October 22 Hour 2: Packers and Bucks Season Preview

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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Welcome back into Wisconsin Sports on the Go with

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Amr, how are we doing on thisWednesday?

SPEAKER_01 (00:44):
Man, I'm telling you, it's uh it's been a crazy
week.
Uh, I'm looking forward to goingto Pittsburgh this weekend for
the game.
Uh, still think I'm recoveringfrom the ups and downs and heart
attacks I was given on Sunday.
Uh, minus that, you know, justliving the dream, man.
Winter is slowly coming here, soI can't complain.
How are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 (01:04):
I'm doing great.
I am doing great.
I have recovered fully from thebat uh the brewers.
I've recovered from that.
Um watching Badger football hasmade me realize there's worse
things in this world than theBrewers right now.
So watching that made it, youknow, and then the Packers won.
So that was good, right?
The Packers ended my weekendwith at least something good.
If the Packers would have lost,I think I would have lost my
mind.

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I think the whole thing wouldhave just it would have just
gone sideways on me all at once.
This show would have just beenone straight therapy session,
and that's about it.
So, anyways, anyways, we watchedthat Packer game, and it was I
mean, let's just start there.
That that win against theCardinals.
I think it spoke a lot to me tosaying that this team won a gut

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wrench, like this was a gutcheck.
This was a gut check win.
You had to go into it's not likea hostile environment, should I
say, but it was, I mean, a gamewhere the the chips weren't I I
I'm at a loss for words hereright now.
It was in Glendale.

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Let's go with that.
It was in Glendale.
It was a game where you weren'tyou were expected to win, but
everybody thought it could beclose.
And now you come out of it, youwin it by four.
It was late in the game that youfinally took control of it and
won it.
It took a miracle field goal todo it.
There's a lot of things thatwent your direction in this one.
After this game, are we feelinggood about this team?

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Where are you at when you thinkabout the Green Bay Packers
right now?
Are you feeling good about wasit a win that made you feel
good, or was it a what was it, agut check win?
Like, what were your thoughts onthis win?

SPEAKER_01 (02:41):
I felt like this win was it was a win's a win.
I remember going into this gamejust saying, I don't care what
happens, as long as they win,it's all I'm happy.
And I know like we have beenwinning pretty, but we're still
winning.
So a part of me is like youshouldn't take for that for
granted.
I know sometimes that Bengalswin was where we were like, oh,
it was so underwhelming, weshould have done so much better.
But you know, when end of theday, look what they just did to

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the Steelers.
And clearly the Bengals teamwith a confident quarterback is
a lot more dangerous than youknow what they were without
without Joe Flacco, right?
So a part of me looks at the waythis game started out with there
being a six-hour delay for themto even get into Arizona, they
didn't get until like I thinkthe guy in the eight or nine

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o'clock, which really is like uhI want to say midnight for them
and and Wisconsin.
So all that was messed up.
They didn't know if Jacobs wasgonna play.
Jacobs gets cleared, but theywant to limit him.
He was beefing with the coachesbecause he's like, uh, when I
had the last time I hadsomething like this, I went for
I had the career game againstSeattle for 300 yards and he

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went off on them.
So with the strain calf and theillness, and then on top of
that, like when it just came tolike the way the offense was,
like you could just felt as alittle herky jerky defensively.
You know, we were gettinggashed, but then we were it was
weird, we were making plays, butthen also getting gashed, and
all in all, like you're saying,gut check when part of me was

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like, you know what, theyfigured out a way to win this
game against a team who, eventhough the Cardos, what now two
and five, they have all fivelosses have been in succession,
and they've all been in totalcombined points of what like 14?
Something crazy.
So they've lost all close games,and they basically came back
against the six and one Coltsand almost beat them at home.

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And I'm sorry, it beat them inIndianapolis.
So for me, like I just take thisgame as like you know what, a
win's a win, and it's a good wayto go into this week with
everything that's gonna becoming with this week.
As much as you want to make it aregular week, we all know that
it means a lot more to the fans,probably to the quarterback on
the other team.

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And all in all, it was a goodway to go in.
And I'm I don't know, like I'mnot unhappy, but I was
definitely unhappy during thegame.
But I'm like, all right, I'mgood now, and we got a win, so
I'm I'm gonna shut up.

SPEAKER_02 (04:58):
A win's a win, and like you, like we were just
talking there, it's that it'sthat gut check win to show the
fight that they had in thatgame, I guess is the big thing.
Go against the adversary because10 penalties for 94 yards.
Not great.
That was not a great effort onceagain.
They had everything that couldpossibly go in the opposite
direction, seemed to be goingthe opposite direction at times.

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I thought Matt LaFleur had twomoments in this game where I was
like, okay, maybe you'restarting to learn from your
past.
And the first half with sevenseconds, he just said, Go get
it.
And he had a deep ball shot toRomeo Dobbs across the middle,
put her down, called thetimeout, brought his field goal
kicker out, which I was stilllike, oh no, like don't get

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blocked, don't have this greatreturn.
Nothing could take it back.
Like I was just like, everythingcould go wrong here, and then he
nailed it, and it was awesome.
61 yarded, that was awesome.
That was absolutely awesome,especially as a backup, like not
even the main guy.
That was awesome to see.
So you had that, and then at theend of the game, Matt LaFleur,
fourth and two.
I was so ready for the fieldgoal.

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I was so ready for the fieldgoal.
He was pissed, I was pissed onthe field, and I was like, okay,
what are they gonna try to do?
Get him to jump off sides, likewhat it is.
And I doubt it's here, and thenhe went for it, and he had the
touch, the great pass, thecraft, where I got a little
scared.
I'm like, please tell me hehauled that just inbounds.
He wasn't bobbling it right.

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I was like, please tell me hedidn't bobble it while going out
of bounds because that's gonnabe their luck right now.
Like that's but Matt LaForque,he was getting a lot of heat
after this game, and then he'sbeen getting a lot of heat.
He got a lot of heat from me forweeks now, months, years.
I don't even know.
It's been years now since I'vestopped.
You know, I've given him heatthis whole time because of his
play calling, because of hislackluster play calling at
times.
I thought again, I the playcalling was a little suspect.

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There was like a third and onewhere he just again, I don't
know why we decide to go.
We need to run this end aroundon a third and one.
We need to try to get it to thesideline and go up.
And it's like, I forgot that wehad Josh Jacobs on this team.
Do we not trust Josh Jacobs toget us one yard?
Yes, seriously.
Go straight ahead, just go getit.
I don't understand why we got toget crazy with it.
But they do that again.
So the play calling again atthat moment, I was like, oh man,

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I'm gonna be talking about mysweet call.

