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Jess (00:00):
Hello everyone, welcome
back to Work.
Besties, burn out is real, buthere's the truth Taking breaks
isn't slacking.
It's the secret to workingsmarter, not harder.
In this episode, we're going tobreak down the science of why
stepping away really does boostyour focus, creativity and
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overall well-being.
Plus, we're here to share sometangible, actionable tips to
make your breaks more meaningful, whether you're doing them by
yourself or with a work vest.
Claude (00:36):
And we will try to do it
as well, because we don't
always do it.
Jess (00:41):
So stick around to the end
for a challenge that could
transform your work day and yourfriendships.
Trust us, this is the break youdon't want to miss.
Claude (00:50):
Hi, I'm Claude and I'm
Jess.
We are corporate employees byday, entrepreneurs by night and
work besties for life.
Jess (00:58):
Join us as we explore how
work besties lift each other up,
laugh through the chaos andthrive together in every
industry.
Work besties Great.
So this is all about breaks andthe power and interesting
elements of what breaks can dofor us.
So I'm going to start offbecause you know I love fun
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facts.
You like fun facts?
Claude (01:20):
I'm a big fan of fun
facts you like insights, all
that insights and what thescience behind things mean.
Jess (01:26):
So I have a very fun,
compelling fact for you.
I wrote it down so I don't getit wrong.
Did you know taking regularbreaks can boost your
productivity by up to how long?
Claude (01:38):
40% 40%, 40%.
Yes, it's so funny because itseems counteractive,
counterintuitive.
Jess (01:46):
Thank you.
Claude (01:48):
Right, because you would
think I cannot stop.
I have to work.
Jess (01:53):
That you would get more
done by just charging through it
.
No, in fact, a study by theJournal of Applied Psychology
found that when you explorethose little bit of breaks, even
if they're micro breaks, thatyour mental performance improves
.
What is?
Claude (02:09):
micro break Like what do
you consider Great?
Jess (02:11):
question.
So micro break could be takinganything from about a 30 second
to like a five minute break awayfrom whatever you're doing to
really kind of get your mindaway from it to think about
something else.
So think about like you'reworking on your computer nonstop
, really at a well, I'll talkabout mine creating a compelling
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PowerPoint presentation that'sgoing to tell you the next
biggest thing that's happeningwith certain consumers and where
they're going to go.
It really would make more senseafter about 30 minutes to an
hour to take that step back andtake at least a 30-second break
to just stop, Don't look at yourcomputer and really think about
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something else before you getback into it.
Claude (02:57):
And that will make us
more productive.
Jess (03:00):
Right, because what it's
doing is it's improving your
mental fatigue.
So if you're staring at acomputer, especially a computer
screen, or even if you'restaring at an individual or in
you know, a team meeting or abrainstorming session or
something of that nature, ifyou're staring nonstop into this
group and so mentally andphysically right your eyes too
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focused, that it actually, overtime, it causes you to almost
exert yourself, let's say so.
Just taking those little bit ofbreaks will help get you back
right into it that's so cool andI know that you.
Claude (03:36):
You saw there are a lot
of studies there's a lot of them
out there there was one thatactually I did like from the
Harvard Business Review, and itsays breaks are essential for
creative problem solving.
So they explained that whenpeople step away from mentally
taxing tasks, their mindscontinue working on the problem
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subconsciously and leading tobreakthroughs when they return,
and that is I mean kind of on.
I think we all yeah yeah, we Ithink we all experience that
that sometimes you stay awayfrom your computer from anything
and just start your mind startgoing away and that's why you
get your problem solving Right.
Jess (04:26):
I know it's always like do
you ever find I do this a lot
where you come home and you wantto take a shower to relax
before you get ready for bed, oreven early in the morning and
you're in the shower and youthink of the answer to all those
problems?
Oh yeah, I do that all the time.
You redo the world, the worldyeah, so like you're.
