October 15 Hour 1: Brewers and some Badgers

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A week this bumpy deserves straight talk. We open with the Brewers and a simple truth: you can’t win October games by abandoning the thing that got you here. For months, Milwaukee thrived on patience, pressure, and situational hitting. Then came LA’s aces, and the chase crept in. We break down how disciplined at-bats—not moonshots—flip a series, why veteran presence matters in the box, and how a single Freeman swing and a Betts walk show the blueprint the Brewers must copy. We also tackle the Bryce Turang HBP firestorm with a clear lens: it’s not about absorbing 85 to the shin, it’s about swinging at the next pitch out of the zone. The fix isn’t mystical. It’s approach.

We don’t duck the noise, either. The Cubs L-flag outrage? Say it out loud: rivalries need edge. Fans can fume; that’s fuel. What matters between the lines is identity. Can Milwaukee find it on the road? They were strong away all season, and a hostile park can sharpen focus. We map a realistic path to two wins in LA—work counts, create traffic, play small ball, and let your leaders lead. If Yelich and Contreras grind the early at-bats, the lineup breathes. If not, the sweep writes itself.

Then it’s Badger football—where frustration turned into something worse. We talk culture, accountability, and why the program’s “default setting” under stress looks empty right now. This isn’t about one game; it’s about what recruits and locker rooms see when the plan breaks. Finally, a quick Packers pulse: what the Bengals win told us, and how the Cardinals matchup sets up. Hit play for a candid, no-fluff look at Wisconsin sports: what’s real, what’s noise, and what must change now. If this episode fired you up, follow, share with a friend, and drop a rating—what’s your fix for Milwaukee’s offense?

Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (00:05):
This is Wisconsin Sports on the Go with Trade.
Your place for all thingsWisconsin Sports.
Now, your host, Trage.

SPEAKER_01 (00:18):
How are we doing, everybody?
And welcome in to WisconsinSports on the Go with Trade.
I'm your host, Trage, as we comeback here on this October 15th.
Here, I actually, for the firsttime, this is the first time,
I'm having uh having plumbingissues at my house.
So I get to shoot this thing dayof.
I usually don't get to shoot itday of because I'm usually at
work right now.
I got some plumbing issues rightnow.

(00:39):
As you guys know, I'm anelectrician.
I attempted plumbing.
It went disastrous.
That's all I'm gonna say on thematter right now.
So get a plumber coming to fixmy uh fix my messes.
I you know what?
After a while, it's just likeI'm done with this.
I I can maybe possibly, youknow, there's probably a 20%
chance I can figure this one outmyself.
And I just said, ah, I'm gonnacall, I'm gonna call a
professional.
I'm gonna call a professional tocome in and do it.

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So that's that's what'shappening today.
So I am uh shooting to on on theday of today here for the first
time.
So that's awesome.
That's awesome.
Do here where I get the uhreactions of day of, not day
before.
Things, you know, can happenovernight, stuff like that.
So it's sweet to you know beable to do a day of here today.
So we have lots to dive into.
Lots to dive into, not a lot ofgood.

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I'm gonna be honest with you.
There's not a lot of good.
Badger football.
Wow.
I didn't think they could getlower.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
I did not think the this badgerfootball team, this program
could drop lower.
I thought they hit rock bottom.
I didn't know there was a lowerthan rock bottom, but they found
it.
So we're gonna talk about that.
Sadly, Christian's not here yet.

(01:45):
He's just he's out in NorthDakota right now hunting ducks.
So he will not be here uh forthis one.
So he's gonna become back nextweek.
He I texted him, I'm like, well,you missed out on a good one
today.
We have lots to get into.
And he's like, there's nothing Iwant to talk about right now
with badger football.
And I don't think there's a lotof people that want to talk
about badger football.
We're gonna look at it a littlebit here today on the show.

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Bad brewer.
We're gonna talk brewers.
Bad, there's some bad.
There's some bad talk aboutbrewers, right?
We haven't talked since lastWednesday, so they did advance,
right, to the NLCS, but thestart of this NLCS has been very
lackluster.
So we're gonna talk about thattoday.
We got to get into the Brewers,look about our thoughts uh with
that Packer talk today.
Umr's gonna stop by.
We're gonna talk some Packers,got the win against the Bengals,

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look ahead to the Cardinals.
So we're gonna look at that.
We got some badger basketballtalk to get to.
Kyle's gonna stop by with someNFL talk.
We got a whole boatload ofthings to dive into today.
Some some good, but a lot of badthere.
So, right off the bat, right offthe bat.
This last week, weekend, I guessyou could say.
Okay, so to start, I to start,this is where my I'm gonna go

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with my frustrations off theweekend.
This is my frustrations in thesporting world coming off the
weekend.
Number one, I had, and this I Ithink a lot of people, I don't
know if this it confused me morethan well, both these things
actually confused me.
They kind of baffled me.
So after the Brewers beat theCubs, they posted a well, they

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they posted their pictures, youknow, whatever.
They did their pictures uh withthe team on the field.
And, you know, they had some oftheir flags from their countries
and stuff, and then uh thatsomebody in the crowd, so this
is this is what happened fromwhat as far as I heard.
Somebody in the crowd had an Lflag up in the crowd.
Jake Bowers ran over, he grabbedit, took it down, asked them if
he could use it.

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They're like, Yeah, you can useit.
He's like, Don't worry, I'llbring it right back.
Ran it down, handed it around tothe players.
Nobody wanted to hold it.
Well, then Trevor McGill, whowas cut by the Cubs, held it up,
held it up in the back of thepicture.
And Cub fans, baseball fans,lost their minds.
They lost their minds.

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I didn't really understand why,to be honest with you.
And it's still going on.
This this picture is still, youknow, after the Brewers lost
these first two games to theDodgers, the picture still
surface.
Like, oh, the curse of the Lflag, the curse of the L flag.
Should have never done it.
This is what you get for doingit.
Who cares?
Like, I if it's a curse of the Lflag, we need to cut that out,

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right?
We need to get rid of that next.
No more of that L flag crap.
If this is what happens when youdo it, like I'm I'm all in for
superstition and stuff, but Imean listening to the fans, and
then it even I thought it wasjust the fans at first that were
kind of upset about it.
Then the media took it.
And I was listening to someChicago shows, and they were

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complaining, saying, Oh, it wasclassless.
It was classless.
Grow up.
That's what I made a post onFacebook.
If you guys didn't read it, orif you maybe read it, if you
didn't, check it out there.
Wisconsin Sports on the Go withTrade on Facebook there.
I just said I'm like, basically,this is what baseball, this is
what sports need.
They need players to not likeeach other.

