December 20, 2023 • 47 mins
Ready to journey beyond your five senses? Our guest, Julianna Whitlow, spiritual self-discovery coach, is here to guide us through an intriguing exploration of Clair Senses or energy senses. Drawing from her own life-altering encounter with the Clairs, Julianna breaks down how these senses echo our physical ones, yet uniquely connect us to the energetic world.
Throughout our conversation, we tackle fear, societal judgment, and misconceptions that often surround our intuitive abilities. Julianna's insights highlight the importance of not hastily unlocking all Clairs at once - a mistake that many make. Each of us has a unique path when it comes to discovering and navigating through our Clairs. We chat about the role of Clairs in navigating life's transitions and traumas. We also emphasize the importance of not defining oneself through others' lenses and touch upon the transformative power of dream work.
We wrap up by investigating the various types of Clair senses that manifest in our lives. Be it Clairvoyance, Clairaudience, Claircognizance, Clairalience, Clairsentience, or Clairgustance, we discuss how each one plays its part in our energy work. We share techniques and exercises to tap into these senses and advocate for trusting your senses and standing in your truth. Whether you consider yourself spiritual or not, this discussion promises to leave you with food for thought. Come, join us, and let's walk this enlightening path together.
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Megan Mary (00:03):
Welcome.
Today we have Julianna Whitlow.
She is a spiritualself-discovery coach that
supports those that have gonethrough a significant life event
that has racked their coreidentity and are now seeking to
answer the question who am I?
Through tools such as soulretrieval and soul reflection,
she helps you unlock your soul'smemory of who you really are by
(00:27):
opening up your Claire's energysenses.
Julianna Whitlow (00:31):
Welcome, juliana Hi thank you for having
me so excited.
Megan Mary (00:36):
Yes, I'm so happy to have you here too.
I love this topic and I haven'thad really anyone speak about
it yet on my podcast, so I'mreally honored to have you here
to share that with everyone.
Julianna Whitlow (00:50):
Honest to be here.
This is going to be great.
Megan Mary (00:53):
So my first question that I ask everyone is what
does enlightenment mean to you?
Julianna Whitlow (00:59):
Enlightenment to me is about remembering who
you are and tapping into thatsoul essence, truly
understanding who you are as asoul being.
Megan Mary (01:13):
Yes, I completely agree with that, and I think
it's so much the journey that weare all on and the challenge
that we face right, it's like wemight.
We may know that, but we don'tknow how to do that.
Julianna Whitlow (01:27):
Exactly.
Megan Mary (01:30):
So tell the listeners a little bit about
your journey to discovering theClaire's, and then we'll talk
about what the Claire's are.
Julianna Whitlow (01:38):
Okay, so my journey started in 2020, and I
always find this veryinteresting because if you would
have explained to me who I ambefore 2020, a spiritual person
would not even come close.
Who I am today would not evenbe close to what I would use to
explain myself.
And this came about byexperiencing.
(02:03):
What I now know is what isClaire's sentence, which is
Claire feeling.
So that's about tapping intoyour energy sense of feeling,
feeling energy around you, and Ikind of got slapped over the
head, so to speak, with anexperience where grief hit me
significantly, a death hit mesignificantly, and it was a
(02:25):
death of an animal, and when Iexperienced it, I felt
everything.
I felt it take its last breath,I felt the fear, I felt the
peace and it left me in one ofthose things of like, what in
the world was that and what isthis about?
It rocked me to my core, so tospeak, and it set me on a
(02:46):
discovery of what is it, what isthis, what's going on?
And that's why I got introducedto your energy senses, or your
Claire's, and understanding thatour players are just like our
physical senses, but instead ofusing them for the physical
world, we use them for theenergetic world.
It allows us to connect in todifferent energies.
(03:08):
Of course we have Claire'ssentence, which I just spoke
about, which is feeling or clearfeeling, and then we have
Claire's voice, which is seeingClaire's audience, which is
hearing, claire's cognizance,which is knowing Claire's aliens
, and Claire's gussence, whichis tasting and smelling, and
there's a bunch more, but thoseare the big ones that we usually
(03:28):
talk about and we're able totap into those to receive
different messages, differentguidance to help us through our
journey.
Megan Mary (03:39):
That was a really great short explanation because
I think so many people don'treally.
They've heard of clairvoyance,probably, but not of the others,
and also just don't reallyunderstand how they're different
from other terms that they hearevery day, so how those are
different from psychic or mediumor empath or channel, for
(04:05):
example, because those are morecommon, I think, exactly.
Julianna Whitlow (04:10):
And we can all experience those.
We all have.
We have all the players.
We experience them differently.
So, just like I mightexperience touch differently
than you might experience touch,our players are the same.
So a lot of times we seeclairvoyance.
I'll use that as a greatexample.
There's a lot of people knowthat as physically seeing with
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the eyes it can be.
It could also be seeing withthe mind's eye.
It could also be termed as animagination and it's a way of
seeing things outside of thephysical reality and everyone
experiences those differently.
So understanding one, how youexperience them.
Two, what is your strongestplayer.
And then three, going fromthere and tapping into the other
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players and being a psychic orbeing a medium, is communicating
with energy.
So once you learn how to openup your players and use those
senses, really it's limitless onwhat you can do as long as you
are wanting to do that, becauseit is all about what you want,
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how you want to live.
Megan Mary (05:21):
I love the name of your business a clair mindset
and partly because I think it'sa great plan words, right, it's
using.
But then there's another twistright, which is my middle name
is Claire.
So that's even more fabulous.
Julianna Whitlow (05:37):
Yes, what are those things?
Well, like, we talk about, youknow, destiny, and we talk about
purpose, and we talk all aboutthat.
And you know it came to meabout a year ago.
They're like how about clear,we've made the name of your
business and what you weresupposed to focus on, and do we
literally put it in your name?
We put it in your middle nameand I'm like that makes a lot of
(05:58):
sense.
Thank you for the guidance.
Yes, yes.
Megan Mary (06:02):
Seeing the forest for the trees, or right.
So, in your experience, how dopeople usually discover their
gifts, and is there one thatusually comes first, or is it
(06:23):
different for everyone?
Julianna Whitlow (06:24):
It is different for everyone.
Honestly, especially with theClaire's.
I have a quiz on my websitethat I can give you the link to
so that people can go and takethe quiz and it can tell them
the strongest Claire and thenthey can kind of start from
there on their journey.
But it's about interest andabout understanding it.
A lot of times people usuallyhave a significant event that
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happens and that's what triggersthem into going down this path.
There's very few and I'm seeingit actually picking up recently
of who are just curious andjust wanting to start.
You lose usually a significantevent of, like, what in the
world just happened and who am Ireally?
And that's what starts on thatwhole journey.
Our gifts is aboutunderstanding who we are at a
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soul level, because that's whatour gifts are.
It's about bringing who wetruly are to the surface and
living through that.
Megan Mary (07:21):
I found that same exact thing that something has
to usually really rock you,shift you.
It can be a loss or a major youknow, in my case, medical
catastrophe, or just somethingmajor that really makes you
(07:42):
question and also reevaluate.
And something that you had saidwhen you initially had reached
out to me was that are welearning?
Our gifts and abilities arejust remembering, and that
resonated with me so muchbecause I often say the word
spiritual awakening but for meand for so many others it's a
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remembering.
Julianna Whitlow (08:07):
It really is, when a lot of times when I see a
work with clients, they'retaking this as something that
we've learned in school.
They're trying to put what theyhave physically done and how
they physically learn toexpanding onto their players,
into the gifts, and it's atotally different approach
because it's about going withand and really remembering and
(08:30):
healing to be able to open thatback up.
I believe that we're born withthis and at some point in our
lives, through different events,we have closed this off and it
could be something as what wejust didn't use it right,
because if we don't use oursenses, they're going to dole.
So when we're in a physicalworld, we're not using our
energetic senses the furnitureto dole.
(08:51):
So it is about remembering andtapping back into that, but also
stepping back a little bit fromthe physical world.
Megan Mary (08:58):
Yes, and so often people just discard and
disregard their what they're.
They are sensing and they aregetting information and they are
seeing coincidence and they areseeing synchronicities and they
are saying, isn't that weirdthat?
Oh, I had this, you know,feeling that, but they just
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don't know what to do with it.
They don't know how.
If it's into this 3D world andthey don't, they're very afraid
in most cases to embrace it,much less come out in public and
talk about it, which is a wholeanother ballgame.
