Are You A Classy Girl? - Jersey Shore S1 E1

UHM HELLO?? WE'RE BACK!! This week we are finally talking Jersey Shore, one of the most important reality tv shows...period! We get into some chit chat about internalized misogyny, upstate NY representation, a tangent about Chappel Roan and the misogyny that the current pop girls are dealing with, and somehow we circle back to And Just Like That!

We are so so happy to be back and we hope you're excited to revisit Jersey Shore with us!

Also sorry if you here me randomly bump my mic here and there - Trev <3

Episode Transcript

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Hello, hello, so what no fucking ziti now

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Hi everyone welcome back to you know that episode we're kicking off season five with
One of our favorites. We're finally getting into reality TV
With Jersey Shore hold your applause
Hold your pause. I can't hear it anyway, but please hold. It's one of the best shows ever reality or not

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It's just so juicy
So entertaining like it had the nation in a chokehold for as long as it was on I still kind of feel that way like
It's still like people always circulate the memes from it. It's so quotable
It's so exciting still it's still so exciting and and like there's moments that are happening on family vacation

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Which is there like revival of it now that they're all adults like there's moments on that that still like
People go crazy over it. Yeah, like I feel like every time a new season drops. There's still some like we are at least one viral moment
Yep each time but yeah, it's
rewatching this first episode which we should say in the in the long tradition of us doing shows that premiered in 2009

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Premiered on December 3rd 2009, which is so crazy. But also when you watch it, you're like nothing has ever felt more
2009
Truly it just brings me right back to that time in my life. Yeah, and I will never forget one year for a birthday party
This is how popular it was one year for one of my birthday parties

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I had a bunch of friends over and somebody gave me a magnet
That said GTL on it, which is Jim Tam laundry. That's I had it
I literally hung it in my locker and it was like one of my favorite gifts that I've ever ever
I'm so sweet. How is that not that's like literally one of the best gifts I've ever gotten but

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That's just how prevalent was like the fact that yeah
There was literally magnets made with the shit that this test was saying and it's a reality TV show mind you like they were a
List superstars. I mean, they're still so famous. Yeah back it back then when the show started and that and like the couple years after
They were like the most famous people in the world. They were going on all the different talk shows people were like

(02:22):
It was it was crazy. It blew up. It was a cultural phenomenon
It's so fun before we get into the actual first episode
We should stop like do like some table setting
Okay, who like who do you stand? Who are you standing in Jersey Shore? Okay?
I feel like I immediately have to start with like J Wow

(02:46):
Absolutely, that's because she's like mommy of the group. I feel 110%
Like I feel like she's even though I always had this idea that she was like extremely much older than them
But it turns out she's only like a little bit older than them. Yeah
Like why are you just are wild it kind of blew our minds when we like started doing research for this episode

(03:09):
How far apart Mike in particular was from everyone?
But then when you actually think about it doesn't it's not that shocking because he was the one that was complaining about like you guys are like
Dirty mole rats like clean up your shit do the dishes. He would cook dinner for all of them. So like anyway, we'll get into that but I think
Number one favorite definitely goes to J Wow. She's definitely the hottest and she always stands up for her friends

(03:35):
She's super loyal. She's super chill. She doesn't like like catty bullshit
Like she like she's very cool. She is that girl. She's very real. Yeah, she's very real authentic
Plain to the point
Yeah, like very girls girl. I feel very girls no nonsense and she's just like

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Confident in yeah, especially in a cast where a lot of the girls and I mean the guys too are so deeply insecure
Throughout the entire series. You never really see that happen with Jenny
No, there are times here and there where she has like weird relationship drama and like she feels some type of way about it
But she never feels

(04:17):
less than
Right and she never like makes her problems anybody else's problems, which I love like she's always there for all her friends
But like when she needs a friend
They just step up to the plate without her even needing to ask cuz she's so yeah towards them like when her boyfriend
Locked her out of the house and her two dogs were there

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Season three or something. I think that season two
I think it's so crazy to think about but Snooki is just like already like let's go
Let's jump in the car and go and that's a hard drive
It's a far-ass drive, but she was living in like upstate New York at the time still I think right and
Seaside is South Jersey. That's like a six-hour drive. Oh

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G because I grew up I grew up going to to seaside specifically and that eventually
Wildwood which is still South Jersey and like we were living in Yonkers for most of that
Which is still like a three three and a half ish hour drive depending on traffic
But once we moved upstate and we would still go it is a fucking
Trek it it kicks your ass, right? You feel it

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So like for them to like that's real Snooki and J. Well are obviously my favorites, right?
Second favorite for sure. I just can't ever
Like not feel for them
Me too. Like I'm pathetic characters like I love them so much
I can't help it like they do stupid shit sometimes obviously, but like that's part of why I love them so much

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It's yeah, like they're funny
They're real
They are unabashed 90% of the time
And they're just very endearing like it's just something about that like I relate to them
I made a fool of myself when I've been drunk. I've partied my ass off
I have made bad choices in relationships made really bad choices in my relationships before and it's like

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They are doing the same exact thing around the same time that I was doing it
And it's all those things. It's like thinking about the context of one Jersey Shore premiered. We're in a post Hills
World post Hills and Laguna Beach
Real world does like not have the cultural cache anymore
And also real world is very much like serious type of drama

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We'd be like, oh like this is really really bad. I'm like, oh, that's so sad. Like that's really tragic
This is just plain mess. This is messy. Yeah, this is just like messy funny
Like oh like I want to like sit down and watch
It's kind of what like housewives eventually became with like how absurd and

(06:59):
Messy that they are but I don't root for any of the housewives that I've ever like
I don't really watch it and that is definitely gonna shock people that I am not like fully entrenched in housewife because I love TV
But there's like a million different shows a million different seasons of each show
none of them seem particularly interesting or like I

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I don't know what it is, but I just am not drawn to it in the slightest and with Jersey Shore
It was like instant
I think the thing too because I feel that way about about housewives as well
I just like I think the fact that they're so absurdly wealthy a lot of the time is a turnoff
They don't feel like real genuine people that I would know I can't relate to Bethany Frankel, but I can relate to snooki

(07:44):
Exactly. That's exactly what it is. They're not relatable. I don't find them interesting. I
I will say there are times where
Obviously also we love Dina
Okay, okay, wait, let me go back to my order. Okay. Yeah number one snooki number two for obvious reasons
She's funny. She is the face of the show. It's like saying yeah, you don't love Stevie Nicks who is the complete wood Mac, right?

