May 8, 2024 • 33 mins
This episode features an insightful conversation with Christina Cannes, a trauma-trained hypnotherapist, nutritionist, and creator of Belief Hacking. Cannes shares her personal journey of overcoming an abusive relationship and trauma through subconscious reprogramming, the importance of nutrition in dealing with trauma, and the concept of enlightenment as a continuous process of self-discovery and awareness. She explains the role of dreams in healing, her approach to helping others through belief hacking, and offers advice on fostering creativity and avoiding the negative impacts of mainstream media. Cannes also touches on her upcoming book focused on creativity and past lives, emphasizing the need for a holistic approach to trauma that addresses both mental and physical aspects.
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Megan Mary (00:00):
Welcome.
Today we have Christina Cannes.
She is a trauma trainedhypnotherapist, nutritionist,
and the creator of BeliefHacking.
She helps entrepreneurs,business owners, and creatives
uplevel their life and businessusing subconscious
reprogramming.
(00:21):
Welcome, Christina.
Christina Cannes (00:23):
Thank you.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to be here.
Megan Mary (00:26):
Yes, I'm so glad to have you here.
I find what you do reallyinteresting your combination of
trauma work with nutrition.
I feel like that combination israre to find together and I
can't wait to share that withour listeners today.
Christina Cannes (00:42):
Yes, it is.
It's funny that it's rarebecause it's actually really
important and really impactful.
Megan Mary (00:47):
Yes.
Yes, and we will find out howmuch one of my first questions
that I ask everyone is what doesenlightenment mean to you?
Christina Cannes (00:57):
That's a really good question because
it's a very Mysterious wordenlightenment.
For me personally, I thinkenlightenment is I just consider
it more awareness.
Based on what I know of life andwhy we're here.
It seems to be that we are allon or should be a mission of
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enlightenment.
And by that, I mean, justbecoming more aware and
discovering more truth andopening up to more and more
information.
And I think enlightenment isreally important in regards to
your own self and who you are.
I find that people who go on thejourney of self discovery,
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enlightenment is part and parcelof that.
So it's very exciting.
I think it's also a vibratorystate.
If you look at the scales ofconsciousness, it's at the top.
So I don't think it's an end.
Like it's a, it's not really adestination.
It seems to be a continuousjourney.
So even though you reach thisvibratory state of
(02:02):
enlightenment, I still thinkthere's more and more and more,
I don't know if we can everreach the end.
So that's what makes it.
Megan Mary (02:12):
Absolutely.
I couldn't agree more.
It is a journey.
It's, it's not a destination,but I do think it is also, like
you said, a state of being aspart of being in that journey.
And I'd love also that you saidit's about asking questions
because if you're notcontinually seeking, it really
is a part of, I feel to ourexistence.
(02:35):
Our purpose is to continually beseeking and continually be
asking those larger questions,those larger questions.
More profound, deeper questions.
Christina Cannes (02:46):
Like who am I?
Why am I here?
Yes.
Megan Mary (02:52):
Yeah.
Starting with those.
So let's share with ourlisteners about your
enlightenment journey thus far,I want you to share a little bit
about what brought you to do thework that you do as a trauma
trained hypnotherapist andnutritionist.
Christina Cannes (03:07):
Sure.
I think like so many, my, Ithink my journey really kicked
off when I got divorced, I wasin a very abusive relationship
and I lost everything and I hittotal rock bottom.
And the part that frustrated meso much was, is that I was
highly aware that I had a verydifficult childhood and I knew
(03:30):
that I was dealing with trauma.
I didn't really have thevocabulary for it.
And so I was very, Consciouslytrying to avoid creating a
similar situation for myself,because I noticed even at a
young age patterns, patternswithin families, patterns within
people, people repeating things.
And so I was very consciouslyaware of these patterns and
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trying to do things actively inmy life to avoid repeating those
patterns.
Now, the funny part is it'sfunny now, no matter what I did,
I ate healthy, I exercised.
I was educated.
I worked really hard.
I created what looked like,looked like a really perfect
life.
I was very successfulfinancially.
(04:13):
I had my own business traveledhome, beautiful pool, two
beautiful kids.
But, I was in a really abusiverelationship and, and I knew
there was something wrong withme.
I had gone to psychologists andthey just couldn't really figure
out what was up because from theoutside, I presented well and I
(04:33):
was articulate and I understoodthe basics of psychology.
And so no matter what I did, Icould still see myself creating
that childhood.
I tried to escape.
And then finally it all, youknow, went very pear shaped and
became very dangerous.
And, I had to just get out.
But once I was on the otherside, I remember saying, I don't
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want to do this anymore.
If I can't figure out how to notcreate this again, because I was
really scared that I would getinto another relationship or put
myself in situations that turnedout to be really dangerous.
And from that moment on, thingsstarted to unravel.
So what I learned is that traumais not something you can talk
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your way out of necessarily.
A lot of psychologists, I'm notbagging psychologists, I think
they are important and necessarybut cognitive behavior therapy
isn't going to fix your trauma.
Trauma is stored in the body.
It's very, it's very much aphysical manifestation as much
as it is a mental manifestationand uncovering those what I call
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root cause issues.
So those moments in childhood,or even in past lives that set
up that pattern going back andrecognizing that, Oh, That's
what created this later on andclearing that.
And what I do is I reprogram it.
That's what for me had thebiggest, what I call return on
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investment, because in myopinion, if you're spending the
money and the time to go seekhelp to heal trauma and to
really fix your life, you wantto return on that investment.
And, there's a lot of things outthere.
I'm not saying that there's one.
solution for trauma.
You kind of have to hit it froma variety of different angles
and it's different for everyone.
But I found that, using hypnosisand going back to that root
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cause issue and also combiningthat with really, with very
specific Dietary the way I waseating made a big impact on on
how I was able to process mytrauma.