And it's really because there'sso much baggage and cultural
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judgment about that type ofability or expression or
awareness, because it's notsomething that's so concrete and
so it's not as accepted.
And then there's a lot of feararound really stepping into
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alignment with that and owningthat.
And so so many women have theseabilities already happening in
their life and we all do but somany are so gifted to and
they're just not harnessing itand they're not embracing it and
they're pushing it down becausethey don't really know how to
(10:23):
make that exist in the worldthat they are living in.
Julianna Whitlow (10:29):
Exactly, and you know I'm working with one of
my clients now.
She is like how do I balance myreligion, my upbringing, my
beliefs and my spirituality?
And I said you accept them asone in the same.
You put them together andaccept them as one in the same
because they truly are.
It's about understanding whereyou are aligning and what your
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soul is pushing you to and beingcomfortable with sometimes that
not being accepted in ourphysical world my family,
friends, acquaintances and beingokay to stand in your truth,
because I was one of thosepeople who, very black and white
, very black and white, veryphysical you cannot physically
(11:15):
prove it in front of me I wasnot going to believe it.
But when I experienced thatremembering without awakening, I
physically experienced it.
Now my family and everyone werelike you've just lost your mind
.
But for me, I knew my truth andthe one thing that's always
been guiding light to me is mytruth.
(11:37):
My whole life is my truth and Ihave to stand in my truth.
Yes, so with that, over yearsof healing and everything else,
I've been able to get where I amnow.
But it's so important to honoryour truth, who you really are.
Megan Mary (11:56):
Yes, thank you for saying that.
I think that's what everyoneneeds to hear.
To be honest, and like you said, yes, there is a fear that
everyone's going to say, well,you're a little you know, you
know and, and you're.
There's a lot of concern aboutthat, right, and it's in the end
of the end of the day, youcan't live your life based on
what other people are going tosay, especially when you feel so
(12:19):
compelled, so drawn.
And particularly in myexperience, there was this real
sense of urgency and this real,like you said, palpable,
physical way that I wasperceiving Okay, yes, I don't
know what this is exactly, butit's never going to be the same
(12:40):
and I can't go back and I haveto go forward as fast as
possible.
Julianna Whitlow (12:45):
Right, you get the beginning, you're like we
have to go as fast as.
I experienced that as well, andI experienced it with my
clients is like as fast aspossible to, because it's almost
uncomfortable.
You're not fully cracked open,but you're not fully open and
comfortable and you're who youare.
So you're like in this inbetween and I can feel very
uncomfortable, very unsettling.
So I totally relate to that.
Megan Mary (13:07):
And that's like what you said about, just kind of
that, looking at the senses, thefive physical senses as
everyone accepts, and then theClaire senses and how they might
not be the same for everyone.
For example, the thought, theidea that maybe your, if you're
(13:32):
Claire, our audience, the ideathat you're quote, unquote,
hearing voices, which of courseis another trope, and another
you know, societal construct.
Right, because it doesn't, itdoesn't really work that way.
It's not exactly like you think, you know, like a psychotic
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break.
That's not like that, you know.
And so I think there's a lot ofhuge amount of misconceptions
around, and also around, ofcourse, claire warrants.
And what do you?
What do you find the biggestand biggest misconceptions are
around the different clairs, andmaybe the blockage is that
(14:13):
either people that you work withhave or people that you
interact with.
Julianna Whitlow (14:18):
The first one.
The biggest one is everyonewants it right now, they want to
work on it, they want to befully open, they want all their
players on.
And I'm going to give you agreat example of why we don't
want this.
And at 10 years old we foundout he had hearing loss and he
needs to go get hearing aids.
So we went and did the wholeprocess and we came home with
hearing aids and on the way homehe was so overwhelmed he just
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couldn't take the noise, thesound of the cars, the wind,
just absolutely everything.
He was just I have to turnthese off, I have to take this
out.
It's just too overwhelming forme.
I went from whatever his normalwas of hearing to all the way
open, all the way able to hearevery little thing that came
through, and I would be talking.
I got accustomed to talkingkind of loud because again he
(15:06):
had a little bit of hearing lossand he's like why are you
yelling?
I need you to lower your voiceand I'm like I promise I'm not
yelling at you.
These are great examples of whywe don't want, all of a sudden,
every clear open, because it'lljust hit you and it's so
overwhelming.
You want to be able to heal andprocess and make it more of a
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journey.
And then the other ones is fear.
The biggest block is fear andthere's so many different layers
of fear Fear of being seen,fear of being known, fear of
being hurt, what we've been told, you know all these different
things.
And so fear is a big one thatwe have to overcome and a lot of
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people what we do is we labelit as one thing.
But then when I work withpeople and I say let's break
this down and let's go, and I'mlike, if you're not into the
probably the first five years ofyour life, you haven't hit the
real reason of where this istruly coming from, because that
is where these blocks occurredand that happened, and there's
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been time and time again that isrepeated and therefore concrete
it itself into our subconsciousthat this isn't safe or that we
can't do this.
So a lot of times you'll seethat where cycles repeat and
what that's showing you is it'shonestly telling your
subconscious and your consciousthat, see, I was right.
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That's the ego coming throughand saying I was right, this
isn't safe.
Here's another example of it.
This is just changing the waywe look at it and just saying,
oh, this is a great opportunityto walk through, to understand,
to see the purpose of it, to getto the true reasoning.
So it's all about yourperspective and how you want to
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approach things.
It's one way of saying how weapproach things, almost like a
victim mentality, versus reallystanding in your power and
saying this didn't happen to me,this happened for me.
Megan Mary (17:08):
Yes, and I'd like you to incorporate into that the
surrender concept, because Iwas listening to you talk about
that earlier today and I thought, yeah, this is really an
important piece here too.
Julianna Whitlow (17:21):
Yes, so my logo is a woman's face and she
has flowers all over her eyes,and the purpose of that logo is
that we have to trust andsurrender to the universe
without any physical senses tobe guided on our journey.
We might not know physicallywhere we're going, we might not
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be able to physically sense it,but we have to fully surrender
to be able to walk through it.
And that is the mostcomplicated thing for a lot of
us.
We want to hold on to some typeof control.
We think we're in full control.
So, allowing yourself to fullysurrender and trust and let go
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and follow the guidance and knowwhen the guidance is coming,
that's the key to unlocking allof it.
Megan Mary (18:12):
Yes, I thought that was so profound and important
that I just wanted to bring thatup because it's really
difficult.
We're always struggling to, wewant to be guided, we want to
activate all of our highestgifts, but we also struggle so
hard holding on to the tether ofthis reality.
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And we have to right Because wehave to exist here.
And so it's like how do webalance those two?
And we want to just be able tosay go ahead and show me.
Basically, and that's what I'vebeen wanting to say, because I
actually had a dream where I wassaying show me.
(18:53):
Very strongly.
And it was part of this wholejourney where I then was shown.
And really the dreams for meare a huge portal where all of
this guidance comes through.
And when I started listening tothem all this beautiful story
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and messages and guidance andeverything was coming through
like wow, I mean it's all reallyhappening there.
But then when I would wake upand realize it was all really
happening here too, oh yeah,absolutely, and I was
surrendering to it, I was saying, ok, I had no plans to do this,
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but I know that I'm beingcalled, so show me what I'm
supposed to do.
And the more I followed that,the more it just opened up the
world.
I mean correct, open the world,you know, absolutely.
And people, women fromeverywhere just started coming
in saying, yes, I want to be apart of this, and had I not
surrendered to that, that wouldhave never been possible.
Julianna Whitlow (20:01):
No, and one of the things.
I speak about this and it wassuch a small thing going on in
my life but it was driving menuts.
We were trying to renovate ourhouse and we could not find
construction personnel, we couldnot find the right person to do
it, and we were getting sofrustrated and finally my
husband had had it and he's likewe're doing it ourselves, and
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we took a sledgehammer to thewall one day.
The very next morning I got acall that someone needed a place
to live and was moving fromFlorida to Virginia, and they
were a construction worker,someone that could come and do
the renovation of the house.
So it's literally about I wentand months of fighting and I'm
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like, no, I have to do it thisway, I have to be searched, I
have to call the people, I haveto find my person, I have to
take control of it.
And the second I said okay,let's say I'm done, take a slide
camera to the wall.
Everything just fell into place.
And I was like that is areminder to myself to truly step
back and surrender.
Megan Mary (21:01):
Right, yes, and it's such a delicate balance, like I
was saying, because there issome aspect of doing once you
receive the guidance, but it'sknowing where that line is where
you're overdoing, I guess, andoverdoing turns into controlling
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and expectation versusfollowing.
