
you like that.
That was devastation at itsfinest.
Like he was a friend, withoutknowing that he was your friend
and I think he knew that hewanted you to know that in your
worst times, in your best times,he was your friend and I think
he knew that he wanted you toknow that in your worst times,
in your best times, he was yourfriend.
He was there.
You turned on the radio, whetherit was during the workday, or

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it was on the weekends, oryou're out on the boat or
whatever you were doing.
You just turned on the radioand there was Bob and he made
spring feel like summer and hemade summer feel amazing and
it's just a voice that I don'tthink is ever going to be
replaced.
I don't, and I was sittingthere and I was listening to his
calls and some of the callsthat he made, some of the big

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moments and everything like thatright, robin Yount breaking
records and the walk-off homeruns that the Brewers have had
over the years.
Ryan Braun with a walk-offthere put the Brewers in the
playoffs, christian Yelich andBraun going back-to-back.
His last call that he ever hadof a home run was Jackson Churio
hitting a grand slam againstthe Cardinals.
That's mind-boggling.

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I mean you're talking about theyoungest baseball players in
the game right now and BobUecker getting to call that and
just the amount of calls thathe's had over the years that
were just breathtaking.
I mean just breathtaking Likehe made the game of baseball fun
, he made it come to life andthat's.
That's the thing that you can'treplace in the game these days.
You can't, I mean you.

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You turned on a baseball gameand I tell you what you couldn't
tell if the Brewers were down20 to nothing or if they were
winning 20 to nothing, like youdidn't know, because it was Bob.
It was just always Bob, givingyou the best that he had, every
single day.
Then you find out that back in2023, he was diagnosed with
cancer.

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He came to games after gettingtherapy.
Come to games and he'd stillcall him.
Just the drive that he had, thepassion nobody would have you.
I couldn't have told you that.
I could not have told you thatfor two years this guy has been
battling lung cancer.
I could not have told you that.
It's just unreal what he wasable to do.
The mic came on, he sat behindthat mic and the lights came on

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and he was just bob.
The rest of it was done.
You wouldn't have known it andthey don't make them like that
anymore.
They don't like Bob was adifferent kind of dude and I I
know I know we're going to getlong winded with that, but I
mean that was.
And then you hear some of thethe Jeff Levering talk about him
and Lane Grindle, and you knowyou listen back to Christian

(06:00):
Yelich and I remember last yearwhen I heard and we said it
right here on the show because Ilistened back to the show we
did on I believe it was October4th of 2024.
I listened back to that showand it was after the Brewers
lost that playoff game and thatwas the day I had you listen to
Jeff Levering on the final radiocall.
That day and I told you pointblank that day I said I don't

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know if Bob Euchre is going tocall another baseball game.
It just felt that way.
It just felt, when JeffLevering was signing off, that
there was something up.
Because you hear announcers getinto the emotions, they get
emotional, they ride it out withthe team, they get emotional.
But the way Jeff was that day,that was different.
You felt something different.
Like you felt heartbrokenbecause the Brewers just lost,

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but that was different.
You felt something different.
Like you felt heartbrokenbecause the Brewers just lost,
but you knew that they're comingback the next year.
Like you didn't, you didn'tthink anything about it, but
when I listened back to Jeff, Ilistened back to it.
Today I listened back to thatsame video and of the other guy
I can't remember who posted iton Twitter when I saw it, but he
recorded his radio technicallyand it was of that Jeff Levin
signing off and when you heardJeff talk it was just like

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heartbreak.
But now you look back and it'slike it's for a different reason
.
It was for a different reasonthere.
So, yeah, we want to rememberBob today.
We want to remember Bob Anybodywho is in the comment section
tonight or is watching anothershow or wants to hit the text in
line.
I don't have it up there.
I completely forgot about itthere.
We got text in line right belowus there.
If you want to text the number,give us your best Bob Euker

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stories.
If you met him, let us know howyou met him, what was going on,
what was the circumstances whenyou saw him, everything like
that.
We'd love to hear your storiesabout him.
We did miss our first mark.
We want to do something specialtonight.
We want to give facts andeverything about bob, some
stories, and that we were goingto do the three minute mark
because bob buecher has threehome runs against future hall of

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famers when he was playing thegame.
So aaron missed the threeminute mark.
But let's hit the first onehere.
What do you got for me for yourfirst fact or story about bob
buecher there um, yeah, there's.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
So I mean there's so many ways we could go with this
because, like, like, the specialthing about him, I mean
obviously, you think about themovie he played in.
I kind of want to just get intothe TV series just a little bit
, only because this is such alike, it's just a funny
comparison, right, he appearedin more episodes of Mr Belvedere
118 episodes of that show, sotalk about a personality, right,

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spins it off to a TV show, thenthe game, then then games for
the Braves in three seasons.
So you know he appears in 10more episodes than he appears in
in, you know, 10 less games perse for the Braves.
So just like a guy that I meanthat's like transcendent, right,
like you think of, like, kindof I don't want to make straight
comparisons, right, but likeJohn Madden, right, like just

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bigger than the game, like youknow, I mean there's guys that
just and like johnny carson,calling him mr baseball, like
johnny carson, the guy the thenightly host nowadays don't even
hold it.
Like johnny carson ran latenight like he's the reason why
those guys he paved the way foreverybody else, really.
So johnny carson calling youknow, uh, bill, that mr baseball

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, like that's or I'm sorry Bob,mr Baseball, that's, that's huge
, like that's, like that's ahuge.
Like Johnny Carson tips or tipshis cap, like then you've made
it.
You know what I mean, becauseJohnny and Bob like made him
laugh.
You know he got invited to theshow more than 100 times it's
another little fact there but hemade him laugh Like few people

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could, because Johnny Carsoncould make anybody laugh, but
not not just anybody could makeJohnny Carson laugh, so Bob can
make anybody laugh.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Your worst days, your best days, he can make you
laugh.
If you were having a bad day.
You turn on the radio.
You listen to Bob tell a storyabout his past.
It just it made you laugh.
You couldn't help but smile andbe happy when you're listening
to Bob Uecker on the radio there.
So we do have another one.
I'm sorry we're going to doubleup here because we got a little
long with our opening there,but nine, the jersey number nine
for Bob Uecker there.
So, aaron, what do you got forthat nine-minute mark?

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What do you got for that factor story about Bob there?

Speaker 3 (10:01):
So this is another like weird one.
But he got as many hits in themade, in the big leads, as Danny
Ainge uh played.
So he played as many 1042 NBAgames as Danny Ainge like hits.
It's a weird comparison, but itlike lines up with the exact
amount of.
It's just weird, right, likeit's one of those number facts

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I'll get you some better onesbut that was just like weird,
right.
Um, and he started like kind ofgive you another one, that's a
little bit better.
I don't love that one.
But he, uh, he started the gameas like he started playing
baseball as a pitcher, like thatwas where.
But then obviously he, hetranscends transitions into a
catcher, in which you knowthat's how he paved his way in
the major leagues.
But he often said like I wantedto be a pitcher, like if he, if

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it were up to him, if he couldsay, you know, god, give me all
the talent to be a pitcher, Ithink that's where he would have
ended up.
And like, just interesting,because you go from pitcher to
catcher, it's like thatcohesiveness you know, like if
you're a catcher, maybe you wantto be a pitcher of your pitcher
, you want to be a catcher.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
So the easiest way to catch a knuckleball just wait
for it to stop rolling.
That's what Bob would alwaystell you the easiest way to stop
it all in there.
So we want to.
You know, like I said before,we're not the.
You know, we didn't know Bob.
You got all these other showsout there, people who knew Bob

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and they were able him in thebest stinking way.
We know how.
And we want to talk aboutBrewer baseball because that's
what he wants.
He wants us to think about whatthis Brewers team is going to
do this upcoming season to.
I maybe just maybe bring aWorld Series back to the city of
Milwaukee.
Maybe, just maybe.
Right, that's what he wants usto focus on.
So that's what we're going todo.
I know he's sitting in thefront row up there and he's like
let's go, let's get this, let'sget this city a World Series
there.
I'm going to be honest with you,and I tweeted this out the
other day.
I said I don't give an F whatyou have to do, mark Ananasio, I

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don't care if you got to maketrades, I don't care if you have
to spend some money, I don'tcare what you got to do.
You got to go.
Field me a team to win a WorldSeries.
Go field me a team to give afighting shot.
Just go do it.
I, I don't know what more youneed.
The city is gonna back you likeno other.
The city is gonna back you likeno other at this point.
The state is gonna back youlike no other.

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They, the state, was lost.
I'll be honest.
They were lost with this news,like devastated, like it was,
almost like the whole thingcould have shut down and nobody
knew what's happening there.
So I'm looking at at now.
I'm like Mark, go do somethingfor me, get this team a world
series of some sort.
So I'm looking at this thingright now.
And we had some questions weposted out there.

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We had some questions aboutwhat we think this team is going
to do or needs to do going intothis upcoming season there.
So I want to dive into this alittle bit today here.
So, what's the infield?
This was number one question.
I got there.
What's the middle infield goingto look like in our eyes?
What are we?
What do we think the middleinfield is going to look like
for the brewers there?
So do we believe I?

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I guess this would be the firstone, because I guess it's a
double up question, because wehad another question about that
one.
Do we believe the brewers aregoing to go out and grab a third
bas?
That would be my biggestquestion, because that's going
to answer all of our questions.
We don't know right now, becauseright now you look at the
roster it's like okay, you haveMonasterio, you cannot rely on
Dunn, you can't rely on OliverDunn to be your third baseman.

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Again, those two are probably.
Monasterio is a nice guy, he'sa utility guy, though he's not
an everyday third baseman.
Joy ortiz could be an everydaythird baseman.
I did see that shortstop cooperpratt is going to be at spring
training.
He's young yet I I don't evenknow.
I was just going to look thatup quick.
How old is cooper pratt there?
Aaron, do you know off top ofyour head?

Speaker 3 (13:38):
um, I do not, let me see let's see here they drafted
um 20, 20, okay, he's 20.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
He's 20 there.
Last season spent some timewith biloxi he was, so he's up
in the double a system already.
Last season there and you'relooking at this year he's
invited to spring trainingnon-roster invite.
I don't think he's going to getan opening day roster spot but
it is exciting to see himalready up there.
It is really exciting to seehim up there.

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So cooper pratt's probably notstarting out at the big league
level.
They do have a couple otherprospects down there, like uh
brock wilkin, uh bovie I.
I don't think either one ofthem is going to start at the
big league level.
They're all too young yet.
They need developing.
So you're practically down tothe.
You know your middle infield, myassumption where I would go.

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Bryce Durang, second base, likethat's where I'm rolling right
now.
Bryce Durang, second base Idon't think okay, you move him
over to short, but then you openup a hole at second base
Because there ain't nobodybetter at second base
defensively in the game, in myopinion, than Bryce Durant.
That dude is all over the place.
The second base he's a.
He's a gold Glover for a reasonLike that is Bryce Durant is

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the best second basemandefensively.
So I'm not moving them offthere.
Because if I mean, if you pitchit right, if you look at it
right, you can get ground ballsgoing over.
That way, bryce Durant is goingto fulfill that spot.
So I look over at shortstop,then that means joey ortiz
slides over, so now he's yourshortstop.
They did out who is that guy?
They just signed up there,aaron.
I forget his name, slips mymind.
They just traded for him, gothim from the yankees in that

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deal with, uh, nesser cortez, Ibelieve.
Let's see here who is.
He's a utility.
He's like a.
I think he's a third base,second baseman, caleb durbin.
Caleb durbin durbin was hisname, the one thing when I
remember writing up on durbinwhen we're talking about it when
they got him, he's got uh, notas strong of an arm.
His, his arm is not as strong,so you put him over at third

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base.
The only thing that worries methen is, defensively, the arm
coming across the diamond.
That's the thing that worriesme.
The bat you're gonna people aregonna hate him because they
hate sal sometimes for this, butdurbin's bat, he's not a hard
contact guy.
He, he puts the ball in, play abolt load.
He's exactly like sal frelick.
Exactly like sal frelick.
Frelick puts the ball in play,it's just if it's gonna be a a

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little like dribbler or if it'sgonna be a piss missile.
And he, they do.
Both.
Those guys are not piss missilehitters Like, they are little
dribblers.
That's where they roll it.
So I don't know.
You know they talked about evena guy like Sal Frelick going
over to third base.
We talked about it last spring.
They, he saw a time over there.
I don't want to lose Sal in theoutfield though, though.

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So who do we got left for freeagents for third baseman?
What do we got left out there?
I know alex bregman's out there, but unless if mark ananasio is
listening and he just listenedto me yell about spending money
I got a good feeling we'reprobably not gonna see a guy
like, uh, alex bregman coming totown there.
I I don't know if I would want.
I think bregman I like bregman,don't get me, but I don't know
if he's past.
What Bregman was?
Bregman used to be that bigpower threat, that big bopper in

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that lineup, and I think he'skind of I don't want to say went
downhill, but I don't likeBregman as much as I did with
him.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
It's what you're going to pay for him.
I still like what he can bringto the table.
He's still probably the bestfree agent as far as like, just
upside, like what he couldpotentially do for you.
It's just he's going to come atlike by far the highest price
tag, I think just because of Iknow, you know, if you're a good
GM, you pay for, you knowforward, you know progression,

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like what's he going to do inthe next, next, if they sign him
to a three or four year, buthe's going to command the money
just because of what he'salready done.
That's, that's the problem withhim.
Like he's in that middle ground.
You don't know what you're.
You know, when the Yankees gotJosh Donaldson, it was like what
are you getting?
And then they, you know theysaw he was a he's a buck 80 Josh
Donaldson, not the MVP JoshDonaldson.
So not saying Bregman would bethat.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
But I know you had mentioned Mark Moncada before
you on Mocada outside of that,though, I don't hate Moncada, I
don't hate that deal.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
There's a lot.
I don't know, though, that thatlist is is kind of stale.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
You know what I mean.
That is like bare bones listright there of third base
options.
It's not pretty.
It's not because patrick wisdomhe's gone.
We went through that.
He went over to japan so he'salready signed up over there.
Nikki lopez uh, I don't likethat one.
Moncada.
What is his market value, Iwonder?
I wonder if sport track let mesee his market value, where they

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have him kind of listed outright now.
One point is calculated marketvalue right now is 1.5.
1.5 mil, that's cheap.
That's cheap, that's a cheapdeal right there.
And Maikada, I mean you look athim last season the numbers are
kind of eh, for him he batted275, but that was only a 40

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at-bats, so he didn't reallyplay last season there.
Look at him over the years.
The home runs are average.
2019, he had 25, but after thathe was kind of average across
the board.
The batting average was hehovers.
Last season, 275, like I said,but that was limited.
2023, he batted 260 in 92 games.