SPEAKER_03 (07:10):
I was like, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 (07:12):
Yes, just the just the silly play calling.
And then all of a sudden theygo, Oh, never mind.
We'll just go for this fourthand two and everything like
that.
But I still feel like, and Iguess this is where I want to go
with the play calling topic, Istill feel like they're trying
to run the ball too much.
And if they're going to try torun the ball, then they need to
just run the ball.
There, they I feel like with theweapons that they have, Josh

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Jacobs, we I love Josh Jacobs,he's a great running back, you
got to utilize him a little bit.
But 70-30 is where I'm at.
70% pass, 30% run.
Unless if you're in anenvironment where the secondary
is just that good or it's maybethat rainy where you can't throw
the ball well or catch the ballwell, okay, I can get those
games.
That's where you utilize a guylike Josh Jacobs.
But in these kinds of games, Ifelt like your passing game

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could have ate him alive.
And I feel like Jordan Love'sgot the ability to eat a
defensive live, but you have tolet him do it.
So I guess where are you atright now with the play calling
of Matt LaFleur?
You still kind of are you stillbecause I'm in the boat of I
still am kind of eh about hisplay calling.
Like I know he can do it.
I know he's a good play caller,I know he's a great play caller
at times.
I just think he overthinks thegame at times.

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So I think he tries to do toomuch and try to get everybody
involved when he just needs towork with what he's got.
What are your thoughts on theplay calling with Matt LaFleur?

SPEAKER_01 (08:24):
If you heard Kurt Benker, he's told me that he
needs to give up play calling,which I thought was hilarious.
And that guy, he has like thebiggest bone to pick with the
floor that I just don't, I justdon't care.
Like, what did he like?
Dang, like I know he like cutyou and he didn't like probably
some of your opinions, but dang,like you holding a grudge, like
I wouldn't believe.
I agree with you where some ofthe play calling is suspect, but
I think again, like sometimesthey get just a little too cute,

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yeah.
Yeah, and I think that doesfrustrate me.
And then sometimes I feel likewhen they do there's certain
certain plays I'll see, and it'slike he's going back into his
bag from like 2023 and 2024.
Like, you know, and I'm justlike, bro, like can you like not
to say you can't think ofsomething new, but like you're
really going back to old tricks,right?
And it's like, I don't know,like a part of me is sometimes I

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wonder when it comes to theroute running, is it is it as
pristine as it needs to be?
Because like I remember that oneplay, it was like third and it
was third and I want to say itwas third and five, and they do
like uh they had trips to theirleft, and he he he he hikes it
and Dusty, someone put a clip ofit, and they're like Jordan says
hike, he's like, What the hellis this?
Right, he doesn't and then hebasically throws it to Dobbs

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across the middle, and there's asafety that almost like picks it
off, right?
Yep, and then they go for onfourth and one and he misses
Dobbs by an inch for thattouchdown, right?
And I don't know if like this islike you know how we're always
saying like September andOctober, like our preseason,
right?
We're just trying to get rightin these games, like we're
trying to figure stuff out.

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A little bit of that, and I justthink he just sometimes gets in
his own way sometimes when itcomes to his play con, if that
makes sense.
Like he just sometimes is tryingto do too much cute stuff,
trying to either establish therun, or he or he's trying to be
either uberly aggressive or he'sbeing uberly conservative, and
it's like, hey, just let itflow.
And he used to be veryanalytically based, and now he's

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very much like gut, he goes byhis gut, is what he says.
And I think he needs to go backto be a little more analytically
based because sometimes some ofthe decision making just drives
me crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (10:22):
Yeah, no, know the situation, it's knowing the
situation and what's gonna workthere, and sometimes it's going
back to old style football,smash mouth football, where it's
like a third and one.
Bring me in the big package,bring me in Josh Jacobs, go
straight ahead, put Jordan Loveunderneath the center, hand it
off Josh Jacobs with a full headof steam coming downhill, and I
trust him to get a yard.
Like that's that's where itshould be at with a guy like

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Josh Jacobs in your backfield.
There should be no question, butyeah, we still have this where,
well, let's give it to uh likeMatthew Golden or you know, when
Jaden Reed's healthy, let's giveit to Jaden Reed and send him
around the end and see whathappens.
Well, what do you think thedefense is gonna do?
They're just gonna slowly pushyou and push you to the sideline
until you're out of room, andthen you got to cut back.
Well, there's your guy.
So, I mean, it's just it's thoseplays where I look at it and I'm

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like, Matt, uh, like this iswhat this is what makes you
questionable.
This is what makes youquestionable as a head coach and
as a play caller right now, iswhen you do things like this.
And I was glad, and that's whatI said was finally in this game
on that fourth and two.
He just said, Let's do it.
I trust my guy, I got thisfeeling, let's go get it.
And that's where you wanted tosee him get to finally, and he

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did it.
And same with that end of thefirst half.
We've seen it many times.
We're even with a minute left togo, they'll put the knee down,
they'll say, We're done.
Maybe hand the ball off once andthen be done.
Yeah, he said, nah, let's sevenseconds, let's see what we can
do.
Chuck the balls across themiddle, bam, we got a timeout,
let's burn it.
There we go.
We're in not even real fieldgoal range, but we're in field
goal range.
Let's hit it.
And bam, there was I love thattenacity, that go get it

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attitude that he had in thatCardinals game.
Now, was it the most you know,perfect game that we've ever
seen out of the Green BayPackers?
No, we haven't seen, I don'tthink we've seen a perfect game
out of the Green, well, not aperfect, but a like a complete
game out of the Green BayPackers in years.
I don't think we've seen it inyears, but maybe we'll get
there.
Maybe we'll get there.
So I have a question, and I kindof want to we'll talk about it a

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little bit here, but I want toget everybody's take on this
one.
So let me know what you guysthink of this question.
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Let me know what you guys thinkabout this opinion.
Well, are of our opinions ofthis, but I want to hear your
thoughts on the question.
Is this Packers team good?
Are they really good?

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Or are they are they reallygood?
Because right now we're seeingthem as the number one team in
the NFC.
They have the only team with oneloss.
They have one tie, right?
Silly tie, but they have oneloss.
They're the only team left likethat.
They're the number one team inthe NFC.
Are they a really good one-lossteam?
A really good number one teamright now, or or are they an
average team who's been subjectto some games and some the

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schedule kind of pointing intheir direction?
Where is this team at right now?
Because they've had some thingsgo right, but like we're saying,
we haven't seen this team playreally good yet.
We haven't seen this team takethat next step.

SPEAKER_03 (13:12):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (13:13):
So is this team really good?
Are they a Super Bowl caliberteam like we thought they were
gonna be, or are they just anaverage team that's playing
above average at the verymoment?
What do you guys think?
We'd love to hear your guys'thoughts on that one.
What are your thoughts on thisPackers team?
Are they really good?
Are we being too hard on thePackers and maybe they're gonna

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get that to that threshold?
Where are your thoughts on thisteam?
We love to hear them.
We're gonna come back from thebreak.
We're gonna answer that questionfor you guys.
Is this team actually good?
And it just hasn't gotten itgoing yet?
Or put it all together, or arethey just an average team
playing some bad competitionright now?
Let me know your answer to thatquestion.