It's a very fine line.
Julianna Whitlow (21:27):
The other thing, too, for me is with some
members am I hitting a fear?
Because before we took theslide camera to the wall, there
was fear.
There was absolute fear rightOf like.
We don't know what we're doing,we can't do this, how it's,
what are the repercussions allof that?
There was fear, and once Ireally sat down and started
working through the fear ofwhere it was coming from, I
realized it doesn't apply to thesituation of end.
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It is not my truth in themoment that I am in right now.
And once I accepted that andtook the slide camera,
everything works through.
So the piece of it is are youcoming up against fear?
Because if you're coming upagainst fear, I encourage you to
step back and really see isthis a moment for you to
surrender to the fear, to workthrough it and see what is the
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message that's trying to be toldto you?
Megan Mary (22:09):
Yes, yes, it's powerful.
I wanna also talk a little bitabout your work as a death
priestess.
I find this very fascinating,and I know it's not something
that is very common, and so I'dlove for you to explain your how
you came to do that work andwhat is involved in that.
Julianna Whitlow (22:33):
Absolutely.
It started out with mediumship.
I started out with mediumshipand going through that and then,
after finding a group of people, I started understanding what
death, work and things reallywere and I started understanding
some of my dreams.
And I would love to experiencein my dreams is when I dream,
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it's almost as if I'm not myself, I'm someone else and most of
the time I experience theperson's death, what happened in
that person's death, andthrough the dream it can be a
little harsh because I canliterally sense it, feel it, all
of that, and it's almost likeI'm helping the spirit of the
soul work through whatever itwas that happened.
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However, they came to pass, andI get different shots of kind
of what happened, what occurred,and through that, what I've
realized is it kind of helps thesoul heal and move on.
So started out with mediumshipand then, when I've had that
understanding of my dreams, Iwas like that was a big eye
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opener for me Because I haddreamed this my whole life.
I just never understood it.
I thought they were nightmares,right, and I kept saying but
it's not me, it's not me goingthrough it.
It's like I'm seeing it, but Iknew it wasn't me.
But I would still come to saythey're nightmares.
That's what I always been toldand then when I sat there and I
was like, no, this isn'tnightmares, this is me helping
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someone or helping a soul heal,and that has helped me
understand the different gifts Ihave of being able to work with
souls that I have passed.
The other reason I call myself adeath priestess is the death
card and the high priestess cardin Carol.
You put those two together.
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That's my energy and I helppeople navigate those times in
their life.
They have death moments wheresomething has come to an end, a
significant change in their life, whether it be a physical death
or it be a loss or it be an endof a relationship or something
new is beginning, and they'resitting here like I don't even
know who I am anymore.
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I help people navigate that.
I believe that we walk a thinline, with one foot in the
physical world, one foot in thespiritual world, and I help
people navigate that thin lineso that they can keep the one
foot in the physical world, onefoot in the spiritual world and
fully understand who they are.
Megan Mary (25:07):
Yes, our work overlaps so much right there.
Yes, because I really feel thatI straddle the realms completely
and that middle space betweenwaking and dreaming and really
spending so much time delvinginto the darkness and the
shadows and the inner worldthat's so mystical of dreams,
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and then helping people bringthat into this life to integrate
those wisdom, those learningsthemselves, that really so many
times they are in transition andit could be any kind, any
number of transitional periodsthat can bring you to that point
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.
In fact, I have a dream journeycalled the Crossroads for that
reason, that really focuses onany kind of transition that
might happen, and sometimespeople don't understand that
loss and the term trauma can infact be much smaller things than
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they think that means.
They always think it meansviolence or death and there are
so many forms of loss and somany forms of trauma that the
definition really doesn't giveit to a justice.
It's all the differentemotional things that we need to
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clear that we also store in oursubconscious and, as you were
saying earlier, it's all a lotof it from our childhood, I
think, the majority of oursubconscious forms from age you
know, birth to seven, and so somany things that we learn about
how we think the world is getscemented, like you said then,
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and then we just build our lifearound them and we go around
thinking, well, that's the wayit is.
And we don't realize that we'rejust listening to our
subconscious and the what welearned.
It's a point, but it's notnecessarily that reality for
other people and it can doesn'thave to be for us that we can
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change that by really unearthingand, in my case, decoding what
those things are that we'recarrying with us.
Julianna Whitlow (27:31):
Absolutely.
And that's one of the thingslike when you're doing a soul
work and the trauma work, it'simportant to understand and I
like how you broke that down.
It's not always these bigthings, you know.
A lot of times it's I'll begrieving and I'm like what am I
even grieving over?
And then it'll be this, this,it'll come to me and I'm like
that's so small, I don't have aright to grieve over it.
And it's like, yes, you do.
You really have to step backand give yourself permission.
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And one of the things I waslike to tell people is we really
go through a death moment when,every single day, we go to
sleep and we are not the sameperson we were yesterday.
We are reborn every day, everymoment, so understanding that
there's a constant cycle of usallowing ourselves to be reborn,
to understand, to get a deeperunderstanding, and allowing
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ourselves to just be open towhatever it is the universe is
trying to show us.
Megan Mary (28:21):
Yeah, I love that, I love thinking about it that way
, because there are so manysmall deaths, right, yeah, and
when we're on our journey, it'slike we constantly have to let
things die.
We have to let go of thingsevery day and to it's really,
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whether whether we're doing itstrategically or on purpose or
not, it's the only way that wecan grow and actually evolve on
that enlightenment journey is toconstantly be willing to do
that Releasing right.
Julianna Whitlow (28:58):
And that's the point, part of releasing it
right.
We don't hold on to it.
We don't store the energysomewhere in us.
We allow it to go.
We let it go because if westore it within us, that's where
we start getting our physicalailments, that's where we start
getting disease and sickness.
Megan Mary (29:13):
Absolutely, and that's what I always say is that
when we don't tend to ourspirit, then we create a state
of disease in the body and thenwe get more and more out of
alignment and our conditions getworse and worse, which is what
happened to me until we start tosay I need to address something
(29:36):
.
I don't know what it is, but Ihave to.
You can't go on this way and Ineed to figure out what it is
that I'm not paying attention toand that can help me heal
inside, not just on a cellularlevel.
Julianna Whitlow (29:53):
Not getting stuck and just healing the
physical body.
Megan Mary (29:56):
Right.
So what should everyone stopdoing and start doing when they
want to go down this road anddiscover their clear senses?
Julianna Whitlow (30:12):
Give yourself grace.
Give yourself grace.
Let go of the judgment, let goof holding yourself to a certain
standard you know, and justgive yourself grace and be open.
To be open to be honest, beopen, surrender and be open,
because you will be surprisedabout what comes your way, and
the more open you are, the moreyou're going to gain out of it.
Megan Mary (30:37):
And what should everyone stop doing?
Julianna Whitlow (30:42):
Stop trying to define yourself through other
people's lenses.
Megan Mary (30:50):
Yes, it's very powerful.
Yes, so what's next for you onyour journey?
Julianna Whitlow (30:58):
I have the surrender program, which is a
program I absolutely love rightnow, where we focus on different
techniques to truly healyourself mind, body and soul to
allow you to not only open upyour clairs but live through
them, have them every day, havethem guide you, truly live
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through your clairs andexperience it just like we live
through our physical senses.
Right, we don't even thinkabout seeing or hearing, or
touching, or we just do so,allowing yourself to truly live
through your class.
Megan Mary (31:37):
And what other programs do you offer?
I saw some other Holy Fire.
Julianna Whitlow (31:44):
Reiki.
Yes, we have a group programand we have a couple of people
that have offered a Holy FireReiki and you can learn how to
do Holy Fire Reiki as well as wehave the Claire's, we have
Surrender, we have the Holy FireReiki and different retreats
that we host every yearWonderful, wonderful.
We actually have one coming upin October.
Megan Mary (32:07):
Oh, okay.
Julianna Whitlow (32:08):
Tennessee.
Megan Mary (32:09):
yes, so where can people find you online?
Where are you around the innerwebs?
Julianna Whitlow (32:16):
Yeah, so my website is aclairmindsetcom, or
my biggest one is TikTok.
It's A underscore, claire,underscore mindset, and we can
put that in the notes becausethere's a lot of fake accounts,
unfortunately, but so that waythey can look at it truly.
And then we have a Facebookgroup called the Thinline, and
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that's where we really work onkeeping one foot in the physical
, one foot in the spiritual, andwe walk that thin line every
day.
