April 24, 2024 • 35 mins
"You believe in the afterlife, don't you, Annette?" These words marked the beginning of a profound journey for Annette Marinaccio, one that would lead her into the depths of discovery regarding existence beyond the physical realm. As a certified public accountant and healthcare executive, Annette's life initially revolved around numbers and practicalities. However, her perspective shifted dramatically following her mother-in-law's passing, sparking a quest to understand the mysteries of the afterlife that would ultimately shape a metaphysical journey.
An Odyssey of Enlightenment: From Skepticism to Authority in Metaphysics
As Annette delved into her personal odyssey, I found myself resonating deeply with her definition of enlightenment – the opening of the soul to embrace the influx of light. Her transition from skepticism about the afterlife to believer was marked by years of introspection and research, culminating in her invaluable contributions to understanding life's deeper mysteries.
Intimate Encounters with the Metaphysical: The Power of Dreams and Synchronicities
Throughout our conversation, Annette recounted intimate encounters with the metaphysical, including powerful dreams that served as gateways to profound insights. One dream, featuring a mysterious figure urging her to release attachments, left an indelible imprint on her waking consciousness. A swirling vortex provided her with a deeper understanding of the intricate dance of souls within the universe.
Validation and Commitment: Annette's Involvement with the Forever Family Foundation
Annette's experiences underscored for me the transformative power of dreams, serving as conduits for communication with departed loved ones and spiritual guides. Together, we explored the significance of synchronicities and the subtle messages that the universe imparts to guide us along our paths.
Our discussion also delved into Annette's involvement with the Forever Family Foundation, where she found validation for her beliefs in the continuity of existence beyond de
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Megan Mary (00:00):
Welcome.
Today, we have AnnetteMarinaccio.
She is a certified publicaccountant, an accomplished
healthcare executive, and theauthor of Your Soul Focus.
Her mother in law led Annette ona path after she died to prove
to her that there is anafterlife.
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After understanding that theafterlife is existent, Annette
learned how intricate andextensive our souls and our
journeys are.
The information that Annette hasaccumulated and conveyed has a
clear and deep benefit to othersduring their times of need, you.
grief, or curiosity, and yoursoul focus will pass that
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knowledge onto you.
Your soul focus has beenendorsed by three Long Island
mediums with a public presence.
It has reached number one onAmazon three times.
It has dozens of five starreviews.
A chapter was included in aSaturday Night Live skit, and
most importantly, it has broughtcomfort and inspiration to
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thousands of readers.
Welcome, Annette!
Annette Marinaccio (01:07):
Thank you so much for having me, Megan.
Thank you
Megan Mary (01:09):
so wonderful to have you here and hear your
experience.
I love sharing stories of otherwomen who come from all
different walks of life and findout that there is an unseen
world.
That is really the realm that Ilike to dwell in and I love
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opening up that world to otherpeople and I love hearing
everyone's story about how theydiscovered it.
So thank you for being willingto share your story.
Annette Marinaccio (01:43):
Thank you.
Megan Mary (01:44):
So my first question that I ask everybody on the show
is, what does enlightenment meanto you?
Annette Marinaccio (01:50):
That's a great question.
For me, when I hear the wordenlightenment, I automatically
think of waking up, awake ormore light.
And so I think that most peoplethroughout their earthly life
are on a trajectory to beenlightened a little bit as they
go.
And so to some extent, somepeople get enlightened very
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early on.
Some people, it takes a littlebit more time and maybe some
people never get there, but itis certainly the opening of your
soul to let light in.
That's what I think of when Ithink of enlightenment.
Megan Mary (02:25):
I completely agree and that works so perfect
because the intro to the show asthe listeners know as I say
let's bring in the light,because that's really what to me
it is as well.
Light is all of the spiritualenergy around us, right?
And the 3D versus the 4D or the5D is that density of that
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frequency and the amount oflight that we are actually
aligned with.
Or not,
Annette Marinaccio (02:54):
that's true.
And I, I like to sometimes ifpeople say, what is it like to
be on the other side or how cana soul be in more than one place
at once meaning visiting, mysister at the same time that
they're visiting me.
And I always say, just think oflight, light is, can be many
places at once, it travels veryfar, very fast.
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It's very vast.
And so I think that that's whatwe are.
Once we shed these physicalbodies, we're like a light
energy.
Megan Mary (03:26):
Mm hmm.
For sure.
So tell the listeners a littlebit about how you went from
healthcare executive and CPA towriting a book about the
afterlife.
Annette Marinaccio (03:39):
Sure.
And, and I still am a CPA and,and a healthcare executive and I
love that.
I I really enjoy my work.
But after my mother in law died,which was 2006, she became very
intent on proving to me that shewas still here, that we go on
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after we die.
And I, I don't know that I wouldsay I was skeptical, I just
really had never thought aboutit that much, and so once I
accepted the fact that she isstill with us, even though she
crossed, I was then veryobsessed.
I was like, wait a minute.
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If we go on, this was my onequestion.
If we go on, what are we doinghere?
Like, I don't understand theconnection between there and
here.
And so I felt very much like anaccountant.
I needed to understand that.
I mean, that's just a way I.
I work.
That's the way I am at work.
It's the way I am at home.
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So I was like, I need tounderstand this.
So I then spent four yearsresearching everything
metaphysical.
I just needed to reallyunderstand, okay, I get it.
You're still here.
Why?
Why?
Then why am I here?
And you're there.
I don't get it.
And so once I really had a goodhandle on sort of how the
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universe works to a largerextent, which took about four
years.
I then was very satisfied and Isort of stopped and thought,
okay, I'll just live my life alittle bit differently.
I have this deep knowledge andit.
It will help me in all walks oflife.
And so I just sort of stoppedbeing obsessed with the
metaphysical.
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And then as the universe wouldhave it, I was placed in the
path of people throughout thenext three or so years that
really would benefit from apiece of what I had learned.
So whether it was a coworkergoing through some horrible
grief situation or someonescratching their head about why
something was happening in theuniverse, the way it was
happening.
And I was like, Oh, I.
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I can figure that out because I,what I had learned, or I know
what's happening here, or haveyou seen the signs from your
mother or whatever?
And then after about three yearsof that and, and people saying
to me, Oh my goodness, that wasso eyeopening to me or life
changing.
You changed my life and I'm notlike a doctor or a nurse.
I'm an accountant, so I'm notused to getting that kind of
feedback that I've.
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Changed somebody's life.
So that was like great feedbackfor me.
And then I was like, you know,something, I think I'm supposed
to put this in a book because Ican really synthesize everything
I've learned into a really likedigestible usable format so that
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And an everyday person can pickit up and say, oh, I didn't
think of it that way.
Oh, I didn't realize that.
Oh, and so that's what I did.
And so I put that book out andI'm glad I did.
I knew when I.
Put it out that it would have anenergy of its own and and it
does so, that's sort of crossedover from just the 3d world to
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understanding the universe moreand still living in the 3d
world,
Megan Mary (06:58):
yes, and I love how you were still able to have one
foot in each world and thatyou've found a way to integrate
what you've learned and still.