(08:07):
Like she's kind of she's Kermit. She is the main character. Sorry. She's the main character of Jersey Shore
It's the gods honest truth if somebody were to deny that they're kidding themselves. I've seen every season of the show
I've seen every season of family vacation
She is the main character and when she's not there her absence is deeply deeply felt and it affects the vibe of the show

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And even if this story isn't currently about her she isn't some way
Perpelling it right right and you see that in season two with the Miami storyline of like Sam at Ron's drama
Is still so deeply intertwined with snooki? Yeah, because she wrote the note. Yeah, well, okay
Well, J Wow definitely so one other thing that needs to be point out is that snooki and J Wow had a spin-off show

(08:52):
And it was like three or four seasons and it was actually really good. Yeah, they lived together
They were roommates during that they also had like interesting drama between the two of them
Yeah, I mean what best friends don't you know, I mean like there's always gonna be a little bit of drama between two girls
And again, it's it felt very real. I
Love them both to death. Like I just like them. I just like them like I literally have a smile on my face

(09:16):
Just talking about them. I love them both
They are like my fake TV best friends
Like if I could choose a reality start a hangout with I would probably choose snooki or J Wow because it would just be a good
Time they would be so real with you. Yeah, definitely buy dinner down to earth
laughing talking about like all the stuff that's happening in society not like uptight and dry and like formal day with gossip

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Like snooki has like a clothing store and like a brand and that she literally goes to like the grand opening of each store
She pops in and out of each of her stores in Jersey and like hangs out with the staff like she's there book. I
Haven't read it. I wonder if it's any good. I don't know. I feel like that could go either way really easy
Yeah, okay number three Dina

(10:03):
She's not hard to like Dina. No, she's the same as snooki in that and so much where it's just like
She had she just has a an aura about her where you're just like well goddamn. She seems fun as hell
She's so cute like the stuff that she says is very cute
She's very witty when Dina needs to snap back. She snaps back like yeah, Mike was calling her fat in

(10:29):
the season where they go to
Italy oh
My god, yeah
She's like Mike you're always criticizing my body and calling me fat. I can lose weight for free
It's gonna cost you about five grand to fix your face. Oh
It's so okay and now look at him and now

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But I will say
number one I
Think what makes Dina likable is the fact that she's kind of on the sidelines of
Out of the drama like she's not actively in it sometimes she makes a mistake or like does something that's annoying
I see right but she always owns up to it and like apologizes when she needs to and she's not the kind of person

(11:15):
Who's like constantly stirring the pot by saying?
Hurtful things to people or saying rude things to people like she's just a nice. Yeah, like she's not malicious
Right and I love that about her so I think we're an easy three
Pretty much every other character at one point or another is like actively malicious. Yes like and

(11:36):
Especially the boys, but I will say that I think the most likable boy
This is gonna rock the boat in previous
Previous Mike. No, I would okay. Here's my here's the reason in family vacation
I would agree with Mike. Okay. Here's the thing that I would say right now

(11:56):
I think it's Paulie D because the cross the current season of
Like family vacation like all the way up to the present and all the way back to season one episode one of Jersey Shore
He has never switched it up. He has never changed his game. He has never changed his personality. He's always been
Paulie D

(12:17):
Authentic real most consistent. Sometimes he loses his temper most of the time. He's a chill guy if you piss him off
He's gonna snap. He's a normal guy from Jersey. He's so just he's so justified. He's so fucking justified so justified
I've never once seen him overreact to situation
That being said I think that my next guy in line

(12:38):
It literally depends on the time like if you would have asked me before family vacation ever aired
I would almost say Vinnie was above Paulie for me like I just saw him as much less of a douchebag
He's like a whole season where he yeah
He had like a whole season where he was like dealing with his anxiety and depression and he went home
And like he was I thought that was very real of him to talk about on a reality TV show

(13:03):
That's like totally famous for these partying kids who love to have a good time and he's the one who's like anxious and depressed
So I thought it was really good of him to like
Try and stigmatize that in a way, but nowadays I
Hate him with a passion. I don't like his personality at all
He rubs me as the kind of guy who's like totally a player such a jerk off in public like yeah

(13:27):
I think the thing is for my so for my rankings for the boys
I definitely Paulie number one with a bullet like no question, right? I
think
By default I have to put Vinnie second because Ron and Mike over the years even if they're better now
Has just like left such a bad taste in my mouth

(13:51):
Yeah
Yes, that's how I feel where I'm like
Yeah, can't deny he's gotten his act together. He's like sober now
He seems to have like really tried to rehabilitate himself but back in the day. Oh my god problem a monster to these

(14:11):
To these women and to like them the boys too
He is just a fucking shit stirrer and like yeah, even if Vinnie now is kind of a dickhead
I don't see it as much because like obviously they're they're less famous than they were so I'm just not engaged with it in the same
Way, it's just like I used to follow him on Instagram
He's constantly posting these cheesy selfies of himself with these cheesy ass captions

(14:33):
Yeah, he's just called me twice, but I clicked ignore winky face like shit like that like just
Nobody gives a shit if you think you're a player like stop
It's very weird and it's just like he is
Out of them especially compared to like Paulie who was almost who's like almost 10 years older than him, right?

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It's just it shows a lot
I would say it shows more now than it even did when the show was like the first series was airing their age difference
Yeah, for sure, but I yeah my right kids. Yeah, it's crazy
Polly's married
What yes, I think so okay? Wow? I'm a little out of the loop. Okay, and like Ronnie has kids

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We both failed to mention Sam and
Angelina I think that speaks for itself, but my my only comment will be like I think Sam
Was caught up in the throes of a deeply abusive relationship?
Yeah, there were aspects of that relationship dynamic that made her seem very unlikable to me
Yeah on TV as like a spectator

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But it's not that I hate her it's just there's been moments
She goes against the girls and sticks up for Ron and that pitches me off
Especially because a lot of the times like they're sticking up for her
They're trying to like help her and she goes against them. It's like you are such a stupid bitch right now
I have a lot of empathy for her because of the fact that like I watched her get abused on TV for like literally years

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We feel really bad for her. Yeah, it's not us being like oh she deserves it
100%
But she's likeable. Who do we stand?
She is also just like in her own way so much and also like doesn't ever try and help herself or
Recognize when people are trying to help her and it's really really hard to
Like root for her and she's just so catty like remember the season where Dina came