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11 bombs You're not getting alot of bombs out of Mankata, but
like the switch hitter, I like,I like his ability to switch it
29 years.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
He's not ancient at 29 years old no, no, and it's a
cheap contract.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
the upside if he stays healthy, the upside's
there with him.
I don't hate that move, I don'thate the mood for mancada.
But outside, I mean, what elsedo you have to pick through
there?
You have Nicky Lopez, you haveJace Peterson.
You already experienced that.
And do you want to get BrianAnderson back?
We already had Brian Anderson.
People were pissed off when wegot him the first time.
I mean, why would you want himback a second time there?
And then I mean you couldpossibly?

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I mean, do we have someshortstops that could maybe?
Let's see, you got EurekaHernandez, garrett Hampson's out
there, paul DeYoung, but he'solder and he's old.
I would take Jose Iglesias fromthe Mets.
He was batting like 300 lastseason.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Can he play?
Third, though I don't know ifI've ever seen him Like, he's
like one of those like locked inshortst's actually listed as a
short.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
He's listed as a third baseman.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
That's great I mean maybe he played third.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
He had to have because, uh, what's his name?
Uh, francisco lador, was thatshortstop?
So, jose oh yeah either heplayed second base or he's
second maybe.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, I feel well, no because mcneil played over
there yeah, he had, so it had tohave been.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
He had to have been third base he's.
I mean his market value rightnow is at 1.7.
I don't think he's going to bearound that, but he's listed at
1.7 not horrible I don't hatethat.
I mean you could dip into theshortstop pool and try to move
guys around.
Brandon cofferd's retired so hedoesn't count anymore what?

Speaker 3 (20:41):
What happened to Luis Urias?
I know Ramon Urias on theOrioles, but Luis Urias, the
brother of Ramon, he was on theBrewers back a couple years ago
but man, he fell.
I mean that guy, he can'tscratch more than four home runs
now.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
He was never.
He's what I'm praying that JoeyOrtiz doesn't turn into.
He was never.
He never got over that hump.
He never got over that humpwith the Brewers he would.
He had some success and then itwas just like he just never got
over that hump.
I don't know what it was, buthe just never was there.
So I don't know.
I mean I didn't hate him, Iliked Urias, but he had a weird,

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weird batting stance and itjust it never took off.
Never took off for him there.
Um, yeah, outside of that, Imean, the third base pool is
pretty bare.
So if you're looking for any,any help, I mean you're
basically going to look at adifferent position and try to
fit them in somewhere like, uh,I mean, if you want to spend
money, hung sung kim, uh,brandon drewry's out there.
He's a little bit older, buthe's out there right now.

(21:42):
I mean, you're kind of, if'rethe Brewers, you're looking for
a rental.
I'll be honest with you as muchas I hate rentals because I
really do I hate rentals with apassion.
But we're talking about CooperPratt.
We're talking about CooperPratt with that potential to be
up at the bigs at some pointhere.
Brock Wilkin, we're talking now, who are going to be able to
fill into that spot.
So in I mean, I'm looking atguys and I know age.

(22:08):
We don't want to get too tooold or too old up there, but you
could get a guy like let's justsay, I don't know who we just
talking about there, for.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
I'll say one name there.
I mean shoulda coulda woulda.
I wish they would have went andgot Gio Urshela, though I
shoulda coulda woulda.
I wish they would've went andgot Gio Urshela, though.
I mean he's solid, I've alwaysbeen like that.
Where did he end up?
Oakland, on a one-year deal for$6 million?
I mean, the guy hit $250 lastyear in a league that you know I
know I wanted him, I would've.
I mean, what's his careeraverage here?
We got $273 career average innine years, that's not bad at

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all.
Shoulda coulda woulda.
I don't want to insult theinjury, but he's one of those
guys that completely gets lostin the shuffle of just no one
knows about that guy, he justdisappears, I think you have to
do something, you have to.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
If you're the Brewers I don't think you can live with
.
I think you can put Joey Ortizin shortstop, don't get me wrong
.
And I think Bryce Durant canstay those shortstop, don't get
me wrong, and I think bryceduran can stay, like those two
will be fine.
But I don't think you can liveif you have a third baseman of
andrew monasterio, oliver dunn,like random dudes just trying to
fill spots over there at thirdbase.
I don't.
I don't think durbin's gonna bethat guy.

(23:15):
He's a utility guy, he's afill-in guy, not an everyday guy
.
You need to get an everyday guywho's gonna give you a little
bit of thump.
I don't know if the Brewers aregoing to be able to rely on
thump.
I think it's going to be a lotof speed.
We're going to use speed andcontact to beat you.
Thump is going to come at times, but it's going to be a lot of
speed and contact to beat youout there.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
I mean this is like being advantageous, obviously.
Like you bring up Ha Sung Kim,like if you slide Joey Ortiz to
third, which when he came upwith the Orioles he was playing
third and short, like I know hecan play third, that's not, he's
a defensive like pretty darngood defensive player at either
position.
So if you could, if you justmove Ortiz to third to fill that

(23:56):
third base, because you knowthe free I don't love that free
agent pull.
And even if you brought inIglesias to play, I like
Iglesias.
I've just seen him at short.
A lot more I don't know.
I mean if he can play third,whatever.
But you know you bring in likeIglesias, you bring in even Paul
DeJong.
I mean he's older but he's not,he's solid.
You know what I mean.

(24:17):
Like it's a consistent.
You know what you're going toget.
Probably it's not like a guythat like Urias we brought up I
mean the guy's now hitting oneninth it's like don't even
bother, right.
But I mean there's some guys.
I'd almost move Ortiz to thirdif you can bring in the right
shortstop there.

(24:37):
I don't know if you can.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Obviously.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Adamas just getting out of there is what's causing
this.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
It's a big void, right?
Because our next question thatwe got is going to be who's
going to replace oh, and I gotone.
We got one texted now Sal.
We got one question.
We got one about Sal movinginto third base.
I don't hate Sal at third base,I just hate Sal leaving the
outfield.
I just hate the thought ofwasting Sal's because that dude

(25:06):
is a.
I mean, I think that he couldbe a gold glove winner just
about every year If you put themout there like watching.
He is a master out there inright field and I just my worry
is you move Sal to third baseand you lose that right fielder.
That's, that's my big worry.
I know you got JacksonCheerurio.
I know you got PerkinsHopefully Mitchell stays healthy
and you got Mitchell out there.
You got Yelich.

(25:27):
But how do you replace Sal inthe outfield?
That dude, I mean, he ran intoa freaking great in the wall and
broke his hip and then stillplayed in the playoff series
against the Mets.
He is just a different kind ofball player.
He's a hard-nosed dude.
I can't remember what PatMurphy said about him.
He always would joke with himthat he would be out of the
league so fast that he'd ask himevery day if he was studying

(25:48):
still so he can get a differentdegree, so he can move on.
And he just he don't.
Pat always toys with him likethat and basically tells him
like he stinks and everythinglike that.
But he knows like he loves Sal.
Sal is just great in theoutfield.
So I don't disagree, like Salcould play third base.
I just hate losing Sal in theoutfield like that.
That would be my one worry.
But.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
But it does fix.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
It does fix your problem it does.
I mean you, you like Salalready.
If he has the range, if he hasthe ability to play third base,
you move Ortiz over to short.
You keep Sal in the lineup, youkeep Matt third base, you put
Mitchell out in center field,you put Jackson Churio in left
and you put, or you put, garrettMitchell in right field.
You put jack centurio and leftand you put, or you put garrett
mitchell in right field.
You put blake perkins in centerand you throw um jack centurio

(26:29):
and left and then you havechristian yelich be your dh and
then hoskins at first, terangortiz and um salad third base.
Or of course contraria iscatching and I mean it fixes
your problem in house.
Like it fixes your problem 100.
I.
Just my one thing, okay, islike you have one group of
brewer fans and you have anothergroup brewer fans.
One group says you have to geta power hitting third baseman.

(26:50):
The other one says let's movesal over there.
So it's like what?
Which one do you want?
You want the power.
Like I don't think the brewersare going to be built off of
power this year.
I I really don't.
I think the brewer is wherethey're at right now.
Hoskinskins is gonna hit youlike 25 to 30.
I really think he's gonna be 25to 30.
Yelich, if his back's healthy25 25 in that 25 range.
Contreras around 25.

(27:12):
Sal, I think.
Garrett Mitchell, if he stayshealthy he could be 20 to 25.
I really do like that dude'sgot some pop in that bat.
He could be 20 25.
But Terang Ortiz, sal BlakePerkins, jackson Churio, that
dude could probably hit 25.
I'll go 25 with him too.
25 to 30.
So you're going to have somehope.
You don't have that PrinceFielder, you don't have him.

(27:35):
You have Reese Hoskins but youdon't have that guaranteed power
threat like we had with GarySanchez last year where he's a
power hitter.
You don't have that powerhitter but you have dudes who
can hit home runs.
But I think where the Brewers'offense is going to come from is
that ability to fly around thebases and put the ball in play,
like we just mentioned therewith Durbin and Sal Frelick.

(27:58):
I believe Durbin would haveactually been near the bottom in
the league in hard contact lastyear if he would have qualified
.
So, like he doesn't put theball in play hard, but he puts
the ball in play, I think hisswing rate or when contact in
the zone, when the ball was inthe zone, how often he made
contact with a swing was like 90plus 90%.

(28:19):
So I mean the dude, when heswings the bat, when it's in the
zone, the zone he swings, he'sputting that baby in play, like
that's just how it is.
But like it's the question of,is he going to give you that
hard contact?
So I mean, you're not playingon a fence then of some brewer
fans worry, hey, we're not goingto have a lot of power, but I
don't think we're going to.
Anyways, I don't think we are.
I think if you sign up, a guylike joan micata or you know how

(28:41):
we were talking about jIglesias there Like Jose
Iglesias isn't going to hit youbombs but he's going to get on
base, like he's going to get onbase for you.
Last year he batted 300 withthe Mets there, like he was an
on-base machine.
I think that's where theBrewers are going to thrive is
traffic on the base pathsputting pressure on pitchers.
That's where they were lastyear.
That's where they're going tobe this year.

(29:10):
Willie Adamas had a boatload ofRBIs.
He was over 100.
He had a bunch of home runs.
I will like he's.
He was your dude, now it'sgoing to be who steps up to be
that dude?
Right, and I think ChristianYelich, in a healthy season he
could be that guy.
He could be that guy again foryou.
He can be that clutch hitter.
Reese Hoskins is going to getyou some RBIs.
William Contreras gonna be bycommittee.
I really do.
I think it's gonna be bycommittee that they replace

(29:30):
Willie's bat.
I don't know if you justreplace a hundred and some RBIs,
unless if you go out and getone soda, like, unless you go
out and get one soda, it's hardto replace a hundred, some RBIs.
But I think you can do it withwhat you got, what you got in
house, because you think theyoung guys not well, younger
guys, right, sal Terang, ortiz,mitchell, turrio, perkins those
guys are going to be able to ripsome RBIs for you.

(29:51):
Now are they going to be like100?
No, but they're going to add up.
They'll rack up there.
And then Yelich, contreras,hoskins, hoskins has got to have
a bounce back year.
If Hoskins has a bounce backyear for the Brewers.
I like where they're sitting.
I really do.
I like where they're sittingwith that one there.
So, aaron, we'll hit it.
Oh, we got four minutes.
We got four minutes before wegot to hit our next fact.

(30:11):
We got four minutes before wegot to hit our next fact there,
so we're going to keep it.
We're going to keep it here fora second there.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Can I ask you real quick, what were the brewers?
I didn't get to see it.
I should say what were theypaying?
Adamas, like 20?
Wasn't it like around 20 mil,18 mil, something like that?
I'd have to double check back.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I don't remember.
I don't remember what Willie'scontract was.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
I should have looked it up first, because I have a
point about Bregman then.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
It wasn't.
I don't know if it was 20, I'mnot 100 sure, but I don't think
it was 20.
Um, let me see when williamdavis's contract with the
brewers ended, when he signed.
Okay, that doesn't help me outseven year oh no, that's not it.
Can we look back on this list?
Here I'm back.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh, he'smaking 12.

(31:04):
He had a one-year contract withthe Brewers because he was in
arbitration and he was making 12.
Well, 12.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
12 and a quarter he's making 12 and a quarter with
the Brewers.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Year before that he was making 8.7.
Year before that 4.6.
So he really wasn't making much.
2021, he was making $590,000with the Tampa Bay.
Ranks before he came to theBrewers.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, well, I was going to say real quick, just
because I'm thinking like if theBrewers are spending $18,000.
Because I just tapped into whatAlex Bregman is trying to get
between $25,000 and $30,000.
I was thinking if Adonis waslike $18,000 to $20,000, you
spend a little bit more Justbecause we talk about the
Packers.
You know, receiver by committee, you didn't like that.
If you're applying that samething here, like you know RBIs

(31:53):
by committee or you know runproduction by committee, you
know it's hard to do that as a.
I'm not saying they can't do it, I'm just saying if you brought
in Bregman it would make thingsa lot easier.
But yeah, I guess they'reprobably going to be too far
apart.
I keep seeing there's a coupleteams that are real close to the
talks with him and I haven'tseen the Brewers get brought up.
I was just thinking that wouldfit.
Like okay, you lose Adonis, youplug in.

(32:15):
You know what I mean.
Like production for productionright there, if he pans out the
way he has been playing therefor.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Bregman, the way he has been playing there for, uh,
the way that the brewers operateis hope for production.
That's the way that we operateis hope for production, but they
do.
I I know they have money tospend now because they got that
fan duel contract.
They're gonna get the luxurytax money there.
They're gonna have money tospend.
It's just a question of willthey spend that money?
Because now they have a littlebit and I really think I don't
think they're gonna spend ametric boatload on anybody, but

(32:44):
I think that they will spendsome money, like on a Yohan
Mankata, like an average thirdbaseman who can just come in and
fill a spot and you hope forthe best, right?
Mankata's got the ability to hita boatload of home runs.
I mentioned it there in acouple of years ago, I think it
was 2019.
He had 25.
So I mean he's got the abilityto hit you a bunch of home runs

(33:05):
there.
Let's see, I had it up there asecond ago.
Yeah, 2019, 25 home runs.
So we know the guy can hitbombs, like he can get hot, he
can get going.
It's just a matter of what hedoes and hitting in a friendly
ballpark like Miller Park Ialmost said Miller Park there,
right American Family Field,like the Brewers have, it's a
friendly ballpark, right Goingto some friendly places around

(33:26):
the NL Central and such.
He could be a guy where youcould see him go for that.
I mean 20 mark there.
So maybe a guy like YohanMaikata.
I don't hate that move, I don'thate the Sal.
I don't hate the Sal.
I'm just saying like, bring itin a bat, bring it in a guy, a
switch hitter.
Oh, there we go.