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We've become this, these leagueshave become, oh, well, we're all
friends with each other.
We really don't care if we winor lose.
It's not so bad when we losebecause our buddies are there.
It's all right, we'll move onwith life.
You know, when William Contreraswas talking about after they,
you know, lost that series tothe Mets last year, there was
guys who were smiling.
Oh, now I can go fishing kind ofthing.

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That that's the way that sportshave gone.
This isn't the like MichaelJordan, I hate everybody league
anymore.
This is a league now and everyfast of sports where guys just
there, there is no toughnessanymore.
It doesn't seem like to me, inmy opinion.
So to have this, have this sparkof fire.
I hope it does.
I really do.
I hope this sparks a fire.

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It causes some turmoil betweenPat Murphy and Craig Council.
It causes some problems betweenthat roster and this roster.
It ticks off that fan base evenmore.
It ticks off this, well, youknow, whatever.
I hope it does.
That's the juice you want insports.
That's the rivalry, a truerivalry.
I've said it for years.
I don't believe you look at theNBA, you know, they try to push

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uh like the Celtics and Lakers.
They're like, oh yeah, therivalry, renew it, renew it.
It's not there.
Nobody cares.
It's not a rivalry anymore.
There's nobody that absolutelyjust despises anybody else
anymore.
In the NFL, there might be someguys who are despised, and there
might be, you know, somedisliked players out there, but
I still don't think there's, youknow, team fans want to believe

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the rivalry's there.
The players don't.
And that's where I want, I I Itruthfully want sports to get
back to is rivalries, dislike,wanting to just go out there and
just trash them and just beatthem on the field, not in the
stands, because you want to callit classless.
Fine.
When the when the MilwaukeeBrewer fans and players went

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down to Chicago, you thinkeverything was just classy,
nice, sophisticated, goodconversations, no, no trouble,
anything like that.
I've heard so many stories aboutyou know Cup fans coming up here
and just completely runningtheir mouths and just being, you
know, absolute, just obnoxiouswhen they were down in
Milwaukee.
But oh, the Brewers hold an Lflag on the field, and my

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feelings are hurt.
My feelings are hurt.
I just I was baffled.
I really was.
And you know what?
If they want to use it asammunition now to say, oh, well,
it's you know, uh, it's bad luckthat you did it, and now this is
why you're losing.
This is what's causing us tocheer for the Dodgers in this
series.
Fine.
I don't, sure, great, I don'tcare.
Like the rest of America is forthe Brewers, Chicago and LA,

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they want the Dodgers.
That's kind of where it's atright now.
And then there's those randomfans out there.
You know, there's those randompeople that have nothing to do
with the Cubs or anything likethat that just get in on it and
they're like, oh yeah, that wasclassless.
They're like, you don't evenhave a like you don't even know,
like you're a Philly fan.
What do you want?
Like, you guys, you guys areclass, like, stop it, stop it.
So, I mean, it's just yeah, thatthat irritated me.

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So, anyway, I want to hear youguys' opinion.
What did you guys think aboutthe whole L flag thing?
I mean, were you did you find itto be classless or was it
whatever?
I mean, I found it as whatever,basically, but there is a lot of
people still blowing up about itacross social media, so I
figured I'd bring it up today.
Because I thought it'd get, youknow, Saturday, I was like,
okay, everybody's blowing upabout it.

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Sunday, I was like, okay, Ithought it would just be done.
No, it's still going on.
So it's it's like people stillcare this much that the brewers
did this.
Their feelings are still thishurt.
Why don't you care that yourteam just blew like lost the
series?
Why don't you care?
Why don't you care that yourroster is paid X amount of
dollars more than the roster upin Milwaukee?

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You pay you took the managerfrom the Milwaukee Brewers and
made him your manager tospecifically be able to go in
back and beat the MilwaukeeBrewers.
And you still can't do it.
Why don't you worry about that?
Why are you so worried about aflag on a field?
That's how low you are rightnow.
That is how low you're you'renitpicking now.
You're nitpicking, you'refrustrated, and you're trying to
find those little reasons to beupset at the world, and you

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found one.
That that is your thing rightnow.
Fine.
If that's what you want to beupset about, that's what you be
want to be upset about.
But then nothing's gonna getfixed.
That's for sure.
That's right.
And you're a fan, so you're notlike it's you're gonna you're
gonna fix it, but it you'reworried about the wrong things
right now if that L flags thething that you're worried about
in Chicago.
So that was happening over theweekend.
And then flash forward game oneof the NLCS.

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The Brewers, and we're gonna getinto it, but they have this this
is not Brewer Baseball.
I I can speak for everybodywatching this.
This is not what we've watchedfor 170, whatever games now.
I mean, this is what what wouldit be?
162?
They played five in the NLDS, so167.
They played 169 games orsomething like that.

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170.
If I did the math right, I don'tknow if they did the math right.
But, anyways, this is not brewerbaseball.
And we watched game one.
The Brewers put a late efforttogether.
Sasaki came in, Snell waspulled.
Snell pitched fantastic.
Sasaki came in, got the firstout.
Collins walked, worked a goodcount.

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Well, Collins walked, JakeBowers, pinch hits, big double.
That was huge.
Second and third, one out.
Jackson Cheerio's coming up.
And Jackson Cheerio swings firstpitch.
As he does, but Chase is in onthe hands.
And he took a pitch that was inon the hands and tried to shoot
it in right center.
Well, not a whole lot of popgoing into right center from in
on the hands.
You had to really get it.

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And he hit it in the air, sackfly.
There you go.
Two outs.
Contreras comes up.
Oh no, it should have beenYelitch then.
Yelich draws the walk, right?
Yelich draws the walk.
And then so yeah, it was YelitchDrew the Walk there.
Yelitch Drew the Walk, set it upfor Tarang.