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Dina's first season. I think it was season two or three whatever whatever Dina's first season was three because I think it's
Yeah, they're in Miami. It was season three. No, so when they're back at the shore to is Miami because
Yeah, so that's the first season that they were like fuck Angelina. We're not inviting her back again
Well, they invited her back for like an episode and then they just she pissed him off so much that she left and then I think that's when

(16:51):
Snicky invited her. Yeah invited Dina. I can't remember damn
But I do know that she starts with season three and Sam is nasty
The point is Sam is just such a bitch like she's like I don't like this outside girl
Like I don't know but she thinks she's like a snicky 2.0
And like I'm just like gonna not be nice to her like do you remember that whole she has like an entire confessional where she's literally like

(17:15):
I'm committing myself to not like Dina. I'm committing myself to treating her like and
Then Dina comes in she's like hi everyone like I'm so glad to be here
I'm having a great time and Sam like gives her this mean-ass look like oh my god girl
Who do you think you are like princess Diana?
You're just Sam. She's the shit because she's like the thing is also and we'll get more into this once we start working through the

(17:38):
plot of like the pilot
Sam and Angelina's are so
So good like dedicated to being quote-unquote classy girls. Oh my god
They're so annoying about that
Angelina shows up with her shit in a trash bag girl. You are the opposite of great. It's such insane internalized misogyny

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And like really hard to watch sometimes because I'm like you are just like that's why you're not having fun
Right
You're so dedicated to being like above it and better that you're a wet fucking blanket, bro
Yeah, like you're literally on a reality show where about partying about partying and you're trying to be the high and mighty one

(18:21):
Like why are you even on the show? It's so it really is confusing. Angelina the most is like, why are you here?
Right? Why are you attempting to be here? It doesn't make sense. It doesn't seem like you want to be here, right? I
I true. I just never understood it
But I I like all that I like I want to root for Sammy is the thing

(18:42):
She just makes it really hard a lot of the time
She makes it really hard and it has almost
Removing the entire part of her abusive relationship with Ronnie. Yeah
Would I still like her as a person if that story arc never happened? No
We're starting to already get on my nerves. Yeah in this episode and they weren't even fully together yet. Yeah, I would not
Like her but I would be like she's she's she's like wallpaper at that point. Yeah, she's like Liam Payne

(19:07):
She's a campaign if she did literally if she didn't have Ron and the storyline with Ron
She would be a non fucking factor in this show, right? Like I actually think I would be
Very uninterested in her as a character and just be like why do they even have her on the show?
She just feels like unnecessary, right?
Okay, let's jump into the episode so we start off with introductions of each of the cast members and

(19:37):
So dry you see like they're beautiful young faces
Untouched faces. Nobody has had any work done. Everyone is like
The only work that anyone has is Jenny has her boobs done, right?
Like they look like that. She looks amazing. She looks so good. What was she doing before Jersey Shore?
I've never I think I've researched this a couple of times and I always forget what it is

(20:01):
She was doing before this. I don't know. Let me look really quick cuz I I know I've looked it up before too. Yeah, she was
She was a nanny. Oh
For a while. I thought she did something in the public eye. I feel like I remember her having
I think she was like in the show they say that she's like a club promoter and she does like design
Oh, yeah, I design stuff and like for clubs and shit like that

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But I think between it was like that and like nanny egg mostly. She's so chic. She's so imagine. That's your nanny
Like
Don't don't go any further with that scenario, please
Like she's just like a probably the coolest fucking babysitter ever and the coolest mom

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Like I post tiktoks with her daughter all the time that I'm always I'm always watching her tiktoks
That she posts with her daughter Milani and they're so funny Milani like criticizes the outfits that they used to wear on the
So funny. I also really
love like Snooki as a mom
Me too. I really she's always getting hate on her like Instagram and her tiktoks and she

(21:08):
Literally stands up to her hate all which is good. You know some celebrities like literally ignore hate comments
I just like it more when they stir the pot and actually reply because they think yes
People think that oh a celebrity won't look at these hateful comments that I'm leaving
But like I love when celebrities do look at them and are like if I was a celebrity
I would be running my mouth fucking crazy on Instagram. I would need a publicist. All right. My publicist would literally fire me

(21:35):
Right your publicist would be like I don't think I'm cut out for this job
I'm not a good fit because you are telling people to like jump off a bridge
I'm like, okay. They called me fat
They're being they're trying to hurt my feelings. I
Don't think my fan. I think my fans would start to realize pretty quickly that I have like a bad temper and a big

(21:58):
We need to be more mindful about what we say on the yeah, she's gonna swing on us
Okay, that's why I like chapel not to go on I'm like, yeah, okay
Yeah, fuck off. I get really pissed off right now when people are criticizing her
Sam and like I am standing up to all of the haters that I see on the internet me too

(22:19):
I'm like her like online bodyguard. I'm like, no
Yeah, we will no longer be allowing this discourse about whether or not she's a diva or not
It doesn't matter if she's a diva or not like you as a fan
Do not get unlimited access to whatever you want from your favorite
Musician or actress or whatever just because they are in the public eye doesn't entitle you to

(22:41):
Unlimited access to their body their time their emotional energy like also
Be a diva. I want one divas
This is when we say diva on this show we've said this before we're saying it again when we say diva on this show
We mean it as a compliment. It's the high. It's the highest high I can give to a woman, right?

(23:02):
If I call a man a diva, I'm saying a slur, right?
If we call a woman a diva that is I'm like she's as close to God as you can get as a woman
Like Mariah Carey's walking the Great Wall of China right now and fucking heels like diva. That's diva
That's diva. We need divas
Chappell Ron is telling a photographer on the red carpet to shut the fuck up. That's diva and we thank her for it

(23:27):
We love her. She's setting things up for the next wave of pop girlies
And the thing is it's not only chapel. I've also seen similar comments about Renee rap back in
Yes back a few months back when they did
Coachella yeah, somebody posted an entire like faux expose a TikTok video about how they met Renee wrap at like a VIP tent and

(23:49):
They thought she was gonna be super chill and whatnot and she was like sitting and relaxing after her set and they went up to her and like asked her
Super kindly according to them if they could have a photo with her and she said no
and
basically got them ex scored out of the tent or something like that or like left the tent and
Good it's like leave her alone. She's alone. Exactly

(24:13):
It's also my thing is like it's about the Renee thing specifically there was like she was pretty vocal at one point about how
People were making her uncomfortable with like the signs and stuff at her shows
Yes, and how explicit and like inappropriate they were sexual. Yeah, and I said they wanted Renee wrap to give them a pap smear