Exist in that other world,partly because, like you said,
you're needed in that world.
So the other people that werecoming around you that were
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looking for the guidance andyour experience could help them
is it really answers thatquestion.
But why are you there and I'mhere.
Annette Marinaccio (07:29):
Right.
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
And the more people we help oneon one one to many people, but
the more people we help to opentheir eyes or their heart or
their soul to the fact that Thisearthly life is just really a
sliver of what we're reallyabout.
I think that it's better off forall of us.
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So I also learned early on whenI first put the book out that
sharing, which is what youmentioned at the beginning,
sharing, sharing is veryimportant.
So I'm all happy to share at anypoint, anytime anybody wants me
to talk about it.
I can talk about the afterlifefor a very long time.
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I can also talk about.
Physician compensation andcontracting, but those two
topics I can speak about for avery long time because they
really interest me and I love toshare.
Megan Mary (08:23):
It's what lights you up and that's what you should
share.
Yes.
It's the power of suggestion.
So many times when you start totalk about something when you
bring a topic to the fore.
That people aren't used totalking about.
Sometimes there'll beresistance, but more than often
it's, wow, that's sointeresting.
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I never thought about that,which is what I get a lot.
Cause a lot of people just don'tthink about their dreams.
Don't think they're important.
Don't understand why you wouldand have never heard of what I
do and don't understand thebenefit of it.
They might say, well, why wouldwe do that?
Well, what's the benefit?
And so it's really pulling themout from where they are to gain
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a greater appreciation of theirexperience here.
Annette Marinaccio (09:15):
That's true.
And, and once I had that betterunderstanding about the
universe, it did help me even inmy work, my career just take a
different approach.
attitude about the people that Iwork with every day.
And and so that was very helpfultoo, just having both of those
aspects of my interest andpersonality, having them be
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aligned.
Megan Mary (09:40):
I love talking about synchronicities because that is
something that I experiencedaily and follow and the more
you follow them, the more theyhappen and I know that you've
experienced that as well on yourjourney.
Annette Marinaccio (09:56):
That's true.
I mean the entire, beginning ofmy eyes being open was a series
of synchronicities.
My mother in law she leftbreadcrumbs.
So she was like a littlesynchronicity, a little
breadcrumb, a little breadcrumb,and then when you put it all
together, you have a beautiful,Brioche loaf of bread, but she
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really left those breadcrumbs,which was a series of
synchronicities to help me openmy eyes.
And because I'm an accountant, Ithink the other side, cause she
enlisted my deceased relativesand my spirit guides, which at
the beginning of this, I didn'twant to have to believe in
spirit guides, but now Iunderstand they exist.
That seemed a little bit outthere for me, but now I
understand it's, it's part ofit.
But they really.
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Fed me the information about theother side, like a morsel at a
time, because they knew that myaccounting brain was not going
to just, you know, all of asudden embrace the possibility
that we go on.
So I needed really to, to bespoon fed a little bit at a
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time.
And then even after I acceptedthat we go on, they spoon fed
me.
Information about how theuniverse works just a little bit
at a time.
So I was able to sort of pick upa piece and pick up a piece and
pick up another piece until Ifelt very comfortable that I
understand.
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I can understand the universenow.
I can understand why thingshappen.
It's not so foreign to meanymore
Megan Mary (11:28):
It's a wonderful perspective to gain and, and to
share and I love following thembecause I find that they just
appear more and more and morewhen you do.
But for the people that arelistening who say spirit guide,
what is that?
And because you have come fromthe other side of the very
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structured scientific side,explain to the listeners how you
came to accept that, tounderstand that in a way that's
accessible, like you said.
Annette Marinaccio (12:02):
So with spirit guides, to learn about
spirit guides, I did a lot ofreading just to learn about the
metaphysical A lot of what Iread did not resonate with me or
didn't make sense, but a lot ofwhat I read did.
And so what I learned withspirit guides is that we have
many of them and some guide usfor our entire life, but many
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are, are with us for a portionof our life.
So for instance, if we haveyoung children, maybe this
spirit guide is with us when ourchildren are young.
And then when they're not soyoung anymore, that spirit guide
will go and help somebody else.
And they're souls that we didnot know, they're not the same
as guardian angels, they'resouls that we did not know on
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earth.
But when we cross back over,we'll know them immediately.
And the only direct, I'll say,interaction that I had with one
of my spirit guides happenedthrough a dream, and it was just
so powerful.
And it was occurring during thatfour years when my mother in law
and my deceased relatives werestarting to show me a little bit
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at a time what the universe isabout.
And so, at this one particulartime, my daughter was, I think,
16 at the time, and so maybe itwas like, 20, 10 or something,
maybe three or four years aftermy mother in law had died.
And I was still learning abouteverything metaphysical.
And I was falling asleep atnight and my daughter came into
me and she said that her friendhad been promoted.
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On the dance team that they hadbeen on the the traveling dance
troupe for the maybe five yearsand now her friend had been
promoted to a, to a higher leveldance troupe.
And I had very mixed feelingsabout that because this was her
good friend and they traveledtogether and they roomed
together and they spent theirfree time together and it was
difficult for me.
To see now my daughter is goingto have to be in a very
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different situation when shetravels, because this girl is on
this, on a different dancegroup.
And so I was struggling withthat and I was falling asleep.
So, cause I was going to sleepthat night.
And so she came into it and shesaid guess what?
Michelle has been promoted,blah, blah, blah, blah.
I didn't know what to say atfirst.
And I'm glad I didn't.
Say anything that upset her moreinstead.
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I just said so what do you thinkabout that?
And she thought for a minute andshe said, well, I'm, I'm very
happy for Michelle.
And I'm glad that I left it openended like that and didn't have
her be in a position where shehad to deal with my feelings
too, so she just worked throughthem on her own.
But as I was falling asleep, Iwas very upset and I was
thinking, okay, tomorrow I'vegot to approach the dance
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teacher.
And I've got to say, can youpromote my daughter, Diana?
Can you promote Diana too?
I mean, they're comparabledancers.
Are they that different?
I mean, they've been togetherfor five years.
They travel together.
We're like, why break So I'mplaying and playing in my head
what I'm going to tell thisdance teacher.
And and then I fell asleep andthe next thing I know it was
like three in the morning, whichis often a time that that the
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other side will help you withdreams two, three, four o'clock
in the morning, they'll comethrough.
So it was about a little bitafter three and I woke up after
this dream.
And usually if it's a dream, ifit's a powerful dream that
you're meant by the other sideto remember, you will wake up
right afterwards.
They will make sure.
That you remember this dream.
So I woke up and, and the dreamwas so fresh in my head that I
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ran to my closet and wrote downwhat my spirit guide had told
me.
So it was very, very fresh.
But what had happened was thisfellow came to me and In my
book, I sort of said he was, helooked to me to be maybe in his
30s or 40s, he had straightbrown hair, he had a, a fur tie
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clasp, fur vest on, and I didn'twrite it in the book, but he
looked like Keanu Reeves, that'swhat he looked like to me, like
very pointed, dark eyes, and hejust stared at me, and he said,
drop it, really forceful, and Iwas just like, What?