Megan Mary (32:48):
So if you could give the listeners a brief
explanation before we go aboutthe different Claire's, giving a
little bit of time to each one,because I feel like we may have
piqued their interest but wemay not have said enough about
each one.
So let's go through each oneand just say a little bit about
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how they work.
Julianna Whitlow (33:10):
Claire's sentence.
There's a few different typesof Claire's sentence but we're
gonna grab it into one and it'sreally clear feeling.
This can be physical feeling.
You can physically feel thingson your body like response,
touches, things like that.
It can be emotions andunderstanding those different
emotions.
One of mine was what was thequestion and anxiety through my
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whole life.
And then when I realizedClaire's sentence and I realized
how to work with my Claire'ssentence, I was able to
completely change my life andnot be ruled by that depression
and anxiety because I realizedI'm picking up other people's
energy.
So knowing how to work withyour Claire's so that you're not
always open and just grabbingeverything and feeling
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everything, is really important.
And Claire's sentence can be alittle difficult because it's
not physical and I kept thinkingsomething's wrong with me, it's
me and it wasn't, it was whatit was around me and being able
to understand that.
So a block with Claire'ssentence that we come up with is
knowing and understanding whatyou're truly feeling and
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understanding why you're feelingit.
So that was kind of like a bigthing about Claire's sentence
Knowing how to understand, howto shield yourself, how to kind
of block the energy around youso you can understand what is
truly yours versus what issomeone else's.
Claire Violence is seeing andpeople see many different ways.
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You can physically see energyright in front of you with your
physical eyes.
Some people it is in the mind'seye and some people almost turn
it as imagination and it comesthrough different.
I love you.
All say a movie view, we'llplay in front of them.
We go to see like a movie gothrough.
There's so many differentversions of Claire's violence
and allowing yourself to be opento that.
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A great way to know aboutClaire's violence is when you
listen to music does your mindkind of take off somewhere and
all of a sudden this whole storyis playing in your head and you
have like all these charactersand all this stuff going on and
you can like almost see it.
That's a great example ofClaire's violence.
So when you're reading a book,can you see the characters, can
you actually see them in yourmind and that's Claire's
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violence.
So allowing yourself to say, oh, that's Claire's violence,
that's not just my imagination,and that allows you to expand
into how do you use that forenergy senses.
A block with Claire's violenceis one, defining it, trying to
stick to a specific definition,and two, fear.
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The biggest one I see is fear,the fear of seeing.
Claire audience is clear hearingand yes, you can hear physical
voices.
You can also.
It's almost like a voice inyour own mind.
It's your own voice that comesthrough, but you wouldn't have
any other knowledge of it.
So it's almost like thisinformation comes through to you
.
A great way to exercise withClaire audience is music and
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seeing what kind of messagescomes through for you with music
.
Maybe a certain phrase sticksout, maybe a certain sentence,
maybe the whole song plays, sowhat is it that is coming
through for you?
Another one is when you readand you're reading different
characters, do the charactershave different voices?
Like, as you're reading and thecharacters have started, do the
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characters all of a sudden havedifferent voices to you?
The form of Claire audience andbeing able to tap into that and
then move it to being able touse it for your energy senses.
And we have Claire Cognizance,which is knowing, clear knowing.
These are the people that youjust know things you don't
really understand how you knowit.
There's the wise people, thepeople that go to for advice
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older, they always seem olderthan what they really are and
the block with it is nottrusting and believing in it.
Right, we know it.
We say, okay, I know I shouldgo left, not right, but
logically right, shorter, so ofcourse I'm gonna go right.
Well, no, you did.
Claire Cognizance was tellingyou to go left.
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There's a reason you weresupposed to go left.
So, understanding those thingsand really accepting it and
stepping into it.
And then we have Claire Aliensand Claire Guston, which is
again the senses of taste andsmell and knowing that with
these there's so many differentvariations of it, you can
physically taste and physicallysmell.
Sometimes it's almost like amemory of it.
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Though A memory of a taste or amemory of a smell comes through
, we don't necessarilyphysically taste it or smell it,
and allowing ourselves to workwith it in the biggest block is
not trusting it.
It's the same thing I'll neverforget.
It was on a live one day onTikTok and I was like why am I
smelling peanut butter cookies?
(37:48):
Like someone's baking freshpeanut butter cookies?
I don't like peanut buttercookies, so why am I smelling
peanut butter cookies?
Someone on my live wasliterally baking peanut butter
cookies.
So trusting it and just havingfun with it and allowing
yourself to play with it whenI'm doing medium ship work or
anything like that.
A memory a lot of times willcome through.
Another strong one iscigarettes, the taste of the
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smell of cigarettes.
So, knowing what comes throughand then leaning into it,
getting curious is what I liketo say.
Get curious with it.
Why is it coming through withyou?
What is truly going on andallowing that to just happen?
Megan Mary (38:30):
That was wonderful.
Yes, man, everybody has themright.
They just don't know how to tapinto them or they don't realize
that they are.
So all of those things that yousaid and I love.
I mean, I'm a clear audience.
That's my strongest one, and Ihear song lyrics all the time in
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my dreams.
That are messages, and because Iam a huge music fan and I know
song lyrics very well tomillions of songs, they're all
stored in my subconscious and somy subconscious loves to send
me messages and song lyrics andso I will wake up with that song
in my head and it doesn't evenmatter if it's a song I like or
(39:12):
an artist I like, it's justsomething I know and it's that
one piece, it's that one littlepiece of the song you know, and
so I teach that in my course toreally pay attention to that,
because it's it's, it'sdefinitely one of those ways
that you can hear and then alsobe receiving.
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Hearing and receiving thosemessages and also so much of
what you said about the memoryof a scent or the memory of a
taste.
I feel like that is also one ofthe ways that we literally time
travel, because we return tothat moment when we smelt or
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tasted that and we can rememberit as if we are, and in that
moment the time and space are NA, like they just kind of melt
away and we're able toexperience something from
another time and space in thissame one.
Julianna Whitlow (40:20):
And so and so many very powerful ones to be
with you when you have thosememories also come through.
You know, mine is apple juice.
I swear to you, my grandmotherhad this certain type of apple
juice, which she really didn't.
It was a store-bought applejuice, but to me, for some
reason, it tastes totallydifferent.
I can never find it, but Iremember the taste and every
time that taste comes, the whole.
I can see her whole entirekitchen.
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I can see her standing there.
I can totally experience itagain, and that's the beauty of
it, if you allow yourself tojust step back and allow it.
Megan Mary (40:49):
So that's it.
Yes, so when we were sellingour last house, we were having a
hard time initially selling it.
We had tons of people come inand look at it and then we
finally had this couple come inand they left and we went into
the kitchen to make dinner and Iwas unloading the dishwasher
and I bent over and I saw her atthe dishwasher unloading the
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dishwasher and I said it's goingto be them and it was, and so
it's that kind of thing.
Right, it's just, you just getthis.
It's almost for people whodon't know they're just think of
it as an idea.
Yeah, I had this idea.
Okay, I had this idea, becausethat's how it is and it seems
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more mysterious than that.
When other people are talkingabout it, you're like but I
don't have this great vision.
You know, it's just a passingthought, really, but it's in
your mind's eye.
And then you kind of go oh,that was weird.
I just, I was just thinkingabout this and that's really.
That's really how it is.
(41:54):
To demystify it a little bit,because I think so many people
go oh well, I've had that andit's like yes, you have.
Julianna Whitlow (42:03):
Everyone has right.
Megan Mary (42:04):
Right.
Julianna Whitlow (42:05):
It's just about allowing yourself to be
open to it.
Megan Mary (42:09):
Yes, yes, that's.
It's all about being open.
Yes, and that's really thebeauty of what any kind of
self-help work or any kind ofpersonal discovery work, and
also with dream work you have tobe open.
You have to be willing to sayokay, I'm going to dive into
this mystery, because maybethere is something going on that
I'm not acknowledging, and I'mgoing to grow by acknowledging
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this, and this is going to makemy life fuller and better.
And, yeah, like you said, it'ssetting aside the fear, because
that's really what stopseveryone right.
Julianna Whitlow (42:42):
It is, it is what stops absolutely everyone.
They hit that fear, that fearand sometimes even anger,
because right anger can some, alot of times covers up fear.
Megan Mary (42:52):
Yeah.
Julianna Whitlow (42:53):
And they stop right there.
Megan Mary (42:54):
Yeah Well, thank you so much for sharing all of this
with us today.