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So, Amer, we went to the break.
I asked a question and I wantedto hear your guys' opinion on
this one.
Hit me up, 715-990-4914.

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That is 715-990-4914.
Is this team, this Packers team,actually good and they just
haven't gotten it going yet?
Or they just haven't put it alltogether, or are they just an
average team playing some badcompetition right now?
This is a question I can't is Imight have seen though.

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Michaels might have asked thequestion, and I just I saw it
and I was like, I kind of wantto answer that question here on
the show tonight because it wasa good question.
It was it's a very good questionbecause right now, when you look
at this Packers team, you couldsay the secondaries, they got
their issues.
You could say the offense, theyhaven't fully reached their
potential yet.
You could say the defense as awhole has had its problems.

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So you could say this whole teamas a whole right now has had its
problems.
So what do you think, Ummer?
Has this team is this a goodteam that just hasn't reached
its full potential yet?
Or is this just uh an averageteam, some good players?
Maybe they're just average.
Like, where are you at right nowwith this team?
Because I mean, we're we're whatfive, six games in.

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You don't really know.
The book is still unwritten onwhat the rest of the season is
gonna entail for the Green BayPackers.
So, what are your thoughts rightnow on the Packers?
Are they are they a really goodteam, just haven't reached that
potential, or are they anaverage team that's this is
about what we're gonna get?

SPEAKER_01 (15:56):
I think they're a good enough team to win the
Super Bowl.
I just think that when I look atthe way they're having a lot of
inconsistencies on offense, ondefense, on special teams, it
reminds me a lot of thePhiladelphia Eagles last year.
The Eagles last year didn't lookthat good for the majority of
the year.
They had their moments, right?
But then they had some timeswhere it looked kind of like
subpar.
Even this year they don't lookthat great either, and they're

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squeaking by on some things too.
So I think for me, right now, Ithink they're still trying to
get a little bit of trying tofigure out what their identity
is.
Are they a pass first team?
Are they a run first team?
Are they a defense-orientedteam?
You know, in the first two,three weeks, you kind of felt
like they were an uh offenseteam driven by their defense,

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and then that kind of fellapart.
And so now you're trying to likemaybe they're trying to figure
out exactly what the best courseof action is.
Like, do we put more on JordanLove's uh table?
Do we take some off?
Do we do we trust the offensiveline?
Because I mean, even in thatArizona game, I saw Calias
Campbell literally steal thesoul of Jordan Morgan at right
guard.
It was disgusting.

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Like there was a play where heliterally knocked him back like
five yards to the point whereJordan Morgan almost tackled
Eric Wilson in the backfield.
It was and then Wilson was ableto still get a like beat the
beat the whole broke up play andget six yards, which was very
impressive.
But I'm sorry, like that offenseline is still not where it needs
to be.
Um I I think I still thinkthey're a Super Bowl team.

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I think like the record is itspeaks for itself.
You you can't help like lastyear.
I felt like they got lucky a lotwith a lot of injuries and
things like that.
This year, I think the samething is happening, but again,
you it's the NFL.
You can't help who you play whenyou play them, right?
And so because of that, you justhave to take the wins for what
they are, you have to take theL's for what they are, you have

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to take the ties for what theyare, right?
And I mean, look at the Cowboysright now.
I mean, the Cowboys are likethey're hearing their stride.
I mean, they'll they're lookingpretty good, right?
Yeah, um, and you know, I justfeel like we are we're kind of
like where we are right now,we're like a little bit stuck in
the mud, but we're slowly tryingto figure it out.
Um, and I feel like that thatwas kind of shown in this game

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at the end of the game wherewhen everything's on the line,
the floor trusted hisquarterback, he trusted his
playmakers to get the job done.
And I feel like on defense, samething.
Like, you know, Parsons woke upon that final drive.
And if it wasn't for him, I meanhe literally was a reason why we
secured a victory in that game.

SPEAKER_02 (18:18):
No, I would agree.
I would agree 100%.
I think it's a big thing for meis the secondary for the
Packers.
I think that's what holds himback a little bit right now for
me, because I I don't think thesecondary knows where the ball
is half the time.
So, how are you supposed toforce turnovers when you don't
know where the ball is?
Nate Hobbs is lost out there.

SPEAKER_01 (18:34):
Bro, he's he he's killing me right now.

SPEAKER_02 (18:36):
The only guy who I believe maybe might know where
they are is Xavier McKinney, andhe still looks like he's
throwing for a loop at times.
Um, outside of that, I mean theyhave uh Carrington Valentine
just needs to be a starter.
I Nate Hobbs just needs to be onthe second string.
I don't know why CarringtonValentine is still sitting
behind him, he needs to be outthere more.
Yeah, the but like Umber'spointing out, the big money
problem there.

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I would completely agree.
Karen St.
Valentine needs to be ahead ofhim.
Um but secondary lookspedestrian, and that's that's
something that I think is gonnahold him back.
And I think it might be it mightbe the thing that keeps him from
a Super Bowl.
It really is.
I really think when you face aMatthew Stafford and a Rams team
or something like that, you havea good quarterback that can
exploit a secondary with goodprotection up front.

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Micah Parsons can't get homeevery time, right?
That's hope because he gets homeevery time when he's not gonna
be able to.
They're just getting the ballout fast, and the secondary
doesn't know where they are.
So I think that's a problem forme.
Um offensively, I just thinkit's the offensive line finding
some consistency.
I really do.
It's finding consistency, and Ithink that's gonna come with
getting healthy, getting guys onthe field and being healthy, and
you know, the this it's a longseason.

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It's not it's a marathon.
It's gonna be a long seasonhere.
I mean, it's it's getting guyshealthy, getting them back, not
rushing them back either.
There's no reason why we rushguys back.
Get them back when you get themback, and then take care of it
when you get there.
I think that's that's the bigkey for this team.
I think that they're I don'tthink they're great.
I don't think they're ever gonnabe great because I just
mentioned a few things that Ithink hold them back from being

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great.
I think they're a good team,like you said, that can win the
Super Bowl.
I think they need a lot ofthings to go right, but I think
they have a lot of things theygot to clean up along the way.
And I think Matt LaFleur's gotto get out of his own way to do
that.
And I think that's that's thebig it's the secondary in Matt
LaFleur for me.
It really is because MattLaFleur needs to get out of his
own way and just call plays.

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And you know, if it is by hisgut, call plays that make sense.
Look at go common sense offense,right?
Third and one.
I have Josh Jacobs.
What should I do?
Well, common sense tells me lethim run it straight ahead.
Or do Tucker Kraft.
Go Tucker Kraft's quarterbacksneak.
Like just trust your guys.
That's the thing.
Trust your guys.
That's what he did on fourth andtwo.
He just trusted Jordan Love togo get him that first down, and

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that's what he did.
That's what I think Matt LaFleurneeds to do a lot more of is
just trust your guys.
You brought in a bunch of stars,trust them to go get it.
Josh Jacobs, trust him to go getyou a first down.
If you can't trust Josh Jacobsto get you a third and one first
down, you need to go find a newrunning back.