And now I was, it was notverbal, the discussion, but it
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was telepathic, but he said,definitely said, drop it.
And I was like, what?
I didn't know what he meant.
And I'm looking in his eyes, andI knew he was from the same
place that my mother in law wasfrom.
I knew that he was from theother side.
At, the time the dream washappening and he said it again,
drop it.
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And I didn't know what he meant.
And so I looked at him with abig question mark on my face.
It was a big question mark.
And then he, he asked me to lookdown and between him and me,
there was vast, black, infiniteabyss of space, let's say.
And I looked down into what wasthis fast swirling tornado.
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It was like a funnel.
I was looking down into thisfunnel, and it was spinning so
fast.
So it was like looking in downinto the inside of a tornado.
And I've seen since thensomething called the Whirlpool
Galaxy, which reminds me of it,although the Whirlpool Galaxy,
when you look at it, is, is itlooks like a flat situation, a
swirl, this was a tunnel kind ofswirl.
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And then he said it drop it.
You cannot recreate the livingspirit and in one split second,
I knew exactly what he meant.
It was unbelievable.
So I went from not knowing toknowing and what he meant was
that swirl.
is all of the souls of theuniverse, the ones on earth, the
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ones not on earth, your spiritguides any dimension.
It's every soul of the universeand it's swirling forward.
It's the living spirit, all ofus together, and it's moving so
fast.
And no matter what we do, Howmuch we want to, the force is so
great that we can't turn it backa notch.
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We can't because it's not justme.
It's not just you.
It's all of us all togethermoving forward, forward,
forward.
The force is so strong.
So I knew exactly what he meant.
I can't go back.
I can't.
I can't.
There's nothing I can do tochange what occurred.
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I've got to move forward.
I have no option.
And then I thought to myself,this is what grief is made of
grief is always trying to say Iwish I could.
I wish something else.
I wish I had what I had before.
I wish my deceased loved one wasstill with me.
I wish I was still able to hugthis person.
I wish I was still young.
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I wish I was still thin the wayI was young, whatever.
So it's like wanting to.
Recreate the living spirit andhis message was, you cannot
recreate the living spirit.
Like even if things haven'tchanged for you, they've changed
for millions of other souls.
And that force of the universeis too great for you to think
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that you can recreate something.
So that was his message.
Drop it.
You cannot recreate the livingspirit.
And in that split second, I knewexactly what he meant.
I couldn't go backwards.
My only option was to acceptwhat had occurred and go
forward.
That was my only option.
And so I woke up, ran to thecloset, wrote it down the next
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morning.
I had no qualms, none about mydaughter's friend being promoted
on the dance troupe.
I was.
I was perfectly happy.
My daughter was going to go onin this new, new set of
circumstances and that was theend of things.
I wasn't going to talk to theteacher.
There was no purpose in that.
It was what it was.
And I was very accepting ofeverything.
And the interesting thing is itwas life changing for me because
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from that point in my life on, Ican accept when things change
even when I don't want them to,which is very often, right?
Very easily.
I think.
Very easily I've learned I can'trecreate the living spirit.
I can't go back and changeanything.
I can't recreate it.
We're all connected and it'smoving forward for all of us.
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And that's our obligation torecognize, our responsibility to
recognize.
that we have to move forwardwith new circumstances every
single second of every singleday.
We cannot go back.
We cannot recreate it.
So that was very powerful.
And I, when I woke up, Iimmediately knew he was a spirit
guide.
I knew it.
I just knew it.
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I didn't know whether he's myspirit guide, like for my entire
life here, whether he was justcame to me to show me that I
have no idea.
I don't know if I'll ever seehim again or if I'll never see
him again.
I've never seen him since then.
But I knew he was a spirit guideand I was so grateful, so
grateful.
I mean, throughout, for allthese years, it has just
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changed.
It was life changing.
I can just move on.
With things far easier thanprior to that dream
Megan Mary (21:01):
that's so powerful dreams can be so powerful so
many times I feel like peoplejust think that dreams are
happening in a vacuum.
And that what you'reexperiencing is nonsensical or
non purposeful.
And they really do just hold somuch potential to change our
entire lives.
I mean, that's thetransformational power of them.
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And they really are the doorwayto not just sleep time.
The dream world is not justimagination.
It's really an interdimensionalportal.
In my opinion,
Annette Marinaccio (21:40):
I agree.
And I think sometimes peoplediscount dreams because many, of
course, not all, but many don'tmake sense.
They don't make sense to us.
So you can't piece it together,but even the ones that don't
make sense, if they're notcoming from the other side,
there are aspects to them thatare worth dissecting because
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Even though the entire thread ofthe dream may not make sense, or
there are parts of the dreamthat don't make sense, there are
probably little tidbits in therethat do make sense.
And I learned that during thetime, during those three or four
years, because I'm very, veryleft brain dominant.
My brain is very analytical,computer like.
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I've tried meditating.
For years, I meditated.
I was hoping to see the otherside.
I wasn't able to do that.
I'm just very left braindominant.
So the easiest way for the otherside to come through to me when
I needed to learn about what Ineeded to learn about was really
dreams and signs because signswould be something outside of
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me.
I didn't have to process it inmy brain, right?
So something outside of me, andthen I would just see it and
understand it, or dreams becauseI could get through to me.
In the evening, because yourbrainwaves are different in the
evening, so easier for them toget through to me.
So I had several dream downloadswhen I had to learn.
It's interesting because after Iwrote the book my, my friend
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said to me Oh, your mother inlaw must have been such a strong
person because she started me onthis journey.
And I said, she was strong, butI don't know that she was so
much stronger than everybodyelse.
And then she said, well, youmust've been so close, the two
of you.
And I was like, we were close.
You know, I definitely loved,loved her.
And I know sometimes people havenot great relationships with
their in laws, but we had agreat relationship.
So But I don't know that we wereso much closer than she's closer
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than anybody else.
Then my friend said, well, whydid she pick you to come through
to?
And I was like, I don't know.
And then she thought about itand she came back like an hour
later.
And she said, I know why,because she knew you'd write a
book.
She knew you'd share it.
And I was like, you know, that'strue.
Because in that three years, Iwas, So entrenched in learning
everything metaphysical and, andgetting my head around it and,
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and summarizing it.
Because I felt like I wanted itin a digestible format that
could be here after I'm gone.
Somebody picks up this book, theaspects of it still pertain.
So so at any rate, I was like,that's true.
And I think my spirit guides andmy deceased loved ones knew
that.
And so during that time period,they spent time getting through
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to me.
But now I'm just very in tune toit.
So The other day, I was goingout to eat with some friends and
while I was driving there, thelicense plate in front of me was
a very clear message, said aword, very clear message for
somebody that I was meetingwith.
So I just snapped a picture ofit.
And when I got there, I waslike, hey Margaret, saying hello
to you because I knew who it wascoming from.
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And so now I'm very in tune toit, but I needed during that
time period, I needed the otherside to communicate to me as
best they could.
