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October 23, 2025 132 mins

EPISODE 81) By invitation, Artist Signe sits in as cohost to teach us some of her considerations when communicating emotions through illustration. We talk about the parallel between storytelling with words and storytelling with drawings. Spoiler alert: Story always comes first. We talk about how the author and artist can help each other arrive at the best project. Peggyann pops in for a few minutes in a prerecorded bit with me as we tell you about our new romcom with a twist of mystery serial on Substack:YOU SHOULD HOPEWRENLEIGH DUVALANDRAE VENNA BRENNANNEVER MEET. Go to 01:37:34 to find out how to read it.The first chapter will be posted on October 8, 2025, before 11pm CST.OUR HOSTS GET THEIR BUBBLESSigne drives her horse around the Netherlands and sees many animals.Jon Meyers shows Signe a new three story mural.YOU RESPOND!Abbie Allen, screenwriter/novelist, responds to a previous discussion about manuscript size.#HEYJONMEYERS What colour is outerspace?CALL TO ACTIONGo find a sheep. At a farm, in a toy store, on a book cover, anywhere. Send us a picture of it and describe the colour. Leave your answer down here in the comments under the YouTube -- or on fb, X, or IG.THE FINAL ACT: Signe plays "Does America Have These?"Also briefly mentioned in this episode: #ghostsigns #selfdoubt #writingcommunity #art #artist #tapir #amwriting #creativewriting #selfpublishing #impostersyndrome #Dutch #language #Friesian #Friesland #chickens SIGNE's WEBSITE: https://www.signeofhorses.com/SIGNE's IG:   / signe.of.horses.illustrations  Suffrage Song: The Haunted History of Gender, Race and Voting Rights in the U.S. by CAITLIN CASS https://amzn.to/3UD1vWOTHE PANTOMIME HORSES OF LONDON, KENTUCKY by Jon Meyers https://amzn.to/4oIP5KJ(with cover art by SIGNE.)UPCOMING APPEARANCES BY JON MEYERSJON MEYERS, WRITERCON, SEPTEMBER 4-7, 2026THE CONFERENCE CENTER IN THE HISTORIC SKIRVIN, OKLAHOMA CITY, OKhttps://writercon.com/conference/JON MEYERS, WRITERFEST, NOVEMBER 21-22, 2025BELMONT UNIVERSITY, NASHVILLE, TN.css-j9qmi7{display:-webkit-box;display:-webkit-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-webkit-flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;font-weight:700;margin-bottom:1rem;margin-top:2.8rem;width:100%;-webkit-box-pack:start;-ms-flex-pack:start;-webkit-justify-content:start;justify-content:start;padding-left:5rem;}@media only screen and (max-width: 599px){.css-j9qmi7{padding-left:0;-webkit-box-pack:center;-ms-flex-pack:center;-webkit-justify-content:center;justify-content:center;}}.css-j9qmi7 svg{fill:#27292D;}.css-j9qmi7 .eagfbvw0{-webkit-align-items:center;-webkit-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;color:#27292D;}


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