SPEAKER_03 (20:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (20:59):
Because if that's the case, then you don't have
the right running backs in theroom.
You don't you don't trust youroffensive line then at all.
You don't trust any of thatbecause you should trust your
offensive line enough that theycan get you a push to get you
one yard.
If you don't trust them enoughfor that, I you need to go get
some new guys.
And that's that's a big wholenother can of worms you know you
want to open.
But that secondary is just thething that holds me back when I
think about this team.

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It really is because even a guylike Jacoby Brissett, who I love
Jacoby Brissett, I love hisresilience.
He's been in the league for awhile, he's battled through
adversity, he's been at multipleteams, he's battled his way onto
rosters.
I love that about him.
But he's not like he's you knowa Matthew Stafford or a Jared
Goff for anybody like this.
So if you're having troubleswith Jacoby Brissett, you're

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gonna have a lot of problems,even with a guy like Carson
Wentz and the Vikings, becausehe's got a lot more weaponry on
the Vikings than I mean MarvinHarrison's fantastic, don't get
me wrong.
Fantastic.
And that tight end, uh, what theheck is that?

SPEAKER_03 (21:52):
McBride, Trey McBride, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (21:54):
Yeah, he's fantastic.
Like they have fantasticweapons, but they're not like
the Vikings.
They're not like if the Eaglesever get you know everything
sorted out with what they gotgoing on up there in Philly,
that's a whole nother story.
But I mean, yeah, so I guess um,just looking forward here to the
Steelers game.
Any thoughts that you're havingon the Steelers?
I mean, we know Aaron Rodgers,it's the homecoming.

(22:15):
He gets to play against the oldPackers, you know it's gonna
have that kind of juice to it.
Matt LaFleur and Rogers, youdon't know how that relationship
is.
Maybe they have some turmoil.
Maybe Matt LaFleur's looking atthis game like uh I gotta beat
the brakes off of this guy kindof too.
So, I mean, it could be one ofthose.
I mean, what are your thoughtson this upcoming game with the
Steelers here?
It's gonna be the what is that?

(22:35):
Is it a Sunday night game?
Sunday night, right?

SPEAKER_01 (22:37):
Sunday night, yeah.
I'll be there.
I'll be at the game.

SPEAKER_02 (22:40):
So Amr is there.
That's what on the ground, bootson the ground, they say for that
one there.
So Amr, I mean, thoughts on thatone.
You're heading to the game,thoughts on it.
What you want to see, what thePackers got to do to win this
one.

SPEAKER_01 (22:51):
I mean, we have to find a way to Aaron Rodgers
right now is playing at a prettyamazing clip.
He's getting the ball out withinless than 2.5 seconds, which has
been literally our Achilles heellately when it comes to playing
offenses, getting the ball outquick and just dinking and
dunking on us, right?
So we have to find a way to getpressure.
We need to have our thatsecondary that you're busting up
on, which I think you'recompletely right about.

(23:12):
I feel like Nate Hobbs wasbrought in to be a uh slot guy,
but Javon Bullard has beenplaying amazing at slot, so you
have to pay for him, you'repaying for this dude, and he's
not a boundary corner, he hasnever been a good boundary
corner, and that's showing.
And I feel like we have some,you know, DK Metcalf is a pretty
pretty physical specimen of aplayer, and having a quarterback

(23:32):
like Rogers distributing theball to him is a scary thought.
Then on top of that, too, theyhave a lot of young young guys
across the wide receiver coreover there, too.
You know, they got Roman Wilson,they have um uh Calvin Austin,
and on top they have a lot ofspeed on that all on that
offense to include, you know, abig guy than the Mercedes 2.0
and Darnell Washington, and ofcourse Pat Farrmouth, Penn State

(23:54):
uh tight end that's just uberlytalented.
I just feel like the Steelers'offense with LaRoggers back
there can be really good.
But again, they did show someweaknesses when they played
against the Pengles.
The Pengles defense is nowhereclose as good as ours.
And with all the juice that'sgonna be in this game, I mean, I
already know the Jordan Love andAaron Rodgers relationship is
great.
It's nowhere close to what Fargsand Rodgers was when they played

(24:15):
against each other in 2009,right?
It's not even close to that,right?
And so for me, I think likeyou're right, you're gonna have
a lot of juice when it comes tothe floor and Rodgers.
And I think the Packers, theonly team the Rodgers is not
being.
So he's gonna have that kind oflike, you know, whenever that
man's motivated, it's like theworst thing that you can have
going for you, right?
Um, I just feel like this isgonna be a two a really good

(24:35):
test for our defense to reallysee if they can somehow disrupt
Rogers' rhythm and ability toget the ball up quick and force
him to try to play, you know,how he played with us in 2022,
you know, running around, tryingto make play, trying to do
street ball and stuff like that,hero ball.
We need that Rogers to come onin this game.

SPEAKER_02 (24:54):
You can't let DK Metcalf burn you.
Nope.
That's it.
That's the big thing.
Avoid the big hitter.
If you if Rogers can get hotwith the big hitters, you you're
in for a long night with hissecondary.
So you gotta be able to control,you gotta be able to control the
big play in this one.
That's where I think it's gonnacome down to a lot in this one,
is the big play.
Rogers is a finesse guy, yougotta watch out for that, but

(25:16):
he's not reckless, and that'sthe thing.
You thought you had problemswith turnover thing.
Rodgers generally he's he's hadhis moments over the past year.

SPEAKER_01 (25:24):
Yeah, he's even this season, he has, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (25:26):
Yeah, like he's getting a little more crazy with
it, but if Rodgers has thatdetermination in him, yeah, like
we know that he can turn it onas Packer fans, we've seen it.
He gets very finesse and verycareful and cautious and doesn't
force things.
So you gotta be you gotta bemindful of that.
It's we hard to force turnovers,but if you can get some pressure

(25:46):
on him, make to make him makesome some mistakes, it is
possible.
The secondary has got to playgood, though.
They have to, they have to playgood in this game.
So I guess there, there you go.
There's our thoughts on theSteelers game coming up.
But let's roll into we got aquick little little thing to do.
Here we're gonna roll our powerrankings because Kyle usually
does the power rankings, but wegot NBA starting now, so Kyle's

(26:07):
like he's got a million otherthings to work on.
We don't want to bother him withthe NFL right now.
So let's do some power rankingshere, Ammer.
NFL power rankings for the week.
Let's look, let's go AFC first.
Let's go AFC.
Let's go AFC.
Umer, give me your top five,give me your top five in the
AFC, your power rankings for theweek.