Let me just put it that waybecause a lot of the food we
consume or that's considerednormal will actually put us into
a state of fight or flight.
It's really difficult to processtrauma.
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If your body is experiencinganxiety or in fight or flight
so.
The more you can do to calm yourbody and actually learn what
safety and calm feels like, thebetter off you're going to be
and the faster you'll be able toprogress.
So that for me was the big aha.
Once I figured out that we'rekind of like computers, we're
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running these programs and theseprograms are not really helping
us and they're creating problemsfor us and we can fix it.
We can go back and literallyreprogram it.
That shifted everything.
And I just started learning asmuch as I could and going and
seeing different practitionersand yeah, it was, it was
amazing.
I mean, I was able to turn areally bad situation into
something really wonderful.
(07:27):
That's helped me and a lot ofother people.
So while I am grateful for it,I'm not a fan of suffering and
not one of those people thatsays, oh, you need to suffer to
learn.
I don't believe that.
So but for whatever reason, thatseems to be how it goes.
Megan Mary (07:40):
Right.
We are a product of ourenvironment, obviously.
And, and sometimes we're drivento, to seek those questions when
we really do have to go throughdifficult times in our lives.
But when we can share those.
experiences with others.
I feel like that's really wherethe gift lies.
It isn't necessarily in thesuffering that we went through,
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but it's what we discovered as aresult of that.
And then sharing that withothers to help them through
theirs.
Christina Cannes (08:14):
For me, I just think suffering is terrible.
And I don't want anyone to haveto do that.
So if I can help you, I I'm ahundred percent here to help
ease that suffering any way Ican what people go on to do once
they feel better.
You know, it's up to them.
Sure.
It could be just for me.
I'd rather I focus oncreativity.
(08:34):
And so I think the more traumayou heal, the more creative you
can be, you can become, and themore the easier it is to really
tap into your creativity.
Creativity meaning your abilityto, I guess, quote, manifest
things.
So not just making a piece ofart, but creating anything.
So I just love seeing people.
Tap into and lean into theirintuition more and be able to
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really push forward and createwhat they want to create.
Because I think the people talkabout flow or health and
wellness.
I think being in that creativestate is what feels.
The most healthy and natural.
And I think a lot of mentalhealth issues could be resolved.
With that more creative, thatcreative focus, like, what do
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you want to make?
What are you here to make?
I think we're, natural creators.
So yeah, so that's my mission isjust to turn on that creativity
for everybody.
Megan Mary (09:27):
Yes.
And that's how you're sharingit.
And it's not so much in allbeing about your story, right?
It's more about what you've,what you've created as a result
of that and sharing that your,your program and your modality
that you've discovered.
And I think that there's so muchin, in functional medicine that
really does look at both ofthose sides of the coin, the
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childhood events, as well as thegut health.
The two things really goingtogether and the body not being
able to process the nutritionwithout having that energetic
alignment, but also thesubconscious wholeness and.
That's so much part ofDreamWorks, too, is unearthing
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those subconscious blockagesthat are very well there from
past lives, childhood, or,whatever we've experienced as
spiritually along our path.
And it's latent, but it'shidden.
And we're carrying it around andboth our, Soul and our body and
(10:33):
our mind, and it really doesblock us from moving forward in
so many ways that we don'trealize.
And once we can uncover those,those blocks and transform them
in a variety of ways, then we'reable to move past that and to
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reprogram and transform that.
block or that belief, whichmight not even have a basis in
reality, it might not even havea foundation, but it's become so
entrenched in our subconsciousthat it's controlling much more
than we know.
(11:16):
So I love your book, healingtrauma with food.
I think that that's a fabulouscombination.
That's so not approached in, inWestern medicine.
And I love what you talked aboutwith the DNA methylation.
And I don't know if you couldsay a little bit more about that
(11:38):
and the impact that nutritioncan have on the healing
capability.
Christina Cannes (11:45):
Yeah, sure.
I think with methylation, it'sfunny now because everyone's
talking about longevity andliving forever and methylation
and how important that processis to longevity.
And that's so true because ifyou do what's called an ace
survey, which is adversechildhood experiences.
If you've taken that and yourscore is high, Then the
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likelihood of you having adisease or experiencing ill
health is also high.
There's a correlation.
So I took that and it was Iscored high and it scared me.
And based on what I'veresearched and the way that I
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eat and approach food is I tryto only consume foods that
support healthy methylation.
So whenever you're dealing withtrauma or even just bad food or,
or negative experiences, theycan, your DNA is highly
reactive.
So it can, it can flip on thegood stuff or it can flip on the
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bad stuff.
And so To put it really simply,the food that I lay out in my
book is really there to supportthe good switch.
So it's, it's supporting thebody to function healthily, to
age well, to avoid thosediseases as much as we possibly
can, and to really calm thenervous system.
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There are a lot of nutrients andDifferent minerals that you
really need in order to supportyour nervous system and keep it
calm.
I think for me, when I do workwith clients, the biggest things
that people can do to improvetheir mental health with diet
are to stop.
(13:31):
Consuming caffeine, because thatjust activates your nervous
system to stop consumingalcohol, because that will
create so many mental healthissues and to give up sugar,
because again, it's an, it's anervous system stimulant, it's
going to make you feel unwell,it's going to turn the bad
switch on.
So.
(13:51):
I know it's hard because ourentire society is built on those
three things, but if you can letthose go and it's easy, it's
basic, it's the nourishingfoods.
It's all about finding whatworks best, what supports the
body, what nourishes the body,and what flips the good switch
on so the DNA is not creatingdisease.
(14:12):
Yes.
Well, I love that approach.
I am a huge nutritional advocatemyself.
And of course, I'm also a reallybig advocate of personal
transformation, so I whollysupport the, the combination of
those two things.