(33:50):
We got one across text in linetelling us how much willie made.
Thank you, thank you out therefor telling us.
Uh, yeah, sometimes we'redelayed on here so people like
hear us talk and then they youknow sometimes it's delayed
going across there, but thankyou for sending us that contract
there.
But yeah, 12.25, there was thecontract for willie.
We want to get to another facthere, because bob euchre was

(34:11):
born january 26th of 1934.
And if you actually look at hisbaseball cards, they got it
wrong on the back there.
He said he was born in 1935.
I just saw that before.
I was looking that up andapparently they got it wrong on
the back of his baseball cardsall the way up until 2014 when
they finally corrected it there.
So that's kind of funny there.
But so, bob U euchre, uh, wegot a little uh little time here

(34:34):
for another one here, aaron, sowhat do you got for me?

Speaker 3 (34:37):
um, so you know, you mentioned it already like for
the state of wisconsin.
He's so big, so, um, I mean he,he, uh, he graduated from
milwaukee tech high school, uh,and was an exceptional high
school athlete there, um, and hegrew up watching the brewers
play at old Borchert Field.
I want to say that's maybethat's the right way to say it,
I don't know but you know,growing up like he's one of you

(35:00):
guys, you know what I mean.
Like that, just that kind ofrings true, you know, and hits
you in the heartstrings a littlebit more.
It's not like this guy was likea transplant from LA or
something you know like la orsomething you know like nothing
against that, but like he's likeI mean, he's homegrown, right,
he's homegrown growing upwatching the brewers.
Obviously didn't play for him,but like it, you can't control

(35:20):
that.
But then to to return back tothe brewers as a broadcaster,
like that's just, that's cool.
I mean you hear stories aboutlike derrick jeter right, I, I
always want to be the yankeeshortstop turns into the yankee
shortstop.
Like that's just when thathappens, and it's one of your
own, that's, that's just awesome.
You know, like that's, he's oneof he's one of your own, that's
.
That's all you can really sayhe is.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Every time I hear one of these, it's like this guy, I
believe he, uh, I I saw oneearlier today.
Um, when he was in the military.
They asked him uh, you know, itwas any of them, ball players,
right?
And they asked him if he wasball.
The military they asked him youknow, was that even ballplayers
, right?
And they asked him if he was aballplayer.
And he said yeah, and he toldthem that he played for
Marquette, marquette University.
Marquette University doesn'thave a baseball team, but that's
what he told the guys that hewent to Marquette because he

(36:05):
didn't play college ball.
So he's like yeah, I went toMarquette, so that was pretty
awesome there.
When he said that, but yeah,bob Uecker, just a stand-up guy,
stand-up guy all the time.
He was awesome.
So let's get back to the Brewers.
Let's get back to the Brewershere for a minute.
My guess is we got another oneabout closers for the Brewers

(36:28):
who's going to close down games?
Because we know Devin Williamsis with the Yankees now.
So who's going to close downgames?
And the question was will it beMcGill or who's it going to be
right?
And I think it's going to be.
I think it's going to be McGill?
I do.
I wouldn't be surprised, though,if they tried like a closer by
committee kind of thing, whereMcGill was your main guy but you

(36:49):
did see a guy like maybe likeAbner Uribe, come in there and
close down some games.
Or, if you wanted a lefty,brian Hudson, come in there and
try to close down some games foryou Like feeling the game right
.
Pat Murphy's a big.
He's not an analytical guy,he's a I'm feeling the game kind
of guy.
He's an old baseball player.
He's an old guy, right, hefeels the game differently.
He feels it.
He goes for the feel of thegame.

(37:10):
So it wouldn't surprise me tosee a guy like pat go with more
of a closer by committee.
Until he figures it out, Ithink trevor mcgill is going to
be the guy, but I could see himbeing a closer by committee kind
of guy.
What do you think, aaron?
I mean, do they go with trevormcgill or do you think it's more
of a closer by committee?
How do you think they roll it?

Speaker 3 (37:27):
I feel like it's mcgill.
Um, like you said, they mightsprinkle in Uribe.
I mean I've seen other teams,like you know, let's say, five
nights out of seven they'll useMcGill and then maybe Uribe two
nights of the week.
I mean I'm looking here,brewers finished the season just
behind the Guardians as thesecond-best bullpen in baseball.
So I mean, you know, and thefact that Devin Williams was out

(37:51):
, you know bits and pieces ofthat season last year.
I mean, yeah, it's easy, he'sgreat when he's on, but like not
to not that insult injury, butthat that playoff, like giving
up that home run, is like I meanhe was never there in the
playoffs, and when he was therein the playoffs he blew games.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
So it's like, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
You know, I'm not saying you don't miss him, but
like you know when, when thelights were on for him to kind
of get rock, like that, you seewhat you can do, you know, you
see what you can do without himand I think, you know, I think
they'll hold their own.
I'm you know it's hard toreplace one single guy like that
sometimes, but who knows, Imean mcgill might, might have a
standout season and like Iexpect, I expect the Brewers to,
you know, basically treadwaters very well even without

(38:37):
them, like I, just the waythey're run, they're like the
Rays.
To me they're the NL Rays, likethey always have a bullpen,
it's just guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
They find pitchers and I know Jacob Mizorowski and
Craig Yoho.
Those are two other guys whogot invites to spring training
there.
Jacob Mizorowski is theflamethrower.
He's got invited there, so hecould be a.
I could see him being a bullpenfirst guy, like the way Corbin
Burns came into the Brewersrotation was went to the bullpen
first, worked his way in.
Jacob Mizorowski is startingpitcher, but I could see him

(39:06):
coming to the bullpen first andthen working his way into the
starting rotation, maybe nextyear, like I could see that
being his route there.
So kind of like a 2018 corbinburns kind of route.
I wouldn't hate that.
So we see him.
Greg yoho is out there too, soyou got some experience there.
Uh, we do have one across thetext in line.
I think your rebate needs moreexperience.
Wouldn't put him in a closegame.
I, yeah, I would agree.
I, your rebate's got stuff.

(39:26):
It's just a matter of if he cankeep his fists to himself and,
you know, not try to pick fightswith everybody.
That would be a big start.
That'd be a starter there.
He closes games down, but hecloses them down in the wrong
way, that's for sure.
So I mean, yeah, uribedefinitely needs some time out
there.
But I don't hate the thought ofUribe potentially getting shots
at closing down games.
But yeah, it's going to begetting him into games again,

(39:48):
right?
I don't know if he ever didservice suspension.
I know he was suspended.
He got hurt.
I don't know if he ever servedhis suspension because then he
was down in the minors and I'mpretty sure he got hurt down
there.
So I don't know if when hecomes back, he has to serve his
suspension at the, because youhave to serve it at the big
league level, so you have to beup there to serve it.

(40:09):
I don't know if he ever servedhis suspension because I don't
think they ever brought him back.
So it's going to be kind of await, and I think wait and see
with your rebate, because Ithink he's going to be suspended
first before he can actuallyget out there in game action.
So, um, yeah, the bullpen I it'sgoing to be.
I think the bullpen will begood, I do.
Uh, brian hudson coming back,you're gonna have trevor mcgill,
jared caning, out there.
He was fantastic.

(40:29):
I mean you talk about before,like the Brewers figuring out
guys, like making them work, andthat's what we saw with Brian
Hudson and Jared Koenig, thosetwo who knew where they were
before they came to the Brewers.
And when they came to theBrewers they were two of the
best bullpen pitchers in thegame.
So it's like, what did they doto fix those guys?
I don't know, but it wasimpressive.
So you got those two guys,you're going to have Trevor

(40:51):
McGill, you're going to haveUribe Pajams Paguero, you're
going to have all those guysback.
And then I know we have one guywho texts in a lot on the show
here.
He hates DL Hall.
We had him talking about himlast time we were on here, but
you got DL Hall, you're going tohave Aaron Ashby.
I mean it depends how thestarting rotation you got
brought nester cortez.

(41:11):
Now you have freddie peralta.
If brandon woodruff, when he'sready to go, you're gonna have
him.
You're gonna have tobias myers,you're gonna have, I mean,
you're gonna have a plethora ofpitchers.
You are, you're gonna have alot of pitchers to be able to
work through there.
Uh, when, oh, his name slipsahead.
Or robert gasser, when he comesback from injury.
It won't be for the first, liketwo months of the year, I think
he's going to be out yet butwhen he comes back you're going

(41:33):
to have his potential.
I know Wade Miley said he wantsto come back to the Brewers.
I don't know if the Brewers aregoing to bring him back, but I
know he wants to come back.
So you have Wade Miley's namefloating around there.
You have a lot of pitchers.
You have a lot of pitchers tobe able to work through there
and see who you want to put in.
Those guys, the guys who don'tmake the rotation, like an Aaron

(41:53):
Savali or other guys they'regoing to fill into the bullpen.
So who fills into that bullpenrole is going to be a good
question there.
I can't.
I I'm excited.
I'm excited to see thispitching staff, I'm excited to
see the young guys because PaulSkeens had a fantastic year last
year.
Like I don't want to take awayfrom what Paul Skeens did by any
means, but like Tobias Myers,if you actually look at his
stats, he wasn't theflamethrower, he wasn't this hot

(42:14):
commodity like Paul Skeens was.
But if you look at his statsfrom August on, tobias Myers was
just as good, if not better,than Paul Skeens down that
stretch.
So like I am excited to seeTobias Myers in a full season
where he's feeling good.
Like talk about perseverance ofa pitcher.
Tobias Myers goes from he was in, was in, he's gonna, he's in

(42:34):
the bullpen or no, he's instarting rotation, went to the
bullpen, got canned, went down,came back up to the brewers,
went back to the startingrotation and just figured it out
.
Like it was just they weremoving him around trying to find
spots he would work and thenthey brought him back up and he
just filled in, was dynamic.
So I mean it was just awesomethere, eric, can you look up?
We got a question there aboutBrandon Woodruff.
Is he medically cleared?
I don't know if he's completelymedically cleared.

(42:57):
Yet I thought that when I lastheard Matt Arnold talk about it,
they said he was on pace.
They said he was on a good pace.
I don't know if he's going tobe medically cleared for the
start of the season, but I knowhe's going to be back next year
I don't know when.
I don't know when he's going tobe able to get back to it.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
I thought he was throwing flat ground, though uh,
he is not medically currentlynot medically clear is what I'm
saying is he throwing yet?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
does it say that he's throwing yet or no?

Speaker 3 (43:22):
uh, let me see this from january 7th.
Let me see so we're cool I meanthat's, that's fairly recent
there with a brand right um, hesaid I'm I going to be pretty
candid with you.
I know we talked a little bitduring the season, but I'm in a
different place.
Oh, this is talking about howhe feels with Milwaukee there.

(43:44):
I honestly can't answer thatquestion.
In relation to pitching rightnow I'm preparing to go pitch
whether?
Oh, so I guess he's wait.
Let me see.
I'm preparing to go pitchwhether?
Oh, so I guess he's wait.
Let me see.
I'm preparing to go pitch.
Whether that's in New York, thesite of Milwaukee's opening,
okay, so he doesn't know yet.
So I guess he's throwing alittle bit.
But he let me see, oh wait,here we go.

(44:06):
His shoulder declined tocooperate.
I just wasn't ready.
I couldn't do it.
Now I look back on that.
Gosh, that wasn't three monthsago Now look where I am and I've
made so much progress.
He's trending in the rightdirection.
Long story short it's a littlekind of weird there.
But he doesn't know if he'll beready by opening.
It sounds like definitely notspring training but, maybe

(44:28):
opening day is the advantageous,Maybe miss a month of the
season, like the advantageous,you know.
Maybe maybe miss a month of theseason, you know what I mean.
Like that's just kind of aguess as how he's talking about
it but I was opening for openingweekend.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, I would rush him, I would get him back.
When he gets back, you don'tneed him for opening day, you
don't need them for the firstmonth.
Like, let him get back when,when, if you can have it to a
point where you're in a goodspot, say winning the division
by 10 games, and you're like thefreaking calvary's not here yet

(45:01):
, and then here comes riding inrobert gasser and brandon
woodruff to add to a rotationthat's already pitching well,
like that's, that's as good asmaking a die.
Like sometimes get.
Like, look at the lions rightnow.
Right, I know I'm crossing over, but look at the lions.
Like sometimes a even a what'seven better than a trade at like
the trade deadline or somethingis getting the boys back right,
getting the dudes back in theclubhouse, and that would be
Brandon Woodruff, that'd begetting Robert Gasser back,
whoever it is getting them back,getting them healthy, keeping

(45:21):
them there right.
And that's where I think, ifyou can get him back within the
first couple months and get himsettled in, you're going to be
flying.
You will be flying.
Then you have a startingrotation to persevere up until
then, which I mean brought innestor cortez to kind of fortify
that you get brandon woodruffback.
Then after that I mean, wow,like that is, that's as good as
any trade you're gonna make atthe trade deadline is.

(45:43):
Getting a guy like if brandonwoodruff's on and you get him
back at the trade deadline, youbasically won the trade deadline
.
Like that is 100 the truth.
So I mean I, I'm not, he, he'llbe back.
He'll be back probably in thefirst couple months, is my guess
if he's if he's already sayinglike, hey, I'm maybe probably
not ready for opening day, butthinking around, that time he's
back within the first couplemonths at least.

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And then robert gasser comesback a couple months in.
I like where the brews are atstarting, rotation wise.
So it should be pretty nice tosee, uh, those two back.
Um, this is a question that Ihad, that I got and I don't know
.
So the Brewers have JeffersonQuarrel, one of the top
prospects in all of baseball,one of the top prospects in the

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Brewers' farm system.
They're the catcher, jeffersonQuarrel, coming up.
Daryl, you have WilliamContreras up at the big league
level.
What do you do?
What do you do?
What do you do like, do you andthis is my question like do you
, do you try to look at theupside of jefferson cuero and
try to fit him in, or do youextend william contraris for a

(46:48):
long-term deal?
Because if you extend williamcontraris for a long-term deal,
you're basically saying allright, jefferson Cuero, we're
going to trade you.
He's done, he's gone, he's yournumber one prospect.
You're not keeping him around.
If you're going to keep WilliamContreras around, so it's a
question of then who do you moveon from?
Do you go with the youth?