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You've been in an eight hourmeeting thinking about what are
the five things we can do to fixthis yeah and it probably takes
you all day to come up withfour and you're like I can't
think of a fifth.
You get in the shower in likefive seconds.
You're like, bam, I got the.
Claude (05:00):
So I had one that is not
very healthy but it did work at
the time and I was a smokerright A lot of time and your old
work besties in the train tohelping me also to stop that.
It's been three months, woohoo,but before that, a lot of time,
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I was going outside to have mycigarette and a lot of time I
was resolving things, things,yeah.
So so it wasn't.
Obviously it wasn't thecigarette, right, but it was
actually stepping out of theenvironment where I was to be
able and that when yeah, it wasso this goes back to that the
applied psychology study thatwas done, the applied journal of
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psychology.
Jess (05:54):
Their comment was that
during this 30 second to five
minute break you should reallystep into some type of physical
element.
And that doesn't necessarilymean you have to like get up and
do stretching or jumping jacks,although that would be good.
It literally could be somethingas simple as walking outside
and looking at nature, or evenjust hydrating, getting a big
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glass of water or gulping it andjust taking that step away.
So while the smoking is not thebest part, there's the most
positive for you what you did.
Claude (06:27):
Do that was positive,
you got outside of the element.
Jess (06:30):
You walked away from the
element you were in and you're
in nature.
You're standing outside lookingat other things, breathing
different air, and all of thatlike different air.
I didn't say it was healthierfor you.
Claude (06:44):
air it's probably filled
with congestion.
Yeah, and what they were sayingalso that this phenomenon often
referred to as incubation,incubation.
That's how you say it, Thankyou.
Incubation explains why manypeople experience aha moments
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while engaging in unrelatedactivities.
Totally makes sense.
Yeah, so that's when you haveyour aha in the shower outside.
Jess (07:14):
Sometimes I have it too
when I'm running.
So again, like your physicalendorphins or something else
going on, because I tend tothink, or even I used to listen
to music, now I listen topodcasts.
But whatever you're doing onthose things to kind of think
about you, you're kind of almostwiping your brain clean yeah,
yeah to help give you that it'slike exercising.
Claude (07:36):
You're exercising your
brain yeah, I would not know
it's like quitting smoking.
Jess (07:42):
You're trying every day,
just to strengthen a new.
Claude (07:46):
Every day is something
um, but you know, yeah, and and
it's so funny because a lot oftime, when even you, you know,
when you come and see me or Icome and see you and say, hey,
let's get up and have a coffeeor something, no, I don't have
time, I have to finish that, andmeanwhile we've been there for
an hour on our computer typetype.
(08:09):
It's actually.
We have to learn that it isokay.
It's even better to step out.
Jess (08:16):
Yeah, they say that, in
addition to the performance,
you're going to be a little bitmore rejuvenized, have a little
fresher perspective.
You also are a little bit moreaccurate too, because if you're
just plugging away at stuff, soyou're right.
I think I did that to you liketwice this past week, where you
come to me and I'm like don'thave time, I should just take
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the 30 seconds or a coupleminutes to walk, but it's all of
us, right, it's all of us.
Claude (08:40):
And they say also that
less errors, like when there was
, like the data entry orwhatever.
Jess (08:49):
It was the 2020 study that
was published in the journal
observed employees in an officesetting and found those who took
microbikes on average aboutfive minutes to just stretch,
get some water or brieflydisconnect experienced a
substantial increase in taskaccuracy and reduction in errors
in all types of repetitive work.
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So you're right, it was likedata entry type stuff, so you
got good memory, yeah, yeah.
Claude (09:16):
So it was so funny at
some point, I mean for the
little story.
So because I'm don't godownstairs anymore and I was
telling my team, each time Iwant to have a cigarette, I'm
doing push-ups against the wall.
Have you done that I've beendoing you have how buffer your
arms?
Not enough.
(09:37):
By the end of this year, you'regonna be like oh, I'm going to
be like you'll be bench pressingme that's not hard.
