Carrie and The New Yankee - Sex and the City S2 E1

This week we're talking about another one of Victoria's favorites which contains many iconic quotes, one of which is part of our podcast intro! Carrie goes on a date with a new player for the Yankees after catching his fly ball while Charlotte goes on a date with a "ball player" of her own, and we discuss Sagittarius as a sign.

Episode Transcript

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Hello. Hello.

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So what, no fucking ziti now?
Don't make me laugh.
Hi, welcome to another episode. I'm Trev.
And I'm Victoria. We're two friends who watch too much TV.
We break down iconic episodes of good shows.
And bad.
And explain why we feel the way we do.
Today we're talking about season 2, episode 1 of Sex and the City,

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titled Take Me Out to the Ball Game, which aired on June 6th, 1999.
Now this is one of your favorites.
This is my second favorite.
And I'll tell you a little bit about why I chose it.
To the first glance, you might not be like,
oh, this makes complete sense as a favorite episode,
because it kind of like just flies under the radar, I feel like.

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But to somebody who is like a deep fan, like myself, or like you.
To me, when I saw this on the list, I was like, oh, I would have picked that too.
I was glad that it was on the list, because it was one of those like,
6th or 7th position for me.
Yeah. I think to the normal viewer this episode flies under the radar
and might not really stand out to me, it stands out,

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because there's so many iconic quotes that I still say to this day.
Like, I literally, my entire notes is literally just a list of quotes that I love.
Famously, a part of our intro.
Is from this episode.
Yeah.
Samantha saying don't think that.
Or is it the outro?
It's one of them.
But this is from this episode, because it's like, it's such a good moment.
It's such a good moment.

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The funny moments of this episode are hilarious, funny.
Laugh out loud.
Samantha watching the locker room door close.
Her holding up the little piece of hot dog and asking if Carrie would have sex with...
The cup runneth over.
The cup runneth over.
Fucking...

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There we were with our ball players when they're at the Dolce & Gabbana party.
There are just so many iconic quotes in this.
How are the most beautiful women in Manhattan if we see them will ask?
No.
I also just like, I love this episode because they're together as a group so much in this episode.

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Yes, exactly.
Their vibes are 100% across the floor.
They feel like real friends.
Like when they're all hanging out outside the locker room, it feels very genuine.
And when they're out to lunch and Miranda's being a bitch, it feels very genuine.
Yes.
Like Carrie's laugh in the locker room scenes.

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She's a little drunk.
She's a little drunk.
Her laugh seems so authentic.
I agree.
It's just such a...
It's...
They're so much fun to watch.
This episode felt very real.
You get a good sense of their friendship and who they are as people, I feel like.
More than other episodes.
It's just great characterization, great depiction of their relationship.
Really great emotions throughout.
Yeah.

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Again, I think that...
It's a roller coaster.
Yeah, I think Miranda's emotions are very realistic.
Carrie's emotions when she sees big are realistic.
It just all feels very real.
I think there's also a rare thing we get in this episode is good advice from Carrie.
Yes.
Which is not something we always get where I'm like, oh yeah, that's something that I...

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I think people should pull into their own life.
But we'll talk about that because at the end of the episode.
Yes, definitely.
Alright, so just to start, Carrie...
But also one more thing.
Oh, go ahead.
What's more iconic New York than the fucking Yankees?
Right?
That's another reason, right?
It just feels like New York.
They go to a Dolce and Gabbana party.

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They go to a dive bar.
They go to the cab.
They go to the Bronx.
They go to brunch.
They go to the Yankees game.
It all feels...
It feels so...
It feels so lived in.
Wait, and also bumping into your ex in multiple places in the city.
Yes.
Totally.
Sometimes you look like shit.
Sometimes you look sexy.
Sometimes you do both at the same time, which is a great segue into the beginning.

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Having a spot with your friends, like a consistent...this is the place we always go.
Right.
And then just knowing.
It's a very good New York episode.
It is.
Or just like the place where you live.
It's consensual.
Because I'm sure you feel like that about Seattle.
I do.
And I also feel that way about New York.
Yeah, same.

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It's like...it can't be explained unless you've lived there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's a good classic New York episode.
Agreed.
Yeah, so we start on Carrie looking like shit, but somehow sexy at the same time.
I was like, she looks so good here.