(47:09):
Do you go with the young guyand go with a small contract
where you can control thecontract?
Right, like a Jackson Churriocontract where it's $80 million?
Right, that contract could bethe biggest steal ever if he
continues to produce like he is.
Do you test it out withJefferson Quirrell?
I mean, they've seen a lot,they know a lot.
He was injured last seasonthere but he's coming back,
probably going to see some timeat the big league level.

(47:30):
If you like what you see whenyou get up there and he's
through, he's throwing guys outlike we saw last year in spring
training.
If he's chucking guys out, ifhe's playing good defensively
and you're like this guy can hitwell for me, do you move on and
save yourself a buck off ofwilliam contraris.
Do you try to trade him?
Like I, I don't know.
Like it seems so crazy right toeven think about that.
Like, do you even think aboutthat?
But at the same time you've gota plethora of catchers.

(47:51):
You've got to move on fromsomebody.
And if it's the young guy or ifit's William Contreras, who do
you move on from?

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Here's the thing I'll look at it from, and on no
means do I want to be insultingtowards the Brewers.
They're a small market.
They're going to try andmaximize.
They're going to try and useWilliam Contreras until because
we already talked about how theywere what like $900,000 short,
or like 1.1 million short onwhat like?
He wanted this like 6.5 andthey wanted to do like 5.6.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Right, it was something like that yeah, they
want to do 5.6 and I think hewants 6.4 or something stupid.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
That's, yeah, like it's within a million dollars,
like and and they're like notbudging.
So that tells me that they'regonna they going to ruffle his
feathers per se.
You know what I mean.
Like they're going to say, youknow what, we got this kid
coming behind you.
Cause you know, I think theOrioles are doing the same thing
with Adley Rutschman right now.
They have a kid coming rightthrough the minor leagues.
He's like third in theirprospect pool, but he's like, eh

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, we're not going to extend you,we're not going to give you
like $3, $4 million deal.
We're going to see like, hey,can we navigate our way through
until, maybe, the trade deadline.
Honestly, like, if Contrerasgets dealt at the deadline, I
wouldn't be surprised.
You know what I mean.
Like I don't love that if I'mtaking ownership of the brewers,
I'm I'm locking contreras upbecause he's a known commodity,

(49:15):
he's an, he's an all-star, he'sone of the best catchers.
Baseball, you know, like that'ssomething you don't mess around
with because prospects are cool.
But what if he doesn't produceright, like there's no guarantee
.
You have pretty much a provencommodity in contreras at the
major league level.
I just think the brewers aresmall market and they operate as

(49:36):
so.
So they're going to.
You know, try and trade him whenhis his trade values.
I mean, if they traded him thisoff season, you know that would
have been like coming off theyear.
I'm not saying he can't havethat year again, it's just he
had a great year.
So it's like I think the waythey're going to go is get rid
of Contreras, go with theyounger guy.
But if I'm the Brewers, I signthe younger guy.

(49:57):
I maybe trade the prospectbecause we don't know what he's
going to be, and then go getyourself maybe a third baseman,
a short, whatever the team needsat the time.
But you have a.
What I'm trying to get, youhave a proven guy can produce at
the major league level,all-star level.
You can produce at the majorleague level, all-star level.
You just I'm not saying, notsaying the guy coming through
the minors isn't going to begood, but it's, it's big shoes.

(50:19):
You want to risk it?
It's a risk, it's definitely arisk?

Speaker 2 (50:21):
yeah, do you want to risk it?
That's the question.
And how do you?
How do you?
How do you like figure it outthough, like you, you can't if
you right now.
How do you give jefferson cuerotime at the big league level to
be able to figure out?
Maybe he's better, right, maybeif you brought Jefferson Cuero
up somehow, some way.
I wanted to look at what is.
Can you bring up JeffersonCuero's batting stats?

(50:42):
I want to see what he hit downin the minors.
How do you figure out how goodJefferson Cuero is, with him
being blocked by WilliamContreras from getting playing
time?
Honestly, you can't see him atthe big league level.
You can only see him at theminors.
And I remember I was talkingwith Gary Varshow, dalton
Varshow's dad.
I was talking with him on aninterview here on the show and

(51:04):
he told me, like, if you're agood pitcher, you're already out
of the minors, so you don'tknow how good hitters are until
you see them in the bigs,because you can get away with a
lot of crap when you're in theminor league system versus when
you get to the big league level.
And I took that true when I saw, like Joey Weimer, he was
fantastic.
The minors got up, the bigscouldn't hit Keston here at down

(51:24):
to the minors.
He was like the Barry bonds inthe minors.
But he got up to the big and hitand it's like, okay, where does
the difference there?
So it's like, how do you knowwhat jefferson cuero is?
Besides, when you watch himyou're like yeah, he's got a
good.
I mean, his swing looks smoothand he can throw guys out and
he's got this and he's got thatand he looks good.
But when he gets to the bigs,is he that guy?
It's like how do you know thatif you have this road block in

(51:46):
front of him?
So I mean, what was he?
What was he batting down therein the minors?
So 2022.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
So 2022, a and high A I guess this is what this means
.
But at A he's hitting 278 withsix home runs, 43 RBIs in 75
games.
Then in high A he's hitting 20games small sample size but 313
with four home runs and 14 RBIs.

(52:13):
So the power was like almostidentical in like 50 less games.
Um, at a higher level.
So I mean trending the rightway.
Um, I never love like comingoff an injury for a pretty much
a whole season there.
Um, like I think he he'sprobably gonna need more time.
But um, like, he played in onegame at triple a.
Um, yeah, didn't record a.

(52:33):
I mean even getting that back,so I don't know if he was a
pinch runner.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
No, he was uh god, did he come in?
He think he walked, orsomething yeah, he did.
Yeah, a thousand on base, yeahhe hurt himself running the
bases down there so you nevergot to see him.
It's just and I got one acrosstexan line.
You can't necessarily comparethose stats, minors first,
majors, we agree.
Like you can't necessarilycompare those stats, minors
versus majors, we agree, likeyou can't.
So how do you know what youhave?
And Jefferson Cuero could bethe next, like next dog of

(53:00):
catchers in the big leagues, butyou'll never know.
How will you know?
Like you won't know until yousee him get consistent time at
the big league level?
And how do you do that if yousay like hey, contreras, you
want to play first base for us,like I was gonna say, move you
over to first base.
But then contreras is such agood catcher now.
It's like, why do you want towaste his talents over there?
First base now, because he'ssuch a good it's.

(53:22):
It's tough.
That is tough unless, if youlike, move contreras to okay the
agent hypothetical world.
You bring cuero up.
You have cuero be the backup toContreras, contreras DHs.
Cuero catches.
We see what he's got.
You see what he's got over anextended period.
Maybe you give go 50-50 withYelich and Contreras, right, or
you have Hoskins who works inthere too, but you have those

(53:43):
three.
Those are your majority DH guys, those are your DH guys.
And then you have Cuero fill inthere and he's your catcher on
those off days.
Like that's the only way you'regonna be able to find out.
Because right now, like um,like you were saying there that
stupid arbitration case withcontraris he his projected
salary 7.6, he wants 6.5.
The brewers filed at 5.6.
Why can't you just meet him 0.9?

(54:06):
Why can't you just meet him at6.5 and just call it a day, just
move on.
Like I don't get it sometimeshe deserves like he's a guy,
he's not a guy.
That's like yeah, piss me offand maybe they piss him off
anyways and he wants to leave,like that could be the corbin
burns kind of thing.
We had one texter say, uh, dowe believe it's gonna be like a
burns kind of thing?
Like, yep, there it is, buthe's arbitration this year, 2026

(54:28):
, 2027, he's arbitration andthen he's a free agent in 2028.
I'm gonna be honest with you,if you're not gonna extend them
in the next, you want to get ahaul for a guy.
You give him with a bigger deal, right, you got to have a lot
of years left on the contractnext year, following year, you
got him this year.
I'm bringing jefferson cuero upand like we were just talking
giving him some time there inthat backup catcher's role, but
he's getting time when contrarisis dh, in which I don't know if

(54:50):
they'd be like we say, like 25%of the time, give Contreras
time off, keep his bat in lineup 25% of the time, see what you
got, see what you have inJefferson Quarrel, and then you
can answer all your questionsMost of them hopefully with that
.
So I mean that's kind of wherewe're at there.
Um, we got another one acrosshere.
Do the brewers have a backupcatcher since Sanchez left.
Yes, eric Hayes is still on theBrewers, so they still pace.

(55:13):
I don't hate Hayes.
I think the Brewers have aproblem right now with too many
good catchers.
I think they do.
I think they have a problemwith too many good catchers.
I thought Eric Hayes had somebig moments last year.
He's not an everyday guy buthe's good bat like he's a solid
bat off the bench.
He's solid there.
Uh, contreras, good bat.
I don't know if Contreras wouldbe okay with playing first base
.
If you can get Contreras totransfer over to first base and

(55:35):
you could pay him to be a firstbaseman and have the bat that he
does, I'd dig it.
I'd dig that.
That'd be awesome.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Reese DH.
Yeah, and you only have Reesefor a year, so when Reese is
gone, then Cont can't just moveeverybody to first base.
They tried that with ryan braun.
Did not work out so well, so wegot that there.
Uh, we did.

(56:02):
We missed one.
Aaron, son of a gun, we missedwhen they're talking.
We were gonna hit one at 50.
For the ring of honor for bobeuchre.
There, we were gonna hit one at50.
Uh, let's go with the 50 factor story here.
Aaron, what do you got for me?

Speaker 3 (56:16):
So he showed up in the same wrestling extravaganza
as Andre the Giant, hulk Hogan,gorilla Monsoon and Jesse
Ventura.
So talking about some legendarywrestlers, right, just like
stuff you wouldn't think about.
Like who is Bob Uecker to be atthat, but sure you know why not
he's there.
But like who is Bob Euker to beat that, but sure you know why
not he's there, and it's justlike that's, that's just

(56:36):
hilarious.
You know, like that's gottalove it.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yeah, he's awesome, that dude is awesome.
Like he just fit in with themost random crowds.
And you know, I I heard I can't, I wasn't Bill Michaels who's
talking about it he said thatthey they went to a golf course
in Cleveland and they were, theywere walking up and there was a
group standing outside likesuits and ties and everything,
but they're waiting to see Bob.
And Bob said the most like Idon't know if it what he said,

(57:02):
it was most like like it wasn'tracist, but it was like a
comment that only if, if hewould have said, if somebody
else would have said it, itwould not have gone across.
Well, but he said it and thisgroup of guys just started
busting out laughing and theywere just laughing, laughing and
I mean they they just came upafterwards, shook his hand, you

(57:23):
know, got into pictures withthem and everything like that.
But they just said, I mean,anybody else would have said it
wouldn't have thought it wasfunny.
But since bob said it was funny, he just had that way to make
anybody laugh with the craziestof things too, and he's
quick-witted, always would comeup with the craziest things too.
So he was awesome there.
We did have one across text inline.
Don't put Contreras at firstbase.
It's a waste of talent.
We know it's a waste of talent.

(57:45):
That's what we said.
We know it's a waste of talent.
But what do you do withJefferson Cuero?
He's your number one prospect.
Do you just let him down thereto die?
You stay down there, brother.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
There's no way they move.
I feel like one of those guysgets moved it has to.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Otherwise you make a move, you trade him.
You trade away with somebodyyou have to.
I just don't see how you leaveJefferson Cuero down there and
you don't know what he is Like.
Of Jefferson Cuero down thereand you don't know what he is
Like, I said he could be thebest player that you've had a
catcher ever.
Like you don't know, you haveno idea and like you said, you
don't know.
So you want to go with theproven guy or you want to go
with what could be, I don't knowright.
What if they never gave JacksonChurio that shot?

(58:29):
They were like, oh yeah, we gotPerkins, we got Yellich.
What's the Sleep JacksonCheerio down in the minors?
What if they said that lastyear we wouldn't know right, but
he put it on tape, he put thetalent out there.
Now look at him.
He's a phenom.
Like he could be the bestplayer in baseball.
We don't know yet Last seasonat times he was.
He was the best player in it's.

(59:00):
It's tough.
Like that's the tough decisionthat guy's got to make there.
And, like you said, small marketteam, if jefferson cuero can
come up to the bigs and hit you270, can you imagine the haul
you could get for williamcontraris.
Honestly, can you imagine thehaul you could get?
You could get your thirdbasement of the future.
You could get pitchingprospects galore.
And I know we don't want tothink about that.
I know we don't want to thinkabout that at all because I
don't want to get rid ofContreras.
I love Contreras, I do.
But when you're a small marketteam, you got to think small
market.
And when you're small market,you got to make moves like this.

(59:20):
This is the crappy part aboutbeing a Brewer baseball fan you
get young guys, they get good.
You got to move on from them.
They didn't want to get rid ofWillie Adamasas, they didn't but
they couldn't afford hiscontract, not with doing
everything else.
They couldn't afford him, sothey had to move on.
And now you're at this hole atshortstop.
So it's like you're small market, you got to find ways and this

(59:42):
is the way.
This is a way that you're likeah well, this is what we got to
do.
We got to do this to make ithappen.
So I like and we got one texthere that jefferson cuero needs
time at AAA.
Yes, I agree.
Like I'm not saying that webring this guy up day one, like
we're not bringing him up dayone but we're saying is, at some
point here you got to bring himup and you got to see what he's
about.
You do because you're going tohave the question of, like we

(01:00:04):
just mentioned there, withWilliam Contreras, his contract.
That's only going to get bigger.
Like this year at 6.5 is whatWilliam wants, right, he's
projected at what, what'd I say7.6.
Next year it's going to be aboatload bigger.
We were talking about WilliamThomas's contract before.
Year to year Look 2022 to 2023,he raised it 4 million and then

(01:00:24):
from 2023 to 2024, he went upanother 4 million.
So you imagine WilliamContreras' contract is just
going to keep going up in thenext two years before he becomes
a free agent.
When do you think about makingthat move?
Why do you think about seeingwhat jefferson cuero is about?
I think you have to, soonerrather than later, to know what
you're going to do when thattime comes.
Do you make the extension?
Because if you extend contreraspast what the 2026 season, 2026

(01:00:49):
, 2027 do a past 2027?
He's going to be a free agentin 2028 when he's 30.
If you extend him past that,then it's like what's the point
of Jefferson Quero.
He's just sitting there, he'sjust a road, he's just basically
there.
He's just, I mean, a decoy,like what are you ever going to
use them?
So it's like, well, you got tomake that.
Where we're at right now withthat situation, see what, see

(01:01:12):
what you can see what theBrewers muster up I don't know
Right Small market, you got tomake moves.
So we'll see what they do.
We got one for a BrantleyGilbert down there.
How do you think churro will dohitting stats this season?
Aaron, we will do this againbecause we're going to do the
over under batting stats forthis year.
What did he end up hitting lastseason?