Jess (09:48):
You're so light sure, okay
, um, so why don't we move into
some recommendations then forour work?
Bestie community want to gofirst.
Claude (10:00):
What is your first?
Recommendation so one is beintentional.
So it's almost like doing, likesetting up a meeting right like
you know you're going to work.
You have a project that I don'tknow it's going to stay.
You think it's going to takeone hour.
Yeah, Put on your calendar putit on like a little you know on
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your phone like an alarm clockor whatever.
Jess (10:25):
After 20 minutes boom take
a three minute break three
minute break.
Claude (10:31):
Go around, have some
water, stretch anything and then
go back Get into it.
Jess (10:38):
Yeah, Well, it kind of
bleeds into my mind.
I know we tasked each otherwith coming up with a list, so
one of mine was to move yourbody, which I know you said you
were doing, the pushups whichmade me think about it.
But I do think I've starteddoing this especially at home,
but I started doing it in theoffice too.
When I'm on a work call andwe're just sitting there for the
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45, 50, really 60 minutes orlonger, I like get up a couple
of times and do like stretchesor move around, just to like get
yourself back into it.
So I don't necessarily takemyself out of it, but I still do
some stretches and stuff.
That's a good one so you'restill connected, still paying
attention.
It's like your wall push-upsyeah.
Claude (11:22):
So some physical
exercise.
And then another one would beconnect with others, like go
talk to your co-worker, and youknow, like, for example, instead
of going and calling or teams,go and walk and speak to them.
Have a connection with aco-worker, with your work.
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Bestie, just say hi, how areyou doing?
Having this physical intimacyis going to help you get away
get out of all that yeah, andthen you go back and you're
refreshed and you're, you'remuch better.
Jess (11:56):
I love it so I also kind
of stole another one than what I
thought about you.
One of my ideas was to justchange your environment right.
So if you're working in the ora different location in the
office, I do recommend goingoutside in nature.
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That definitely is probably thebest.
We actually have a fantasticepisode coming up that you can
watch about the powers of nature, but I think that is probably
one that I'm going to chargemyself to do a little bit more.
I do it better or more oftenwhen I'm working from home, but
we still should do it in theoffice as well.
(12:37):
Maybe that's something also wecould do, and we talked we
talked about it like having awalk, yeah even like we don't
have lunch, unfortunately, whichis really silly yeah, well, now
that we have our company isamazing and provides us a lunch
that we don't walk outside toget the lunch yeah, yeah.
Claude (12:54):
So at least go outside
and do yeah get the lunch, yeah,
so at least go outside and doyeah, Be under the sunlight Like
now, Right?
Jess (13:02):
Does everyone like our new
environment, by the way?
Claude (13:04):
we're in a professional
studio, I know Don't get used to
it.
Jess (13:10):
It'll kind of go Um and
then another one.
Claude (13:15):
Something I like also is
engaging.
Fun break Like, yeah, I likealso is engage in fun break.
Like you know, have jokes withyour worst university, with your
co-worker, with you know watch,even like some memes, even
though sometimes it's good tostep away from your phone,
having like more digital daytalks but anything that makes
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you laugh.
Jess (13:38):
It's like how I used to
stress having like more this
digital detox, but anything thatmakes you laugh.
Yeah, it's like how I used to Istill do it from time to time
leverage the Fogel and Grillvideos because they're quick
videos they're like not even aminute or so and you just either
dance with them or watch themdoing their quizzes and you're
like smiling and laughing.
So if you're, alone, like ifyou're a work from home day.
That's like a great thing to do.
But to your point, if you're inthe office, just go talk with
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somebody and giggle for a coupleseconds.
Claude (14:05):
Do jokes.
Jess (14:08):
I know, do a stand up
routine, just like get up.
Yeah, just get up and do astand up routine.
I think, now I'm just going tostart bringing tomatoes with me
to work.
So when I see you stand up,come on, I'm funny.
All right.
Well then, my last one that Icame up with was to collaborate
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with people at your work.