SPEAKER_01 (26:26):
I think you gotta go Colts number one.
Colts are yeah, I hate it, butit's crazy.
They're six and one, they'rethey're looking like a very,
very complete football team, andyou know, they're getting it
done with Daniel Jones.
I think Jonathan Taylor mightwin MVP this year because he is
just on fire right now.
And for them to get rid of GusBradley, bring in Lou Amoraro,

(26:47):
and the way he is coaching thatdefense up, they're they're
they're playing lights out rightnow.
I think they would be the numberone team in the AFC.
I think um you've seen somekinks in the armor when it comes
to the Chiefs and the Bills, andI feel like even with that being
said, they do just find a way toturn it on in November,
December.
So I'll probably put them as twoand three, right?

(27:09):
And then I'm trying to think.
Man, AFC, who else is out therethat's like pretty good?
I mean, Chargers are very hit ormiss, right?
They've they've gotten so manyinjuries.
I don't know if they're gonna beable to sustain like they are.
I'm trying to think.
The Broncos squeaked one outagainst the Giants, which was
crazy to me.
They have they have a they havea first class defense.

(27:30):
I mean, the Broncos at four?
You can maybe throw the Broncosat four.
That's reasonable.
I can see the Broncos at fourjust because five and two on the
year.

SPEAKER_02 (27:38):
I mean, it's reasonable.

SPEAKER_01 (27:39):
Yeah, I think the Broncos at four, and then who
would be number five?

SPEAKER_02 (27:43):
Um, can we throw the Pats in there yet?

SPEAKER_01 (27:46):
Who is it?
The Patriots?
Yeah, honestly, five and fiveand two, top of the AFC East.

SPEAKER_02 (27:52):
I mean, they're looking pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 (27:54):
Yeah, put the Patriots as five.
Um, and then I think you know,with the way with the way in the
AFC, in the AFC East, it's kindof hard because all those like
the Ravens are one and five.
They're not they don't lookgood.
Cleveland is literally holdingon with their defense, and then
you got the Bengals who areslowly coming on strong, but

(28:15):
still though, like they're theygotta sustain what they got
going on.
The Steelers just lost to theBengals, yeah.
So it'd be hard to pick a teamout of that division, but yeah,
I think I put the preachers fivebecause the way Variable is
coaching that team, Drake May isplaying out of his mind, and he
he has gained the best out ofthat team.
I gotta give Fariable his props.

SPEAKER_02 (28:30):
Drake May is looking like he should have been either
the one or two pick in thatdraft, and Jimmy Daniels should
have been the other one.
And so that draft the Bears arelooking like silly ones, but
that's right now.
Maybe the Bears figure.
Yeah, maybe, maybe it just kindof changes around.
I like that.
I'd go Colts one.
I like that.
Uh I'd go Colts.
I'd be crazy.
I'd throw Colts, Patriots,Broncos, Colts, Patriots,

(28:54):
Broncos, and then it's the AFC.
There's nothing really happeningthat's pretty.
You'd go like Bills and Billsand Chiefs, maybe just throw it
around.
I mean, the AFC is kind ofcrazy, especially because like
we're talking Colts or six andone.
The top of the we did not seethat one coming at all.
The NFC also, I mean, you couldthe NFC is kind of crazy too.
So let's look over that NFCpicture.

(29:15):
Yeah, you have Philly coming infive and two, they lead the
east.
You have the Packers at four andone, they lead the north.
Tampa Bay is five and two, theylead the south, and then in the
west, you have the 49ers up top,five and two.
That division's got a lot offive and two teams with CR and
Rams all five and two.
So, what do you think?
In the NFC, give me your topfive, give me your power
rankings, top five.

(29:36):
This one.

SPEAKER_01 (29:37):
I know it's a homer take, and I know that it's it's
uh it's definitely home runsbased on the record that Willie
probably isn't completelyaccurate because of the time.
The Packers are one just becausethey are number one in the NFC
right now.
It's just the way it is.
I don't make the rules, but itis what it is.
Yep, the best record, that'swhat they are.
And then I probably would thenput, you know, I hate to say it,

(29:58):
but more than likely I wouldprobably put.
I'd probably have to put theNiners as too, and I hate that.
I just think so I'll put it thisway power ranking wise, based on
record, maybe the Niners, butall these teams that are leading
these divisions right now, theBuccaneers are completely banged
up.
You know, they lost Mike Evansnow for most of the year.
So they're going to be reallydependent on some rookie guys,
right?
Then you got the 49ers who aretrying to figure out between

(30:19):
Matt Jones and Brock Purdy.
Their defense is completelydecimated.
They lost their top two stars.
So they're just squeaking by,right?
And then in our division, yougot like, and then of course you
can't forget like the Eagleswould be number three to me
because they are the defendingSuper Bowl champs.
They're five-unto their leadingdivision.
They've had some blips on theradar, but for the most part,
they're still playing prettygood football.

(30:40):
If Jalen Carter, A, can stayhealthy and B just stay out of
trouble, they have a good shotthere, right?
Yep.
Um and I think it's a toss-upbetween the Seahawks and the
Rams because the Rams are stillfinding ways to get it done even
when they don't have theirmarquee players there.
And then the Seahawks look likea team possessed last night.
And like I'm kind of waiting forthe other shoe to drop for

(31:02):
Darnold because Darnold'splaying lights out right now,
but we all seen Darnold.
He always crumbles underpressure.
It doesn't matter like how goodhis team is.
He showed that last year, right?
And so I'm really interested insee when the Seattle Seahawks do
play the Rams because I want tosee how they perform against
them.

SPEAKER_02 (31:17):
Yeah, no, I like that.
I like that.
I'd go I'd go over the samething.
I'd go Packers.
I'd I'd probably go Packers,Lions, 49ers.
I'd say Rams, and then Eaglesare my last one because they are
falling apart at the seams, andeverything just seems to be
crumbling at their feet.
So I like that one there.
So Auber, I gotta run here.
Let the people know where tofind you out there across social
media.

SPEAKER_01 (31:36):
All right, you can find me at uh AMAR3455.
You can find us at Coast CoastPackers on all social media
platforms.
Um, we're hoping to actuallyhave a guest this week.
Um, so we're gonna let me lockthat in and then I think I'll
tell Trick to uh share thathopefully tomorrow.
And yeah, we're just uh to tryand get back on track with that.
But yeah, man, it's been it's abeen it's always been a pleasure
and an honor doing the show withyou.

SPEAKER_02 (31:56):
Oh, it's a blast every single week.
Make sure you guys are checkingthem out there across Twitter
and everything like that, Coastto Coast Packers.
Make sure you're checking outhere for more Packer content
later this week.
So we'll be back here after thequick commercial break.
We're gonna talk bucks with Kyleon the back side of the ad
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We have the Mellow Yellow Minutecoming up here, the Trivia.