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
275, 21 bombs, 79 RPIs, 22 stolen bags.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Excuse me, give me plus 30 stolen bases, give me 25
home runs.
Okay, here, aaron, I'll do itfor you, I'll do it for you,
we'll do it.
If he's going to increase,let's do it that way.
Will he be plus minus?
What did you tell me?
The plus minus the battingaverage?
What was it?
275, you said 275 last year.
Yeah what are we going?

(01:02:03):
Plus minus the batting averageof 275.
Where do you think he's gonnabe?

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
I like to.
Like you know, I saw bobby wittincrease.
I saw gunner henderson increase, like all these we're talking,
you know younger.
I saw Bobby Witt increase.
I saw Gunnar Henderson increase, Like all these we're talking,
you know younger star players inthe league right, and you put
Jackson Cherry in that category.
Now obviously I think both guysgot.
I mean I know both guys' powernumbers have gotten better.
I always do worry that wholelike there's more tape out on

(01:02:29):
him.
But I think maybe you see thatin year three right, maybe the
third year you're starting tosee like okay, that now they
really know his weakness.
So I I think it gets better.
I think he ends up 280 to 285.
Give me like between thosethresholds there we're taking
the over there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
You got her every time and I I looked up his stats
and I said it last year.
I say you look at jackson andlook at every stop he's made.
Single A started out slow, gothot.
Double A started out slow, gothot.
Triple A started out slow, gothot.
Big leagues definitely startedout slow, got hot, got majorly
hot.
That average went fast.

(01:03:07):
Right, I'm right there with you.
I think he's going to be plus.
I think he's going to be overthat 275 mark that he hit this
last season there for theBrewers.
So I like the over with JacksonChurio there.
Let's go RBIs.
Let's go RBIs Plus or minus 79.
So you had 79 RBIs Plus orminus.
I like the over.
I like the over.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Give me like 85 to 90 RBIs for Jackson Churio, I like
that I'm a little worriedwithout Adamas in that lineup,
just kind of changing things upa little.
You know cause he's like thatguy you can't really like.
If you pitch around him thenChury you know it like plays
into other guys.
But I am a little bit bullishon Chury, so I'll go over to I

(01:03:49):
just.
I think that's that might playinto if he goes under.
I think that's like not thebiggest, like that's one of the
bigger reasons.
Like I just feel like that'sone of those things in baseball
like you take one so one so outof the yankees lineup.
I know it's completelydifferent, but like maybe you
see guys have different numbersright.
Like it's just one of thoselike cause and effect things.

(01:04:10):
But I still, I still, becauseof the talent, the raw talent he
has right now, we'll go overokay, where do we think he bats
in the lineup?

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
because we had one across the texan line.
That said depends where theyplace him in the lineup.
I'm going with the two spot.
I'm going to two spot.
I think I think that's patmurphy loves bryce terang
leading off.
I think he goes with jackcenturio in the two spot.
I think contraris is that's PatMurphy loves Bryce Terang
leading off.
I think he goes with JacksonChurio on the two spot.
I think Contreras is your threeand I think Hoskins is your
four.
It's so weird, cause Yelich isin there too.

(01:04:41):
Maybe they lead off withJackson Churio, maybe Churio
leads off and they move Yelichinto the two and Terang slots in
it like the five.
It's hard to think of Jelichdown there unless if they put
Jelich in three, contreras infour.
I like that better.
Okay, I'm going to take thatback.
Terang in my one spot, jacksonChurrio in my two.

(01:05:02):
Give me Jelich three, contrerasfour.
Give me Hoskins five.
He's still in the power spot.
He's still in the power spot's,still in a power spot.
Contreras is kind of a powerhitter too.
I like the four and five withContreras and Hoskins there.
Plus, knowing the Brewers, theydon't really understand what a
cleanup hitter is, because CraigCouncil used to have like
freaking Sal Frelek used to batcleanup at times like it's like

(01:05:24):
what is this dude doing?

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
yeah, yeah, no, I get it.
I'm looking back.
I mean this is a random daylast year, right, but July 21st
2024 against the Twins.
There they had Terang, leadoff,contreras number two, adamas
three, frelick four, hoskinsfive, joey Ortiz six, garrett
Mitchell seven, churio eight andHasse nine.
But I like your last onebecause what?

(01:05:55):
What terran can steal you somebags, right, yeah?
as far as you know I mean.
So, you know, get your.
I know he doesn't hit for thebest average in the world, this
net, but he can get on base,right, he can get on base, he
can get you to, he can steal,but he's a stolen by his threat,
right.
And then, yeah, cheerio hittingright behind him, speed, you
know, has some pop.
He's just a good like solidhitter, solid hitter.

(01:06:16):
And yeah, I think, I mean Ithink you could even bat Reese
cleanup, maybe a LH3 Reesecleanup, but that's like tomato,
tomato.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Like.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
I'd mess around with that a little bit throughout the
year, especially when Reese islike.
When Reese is like full tilt,Reese, it's like dang, you know
what I mean.
So like if you can have him upon cleanup while he's like on a
hot streak, I would do that ninetimes out of ten, because if
you can just get those guys upbefore him on base, he's going
to knock them in.
Like when he's in a dry spell,maybe bump him down to six and

(01:06:50):
seven because he's going to dothat.
He's a streaky hitter.
But um, yeah, I like your lastassessment the best, I think
well, I got one now.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
So the uh, they're wondering what the lineup's
gonna look like now.
He has to mitchell at six.
So I would go to rang at one,trio at two, yell at three,
contraris four, hoskins five.
I would take mitchell at six.
I would.
I think mitch, like I saidbefore, he's got a lot of power
threat.
He's got a lot of power threat,he's got the ability to put the
ball in play and he's got somespeed.
So I like him at the six spotthere.

(01:07:19):
Then I would take, I would say,give me Joey Ortiz in the seven
, give me in my eight spot.
We would have it's going to bedepending on who's playing where
, but I think you're going tohave Blake Perkins at center.
So I'm going to take give meSal Frelick in my eighth spot

(01:07:41):
and then give me Blake Perkinsin my ninth and then Yelich will
be my DH and that's how I'llroll it there.
So I mean, I think that's afairly darn good lineup.
I would take that to waragainst just about anybody.
With what?
They got speed, they got power,they got contact.
There's some stars mixed inthere.
They got some stars mixed inthere.
If yelich gives you a productiveyear like he was last year.

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I mean he's batting 300 beforehe got hurt.
I mean, if you get a productiveyear out of yelich in a three
spot, you get another year, likethey did with churrio, and
contraris continues to hit likehe is and h Hoskins has a bounce
back year.
Watch out for that lineup.
That is a dangerous if Hoskinshits.
Right, if Hoskins can hit,that's a dangerous middle of the
lineup with Contreras andYelich and Hoskins, and then to

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add in Bryce Terang and JacksonChurio in there too, with a way
that we know that Churio can hit, that's a dangerous lineup
right there.
And you might not have the starpower of the phillies and the
dodgers, right, but you havesome good hitters mixed in there
, so that'd be a deadly lineup.
So I mean, I like, I like wherethe bros are at lineup wise.
I think you can add bats.
I really do, uh, but this wasthe last question.

(01:08:45):
Um, oh, we got perkins willplay one out of four days.
Give that guy up.
He's a fill-in.
I get it all right, I get it,but guess what, he's the best
center fielder in all baseballwhen he plays.
So I enough said, like the dudedefensively, he's a dog if, if
he hits me 200 and plays thedefense that he does, we'll make

(01:09:06):
it up somewhere else.
We'll make it up somewhere else.
Like I don't know, you cannotwatch the tape of blake perkins
playing center field and deny heis the best defensive center
fielder in baseball.
Like you can't like watchinghim, watching him play the field
, glide back to baseballs backthere, make the easy.
He makes everything look easyin that outfield.
I trust him more than anybodyelse in that outfield.

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So, yeah, one out of four days,I'm not.
I'm not saying that you wrong,that yes, there's better hitters
.
Like, don't get me wrong,there's better hitters, but
defensively you can't beat them.
That'd be like saying if we hadTerang batting 200, that we're
not gonna play Terang out there,like Terang's gonna play second
base, he's a dog.
So I'm putting Blake Perkinsout in center just because I

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don't need him to be my MVP.
I don't need him to be my bestshooter on my team.
I need him to be a defensivepresence.
I need him to be the bestdefender that I know that he can
be.
So I'm like I get what peoplesay when they hate Perkins just
because of his bat.
Get it.
But to say I wouldn't say he'sa fill-in, I wouldn't.
I would say the dude's adynamic outfielder.

(01:10:10):
Dynamic outfielder like I don'tknow.
Aaron, you watch, so I've madeyou watch clips of them and I
made you look up stats.
So I'm like that dude's thebest center fielder in baseball.
When he plays defensively he'sthe best center fielder in
baseball I mean, yeah, he'sdefinitely.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
I.
I can't speak.
I don't want to be likeinaccurate and say he's like he
is, he's not, but he's in theconversation, like I can from my
from my vantage.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
He didn't have the games last year, I think to make
it in the Gold Gloveconversation.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
I mean, yeah, he's a finalist.
So, that being said, like he'sno slouch, right, like I'm not
going to say it, like I can't,because even you know the guy
from the Rockies.
I mean when's the last time Iwatched the Rockies?
Right, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I think he's like very good oh yeah, they're
dynamic, but like there's justguys I'm trying to think you
know off the top of my head umyeah oh, uh, uh, shoot.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
I can't.
He can't hit for crap either.
He was on the Rays and then theBlue Jays.
Kiermaier, kiermaier he's a dogon like one of the best center
fielders probably in thisgeneration.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
He's like a Sal Frelick.
He definitely is.
He's like a Sal Frelick kind ofdude, like he just lay it all
out?

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Yeah, no, just those like Mullins.
You know you talk about Perkins, you talk about the guy from
the Rockies there, like he's inthe conversation right, like,
and I'll have to go back andwatch some more.
My goal is to watch some moreBrewers baseball this year
anyway, just to get up to morespeed there.
But and I love baseball so,like you know, the more the
better catch him when I can, butI definitely take your word for

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it.
I mean I'm looking at his stats, looking at the fact that he is
a gold glove finalist.
No slouch, you know what I mean.
So you can make the case.
Hey, he's worth it.
On defense, his defense makesup for the not-so-great average,
the not-so-great offense.
Like Kiermaier has never been aguy that can hit or a guy that

(01:12:10):
can rake.
He's not a guy that.
But I mean he started on theJays or on the Rays.
I should say Started on theJays for a while.
I don't know if he's stillthere.
But yeah, I mean you can makethe case, or at least you know
maybe five out of seven games,like that type of deal.
There's a.
You know if you can.
Yeah, like, look at Kiermaierlast season If you can.

(01:12:30):
Yeah like.
Look at Kiermaier last season,you know Toronto and the Dodgers
hit a buck 97 with five homeruns.
Like that ain't giving you much.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Here's the point into perspective of Blake Perkins
300 put outs one air, yeah 300put outs one air.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
I'd love to see the guy on the run Like how.
You know what I mean.
How's the guy on the run?

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
I mean I don't have the complete metrics in front of
me Cause I don't want to godeep diving right now but I get
what people say when they'relike the dude can't hit.
Sure, he can't hit.
Last year I believe his battingaverage was probably around I
don't know Probably 200.
Like it wasn.
I'm not saying he bad 240, lastyear he batted 240.
Like he had, I mean, 43 RBIs.

(01:13:16):
At one point he was one of thebetter hitters in the lineup.
And I get what people say, Likehe doesn't have a bat to write
home about.
But you show me a lineup outthere that they have nine dudes
who bat over like two 50, everydude bats over two 50.
Some guys are out therestrictly for their defense.
Like that is why they're outthere and that's why blake
perkins is out there for hisdefense.

(01:13:38):
They don't put him at the topof the lineup and say like I'm
expecting you to get me somehits here, I'm expecting you to
rip off some rbis, like he's inthere for his defense and that's
what you got to do.
Sometimes you have guys who arejust defenders exactly no,
exactly what, how many?

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
because I want to compare them real quick.
How many games did he play lastyear?

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
He played in 121 games.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Okay, and let me see Fielding percentage.
You got that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Fielding percentage for him 997.
He's almost perfect out in thefield.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Look at people dissing on this guy.
That is why, and just how manyput out, I'll give you.
I got doyle's stats here fromthe, from the rockies uh, what
do you got for doyle?
You got, you got put outs on on.
Uh, that's the only other thingI wanted to just mention, yeah
put outs was 300, assists wereseven, I believe seven.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Okay, he had two double plays.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
There's a case to me.
I mean so doyle had a good manymore opportunities, right.
So he played in 149 games, so20 plus games, right.
But yeah, I mean doyle did makefour errors on the season.
He has a fielding percentage of991, so not not nearly as good,
honestly.
Um, and he's got, he's goteight assists, so he's got one
more assist.
But a lot more games played umand put outs 426.

(01:14:58):
So I mean tomatoes to you know,tomatoes to the mottos there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
But yeah, I mean, all I'm saying is like 997 is.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Is video game numbers ?
Is video game numbers?

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
and brenton doyle hit what 260?
I mean he ain't that muchbetter than Blake Perkins.
So like, come on now.
Come on, I get it.
I get the hate for his batting.
I get the hate for his batting,but I mean he's not.
Are you expecting him?
Like, do you want the wholelineup to hit 300?
Like, you're not going to getthat.

(01:15:38):
Like, if you get me a lockdowndefender out there in center
field who could run downeverything and bring back as
many home runs as he did, likethere's like a freaking 10
minute video on him bringingback home runs and it's a long
bit, like it's a long video anda lot of clips.
Like that's how good he is outin center field.
So I I mean, yes, I wish he hada higher batting average.
Maybe he does, Maybe he turnsit around this year.
But I mean, if you want defense, give me Blake Perkins.

(01:15:58):
Like, just give me BlakePerkins, and that's my dude.
Like, if you give me anoutfield of Blake Perkins,
Garrett Mitchell and Sal Frelick, good luck getting a ball down
in the outfield with them guys.
So we got a couple couple crosstext in line here.
Uh, brandley gilbert says doyou?

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
think we'll ever see anything close to nvp.
Yelich, yeah, I mean last year.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
He was last year, yeah, I agree, last year up
until he got hurt.
So, yeah, I I do think he's gotthe capability.
I think it was about stayinghealthy and keeping that back
right, because when your backain't right and you're trying to
hit, it ain't gonna end well,like you're feeling it with
every swing.
So, yeah, I think we could Ireally do.
The hard part is nowadays youhave to deal with shoya otani
and the dude.