(24:33):
Like yeah poster is that to have at a concert like funny or not
You're always like online queer people and lesbians are always talking about misogyny
They're facing and it's like you're doing misogyny and you're doing sexual harassment
Literally just because this woman is a celebrity does not mean you get to sexually harass her like what do you mean?
It's so crazy, but like that's at the end of the day. I

(24:57):
Mean, you know what it is relevant because these the Jersey shorted girls were treated like shit
Okay, one thing that needs to be said and talked about is how much hate they all used to get for
Being quote unquote slutty back in those days
Even to even to this day sometimes but much less so I feel like society is a little bit more sex positive than it was back in

(25:19):
The day but back in those days circling back Genzi is so weird Genzi is being very weird and very
Antisex I'm noticing. Yeah, not to make a big big broad statement, but like I'm seeing a lot of videos
It's true. I'll do it. They're being fucking losers
I'm seeing a lot of ticktocks and tweets and like stuff like that about how like if you want to get the guy

(25:45):
You have to like act like wifey material and not like side chick material. Have you seen that? Yes?
And it's also like like the sex in movies discourse and like people are meditating the cray right now because she was like
Topless in a music video. Oh, which by the way, I think her music is bad, but she's so cunt. I

(26:05):
Think that more people I've seen more people angry about it because they think that the video glorifies police brutality
Which I also don't see that like I I think she's like naked with her titties out
Yeah, the police is like pushing her up against the cop car
So I'm like people are thinking that she's trying to like glamorize it and which I feel it's a reach

(26:27):
It's a reach. It's a reach. Yeah, but that's neither here nor there, but it is
It's just like black girls be sluts, right?
And they want it like why are we mad that hot girls want to be like half naked?
Should we not be thanking them? It's because normal girls who normal girls in just normal

(26:48):
Society who are not celebrities or even close to fame in the slightest are
criticized so much by like their friends and family and
they
Criticized celebrities for doing what they maybe are scared to do or feel like they're not allowed to do
It's just internalized misogyny. I know it makes me so upset because I'm like yeah
We need we need them to be fun and slutty. Yeah culture is so much more fun when girls get to be slutty

(27:14):
Yeah, because then boys get to be slutty, too
Right, and it's like just watch Sex in the City
There's a reason everyone always says Samantha is the best character on that show honest ear your lips to God's fucking ears
that that is
People are always saying oh this show is not the same without Samantha God Samantha was the best part of the original show blah blah blah

(27:35):
More than any other character. She is loved and celebrated and she's the most sexual character
I've ever seen on a TV show ever
100 fucking life ever great. It's so
Like and just like that has its issues
50% of them would not exist if Samantha was Samantha was back on the show
100% period point fucking blank. Okay, I was taking 30 minutes on discourse about sluttiness

(28:01):
It's relevant. It's relevant. Okay. Polly is literally the definition of Gotti. It takes 25 minutes to do his hair
He has 10 bottles of gel lined up
He has a tanning bed in his house
I can't it's crazy, but Ronnie makes an insanely bisexual comment

(28:22):
He literally is like I
Don't even understand it honestly
It's like how can you read what he said?
So he's like talking about wanting to meet girls with bitters your shore and he's like I want to meet some guys too
And I'm like, how am I supposed to read that in a not gay way, right?
What do you mean?
He's like I want to meet some girls. I want to meet some guys. I want to have a good time. It's like, okay

(28:45):
I'm like you suck dick go ahead bisexual king better
This is when we liked him
That changes soon, but we did like him at first we and it's the way Ronnie sometimes has a point
It's crazy when
Punched in the face. It's like this just in the person you hate the most in the world was right

(29:09):
Yeah, like a fucking broken clock
Um, oh my god Vinnie is a baby
Vinnie is in love with his mom
It's it's so weird, but it makes you uncomfortable. It makes me uncomfortable
I should make everyone uncomfortable, but it's very Italian though. Yeah, it's a cultural thing
It's a cultural thing. It's so weird also like the psychological impact that the show had on my uncle

(29:36):
It needs to be studied it needs to be studied like he my uncle was a guido
Right like he was at karma. He was doing the fucking shit. It was so crazy
Like he probably hung out with them. Well, he did hang out with Angelina in Aruba. So oh

(29:57):
That's a story for another day
Like J. Wow and Snicky are both from upstate New York. I do claim them represent. Thank you
You're one claim to fame is that they live near you. Yeah
I was like where I grew up was like in between where they both lived and I was like, it's crazy

(30:18):
It's a rat like those are my girls. Those are your girls from now. It's so also
Two of them are from Jersey
Kind of crazy and it's literally the show is called Jersey Shore and the entire thing is about how all of them are
Guido's and Guitats and they love being Italian and Italian culture this and Italian culture. Okay, everybody

(30:38):
All the angel are not Italian, right and all the actual Italian American people and even people back in Italy
This is such a crazy sensation that they kept claiming they were Italian and that they loved Italian culture
They the actual Italians hated Jersey Shore. They were like you guys are an embarrassment to our culture
You do not represent us. But I remember that being such a scandal and now it's like, okay, like

(31:04):
That's like the biggest discourse. I think that they had in the early seasons was like
Italian Americans being like they do not represent us and I'm like unfortunately for you
They are they do they do and I also like they're not
Yeah, I also really feel like another huge discourse that they had just thinking back to the early seasons was

(31:27):
People thinking that they were like low IQ human beings like idiots
Why are we giving them a platform to like party and like drink and probably do drugs and let our kids watch it?
And like there was this idea of censorship going around that why is this on TV?
Why is this program on TV and it's somehow gonna encourage all of our kids to go out and do that and it's like babe

(31:50):
It's 2009 your kids already are doing that. Yeah, you're kids are represent, right?
like
It's just like it was so weird and no one can be normal
Right
The reception to the show was so mixed people who got it got it and the people who didn't
Hated it with a passion. Yeah, it's so funny. It's because it's also just like no different from any other reality show in the long run

(32:17):
right every reality show
glamorizes and features behaviors and things that people wish
Other people didn't do yeah, but that's just a part of being real like ever
But nobody's perfect much less 20 year old kids who are down at the Jersey Shore
We're the main intention of going down to the shore as an upstate kid from New York is literally party

(32:39):
I'm like hook up people hook up with people. It's like literally. It's just so wild
It's like it's not different than you going to a bar
In your hometown exactly
That's basically their hometown except they drove like an hour or two to get there. I
I okay. Yeah, the introductions are so crazy. It's like wow these people are gonna make such an impact on me
Who knew J-WO has