I think it's so often overlookedit's hard enough to get people
to want to.
(14:34):
Do that difficult work ofuncovering the things that are
causing challenges in theirlives, but it's a whole nother
thing to get them to talk aboutthe food that they're consuming
or their lifestyle choices andand those things don't exist in
a vacuum.
And they're also not usuallydiscussed in a, in a medical
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environment.
So combining those things isreally holistically beneficial.
And, just in general, theWestern way that mental health
is approached and the differenteither medications they try and
throw at it or the differentapproaches that they take and
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you're just so vacuum focused onone thing that you're never
looking at the rest of thepicture that is influencing it.
So you really need to have amore integrative approach like
that to get over those humps.
Yeah, it's funny because thebody is a system so isolating
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different parts of the body.
In exactly what you said, itjust makes no sense.
It's a system.
There's no one part without thewhole.
Megan Mary (15:49):
And the next question is what is a commonly
held misconception that youdisagree with in terms of this
work?
Christina Cannes (15:58):
Most common, there's two questions or two
concerns that I, I get hit witha lot when I talk about what I
do.
It's very simple.
I created something calledbelief hacking.
It goes into your subconsciousand identifies the root cause
issue and we clear it and thenreprogram it.
And then we support that withaligned action and, repeating
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that new belief so a lot ofpeople think, Oh my gosh, that
sounds too hard.
And it's really not, it's reallyit's about letting go.
And my clients come to me andit's literally just popping in
some earphones, laying down,being in a dark, quiet place.
And I guide you througheverything.
You know, we go through a, it'sa guided meditation and then we
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just open up the subconsciousbecause the subconscious can be
accessed.
By a drop of brainwaves.
So all we're doing is droppingyour brainwaves, similar to
falling asleep, just getting youreally relaxed so that when we
ask the subconscious questions,the answers are given.
You don't really have to doanything.
Just providing answers.
And, and so it's funny to mewhen people were like, that
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sounds too hard.
I'm like, no, it's really not.
And once people get the hang ofit, they didn't know that that
was associated with whatever waspresenting in their life now.
And the other thing people say alot, which, which makes me laugh
too is, Oh, I haven'texperienced any trauma.
And I'm like, huh.
Okay.
So our society is pretty much atrauma factory.
(17:26):
We just live in like a traumafactory.
And I mean, COVID, for example,was the biggest, I mean, we all
have PTSD from that alone.
So that's going to trigger upall kinds of things that, that
need to be looked at and healed.
And, oh my gosh, are we, we'redealing with some hardcore PTSD.
You can see it out there in theworld, you know, people are
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struggling they're justoverloaded and so I, I don't
want people to think ofthemselves as these traumatized,
broken people, but I don't thinkpeople understand what trauma
is.
They think it's like a big thinglike a plane crash or a.
Car crash or death it's not,it's little things.
It's how you interpret an event.
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So it's your interpretation ofan experience.
And then that experience locksin a belief and that belief then
creates or manifest in yourlife.
So we have all experiencedtrauma.
We live in a trauma factory, butonce you understand that, and
you can just look at the worldand go.
Oh, trauma factory.
Hmm.
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And you can figure out ways to,I guess that's what we could
call enlightenment.
Deal with that and manage thatand, and take that apart and
make it work for you in a betterway.
That's what I try to help peopledo.
So yeah, we've all experiencedtrauma and that's okay.
It's just about transforming it.
Megan Mary (18:47):
I'm glad you quantified that because I do
think that there is a commonmisconception about what
qualifies as that, or that termhas a loaded perception to it.
And I think it's similar toloss, many people think that
loss is just the Someone dyingthat's close to you and don't
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realize that there are so manydifferent kinds of loss and
similar to so many differentkinds of trauma.
And all of those things have tobe processed, have to be dealt
with.
And they, range, there's aspectrum, right?
And it's not necessarily what alot of people perceive it being.
And so they skip over it andthey gloss over it and they
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simplify it.
And they don't think that thatneeds to be dealt with and that.
That that could be affectingthem and that many times the
thing that is because you'repushing it down and you're
keeping it in the back room, soto speak, in the subconscious.
Christina Cannes (19:47):
Yeah, it's it's really frustrating, because
we're really not taught anythingabout any of this.
We're really just walking aroundblind.
We start to dig deeper and theexperiences you had as a child
between the ages of zero andseven with them.
And, you know, people don'trealize that's the link.
I mean, some people do, but youknow, and it's all about
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identifying those patterns andthe patterns will reveal the
trauma or whatever the rootcause issue or whatever you want
to call it.
I just call it trauma.
Cause for me, I mean, to me,that that's what it is.
It's just a belief that getslocked in from an experience
that wasn't great
Megan Mary (20:27):
so as a woman, what role have dreams played in your
journey, if at all?
Christina Cannes (20:31):
Well, dreams have always played a major
character in my life.
Ever since I was little, I'vealways had very vivid dreams, a
few that were quite psychic.
So I always paid close attentionto them.
And when after my Two boys wereborn.
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I went on a bit of a journey tofind help because I knew I
needed help with trauma.
And I worked with a fewdifferent psychologists, but
that was mostly, you know, CBTtype therapy.
And I didn't find it beneficialuntil I found a Jungian
psychoanalyst who specialized indream therapy.
And I was into Jung for quite awhile.
(21:14):
I read a lot of his books and Ireally liked the way he
approached.
The understanding of our mindsand working with her was
wonderful because it allowed meto dive.
That was my first sort of forayinto the subconscious and
understanding the language andthe.
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The symbols that I use tocommunicate to myself, because
in my dreams, you know, as Iassume in everybody's dreams,
we're talking to ourselves.
We're revealing truths about ourown experiences and our traumas
and, and what's going onsubconsciously within us that we
aren't consciously aware of.