(01:16:41):
Just I mean, well, for somereason people still throw him
dead red down the middle.
But that's besides the point.
Like, sometimes I'm like, okay,shoya otani's a great hitter,
don't get me wrong, I, I, he's agreat hitter, but I see the
pitches that some of these guysare throwing to him.
I'm like, why are youchallenging him high?
Why are you challenging himhigh and dead red?
Like, why, like, why, and likethrowing a sinker or like

(01:17:03):
throwing some crappy changeupand you leave it hang.
Like what is Joey Otani goingto do with that?
Like, sometimes I watch it.
I'm like, yeah, you're, there'sa reason why he's batting 300,
has got this many bombs.
Like I'm watching guys throw tohim there.
Uh, we got another one here.
Uh, perkins is good in thefield, but can he get a better
batting average?
I, I hope so.

(01:17:24):
Like I'm not saying that, likeI don't wish he had a better
batting average, I'm just sayingthat at sometimes you gotta
sacrifice offense for defense,right?
Sometimes Sometimes you justgotta.
And I tell you what nobody candeny me that if the game was on
the line and you needed somebodyout in the outfield, you
wouldn't want Blake Perkins, youwouldn't want him, like that
dude's a dog, and if he stayslike that in the outfield I'd

(01:17:46):
take him night in and night out.
The Brewers did.
They did make a move.
We did see the Brewers signElvin Rodriguez to a one-year
deal, club option for 2026 withMilwaukee.
There pitch 26.
Uh, he had he's 26 pitch lastseason in Tokyo, went one and
one with a 1.80 ERA set one save, 32 games, one start at 1.16

(01:18:10):
whip pitch with Detroit, tampaBay at one point short time.
Went overseas, went to Tokyo,had a decent year16 whip pitched
with Detroit, tampa Bay at onepoint short time.
Went overseas, went to Tokyo,had a decent year.
They're bringing him back.
We'll see what he does herewith the Brewers.
Just a little tidbit, just alittle signing there we do have
to get.
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I hate to get out of theBrewers because we've had it was
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But I want to get to theBadgers game with USC Cause.
I want to preview that gamehere real fast.
Badgers take it on USC tomorrow.

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So I know it was a little weird.
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We had to double up our ads.
We completely spaced on themtonight there.
I know sorry, we spaced out ontonight here.
We got so long with the brewers.
It's been a.
It was a great talk.
That was a great brewer talk.
That was a great brewer talk.
There.
We got lots in depth.
I mean not many people eventhinking about the brewers this
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(01:20:54):
Like it's middle of the season,we're ready to rock and roll,
like that's awesome and it'sclose.
I mean, it's getting close.
Brewer baseball is right aroundthe corner.
Their catchers, pitchers andcatchers will report there soon
enough.
So I want to get to the badgersusc.
We got to get to our nfl picksfor this weekend here.
We got to talk about thateagles and everything like that.
So quickly let's get to theBadgers versus USC here.
So Badgers going in taking onUSC.

(01:21:17):
That'll be tomorrow there.
I just lost my cab.
I had it wide open and I lostit.
That'll be a two o'clock startthere on Big Ten Network coming
up tomorrow there from USC.
So that's going to be out therein California, the Gallon
Center out there in USC.
It's so weird to think thatthey're sending teams out to Cal
.
I know, bless everybody inCalifornia, the firefighters and
everything like that, likeprayers to everything that's

(01:21:37):
happening out there.
But it's so weird to see gameshappening out there right now,
like to think about the tragedythat's been out there so far.
And then it's like there's agame going on Like it's it's.
It's different, it definitelyis, but the Badgers heading out
there, they got that West Coastswing coming up taking on USC to
start it here.
And then UCLA USC right nowthey're 11-6, 3-3 in conference

(01:21:57):
play right now.
Right now, if you look at thisall-time season series between
Wisconsin and USC, it's tied 2-2.
So they've only faced eachother four times in program
history and they're 2-2 rightnow against USC.
There Some notable wins for USCand they've two and two right
now against USC.
There some notable wins for USC, and they've been as of late.
They got a big win againstnumber 13 Illinois.
That was in Illinois.
They won that game 82 to 72.

(01:22:19):
We know how good Illinois is.
Usc went into Illinois got awin, so that's a big win for
them.
And then against Iowa they won99 to 89 there.
But the losses are what standout and it was a struggle to
start this year for USC.
They lost to Michigan 85 to 74,lost to Indiana 82 to 69, lost
to Oregon 68 to 60.
Lost to New Mexico, lost to StMary's they only scored 36

(01:22:40):
points against St Mary's.
And then they lost to Cal 71 to66.
So a lot of losses there to betalked about for USC, a slow
start to the season for them.
But they got some good playerson this team.
I mean Desmond uh Claude, theguard, 16 points per game right
now.
He's four rebounds, fourassists, 50 from the field not a
bad shooting percentage at allfor him there and 30 from

(01:23:01):
downtown.
So he's been shooting the ballpretty darn well on the season
there.
He leads him in scoring.
Looking at the next guy upthere, chibuzo ugba I don't know
how to say his name there,except for Chabuzo Ogbo or
something like that.
All right, 12 points a game,4.5 rebounds, 41% from the field
, 39% from downtown there forChabuzo.
There, and then Yates Williamsand Thomas they're all about 10

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points a game right there.
So a pretty balanced scoringattack all the way across for
USC.
I mean, look at the points pergame there Desmond Kazma with 16
, and then Chibuzo with 12, andthen Yates and Williams and
Thomas, all with 10 points agame.
So I mean pretty balancedacross the board.
They're scoring for this team.
They like to find, they like touse cutters, they like to.
That ball's got to be moving.

(01:23:42):
It's like we talk aboutWisconsin, right, that ball's
got to be moving.
They're scoring it.
They thrive off of ball.
Movement is the biggest thing,so ball movement is the biggest
thing.
So if you can slow down thatbasketball, you slow down USC in
this one.
Some of the team stats to goover for USC 77 points per game.
They allow about 71 points pergame.
You look at the Badgers theyscore over 80 plus per game
there.
So you're putting that inperspective.
What can the Badgers offense doagainst the defense?

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For USC that's held teams.
71 points per game on the season.
There they're about 48% fromthe field, 34% from three, 74%
from the field, 34% from three,74% from the free throw line
there.
11.6 turnovers per game thereAbout six steals a game.
About three blocks per game, 16assists, like I was talking
about with the ball movementthere.
They rely heavily on thatbasketball moving around and
creating open shots out of that.

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So that's 16 assists per gamedefinitely shows that.
And they get about 17.7 foulsper game.
So they foul a good amount.
They foul a good amount there.
So the Badgers you know whatthe Badgers love to do.
They love to get to the freethrow line.
This team in USC loves to foul,so those two things could work
out in the Badgers' favor there.
Keys to the game for me here.
So I'll hit my keys real fasthere.

(01:24:44):
The Badgers they got to get inthe paint.
They got to own the paint.
They got to win the paint.
Right, we always talk aboutevery game.
They got to win the paint there.
Use the size advantage.
Biggest guys walking out therefor USC about 6'10".
They're about 6'10", you neverknow.
Right, you get those skewedasterisks in there.
They're about 6'10".
So your biggest guys walkingout at 6'10".
Badgers got to use their sizeadvantage Ut talked about in

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that last game against OhioState.
They went away from Crowell.
Crowell's being huge as of latehere.
Utilize the big fella, you willwin this basketball game.
Work it inside out.
That's the biggest thing.
Work it inside out.
Crowell's got to be big time.
You'll be just fine in this one.
Here.
You got to control the glass,like I was just talking about
owning the paint, controllingthe glass.
Win the rebounding battle.
Limit the offensive rebounds inthis game.

(01:25:28):
Ohio State in that second halfwas able to get a lot of
offensive rebounds againstBadgers.
Badgers have got to clean upthe glass in this game here and
clean up that offensive glass.
So those are some of the thingsI'm watching for.
Limit the turnovers.
Limit the turnovers.
Six steals, a game for USC.
They want to get after you.
They want to turn you over.
How are you going to lose thisgame?
You play sloppy.
Control the basketball in thisgame here.
Limit them turnovers, you'll bejust fine.

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Get to the rim and win at thefoul line.
That's what I was justmentioning there with the follow
17.7, a game close to the topof the big 10,.
Get to the free throw line inthis game and win it from the
free throw line.
That's.
It seems like such a stupidthing, right?
You shouldn't have to rely onfree throws.
Guess what, when you shoot themat a high percentage, you shoot
it well and you get 20 plus,you'll free throw line.
Control it there, get yourguards going downhill, work

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yourself towards the rim.
Utilize the depth.
Utilize the depth in this one.
I want to see carter gilmoreget some minutes.
I want to see him put up someshots.
I want to see kamari mcgee outthere, jack janicki, xavier amos
I want to see those guys getminutes and I want to see him
put up big minutes and put upbig numbers for you.
That's going to be huge.
Just get bench scoring right.
The badgers years past, eventhis year, they get bench

(01:26:32):
scoring, but it's limited, right.
I want to see the badgers getsome.
I want to see the badgers getsome extended minutes from that
bench there and I want to seethem be able to knock down some
shots.
So that's what I'm watching foron this one here.
Don't settle for bad shots.
Late in that game against ohiostate, they were settling.
They weren't working in thepost.
They're playing iso basketballthat crap iso basketball that I
was talking about.
The ball's glued to theperimeter.
Work for good shots.

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Don't take bad shots in thisone.
Turn up that tempo defensively.
Usc turns the basketball over11.6 times per game there.
Right, almost 12.
Turn usc over.
Utilize what you can get afterthem defensively.
Turn that baby up there andforce some turnovers.
Deter those passing lanes.
Right, I said, when usc is attheir best they get all them
assists.
16 assists per game, that's aboatload of assists.

(01:27:13):
You got to be able to slow themdown there to turn those
passing lanes.
Try to cut them off there.
Their best when they're movingthe basketball, take that away
from be in front, stop thepenetration, stop the kickouts.
You'll be just fine in thisgame.
So big game coming up for thebadgers here to start out this
west coast swing that they gotcoming up here with uh us, then
UCLA coming up early next weekthere.

(01:27:33):
So a couple of big games outthere on the West Coast there.
Usc, I mean not highly thoughtabout in the Big Ten right now,
but Michigan just lost toMinnesota last night there on a
buzzer beater.
If nobody saw that Minnesotawon on a buzzer beater against
Michigan there.
So we know nobody's untouchableanymore, right, nobody's
untouchable.
Michigan was undefeated.
They went into Minnesota,minnesota, I didn't really have

(01:27:55):
much of a prayer in that game.
They were Owen six andconference play.
Pull off the wind, right,anything can happen to big 10,
especially on the road.
So when you're going on theroad, the big 10, you got to
control the little things, freethrows, rebounding the little
things in those games that canwin you those big games, right.
So this is a big game for thebadgers here.
To get it right, start outright on the west coast there,
go to ucla, pick up a win andthen come back home and face

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nebraska, because for somereason nebraska worries me just
because of connor assijan comingback.
I just that just worries me.
Connor assijan coming backthere.
He might light us on fire, likethat's just my worry with
connor assijan there.
So we're just about at the 89minute mark.
I believe I was right inthinking 89 meant an hour 29.
So we're gonna get to our nextfact or story here in just a

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second.
I want to get, we're gonna pickour games real fast here.
We're at the end right hour 30sare in.
We're at the end of the showhere, but I want to get to our
picks here for the weekend.
So, aaron, let's get to ourlast.
Hold on, we got seven six.
We got six seconds there.
We're going to throw in.
Our 89th minute is going to bebecause Major League the movie

(01:29:03):
came out in 1989.
So Bob Uecker was that movie.
I got to be honest with you.
He was that movie Before youget to your factor.
I had one.
Jonathan LeCroy once asked BobUecker Let me see if I can find
that one.
I wrote it down here somewherein my notebook of notes here.
Jonathan LeCroy asked Bob aboutMajor League and how he enjoyed
filming it.

(01:29:24):
He said that he ad-libbed hislines and never watched it after
.
He was serious.
I love that movie, I absolutelylove that movie and Bob Uecker
makes that movie.
Like, honestly, like, imagineit, imagine the movie Major
League without Bob Uecker.
Honestly, like you just throwsome Joe Steele in there, it
doesn't.

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It really doesn't Like whenMajor League 2, when Mishiro
Tanaka is out there and heknocks himself out cold for the
second time this week.
You know some people say thathe's, you know, playing hard.
I just think he's trying to getout of the game or something
like that.
Like Bob Uecker just broughtthat movie to life and I don't.
I'm going to watch Major Leaguethis weekend.
I'm going to watch them both.
I'm going to watch both movies,like he made those movies.

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So, aaron, in our 89th minuteof the show here, what do you
got for our last fact story ofBob Uecker for the day here?

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
Yeah, they're, like you know, probably missed the
mark on some of them justbecause, like you know, there's
so many.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
It's so hard to pick the best ones.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
I kind of just try to pick some interesting like just
outside of baseball, evenbecause we know, you know he's
Mr Baseball but he showed up inthe same Miller Lite commercials
as Rodney Dangerfield, johnMadden, dick Buckus, bubba Smith
, george Steinbrenner, RedOrbach, tom Heisselman a bunch
of guys right, like literallyBoop Pal, another Oriole player

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back from his era.
Like a bunch of guys right, justa bunch of legendary guys.
I mean you're talking JohnMadden, you're talking like just
big company and like you knowsome, some guys on the east
coast like they don't know, hey,miller Lite's Milwaukee, but
like you know, if you, if youknow, you know, right, so like
just the fact that herepresented like Miller Lite too
, that's a big deal.

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Like that's, you know you'retalking like once again you're
tying into America, baseball,baseball, miller Lite, milwaukee
, like Wisconsin, like it alljust kind of like goes together.
So the fact that he was likekind of you know, miller Lite's
ambassador for a little bitPretty cool stuff, like you know
it ties into the whole actingthing.
Like he can, he's a you know,he's a Swiss Army knife, the guy

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can do it all.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
So there's the Tuba incident to um the two by
incident that he didn't get toplay for the car so he played
for the Cardinals and he didn'tget to play in the fall classic
and he insisted it was becausethey iced them out because of
the tuba incident.
So there was a uh, there werethree Dixie bands playing the
outfield during batting practicebefore one of the games in.