And it was signs because thosewere physical and I could see
them and and dreams for the mostpart.
Megan Mary (24:55):
Yes, and I think those are so accessible to
everybody.
Everybody dreams every night,even if you think you don't.
And even if you don't rememberthem, they're there for you.
And the synchronicities duringthe day, I mean, they're there
too.
You just have to notice them.
And I feel the same way.
I'm the, Writer in the family.
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I have a mother in law that'spassed as well, my father as
well.
And so I really am the one thatwill write about it, and that
will try to get everyone else tounderstand that that's not the
end, that we are just spiritshaving a human experience is
what I always say and thatthere's spirits around us all
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the time and people just don'twant to accept that.
It's a little bit destabilizing.
It carries a lot of stigma.
They don't really know how tointegrate that, the other world
with this world.
It doesn't seem scientificallyproven, which actually brings me
to, you said that youparticipate in an organization
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that is doing that work.
Annette Marinaccio (25:59):
That's true forever family foundation.
So I am very active in theforever family foundation on the
board and I help with all theevents and, I connected with
them in 2007 after my mother inlaw had died.
And the organization was startedby a couple who happened,
although it's an internationalorganization, they happen to
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live a half hour from me.
So I went to a couple of theirsessions initially, and I was
just enamored because They werevery practical and they were
trying to scientifically provethat there's an afterlife after
the loss of their then 14 yearold daughter.
So, because the daughter startedcoming through and they just
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were, you know, similar to whatI was going through.
Let's see if we can prove this.
And so I am.
really honored to just be partof that organization.
It helps a lot of people ingrief.
I sort of say there are like twooverall arching types of grief.
One is for people who don'tbelieve that we go on.
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Very difficult to pull out ofthat when you lose somebody, if
you really think that that's it.
But there is still another veryvalid grief process for people
who understand you go on and youget messages from the other
side, even, but you're not goingto and you'll see them when you
get to the other side, butyou're never going to have the
same relationship that you hadhere.
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You can't hold them, you can'tspeak with them the way you used
to.
So there's still grief involvedeven after you know that, you'll
Connect with them again, and youcan connect with them now, but
you're still not going to havewhat you had before.
Can't recreate that livingspirit.
So there's still that griefalso, but this organization
really is centered aroundhelping people.
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Connect with their loved onesand understand that their loved
ones still go on.
So there's a lot of greatliterature on the Forever Family
Foundation website.
Whether we were part of theSurviving Death series, there's
a Netflix series, SurvivingDeath.
There were six episodes.
Great, the fourth episode we'refeatured in.
We also have.
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information on EVP, electronicvoice phenomenon, where we can
really you, you leave your, yourtelephone out and ask a question
same time every day and you, andthen play it back on your
computer.
And you, sometimes you can getthe other side actually saying
things.
And we have great, my book is arecommended read, but there are
a lot of books on there that aregreat recommended reads for all
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different types of people.
So, and then we hold.
Grief retreats, which arequarterly, we do them quarterly.
We limit it to about 50 people,which is difficult because every
single time there's a waitinglist of like 180 people.
But we try and limit it to getthe best experience out there.
And it's a very immersiveweekend where you've got
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counselors there, psychiatrists,psychologists social workers and
mediums.
So the mediums bring throughspirit.
And and then we usually havelike a metaphysical practitioner
or something like that too.
So, but it's a very immersiveweekend, and it's, that's a
really life changing weekend.
People walk out of that justtransformed.
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And so I love that.
I love helping.
So and my, the founders, thecouple that are founders.
Phran is P H R A N, she died in2020 and so she's now on the
other side, so she actually hascome through with me in my
dreams a couple of times to helpme think things through with
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with the conferences and thingslike that, so that's really
cool, and the I actually Ididn't want to have to publish
my book, but I ended uppublishing my book and the name
of the company is InphiniteLumen.
I, it's my company, but I madePH in honor of Fran, Inphinite
Lumen PH, and then Lumen, mymother in law's name was
Lucille.
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So Lumen, and I will say thatthe physical similarities
between my mother in law who ledme to Phran and Bob and Phran
are, are really striking.
So even when my husband met, andmy mother in law also died of
pancreatic cancer, same age, 10years, I know it's just, but
when I first met and introducedmy husband to Phran, it was
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just.
Years ago, my husband said afterwe met, he said, does she remind
you of anyone?
I was like yes, your mom.
so, all connected.
So I know that they're also sortof helping on the other side.
I said, I didn't want to selfpublish because I'm not really,
I'm a numbers person.
I like the whole reading,writing thing.
It's not really my thing.
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I can't even believe I wrote abook, but I read all those
books.
But after I wrote the book, Isent it to 30.
Publishers and publishingcompanies and 30 agents and I
was like, I'll see where itgoes.
I had 3, 1 agent and 2publishers get back to me and
say, Oh, we, like your book.
We'd like to represent you.
And then they gave me contractsand I love contracts, I deal
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with contracts at work all thetime, but this was a little
intimidating to me because it'slike your own property,
proprietary, I don't know.
So I actually hired someone who,I mentioned my acknowledgements
along with Phran Karen Garvey,she's an intuitive person on
Long Island, and I hired her totap into my spirit guides, since
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I'm not very adept at that, andto ask which of the three offers
I should go with.
And so she did that and shesaid, none of them you're
supposed to self publish.
And I was like, really, youknow, I got to go through that
whole thing.
So then I had to learn aboutpublishing a book, which was.
A whole other McGilla, but theway the universe works, the
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first copy was printed on mymother in law's birthday.
So if I hadn't done that, itprobably wouldn't have been that
way.
Megan Mary (31:49):
Oh, perfect.
Isn't it just so perfect?
Annette Marinaccio (31:53):
Right.
So anyway, yeah.
Megan Mary (31:55):
That's wonderful.
Wow.
Well, for people that want tolearn more about you and want to
check out your book, where canthey find you?
So I have a, a website.
It's the annette marinaccio.
com.
Also, my book is on Amazon andBarnes and Noble and all that,
but what I do on my website is Ipost all the interviews.
And so
Annette Marinaccio (32:15):
what I tell people too, is when you look at
the people who are interviewingme like you, then go to their.
Site and see the other peoplethey've interviewed, because if
you want to experience themetaphysical world in a big way
and really learn about it,there's not only my half hour or
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1 hour interview, but the host.
Interviews people from all, youknow, whether it's a near death
experience or an outer bodyexperience or automatic writing
it's infinite, the amount ofinformation that you can gather.
So I right now if anybody askedme to do anything for my book,
I'm there.
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I'm like, no problem.
And so, and then I put it onthat website and it's a great
wealth of information foranybody that wants to learn
about metaphysical.
And, and my book is on theretoo.
It's, also, an electronic Kindleand audio, I did an audio book
too.
I had to learn that thing.
I got it.
I hired a narrator oh yes.
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Yeah, so I'm going to be tappingyou for all that information.
Oh yeah, yeah, when your bookcomes out, absolutely.
It was crazy.