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So she really helped meunderstand.
My own personal dream languageand you know, how the events in
my life were being told orinterpreted through my dreams in
a way that allowed me to processand heal aspects of myself and,
and again, shed more light andgive me more information.
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Around what was good for me andwhat was not good for me.
And the thing I loved most aboutmy dreams is it's a very gentle
revealing.
So you are revealing truths toyourself in a very gentle,
beautiful way so that you aren'tactually, because sometimes if
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you find out the truth, that canbe traumatizing in itself.
So by gently sort of unravelingthe truth through your dreams,
So it's a better way to process.
Megan Mary (22:52):
I'm so glad that you've had that experience
because I feel like that is partof my whole message is how
important it is to harness yourown dream language and to
understand that your dreams arestory that are really just
compiled from your subconsciousand it's all you it's not just
some random regurgitation of aTV show you watched or something
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that you put in that then justkind of flopped out.
It's, it's all part of your.
conception and your perspectivesand your judgments and your
beliefs and your emotions andyour blocks and, and your hopes
and your dreams and your fearsand it's everything.
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And then it's just such abeautiful puzzle story parable
sometimes that is really tryingto show you a path.
Show you a solution.
Show you an alternate way todeal with something.
And there's just so muchinformation in there that is
available to people and theyjust don't know how to tap into
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it.
So I'm glad that you'veexperienced that.
Christina Cannes (24:05):
The thing I love most about dreaming is like
art.
It's really a masterpiece.
Because it's all of you.
But the way you're communicatingto yourself is in these really
can be in these really beautifulmetaphors.
so I encourage people to look attheir dreams like they would a
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painting or any piece of art andknow that there's way more going
on.
Than just a surface appearance,so
Megan Mary (24:36):
absolutely.
Yeah.
So if you had a couple of thingsthat people should stop doing or
people should start doing, whatwould those, those things be?
Christina Cannes (24:46):
What people should start doing?
I think people should start,Getting curious I think everyone
should see themselves as acreator.
So the sooner you realize thatwhat's happening to you, I mean,
not all of it, but a lot of itis your own creation and trying
to find ways to createdifferently or create better
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outcomes for yourself.
The better.
So take responsibility forwhat's happening again, not all
of it.
I'm not saying, for example,domestic violence, I created
that in the sense that I'dexperienced that as a child.
So therefore my marriage thatalso presented.
I'm not excusing the abuse orthe violence.
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I was able to put myself in thatsituation because of what was
going on in my subconscious.
But that person is not absolvedfrom that because of that.
Right.
So it's just about takingresponsibility for your part in
the creation of that, which youare experiencing and doing the
best you can to create adifferent outcome for yourself
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that you're happy with.
And so just getting curious andtracking your patterns and
trying to understand, it's likethe, the hypothesis formula, if
then what, you know, and thenonce you understand those
patterns, then you'll be able togo back into the subconscious
and kind of change thingsaround.
And.
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I would tell people to stopwatching mainstream media and
consuming anything political.
Like I think I just see so muchenergy going out into the realm,
especially in the U.
S.
Of, there's so much energy beingput towards politics and
mainstream media and all thisstuff.
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And just a silly bunch of lies.
So once you recognize that weliterally live in a trauma
factory and that, that is allmake believe silly money power
control over you, nonsense, bothsides.
Just stop giving it your energy.
So that's my advice in terms ofstopping.
Megan Mary (26:53):
And the constant stress that that puts you under
is just keeps us from reallybeing able to be enlightened.
Yes.
Christina Cannes (27:03):
Yeah.
It's just a constant state offight or flight, you know,
you're activating your nervoussystem all the time by engaging
in that.
And then, another.
It's a great way to heal traumasthrough healthy, secure
attachment and connection.
It's really hard if everybody'sfighting each other, right?
(27:23):
So I just encourage everybody toturn all that stuff off and go
outside and get some sun.
Yes.
And meditate.
That'd be great too.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Yes.
That's like, it's that's awinner if you can get there.
Megan Mary (27:44):
So what's next for you on your journey?
Christina Cannes (27:47):
I wrote a book, published a book in 2016,
a novel.
So I'm gearing up to writeanother one.
And yeah, I just keep doing mywork, helping folks.
I've been getting a lot ofdownloads or having a lot of
chats with.
Usually I'm somewhat of apsychic medium.
So a lot of times when deadpeople come through, it's
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usually to talk to people I knowdirectly like friends or family,
and they want to share messagesand I I don't do that for work
or anything.
I just do it.
Because I can help people, butrecently, well, since last year,
people have been coming through,like, Famous people we all know
(28:32):
and chatting to me and tellingme things.
So I'm going to start puttingthat up on YouTube because it's
really lovely, beautiful.
Information that I think willhelp people understand the world
and their place in it a littlebit better because people on the
other side they have a reallyfunny sense of humor and it's
(28:53):
just so much love that comesthrough.
It's just really amazingvibration.
Nothing I've experienced here inthis dimension.
So yeah, so I'm going to startsharing more of that.
Megan Mary (29:05):
I'd love to hear that.
And that would make a fabulousbook.
Christina Cannes (29:10):
Yeah, my book's going to be more about
creativity and I know for a factthat past lives are real and,
and people operate on theassumption that we just are dead
and nothing happens.
And we only get this 1 life,which is not true.
And so I'm really writing thisbook in the hopes to explain how
that all works in a differentway, but also.
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I do end up here again inanother lifetime.
I can remember faster how it allworks.
Cause it's a lot of work diggingthrough all this stuff.
And if we have to do thislifetime after lifetime, I mean,
that's just exhausting.
So I think with me, for me, theenlightenment journey I'm on is
how do I wrap this up?
Move on.
Megan Mary (29:51):
Right.