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Right?
That's that's how it went downwith Yelitch Drew the Walk, set
it up for Tarang.
Tarang has not, and he'd be thefirst one to tell ya, has not
had the greatest of postseasonsin his mind, in anyone's mind,
he knows it.
Everybody knows it.
He has not had a greatpostseason.

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Oh yeah, Collins Collins came into score.
So so it was it was Yellichwalked.
Collins came in to score on thesack fly by Jackson Curio.
Bowers ended up at third.
And then uh Lockridge ended upat third.
Lockridge came in a pinch run,and then we saw Yelich walk, and
then we saw Contreras walk.
There you go.
So that set up Tarang.
Tarang was in the cleanup spot.

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So there you go.
That's the scenario that itplayed out.
Tarang has not had a goodpostseason.
He'll tell you that.
Everybody knows that.
We've all seen it.
Now there's a lot of reasonsbehind that.
We're gonna get into a lot ofreasons behind the Brewers.
Just a lot of these hittersstinking in the postseason right
now.
But Tarang comes up, and therewas a that pitch that win, it

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went right at his shins.
Shin kneecap area, right at thebottom of his legs.
And he dives out of the way.
Ball gets Smith ends up snaggingit, ball doesn't get by.
Tarang, next pitch, swings,swings at a pitch that's two
feet above the strike zone,strikes up.
Inning over, game over, brewerslose, two to one.

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They come back, fall short.
And I thought, okay, I'm gonnago on to Twitter.
Because I, you know, I've beenavoiding Twitter during the
games because you know it's beenabsolutely terrible to watch.
I don't want to read people, youknow, completely blow up, except
for Grant Bills.
He's had some funny ones on uhTwitter as of late.
But anyways, I go on to Twitterand every single reaction that

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I'm seeing, and there's articlesout there saying that if the
Brewers fail to win this series,Bryce Tarang jumping out of the
way of that ball in game onewill haunt them forever.
He will be the reason theyfailed.
There was an article, I saw anarticle that said that.
He was basically the reason whyif they if they lost it, that

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they he would be the failure.
His failure to stand there andget hit.
I don't know.
I I am I honestly kind ofbaffled by this one.
It baffled me, it really did.
When you see a ball or anobject, I guess, coming at you

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at 80 plus miles per hour.
It was a sweeper, it was comingin.
According to the ESPN, it was uh85 miles per hour.
So you have a sweeper coming atyou at 85 miles per hour.
Your initial reaction when it'scoming at your shin or knee is

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to just let it hit you?
Not even attempt to get out ofthe way, just let it hit you.
Like, I I don't understand, andmaybe I'm crazy to think this,
but the natural reaction of aperson would be to get out of
the way.
So Bryce Tarang even says, Ohyeah, looking back on it, I wish
I would have stood there andtook it.

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Sure, sure.
I don't know.
I feel like if you took 85 tothe shin, I feel like that would
hurt.
I don't know if it breaksanything, but I feel like it's
gonna hurt a lot of bit.
So I feel like most people aregonna get out of the way.
I have no, and this might bejust me, and I want to hear your
guys' opinion on that one too.
715-990-4914.

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That is 715-990-4914.
Let me know your thoughts onthis.
I don't know about you, but Idon't, I am not upset that Bryce
Turan got out of the way of thatball.
I'm not.
Not at all.
No.
Because honestly, the way thatthe trajectory of the ball going
down, sweeper, it's a sweeper.
It's coming through the zone,going out, going towards him.
If it just travels a little bitfurther away from Will Smith,

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the ball gets back to thebackstop.
Ends up with Lockridge scoring,and he doesn't have to get hit
by a pitch in the shin.
But he moves out of the way,takes it.
Now we're looking at a 2-2count.
And the next pitch was ballthree by a mile.
If it was called strike, I PatMurphy should have been tossed

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out.
The game was over, but he shouldhave been tossed up for the next
game after that.
This pitch was a good foot ortwo above the zone, and he took
a hack.
He was jumping and he took ahack.
You want to be upset at BryceTarang?
Be upset that he took a hack atthat pitch.
Not that he jumped out of theway of a ball coming at his
shins.
Because nobody, and I meannobody, all of us couch watchers

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and coaches and what are they,couch coaches, they call them,
or whatever.
Nobody that's over there behindthe keyboard, typing, typing,
typing, is gonna stay on thereand take, oh yeah, just take one
for the team.
Yeah, take one for the team.
In hindsight, sure, take one forthe team.
When it's coming at your back ormaybe your thigh, a little bit
easier to just say, take one forthe team.

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When it's coming at your leg,ankle area, anything below the
knee, kneecap, and below, it's alittle bit of a different story
down there.
Oh yeah, like here, here's ahype.
What if it was going at hishead?
Would you have just said, oh,just turn your head, take it.
Just take it, take it off thehead, Bryce.
You'd been fine.
You'd been fine.
Is that where we are as Brewerfans?

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As fans?
Is that word pointing a fingerand saying that's the reason why
they lost that game?
If that's why you think theylost that game, go re-watch the
game.
Go watch innings one througheight and tell me that that was
the reason why they lost.
You want to know what?
You can put it just on JacksonChurio too.
You want to blame things in thisgame?
Blame it on Jackson Churio inthere too.

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After Bowers doubled to set up asecond and third with one out,
Jackson Curio swung at the firstpitch and popped out.
Gave the Dodgers hope that theycould get out of that inning
without without having to dealwith extra pressure.
You want to blame anybody?
You can blame him too.
You can blame Christian Yelitzfor not doing anything.
You can blame William Petrarisfor not doing anything in this

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game.
But you want to go and blameBryce Durang for that situation.
That spot.
Whatever.
Whatever.
If that's where you are as aBrewer fan right now, as a fan
of this, you're just, you're,you're, you're no better than
the Gub fans complaining aboutan L-Flag right now.
You're just looking for reasonsto complain.
But you're not even looking.