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I feel like I understand why she feels...why she says she feels like shit or looks like
shit.
Yeah.
Because sometimes when you feel like shit, you assume that you look like shit.
Totally.
I mean, she does look a little raggedy.
She has bags under her eyes, smoking the cigarette, but also like the fur coat and like her hair.
The fur coat with jeans.
She looks good.

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Like jeans, t-shirt, heels and a fur coat is so chic.
I agree.
But I understand why she feels that way.
Yeah.
She's talking about how like she thinks she sees big in the crowd and she freaks out,
but it's not actually him.
And then she says, after a breakup, certain streets become off limits and it just reminded
me of Cornelia Street.
No, fully.

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That's how it felt.
It did.
But yeah, again, it's just like, this is how breakups feel.
It is.
It's like you're dodging your ex around every corner.
You're like scared to see them in public, especially when you don't look good or like...
Yeah, and you're like overcompensating from when you do see them.

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Yeah.
I understand exactly what she's going through in this moment.
Me too.
And then, so the girls are hanging out and Miranda and Charlotte go and pick up Carrie
and they're like, we're taking you out of here.
Like we're getting you out of this apartment.
We're like we're rescuing you.
Miranda calls her Anne Frank.
Yeah, it's a little, that was a little inappropriate as a joke.
It was so funny though.

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Yeah, it was.
But Miranda, like what?
Yeah, it's so weird.
Yeah.
Miranda looks good here.
Okay.
I think compared to the rest of the episode.
I'll allow it.
Yeah.
Compared to the rest of it.
Like the leather jacket.
Yes.
With the red underneath.
Like she looks like put together.
Yeah, no, no.
This is good for Miranda, but just in the grand scheme of life.

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Brutal.
Yeah.
How do you feel about the breakup math?
Okay, this, that line...
This is very classic.
She says it takes half the total time you went out with someone to get over them.
I think it changed people's life when she said that.
I think so too, because like people still go by this.
People literally go by that and say that all the time.
A lot of people don't know that it's actually from this show.

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It's like really iconic, but I, I don't know if I subscribe to the breakup math, but I don't disbelieve it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I've never like quantified it myself in my experiences.
I, oh gosh, it's so difficult to remember now because I haven't been through a breakup in a while.
Same.
I don't think it's true.
I don't think it's true.

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I don't think it is it.
Because I've had, I have had some very long relationships and I move on from almost all of them very quickly.
Yeah, I also think the context of the relationship means a lot, like means more.
Like I don't mourn it forever.
Like Charlotte saying that it took her a week to get over that guy.
I would have been over that in two hours.

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Yeah.
I think I definitely had relationships or like seeing someone like for a short amount of time.
Be harder to get over than good people that I've dated for long periods.
Actually, that's true too.
That's true too.
So I think it's just.
But it depends how bad you want the person.
It's so dependent.
Yeah.
Like I don't agree with math.
I think there's no exact science, but I do think it's good to have a baseline.
Yeah.

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Like you should be over it if you're not by the standard.
An aspiration, you know, especially in a time like that when you're just like fucked up.
Yeah, I agree.
But yeah, it is, it is funny to have like the idea of breakup math.
I agree.
And the line is just very iconic.
Yeah.
This is one of those lines that like is still quoted to this day.
People remember it.

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People like live by it.
Yeah.
And they talk about, they just kind of, she gets dressed and she's like fine, but I better not see big.
Better not be anywhere I'm able to see him.
That's all she feels.
That's all she's thinking about right now.
And then even Miranda is like you're a bit overdressed for a Yankee game.
I'm curious.
You're a bit overdressed.

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For where we're going.
For where we're going.
Yeah.
But she's like better to be overdressed or whatever.
Yeah.
She goes, I would rather be overdressed than risk looking the way I feel.
Which I can't, again.
Which is such a leap-ra thing to say.
And I understand where she's coming from.
Like you almost need to overcompensate and be like, no, I need to, I need to look so hot to cover how shit I feel.

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Yep. And I think also just the fact that she's okay with being overdressed is very leap-rever.
Although I would say I'm the kind of person who, if somebody tells me that I'm overdressed, makes me.
Do you think about it?
I do think about it a lot.
I've never been overdressed for anything in my life.
Like I like being overdressed.
Like I like arriving somewhere and noting it to myself.

