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May 25, 2025 50 mins

Breaking the Spell — Motherhood, Escape & Reclaiming her Voice | Part 2

In Part 2 of this powerful conversation, Bethany Joy Lenz — actor, singer, and author of Dinner for Vampires — continues her story of life inside a high-control religious group while navigating fame on One Tree Hill.

This episode picks up where we left off: unpacking the emotional, spiritual, and psychological cost of living under manipulation — and what it takes to reclaim your voice once you’re out.

We talk about:
- The lingering effects of indoctrination
- The intensity of public life versus private suppression
- Shame, perfectionism, and the fear of being “bad”
- Narcissistic dynamics in spiritual systems
- Expressing rage and grief through art

Joy speaks with clarity, insight, and zero performative fluff — just one survivor speaking truthfully about the systems that tried to define her… and the long process of becoming herself again.

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