I mean, I always said, again,I'm not a book person, but I
always said if I ever writeanother book, which I don't
intend to, because I puteverything I need to in that one
book.
It will be on how to write abook.
That was another unbelievable,fascinating journey.
Megan Mary (33:45):
Yes, I'm sure.
Well, thank you so much forbeing here today and sharing
your journey and just everythingyou discovered and everything
that you're doing now.
I know it'll really resonatewith our listeners and I really
hope that it will encourage themto explore the unseen world
further and really consider theother possibilities and what
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we've discussed.
Annette Marinaccio (34:10):
Yep.
That's absolutely great.
Thank you so much for having me.
It was a pleasure.
Awesome.
Thank you.
Annette.
Welcome.
Today, we have AnnetteMarinaccio.
She is a certified publicaccountant, an accomplished
healthcare executive, and theauthor of Your Soul Focus.
Her mother in law led Annette ona path after she died to prove
to her that there is anafterlife.
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After understanding that theafterlife is existent, Annette
learned how intricate andextensive our souls and our
journeys are.
The information that Annette hasaccumulated and conveyed has a
clear and deep benefit to othersduring their times of need, you.
grief, or curiosity, and yoursoul focus will pass that
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knowledge onto you.
Your soul focus has beenendorsed by three Long Island
mediums with a public presence.
It has reached number one onAmazon three times.
It has dozens of five starreviews.
A chapter was included in aSaturday Night Live skit, and
most importantly, it has broughtcomfort and inspiration to
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thousands of readers.
Welcome, Annette!
Annette Marinaccio (01:07):
Thank you so much for having me, Megan.
Thank you
Megan Mary (01:09):
so wonderful to have you here and hear your
experience.
I love sharing stories of otherwomen who come from all
different walks of life and findout that there is an unseen
world.
That is really the realm that Ilike to dwell in and I love
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opening up that world to otherpeople and I love hearing
everyone's story about how theydiscovered it.
So thank you for being willingto share your story.
Annette Marinaccio (01:43):
Thank you.
Megan Mary (01:44):
So my first question that I ask everybody on the show
is, what does enlightenment meanto you?
Annette Marinaccio (01:50):
That's a great question.
For me, when I hear the wordenlightenment, I automatically
think of waking up, awake ormore light.
And so I think that most peoplethroughout their earthly life
are on a trajectory to beenlightened a little bit as they
go.
And so to some extent, somepeople get enlightened very
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early on.
Some people, it takes a littlebit more time and maybe some
people never get there, but itis certainly the opening of your
soul to let light in.
That's what I think of when Ithink of enlightenment.
Megan Mary (02:25):
I completely agree and that works so perfect
because the intro to the show asthe listeners know as I say
let's bring in the light,because that's really what to me
it is as well.
Light is all of the spiritualenergy around us, right?
And the 3D versus the 4D or the5D is that density of that
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frequency and the amount oflight that we are actually
aligned with.
Or not,
Annette Marinaccio (02:54):
that's true.
And I, I like to sometimes ifpeople say, what is it like to
be on the other side or how cana soul be in more than one place
at once meaning visiting, mysister at the same time that
they're visiting me.
And I always say, just think oflight, light is, can be many
places at once, it travels veryfar, very fast.
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It's very vast.
And so I think that that's whatwe are.
Once we shed these physicalbodies, we're like a light
energy.
Megan Mary (03:26):
Mm hmm.
For sure.
So tell the listeners a littlebit about how you went from
healthcare executive and CPA towriting a book about the
afterlife.
Annette Marinaccio (03:39):
Sure.
And, and I still am a CPA and,and a healthcare executive and I
love that.
I I really enjoy my work.
But after my mother in law died,which was 2006, she became very
intent on proving to me that shewas still here, that we go on
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after we die.
And I, I don't know that I wouldsay I was skeptical, I just
really had never thought aboutit that much, and so once I
accepted the fact that she isstill with us, even though she
crossed, I was then veryobsessed.
I was like, wait a minute.
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If we go on, this was my onequestion.
If we go on, what are we doinghere?
Like, I don't understand theconnection between there and
here.
And so I felt very much like anaccountant.
I needed to understand that.
I mean, that's just a way I.
I work.
That's the way I am at work.
It's the way I am at home.
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So I was like, I need tounderstand this.
So I then spent four yearsresearching everything
metaphysical.
I just needed to reallyunderstand, okay, I get it.
You're still here.
Why?
Why?
Then why am I here?
And you're there.
I don't get it.
And so once I really had a goodhandle on sort of how the
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universe works to a largerextent, which took about four
years.
I then was very satisfied and Isort of stopped and thought,
okay, I'll just live my life alittle bit differently.
I have this deep knowledge andit.
It will help me in all walks oflife.
And so I just sort of stoppedbeing obsessed with the
metaphysical.
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And then as the universe wouldhave it, I was placed in the
path of people throughout thenext three or so years that
really would benefit from apiece of what I had learned.
So whether it was a coworkergoing through some horrible
grief situation or someonescratching their head about why
something was happening in theuniverse, the way it was
happening.
And I was like, Oh, I.
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I can figure that out because I,what I had learned, or I know
what's happening here, or haveyou seen the signs from your
mother or whatever?
And then after about three yearsof that and, and people saying
to me, Oh my goodness, that wasso eyeopening to me or life
changing.
You changed my life and I'm notlike a doctor or a nurse.
I'm an accountant, so I'm notused to getting that kind of
feedback that I've.
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Changed somebody's life.
So that was like great feedbackfor me.
And then I was like, you know,something, I think I'm supposed
to put this in a book because Ican really synthesize everything
I've learned into a really likedigestible usable format so that
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And an everyday person can pickit up and say, oh, I didn't
think of it that way.
Oh, I didn't realize that.
Oh, and so that's what I did.
And so I put that book out andI'm glad I did.
I knew when I.
Put it out that it would have anenergy of its own and and it
does so, that's sort of crossedover from just the 3d world to
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understanding the universe moreand still living in the 3d
world,
Megan Mary (06:58):
yes, and I love how you were still able to have one
foot in each world and thatyou've found a way to integrate
what you've learned and still.
Exist in that other world,partly because, like you said,
you're needed in that world.
So the other people that werecoming around you that were
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looking for the guidance andyour experience could help them
is it really answers thatquestion.
But why are you there and I'mhere.
Annette Marinaccio (07:29):
Right.
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
And the more people we help oneon one one to many people, but
the more people we help to opentheir eyes or their heart or
their soul to the fact that Thisearthly life is just really a
sliver of what we're reallyabout.
I think that it's better off forall of us.
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So I also learned early on whenI first put the book out that
sharing, which is what youmentioned at the beginning,
sharing, sharing is veryimportant.
So I'm all happy to share at anypoint, anytime anybody wants me
to talk about it.
I can talk about the afterlifefor a very long time.
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I can also talk about.
Physician compensation andcontracting, but those two
topics I can speak about for avery long time because they
really interest me and I love toshare.
Megan Mary (08:23):
It's what lights you up and that's what you should
share.
Yes.
It's the power of suggestion.