(01:31:50):
Euchre had donned a tuba andused it to shag fly balls so he
was running around the tubashagging fly balls out there and
uh management didn't appreciatethe show so euchre was slapped
with a 260 bill for the dentedtuba there.
So they said he said they icedhim out of the world series of
fall classic there, but I meantechnically wasn't part of the

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team that uh went to the worldseries there for the cardinals.
So that's just awesome.
And yeah, I did have the storythere about the the baseball
card.
Um, I did not believe it, butevery one of his baseball cards
had the wrong birthday on theback of it.
Up until 2014 they all saidthat he was born in 1935.
So this article that I wasreading it, just it made sure

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that you knew that.
It said that he was born in1935 and he never cared to fix
the mistake until 2014, when hefinally set the record straight
on his 80th birthday, when hetold everybody that he was born
in 1934 and not 1935 there.
So that that's just awesome.
That's just like it took thatlong.
And then they finally like yeah, you guys have gotten it wrong
for years upon years now.

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So that's just that's just likeit took that long.
And then they finally like yeah, you guys have gotten it wrong
for years upon years now.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
So that's just, that's absolutely hilarious, did
you?
Did you see where he said, uh,like about how, in 1965, he's
like my baseball card came outand he's like I knew my career
was over because there was nopicture on it.
Like that's just, that's such aeuchre.
Like that's once again just hishumor is, you know, top notch,
like being a good sport about it, but it's like dang, they
really left my picture.
Like that's, that is a littleslap in the face, right, it's

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like man, I think he alwaysposed left handed in his
baseball cards too.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
I'm pretty darn sure if you look it up.
I think he, I think he alwaysposed left handed, because I
think Jonathan Lucroy did thesame thing, because that's what
Bob did.
So he did the same thingbecause that's what Bob did.
So he did the same thing thatBob did is he'd always pose like
he was a left-handed hitter.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
I think that I swear.
That's what I.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
What Lucroy, yeah, yeah yeah one of his things
there that that was awesome,like just uh, and Lucroy would
just kind of copied him and justlike took it that same way.
Um, but they I did see one ofuh, I just wanted to put it out
there.
But I did see carlos gomeztalking about bob buecher and
early in his days in milwaukee,like carlos gomez was lost, like
he didn't know what to do, likehe was struggling and he was

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sucking and he didn't know whatto do.
And bob was one of the firstones who came into that locker
room, put his hand on hisshoulder and said you're gonna
be all right, you're gonna beall right, you're gonna start,
you're gonna be all right,you're going to be all right,
you're going to start, you'regoing to be all right.
And he was.
And we all know what CarlosGomez kind of turned into with
the Brewers there.
I mean awesome, awesome centerfielder, awesome player, and
never an all-star player.
Well, he was an all-star butnever an over-the-top hitter or

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anything like that.
But Bob Uecker I mean that'sthe fact that he had.
they said that they actually hebrought, they brought him into
the locker room to talk toplayers, like during slumps and
stuff like that, like they'dbring a locker too right yeah,
locker, he would come down andlike when they were in slumps or
anything like that, he wouldcome down and you know he would
talk to the players and he'd gethim riled up and get him all

(01:34:47):
fiery again and everything likethat and tell him he was gonna
be okay and like we'll be fineand like he was just the heart
and soul of that team andeverybody knew him, everybody
loved him and he talked toeverybody and you know, talked
to freddie.
Him and freddie had a goodrelationship and I mean that
clubhouse, just they loved him.
And I know my one, buddy, hewas down there at a brewery game
and he said he saw bob ukerroll up in his corvette, like he

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had a corvette.
He saw him.
He said he saw him roll up inthe jet black corvette, almost
run into somebody, and then hekept going and he'd always he'd
park in the stadium andeverything like that.
But he rolls through and almosthit somebody on the way through
there, like buddy, I meanrolled that jet black corvette.
He was pretty darn awesome inthat way there.
But, aaron, let's get.
Let's get to our picks.
Let's get to our picks quick.
We'll wrap it up for the dayhere.

(01:35:28):
Um, let's start out.
In the afc we got the saturdaygames.
Uh, chiefs and texans.
I think the texans keep itclose.
I think they keep it close.
I don't think it's.
It says eight and a half.
I don't think.
I really don't think.
Can't see chiefs blow them out.
I'm gonna take the chiefs towin it, but I think it's gonna
be closer.
I like the texans defense.

Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
I think they can turn guys over I, I do and I like,
I'm, I'm, I'm on the fence on ifthey'll blow them out, or like
to me it's a coin toss like it'ssplitting hairs because I'm
like, ah man, the Chiefs comingoff a week of rust like my
home's, like fresh.
But I do hear what you'resaying.
I think the Chiefs win.
I'm not sure by how much.
I would be cautious to bet likeChiefs spread, but I, I think

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the.
I mean, hey, you called theTexans last week.
That was a great.
I think you were the only one,yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
I won the picks last week.
I won the picks last week.
Yeah, there you go, I think itcame down to the commanders, I
was the only one to pick thecommanders to win, and then my
wife picked the Vikings to winand we all picked the Rams, so
she was the only one who couldhave beat me after that and the
Vikings lost, so I got the win.
I got the win off of that ohcrap, I got to get the picks in

(01:36:38):
there.
Brantley, if you're still outthere in the comments section,
you can pick the games alongwith us.
Anybody in the comments section.

Speaker 3 (01:36:47):
if you want to pick the games with us here, pick
them with us.
I'm with you, though I thinkChiefs win.
I don't know about how much,but the Chiefs win.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Okay, okay.
So we both got the Chiefswinning that first game there.
Let's stick AFC.
Well, no, let's go to the otherSaturday game.
I'm pretty sure we got Lionsand Commanders.
That's the other Saturday gamethere.
So who do we got Lions,commanders, no-transcript.

(01:37:36):
And if anybody wants a gamewhere they go for it on fourth
down every single time, it'sgoing to be this one.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
Yeah, both teams.
I'm with you Once again talkingabout a team coming off a bye
there.
Detroit probably needed it morethan anybody coming off a bye
there.
Detroit probably needed it morethan anybody you had talked
about so much there with theinjuries and stuff like that.
I think they I'm not going tosay they pummel them, but I
don't think Washington really,in the end, is close, to be
honest with you, I just thinkDetroit at home this is going to

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be that place is going to berocking there.
What Ford Field, I think theycall it there.
Yeah, give me the Lions, Ithink somewhat call it there.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
So, um, yeah, give me the lions, like I think,
somewhat easily there All right,all right, lions in that one
Next up, let's go flip it backover to.
We'll stay in the NFC Brantley.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
There, what's the?

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
show Brantley come in .

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Yeah, he said what's the shout out for?
And I was you and I'll just,hey, do the picks with us.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Yeah, we got the picks, Brantley.
We're asking you what you wantto do with the picks there.
Oh, I can't see his commentcoming in.
I don't know what's going onnow.
I don't know what's going on,but tell me what he picks.
Tell me your picks there,brantley.
Who do you got?
We got Chiefs and Lions alreadydone.
We got.
Who do you got in the Lions andCommanders?
That's what we're trying tofigure out, right?

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
now.
Oh there he's coming in.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
Yeah he Got it.
Now the comments are comingacross on my end.
Now I'm seeing them.
Give me your picks, brantley,who do you got?
We didn't have John John's notin here tonight.
I was going to tell him that helost, just like his Oregon
Ducks lost.
Exactly exactly, got to, got to.

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We'll let brantley catch upthere.
He's got the lions and thechiefs 100.
There we go, all right, allright.
So we got lions and we gotchiefs 100.
Next up we have, oh, let's see,here we got eagles and rams and
I I told you the other night,aaron, I was watching a
different show over there onintegrity sports and they're
like this is gonna be an epicblowout.
The rams can't keep up with thefreaking eagles, blah, blah,
blah.
Guess what?

(01:39:34):
They said that about thepackers too, and the eagles look
like trash against the packers.
I'm just kidding.
They won the football game,right, and I heard I can't
remember what espn announcer orwhat espn analyst was the other
day, but I was maybe on fox andhe's like you're just nuts if
you think that the uh e Eaglesoffense didn't play a good game.
They won by multiple scoresagainst Packers.

(01:39:55):
And I'm like what Are youserious right now, like if you
think that was a goodperformance by the Eagles
offense, I'm sorry Like that wasnot an epic performance, that
was not an epic performancewhatsoever.
So I mean I don't want todiscredit them here because I
thought the eagles they were thebetter team.
I think they're the better teamthan the packers and by all

(01:40:17):
means yes, but like they did notplay a good game and the
packers played a semi-decentgame and didn't shoot themselves
in the foot.
Man, oh man, like come on, um,I don't think.
Okay, I think the eagles winthis game.
I think the eagles win.
I don't think they blow theRams out.
I really don't.
Like you have Matt Stafford,you have Nakua.

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I get that they ran for andthis was the argument that I got
from the Philly fans the otherday.
I was talking about is they werelike oh yeah, you know, saquon
went for a boatload of yards.
The first time they saw him Iwas like this is a different
game.
The first time the packersplayed the eagles, aj brown went
off and davante smith had agood game.
Guess what happened?
The second game, not so much.
Jalen hurts was coming back.

(01:40:58):
I'm injured.
I get that he had a concussion.
He was coming back, but likethey did not look good and the
eagles defense looked good,don't be wrong, the eagles
defense looked good.
So I'm saying I think phillywins it, but I think it's close.
I, I think it's close there, Ithink it's definitely they're
laying six and a half on phillyright now.
I don't like that.
I I'd give them three.
I'd give them three like I'm.

(01:41:19):
I think philly can win, like Ithink philly will win.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
But I, the rams, are not a pushover team and you know
, I know their defense doesn'tlook great, but they have some
playmakers on that defense, soI'm gonna go philly, but I would
say it's a close ball gamethere I, I hear you, I'm not and
I'm not trying to be phillyfront runner now, because now
I'm gonna sound like it right,but the only reason I say that

(01:41:43):
is three to five inches of snow,33 degrees there in philly yeah
, but I said that about the49ers coming into Lambeau when
they played Aaron Rodgers andguess what.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
Yeah, but the 49ers won.

Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
Sam Fran is like they do get some cold, like, hey,
they're playing in SoFi everyweek.
So give me the fact that theRams are like, oh man, like you
know, playing a nice in SoFi,you know climate-controlled
environment, I just think that'sgoing to throw them off of it.
I don't know Matt Stafford,dude, matt Stafford, I know, but

(01:42:17):
he played inside in Detroit too.
So I'm not saying he can't doit, I know, I know.
I think it's the like I'm usedto this, I'm used to this, I'm
used to this.
And then boom, give effect.
I agree, while their play's ineffect only because of that,
like I think the spread's likeright, where I feel like they'll
get them at, I think seven'sfair, I I could even see seven

(01:42:38):
to ten in this I.
I just feel like they're gonnado enough.
I am a little bit worried with,uh, nicobe dean going down.
Um, excuse me, a big reason whythat defensive front gets
pressure is nicobe dean thisyear, um, towards acl against
the Packers there last week.
So not great.
And I am a little bit worriedabout the Rams front.
You know you talk about the,the Rams defense being like so

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so it definitely.
You know it has its strengthsand weaknesses, but their front
is a strength.
But I do think.
I think the Eagles will doenough.
This to me screams is thisgoing to be an ugly game?
I just feel like neitheroffense will really get rolling
that well because of the weather.
I'm worried that they're goingto load the box and limit Saquon
drastically.
So I would almost look at thisas like I don't know if Saquon

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gets a monster game here, but Ithink the Eagles win by 7-10.
I just think they make enoughplays defensively and it's
probably a somewhat low, lowscoring game, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
I think I mean I just feel like that I gotta, yeah, I
well, yeah, I agree, I don'tthink it's gonna be a blowout, I
really don't.
I don't think the eagles runaway with this game.
I think the rams keep it close.
I do.
I think the rams keep it.
I gotta pick a different onehere.
I gotta pick somebody differenthere, because everybody my wife
, she's chiming in now, shewants in on the picks.
She said chief sly is eaglesand bills, so she took all the

(01:43:54):
all the top seeds there.
Brantley, who do you got?
He's telling us over here dancampbell, he doesn't like, uh,
he doesn't like something aboutthe eagles or something I don't
know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
But brantley, who do?

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
you got?
Who do you got eagles and rams?
Who do you got eagles and rams?

Speaker 3 (01:44:08):
who's brantley a?
Isn't he a Patriots fan, right?
No, he's a.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
Vikings fan.
Oh man, he's got he's like thePacker fans right now.
We got no say in the boat rightnow.
What's going on out there?
I'm going to.
I got to go back.
I got to go back here.
I got to pick a different gamehere.
Nobody's expecting.

(01:44:32):
Give me the Rams, wow.
Give me the Rams.
Give me the Rams, give me theRams, go into Philly and just
blow it open.
Right, if and this is what I'mgoing to say, this is what I'm
going to say I get the weather,I get the weather, I do.

(01:44:54):
But if Philly comes out and theyplay another game like they did
on the game against the Packers, if they play another game like
that, matt Stafford of thatoffense ain't going to blink.
They ain't going to blink Likethey'll be just fine in a game
like that.
I know the secondary played allright.
I know they played all right,but they also don't have
playmakers like Puka, nakula andCooper Cup out there.
So if Philly plays like theydid against Green Bay, if they

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come out flat like that and theyplay like they did against
Green Bay, I don't put itagainst the Rams to win that
football game.
I don't.
I really don't.
I think they can adjust.
I think they can adjust towhat's happened.
Tyrone Williams is not anover-the-top back, but he's a
good enough back.
I'm going to take the Rams.
That's my upset, and anybodyout there who's like this guy's
an idiot because he's, like youknow, picking the Rams.

(01:45:35):
I'm just doing it because I gotto be different.
I got to be different becauseotherwise nobody's going to win
this.

Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
I thought you'd go Baltimore.
For sure, I really I thoughtyou'd go.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
No, my other one is going to be commanders over
lions.
That was going to.
I don't like the like.
Ravens over Bills isn't a coolupset, like last week.
I picked the Texans to beat theChargers Like.
I saw that as an upset.
I picked that, I saw it as anupset.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
I picked the Commanders over the.
Now you're scaring me becauseyou called that, so now you're
getting bad juju over here.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Give me all of them, give me the Texans over the
Chiefs, give me the Command orthe Eagles Just say screw it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
I mean, hey, all but the Eagles.
But that would be fun.
Hey, that would be fun.
Oh my goodness that would be,chaos.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
Brantley's got the Eagles.
Brantley's got the Eagles there, I see that one.
Now he's got the Eagles becauseI think they run Saquon more
than they did their last game.
Then they will win.
And Matt is good but he chokessometimes.
Yeah well, matt Stafford's adog.
Leave him alone.