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You're not even looking.
You're just zeroing in on onespot because that was the final
out.
You didn't look further into thegame, what led up to that.
All you did was looked at thatfinal out and said, Yep, that's
why they lost.
Sure.
If that's what you want tobelieve, that's what you want to
believe.
But my thing, my opinion on itis if you if that's where you're

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at, you need to look furtherback into that game and say that
Bryce Tarangit bat could nothave been the final because he
dove out of the way of a pitchcoming at his shins, cannot be
the difference between a win anda loss.
It can't be.
That can't be the win.
That can't be the difference.
It can't be.
So yeah, that's where I'm atwith that.
Oh man, fired up.
Fired up here.
Fired up on this Wednesday.

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We have a whole lot to get into.
The Brewers are just beginningto fire us up.
We got brewer talk to get to.
We're gonna go to the Brewersnext.
We got badger football later onto talk about.
We got Packers.
We got Badger basketball.
All kinds of stuff to dive intotonight here on the show.
Make sure you're coming back.
Wisconsin Sports on the Go withTrage.
Hour number one of two is justgetting rolling.
We'll be back here after thisWisconsin.
Wisconsin Sports on the Go withTrage.
I'm your host, Trage, as we comeback here on this Wednesday.

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So we went to the break.
Top of the show.
I was kind of just the thingsthat irritated me off the
weekend.
And you know what?
I want to hear your guys'opinion on anything that we come
up with tonight here on theshow.
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(19:15):
That is 715-990-4914.
I'd love to hear you guys'thoughts on the Bryce Tarang
thing, him dodging that pitch ingame one.
I want to hear your thoughts onthe L flag from the Cubs series
because that's still a big topicgoing around right now.
It's still a lot of peopletalking about it across social
media.
So I want to, you know, justhear your thoughts on that.
And I want to hear your thoughtson anything happening, Packers,
Badgers, Brewers, anything likethat.

(19:36):
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That would be awesome.
So, brewer talk.
Let's get into it.
This series.
The way that I want to see itbecause it's gonna make me feel

(19:57):
better.
The way that I want to see it isthis series is starting out like
the brewer season started out.
The way that this year startedfor the Milwaukee Brewers, the
series that was against theYankees, it was like all hope
was lost.
There's no functionality of thisteam.
This team seems to have noidentity, they they don't know

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what they want to do yet.
The pitching's suspect at times,the hitting's even worse.
They they're giving up bombsleft and right.
It just is a problem.
And then got to, you know, wentthrough that first little third
of the season or whatever, foundtheir stride, started rolling.
Now you don't have you know athird of a season to figure this
one out here.
You know, you have five gamesleft, hypothetically, to get

(20:43):
back in the series and win theseries if you're gonna do it and
advance the world series for thefirst time in ever, right?
Not ever since 1982, but I thinkit's been what 43 years since
the last time they went to theWorld Series.
I think if I did the math rightthere, whatever it is.
So I mean, it just been a hotminute.
It's been a hot minute for thisMilwaukee Brewers team.
And to get back there, the pathto get back there, it seems

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like, okay, what do they have todo?
We could sit here and we couldcomplain about the first stretch
of the series, and there's a lotof things to look at.
A lot of things to look at.
The guy I start with, and I'vehad this conversation with
everybody, and I know this isgoing to be a broken record
because it seems like we talkabout this every year when it
comes to postseason time.

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Christian Yelich.
I don't know if it's it's whenhe got naked on that magazine
cover or what, but ever sincethen, and no, it's I think it's
was that before or after hebroke his kneecap?
I have no idea.
But ever since then, ever since2018, he hasn't had an RBI in
the postseason.
That's crazy.
And he hasn't had a hit in thepostseason since game three of

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the NLDS when he let off thegame with a double.
That's a bad, that's that's youlook at that number and you say,
okay, I see so many people.
Don't miss, don't forget that hehad a good year before this,
right?
Don't forget that he he got backto form in the regular season.
So now it's like, oh, well, youknow, don't just give him crap

(22:08):
just because you can, becausehe's down right now.
This is when we need him.
I get if it's not hits, right?
I I get if it's not hits, andthat's what I've told everybody.
You know, I've I've mentionedthis to a lot of people.
I get if it's not hits, right?
Maybe the ball's just notfalling.
I understand that.
He's not putting productive atbats together.

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They're not even competitive.
He goes up there, he watches astrike down the middle, and then
swings that two in the dirt, andhe's done.
That's a legit at bat fromChristian Yelits right now is
him walking up to the plate andwalking back to the dugout
within three to four pitches.
Good morning, good afternoon,good night.

(22:51):
See you later.
Blake Snell was dealing.
Yamamoto had a great game.
But when your guy, the guy whoand I'm not, I don't want to get
into this big old contract thingor anything like that, but the
guy who makes your money, thebig guy, right?
You signed him up, you wantedhim here long term, he was the
he's the face of the franchise.

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You need superstars when you getinto the postseason.
You need your stars to be attheir brightest right then.
You don't have that right now.
You want to talk about what'sgoing on in games one and two of
the postseason, or of this NLCS,should I say?
Sorry.
Of this NLCS.

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Freddie Freeman hit a solo shotoff of Chad Patrick.
And everybody, I I don't evenunderstand sometimes.
I I watch, I don't evenunderstand the complaints from
some people.
Chad Patrick has been nothingbut fantastic in the postseason,
and I know he's been used adecent amount, so I'm not gonna

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say, like, because I've had thisproblem all season long with the
overusage of pitchers.
I'm not gonna say Chad Patrickhasn't been used a lot and maybe
overused, but you had ChadPatrick come in, give up a home
run to Freddie Freeman.
Then, I mean, he pitched, hepitched fine after that.
Like he was, he was, it was notlike it was terrible.
The Freddie Freeman home runshould not have been the

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difference in this game, but itwas.
But it was a star doingsomething in the postseason.
Nothing was going right.
The Brewers pitching was going.
I mean, they were giving uphits, they were giving up base
runners, but they were workingtheir way out of uh inning,
working their way out of badsituations.
And Freddie Freeman walked inand he hit a moonshot to write.
A big moment, having a moment inthe postseason.