It was a wonderful conversation.
I hope it sparked an interestand intrigue in other people and
that they will start, you know,questioning, opening to maybe
the possibilities of what theycan actually do.
Julianna Whitlow (43:15):
Absolutely, and thank you so much for having
me.
Megan Mary (43:16):
It's been so much fun.
Thank you.
Welcome.
Today we have Julianna Whitlow.
She is a spiritualself-discovery coach that
supports those that have gonethrough a significant life event
that has racked their coreidentity and are now seeking to
answer the question who am I?
Through tools such as soulretrieval and soul reflection,
she helps you unlock your soul'smemory of who you really are by
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opening up your Claire's energysenses.
Julianna Whitlow (00:31):
Welcome, juliana Hi thank you for having
me so excited.
Megan Mary (00:36):
Yes, I'm so happy to have you here too.
I love this topic and I haven'thad really anyone speak about
it yet on my podcast, so I'mreally honored to have you here
to share that with everyone.
Julianna Whitlow (00:50):
Honest to be here.
This is going to be great.
Megan Mary (00:53):
So my first question that I ask everyone is what
does enlightenment mean to you?
Julianna Whitlow (00:59):
Enlightenment to me is about remembering who
you are and tapping into thatsoul essence, truly
understanding who you are as asoul being.
Megan Mary (01:13):
Yes, I completely agree with that, and I think
it's so much the journey that weare all on and the challenge
that we face right, it's like wemight.
We may know that, but we don'tknow how to do that.
Julianna Whitlow (01:27):
Exactly.
Megan Mary (01:30):
So tell the listeners a little bit about
your journey to discovering theClaire's, and then we'll talk
about what the Claire's are.
Julianna Whitlow (01:38):
Okay, so my journey started in 2020, and I
always find this veryinteresting because if you would
have explained to me who I ambefore 2020, a spiritual person
would not even come close.
Who I am today would not evenbe close to what I would use to
explain myself.
And this came about byexperiencing.
(02:03):
What I now know is what isClaire's sentence, which is
Claire feeling.
So that's about tapping intoyour energy sense of feeling,
feeling energy around you, and Ikind of got slapped over the
head, so to speak, with anexperience where grief hit me
significantly, a death hit mesignificantly, and it was a
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death of an animal, and when Iexperienced it, I felt
everything.
I felt it take its last breath,I felt the fear, I felt the
peace and it left me in one ofthose things of like, what in
the world was that and what isthis about?
It rocked me to my core, so tospeak, and it set me on a
(02:46):
discovery of what is it, what isthis, what's going on?
And that's why I got introducedto your energy senses, or your
Claire's, and understanding thatour players are just like our
physical senses, but instead ofusing them for the physical
world, we use them for theenergetic world.
It allows us to connect in todifferent energies.
(03:08):
Of course we have Claire'ssentence, which I just spoke
about, which is feeling or clearfeeling, and then we have
Claire's voice, which is seeingClaire's audience, which is
hearing, claire's cognizance,which is knowing Claire's aliens
, and Claire's gussence, whichis tasting and smelling, and
there's a bunch more, but thoseare the big ones that we usually
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talk about and we're able totap into those to receive
different messages, differentguidance to help us through our
journey.
Megan Mary (03:39):
That was a really great short explanation because
I think so many people don'treally.
They've heard of clairvoyance,probably, but not of the others,
and also just don't reallyunderstand how they're different
from other terms that they hearevery day, so how those are
different from psychic or mediumor empath or channel, for
(04:05):
example, because those are morecommon, I think, exactly.
Julianna Whitlow (04:10):
And we can all experience those.
We all have.
We have all the players.
We experience them differently.
So, just like I mightexperience touch differently
than you might experience touch,our players are the same.
So a lot of times we seeclairvoyance.
I'll use that as a greatexample.
There's a lot of people knowthat as physically seeing with
(04:30):
the eyes it can be.
It could also be seeing withthe mind's eye.
It could also be termed as animagination and it's a way of
seeing things outside of thephysical reality and everyone
experiences those differently.
So understanding one, how youexperience them.
Two, what is your strongestplayer.
And then three, going fromthere and tapping into the other
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players and being a psychic orbeing a medium, is communicating
with energy.
So once you learn how to openup your players and use those
senses, really it's limitless onwhat you can do as long as you
are wanting to do that, becauseit is all about what you want,
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how you want to live.
Megan Mary (05:21):
I love the name of your business a clair mindset
and partly because I think it'sa great plan words, right, it's
using.
But then there's another twistright, which is my middle name
is Claire.
So that's even more fabulous.
Julianna Whitlow (05:37):
Yes, what are those things?
Well, like, we talk about, youknow, destiny, and we talk about
purpose, and we talk all aboutthat.
And you know it came to meabout a year ago.
They're like how about clear,we've made the name of your
business and what you weresupposed to focus on, and do we
literally put it in your name?
We put it in your middle nameand I'm like that makes a lot of
(05:58):
sense.
Thank you for the guidance.
Yes, yes.
Megan Mary (06:02):
Seeing the forest for the trees, or right.
So, in your experience, how dopeople usually discover their
gifts, and is there one thatusually comes first, or is it
(06:23):
different for everyone?
Julianna Whitlow (06:24):
It is different for everyone.
Honestly, especially with theClaire's.
I have a quiz on my websitethat I can give you the link to
so that people can go and takethe quiz and it can tell them
the strongest Claire and thenthey can kind of start from
there on their journey.
But it's about interest andabout understanding it.
A lot of times people usuallyhave a significant event that
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happens and that's what triggersthem into going down this path.
There's very few and I'm seeingit actually picking up recently
of who are just curious andjust wanting to start.
You lose usually a significantevent of, like, what in the
world just happened and who am Ireally?
And that's what starts on thatwhole journey.
Our gifts is aboutunderstanding who we are at a
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soul level, because that's whatour gifts are.
It's about bringing who wetruly are to the surface and
living through that.
Megan Mary (07:21):
I found that same exact thing that something has
to usually really rock you,shift you.
It can be a loss or a major youknow, in my case, medical
catastrophe, or just somethingmajor that really makes you
(07:42):
question and also reevaluate.
And something that you had saidwhen you initially had reached
out to me was that are welearning?
Our gifts and abilities arejust remembering, and that
resonated with me so muchbecause I often say the word
spiritual awakening but for meand for so many others it's a
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remembering.
Julianna Whitlow (08:07):
It really is, when a lot of times when I see a
work with clients, they'retaking this as something that
we've learned in school.
They're trying to put what theyhave physically done and how
they physically learn toexpanding onto their players,
into the gifts, and it's atotally different approach
because it's about going withand and really remembering and
(08:30):
healing to be able to open thatback up.
I believe that we're born withthis and at some point in our
lives, through different events,we have closed this off and it
could be something as what wejust didn't use it right,
because if we don't use oursenses, they're going to dole.
So when we're in a physicalworld, we're not using our
energetic senses the furnitureto dole.
(08:51):
So it is about remembering andtapping back into that, but also
stepping back a little bit fromthe physical world.
Megan Mary (08:58):
Yes, and so often people just discard and
disregard their what they're.
They are sensing and they aregetting information and they are
seeing coincidence and they areseeing synchronicities and they
are saying, isn't that weirdthat?
Oh, I had this, you know,feeling that, but they just
(09:19):
don't know what to do with it.
They don't know how.
If it's into this 3D world andthey don't, they're very afraid
in most cases to embrace it,much less come out in public and
talk about it, which is a wholeanother ballgame.
And it's really because there'sso much baggage and cultural
(09:41):
judgment about that type ofability or expression or
awareness, because it's notsomething that's so concrete and
so it's not as accepted.
And then there's a lot of feararound really stepping into
(10:03):
alignment with that and owningthat.
And so so many women have theseabilities already happening in
their life and we all do but somany are so gifted to and
they're just not harnessing itand they're not embracing it and
they're pushing it down becausethey don't really know how to
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make that exist in the worldthat they are living in.
Julianna Whitlow (10:29):
Exactly, and you know I'm working with one of
my clients now.
She is like how do I balance myreligion, my upbringing, my
beliefs and my spirituality?
And I said you accept them asone in the same.
You put them together andaccept them as one in the same
because they truly are.
It's about understanding whereyou are aligning and what your
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soul is pushing you to and beingcomfortable with sometimes that
not being accepted in ourphysical world my family,
friends, acquaintances and beingokay to stand in your truth,
because I was one of thosepeople who, very black and white
, very black and white, veryphysical you cannot physically
(11:15):
prove it in front of me I wasnot going to believe it.