(33:01):
Ugly-ass extensions that somehow make her infinitely hotter like it's hot or she look her
Extensions are so ugly, but yet so hot at the same time. It makes sense. It's incomprehensible
It doesn't make any sense. It's because she is carrying herself to an extent that
Allows her to look somewhat ugly and she has like that's what is it the praying mantis line that she says

(33:25):
Yeah, she says I'm like a praying mantis after I have sex with guys out rip their heads off
She's so fucking hot it's like I send them on a roller coaster to hell. I like
She's so messy. I love that she owns it though. We need that
We cut to Ron and Ron says his one and only rule is to never fall in love at the Jersey Shore

(33:49):
He broke his first rule on day one. It is
It is like
Chekhov's gun
His entire time on Jersey Shore is literally marked by him falling for Sammy
That's his entire story arc is his one rule that he had which the rest of his life is
is

(34:10):
hinges on
The relationship he builds in this show. Oh my god, it's so fucking crazy. It's insane
Angelina she's this what is it Kim Kardashian of satin Island
Kim Kardashian's attend to cease and desist I

(34:31):
Did I I wonder if Kim Kardashian used to watch Jersey Shore?
I feel like it because I think it was also the same time that her show was so popular a reality
Watching reality TV like I wonder
I wonder if they've ever been like linked together. I kind of want to check
I'm sure there was it like some of the MAs or something like that. You know what I mean

(34:51):
Because they would also do stuff with E a lot
I
Think it would be so cool
to I
Wonder I just wonder I don't think she would get along with them
She's like a rich from Calabasas and they're like down and dirty kids from upstate New York and like my land

(35:12):
I think she would be scared of them, especially J. Well, I think if anything she would maybe get along with snooki
I was gonna say Sammy who is like very uptight and like a prim and proper like Kim
Just does not strike me as the kind of you know who would get along with J
Well, it's Chloe. Yep. Chloe Chloe would get along with J. Wow and snooki really well

(35:32):
Yeah, and I think especially J. Wow because I think we're gonna have the same temperament
Yeah, Courtney and Kim would get along with Sammy. Wait, is J. Well cancer? Oh
I don't remember. Let me look. I think she's a water Pisces Pisces. Okay. She is a water sign. Okay. That's what I thought
Okay
That makes sense. What are you a Pisces eater? I always forget. No, Tony's a Pisces. Oh, which maybe

(35:58):
Oh
They said they pissed me off. I
Kind of love Pisces. I do too. I know a lot of Pisces Aiders out there and I know why you're harmless. I
think to the wrong person they
Are annoying yeah, like I
Think that's good. Some people are not cut out to handle

(36:21):
Emotional they are like emotional sponges and yeah, if you're not careful
Like if you don't get along with a Pisces point-blank, you might be the problem because I absorb the energy of the people around
So if a Pisces is pissing you off look inside yourself
Derek and Julia are both Pisces too. Oh really? Yeah, and when we live together, it was great

(36:42):
I mean water signs. That's why I always say
This is advice take it or leave it for the people listening the date inside your own
Water or air or fire or yeah sign
Like I was think air goes with air water goes with water fire goes with fire for the most part
I would not recommend there's a few combinations within that that I would not recommend

(37:06):
But I think water and fire is like a horrible mix
I think so too, but I meant like if you were gonna do fire and fire like there's a few that I would not recommend
Yeah, I think Scorpios need to date fire signs
I'm like they need to stay away from us. I think Scorpios should just date other Scorpios
No, cuz then we get like a murder suicide

(37:32):
No, I just think that they're vibe they need someone who can match their vibe and a lot of times
It's a hard vibe to match. Yeah, it's very difficult
I think the only person who can totally understand them is somebody who is similar
So I think a Scorpio is good. I understand like I
Could see a Scorpio and a sage working because they're both very outspoken

(37:54):
Yes, and explosive like when it's when a Scorpio loses their temper or like is really happy about something or is it's like very
Like powerful. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you were gonna say toss
well
Listen, I have a lot of Scorpio in me
well
I that's how I understand well, I think I said I said

(38:18):
Here's what I think
Somebody who has a lot of Scorpio influence elsewhere in their chart would be fine. Yeah, Scorpio son
I agree with that. Okay. Let's get let's continue, please. Let's move off of this topic. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. It's always happens
We can't help it. We're gay
Angelina drives a Hyundai Elantra

(38:40):
I don't know what that means. I don't know how to drive
Oh, yeah, yeah
People who are listening who understand what that means
Yeah, it's just it's not the nicest car. Maybe she also doesn't have suitcases
So she literally shows up holding two trash bags like Sam always reaction is so funny because it's

(39:01):
Authentic because you didn't have anyone in your family who could give you a suitcase
It's but no it literally makes me feel bad for Angelina and it makes me pity her a little bit because it's like
He in earnest is like almost I think he feels bad for her. He's like
I think he feels bad for her and then immediately it's like she's annoying. I'm over it

(39:26):
Right. He doesn't feel bad after the first night. He's like actually I don't like her and
Actually, the fact that she showed up with trash bags is kind of starting to check out. So yeah
Um, Snooki is holding map quest directions. It's so she it's she drives down to the shore
It's like our guys her car literally dies and she's like screaming at the people on the road and so is J

(39:50):
Well, honestly, all of them are like they're all bad drivers. They're all terrible drivers Snooki's like I can't drive
They'll get over it and she goes I'm cutting you off bastard. I'm like, oh
There's another episode that we'll talk about
Uh-uh at some point where it's proven again. That's like he's a bad driver
Snooki is a terrible driver. We're gonna talk about it very soon. Yes

(40:15):
So they start to arrive at the house
I think Vinny gets there first
Yeah, it like they trickle in and kind of start to like suss each other out and like what the vibes are
Right. Oh, no, actually, I think Mike gets there first and then Vinny shows up and they're like dude
I'm gonna room in here. You want to room in here with me? Like I don't know who else is gonna show up
Maybe they're chill people blah blah blah and J. Lo shows up

(40:38):
It doesn't he like run and move his bags when J. Lo shows up
He moves his bags and he's like you can tell she's high maintenance. So I don't really want to stay with her
Which is so in what way is she high maintenance? He was dead babe her extensions are fucked up
What about that is high maintenance?
Right and he makes fun of her nickname. He goes why can't she just say her real name?