Well, where can people find youif they'd like to find out more
about your modality?
Christina Cannes (30:00):
My website is It's big beautiful sky.
com can go there.
It has everything.
Megan Mary (30:09):
Awesome.
All right.
Well, thank you so much forbeing here today, Christina
Cannes.
I know my listeners will lovehearing your approach and your
story, and I really appreciateyou sharing it with us today.
My pleasure.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Welcome.
Today we have Christina Cannes.
She is a trauma trainedhypnotherapist, nutritionist,
and the creator of BeliefHacking.
She helps entrepreneurs,business owners, and creatives
uplevel their life and businessusing subconscious
reprogramming.
(00:21):
Welcome, Christina.
Christina Cannes (00:23):
Thank you.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to be here.
Megan Mary (00:26):
Yes, I'm so glad to have you here.
I find what you do reallyinteresting your combination of
trauma work with nutrition.
I feel like that combination israre to find together and I
can't wait to share that withour listeners today.
Christina Cannes (00:42):
Yes, it is.
It's funny that it's rarebecause it's actually really
important and really impactful.
Megan Mary (00:47):
Yes.
Yes, and we will find out howmuch one of my first questions
that I ask everyone is what doesenlightenment mean to you?
Christina Cannes (00:57):
That's a really good question because
it's a very Mysterious wordenlightenment.
For me personally, I thinkenlightenment is I just consider
it more awareness.
Based on what I know of life andwhy we're here.
It seems to be that we are allon or should be a mission of
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enlightenment.
And by that, I mean, justbecoming more aware and
discovering more truth andopening up to more and more
information.
And I think enlightenment isreally important in regards to
your own self and who you are.
I find that people who go on thejourney of self discovery,
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enlightenment is part and parcelof that.
So it's very exciting.
I think it's also a vibratorystate.
If you look at the scales ofconsciousness, it's at the top.
So I don't think it's an end.
Like it's a, it's not really adestination.
It seems to be a continuousjourney.
So even though you reach thisvibratory state of
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enlightenment, I still thinkthere's more and more and more,
I don't know if we can everreach the end.
So that's what makes it.
Megan Mary (02:12):
Absolutely.
I couldn't agree more.
It is a journey.
It's, it's not a destination,but I do think it is also, like
you said, a state of being aspart of being in that journey.
And I'd love also that you saidit's about asking questions
because if you're notcontinually seeking, it really
is a part of, I feel to ourexistence.
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Our purpose is to continually beseeking and continually be
asking those larger questions,those larger questions.
More profound, deeper questions.
Christina Cannes (02:46):
Like who am I?
Why am I here?
Yes.
Megan Mary (02:52):
Yeah.
Starting with those.
So let's share with ourlisteners about your
enlightenment journey thus far,I want you to share a little bit
about what brought you to do thework that you do as a trauma
trained hypnotherapist andnutritionist.
Christina Cannes (03:07):
Sure.
I think like so many, my, Ithink my journey really kicked
off when I got divorced, I wasin a very abusive relationship
and I lost everything and I hittotal rock bottom.
And the part that frustrated meso much was, is that I was
highly aware that I had a verydifficult childhood and I knew
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that I was dealing with trauma.
I didn't really have thevocabulary for it.
And so I was very, Consciouslytrying to avoid creating a
similar situation for myself,because I noticed even at a
young age patterns, patternswithin families, patterns within
people, people repeating things.
And so I was very consciouslyaware of these patterns and
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trying to do things actively inmy life to avoid repeating those
patterns.
Now, the funny part is it'sfunny now, no matter what I did,
I ate healthy, I exercised.
I was educated.
I worked really hard.
I created what looked like,looked like a really perfect
life.
I was very successfulfinancially.
(04:13):
I had my own business traveledhome, beautiful pool, two
beautiful kids.
But, I was in a really abusiverelationship and, and I knew
there was something wrong withme.
I had gone to psychologists andthey just couldn't really figure
out what was up because from theoutside, I presented well and I
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was articulate and I understoodthe basics of psychology.
And so no matter what I did, Icould still see myself creating
that childhood.
I tried to escape.
And then finally it all, youknow, went very pear shaped and
became very dangerous.
And, I had to just get out.
But once I was on the otherside, I remember saying, I don't
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want to do this anymore.
If I can't figure out how to notcreate this again, because I was
really scared that I would getinto another relationship or put
myself in situations that turnedout to be really dangerous.
And from that moment on, thingsstarted to unravel.
So what I learned is that traumais not something you can talk
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your way out of necessarily.
A lot of psychologists, I'm notbagging psychologists, I think
they are important and necessarybut cognitive behavior therapy
isn't going to fix your trauma.
Trauma is stored in the body.
It's very, it's very much aphysical manifestation as much
as it is a mental manifestationand uncovering those what I call
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root cause issues.
So those moments in childhood,or even in past lives that set
up that pattern going back andrecognizing that, Oh, That's
what created this later on andclearing that.
And what I do is I reprogram it.
That's what for me had thebiggest, what I call return on
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investment, because in myopinion, if you're spending the
money and the time to go seekhelp to heal trauma and to
really fix your life, you wantto return on that investment.
And, there's a lot of things outthere.
I'm not saying that there's one.
solution for trauma.
You kind of have to hit it froma variety of different angles
and it's different for everyone.
But I found that, using hypnosisand going back to that root
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cause issue and also combiningthat with really, with very
specific Dietary the way I waseating made a big impact on on
how I was able to process mytrauma.
Let me just put it that waybecause a lot of the food we
consume or that's considerednormal will actually put us into
a state of fight or flight.
It's really difficult to processtrauma.
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If your body is experiencinganxiety or in fight or flight
so.
The more you can do to calm yourbody and actually learn what
safety and calm feels like, thebetter off you're going to be
and the faster you'll be able toprogress.