But when I experienced thatremembering without awakening, I
physically experienced it.
Now my family and everyone werelike you've just lost your mind
.
But for me, I knew my truth andthe one thing that's always
been guiding light to me is mytruth.
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My whole life is my truth and Ihave to stand in my truth.
Yes, so with that, over yearsof healing and everything else,
I've been able to get where I amnow.
But it's so important to honoryour truth, who you really are.
Megan Mary (11:56):
Yes, thank you for saying that.
I think that's what everyoneneeds to hear.
To be honest, and like you said, yes, there is a fear that
everyone's going to say, well,you're a little you know, you
know and, and you're.
There's a lot of concern aboutthat, right, and it's in the end
of the end of the day, youcan't live your life based on
what other people are going tosay, especially when you feel so
(12:19):
compelled, so drawn.
And particularly in myexperience, there was this real
sense of urgency and this real,like you said, palpable,
physical way that I wasperceiving Okay, yes, I don't
know what this is exactly, butit's never going to be the same
(12:40):
and I can't go back and I haveto go forward as fast as
possible.
Julianna Whitlow (12:45):
Right, you get the beginning, you're like we
have to go as fast as.
I experienced that as well, andI experienced it with my
clients is like as fast aspossible to, because it's almost
uncomfortable.
You're not fully cracked open,but you're not fully open and
comfortable and you're who youare.
So you're like in this inbetween and I can feel very
uncomfortable, very unsettling.
So I totally relate to that.
Megan Mary (13:07):
And that's like what you said about, just kind of
that, looking at the senses, thefive physical senses as
everyone accepts, and then theClaire senses and how they might
not be the same for everyone.
For example, the thought, theidea that maybe your, if you're
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Claire, our audience, the ideathat you're quote, unquote,
hearing voices, which of courseis another trope, and another
you know, societal construct.
Right, because it doesn't, itdoesn't really work that way.
It's not exactly like you think, you know, like a psychotic
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break.
That's not like that, you know.
And so I think there's a lot ofhuge amount of misconceptions
around, and also around, ofcourse, claire warrants.
And what do you?
What do you find the biggestand biggest misconceptions are
around the different clairs, andmaybe the blockage is that
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either people that you work withhave or people that you
interact with.
Julianna Whitlow (14:18):
The first one.
The biggest one is everyonewants it right now, they want to
work on it, they want to befully open, they want all their
players on.
And I'm going to give you agreat example of why we don't
want this.
And at 10 years old we foundout he had hearing loss and he
needs to go get hearing aids.
So we went and did the wholeprocess and we came home with
hearing aids and on the way homehe was so overwhelmed he just
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couldn't take the noise, thesound of the cars, the wind,
just absolutely everything.
He was just I have to turnthese off, I have to take this
out.
It's just too overwhelming forme.
I went from whatever his normalwas of hearing to all the way
open, all the way able to hearevery little thing that came
through, and I would be talking.
I got accustomed to talkingkind of loud because again he
(15:06):
had a little bit of hearing lossand he's like why are you
yelling?
I need you to lower your voiceand I'm like I promise I'm not
yelling at you.
These are great examples of whywe don't want, all of a sudden,
every clear open, because it'lljust hit you and it's so
overwhelming.
You want to be able to heal andprocess and make it more of a
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journey.
And then the other ones is fear.
The biggest block is fear andthere's so many different layers
of fear Fear of being seen,fear of being known, fear of
being hurt, what we've been told, you know all these different
things.
And so fear is a big one thatwe have to overcome and a lot of
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people what we do is we labelit as one thing.
But then when I work withpeople and I say let's break
this down and let's go, and I'mlike, if you're not into the
probably the first five years ofyour life, you haven't hit the
real reason of where this istruly coming from, because that
is where these blocks occurredand that happened, and there's
(16:12):
been time and time again that isrepeated and therefore concrete
it itself into our subconsciousthat this isn't safe or that we
can't do this.
So a lot of times you'll seethat where cycles repeat and
what that's showing you is it'shonestly telling your
subconscious and your consciousthat, see, I was right.
(16:33):
That's the ego coming throughand saying I was right, this
isn't safe.
Here's another example of it.
This is just changing the waywe look at it and just saying,
oh, this is a great opportunityto walk through, to understand,
to see the purpose of it, to getto the true reasoning.
So it's all about yourperspective and how you want to
(16:55):
approach things.
It's one way of saying how weapproach things, almost like a
victim mentality, versus reallystanding in your power and
saying this didn't happen to me,this happened for me.
Megan Mary (17:08):
Yes, and I'd like you to incorporate into that the
surrender concept, because Iwas listening to you talk about
that earlier today and I thought, yeah, this is really an
important piece here too.
Julianna Whitlow (17:21):
Yes, so my logo is a woman's face and she
has flowers all over her eyes,and the purpose of that logo is
that we have to trust andsurrender to the universe
without any physical senses tobe guided on our journey.
We might not know physicallywhere we're going, we might not
(17:41):
be able to physically sense it,but we have to fully surrender
to be able to walk through it.
And that is the mostcomplicated thing for a lot of
us.
We want to hold on to some typeof control.
We think we're in full control.
So, allowing yourself to fullysurrender and trust and let go
(18:05):
and follow the guidance and knowwhen the guidance is coming,
that's the key to unlocking allof it.
Megan Mary (18:12):
Yes, I thought that was so profound and important
that I just wanted to bring thatup because it's really
difficult.
We're always struggling to, wewant to be guided, we want to
activate all of our highestgifts, but we also struggle so
hard holding on to the tether ofthis reality.
(18:33):
And we have to right Because wehave to exist here.
And so it's like how do webalance those two?
And we want to just be able tosay go ahead and show me.
Basically, and that's what I'vebeen wanting to say, because I
actually had a dream where I wassaying show me.
(18:53):
Very strongly.
And it was part of this wholejourney where I then was shown.
And really the dreams for meare a huge portal where all of
this guidance comes through.
And when I started listening tothem all this beautiful story
(19:16):
and messages and guidance andeverything was coming through
like wow, I mean it's all reallyhappening there.
But then when I would wake upand realize it was all really
happening here too, oh yeah,absolutely, and I was
surrendering to it, I was saying, ok, I had no plans to do this,
(19:36):
but I know that I'm beingcalled, so show me what I'm
supposed to do.
And the more I followed that,the more it just opened up the
world.
I mean correct, open the world,you know, absolutely.
And people, women fromeverywhere just started coming
in saying, yes, I want to be apart of this, and had I not
surrendered to that, that wouldhave never been possible.
Julianna Whitlow (20:01):
No, and one of the things.
I speak about this and it wassuch a small thing going on in
my life but it was driving menuts.
We were trying to renovate ourhouse and we could not find
construction personnel, we couldnot find the right person to do
it, and we were getting sofrustrated and finally my
husband had had it and he's likewe're doing it ourselves, and
(20:22):
we took a sledgehammer to thewall one day.
The very next morning I got acall that someone needed a place
to live and was moving fromFlorida to Virginia, and they
were a construction worker,someone that could come and do
the renovation of the house.
So it's literally about I wentand months of fighting and I'm
(20:43):
like, no, I have to do it thisway, I have to be searched, I
have to call the people, I haveto find my person, I have to
take control of it.
And the second I said okay,let's say I'm done, take a slide
camera to the wall.
Everything just fell into place.
And I was like that is areminder to myself to truly step
back and surrender.
Megan Mary (21:01):
Right, yes, and it's such a delicate balance, like I
was saying, because there issome aspect of doing once you
receive the guidance, but it'sknowing where that line is where
you're overdoing, I guess, andoverdoing turns into controlling
(21:21):
and expectation versusfollowing.
It's a very fine line.
Julianna Whitlow (21:27):
The other thing, too, for me is with some
members am I hitting a fear?
Because before we took theslide camera to the wall, there
was fear.
There was absolute fear rightOf like.
We don't know what we're doing,we can't do this, how it's,
what are the repercussions allof that?
There was fear, and once Ireally sat down and started
working through the fear ofwhere it was coming from, I
realized it doesn't apply to thesituation of end.
(21:47):
It is not my truth in themoment that I am in right now.
And once I accepted that andtook the slide camera,
everything works through.
So the piece of it is are youcoming up against fear?
Because if you're coming upagainst fear, I encourage you to
step back and really see isthis a moment for you to
surrender to the fear, to workthrough it and see what is the
(22:08):
message that's trying to be toldto you?