(41:01):
It is so funny though because like
They're J. Lo and Snooki are the only ones that have like I mean I'm like
But like none of them call him the situation
And none of them call Sammy Sammy sweetheart
Right, but they why do they have like these catchphrases in these nicknames like what is going on?

(41:23):
I don't know, but they call Snooki and J. Lo like Snooki and J. Lo a lot of the yeah, it's so it is very weird
It's very weird, but yet it fits them so perfectly. It really does it J. Lo fits her perfectly
also her being
Jenny but like
It's uh, what is it? Uh

(41:45):
The way she shortens it is J E N N I
Yeah, it's so crazy
It's so unique. It tells you exactly what you the kind of girl she is. Yeah, it tells you exactly what kind of girl she is
She isn't a Jenny with a Y
Jenny with a Y is a cheerleader from Pennsylvania. Yeah, she's dinner with her family every night. Yeah

(42:06):
And then Jenny with an I is dead ass
Snooki Snooki's best friend that is like there's the only way to describe it. She's the cookie monster pajama girl
I was just gonna say that she's like smoking during the gym lap when people would watch. Yeah, she's walking the fucking mile
Right and she's literally going to the corner store after school and getting like a lemonade and a and a pack of like slim

(42:31):
gyms and cigarettes and like
That is that is Jenny with an I
Right, right, right, right. Okay. Oh my god. I love it. Yes. I love it so much
Okay, Snooki immediately is like let's get fucked up
fucked up
Snooki just gets off on the totally wrong foot
Like she is really really really being very messy drunk and that's starting to rub them all the wrong way

(42:55):
Like I kind of find it funny everybody who's watching finds it like funny, but when yeah
I think when you're actually in that moment and they're like not even close to as drunk as she was
Yeah, and they also like don't know each other yet. It's they don't know each other. She's trying to kiss everyone
It's rubbing them all the wrong way because it's like very intense and nobody is very aggressive

(43:17):
Yeah, and nobody is as drunk as her
It's kind of grossing them out and putting them off of her in a way like she's
Leaving a very bad impression. Yeah, and like
later on in the series like
When they're in Italy or when they're in Miami or back at the shore and she gets like really really fucked up
There is a certain level of like they let it slide because they know her that's their sister at this point

(43:41):
Right, but this first it's the first night
It's the first night in the house ever. They've barely gotten to know each other. She's being
Just very extra and I think it's because she's coming on hard because she wants to leave a good impression
Yeah, we later find out. Yeah, we later find out in her apology that like she feels really bad about that and she didn't

(44:03):
She's just trying to have fun. She wasn't trying to like weird anybody out
I also can imagine that like she's probably so anxious. Yeah, who would it be like it's such a weird
Position for her to be in like she's on she's gonna be on tv
She has no idea how popular the show will be. She's in a new place. She's in a new like house with new people like

(44:25):
Like of course she got liquored up. Yeah
I mean they all they were all drinking and all partying to be fair
But she was definitely the drunkest out of all of them 100 so it made sense that she was kind of getting on their
Nerve so at a certain point she gets out of the hot tub and just like falls asleep on hammocks
So they decide to leave immediately and like go down to the like boardwalk and

(44:47):
Play like boardwalk game so hot. It's absurd. She's wearing a very hot
Very minimal outfit like just a teeny top and like rolled down sweatpants like she just looks very
She looks comfortable and just like normal. I don't know how else. I don't know how else to explain it
Right, but it's part of the appeal like it makes her seem like just a normal person that could be walking down the boardwalk at Jersey Shore

(45:12):
Like nobody knows that they're famous or anything like that and she's not trying to be like
Glamorous and glitzy and whatnot. She's just herself
And she's the only one who is able to win the basketball game
Right. She's the only one to score a basket
And meanwhile back at the house the phone is ringing off the hook
Looking it's like woken up out of her nap apparently and it's like

(45:38):
Literally on the phone non-stop trying to like manage these calls that she's getting all these incoming calls
On the duck phone and she just cannot figure it out. She can't figure it out. She keeps promising people
She's not gonna hang up on them and then she actually puts the receiver down and she hangs up on them
Like she does not know how that phone works
and
While that's happening on the boardwalk

(46:00):
They're having we're seeing the beginnings of a flirtation between Mike and Sammy
Which is so bizarre to think about if they actually would have ever become a couple. Thank god. They didn't
It's fucking scary
and
It's also scary to imagine like
What would happen a rock like what would how different would the show be

(46:21):
And if that had happened imagine seasons four and five
Like what would those have been like
I I genuinely can't think it
It just blows my mind. It's such an interesting like sliding doors moment
I really
I mean at the end of the day, obviously, I think what was supposed to happen happen

(46:42):
And I hate I hate how Mike is with Sammy and the little glimpses we do see
I think that would have been an equally toxic couple. Yeah, just as possessive, but maybe like
Maybe a little bit more mature. Mike seems to be less
Well at this point now explosive. Yeah at this point now. We know that Mike was addicted to drugs

(47:04):
Yeah during this filming of the show and we cannot speak to whether that would have made him
A good partner a bad partner abusive partner. Like we don't know just based on the drug use we don't know
But we do know that
Ronnie
Did not seem fueled by like
Drugs or even alcohol in his anything

(47:25):
Like insecurity was insecurity and they would just like argue verbally and like physically too
He would like fuck up her shit over jealousy and insecurity
And like even when they weren't sober he would sometimes act like that
Yeah, it's just like it's really
Their relationship is really concerning. I think Mike and Sammy still would be equally as concerning but maybe in just a different way

(47:47):
I think it would be more
manipulative if anything because Mike is like Mike plays games where Ronnie doesn't right like Ronnie's
explosive and abusive at like obviously in the show
But he's never like manipulative
Or like stirring the pot or trying to be like this like puppet master like Mike is exactly

(48:09):
so
Finally they all get back to the house
And like everybody goes to sleep basically and Snooki tells Santa tells J. Wow that her boyfriend was calling and everyone gets a good laugh about it
Right everyone starts making fun of like J. Wow because they're like, oh you were hiding it from us and whatnot
And she just kind of like giggles and they're like, why would you come to the shore with a boyfriend?