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You need your star, you need abona fide star to have a moment.
And the Brewers haven't hadthat.
And we could sit here and we cansay, oh, Bryce Tarang's supposed
to be the guy to have thatmoment.
Or Sal Freelick, have thatmoment, Sal.
Caleb Durbin, have that moment.
Yes, in hindsight, yes.

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They Bryce Tarang had a greatregular season.
You would think that he shouldbe able to find in the
postseason.
Right.
Same with Sal.
These guys haven't been herebefore.
The Dodgers are showing you inthis series because when I watch
this series right now, I'm notsaying that the Dodgers are
winning this series becausethey're better than the
Milwaukee Brewers.

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They have, I think they havemore stars, sure.
Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman,Shoei Otani, Suzaki is a
worldwide star right now.
Um, Max Mur uh Max Max Muncie isa well-known guy.
Uh, you can go around TiaskaHernandez was in the uh home run
derby last year.
The bullpen is terrible, but thestarting pitching staff, you
have Blake Snell, you have TylerGlass now, Shohei's back in

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there now, you have Yamamoto.
There's a lot of stars on thatteam.
But I still don't believe when Iwatch this thing, and you might
call me crazy.
I don't believe that the Dodgersare really beating the Brewers
right now because they're thatmuch better.
I believe they're beating theBrewers because the Brewers are
beating themselves.

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They get into these games likethis, where the Brewers they
found ways all season long, havefound ways to win games, win
games like this, the two to oneloss they had, found get ways to
come back in games like they hadin game two.
They have gone away fromeverything.
And when I look at whatChristian Yelich has been doing

(26:21):
for this Brewers team in thispostseason, and postseason past,
but in this postseason, he'sgotta be a guy where you can
throw him in there.
And I don't care if he's mystar.
I need him to give me acompetitive at-bat.
Go up there and give me anat-bat to work a count.
You know, nine or eight, nine,ten pitches.

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Work a guy.
Give Blake Snell some trouble.
Let, you know, if Bryce Turang'sbatting behind you or Contreras,
let him see every pitch thathe's got in his arsenal.
Work him, work him a little bit.
Make him throw you a mistake.
But you're chasing.
And that's the problem with thiswhole lineup right now for the
Milwaukee Brewers.
They're chasing pitches.
That's all this team had one ofthe lowest chase rates all

(27:04):
season long.
And they get into this seriesand they're chasing everything.
The approach isn't there.
So, yes, when I say that I don'tbelieve that this Dodgers team
is that much better.
Do I think they have more stars?
You're dang right I do.
Do I think they have more power?
You're dang right I do.
But don't go me wrong, I don'tbelieve that this Brewers team

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can't beat the Dodgers.
They did it six times in theregular season.
Now it's regular season versuspostseason.
It's different, right?
It's all different.
Sure.
Sure.
But the Dodgers were chasing,trying to, you know, lock up a
one seed.
Get away.
Not well, at that point, theBrewers were stretching it out a
little bit.
But the Dodgers were trying toplay for a division win.

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They were trying to still winthat division over the Padres
and everybody else who was stillin contention at that point
there, when the Brewers ended upplaying them.
I believe it was in between theall-star break there.
This Brewers team can beat thisDodgers team.
But you need your stars to beyour stars.
And I'm not, I don't want togive a hall pass to guys like

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Bryce Tarang or WilliamContreras, guys like that.
I don't.
Jackson Cherry, I don't want togive hall passes to them.
They all look lost at the plate.
But Christian Yellich is myleader of my baseball team.
He's the leader.
That's how we've seen him.
That's how he's spoken about.
That's we talked, they talk tohim after every single game.
He is the leader of this team.

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The leader of the clubhouse, thelocker room, whatever you want,
you know, the clubhouse downthere.
He's the leader.
And for him to have theperformances that he's doing
with the lackluster plateappearances, that's where we're
at.
Tarang will go up there andbattle a little bit.
He'll go five, six pitches.
Now is he coming away with hits?

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No, not at all.
He came away with one last uhlast night.
Tonight, last night, last night,Tuesday night.
Oh, the games are all goingtogether at this point.
Contreras, I think there's guysup there right now, in my
opinion, who are being overlyaggressive.
They're trying to get it allback.
They're not playing Brewerbaseball.
They are so far away fromplaying the baseball that got

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them to this point.
That is another problem thatwe're having, that we're seeing
right now with this team.
They are getting away fromplaying Brewer baseball.
Small ball.
Putting the ball in play.
Trying to making the defensemake the mistakes.
The little things, floatingballs out there.

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These guys are going up there,and Contreras is trying to make
he's trying to put it out in theparking lot every single at bat.
Would it be awesome?
Yes.
But you gotta wait for thosemoments.
You play for those moments.
You gotta bat in situations.
Situational hitting has beengreat for the Brewers this year.
Because, as I believe it wasBlake Perkins said after game

(29:58):
one of the NLDS, he He said thisteam is so good at knowing what
they got to do, what we have todo in situations.
Whether it's a guy like youknow, Sal or Tarang, they love
if a guy works a long count infront of them, like say Blake
Perkins worked a 12 pitch atbat, and then Sal came up, Sal
would look first pitch to swing.

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Why?
He expects them to make amistake because they're
overtaxed after that last atbat.
They're just trying to get backinto the zone.
Maybe they walked that guy, theyjust want to get back into the
zone.
They're gonna attack that firstpitch.
They've seen guys, you know, getout all game long, chasing
pitches.
What do they go up there and do?
They make you throw a strike.
But this Brewers team,especially in this series here,

(30:39):
that is the exact opposite ofwhat's happening.
For some reason, they're tryingto become this power-hitting
team.
And I don't know if it's becausethe national narrative has said
it or what it is, but this teamhas tried to steer into a
different path of the way theywant to play and the way that
they want to try to win baseballgames.
And it ain't gonna, it's notgonna happen like that.

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It's not.
If this team wants to get backinto this series, if they want
to get, we're gonna talk aboutthis in a minute here, but if
they want to get back into thisseries, they have to find a way
to just play Brewer baseballagain.
The bats aren't feeling it.
It's gonna be hard to go on theroad and win a game, win
multiple games, because now youhave to win not just either game

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three or four, you have to wingame five, too.
You're down two nothing.
You have three games in LA.
I find it silly that you have toplay three games in LA in a row.
I would think you'd go two, two,one-one, one.
That's what I would do.
I would go two in Milwaukee, twoin LA, come back to Milwaukee
for game five, go back out therefor game six, come back uh to
Milwaukee for game seven ifneeded.