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Like, hmm, there's a person over there in hoodie and jeans and the website clearly said to dress to the nines.
Yeah, I look up the dress code for places.
I look up the dress code for places.
And if it says to dress to the nines, I dress to the fucking nines.
And sometimes I dress to the nines even if they don't tell me to.
That's true.
There's other times though where I'm, like, for example, Bernie and I will be getting ready.

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And I see her outfit and I'm like, oh wait, like are we not dressing?
Like.
Yeah, did I miss the memo?
Right.
And.
But I think, yeah, I don't know.
I think whatever you want to do.
I didn't carry it.
I should be that way.
It wouldn't make sense for Kerry not to dress up like this.
I think I should be more like that.
But I think about it a lot more than I probably should.

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Because I'm the opposite where I'm always like, I'm never overdressed.
I don't.
You never consider yourself overdressed?
No, I'm never one.
I know I'm never overdressed and I don't consider myself overdressed.
I don't own nice clothes.
Okay.
Like, you know what I mean?
I don't own clothes that are nice, like good quality, but I don't own like a lot of dress

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clothes.
Okay.
Like I'm very much like, if I'm comfortable, that's what matters.
That's definitely true.
Yeah.
But I also, like I feel like dress clothes should even feel comfortable too though.
Totally.
But I just like, I think I have like one nice shirt and one kind of nice pants.
Do you find yourself in a lot of occasions where dressing up is like necessary though?

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No, thank God.
Okay.
Because every time I am, I'm just so uncomfortable.
Well, there you go.
Like,
But yeah, so I'm definitely like a, I've never thought, if I, I've never wondered if I'm
overdressed and I've never been overdressed.
Like I'm, I'm very confident.
That's good.
In saying that.
It's good.
It's good that you feel comfortable in your wardrobe and you feel comfortable with what

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you wear and secure in your body and like.
Yeah.
I'm like, I'm just some guy.
Sometimes when you get dressed up, it has like, it's like a double edged sword.
Sometimes it makes me feel really happy and confident and other times it makes me feel
like more stressed out than I think I should over be like clothes.
Yeah.
I mean, and that's not even your fault because it's just like everyone is evil.

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Yeah.
I shouldn't be stressed out over clothes, but anyway.
No.
Okay.
So if that's one thing, one lesson we take from sex in the city.
Yes.
Don't stress over clothes unless it's about how you're paying for them.
Although I will say Carrie does not care about how she pays for her clothes very much.
Like she barely talks about it.
Other people tend to bring it up and then she's just like, eh, whatever.
Yeah.

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She's like, I just want to look nice.
And she's right.
Yes.
Um, her Gucci purse is stunning.
So chic.
She's so chic.
She is.
She's everything I want to be in more.
I honestly, yeah, I get it.
And then we have them picking up James or picking up Miranda or God damn it.
Samantha.

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Yeah.
From James's.
And they're like, they're like, just get, why can't you get over big?
Wait, they're talking before they pick up Samantha and they're like, why can't you just get over it?
Like, oh, yes.
Time to move on.
And Miranda's like, you broke up with him, remember?
And Carrie's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that makes me what?
Happy?

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Like the dial.
Which is reasonable.
This dialogue in this episode is very snappy.
I love it.
Yeah.
It's a lot.
Yes.
So, uh, low periods.
Yeah.
But yeah, I think, again, Carrie's right.
She is right.
Just because you, you did the breaking up doesn't mean it's easier.
Yeah.
So the cab stops in front of Samantha's house and she kisses her boyfriend and Charlotte's

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like, come on, you two love birds.
And he calls her my princess.
Yeah.
He calls her my princess and she's like, aw.
And then he's like, how are the most beautiful women in Manhattan?
And Miranda goes, if we see them, we'll ask.
She is such, she is on one in this episode.
She's such a bitch.
Like she's really being bitchy in this episode.
For no reason.

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Right?
Like he's just being nice.
Yeah.
He's corny, but.
He's a little corny, but it's still nice to be called beautiful.
Yeah.
And then.
Maybe she doesn't feel beautiful and we see that a lot in this episode, honestly.
That's true too.
And then they're all talking about James and Samantha and how it's all going.
And she's like, yep, me, James and his tiny dick.