So many times when you start totalk about something when you
bring a topic to the fore.
That people aren't used totalking about.
Sometimes there'll beresistance, but more than often
it's, wow, that's sointeresting.
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I never thought about that,which is what I get a lot.
Cause a lot of people just don'tthink about their dreams.
Don't think they're important.
Don't understand why you wouldand have never heard of what I
do and don't understand thebenefit of it.
They might say, well, why wouldwe do that?
Well, what's the benefit?
And so it's really pulling themout from where they are to gain
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a greater appreciation of theirexperience here.
Annette Marinaccio (09:15):
That's true.
And, and once I had that betterunderstanding about the
universe, it did help me even inmy work, my career just take a
different approach.
attitude about the people that Iwork with every day.
And and so that was very helpfultoo, just having both of those
aspects of my interest andpersonality, having them be
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aligned.
Megan Mary (09:40):
I love talking about synchronicities because that is
something that I experiencedaily and follow and the more
you follow them, the more theyhappen and I know that you've
experienced that as well on yourjourney.
Annette Marinaccio (09:56):
That's true.
I mean the entire, beginning ofmy eyes being open was a series
of synchronicities.
My mother in law she leftbreadcrumbs.
So she was like a littlesynchronicity, a little
breadcrumb, a little breadcrumb,and then when you put it all
together, you have a beautiful,Brioche loaf of bread, but she
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really left those breadcrumbs,which was a series of
synchronicities to help me openmy eyes.
And because I'm an accountant, Ithink the other side, cause she
enlisted my deceased relativesand my spirit guides, which at
the beginning of this, I didn'twant to have to believe in
spirit guides, but now Iunderstand they exist.
That seemed a little bit outthere for me, but now I
understand it's, it's part ofit.
But they really.
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Fed me the information about theother side, like a morsel at a
time, because they knew that myaccounting brain was not going
to just, you know, all of asudden embrace the possibility
that we go on.
So I needed really to, to bespoon fed a little bit at a
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time.
And then even after I acceptedthat we go on, they spoon fed
me.
Information about how theuniverse works just a little bit
at a time.
So I was able to sort of pick upa piece and pick up a piece and
pick up another piece until Ifelt very comfortable that I
understand.
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I can understand the universenow.
I can understand why thingshappen.
It's not so foreign to meanymore
Megan Mary (11:28):
It's a wonderful perspective to gain and, and to
share and I love following thembecause I find that they just
appear more and more and morewhen you do.
But for the people that arelistening who say spirit guide,
what is that?
And because you have come fromthe other side of the very
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structured scientific side,explain to the listeners how you
came to accept that, tounderstand that in a way that's
accessible, like you said.
Annette Marinaccio (12:02):
So with spirit guides, to learn about
spirit guides, I did a lot ofreading just to learn about the
metaphysical A lot of what Iread did not resonate with me or
didn't make sense, but a lot ofwhat I read did.
And so what I learned withspirit guides is that we have
many of them and some guide usfor our entire life, but many
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are, are with us for a portionof our life.
So for instance, if we haveyoung children, maybe this
spirit guide is with us when ourchildren are young.
And then when they're not soyoung anymore, that spirit guide
will go and help somebody else.
And they're souls that we didnot know, they're not the same
as guardian angels, they'resouls that we did not know on
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earth.
But when we cross back over,we'll know them immediately.
And the only direct, I'll say,interaction that I had with one
of my spirit guides happenedthrough a dream, and it was just
so powerful.
And it was occurring during thatfour years when my mother in law
and my deceased relatives werestarting to show me a little bit
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at a time what the universe isabout.
And so, at this one particulartime, my daughter was, I think,
16 at the time, and so maybe itwas like, 20, 10 or something,
maybe three or four years aftermy mother in law had died.
And I was still learning abouteverything metaphysical.
And I was falling asleep atnight and my daughter came into
me and she said that her friendhad been promoted.
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On the dance team that they hadbeen on the the traveling dance
troupe for the maybe five yearsand now her friend had been
promoted to a, to a higher leveldance troupe.
And I had very mixed feelingsabout that because this was her
good friend and they traveledtogether and they roomed
together and they spent theirfree time together and it was
difficult for me.
To see now my daughter is goingto have to be in a very
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different situation when shetravels, because this girl is on
this, on a different dancegroup.
And so I was struggling withthat and I was falling asleep.
So, cause I was going to sleepthat night.
And so she came into it and shesaid guess what?
Michelle has been promoted,blah, blah, blah, blah.
I didn't know what to say atfirst.
And I'm glad I didn't.
Say anything that upset her moreinstead.
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I just said so what do you thinkabout that?
And she thought for a minute andshe said, well, I'm, I'm very
happy for Michelle.
And I'm glad that I left it openended like that and didn't have
her be in a position where shehad to deal with my feelings
too, so she just worked throughthem on her own.
But as I was falling asleep, Iwas very upset and I was
thinking, okay, tomorrow I'vegot to approach the dance
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teacher.
And I've got to say, can youpromote my daughter, Diana?
Can you promote Diana too?
I mean, they're comparabledancers.
Are they that different?
I mean, they've been togetherfor five years.
They travel together.
We're like, why break So I'mplaying and playing in my head
what I'm going to tell thisdance teacher.
And and then I fell asleep andthe next thing I know it was
like three in the morning, whichis often a time that that the
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other side will help you withdreams two, three, four o'clock
in the morning, they'll comethrough.
So it was about a little bitafter three and I woke up after
this dream.
And usually if it's a dream, ifit's a powerful dream that
you're meant by the other sideto remember, you will wake up
right afterwards.
They will make sure.
That you remember this dream.
So I woke up and, and the dreamwas so fresh in my head that I
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ran to my closet and wrote downwhat my spirit guide had told
me.
So it was very, very fresh.
But what had happened was thisfellow came to me and In my
book, I sort of said he was, helooked to me to be maybe in his
30s or 40s, he had straightbrown hair, he had a, a fur tie
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clasp, fur vest on, and I didn'twrite it in the book, but he
looked like Keanu Reeves, that'swhat he looked like to me, like
very pointed, dark eyes, and hejust stared at me, and he said,
drop it, really forceful, and Iwas just like, What?
And now I was, it was notverbal, the discussion, but it
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was telepathic, but he said,definitely said, drop it.
And I was like, what?
I didn't know what he meant.
And I'm looking in his eyes, andI knew he was from the same
place that my mother in law wasfrom.
I knew that he was from theother side.
At, the time the dream washappening and he said it again,
drop it.
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And I didn't know what he meant.
And so I looked at him with abig question mark on my face.
It was a big question mark.
And then he, he asked me to lookdown and between him and me,
there was vast, black, infiniteabyss of space, let's say.
And I looked down into what wasthis fast swirling tornado.
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It was like a funnel.
I was looking down into thisfunnel, and it was spinning so
fast.
So it was like looking in downinto the inside of a tornado.
And I've seen since thensomething called the Whirlpool
Galaxy, which reminds me of it,although the Whirlpool Galaxy,
when you look at it, is, is itlooks like a flat situation, a
swirl, this was a tunnel kind ofswirl.