So that for me was the big aha.
Once I figured out that we'rekind of like computers, we're
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running these programs and theseprograms are not really helping
us and they're creating problemsfor us and we can fix it.
We can go back and literallyreprogram it.
That shifted everything.
And I just started learning asmuch as I could and going and
seeing different practitionersand yeah, it was, it was
amazing.
I mean, I was able to turn areally bad situation into
something really wonderful.
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That's helped me and a lot ofother people.
So while I am grateful for it,I'm not a fan of suffering and
not one of those people thatsays, oh, you need to suffer to
learn.
I don't believe that.
So but for whatever reason, thatseems to be how it goes.
Megan Mary (07:40):
Right.
We are a product of ourenvironment, obviously.
And, and sometimes we're drivento, to seek those questions when
we really do have to go throughdifficult times in our lives.
But when we can share those.
experiences with others.
I feel like that's really wherethe gift lies.
It isn't necessarily in thesuffering that we went through,
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but it's what we discovered as aresult of that.
And then sharing that withothers to help them through
theirs.
Christina Cannes (08:14):
For me, I just think suffering is terrible.
And I don't want anyone to haveto do that.
So if I can help you, I I'm ahundred percent here to help
ease that suffering any way Ican what people go on to do once
they feel better.
You know, it's up to them.
Sure.
It could be just for me.
I'd rather I focus oncreativity.
(08:34):
And so I think the more traumayou heal, the more creative you
can be, you can become, and themore the easier it is to really
tap into your creativity.
Creativity meaning your abilityto, I guess, quote, manifest
things.
So not just making a piece ofart, but creating anything.
So I just love seeing people.
Tap into and lean into theirintuition more and be able to
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really push forward and createwhat they want to create.
Because I think the people talkabout flow or health and
wellness.
I think being in that creativestate is what feels.
The most healthy and natural.
And I think a lot of mentalhealth issues could be resolved.
With that more creative, thatcreative focus, like, what do
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you want to make?
What are you here to make?
I think we're, natural creators.
So yeah, so that's my mission isjust to turn on that creativity
for everybody.
Megan Mary (09:27):
Yes.
And that's how you're sharingit.
And it's not so much in allbeing about your story, right?
It's more about what you've,what you've created as a result
of that and sharing that your,your program and your modality
that you've discovered.
And I think that there's so muchin, in functional medicine that
really does look at both ofthose sides of the coin, the
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childhood events, as well as thegut health.
The two things really goingtogether and the body not being
able to process the nutritionwithout having that energetic
alignment, but also thesubconscious wholeness and.
That's so much part ofDreamWorks, too, is unearthing
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those subconscious blockagesthat are very well there from
past lives, childhood, or,whatever we've experienced as
spiritually along our path.
And it's latent, but it'shidden.
And we're carrying it around andboth our, Soul and our body and
(10:33):
our mind, and it really doesblock us from moving forward in
so many ways that we don'trealize.
And once we can uncover those,those blocks and transform them
in a variety of ways, then we'reable to move past that and to
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reprogram and transform that.
block or that belief, whichmight not even have a basis in
reality, it might not even havea foundation, but it's become so
entrenched in our subconsciousthat it's controlling much more
than we know.
(11:16):
So I love your book, healingtrauma with food.
I think that that's a fabulouscombination.
That's so not approached in, inWestern medicine.
And I love what you talked aboutwith the DNA methylation.
And I don't know if you couldsay a little bit more about that
(11:38):
and the impact that nutritioncan have on the healing
capability.
Christina Cannes (11:45):
Yeah, sure.
I think with methylation, it'sfunny now because everyone's
talking about longevity andliving forever and methylation
and how important that processis to longevity.
And that's so true because ifyou do what's called an ace
survey, which is adversechildhood experiences.
If you've taken that and yourscore is high, Then the
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likelihood of you having adisease or experiencing ill
health is also high.
There's a correlation.
So I took that and it was Iscored high and it scared me.
And based on what I'veresearched and the way that I
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eat and approach food is I tryto only consume foods that
support healthy methylation.
So whenever you're dealing withtrauma or even just bad food or,
or negative experiences, theycan, your DNA is highly
reactive.
So it can, it can flip on thegood stuff or it can flip on the
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bad stuff.
And so To put it really simply,the food that I lay out in my
book is really there to supportthe good switch.
So it's, it's supporting thebody to function healthily, to
age well, to avoid thosediseases as much as we possibly
can, and to really calm thenervous system.
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There are a lot of nutrients andDifferent minerals that you
really need in order to supportyour nervous system and keep it
calm.
I think for me, when I do workwith clients, the biggest things
that people can do to improvetheir mental health with diet
are to stop.
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Consuming caffeine, because thatjust activates your nervous
system to stop consumingalcohol, because that will
create so many mental healthissues and to give up sugar,
because again, it's an, it's anervous system stimulant, it's
going to make you feel unwell,it's going to turn the bad
switch on.
So.
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I know it's hard because ourentire society is built on those
three things, but if you can letthose go and it's easy, it's
basic, it's the nourishingfoods.
It's all about finding whatworks best, what supports the
body, what nourishes the body,and what flips the good switch
on so the DNA is not creatingdisease.
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Yes.
Well, I love that approach.
I am a huge nutritional advocatemyself.
And of course, I'm also a reallybig advocate of personal
transformation, so I whollysupport the, the combination of
those two things.
I think it's so often overlookedit's hard enough to get people
to want to.
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Do that difficult work ofuncovering the things that are
causing challenges in theirlives, but it's a whole nother
thing to get them to talk aboutthe food that they're consuming
or their lifestyle choices andand those things don't exist in
a vacuum.
And they're also not usuallydiscussed in a, in a medical
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environment.