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And the fact is like he's standing right there and she's like.
He's right there.
Making eye contact with him while she says it.
And she's not quiet.
And also it's like, girl, he's going to read, he can like read your lips or something.
Oh my God.
I hate Sagittarius sometimes.
They, Sagittarian people do not give a fuck what people think.
At least wait until you get down the block.
Sagittarius people are the type of people to insult someone when they're standing behind them in line at a grocery store.

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Literally.
Like I kind of love that energy, but it's also like, I don't want to be around that.
Me too, because when I'm around that other people are like, I feel like judging me a little bit.
Like, why are you friends with that person?
Same.
No, I feel this.
I 100% feel that like I don't want to like.
Leave me out of it.
But at the same time I have a Sagittarius moon and I have to say like, it's kind of fun to not give a fuck.

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Also our favorite Sagittarius, Nicki Minaj.
And our other one Snicky.
Yes, and Taylor Swift.
Oh my God.
I forgot she was a Sag.
December 13th.
Can I be honest about something?
She doesn't feel like a Sagittarius.
Exactly.
But, but she, because she's so calculated.
She's watery.
I wonder what her moon is and what her Mercury is.

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Those are the two most important as far as like a musician or a public figure go because Mercury is how you speak and talk and she's a songwriter.
Yeah.
And then her moon is her emotions and she puts all of her emotions into her song.
Her moon is in cancer.
I knew it.
She's so watery.
She's so fucking watery.
Do you want to guess what her Mercury is?
Yes.

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Gemini.
Capricorn.
Oh, I was way off.
Really?
Capricorn?
Well, actually that makes sense because she's kind of guarded.
She uses a lot of like metaphors and similes in her, in her songs.
Yeah, she doesn't come out and say it.
No, it's all games.
Yeah.
But yeah, she does not give Sagittarius in the same way.

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Yeah, I agree.
Oh, Tina Turner too.
Wow.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace, Tina.
What were we talking about?
We were talking about the cab ride where they're talking about, so Samantha is talking about her boyfriend and how he has a small dick.
And they arrive at Yankee Stadium and Carrie says it cost $55 to get there for the cab ride.

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Bitch, take the subway.
What the fuck's wrong with you?
I literally thought the same thing.
It would literally, like...
$55, you would have paid $3.75 for a subway ride.
It's not even.
M-T-A.
I feel like Price has gone up since I last lived there.
Well, yeah, but in 1999.
A dollar fifty.

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Oh my god, I hate them.
They're so stupid and bougie.
Like, girl.
A cab, y'all are piled into the backseat of that stuffy ass cab.
You could have just been on the fucking like...
$55.
Train.
Bold.
And been fine.
Bold.
It's so silly.
That's another one of the silly things watching this show back as an adult and like as someone who like has experienced New York.

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They had no interest in being normal people though.
They were like considered like the Glitterati type.
We don't see the subway until and just like that.
Right.
And who even takes it, Miranda?
Miranda.
Because she's going to school in Columbia from Brooklyn.
That makes complete sense.
Yeah.
But it's just like $55.
But I mean the seats they got probably were like $5.

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Nosebleeds.
Yeah.
My parents used to go get tickets like that, like at the drop of a dime.
It'd be $10 for two tickets.
I love that.
The same time they dropped me off at my aunt's and they're like, yeah, we're going to a Yankee game.
That's fun.
Yeah.
Ah man.
The good old days of New York.
Truly.

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I would kill for a hot dog.
Okay.
I knew you were going to bring that up.
What is the little hot dog talk in the past few episodes?
I don't know.
But it just looks like they look so good.
Like a beer and a hot dog at a baseball game is like healing.
There's nothing better.
Nothing better.
And then we get a funny Giuliani call out.
We get a funny Giuliani call out.
We got a very iconic another line that changed people's lives.

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I was a fan of anywhere you could smoke and drink at two in the afternoon without judgment.
She's so real for that.
One of the most screen-shotted scenes in the entire show.
Put that on a fucking plaque.
And Miranda in the sunglasses eating her hot dog is another one of the most screen-shotted scenes.
This is like the one time I relate to Miranda a lot.
They all look so good, honestly.

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They all look so good.
Samantha and Carrie are not dressed for a Yankee game.
I love them.
But they look good.
Charlotte's trying her hardest.
Yeah.
I think this might be appropriate to wear to a baseball game.
Charlotte at least looks comfortable.
Yeah.
Carrie asks if they have hot cocoa, which I thought was funny.