Megan Mary (22:09):
Yes, yes, it's powerful.
I wanna also talk a little bitabout your work as a death
priestess.
I find this very fascinating,and I know it's not something
that is very common, and so I'dlove for you to explain your how
you came to do that work andwhat is involved in that.
Julianna Whitlow (22:33):
Absolutely.
It started out with mediumship.
I started out with mediumshipand going through that and then,
after finding a group of people, I started understanding what
death, work and things reallywere and I started understanding
some of my dreams.
And I would love to experiencein my dreams is when I dream,
(22:58):
it's almost as if I'm not myself, I'm someone else and most of
the time I experience theperson's death, what happened in
that person's death, andthrough the dream it can be a
little harsh because I canliterally sense it, feel it, all
of that, and it's almost likeI'm helping the spirit of the
soul work through whatever itwas that happened.
(23:21):
However, they came to pass, andI get different shots of kind
of what happened, what occurred,and through that, what I've
realized is it kind of helps thesoul heal and move on.
So started out with mediumshipand then, when I've had that
understanding of my dreams, Iwas like that was a big eye
(23:44):
opener for me Because I haddreamed this my whole life.
I just never understood it.
I thought they were nightmares,right, and I kept saying but
it's not me, it's not me goingthrough it.
It's like I'm seeing it, but Iknew it wasn't me.
But I would still come to saythey're nightmares.
That's what I always been toldand then when I sat there and I
was like, no, this isn'tnightmares, this is me helping
(24:06):
someone or helping a soul heal,and that has helped me
understand the different gifts Ihave of being able to work with
souls that I have passed.
The other reason I call myself adeath priestess is the death
card and the high priestess cardin Carol.
You put those two together.
(24:27):
That's my energy and I helppeople navigate those times in
their life.
They have death moments wheresomething has come to an end, a
significant change in their life, whether it be a physical death
or it be a loss or it be an endof a relationship or something
new is beginning, and they'resitting here like I don't even
know who I am anymore.
(24:47):
I help people navigate that.
I believe that we walk a thinline, with one foot in the
physical world, one foot in thespiritual world, and I help
people navigate that thin lineso that they can keep the one
foot in the physical world, onefoot in the spiritual world and
fully understand who they are.
Megan Mary (25:07):
Yes, our work overlaps so much right there.
Yes, because I really feel thatI straddle the realms completely
and that middle space betweenwaking and dreaming and really
spending so much time delvinginto the darkness and the
shadows and the inner worldthat's so mystical of dreams,
(25:30):
and then helping people bringthat into this life to integrate
those wisdom, those learningsthemselves, that really so many
times they are in transition andit could be any kind, any
number of transitional periodsthat can bring you to that point
(25:54):
.
In fact, I have a dream journeycalled the Crossroads for that
reason, that really focuses onany kind of transition that
might happen, and sometimespeople don't understand that
loss and the term trauma can infact be much smaller things than
(26:14):
they think that means.
They always think it meansviolence or death and there are
so many forms of loss and somany forms of trauma that the
definition really doesn't giveit to a justice.
It's all the differentemotional things that we need to
(26:35):
clear that we also store in oursubconscious and, as you were
saying earlier, it's all a lotof it from our childhood, I
think, the majority of oursubconscious forms from age you
know, birth to seven, and so somany things that we learn about
how we think the world is getscemented, like you said then,
(27:01):
and then we just build our lifearound them and we go around
thinking, well, that's the wayit is.
And we don't realize that we'rejust listening to our
subconscious and the what welearned.
It's a point, but it's notnecessarily that reality for
other people and it can doesn'thave to be for us that we can
(27:21):
change that by really unearthingand, in my case, decoding what
those things are that we'recarrying with us.
Julianna Whitlow (27:31):
Absolutely.
And that's one of the thingslike when you're doing a soul
work and the trauma work, it'simportant to understand and I
like how you broke that down.
It's not always these bigthings, you know.
A lot of times it's I'll begrieving and I'm like what am I
even grieving over?
And then it'll be this, this,it'll come to me and I'm like
that's so small, I don't have aright to grieve over it.
And it's like, yes, you do.
You really have to step backand give yourself permission.
(27:54):
And one of the things I waslike to tell people is we really
go through a death moment when,every single day, we go to
sleep and we are not the sameperson we were yesterday.
We are reborn every day, everymoment, so understanding that
there's a constant cycle of usallowing ourselves to be reborn,
to understand, to get a deeperunderstanding, and allowing
(28:15):
ourselves to just be open towhatever it is the universe is
trying to show us.
Megan Mary (28:21):
Yeah, I love that, I love thinking about it that way
, because there are so manysmall deaths, right, yeah, and
when we're on our journey, it'slike we constantly have to let
things die.
We have to let go of thingsevery day and to it's really,
(28:42):
whether whether we're doing itstrategically or on purpose or
not, it's the only way that wecan grow and actually evolve on
that enlightenment journey is toconstantly be willing to do
that Releasing right.
Julianna Whitlow (28:58):
And that's the point, part of releasing it
right.
We don't hold on to it.
We don't store the energysomewhere in us.
We allow it to go.
We let it go because if westore it within us, that's where
we start getting our physicalailments, that's where we start
getting disease and sickness.
Megan Mary (29:13):
Absolutely, and that's what I always say is that
when we don't tend to ourspirit, then we create a state
of disease in the body and thenwe get more and more out of
alignment and our conditions getworse and worse, which is what
happened to me until we start tosay I need to address something
(29:36):
.
I don't know what it is, but Ihave to.
You can't go on this way and Ineed to figure out what it is
that I'm not paying attention toand that can help me heal
inside, not just on a cellularlevel.
Julianna Whitlow (29:53):
Not getting stuck and just healing the
physical body.
Megan Mary (29:56):
Right.
So what should everyone stopdoing and start doing when they
want to go down this road anddiscover their clear senses?
Julianna Whitlow (30:12):
Give yourself grace.
Give yourself grace.
Let go of the judgment, let goof holding yourself to a certain
standard you know, and justgive yourself grace and be open.
To be open to be honest, beopen, surrender and be open,
because you will be surprisedabout what comes your way, and
the more open you are, the moreyou're going to gain out of it.
Megan Mary (30:37):
And what should everyone stop doing?
Julianna Whitlow (30:42):
Stop trying to define yourself through other
people's lenses.
Megan Mary (30:50):
Yes, it's very powerful.
Yes, so what's next for you onyour journey?
Julianna Whitlow (30:58):
I have the surrender program, which is a
program I absolutely love rightnow, where we focus on different
techniques to truly healyourself mind, body and soul to
allow you to not only open upyour clairs but live through
them, have them every day, havethem guide you, truly live
(31:22):
through your clairs andexperience it just like we live
through our physical senses.
Right, we don't even thinkabout seeing or hearing, or
touching, or we just do so,allowing yourself to truly live
through your class.
Megan Mary (31:37):
And what other programs do you offer?
I saw some other Holy Fire.
Julianna Whitlow (31:44):
Reiki.
Yes, we have a group programand we have a couple of people
that have offered a Holy FireReiki and you can learn how to
do Holy Fire Reiki as well as wehave the Claire's, we have
Surrender, we have the Holy FireReiki and different retreats
that we host every yearWonderful, wonderful.
We actually have one coming upin October.
Megan Mary (32:07):
Oh, okay.
Julianna Whitlow (32:08):
Tennessee.
Megan Mary (32:09):
yes, so where can people find you online?
Where are you around the innerwebs?
Julianna Whitlow (32:16):
Yeah, so my website is aclairmindsetcom, or
my biggest one is TikTok.
It's A underscore, claire,underscore mindset, and we can
put that in the notes becausethere's a lot of fake accounts,
unfortunately, but so that waythey can look at it truly.
And then we have a Facebookgroup called the Thinline, and
(32:38):
that's where we really work onkeeping one foot in the physical
, one foot in the spiritual, andwe walk that thin line every
day.
Megan Mary (32:48):
So if you could give the listeners a brief
explanation before we go aboutthe different Claire's, giving a
little bit of time to each one,because I feel like we may have
piqued their interest but wemay not have said enough about
each one.
So let's go through each oneand just say a little bit about
(33:08):
how they work.
Julianna Whitlow (33:10):
Claire's sentence.
There's a few different typesof Claire's sentence but we're
gonna grab it into one and it'sreally clear feeling.
This can be physical feeling.
You can physically feel thingson your body like response,
touches, things like that.
It can be emotions andunderstanding those different
emotions.