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And then he said it drop it.
You cannot recreate the livingspirit and in one split second,
I knew exactly what he meant.
It was unbelievable.
So I went from not knowing toknowing and what he meant was
that swirl.
is all of the souls of theuniverse, the ones on earth, the
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ones not on earth, your spiritguides any dimension.
It's every soul of the universeand it's swirling forward.
It's the living spirit, all ofus together, and it's moving so
fast.
And no matter what we do, Howmuch we want to, the force is so
great that we can't turn it backa notch.
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We can't because it's not justme.
It's not just you.
It's all of us all togethermoving forward, forward,
forward.
The force is so strong.
So I knew exactly what he meant.
I can't go back.
I can't.
I can't.
There's nothing I can do tochange what occurred.
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I've got to move forward.
I have no option.
And then I thought to myself,this is what grief is made of
grief is always trying to say Iwish I could.
I wish something else.
I wish I had what I had before.
I wish my deceased loved one wasstill with me.
I wish I was still able to hugthis person.
I wish I was still young.
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I wish I was still thin the wayI was young, whatever.
So it's like wanting to.
Recreate the living spirit andhis message was, you cannot
recreate the living spirit.
Like even if things haven'tchanged for you, they've changed
for millions of other souls.
And that force of the universeis too great for you to think
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that you can recreate something.
So that was his message.
Drop it.
You cannot recreate the livingspirit.
And in that split second, I knewexactly what he meant.
I couldn't go backwards.
My only option was to acceptwhat had occurred and go
forward.
That was my only option.
And so I woke up, ran to thecloset, wrote it down the next
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morning.
I had no qualms, none about mydaughter's friend being promoted
on the dance troupe.
I was.
I was perfectly happy.
My daughter was going to go onin this new, new set of
circumstances and that was theend of things.
I wasn't going to talk to theteacher.
There was no purpose in that.
It was what it was.
And I was very accepting ofeverything.
And the interesting thing is itwas life changing for me because
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from that point in my life on, Ican accept when things change
even when I don't want them to,which is very often, right?
Very easily.
I think.
Very easily I've learned I can'trecreate the living spirit.
I can't go back and changeanything.
I can't recreate it.
We're all connected and it'smoving forward for all of us.
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And that's our obligation torecognize, our responsibility to
recognize.
that we have to move forwardwith new circumstances every
single second of every singleday.
We cannot go back.
We cannot recreate it.
So that was very powerful.
And I, when I woke up, Iimmediately knew he was a spirit
guide.
I knew it.
I just knew it.
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I didn't know whether he's myspirit guide, like for my entire
life here, whether he was justcame to me to show me that I
have no idea.
I don't know if I'll ever seehim again or if I'll never see
him again.
I've never seen him since then.
But I knew he was a spirit guideand I was so grateful, so
grateful.
I mean, throughout, for allthese years, it has just
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changed.
It was life changing.
I can just move on.
With things far easier thanprior to that dream
Megan Mary (21:01):
that's so powerful dreams can be so powerful so
many times I feel like peoplejust think that dreams are
happening in a vacuum.
And that what you'reexperiencing is nonsensical or
non purposeful.
And they really do just hold somuch potential to change our
entire lives.
I mean, that's thetransformational power of them.
(21:25):
And they really are the doorwayto not just sleep time.
The dream world is not justimagination.
It's really an interdimensionalportal.
In my opinion,
Annette Marinaccio (21:40):
I agree.
And I think sometimes peoplediscount dreams because many, of
course, not all, but many don'tmake sense.
They don't make sense to us.
So you can't piece it together,but even the ones that don't
make sense, if they're notcoming from the other side,
there are aspects to them thatare worth dissecting because
(22:00):
Even though the entire thread ofthe dream may not make sense, or
there are parts of the dreamthat don't make sense, there are
probably little tidbits in therethat do make sense.
And I learned that during thetime, during those three or four
years, because I'm very, veryleft brain dominant.
My brain is very analytical,computer like.
(22:21):
I've tried meditating.
For years, I meditated.
I was hoping to see the otherside.
I wasn't able to do that.
I'm just very left braindominant.
So the easiest way for the otherside to come through to me when
I needed to learn about what Ineeded to learn about was really
dreams and signs because signswould be something outside of
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me.
I didn't have to process it inmy brain, right?
So something outside of me, andthen I would just see it and
understand it, or dreams becauseI could get through to me.
In the evening, because yourbrainwaves are different in the
evening, so easier for them toget through to me.
So I had several dream downloadswhen I had to learn.
It's interesting because after Iwrote the book my, my friend
(23:07):
said to me Oh, your mother inlaw must have been such a strong
person because she started me onthis journey.
And I said, she was strong, butI don't know that she was so
much stronger than everybodyelse.
And then she said, well, youmust've been so close, the two
of you.
And I was like, we were close.
You know, I definitely loved,loved her.
And I know sometimes people havenot great relationships with
their in laws, but we had agreat relationship.
So But I don't know that we wereso much closer than she's closer
(23:30):
than anybody else.
Then my friend said, well, whydid she pick you to come through
to?
And I was like, I don't know.
And then she thought about itand she came back like an hour
later.
And she said, I know why,because she knew you'd write a
book.
She knew you'd share it.
And I was like, you know, that'strue.
Because in that three years, Iwas, So entrenched in learning
everything metaphysical and, andgetting my head around it and,
(23:53):
and summarizing it.
Because I felt like I wanted itin a digestible format that
could be here after I'm gone.
Somebody picks up this book, theaspects of it still pertain.
So so at any rate, I was like,that's true.
And I think my spirit guides andmy deceased loved ones knew
that.
And so during that time period,they spent time getting through
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to me.
But now I'm just very in tune toit.
So The other day, I was goingout to eat with some friends and
while I was driving there, thelicense plate in front of me was
a very clear message, said aword, very clear message for
somebody that I was meetingwith.
So I just snapped a picture ofit.
And when I got there, I waslike, hey Margaret, saying hello
to you because I knew who it wascoming from.
(24:37):
And so now I'm very in tune toit, but I needed during that
time period, I needed the otherside to communicate to me as
best they could.
And it was signs because thosewere physical and I could see
them and and dreams for the mostpart.
Megan Mary (24:55):
Yes, and I think those are so accessible to
everybody.
Everybody dreams every night,even if you think you don't.
And even if you don't rememberthem, they're there for you.
And the synchronicities duringthe day, I mean, they're there
too.
You just have to notice them.
And I feel the same way.
I'm the, Writer in the family.
(25:15):
I have a mother in law that'spassed as well, my father as
well.
And so I really am the one thatwill write about it, and that
will try to get everyone else tounderstand that that's not the
end, that we are just spiritshaving a human experience is
what I always say and thatthere's spirits around us all
(25:35):
the time and people just don'twant to accept that.
It's a little bit destabilizing.
It carries a lot of stigma.
They don't really know how tointegrate that, the other world
with this world.
It doesn't seem scientificallyproven, which actually brings me
to, you said that youparticipate in an organization
(25:56):
that is doing that work.