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Or is that Charlotte?
No, it was Carrie.
That is so silly.
And Samantha's like, I can barely see him. Why are we sitting all the way up here?
She's such a seat snob.
Yeah, she's like, I'm not poor.
She's like, who the hell bought these tickets?
She's like, I'm not broke. What's the deal?

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And then we get the Giuliani line.
But yeah, Yankee games are so much fun.
This feels good watching.
The thing is about a baseball game, really any live sport.
Being with friends and a little bit of alcohol and grub like this make it much more enjoyable.
Yeah, you can't go alone.

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I mean, you probably could if you were a huge fan.
But I would just say like all of these things that they're doing right now at this game makes live sports so much more enjoyable.
Like when we went to the hockey game.
Yes.
And we were like trash.
There was maybe 10 people in that entire.
Yeah.
But we had the best fucking time.
And some guy behind me started screaming at me. I'm like, dude, there's about 150,000 seats in this fucking arena.

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And you're bitching about me singing along to Shania Twain. Get your ass up.
How can Shania Twain come on and you don't start singing along?
Like I was like, sit down, put your feet down, sit down.
He was like hollering at me. I'm like, dude, they're down by like 12 points.
It's not that. It's a fucking like double A hockey game.
He needs to shut up. I hate him.

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Fuck that guy.
Whatever he was. Yeah.
Okay. I have watched this episode so many times that it's like literally just burned in my brain.
Same.
Samantha pulls a piece of her hot dog off and says to Carrie, how would you like to make love to this every night?
And Carrie goes, is it kosher?
Oh my God.
And then we get the line, don't make me laugh.

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It's so fucking cute.
It's just.
It's so cute.
It's that's one of those moments in this episode where they just, it feels authentic, which is why damn Kim Ketral is such a good actress because she hates these bitches.
It feels, she's the best actress on the show.
Without a doubt.
She's the best actress on the show. She is on another level to the point.

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I believe her character so much that she made us believe she was friends with these bitches.
Yes. She's such a good actress.
Meanwhile, Miranda's just screaming at the fucking team.
She's like, yeah.
And like screaming stats at the girls and they're like, we don't care.
She's such a dyke.
Miranda, the guy can't hear you, but I'm the same at hockey games.
I literally won't call her a hockey game.
Yeah, you have to.

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But she's such a dyke here saying these random stats and none of them know what she's talking about.
At all.
Nor do they care.
They don't care at all.
And then the new Yankee hits a fly ball up into the stands.
Carrie looks freaking amazing with these sunglasses and this fur coat.
Miranda tries to catch it.
The guy's stupid does not.
It falls on the ground and then Carrie picks it up.

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And it's hers.
And meanwhile, behind them, Charlotte spells popcorn all over of Samantha.
And in her beer.
She's so dumb.
She's just like, they look, oh god, they look like they're having so much fucking fun.
Did you notice something about Miranda?
What?
She's wearing a Fendi coat.
She's so bougie.

(21:49):
She is.
That coat is just iconic.
Then she dresses like shit the rest of the episode.
What's going on with her?
I don't know.
Patricia Fields, what's happening?
I think, you know what I think?
Miranda has very low self-esteem.
Oh yeah, that's this whole episode.
In moments where she feels confident, she looks amazing.

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Moments where she does not feel confident or is feeling insecure about something, she looks like shit.
Yeah, she has no poker face in the same way Carrie does.
I agree.
But then Carrie flashes her press pass in the next scene to get them into the locker room area so they could get her ball signed by the new Yankee.

(22:31):
Right, and Carrie looks again amazing.
So sexy.
So sickeningly.
Her smile is just so radiant.
Her coat looks amazing.
Her hair is perfect.
Long, curly.
Just like, I don't give a fuck.
And then her sunglasses, which these gold Ray-Ban Aviator sunglasses are just one of the most iconic silhouettes for a pair of sunglasses in the world.

(22:52):
I still have mine.
And they're just amazing.
And she's just like a little loose from the liquor.
Yeah, and she's like giggling and like flirty.
And she tells the freaking baseball player, hey, could you hold these and hands him her sunglasses?
Like, girl?
She just doesn't care.
She does not care and it's amazing.
I'm obsessed with it.