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So, Kyle is here tonight.
Kyle, the World Series.
We got the matchup now.
Blue Jays, Dodgers.
Not exactly what we were hopingfor, but we got that.
So, I mean, we got that goingon.
NBA's back, NFL's in full swing.
Kyle, how are we doing?
It's Wednesday.
We're excited that you're backhere.
How are we doing?

SPEAKER_00 (33:39):
Yeah, uh, I'm good.
I mean, look, MLB is coming toan end.
That just means the hot stovewill pick up, which as a Red Sox
fan, I'm excited for that thisoffseason.
NFL's underway, NBA's back.
I'm I'm excited.

SPEAKER_02 (33:54):
How excited are you that it's like a$605 million
World Series?
How excited are you for that?
Because it's just crazy, isn'tit?
Just crazy.
Yeah.
Let me ask you one thing becauseI kind of I alluded to it
earlier on in the show, talkingabout the Brewers and the way it
wrapped up.
But let me ask you one thing.
The Dave Roberts comment ofsaying, and it, I don't know,

(34:16):
like I Grant Bill's a Wisconsinsports guy.
He said he sounded like JohnCena trying to pump up the
crowd.
But he's like, you know, oh,they're so mad at us for ruining
baseball.
Let's ruin it with four morehere.
And it's like, Dave, that's nothelping.
You're you're actually you don'teven understand what Dave
Roberts, the thing thatirritates me the most with Dave
Roberts, and I want to hear yourthoughts on his comments there

(34:38):
because it's not like it's a bigdeal, but it kind of irritates.
My biggest problem with DaveRoberts is Dave Roberts doesn't
actually have to manage the gameof baseball.
Like he just throws out a uh aroster with his leading guy
deferring all of his moneytowards the end of his contract.
He just throws out this megaroster with a pitching staff
that includes four aces that theBrewers just had to face in a

(35:00):
row, which sucked.
I know we talked about thatearlier, so I don't get into all
that.
But Dave Roberts irritates methe most because he doesn't,
he's the one manager who doesn'thave to do anything and just win
baseball games.
Most of his guys can chill inArizona and then come back in
the postseason and just play thegame.
And it's like, oh well, wheredid Tyler Glass now come from?
I forgot that he was pitchingfor the Dodgers.
It's it irritates me, I guess.

(35:21):
So, Kyle, I mean, just kind ofyour thoughts on Glass, or not
Glass, but Dave Roberts, thecomments, just this baseball in
general, the way that it seemsto be trending right now is you
gotta be able to spend the bigbucks to get there.

SPEAKER_00 (35:35):
Yeah, um I mean, I guess in terms of the of the
Dodgers, it's like nobodyoutside of LA likes your team
because of kind of theadvantages that it's seen that
you're taking of the salary cap.
Well, not salary cap, but oflike the economics of baseball.
So if he's gonna lean into itand kind of play up to it, I I

(35:59):
actually don't have a problemwith that.
Because my thing is if you're anathlete, a coach, or whatever,
and you know the perception ofyour team, if you try to come
out and act like, oh, why do youhate us?
We're not bad.
You know why.
Nobody likes the way that you'reoperating, they don't like the
whole deferred money stuff, theydon't like the fact that we're

(36:20):
back in like the SteinbrennerYankees era where you can like
buy World Series rosters and Imean you look, you still have to
go out there and win.
Yeah, because the Yankees havebeen doing it for a while, and
it's been a while since they wonone.
So at least the Dodgers aredoing whatever the Yankees
can't.
So I I don't have a problem withit.
It's just if he gets confrontedwith kind of like the villain

(36:43):
role, he can't then try to walkit back.
Like this is the road you'regoing down, embrace the villain
role.

SPEAKER_02 (36:49):
Yeah, yeah.
No, it just it it irritates mebecause it I shouldn't why can
you defer money to a back of acontract like that?
Why why is that even apossibility?
Because now you have Show Tan ismaking two mil a year, so now
you're able to go sign everybodyelse in the world.
You got all these big marketswith the TV and everything like
that, because you got theJapanese markets and everything

(37:10):
like that.
It just it leads to the Dodgersmaking more money, which I
understand it's an economicthing.
They do great, like they'remaking money, that's what
matters to them, everything likethat.
And I, you know, the brewers, dothey have more money they could
spend?
Yeah, probably.
Yes.
Yes.
I won't say that they don't.
I don't say that there's a lotof teams that don't have, but
the brewers aren't gonna be ifyou don't have a cap, the
brewers still will not be ableto spend the money that the

(37:32):
Dodgers spent.
The you know, teams like theBrewers, teams like oh, I'm
trying to think of some othersmall market teams out there
right now.
I mean, you're gonna have theWhite Sox aren't gonna be able
to spend money like that.
You could go down a laundry listof teams where they're not gonna
be able to spend the money thatthe Yankees and Dodgers can,
even if their owners bucked upand paid all this money.
It's still not gonna add up tothe same amount.

(37:52):
So I don't know.
It just it irritates me thatwhole Dave Roberts thing, the
whole comment.
And it's probably because it waslike, you know, the stress of
just you know losing four gamesto him, everything like that.
But anyway, so that's over withKyle.
Let's get into it.
Let's get to the Mellow YellowMinute before we get to the
Bucks here.
As we always do, the MellowYellow Minute, our little trivia
segment in honor of my grandpathere.

(38:13):
He loved trivia, he loved MellowYellow.
We put the good the two togetherthere.
That's what we love to do.
So I can't remember what lastweek was, but this week we're
gonna do top five America'sfavorite holidays in order.
Top five.
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That's all you need to know.
You get a free prize there.
So, Kyle, here's the list.
We have Easter, we haveThanksgiving, Halloween,
Mother's Day, and Christmas.
I need you to put them in orderone through five, five through
one.
What's the order, Kyle?
Where do you want to start?
Five or one?

(39:05):
Where do you want to start?

SPEAKER_00 (39:06):
I'll start at five.
I'm kind of locked in on two ofthem.
So I'm gonna go.
Give me Easter at five.

SPEAKER_02 (39:16):
Not Easter, not Easter.
Okay, close.
Just close.

SPEAKER_00 (39:20):
I'm fine with that.
So five?
Halloween.

SPEAKER_02 (39:26):
Not Halloween either.
Those two I thought would havemaybe been down.
Not not either one of those.

SPEAKER_00 (39:31):
Yeah, I kind of felt like the past few years,
Halloween's kind of falling off.
Okay.
So it's not Easter, it's notHalloween.
So I have Thanksgiving, Mother'sDay, and Christmas.
Is it Mother's Day?

SPEAKER_02 (39:41):
Mother's Day is number five on our list.
I know.
I know.
Those mothers out there.
I'm sorry.

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That is.

SPEAKER_02 (39:49):
We love you here on the show.
We love you here.

SPEAKER_00 (39:51):
Yeah.
Okay, so Mother's Day is five.
I'm gonna go Halloween four.