(31:43):
That's where I would go with it.
I don't know why.
I don't know if did this changeor I've I've talked to a couple
different people about it, and Idon't know if anybody has the uh
like why they do it that way.
That's the way I would do itbecause I mean, now backs
against the wall, you have to goplay three games in LA and then
come back home.
Maybe it helps them.
I don't know.
But right now, where this teamis at, you need guys, and that's

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why I'm so I I don't want toseem like, oh, I'm just this
Christian Yelich hater becausethat's you know the narrative
that they like to push across onpeople who say things like this.
I don't want to make it seemlike I'm this big old Christian
Yelich hater.
But at this very moment, I needChristian Yelich to be Christian
Yelich.
I need him to go up there andslap me an opposite field head
and get a rally going every oncein a while.
Make Blake Snell pitch out ofthe stretch, make Yamamoto pitch

(32:26):
out of the stretch.
Blake Snell pitched out of thestretch for five pitches in game
one.
You want to talk about letting apitcher get comfortable?
I know he's good.
I know he's great.
He can be fantastic.
He can pitch like a Cy Young.
He's been like that since hislast like five starts now.
He's been fantastic.
I'm not saying he can't.
But this Brewers team needs tofind ways to force these

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pitchers into what they've beendoing all season, forcing
pitchers and opposing teams intouncomfortable situations and try
and capitalize on that.
And the one thing, the biggestthing they haven't been able to
do in this series is do that.
And I look at guys like Yellich,like Contreras, like a guy, I
don't even want to say likeAndrew Vaughn, I don't even know

(33:09):
if you can like Andrew Vaughnhasn't been terrible.
But all these guys, I mean, youcould you could blame them all.
You could go and blame them all.
But when I talk about myleaders, my guys who are
supposed to be the leaders in myclubhouse, I need those guys to
set the tone.
Because they're the stars.
They're the stars for a reason.
You keep them around long termfor a reason.

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Because when postseason baseballrolls around, I can't run.
You want your rookies to havemoments.
They're gonna have moments ofgood, great stuff happening for
them.
But like I said, a FreddieFreeman home run.
A friend Freddie Freeman's beendoing it for how many years now?
And he's killed Brewers for howmany years now.
But Freddie, a Freddie Freemanhome run in that in that uh
sixth inning there, the top ofthe sixth.

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That set the tone.
And then you saw Mookie Bettshave a fantastic at-bat and draw
walk against Abni Aribe, drawinganother run.
It's not just about hits, too.
It's about having good at bats.
Like Mookie Betts did there todraw in or to bring in that run
that ultimately was the decidingfactor in that entire game.

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But that's veterans doingveteran things.
And I think right now, thebiggest thing with the Brewers,
they do not have that.
They don't have veterans beinggood in this moment.
You need your guys to step upand be great, to show moments,
flashes of greatness.
And Freddie, I mean, Freddiedidn't pitch terrible.

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He didn't pitch terrible at all.
I don't think he was the leadingcatalyst of why they lost in
game two.
And you look at game one, Idon't I I'm near eBay walked a
guy, sure.
Walked in a run.
He can't have that.
Hindsight being 2020, yeah.
That was the end of the world.
It also would have changed whatthe bottom of the ninth might
have looked like.

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But I I'm looking at this teamright now and I'm saying to
myself, I need my vets to go outthere and deliver.
That's where I'm at right nowwith this team.
I know there's a lot of otherthings that need to happen.
I know you can't just say, oh,well, you could put it all on
the back of him.
I know that.
I'm not saying to, but I'msaying when I'm watching his
at-bats right now, he's not evengiving me competitive at bats.

(35:24):
So if he's supposed to be theleader, when he's doing that,
when he's throwing together atbats like that, man, you don't
feel good as the rest of yourteam.
You don't your rest of your teamdoesn't feel good watching that.
So yeah, that's kind of whereI'm at right now.
That's kind of where I'm atwatching, watching what I'm
seeing right now.
So we're gonna dive, we're gonnakeep with the brewers.
Coming back from the break here.
We're gonna keep with thebrewers.
We're gonna touch into badge offootball a little bit.

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I mentioned, I mentionedChristian Yelich and it gets on
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(37:31):
Yelich.
I get that.
It touches a nerve with a lot ofpeople.
But in a series like this, youneed your guys, your superstars,
your stars to be at their best,to be something competitive in
this series.
And I am just so sick of thelooking like I'm sad and moping,
don't really care, no fire.
There's just, it doesn't seemlike there's a lot there.

(37:52):
And it's just irritating me atthis point.
So that's why I hold him reallyaccountable because he is a
leader in that clubhouse.
And to see him walk to the walkfrom, he's a DH, so he doesn't
really do anything all game longexcept for hits.
So he walks from the dugout,walks up, takes three pitches,
strikes out, walks back over thedugout.
Wouldn't you be upset if thatwas your guy?
Right?
Because all these players, allthese guys on this team, that's

(38:13):
their leader.
That's the guy who's been therebefore, right?
You look back, who is the theonly three guys who were on this
roster when the Brewers lastwent to the NLCS?
Brandon Woodruff, FreddiePeralta, Christian Yelitsch.
That was it.
Everybody else is gone.
Pat Murphy, he's there, right?
Ricky Weeks has been to theNLCS.
Outside of that, yeah, you havecoaches.