Annette Marinaccio (25:59):
That's true forever family foundation.
So I am very active in theforever family foundation on the
board and I help with all theevents and, I connected with
them in 2007 after my mother inlaw had died.
And the organization was startedby a couple who happened,
although it's an internationalorganization, they happen to
(26:19):
live a half hour from me.
So I went to a couple of theirsessions initially, and I was
just enamored because They werevery practical and they were
trying to scientifically provethat there's an afterlife after
the loss of their then 14 yearold daughter.
So, because the daughter startedcoming through and they just
(26:40):
were, you know, similar to whatI was going through.
Let's see if we can prove this.
And so I am.
really honored to just be partof that organization.
It helps a lot of people ingrief.
I sort of say there are like twooverall arching types of grief.
One is for people who don'tbelieve that we go on.
(27:00):
Very difficult to pull out ofthat when you lose somebody, if
you really think that that's it.
But there is still another veryvalid grief process for people
who understand you go on and youget messages from the other
side, even, but you're not goingto and you'll see them when you
get to the other side, butyou're never going to have the
same relationship that you hadhere.
(27:21):
You can't hold them, you can'tspeak with them the way you used
to.
So there's still grief involvedeven after you know that, you'll
Connect with them again, and youcan connect with them now, but
you're still not going to havewhat you had before.
Can't recreate that livingspirit.
So there's still that griefalso, but this organization
really is centered aroundhelping people.
(27:45):
Connect with their loved onesand understand that their loved
ones still go on.
So there's a lot of greatliterature on the Forever Family
Foundation website.
Whether we were part of theSurviving Death series, there's
a Netflix series, SurvivingDeath.
There were six episodes.
Great, the fourth episode we'refeatured in.
We also have.
(28:06):
information on EVP, electronicvoice phenomenon, where we can
really you, you leave your, yourtelephone out and ask a question
same time every day and you, andthen play it back on your
computer.
And you, sometimes you can getthe other side actually saying
things.
And we have great, my book is arecommended read, but there are
a lot of books on there that aregreat recommended reads for all
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different types of people.
So, and then we hold.
Grief retreats, which arequarterly, we do them quarterly.
We limit it to about 50 people,which is difficult because every
single time there's a waitinglist of like 180 people.
But we try and limit it to getthe best experience out there.
And it's a very immersiveweekend where you've got
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counselors there, psychiatrists,psychologists social workers and
mediums.
So the mediums bring throughspirit.
And and then we usually havelike a metaphysical practitioner
or something like that too.
So, but it's a very immersiveweekend, and it's, that's a
really life changing weekend.
People walk out of that justtransformed.
(29:08):
And so I love that.
I love helping.
So and my, the founders, thecouple that are founders.
Phran is P H R A N, she died in2020 and so she's now on the
other side, so she actually hascome through with me in my
dreams a couple of times to helpme think things through with
(29:31):
with the conferences and thingslike that, so that's really
cool, and the I actually Ididn't want to have to publish
my book, but I ended uppublishing my book and the name
of the company is InphiniteLumen.
I, it's my company, but I madePH in honor of Fran, Inphinite
Lumen PH, and then Lumen, mymother in law's name was
Lucille.
(29:53):
So Lumen, and I will say thatthe physical similarities
between my mother in law who ledme to Phran and Bob and Phran
are, are really striking.
So even when my husband met, andmy mother in law also died of
pancreatic cancer, same age, 10years, I know it's just, but
when I first met and introducedmy husband to Phran, it was
(30:16):
just.
Years ago, my husband said afterwe met, he said, does she remind
you of anyone?
I was like yes, your mom.
so, all connected.
So I know that they're also sortof helping on the other side.
I said, I didn't want to selfpublish because I'm not really,
I'm a numbers person.
I like the whole reading,writing thing.
It's not really my thing.
(30:37):
I can't even believe I wrote abook, but I read all those
books.
But after I wrote the book, Isent it to 30.
Publishers and publishingcompanies and 30 agents and I
was like, I'll see where itgoes.
I had 3, 1 agent and 2publishers get back to me and
say, Oh, we, like your book.
We'd like to represent you.
And then they gave me contractsand I love contracts, I deal
(30:59):
with contracts at work all thetime, but this was a little
intimidating to me because it'slike your own property,
proprietary, I don't know.
So I actually hired someone who,I mentioned my acknowledgements
along with Phran Karen Garvey,she's an intuitive person on
Long Island, and I hired her totap into my spirit guides, since
(31:19):
I'm not very adept at that, andto ask which of the three offers
I should go with.
And so she did that and shesaid, none of them you're
supposed to self publish.
And I was like, really, youknow, I got to go through that
whole thing.
So then I had to learn aboutpublishing a book, which was.
A whole other McGilla, but theway the universe works, the
(31:42):
first copy was printed on mymother in law's birthday.
So if I hadn't done that, itprobably wouldn't have been that
way.
Megan Mary (31:49):
Oh, perfect.
Isn't it just so perfect?
Annette Marinaccio (31:53):
Right.
So anyway, yeah.
Megan Mary (31:55):
That's wonderful.
Wow.
Well, for people that want tolearn more about you and want to
check out your book, where canthey find you?
So I have a, a website.
It's the annette marinaccio.
com.
Also, my book is on Amazon andBarnes and Noble and all that,
but what I do on my website is Ipost all the interviews.
And so
Annette Marinaccio (32:15):
what I tell people too, is when you look at
the people who are interviewingme like you, then go to their.
Site and see the other peoplethey've interviewed, because if
you want to experience themetaphysical world in a big way
and really learn about it,there's not only my half hour or
(32:38):
1 hour interview, but the host.
Interviews people from all, youknow, whether it's a near death
experience or an outer bodyexperience or automatic writing
it's infinite, the amount ofinformation that you can gather.
So I right now if anybody askedme to do anything for my book,
I'm there.
(32:58):
I'm like, no problem.
And so, and then I put it onthat website and it's a great
wealth of information foranybody that wants to learn
about metaphysical.
And, and my book is on theretoo.
It's, also, an electronic Kindleand audio, I did an audio book
too.
I had to learn that thing.
I got it.
I hired a narrator oh yes.
(33:20):
Yeah, so I'm going to be tappingyou for all that information.
Oh yeah, yeah, when your bookcomes out, absolutely.
It was crazy.
I mean, I always said, again,I'm not a book person, but I
always said if I ever writeanother book, which I don't
intend to, because I puteverything I need to in that one
book.
It will be on how to write abook.
That was another unbelievable,fascinating journey.
Megan Mary (33:45):
Yes, I'm sure.
Well, thank you so much forbeing here today and sharing
your journey and just everythingyou discovered and everything
that you're doing now.
I know it'll really resonatewith our listeners and I really
hope that it will encourage themto explore the unseen world
further and really consider theother possibilities and what
(34:08):
we've discussed.
Annette Marinaccio (34:10):
Yep.
That's absolutely great.
Thank you so much for having me.
It was a pleasure.
Awesome.
Thank you.
Annette.
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