It would be amazing if you'vegot the time to collaborate with
your work.
Bestie on it, because we'vetalked on a couple of our
episodes how we want to startdoing stuff together or try to
like we talked about.
You just brought up again doingthe walks, or.
I think we do a great job ofmeeting before, after work, but
maybe during work finding a five, ten minutes to have a coffee
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even like set up a day.
Claude (14:54):
Yeah, you know like the
same way where you're going to
put like your 30 seconds.
Jess (15:00):
Like to take the break you
know, during time, the same
thing time it's I mean we'llhave to try and do it.
It's really hard when you'renot in the same department, I
know, but we'll try but we'lltry.
I mean if any of the workbesties out there that are not
in different or that are indifferent departments have
figured out a hack on this.
Feel free to share it to us.
Claude (15:18):
We're gonna keep trying
wait.
Who was doing it?
The teachers.
The teachers do it really goodjob also vogel and grill
actually gave another example no, there's a yeah, there's a lot
of other people do it.
Jess (15:32):
There's some great ideas
that are out there yeah, yeah,
what works for us, because it'sso hard.
We're both in nonstop meetings,with different meetings, and,
yeah, we'll figure it out, butwe're excited to see you guys
and see what kind of things youguys are going to recommend out
there, and there's a lot of it,so definitely think about ways
yeah.
Claude (15:53):
So let us know what's
your go-to break.
Jess (16:01):
You know, like let's all
be together and give each other
ideas, take a break and thinkabout it.
Dm or tag, dm or tag us.
Yeah, actually, what would befunny?
You know what would be funny?
Claude (16:10):
Yes, tag us.
Do a story or something and tagus.
You know, put it while you'reon your break and tag us that
would be fun we could have.
Jess (16:22):
maybe we could do this as
the for those that write to us
or show us the quickest we canreach out.
Maybe they can be on a futureepisode or I do a live with them
.
Claude (16:32):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
That would be good, we'rethrowing it out there for your
lunch.
Okay, do it, do.
Okay, do it, do it.
Jess (16:39):
Do it All right.
So I think we've given you acouple of different, and each
other too.
Yes, just because we have to doit too, so we thought we'd throw
a little bit more call toattention or things to think
about out there.
So, thinking about it, we aretalking about how breaks are all
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about productivity, which isdefinitely a benefit not just to
us but to our companies.
But think about this as more ofa bigger picture, because it
isn't just about theproductivity.
It's also about wellness.
It's about keeping you happy,safe, sound and in a much better
environment for your full day,because work isn't just all you
do.
You still have stuff outside ofwork, whether it's family,
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friends and stuff.
Claude (17:24):
And it helps also with
burnouts.
I think a little bit yeah, forsure.
Because it's going to decreaseyour stress levels.
Jess (17:32):
So take a break.
Yeah, think about it from thatbigger picture.
Just take a break.
Claude (17:36):
Claude, take a break.
We have to try.
Jess (17:40):
And engage your WorkBestie
community.
If it's not your specificWorkBestie at work, which would
be fantastic leverage us.
We will be more than happy toping and chat with you on that
and, as we mentioned, we'd loveto see what you guys share.
And then definitely continue toshare back with us guys.
(18:02):
Um, if you like this episode,we're trying to do a little bit
more of the mini micro episodes,like the micro breaks.
Uh, tell us about it and giveus some ideas of things you
might want in a future episode,right?
Claude (18:15):
Right, so with that, if
you liked it like, subscribe and
share with your friends.
Jess (18:24):
Share with your, maybe on
your next micro break.
Yes, till then, bye.
Remember, whether you'reswapping snacks in the break
room, rescuing each other fromendless meetings, or just
sending that perfectly timedmeme Having a work bestie is
like having your own personalhype squad.
Claude (18:44):
So keep lifting each
other, laughing through the
chaos and, of course, thriving.
Until next time, stay positive,stay productive and don't
forget to keep supporting eachother.
Work besties.