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She is such an it girl.
She is.
And the guy is like charmed by her immediately.
Yeah, the thing is she's like not being a dick.
She's just kind of like that and she's so naturally flirty.
That she's just, how could you not be charmed by her?
She just has that, she has that little energy that.
Je ne sais quoi.
I knew you were going to say that.

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Because she does.
It's just like there's no other way to put it.
She's so chic.
Yeah, she is.
And then he signs the ball.
She even says to him, I think baseball is a little dull.
Yeah, she's like.
Right to his fucking face, the fucking newest player on the fucking team.
Which is probably why he's even into her because she's like not a chaser.
Yeah, she's not chasing him.
She just thinks nothing.

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She's.
Yeah, she's like whatever, you're cute.
You're just some guy who plays baseball.
Yeah.
Miranda, meanwhile, is like, I can't believe this.
Miranda is like geeking out.
She's freaking out.
And also when Carrie says that she's literally going to ask him to the party,
Miranda is like, you can't just ask him.
Girl, maybe if you weren't such a scaredy-cat with low self-confidence.

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You would have a cute, you would be able to ask out the cute Yankee too.
She's shocked that Carrie did that.
She's stupefied.
Like she is literally dumbfounded.
She can't believe it.
Yeah, it's like girl, just have a fucking set of balls.
Yeah.
But it is cute that Carrie running over to him.
I love it.
It's very cute.
And then I love the sequence that comes after that of the different interviews with everybody.

(24:41):
Like how do you get over a breakup?
Yeah.
Or like what is the rules to getting over a breakup?
And that one guy is like, do whatever you got it, buy her presents, go show up at her house,
whatever you got to do, but don't sign a motherfucking thing.
Yeah.
And then the other guy is like, don't cry because then if you get back with her, you're
the guy who cried.
Oh my goodness.
That's hilarious.

(25:02):
I love all these little interstitials we get because we don't get them for much longer.
It's like a nice crossover from the first season where I don't like when the camera stops
and there's labels on the screen and shit.
Yeah.
It just feels...
This is a good middle ground.
It feels like a very good middle ground, agreed.

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I wish they had kept this style for longer.
Me too.
I think I would have liked this because it's kind of like interviews for her column in
a way.
Yes, exactly.
It feels more...
But it also feels more fluid.
Not as heavy handed.
Yeah, it's not as heavy handed like...
100%.
We don't need the guy's name and job, you know?
Yeah, I enjoyed it a lot more.

(25:44):
Agreed.
And they're funnier.
They are funnier.
They feel like random portraits of people, not like super specific like we need to know
who this character is, you know?
Yeah, because it's like, why do I care?
Right.
And then she goes back home and she's getting ready for the Dolce & Gabbana party and she
accidentally bumps into a picture of her in big that she forgot she had.

(26:08):
Devastating.
This post-breakup finding a photo.
Or finding anything, like any kind of memento.
It can really ruin your day.
When it's still raw.
When it's really still raw.
Yeah.
Ugh.
It can fucking ruin your day.
Her quote...
Has that ever happened to you?
It has.
Same.
It was so real and I felt it in my heart and soul.

(26:30):
She says, destroy all pictures where he looks sexy and I look happy.
Oh, God, yeah.
Everything.
I felt that in my fucking soul.
At the number of times I felt that, like, you know, sometimes I'll go back and look
at old pictures and thankfully, like, by now I've deleted all pictures of any of my exes.
But back in the day, I would like stumble across one in my photos.
It's like nostalgic self-harm.

(26:51):
Yeah.
It's bad.
It's like, why the fuck did I even just do that?
Yeah.
I definitely had a pattern of doing that too for a long time, but thankfully I am beyond
that now.
I've broken that pattern.
Thank God.
Yes.
I'm proud of us.
Also, we are in very committed partnerships.
Yeah.
We're just in better places in our lives.
Like, even if I wasn't in a relationship right now, I still don't think I would go and do

(27:14):
that.
Yeah.
I don't think I would be either.
Good.
I'm proud of us.
Thankfully.
No.
I'm proud of the party and Charlotte brings one date and Kari brings the Yankee and Charlotte's
date has this thing where he keeps adjusting his balls at the party.
Yeah.
Look, sometimes you gotta, I like, I can't, I don't have anything else to add.