SPEAKER_02 (39:59):
Not Halloween four.
It is Easter four.
It is Easter four.
So I'm guessing Halloween'sgonna Halloween is number three,
15%.
Nine percent put it as theirleast favorite day of the year.
It has both.
It has the favorite day of theyear and least favorite day of
the year.

SPEAKER_00 (40:15):
Okay.
Um I'm gonna go Thanksgivingtoo.
Thanksgiving is number two.
And Christmas one.

SPEAKER_02 (40:23):
Five percent of people say that Christmas is
their least favorite day of theyear.
I feel bad for those fivepercent.
I you need to listen to the showhere on Christmas.
Listen to the show here, we'llmake you feel better.
That's that's all you need toknow.
Five percent of people say thatit's the worst day of the year.
That's sad.
That's sad.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I'm very sorry, very sorryfor you.
We'll we'll get you something.
You hit me up, hit me up, we'llmake you feel better here on the

(40:45):
show.
So, anyways, there you go.
There's our trivia hour there.
We got Mother's Day at five,Easter at four, Halloween at
three, Thanksgiving at two, andChristmas number one, America's
favorite holidays.
So there you go.
There you go.
Interesting little list there.
So, Kyle, let's dive into thebucks.
The bucks open up tonight here.
We're getting close.
Seven o'clock is tip timetonight.
We're getting close to that one.

(41:06):
Kyle Bucks, I want to hear yourthoughts on Giannis's brothers
because it seems like I don'tknow what other brothers he has,
but it seems like we're gonnahave all of them at some point
here.
We're gonna have a starting fiveof the Giannis brothers at some
point here in Milwaukee.
So I just want to hear kind ofyour thoughts on why, if it's
needed, should it be needed tokeep a star happy at this point?

(41:30):
Like, give me your thoughts onthe Giannis brothers getting all
of them basically losing guys.
They gave this deal to ChrisLivingston, and he just got see
you later, dude.
Like, we need to add on AlexAnatekupo.
Like, okay, uh great.
And then Thanastas has been outof the league for a little bit,
and now it's like, oh yeah, comeback.
What do you what are yourthoughts on it?

SPEAKER_00 (41:50):
So I think first off, I believe there is a fourth
brother named Costusattentakuum.
I'm not exactly sure where heis, but I do believe there's a
fourth brother.
Now, in terms of bringing in thetwo brothers, look, the NASA has
been there uh before, so that'swhatever.

(42:11):
It's once again kind of the umenvironment that the NBA is in
that small market cities feellike they have to do stuff like
this to keep star playersbecause of the outside pressure
for them to move to the biggermarkets because everybody's
under the impression that youcan't make money, you can't be a

(42:33):
superstar unless you play in NewYork or LA.
I think what Giannis and otherstars have shown before Giannis
is a superstar in Milwaukee.
So now the team at this pointhas to stay competitive, has to
create an environment whereGiannis feels welcome and happy

(42:54):
because Giannis at some pointcould turn around and hold it
over them and be like, hey,yeah, I'm you know, Alex is out
there.
I feel like he should come in,and if the team were to say no,
they'd probably be afraid, like,oh, is that what would send him
out the door?
So I think it's unfortunate thatother players lose their spot
because of the Nassis and Alex,who are two guys that you

(43:18):
probably won't see unless it's ablowout.
So it's unfortunate, but it'sit's kind of what Milwaukee
needs to do because that outsidenoise is just gonna get louder
and louder.

SPEAKER_02 (43:30):
And it's every it seems like it is.
It seems like it's alreadygetting loud as we're speaking
right now.
So hopefully, hopefully that'sour Shams.
I'm gonna hate to say if Shamswas right the whole time.
I'm gonna really hate to say ifhe was right the whole time.
So that's gonna that's gonna besomething there.
So yeah, I I completely agree.
It in the current landscape thatis the NBA, it's what you have
to do, it just stinks, like yousaid, because other guys have to

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lose their roster spot just tobring those guys in.
So yeah, that's that's the roughworld that we live in in the NBA
nowadays.
So Bucks open up tonight,wizards on the docket here.
Let's look into this roster alittle bit that we're gonna see
tonight here for the Bucs.
So we expect the starters forthis Bucks team to be Kevin
Porter, Gary Trent Jr.

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You're gonna see Kyle Kuzma,Giannis, and then Miles Turner.
That five right there, I'm gonnabe honest with you, Kyle.
I mean, it doesn't look when youlook at it, it's not like, oh,
I'm looking at the uh I'mwatching the Rockets and the
Thunder.
I'm not watching two startinglineups like that with a lot of
star power at the moment.
But there's a lot of guys,there's a lot of pieces in
there, right?
Miles Turner, a fantastic big,able to stretch the floor for

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you.
Giannis, the superstar that weknow.
If Kyle Kuzma can be like uh areally tall, lanky Pat
Connington, get after the ball,not do a lot, just be a
hard-nosed basketball player,but good play good defense.
Maybe that's fine's his game.
Gary Trent, we know can shoot.
And if Kevin Porter Jr.
continues to advance like he didlast season, this could be a

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pretty darn good startinglineup.
Not a not a superstar-filledstarting lineup, but a solid
starting lineup.
What are your thoughts on thestarting lineup that we see
right now for this MilwaukeeBucks team?

SPEAKER_00 (45:09):
Yeah, I think starting lineup wise, the
potential is there.
Obviously, Kuzma and to acertain extent, Tori and Prince
because just because of the wayDoc kind of operates, you feel
like those two might beinterchangeable starting at the
three, and that might be the Xfactor to the team.

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Can Kuzma play up to kind of thepotential he showed with the
Lakers?
And can Prince be the three andD guy that he's supposed to be?
Where unfortunately last seasonit was like you'd get one game
where you saw it, and then you'dget like a week where he can't
buy a bucket and he's gettinginto foul trouble.

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So if they can find some type ofconsistency between those two, I
think the starting lineup looksa lot better.
So it's not a starting lineupthat you look at and go, oh,
they're probably gonna win theEast, they're gonna be a one
seed.
No, but it's also not a startinglineup that you look at and go,
I don't know how this team makesthe playoffs, or they're gonna
struggle to be a play-in team.
I think they're somewhere in themiddle.

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And once again, like I said, ifKuzma can elevate his game, then
that just would help the Bucksmove a little bit higher up in
the standings at the end of theseason.
Because I I think what last yearhe shot like 35% around the rim.
That's a number that has to comeup.