(48:33):
Like don't you know the whole point of being here is to like hook up with people and find hot people to
You know grind on at the club
Um, but she just just laughs it off and doesn't really care
But you already know deep down. She's kind of thinking the same and also
There's even if it's not in this season. There's another it's season two

(48:54):
She has this iconic quote where she's like I left the club early because I didn't want to cheat on my boyfriend
So I went home to eat ham
Yes, I think it's the first season
It's I want to say because it's when I think it's when she's dating tom in that first season
It's literally one of my favorite. It's so iconic. It's so iconic. It's one of the few moments

(49:15):
I really feel like we get to see her fully drunk like she's drunk when she says that and you can tell she's like slurring her word
She's just like fucked up and I feel like everyone's had a moment like that. We were like, I need deli
Or I'm going to ruin my life, right?
Um, okay, so the next day they all have to go to work

(49:35):
But snooki wakes up and is like puking and nobody wants to hold her hair. It's such a tragedy very like friendly to her
They're being hateful towards her. Vinny calls her a grown woman at the age of 21
He goes why is a 21 year old grown woman not waking up for work, bro? She is awake. She's just throwing up like she's
That's the thing they keep like getting they keep saying like

(49:59):
They're they're they're wrong about what they're saying. Yeah, they keep saying being like oh, she's just sleeping in
She's such a slacker. She can't even wake up and remember her own work schedule. Bro. She's awake
She's probably actually woke up earlier than you to start throwing up
And sammy is so
Nasty to her. She goes. I don't want your puky breath on me

(50:19):
And snooki's just like I brushed my teeth and and snooki's like why is everyone being weird towards me?
You can literally tell that they're like avoiding her. I love that though because she's just like something is fucking off
And you guys are being weird. Yeah, I hate sammy so bad in this moment
If I if I was in that house and I saw how she treated snooki. I would totally stick up for snooki

(50:41):
I would have been like really rude and really I would have been like you guys are being fucking annoying
She just got fucked up like that's the whole point of why we're here
Have you guys ever heard of having a good time? But that's the sage moon in me. That's the sage moon in me
I agree with you though
But eventually they have their meeting. They come back and all that and then they do their first family dinner

(51:02):
right
and this is where
Snooki clears the air. She apologizes for how she acted the night before
I do think is very adult. I really love that she apologizes
I love that they sit down to have like family dinner and this is our first one ever and they're like, okay now
It's time to say grace

(51:24):
Like okay somebody say grace. Okay, and then somebody's like dear god and they all start cracking up and jay well gets
Really pissed off because they keep laughing during grace. She's like don't make a joke out of it. It's so fucking funny
It's so funny because it's so
Stupid that she's that mad about it. Like she's getting so don't make a joke out of grace. She takes it so seriously
It's but it's also one of those moments. It's like these are real people like we all

(51:47):
Yes have been at a family dinner and somebody says to somebody else. Can you please say grace and that person starts it?
But they feel awkward so they start laughing and all the other people start laughing. It is so real
It is the realest thing I've ever seen on tv
And then Snooki apologizes everyone accepts and they're all like, okay. I respect you

(52:08):
For actually owning a owning it up. Yeah, and jay well gives her a big kiss on the cheek and it's like
Thank you for apologizing. That was actually really cool of you like it's like a good
It's a good start to their friendship. It is and ron is wearing a fedora
so
The fedora on ron is nuts

(52:30):
It's nuts. So after they have family dinner they start like whistling at girls
The guys go up to the roof and start whistling at girls that are down on the boardwalk the whistling at the girls
is so wild it's disgusting honestly and
Ron wants no part of it by the way. He's like i'm not feeling this and he like leaves and he's like

(52:51):
I already know that this is gonna cause problems bringing girls in the house is gonna cause problems
Like he was a prophet knows he was a prophet in that moment. He saves his own ass here. Yep
And thank god for him. Honestly, he was like
He's like nope. Yep
so
They get the girls up there. They bring them in the hot tub and whatnot and poly starts kissing two girls at the same time

(53:14):
meanwhile, angelina and
Samly are both like these girls are so trashy and skanky like let's go up there and watch
It's it makes no sense fucking weird. It's like
The guys are trying to hook up with these girls
The girls are just sitting in the living room twiddling their thumbs and then all of a sudden
When the girls come in they're like girl new they brought new girls in the house

(53:38):
Let's go up there and watch all the disgusting stuff. They do together
It's like girl. What are you doing? I just don't understand the thought
Of like and then Ron tries to stop them. He's literally like guys
Nothing good will happen from you guys going up there. He's just don't go up there
Yeah, he's like just don't go up there like blink blink. You're not gonna like what you see

(53:59):
Why are you going up there? And they're like because this is our house and we want to watch these girls on our turf doing blah blah blah
I'm like
You are being grip. They're the problem
The guys are it's so weird. I don't I just like don't understand
What the point of it is right?
So I guess it's a little bit because sammy has been like flirting with mike for the first day

(54:24):
So maybe her her excuse makes at least more sense than andriana just literally going up there to be a potster
Yeah, and like a yeah shit stir and a weirdo
Yeah, so they go up there mike keeps looking over his shoulder to check on sammy like this is when he lost her for sure
Also sammy has her bag with her for some reason like girl. Are you literally the little old lady from golden girls?

(54:47):
Are you so fia patrilla? Why are you carrying your purse everywhere?
I don't understand why she has her purse with her at all times. It's like you live there girl
So weird like what is this for?
and
It's just crazy to imagine if sammy would have ended up with mike like
And mike ended up with moran his high school sweetheart

(55:09):
It's so why it's everything is crazy
I just can't get over it. I this whole scene is so weird and then the fight that breaks out because of it is so
It's just as confusing
It's insane
Because the I don't think the guys were wrong for what they did like none of them are in relationships
They're all single. They want just looking to have a good time the girls had no reason to go up there

(55:33):
Mike met sammy the day before right and they're not like in a committed relationship
This is how you know sammy is at least part of the problem in her relationship with ron because she's so insecure
extremely insecure like the minute
Like all you guys did was literally hold hands
On the boardwalk. She's acting like he gave her an engagement ring and they've been together for 12 years

(55:54):
It's the least serious shit ever ever
So the biggest threat that they had on this show to make was starting to leave
So when the whole fight breaks out
So between the girls and the girls
Right slam the door and jenny gets involved and it's just like it's all this mess for no reason

(56:14):
Right, so all this huge fight breaks out in the main area of the house. Meanwhile snooki is on the outs
She's feeling down in the delt's mother. She's in her bed. She's like man. I really fucked up yesterday
And then all of a sudden she hears out of the corner of her ear
She hears the girl screaming about and these slutty bitches in our house are trying to make things blah blah

(56:36):
And she's like, oh, I guess they're talking about me again
I already apologize like how many times are they gonna keep bringing it out? Meanwhile, they're not even talking about her at all
It's so
Fucking funny how she's like, well, I am the problem. You're so right. It's like, what are you talking about girl?
It's like no Angelina literally screams these whores are gonna get it and she's literally and then snooki does a confessional