(38:34):
Nobody else has been there.
They don't understand what ittakes.
They need to lead by example,right?
Lead by example.
Yeah, lead by example, right?
That's that's the thing.
Lead by example.
Go up there, work counts.
I I just don't I don't see itright now with him.
And that's my problem.
And I I don't that doesn't meanI don't have problems with like
guys like William Contreras orwhat they're bringing to the

(38:56):
table right now.
I just I watch this and it'slike, man, man, I I can see the
stars from the Dodgers.
They're able to kind of rattle,change perspective, force you to
pitch to other guys.
Right now, they can almost throwwhatever they want to Contreras

(39:17):
because Yelich after him is ifhe gets on, okay.
We're not really uh mightilyconcerned at this very moment.
You hope he gets hot.
And I'm not saying I don't hopehe doesn't get hot.
I'm not saying we should, youknow, trade this guy in the
offseason or you know, kick himout, whatever.
I'm not saying any of that.
But at some point, if you wantto succeed as a franchise, your

(39:37):
franchise guy needs to be yourfranchise guy when it comes to
the postseason.
Have a moment.
And he has not had that momentyet.
So that's where I'm kind of atwith that whole situation.
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So we'd love to get yourcomments in on all that kind of
stuff.
So let's stick with the brewershere.
Getting out of Ampham.
So let's just as hard as it'sgonna be.
Let's flush.
Let's flush what we just watchedin these last two games.
It's gonna be super hard to do.
Let's flush it.
Let's move to LA.

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Why?
And this is a question that Iwas asked by one of my buddies.
But I was asked this question,and I thought about it for a
second.
He said, Is getting away fromAmerican Family Field could it
actually benefit the Brewers?
And I said, Man, getting awayfrom American Family Field?
Do I do I really believe thatthe Brewers going on the road to

(41:04):
LA, away from the fans, awayfrom Milwaukee?
Do I really believe that that iswhat the Brewers need to get
back off of this slide thatthey've been having?
They're 45 and 36 on the roadthis season.
And I know that's regular seasonbaseball versus postseason
baseball, but they're 45 and 36away from home.

(41:26):
That's a pretty good record.
That's almost 10 games above500, 9 games above 500 going
into this uh game against theDodgers here in game three.
Sometimes, and this is just metalking, sometimes when you get
a little amped up, you get alittle excited, right?
The crowd's jacked.

(41:47):
We saw that in that series therefor the Brewers.
They were jacked.
When the crowd's jacked, andyou're in a series against a a
tough team, sometimes you getout of your norm, which is what
we were talking about earlierwith the Brewers.
They got out of their norm.
They were they they aren'tplaying Brewer baseball.

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Maybe, and this is might becrazy to think, you go on the
road, you go to LA, you don't,you don't exactly have the crowd
behind you anymore.
There's gonna be a lot more LAfans, but it puts a different
kind of twist on it, right?
The mental game is different.
When you went to Wrigley, therewas a lot of a lot of talk,

(42:31):
there was a lot of, you know,the hostility of the
environment, the situation.
You've seen these guys before.
You can kind of understand it.
This Brewers Dodgers, there'snot much of a I don't want to
say there's not a like just Idon't think there's like a
rivalry there.
So it's not as it's not ashostile of an environment to
walk into, should I say?
It's still gonna be loud, likeLA is still gonna be pumped to

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have the Dodgers back home witha chance to win game three, get
Shoei Altani on the mound forgame four and advance to the
World Series.
They're still gonna be pumped.
But maybe it does benefit theBrewers getting away from the
noise.
Maybe, maybe they settle down onthe road.
They've been a good road teamthis year.
It's not saying that they'regonna go on the road and just
start dropping bombs and they'rejust gonna be this the great

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team out there, but they went toLA.
They won three games out therethis year.
Who says they can't?
Right?
Who says they can't?
So the question that I wasasked, I mean, basically, why is
getting away from AmericanFamily Field could that help
this team?
It could.
It could also do nothing and itcould just lead to even worse
outcomes, right?
The Dodgers having the homecrowd behind them, getting

(43:36):
pumped up, using that crowdenergy.
I thought, you know, a lot ofpeople are yelling about the
crowds in game two.
For the Brewers, they're kind ofout of it.
Well, it's kind of the way thatsome crowds go is that when the
team is stinking, there's notmuch to cheer about, they kind

(43:57):
of get out of it.
They're not in the same cheerymood, should I say?
So, I mean, I can I canunderstand where some fans would
have been like, a little upset,a little upset with what they
saw in the crowds from AmericanFamily Field.
But you know you're gonna gointo a hostile environment in
LA, it's gonna be pumped up,they're gonna be loud.
But could it help them gettingaway from home?

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I don't know if it's going tothe butt maybe, maybe just
getting away from the noise,getting away from all that.
Maybe it helps them.
I I don't know.
I don't know.
At this point, what's it gonnahurt, right?
What's it gonna hurt?
They played terrible at home.
What's it gonna hurt to go onthe road and play?
I was asked, so that was onequestion that I was asked.
I was asked another question.

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Is it possible for this team togo on the road and win two games
in LA?
Force this series back toMilwaukee?
The way the bats have been goingas of late here, the way that
everything's been trending.
Is it possible for this team togo on the road to LA and get two
wins?

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Yeah, it is.
I'm gonna say that with theutmost confidence.
It is.
Why I say that is because of theway that they've played the game
of baseball all season long.
On that flight out to LA, Ihope, I hope, that somebody told
Christian Yelich that he's gonnahe's gotta pull it out and
figure out how to play the gameof baseball again.

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Have some competitive at bats,be a leader, get up there and do
something for me.
I hope somebody said that atstart.
But I hope that they said tothemselves, and I hope that the
guys stood up, players, PatMurphy, whatever, stood up and
said, guys, we aren't playingbrewer baseball anymore.
We have to get back to doingwhat got us here.

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If they did that, if they getback to doing that, putting the
ball in play, not trying to dotoo much, not being overly
aggressive, laying off theseterrible pitches, stop with the
chasing, just get up there andwork counts, be situational,
work counts, lay some buntsdown, do those little things.
If they do those things, I Ifoolheartedly believe that this

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team can win it.
They're gonna win a game.
I if they play that way, theywill win a game out there in LA.
I don't know if it you canrattle.
See, the Otani thing, and I knowOtani is a great player, and
he's uh he's uh exciting player,right?
But Otani can he's hittable.
He's they show they've showed itbefore.
Guys, teams have showed it.