SPEAKER_02 (46:35):
That was bad, and that's what I was saying.
Like, if you could get a KyleKuzma to just be a serviceable
defender, get after it, veryphysical kind of guy.
That that could just be what youneed on this roster, especially
having Miles Turner come in.
He's gonna give you somescoring.
You're gonna have Giannis.
If you let uh Kevin Porter justrun wild on him, I mean you

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could have a lot of scoring inthis lineup without Kyle Kuzma
having to do anything, which Ithink if he can just fill that
role, then you like where he'sat.
If he's uh eight points a gamebut plays good defense, rebounds
the basketball, does the littlethings, you live with that.
And you're gonna have guysbehind him, like you said, and
maybe there's possibilities.
So this was gonna be a question,too.
I had could you see the Bucsmaybe trying to roll because

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we've seen the Warriors do itfor how many years now, trying
to go with the small balllineup?
Could you see a team like theBucks maybe say, AJ Green, I
love what you bring me.
You're a great shooter.
I'd love to have you out therewith Gary Trent because he's a
great shooter too.
And if we have a guy like KevinPorter on the court at the same
time to facilitate you two thebasketball, maybe you go with a
smaller lineup with a guy likeAJ Green coming in, Kuzma going

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out, and then maybe you can rolla lineup like that.
Could you see something likethat working out with the Bucs?
Because there are a lot of teamsthat they don't really rely on
having that much height, likeyou don't need that many bigs on
the court at the same time.
You can get away with havingsome small ball playing fast
because that's the way the kindof the league's going.
What are your thoughts on thatkind of scenario working out for
the Bucs?

SPEAKER_00 (47:57):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like for Doc, everything needs
to be on the table.
And certain nights, you don'tnecessarily have to run small
ball, obviously, you know, for48 minutes or whatever.
If and Justin Spurts, just tochange it up on teens, if you do
that, I don't see why not.
Like it just makes too muchsense, you know.

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Uh Miles Turner obviously is afive, but even he's like a small
ball five because he likes toplay on the perimeter, which
obviously he has to be anupgraded version of Brooke
Lopez.
They're similar in what theirrole is gonna be.
He's younger, he's moreathletic, so he has to be
better.

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So, yeah, I feel like if they goto the bench, maybe you throw a
bench lineup where, like yousaid, you sub in an AJ Green and
you say, Giannis, play five fora few minutes until you know
Turner or Sims then comes in andyou go back to more traditional
lineup.
Yeah, I think it makes way toomuch sense not to do that.

SPEAKER_02 (48:57):
Yeah, no, I like it.
And you know, this season Ithink it's gonna help out Doc a
lot, not having to the DamianLillard stuff going on, and then
even before that, you have theChris Middleton stuff going on
with the Damian Lillard stuff.
Now just having a lineup whereit's more serviceable, a lot of
depth pieces, not a lot ofstars, not a lot of stars to
have to deal with, justbasketball, just getting back to

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the basics.
I think that could help DocRivers out, too, you know, with
making decisions in there alongthe way.
So I kind of like that.
The depth pieces we're talkingabout.
You have Cole Anthony, you haveRyan Rollins.
I think the point guard spot'sreally deep for the Bucks
because I think Ryan Rollins'got a ton of potential, and he's
sitting there in that thirdspot.
And then you look at theshooting guard spot, like we
talked about before.
You have Gary Trent, then youhave AJ Green, and then Gary

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Harris, who Gary Harris isn'tanything shiny, he's not the
shiny toy, but he's aserviceable guy, like we're
mentioning with a lot of thisroster here.
And then you have guys likewe're talking about Jericho
Sims, you got Bobby Portis yeton the bench.
I mean, there's a lot of, Idon't know if you would say like
it's not superstar depth, right?
But it's good depth.
You have a lot of pieces where Idon't know if you're gonna skip

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too many beats going to thebench.
Is that kind of what you seewith this team on paper?
Well, from what we're seeingright now.

SPEAKER_00 (50:07):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's a lineup that should be
able to play multiple ways.
Because look, there's gonna besome lineups where you know
Portis goes in at the five, hekind of represents a small ball
five as well.
And you know, you play one waywith him, you play one way when
Giannis is at the five.
Maybe you play a little bitfaster when Giannis is is at the

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five, and you bring in thatsmaller lineup with him.
If you want to go crazy big,like you could probably run like
uh Turner, Portis.
You could probably run likeGiannis at the three some nights
and go bigger against certainteams.
So I think Doc Rivers if heembraces it, he has a lineup

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that could be versatile as longas he uses the guys correctly.
Yeah, that guard depth is issomething that he should tap
into, and it's gonna be needed.
Like they they can't just playthe same way, one way that we've
seen the past couple of years,because we've seen that they've
kind of slowly regressed alittle bit.

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It's time to kind of freshen itup and and try a new approach.

SPEAKER_02 (51:15):
Yeah, gets them back to more physical play.
I think that's gonna be a bigthing, and I think that's what
this lineup may get back to isplaying more physical, getting
after it, trying to play those,because they're not gonna be
this high-scoring Octaneoffense.
They're gonna have to win games110 to 109, 110 to 105,
whatever, you know.
So it's gonna be a little bitlow.
That sounds like a high-scoringgame, but it's low in today's

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NBA, it seems like.
So trying to win games like thaton some nights is something that
the Bucs are definitely gonnahave to look for.
So, any like, give me your earlythoughts on the NBA season right
now.
I mean, is there any give mesome bold predictions before I
have to let you go here?
Give me some bold predictionsyou have for this upcoming NBA
season.

SPEAKER_00 (51:55):
So, one bold prediction.
I believe the Atlanta Hawks willwin 50 games this year.
Oh, like it's not crazy bold,because I believe their
over-under is like 47 and ahalf, but I think they're a
50-win team as long as JalenJohnson, Porzinga stay healthy.
That's obviously a big if.
I think Derek White will makehis first all-star team this

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year.
And uh the Clippers out Westmight be in trouble when it
comes to the playoffs.
They're they're one of theoldest.
I think they might be the oldestteam, if not the second oldest
team in the league.
I just wonder about the 82 gameschedule, whether or not they

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can have all of them be healthyfor enough games for them to be
a playoff team.
If they get in, though, they'llprobably be a tough out once
they make the playoffs.
They're they're a weird team tokind of forecast, but that's
what I think uh will happen withthe Clippers.

SPEAKER_02 (52:56):
Oh, I like it.
I like the bold takes from Kylethere.
I love the bold predictionshere.
NBA just tipping off here.
We saw the first games tip offlast night.
We got the Bucks coming up herein mere moments as we're getting
to the end of the show here.
So seven o'clock hour, we'regonna see the Bucks tipping off
against the Wizards.
Can't wait to watch openingnights here for the Milwaukee
Bucks.
So, Kyle, thank you as always.
Let the people know where tofind you out there across social

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media.

SPEAKER_00 (53:20):
Yeah, easiest way.
Uh uh, YouTube, Facebook,shopping at the bit.
You'll see the links to my othersocial media.
So that's the easiest way tofind me.

SPEAKER_02 (53:31):
You guys gotta check him out.
All kinds of stuff happeningright now.
He's talking NFL over there,NBA.
He's got all kinds of contentover there.
You guys gotta be checking outthere.
So thank you as always, Kyle.
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