So combining those things isreally holistically beneficial.
And, just in general, theWestern way that mental health
is approached and the differenteither medications they try and
throw at it or the differentapproaches that they take and
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you're just so vacuum focused onone thing that you're never
looking at the rest of thepicture that is influencing it.
So you really need to have amore integrative approach like
that to get over those humps.
Yeah, it's funny because thebody is a system so isolating
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different parts of the body.
In exactly what you said, itjust makes no sense.
It's a system.
There's no one part without thewhole.
Megan Mary (15:49):
And the next question is what is a commonly
held misconception that youdisagree with in terms of this
work?
Christina Cannes (15:58):
Most common, there's two questions or two
concerns that I, I get hit witha lot when I talk about what I
do.
It's very simple.
I created something calledbelief hacking.
It goes into your subconsciousand identifies the root cause
issue and we clear it and thenreprogram it.
And then we support that withaligned action and, repeating
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that new belief so a lot ofpeople think, Oh my gosh, that
sounds too hard.
And it's really not, it's reallyit's about letting go.
And my clients come to me andit's literally just popping in
some earphones, laying down,being in a dark, quiet place.
And I guide you througheverything.
You know, we go through a, it'sa guided meditation and then we
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just open up the subconsciousbecause the subconscious can be
accessed.
By a drop of brainwaves.
So all we're doing is droppingyour brainwaves, similar to
falling asleep, just getting youreally relaxed so that when we
ask the subconscious questions,the answers are given.
You don't really have to doanything.
Just providing answers.
And, and so it's funny to mewhen people were like, that
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sounds too hard.
I'm like, no, it's really not.
And once people get the hang ofit, they didn't know that that
was associated with whatever waspresenting in their life now.
And the other thing people say alot, which, which makes me laugh
too is, Oh, I haven'texperienced any trauma.
And I'm like, huh.
Okay.
So our society is pretty much atrauma factory.
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We just live in like a traumafactory.
And I mean, COVID, for example,was the biggest, I mean, we all
have PTSD from that alone.
So that's going to trigger upall kinds of things that, that
need to be looked at and healed.
And, oh my gosh, are we, we'redealing with some hardcore PTSD.
You can see it out there in theworld, you know, people are
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struggling they're justoverloaded and so I, I don't
want people to think ofthemselves as these traumatized,
broken people, but I don't thinkpeople understand what trauma
is.
They think it's like a big thinglike a plane crash or a.
Car crash or death it's not,it's little things.
It's how you interpret an event.
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So it's your interpretation ofan experience.
And then that experience locksin a belief and that belief then
creates or manifest in yourlife.
So we have all experiencedtrauma.
We live in a trauma factory, butonce you understand that, and
you can just look at the worldand go.
Oh, trauma factory.
Hmm.
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And you can figure out ways to,I guess that's what we could
call enlightenment.
Deal with that and manage thatand, and take that apart and
make it work for you in a betterway.
That's what I try to help peopledo.
So yeah, we've all experiencedtrauma and that's okay.
It's just about transforming it.
Megan Mary (18:47):
I'm glad you quantified that because I do
think that there is a commonmisconception about what
qualifies as that, or that termhas a loaded perception to it.
And I think it's similar toloss, many people think that
loss is just the Someone dyingthat's close to you and don't
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realize that there are so manydifferent kinds of loss and
similar to so many differentkinds of trauma.
And all of those things have tobe processed, have to be dealt
with.
And they, range, there's aspectrum, right?
And it's not necessarily what alot of people perceive it being.
And so they skip over it andthey gloss over it and they
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simplify it.
And they don't think that thatneeds to be dealt with and that.
That that could be affectingthem and that many times the
thing that is because you'repushing it down and you're
keeping it in the back room, soto speak, in the subconscious.
Christina Cannes (19:47):
Yeah, it's it's really frustrating, because
we're really not taught anythingabout any of this.
We're really just walking aroundblind.
We start to dig deeper and theexperiences you had as a child
between the ages of zero andseven with them.
And, you know, people don'trealize that's the link.
I mean, some people do, but youknow, and it's all about
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identifying those patterns andthe patterns will reveal the
trauma or whatever the rootcause issue or whatever you want
to call it.
I just call it trauma.
Cause for me, I mean, to me,that that's what it is.
It's just a belief that getslocked in from an experience
that wasn't great
Megan Mary (20:27):
so as a woman, what role have dreams played in your
journey, if at all?
Christina Cannes (20:31):
Well, dreams have always played a major
character in my life.
Ever since I was little, I'vealways had very vivid dreams, a
few that were quite psychic.
So I always paid close attentionto them.
And when after my Two boys wereborn.
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I went on a bit of a journey tofind help because I knew I
needed help with trauma.
And I worked with a fewdifferent psychologists, but
that was mostly, you know, CBTtype therapy.
And I didn't find it beneficialuntil I found a Jungian
psychoanalyst who specialized indream therapy.
And I was into Jung for quite awhile.
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I read a lot of his books and Ireally liked the way he
approached.
The understanding of our mindsand working with her was
wonderful because it allowed meto dive.
That was my first sort of forayinto the subconscious and
understanding the language andthe.
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The symbols that I use tocommunicate to myself, because
in my dreams, you know, as Iassume in everybody's dreams,
we're talking to ourselves.
We're revealing truths about ourown experiences and our traumas
and, and what's going onsubconsciously within us that we
aren't consciously aware of.
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So she really helped meunderstand.
My own personal dream languageand you know, how the events in
my life were being told orinterpreted through my dreams in
a way that allowed me to processand heal aspects of myself and,
and again, shed more light andgive me more information.
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Around what was good for me andwhat was not good for me.
And the thing I loved most aboutmy dreams is it's a very gentle
revealing.