Speaker 3 (01:46:33):
He is Nothing but respect for that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
That dude is a dog.
I hate when people are likeMahomes is the first one to do
this and Mahomes is the firstone to flip a sidearm.
It's like watch prime MatthewStafford.
If you watch Rodgers andMatthew Stafford in their prime,
it's like this has happenedbefore guys stafford in their
prime.
It's like this has happenedbefore guys like this.
I know mahomes is a generationalquarterback and I know he's
fantastic.

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Like don't get me wrong, he's agreat quarterback, but like
mass stafford was slinging thatbaby sidearm long before, long
before, and aaron rogers wasdropping dimes in the corner of
the end zone long before.
It's like you know, I getmahomes is fantastic, but like
mass stafford, he's a dog.
He's still a great quarterback,so that's gonna be.

(01:47:17):
I think that's gonna be a heckof a game.
I really do.
I think that could be a heck ofa game there.
I don't think it's a blowout.
I know I was listening, like Isaid, to that show the other
night there and they were likeoh, it's gonna be 31 to 14,
philly.
And I'm like whoa, like there's, there's overconfidence and
there's overconfidence, brother.
Like that's, that's rough.
And then they're likecommanders are gonna get
completely torched by the lionsand I'm like maybe right, but if

(01:47:40):
jane daniels got a dog in thefight, he's got a dog in the
fight.
Like jane daniels can ball outwith the best of them.
As eagle fans right.
Five touchdowns, multipleinterceptions still on the
football game like jane danielscan ball out with the best of
them.
So like I don't put it.
I honestly I know cj stroud canball, like I know he can ball.
I know that texans don't have alot of weapons, but you got joe

(01:48:01):
mixon.
You got joe mixon back there,you got nico collins.
Cj stroud can ball it out.
That defense is good.
Like I wouldn't put past allfour of these games to be tight
and to be very good contest.
I wouldn't.
I really wouldn't.
I know the chiefs got someplaymakers, I know they ball out
, but like the texans got a gooddefense and I know they can put
up points with joe mixon and cjstroud, if he gets hot

(01:48:24):
commanders, jane daniels can gethot.
Look at the rams with pukanakua and matthew stafford.
Like I I would not put past anyof these games to be like close
, like be good games I, yeah, no, I just gotta, I gotta say
something to brantley there.

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
I mean, hey, we're, we're avenging your.
Uh, I, you know, I'm sorry youhave sam donald.
Uh, I I tried to tell you allyear that that was gonna come
crashing down at some point.
Uh, the one playoff game hegets you to, you know, craps the
bed for you, like right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
But I don't know, I don't know if I can blame that
on Sam Like that.
How do you draw up?
I mean, I love Kevin O'Connell,I do, but when I'm watching the
Rams just constantly bringfreaking heat after heat and
he's getting blindsided and Iknow you have to be aware of
when to get rid of the footballand I know he wasn't aware on

(01:49:13):
some of the picks and are someof them.
You know he got sacked a coupleof times and he wasn't aware of
the pocket and everything likethat.
Like it wasn't I'm not sayingit wasn't, some of it wasn't his
fault, but like the Rams were,just they took what, what was it
?
A week earlier the lions didwhat Aaron Glenn did against
them.
They, them, they took what hedid and just did it again like

(01:49:38):
it's all they did.
They were like I'm gonna throwthis all at you and make you win
it.
And they shut down this.
I mean the receiving core forthe vikings, justin jefferson,
was blanketed.
Addison was blanketed.
It's like it just didn't lookthe same as what you would have
saw in the offensive line.
I mean they had I can'tremember it was a cam robinson.
Is that freaking?
Uh, was he a tackle or is he atguard?
I can't remember where he wasat, but he's.
I mean the Jacksonville Jaguars, basically let you have them.
For a reason, like he was badand we saw that in that game,

(01:50:00):
like it was just I don't know,like I I'm not saying Sam
Darnold play a good game, I'mnot but like it just looked bad
on all facets, like that linelooked bad.

Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
They shut down the run game.
It was just that was ugly.
Oh, I was just trying to say tobrantley I mean we're a vet,
like if we take the rams out youshould be, because they'd be.
I mean that's how I look at it,like yeah, if the packers if
the packers would have beat uslast week.
Um well, I don't know, I don'tmind.
See, I don't have a hatredtowards the rams, I'm just like,
whatever I.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
I don't hate the Eagles, but that one fan kind of
made me a sour taste for theEagles right now.
Like after he did that I waslike for all Philly fans I'm
sorry but go Rams, like I don'tknow that guy, just he left us
like a bad taste in my mouth.
I don't, I don't want to hate,I don't hate all Philly fans,
like I don't hate you, likeyou're like he.

(01:50:52):
He made me hate Philly for awhile.
Like that was just uncalled forbullcrap and everything like
that.
And I know I saw he did a formalapology and everything it's
like, of course, now, I did yeahtoo little, too late, brother,
you got fired and yeah, you knowbasically, yeah, your whole
life is screwed because youcouldn't figure out how to shut
up, like sorry, like I don'tknow, like, it's not that deep

(01:51:13):
man there's.

Speaker 3 (01:51:14):
players aren't going to get you a new job.
Let's put it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
No, nobody really cares at this point.
Here you effed up and now yougot to live with it and that
story is out there forever.
So, like good luck gettinganother hospitality job, because
that's not very hospitable ofyou in the Philly stadium there
to try and get Packer fans back.
So, but at least the Philly,the Philadelphia Eagles, made
right by the fan.
I know they're planning to sendsome Packer gear over to her

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and everything like that.
So I mean at least at least theEagles made it right, or well,
at least trying to make it rightthere.
And that fan is banned for lifeand like should be.
Like that was just terrible,that is absolutely terrible.
So get those people out ofanywhere near a stadium.
So, um, we do have our lastgame here.
Uh, let's see, here we got mywife said, the bills, brandley,

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who do you got bills and ravens.
I'm gonna take the bills.
I think the bills finally do it.
I think this is a dog fight.
I think it's like this is gonnabe a josh allen lead the bills
down the field late in the gameand win it kind of game, I think
.
I think it's like this is goingto be a Josh Allen lead the
Bills down the field late in thegame and win it kind of game I
think.
I think it's going to be Ravenstake the lead, bills go down
and win it.
I think that's what we're goingto see here.

Speaker 3 (01:52:23):
This is.
This is, I mean, to me this isthe game of the weekend.
It's a tough one, honestly.
I I know Baltimore played apretty crappy Steelers team that
looked, checked out at leasthalf the game.
Josh will wipe the fly.
I don't know if I see that, Ijust don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
I like that one.
I like the confidence.
I like that he's an angryVikings fan.
Now he doesn't care, he's justtelling it like screw off.

Speaker 3 (01:52:50):
That's fair.
I don't ever trust Lamar in theplayoffs completely and I don't
want to go away from that.
It is surprising Ravens arefavored on the road.
That is quite surprising.
So Vegas thinks something ofthat.
I do think the Bills too.
But this is I mean this is thefirst time we've seen the Ravens

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with Derrick Henry right, likeyou know, outside of this year.
You know he's had Odell, he'shad, you know he's had running
backs right, mark Ingram, thelist goes on and on and on and
on.
But Derrick Henry is adifferent.
He's a different animal thatguy is.
I would have been fine if theEagles got Derrick Henry over
Saquon, like that's how much Ido think of of Derek Henry

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always have.
If Josh, if Josh Allen doesn'twin this game, sean McDermott's
can't.
He has to be like I'm notsaying it's going to be
McDermott's fault, but I mean,if they don't win this game, I
think bills.
But this is like you said, Ithink this might even be the
last second field goal typedrive Like this is, like you

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know, think this might even be alast second field goal type
drive like this is, like youknow, 10 seconds left, eight
seconds left, they bang a 40something yarder to win it.
Um, didn't look at the weatherout there, but I mean both teams
can play in the in the elements, but hopefully it'll be some,
some chaos, right, some crazywind, some snow, like why not?
Buffalo is just the.
That's a place on its Like,that just has its own zip, like
it's just away from civilizationand people jumping off buses

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and breaking tables, probablybreaking their back in the
process, you know, but that'swhat they do out there.
They live for this type ofstuff.

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
So the only possible way that somebody doesn't tie
for first place is if I win.
If the Rams beat Philly, I win.
If the Rams lose to Philly andeverything else, it doesn't even
matter, Because if everythingelse is a win or a loss,
everybody else is the same.
Chiefs, Lions, Eagles.

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
I almost want to take Baltimore just for that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
See, that's why I took the Rams.
I was like screw it In the onegame that I think if the Eagles
came out flat or somethingstupid, like they did against
the Packers, I'm like the Ramscould take advantage.
The Rams could be a team totake advantage.
I really thought commanders Iwas like pondering commanders
over lions, cause I'm like thelions defense, the thing with
the lions defense that nobodythinks about and they're like

(01:55:05):
Aaron Glenn is this greatdefensive coordinator, which I
think he is.
I think he is, but the onething their pass defense sucks.
They suck in the secondary.
Jane daniels can light you up.
So what could happen there?
Jane daniels could light upthat secondary, which could make
it a high scoring, high flying.
Maybe dan camel makes a stupiddecision and I can see the

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commanders pulling up.
Like I think all these gamescould be very good games, like I
really do.
Like I think all these matchupscould be very close, just
because there's a lot ofvariables that play.
Like I said, commanders versuscommanders, versus a terrible
pass defense, rams versus apretty good defense in the
Eagles.
But they have a lot ofplaymakers on that.
I know they have a lot ofplaymakers on a defense for the
Eagles, but there's a lot ofplaymakers on that offense and

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the defense for the Rams hasstepped up.
I mean the Bills, ravens,chiefs, texans.
If Texans play defense, I meantheir defense looks like they
did last week or in a coupleother wins that they've had when
they played the Lions and theypicked off Jared Goff four or
five times.
I mean Patrick Mahomes throwspicks, you could see it.
So it's like all these gamescould be good games.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
What percent chance do you give the Rams?
Because that's the closestspread on paper.
That's the closest like I'd sayI'd say the, the bills and
ravens.

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
I would give like a if for me why I picked the bills
.
I'm like 51 and 49, like Ithink that game could go either
direction.
I, how do you, realisticallyyou, I don't do you factor
weather in, because the ravensplay in cold weather too.
Do you factor weather?
You can't like Ravens play incold weather too, do you factor?

Speaker 3 (01:56:36):
weather.
You can't.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
I know there's going to be a lot of snow, more in the
playoffs.
Maybe this is what I'm going tosay If there's a lot of snow,
who's?

Speaker 3 (01:56:46):
got the better run game Ravens Yep by far.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
By far.
I know Josh Allen can run and Iknow James Cook is good.
I know Josh Allen can run it.
I know James Cook is good.
I know he can.
He's not great but he's good.
James Cook can get you someyards.
But if you want to go run gameto run game, who's going to win
it?
Derrick Henry, like DerrickHenry and Lamar Jackson, you
can't beat it.
So it's like that's where Iwould draw.
The line is where could itbecome close?
I think the run game in Buffalo, because it's by snow, it might

(01:57:10):
be slippery, it might be aslick, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:57:13):
I'm seeing around.
I mean this is at night, Idon't know when they're
considering at?
No, not really so.
Between 20 and 10 degrees, soanywhere in between their chance
of snow, but no accumulation,so okay.
But Wendy, 15 to 25 mile perhour wins.
So okay, 25 mile per hour.

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
Winds, okay, something.
Yeah, it could affect it.
It could affect it there.
So we'll see.
I mean a lot of good gamescoming up this weekend here.
We got the NFL playoffs kickingoff.
We know the college footballplayoff coming up or the
championship coming up on Monday.
There, it's such a weird.
You know, what you should havedone is put it on Saturday.
You should have.
Yep, I've always put it onsaturday.
I know that the one seeds for,uh, for the nfl play that, put

(01:57:56):
like, put like one of the nflgames on it new and and then put
the other game on at like 3, 30and then give me the college
football playoff at seven.
Perfect, perfect, all thatbuild up for a college football
game.
Then, right, I monday is such aweird time, it's such a weird
time to think I'm gonna watchcollege football on a monday.
Right, it's so stupid, likeyou're not.

(01:58:17):
The nfl is sundays, collegefootball saturdays.

Speaker 3 (01:58:21):
Make it saturday, I don't care what you gotta do,
make it even if it was tonight,even if it was a friday night,
it's, you're seeing, monday,like I remember the national
championship when they had it in.

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
What was it in Arizona for basketball?
It started at like 8 o'clock atnight.
Here it's like the game's.
I mean it's 10 o'clock by thetime you guys hit the second
half.
I don't want to watch that, Idon't know.
It's just stupid to me there.
But, aaron, we're way over thehour 30 mark tonight here.
But we had a lot of good talk, alot of good Brewer talk there.
I mean just a devastating newsthat we got the other day there,

(01:58:55):
and I mean Brewer baseball.
I just don't, it's never goingto be the same.
It won't be the same.
But we persevere, we move on.
I know, jeff, I love Jefflevering.
I love Jeff levering on theradio.
I love Lane Grindle.
I know, know, they're gonna dotheir darndest to uh to put
together a good radio broadcastfor the brewer game.

(01:59:16):
So I mean we we wait and see onthat one there.
We wait and see on that one.
But again, I mean rest in peaceto the greatest broadcaster,
the icon, the greatest person inwisconsin sports, that's what I
gotta say.
The greatest person inwisconsin sports and maybe all
baseball, maybe all baseballthere, cause it just it sucks.
Yeah, it really does.
It sucks for the state ofWisconsin there, but we'll move

(01:59:37):
on, we'll get through it.
We have, we have the memories.
We have the memories, we havethe calls, we have everything in
between there of the great Bobthere.
So, aaron, I mean, that's aboutc.
We got the nfl playoffs.
We got it's a heck of a weekend.
It's a heck of a weekend sat orsunday.
We're going to come back here.
We're going to talk the briangutekens press conference,

(01:59:58):
because he did speak on a coupledays ago there.
I want to get to the briangutekens recap of the season.
Essentially they're talkingabout what he had to say to some
of the players and what hethinks coming forward there.
We got a a little bit more.
I mean, there's more to talkabout in that Matt LaFleur press
conference there so we mightget some more questions that he
answered.
And there we got lots to get toon Sunday.
Here we're going to recap thatgame Wisconsin and USC.

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We're going to look ahead toUCLA.
Holy crap, we got a lot to getto there on Sunday.
So with that, for Aaron andmyself, this this has been
Wisconsin Sports on the go withTrage.
Thank you all for tuning in.
We'll catch you guys back hereon Sunday, but until then see ya
.