(57:02):
And she goes i'm laying in bed and I hear them screaming about me
Main character main character energy like girl. No, you have the iconic um, hello. Um, hello
They're taking their clothes off in the hot tub
Like like to an extent

(57:22):
To an extent
I understand
Being upset with your roommates for having people over
And like them getting naked in a communal space like that
If you hadn't talked about if it's cool or not, do you know what I mean? Yes, I know what you mean
They have had a conversation about it before and been like

(57:44):
Hey, where are we at with this and the girls were like, oh, I don't like that and then the boys did it anyway
Okay, it's on site, but if they were like, oh, that's fine. Like whatever
That should be no problem. But I think the fact that they was just like
Like if I was sharing a hot tub with someone and I came home and there was a bunch of naked people in it
I'd be like, well, I don't want to go back in that hot tub
Like you would be kind of grossed out. I'd be like, that's kind of gross because not only do I not know them

(58:09):
I don't even know you
It needs to be something that is agreed upon. I totally yes
So I think the girls definitely are like
That's fucking gross, but they made it worse by being weird
Yeah, Ron had two points in a row. His first point. I was so fucked up
His first point? Why the fuck did y'all go up and watch them after I told you five times that would not be a good idea

(58:29):
He's right
He's right. The second point
Mike fucked shit up by linking up with Sammy the night before and then going and hooking up with other girls right in front of her
And now it's causing trouble. He told them nothing good will come from you guys bringing girls into the house
He is like it is
He had two points in a row
He was 100% right

(58:49):
His second point would have only not lasted for very long
Like in my opinion
The second point is a moot point because they have the smush room and later seasons
They all bring people back to the house and hook up
Like there was no scenario in which the jersey short cast was not going to have sex in that house
I think the thing is for I think this specific situation though
I think the fact that he was already flirting with one of the girls in the house is the main point is the main thing

(59:15):
Because it's like obviously you all know you're gonna bring people back like that's not that's not the problem
I again, I don't think I think it's the fact that he was Mike was already making moves on Sammy
And then she he's like fucks off and like tries to hook up with this other girl in front of her and it's like
Well, yeah, now she has a reason to be mad at you annoyed with you because you're a fucking asshole

(59:37):
You've proven in a day that you're a douchebag and I guess it makes sense that Sammy went up there just to see what he would do
And she was like kind of right and justified for that. Yeah, but proved her right immediately. Yeah
So anyway, so everybody's fighting Snooki is in her bed depressed. She starts packing up her suitcase. She's like I'm leaving here
Point blank. I apologize. They won't take my apology. They keep calling me slutty. Like I don't know what more I have to do

(01:00:02):
I'm all by myself. I'm lonely. I'm sad. Like I'm just I'm leaving here
I feel so bad for her, but it's also so funny that she's like I am the main character
Yeah, she called she it's like literally there's no other person this could potentially be about she just immediately makes it about herself
She calls her dad and is that are like dad. I'm coming home and he's like why come on the polices are not quitters

(01:00:26):
And she's like no dad. I'm totally by myself here. I'm on the outs. I have no friends in the house. Her dad is so cute and
So they're then they all go upstairs and they start talking and like kind of chilling and hanging out and then
Ronnie comes into the room where Snooki is packing up her stuff and he's like, what are you doing? And she's like I'm packing up

(01:00:48):
I'm leaving here. He goes through what the fuck. Yeah, he's like really use so then he goes upstairs and he tells everybody
Snickers is going home and they're all like it's a whiplash. They're literally shocked. They're like, huh?
And he's like, yeah, she thinks that all this hate her and they're like, no, that's not true. So they run downstairs

(01:01:09):
But the one thing needs to be talked about that kind of annoyed me which is after Ron went in there to check on her
He has a confessional where he's like, I'm not gonna beg her to stay if she wants to fucking go home
She can go home. Like I don't really give a shit. I'm not gonna beg someone to stay in my house
What bubble it's like, bro, you went into the room unsolicited. It's not she called you in there. I'm was like, yeah

(01:01:32):
I need to confide in you. I've decided I'm leaving like she was just in there minding her own business packing and he marched in
He goes, what are you up to? Like why was he getting so angry? Right? Why are you so angry?
So all of them marched downstairs and are like, stop, we want you to stay. We like you blah blah blah. She realizes she was making everything about her when they're actually arguing about the other girls the guys brought in the house

(01:01:55):
And it's just like so random. Like where is this coming from?
Again, it's main character. It's also just like, it feels very college dorm.
Yeah, it does. It's like complete misunderstanding that could have been avoided if Snooki would have come out of her room and like asked what was going on.
But they talk about it. Yeah, they talk about it and they figure it out.
It's just so absurd. It's very absurd and it kind of leaves off on a little cliffhanger of like whether or not she's going to go home.

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Which like spoiler alert, she does. She doesn't. And then it's like a preview of the rest of the season and J-Wel literally has a quote where she's like, I feel like it's my mission to hook up with Jersey's hottest Guidos.
Babe, you have a boyfriend, a legit boyfriend. Yeah.
What do you mean, babe? Who called you on the phone? The first night.

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The amount of fights on this show. It's also like the previous crazy because they show Snooki get rocked.
I can't wait for the rest of the season. Me fucking too. I love this show so much.
Obviously, we like, it's just, it's so pivotal to like me growing up and being obsessed with TV. Me too.

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And it's the reality TV show that I think for me cemented the idea that reality TV could be more than just like a game show or like a scripted stupid show like The Hills.
Yeah, because like I grew up watching, I watched a lot of The Hills and Laguna Beach and like Real World and all that with my mom.
Big brother, survivor. Yeah. But it was, this feels so different. I think it's also because I grew up around these type of people.

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So that felt extra real for me too. For you, it really hit home because like you lived like in the area.
Yeah, I lived an hour or two from where these people lived and grew up. So it felt very real.
Yeah. Even more so because I'm like, oh, I know this isn't scripted. I know those bitches act like that.
You had a direct link. Like, yeah, truly.
Okay, I can't wait for the next episode. We hope you guys enjoyed.

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Yes, please let us know. We're so, so excited to talk about the rest of the episodes we've picked.
If you want to watch along, the next episode we watched is season four, episode seven.
When they're in Italy.
It's an Italy episode and it's so good.
Stay tuned.

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Bye bye.
Bye.