So you are revealing truths toyourself in a very gentle,
beautiful way so that you aren'tactually, because sometimes if
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you find out the truth, that canbe traumatizing in itself.
So by gently sort of unravelingthe truth through your dreams,
So it's a better way to process.
Megan Mary (22:52):
I'm so glad that you've had that experience
because I feel like that is partof my whole message is how
important it is to harness yourown dream language and to
understand that your dreams arestory that are really just
compiled from your subconsciousand it's all you it's not just
some random regurgitation of aTV show you watched or something
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that you put in that then justkind of flopped out.
It's, it's all part of your.
conception and your perspectivesand your judgments and your
beliefs and your emotions andyour blocks and, and your hopes
and your dreams and your fearsand it's everything.
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And then it's just such abeautiful puzzle story parable
sometimes that is really tryingto show you a path.
Show you a solution.
Show you an alternate way todeal with something.
And there's just so muchinformation in there that is
available to people and theyjust don't know how to tap into
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it.
So I'm glad that you'veexperienced that.
Christina Cannes (24:05):
The thing I love most about dreaming is like
art.
It's really a masterpiece.
Because it's all of you.
But the way you're communicatingto yourself is in these really
can be in these really beautifulmetaphors.
so I encourage people to look attheir dreams like they would a
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painting or any piece of art andknow that there's way more going
on.
Than just a surface appearance,so
Megan Mary (24:36):
absolutely.
Yeah.
So if you had a couple of thingsthat people should stop doing or
people should start doing, whatwould those, those things be?
Christina Cannes (24:46):
What people should start doing?
I think people should start,Getting curious I think everyone
should see themselves as acreator.
So the sooner you realize thatwhat's happening to you, I mean,
not all of it, but a lot of itis your own creation and trying
to find ways to createdifferently or create better
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outcomes for yourself.
The better.
So take responsibility forwhat's happening again, not all
of it.
I'm not saying, for example,domestic violence, I created
that in the sense that I'dexperienced that as a child.
So therefore my marriage thatalso presented.
I'm not excusing the abuse orthe violence.
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I was able to put myself in thatsituation because of what was
going on in my subconscious.
But that person is not absolvedfrom that because of that.
Right.
So it's just about takingresponsibility for your part in
the creation of that, which youare experiencing and doing the
best you can to create adifferent outcome for yourself
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that you're happy with.
And so just getting curious andtracking your patterns and
trying to understand, it's likethe, the hypothesis formula, if
then what, you know, and thenonce you understand those
patterns, then you'll be able togo back into the subconscious
and kind of change thingsaround.
And.
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I would tell people to stopwatching mainstream media and
consuming anything political.
Like I think I just see so muchenergy going out into the realm,
especially in the U.
S.
Of, there's so much energy beingput towards politics and
mainstream media and all thisstuff.
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And just a silly bunch of lies.
So once you recognize that weliterally live in a trauma
factory and that, that is allmake believe silly money power
control over you, nonsense, bothsides.
Just stop giving it your energy.
So that's my advice in terms ofstopping.
Megan Mary (26:53):
And the constant stress that that puts you under
is just keeps us from reallybeing able to be enlightened.
Yes.
Christina Cannes (27:03):
Yeah.
It's just a constant state offight or flight, you know,
you're activating your nervoussystem all the time by engaging
in that.
And then, another.
It's a great way to heal traumasthrough healthy, secure
attachment and connection.
It's really hard if everybody'sfighting each other, right?
(27:23):
So I just encourage everybody toturn all that stuff off and go
outside and get some sun.
Yes.
And meditate.
That'd be great too.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Yes.
That's like, it's that's awinner if you can get there.
Megan Mary (27:44):
So what's next for you on your journey?
Christina Cannes (27:47):
I wrote a book, published a book in 2016,
a novel.
So I'm gearing up to writeanother one.
And yeah, I just keep doing mywork, helping folks.
I've been getting a lot ofdownloads or having a lot of
chats with.
Usually I'm somewhat of apsychic medium.
So a lot of times when deadpeople come through, it's
(28:10):
usually to talk to people I knowdirectly like friends or family,
and they want to share messagesand I I don't do that for work
or anything.
I just do it.
Because I can help people, butrecently, well, since last year,
people have been coming through,like, Famous people we all know
(28:32):
and chatting to me and tellingme things.
So I'm going to start puttingthat up on YouTube because it's
really lovely, beautiful.
Information that I think willhelp people understand the world
and their place in it a littlebit better because people on the
other side they have a reallyfunny sense of humor and it's
(28:53):
just so much love that comesthrough.
It's just really amazingvibration.
Nothing I've experienced here inthis dimension.
So yeah, so I'm going to startsharing more of that.
Megan Mary (29:05):
I'd love to hear that.
And that would make a fabulousbook.
Christina Cannes (29:10):
Yeah, my book's going to be more about
creativity and I know for a factthat past lives are real and,
and people operate on theassumption that we just are dead
and nothing happens.
And we only get this 1 life,which is not true.
And so I'm really writing thisbook in the hopes to explain how
that all works in a differentway, but also.
(29:31):
I do end up here again inanother lifetime.
I can remember faster how it allworks.
Cause it's a lot of work diggingthrough all this stuff.
And if we have to do thislifetime after lifetime, I mean,
that's just exhausting.
So I think with me, for me, theenlightenment journey I'm on is
how do I wrap this up?
Move on.
Megan Mary (29:51):
Right.
Well, where can people find youif they'd like to find out more
about your modality?
Christina Cannes (30:00):
My website is It's big beautiful sky.
com can go there.
It has everything.
Megan Mary (30:09):
Awesome.
All right.
Well, thank you so much forbeing here today, Christina
Cannes.
I know my listeners will lovehearing your approach and your
story, and I really appreciateyou sharing it with us today.
My pleasure.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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