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Otani is hittable and he can getrattled.
Tyler Glass now can get rattled.
These guys aren't unhittable,but you need guys to set the
table, you need guys to get upthere and put together good at
bats, don't chase, make themmake a mistake, right?
They would capitalize onmistakes, they would make you
make a mistake, they would workcounts until you made that

(46:50):
mistake.
That was what was so good aboutthis Milwaukee Brewer team and
what they've gotten away from.
If you can go out to LA, if yougo out there and you start
working counts, you startbattling up there, you find
those little ways, you'll befine.
I a hundred percent believethat.
You will be fine.

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You will win a game, maybe two.
You can get this series back toMilwaukee.
If you go out there and youcontinue this trend that we've
been seeing, what we've beenseeing here, you're hosed.
You're host.
You will you will you will getswept.
If they continue trying to theapproach that they have right
now and trying to play thisbrand of baseball that they are
right now, they will get theywill get swept.
It'll be over in LA.

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And this magical run that theBrewers have had, and it's been
a magical run, and it's beengreat.
No matter how it ends, this hasbeen a fantastic season, and I
don't want to look back at thisand say that anything else, then
it's been a magical, great run.
It'll be over quick.
They need to go out there andplay Brewer baseball, and that's
the way they get to play smallmarket baseball.

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Not this big brand, play smallmarket baseball.
You'll be just fine.
So that's where I kind of thinkthat's where I see it right now.
I think they're gonna respond.
I do, I think they'll respond.
I really hope so.
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Like I said before, though, thisteam, they've done this all
year.
They've battled adversity,they've battled injuries,
they've battled all kinds ofstuff.
The noise, everything, battledback from that embarrassing
first series that they've had.
They've faced it all.

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But now, now it's time to showif if small market baseball can
do it.
If the city if a team like this,full of a bunch of, as he calls
them, the average Joes, and Iunderstand the whole narrative,
but everybody says, well,they're not so average of Joes,
right?
They've they've won how manygames, right?

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Yeah, I get that.
But at the same time, I mean,they're still, I mean, look at
the payrolls.
They have$122 million stuck intothis payroll.
They're fourth in the uh in theentirety of it.
They're like$40 million behindthe Blue Jays for third in
payroll.
So we're gonna find out.
We're gonna find out here in LAwhat this team's made of if they

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got it.
And I I think they do.
I think they can, I think theycan pull off some games here,
but get back to playing brewerbaseball.
That's the way to do it.
So we're gonna come back fromthe break here.
We're gonna wrap up hour numberone, we're gonna look ahead to
hour number two here on theshow.
We'll be back here after thisquick time to go with Trage.
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So we went to the break.
We were talking brewers.
I want to get this.
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We're going to talk a littlebadger football right now

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because most of the questionsthat I got were after the Badger
game.
And just what they saw.
And I'm kind of gonna wrap thesequestions all into one.
And if you want to be involvedin the fan zone, if you have
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So this basically was aunanimous question here.

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Came in from everybody.
How does this team go fromplaying a decent game against
Michigan to getting trounced byIowa at home 37 to nothing?
How does can is there a way backfrom this?
And then Christian messaged meand he said, I can't believe

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that Fickle's even there yet.
Franklin got fired.
How is Fickle even maintaining ajob in Madison right now?
And everybody's basically comingto the same stuff here right
now.
And that's why I want to answerthat question as a whole.
Can it get worse than what we'reseeing right now?
No, I didn't think so.
I honestly didn't think it couldget worse than losing to

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Maryland 27 to 10 at home.
I didn't think it could getworse than that.
You lost 37 to nothing to Iowaat home.
After basically Daryl Petersonsaid that they can't score 40,
and they've scored 40 multipletimes and then almost put up 40
on you in your place.
And then you had an entireoffseason where Luke Fickle was

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so upset over how you playedlast year in Kinneck that he
basically put the entireoffseason into doing like 42
push-ups and four of this andtwo of this, just to try and
just instill in their minds toremember that they lost that
game 42 to 10 and how bad itlooked.
And then you get embarrassedlike this.

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Embarrassed.
This is embarrassing.
I don't know.
I don't know what else to say atthis point.
I don't care what the buyoutlooks like, and I don't have to
pay it.
I understand that.
But at this very moment, if I'mthe Wisconsin Badgers, I don't
care if I set myself backmoney-wise for recruiting for
years.
You're setting yourself backyears right now by keeping Luke

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Fickle as a as the head coach ofthis football team.
That's plain and simple.
You're losing recruits.
He's recruiting fine.
Like everybody's like, oh, theycan't get the recruits that
everybody else does.
He's getting decent recruits.
You're telling me that theserecruits that he's getting, or
that Madison can't out-recruitMaryland, Iowa, Minnesota,

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Nebraska.
If Wisconsin is at that point,they're worse than UCLA now.
They're worse than Purdue.
Right now, Wisconsin is theworst team in the Big Ten.
I don't think I'd I I did notthink I'd ever say that.

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They are the worst team in theBig Ten.
Can it get worse?
I hope not.
Because I don't know how it getsworse.
This team is in this here.
I am a diehard Badger fan and Iwill watch every game.
I forgot what time they playedon Saturday.
The Brewers were coming on, so Iwas, you know, worried about the

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Brewers.
I forgot.
We were at Texas Roadhouse withuh my wife's family.
Great time, Texas Roadhouse anduh for her dad's birthday, and
they asked me what time theBadgers play.
I said, I think six.
That's where we're at as aprogram, as a care.

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That's where we're at right now.
And I know the Brewers are inthe in the postseason, so
everybody cares about that alittle bit more right now.
I mean, the Packer football'seven taking a back seat to me
for me at times.
But man, man, oh man.
That that's where this program'sat.
So can it get worse?
Basically, wrapping all thosequestions into one.
Can it get worse?
I hope not.
I really hope not.
So we're gonna come back fromthe break.
Hour number two, we're gonnaroll into it here.

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We're gonna have Umber stoppingby.
We're gonna talk Packers.
We got a little more.
I don't know if we're gonna getto more brewer talk later in the
show here, if we're gonna talkbadgers here, but we got that
coming up.
Kyle's coming up in hour numbertwo here.
So we got lots to come in hournumber two.
Make sure you're coming back.
Hour number two, starting upafter this quick commercial
break.
We'll be right back here.