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May 18, 2025 46 mins

Living Two Lives — Hollywood Fame & Hidden Cult Control | Part 1

“You can’t be human here.”

In Part 1 of this raw and revelatory conversation, One Tree Hill star Bethany Joy Lenz opens up about the decade she spent inside a high-control religious group — all while filming a hit TV show and hiding a double life.

We talk about:
- The slow creep of coercive control masked as faith
- The emotional and spiritual suppression that comes with people-pleasing
- The inner split of being both artist and captive
- How spiritual language is used to dominate
- What it feels like to finally scream, “Fck God, Fck Jesus, Fck everything”* — and why that moment was sacred

This isn’t just an interview. It’s a conversation between two people who’ve lived inside systems that punished authenticity and praised obedience. What emerged is a vulnerable, unfiltered exchange about waking up, falling apart, and coming home to yourself.

👉 Part 2 drops next week, where we go even deeper into Joy’s escape, motherhood, financial exploitation, and her journey to rebuild trust and voice.

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📖 Dinner for Vampires: Life on a Cult TV Show (While Also in an Actual Cult!) by Bethany Joy Lenz

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