One of mine was what was thequestion and anxiety through my
(33:31):
whole life.
And then when I realizedClaire's sentence and I realized
how to work with my Claire'ssentence, I was able to
completely change my life andnot be ruled by that depression
and anxiety because I realizedI'm picking up other people's
energy.
So knowing how to work withyour Claire's so that you're not
always open and just grabbingeverything and feeling
(33:52):
everything, is really important.
And Claire's sentence can be alittle difficult because it's
not physical and I kept thinkingsomething's wrong with me, it's
me and it wasn't, it was whatit was around me and being able
to understand that.
So a block with Claire'ssentence that we come up with is
knowing and understanding whatyou're truly feeling and
(34:15):
understanding why you're feelingit.
So that was kind of like a bigthing about Claire's sentence
Knowing how to understand, howto shield yourself, how to kind
of block the energy around youso you can understand what is
truly yours versus what issomeone else's.
Claire Violence is seeing andpeople see many different ways.
(34:39):
You can physically see energyright in front of you with your
physical eyes.
Some people it is in the mind'seye and some people almost turn
it as imagination and it comesthrough different.
I love you.
All say a movie view, we'llplay in front of them.
We go to see like a movie gothrough.
There's so many differentversions of Claire's violence
and allowing yourself to be opento that.
(34:59):
A great way to know aboutClaire's violence is when you
listen to music does your mindkind of take off somewhere and
all of a sudden this whole storyis playing in your head and you
have like all these charactersand all this stuff going on and
you can like almost see it.
That's a great example ofClaire's violence.
So when you're reading a book,can you see the characters, can
you actually see them in yourmind and that's Claire's
(35:20):
violence.
So allowing yourself to say, oh, that's Claire's violence,
that's not just my imagination,and that allows you to expand
into how do you use that forenergy senses.
A block with Claire's violenceis one, defining it, trying to
stick to a specific definition,and two, fear.
(35:41):
The biggest one I see is fear,the fear of seeing.
Claire audience is clear hearingand yes, you can hear physical
voices.
You can also.
It's almost like a voice inyour own mind.
It's your own voice that comesthrough, but you wouldn't have
any other knowledge of it.
So it's almost like thisinformation comes through to you
.
A great way to exercise withClaire audience is music and
(36:06):
seeing what kind of messagescomes through for you with music
.
Maybe a certain phrase sticksout, maybe a certain sentence,
maybe the whole song plays, sowhat is it that is coming
through for you?
Another one is when you readand you're reading different
characters, do the charactershave different voices?
Like, as you're reading and thecharacters have started, do the
(36:26):
characters all of a sudden havedifferent voices to you?
The form of Claire audience andbeing able to tap into that and
then move it to being able touse it for your energy senses.
And we have Claire Cognizance,which is knowing, clear knowing.
These are the people that youjust know things you don't
really understand how you knowit.
There's the wise people, thepeople that go to for advice
(36:46):
older, they always seem olderthan what they really are and
the block with it is nottrusting and believing in it.
Right, we know it.
We say, okay, I know I shouldgo left, not right, but
logically right, shorter, so ofcourse I'm gonna go right.
Well, no, you did.
Claire Cognizance was tellingyou to go left.
(37:08):
There's a reason you weresupposed to go left.
So, understanding those thingsand really accepting it and
stepping into it.
And then we have Claire Aliensand Claire Guston, which is
again the senses of taste andsmell and knowing that with
these there's so many differentvariations of it, you can
physically taste and physicallysmell.
Sometimes it's almost like amemory of it.
(37:28):
Though A memory of a taste or amemory of a smell comes through
, we don't necessarilyphysically taste it or smell it,
and allowing ourselves to workwith it in the biggest block is
not trusting it.
It's the same thing I'll neverforget.
It was on a live one day onTikTok and I was like why am I
smelling peanut butter cookies?
(37:48):
Like someone's baking freshpeanut butter cookies?
I don't like peanut buttercookies, so why am I smelling
peanut butter cookies?
Someone on my live wasliterally baking peanut butter
cookies.
So trusting it and just havingfun with it and allowing
yourself to play with it whenI'm doing medium ship work or
anything like that.
A memory a lot of times willcome through.
Another strong one iscigarettes, the taste of the
(38:12):
smell of cigarettes.
So, knowing what comes throughand then leaning into it,
getting curious is what I liketo say.
Get curious with it.
Why is it coming through withyou?
What is truly going on andallowing that to just happen?
Megan Mary (38:30):
That was wonderful.
Yes, man, everybody has themright.
They just don't know how to tapinto them or they don't realize
that they are.
So all of those things that yousaid and I love.
I mean, I'm a clear audience.
That's my strongest one, and Ihear song lyrics all the time in
(38:50):
my dreams.
That are messages, and because Iam a huge music fan and I know
song lyrics very well tomillions of songs, they're all
stored in my subconscious and somy subconscious loves to send
me messages and song lyrics andso I will wake up with that song
in my head and it doesn't evenmatter if it's a song I like or
(39:12):
an artist I like, it's justsomething I know and it's that
one piece, it's that one littlepiece of the song you know, and
so I teach that in my course toreally pay attention to that,
because it's it's, it'sdefinitely one of those ways
that you can hear and then alsobe receiving.
(39:37):
Hearing and receiving thosemessages and also so much of
what you said about the memoryof a scent or the memory of a
taste.
I feel like that is also one ofthe ways that we literally time
travel, because we return tothat moment when we smelt or
(40:00):
tasted that and we can rememberit as if we are, and in that
moment the time and space are NA, like they just kind of melt
away and we're able toexperience something from
another time and space in thissame one.
Julianna Whitlow (40:20):
And so and so many very powerful ones to be
with you when you have thosememories also come through.
You know, mine is apple juice.
I swear to you, my grandmotherhad this certain type of apple
juice, which she really didn't.
It was a store-bought applejuice, but to me, for some
reason, it tastes totallydifferent.
I can never find it, but Iremember the taste and every
time that taste comes, the whole.
I can see her whole entirekitchen.
(40:41):
I can see her standing there.
I can totally experience itagain, and that's the beauty of
it, if you allow yourself tojust step back and allow it.
Megan Mary (40:49):
So that's it.
Yes, so when we were sellingour last house, we were having a
hard time initially selling it.
We had tons of people come inand look at it and then we
finally had this couple come inand they left and we went into
the kitchen to make dinner and Iwas unloading the dishwasher
and I bent over and I saw her atthe dishwasher unloading the
(41:10):
dishwasher and I said it's goingto be them and it was, and so
it's that kind of thing.
Right, it's just, you just getthis.
It's almost for people whodon't know they're just think of
it as an idea.
Yeah, I had this idea.
Okay, I had this idea, becausethat's how it is and it seems
(41:33):
more mysterious than that.
When other people are talkingabout it, you're like but I
don't have this great vision.
You know, it's just a passingthought, really, but it's in
your mind's eye.
And then you kind of go oh,that was weird.
I just, I was just thinkingabout this and that's really.
That's really how it is.
(41:54):
To demystify it a little bit,because I think so many people
go oh well, I've had that andit's like yes, you have.
Julianna Whitlow (42:03):
Everyone has right.
Megan Mary (42:04):
Right.
Julianna Whitlow (42:05):
It's just about allowing yourself to be
open to it.
Megan Mary (42:09):
Yes, yes, that's.
It's all about being open.
Yes, and that's really thebeauty of what any kind of
self-help work or any kind ofpersonal discovery work, and
also with dream work you have tobe open.
You have to be willing to sayokay, I'm going to dive into
this mystery, because maybethere is something going on that
I'm not acknowledging, and I'mgoing to grow by acknowledging
(42:32):
this, and this is going to makemy life fuller and better.
And, yeah, like you said, it'ssetting aside the fear, because
that's really what stopseveryone right.
Julianna Whitlow (42:42):
It is, it is what stops absolutely everyone.
They hit that fear, that fearand sometimes even anger,
because right anger can some, alot of times covers up fear.
Megan Mary (42:52):
Yeah.
Julianna Whitlow (42:53):
And they stop right there.
Megan Mary (42:54):
Yeah Well, thank you so much for sharing all of this
with us today.
It was a wonderful conversation.
I hope it sparked an interestand intrigue in other people and
that they will start, you know,questioning, opening to maybe
the possibilities of what theycan actually do.
Julianna Whitlow (43:15):
Absolutely, and thank you so much for having
me.
Megan Mary (43:16):
It's been so much fun.
Thank you.
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