(27:37):
Sometimes you just gotta adjust.
Yeah.
This man's doing it a lot.
I don't get why they make such a fuss about it.
Yeah.
Like, is he doing it a lot?
Yeah.
It's a little weird.
You're in public, but like, I get it.
I think if he just did it one time, it wouldn't be as big of a deal.
100%.
But it is like a noticeable thing.
He's also kind of annoying.
Yeah.
When he's talking about his music thing.

(27:57):
It's like just let people not be interested in something.
Right.
Like the other guy never said he didn't really like jazz.
He just said that he never listened to Miles Davis and that it wasn't his thing.
Yeah.
He's like, it's just not my thing.
And he's like, oh, well, I'll give you this.
Like, no, let it just relax, Diva.

(28:17):
Yeah.
Chill.
Like, you can like it.
Yeah, exactly.
I will say though, like there's certain things that I just like, I find myself shocked when
some people say certain things.
Well, yeah, I'm going to judge you, but I'm going to do it quietly to myself.
That's nice of you.
You know, like, I'm going to, or I'm going to talk shit later with my friends.

(28:40):
Right.
Like, can you believe that person doesn't like McDonald's?
Yeah.
Or someone tells me like, oh, I don't like Moonstruck.
I'm like, okay.
Well, your opinion is completely invalid.
Right.
I'm not, I'm not going to take what you say for anything other than grain of salt, but
I'm going to text my friends later and be like, oh my God, this fucking idiot.
What a loser.

(29:00):
You know, I just like, leave it be.
But the Yankee is so charming though.
He's very charming.
He's a very chill guy.
He has tourist vibes.
Yeah.
He's a good energy for Carrie.
He's just calm, quiet, happy, confident, not really, he doesn't, he's not really.
He doesn't seem like he's expecting a lot.

(29:22):
Right.
And he doesn't even seem like, he doesn't seem like Starstruck or like, people don't
seem Starstruck by him.
Like he's just, you know, a nice, normal guy.
Cause he's also still the new kid on the block.
It's not like she's dating like the captain.
You know what I mean?
So it's like, there's a certain level of like rookie fame that he has, but he's not like

(29:43):
he's not the most famous player.
Right.
Where there's a certain level of, oh my God.
Right.
He's just the new kid on the block.
He's not really super famous yet.
And I think that works for Carrie because he is attractive and he is a little bit well
known.
Like she ends up on page six because of it.
But he's not a celebrity yet.

(30:05):
So she's almost similar levels of famous within New York.
Yes.
And I think they are a good match for each other at this point because like, yeah, the
two of them on their own isn't enough to get them in page six, but combined their powers
are page six.
So Carrie says that she spent way too much money on her dress for the party and she thinks

(30:28):
she sees big, but she doesn't.
And she looks so good.
She looks so good.
The dress was definitely worth the money.
And then Samantha literally says the exact same thing the next morning at brunch.
So Carrie didn't see big, the party ends, she kisses the Yankee goodbye and then the
next day they all get brunch to kind of debrief.
Yeah.

(30:48):
And Miranda was like, she was like, Miranda was a fit.
Yeah.
Miranda's gonna, Miranda's like, okay, I'm gonna go get the bill.
And Charlotte's like, oh my God, you're in page six.
And she looks at the picture and they look good together.
And Samantha's like, that dress just paid for itself, which like, I totally agree with
her.

(31:09):
I 100% agree.
She looked amazing in that color, that nice cerulean.
Yeah.
And with her hair, it's just so beachy.
Yes.
And Miranda tries to change the subject by talking about her palm pilot, which is just
deranged.
Who gives a fuck?
Nobody cares, girl.
That was the worst possible like, changing conversation that you could have done.
Yeah.

(31:29):
It's just so unserious.
But she's right about what she says about big.
She's like, why are we still talking about him?
He hurt her.
She's totally right.
She's totally right.
I think she's right to an extent because it's like, most of the time it's Carrie bringing
it up, which is her right to do as like the person who got hurt.

(31:51):
That's true.
You know, it's not like, like, it's not like Carrie's the one saying like, hey guys, like
let's not talk about it anymore.
And then Miranda kind of backing her up.
It's like Miranda's own insecurities.
She's projecting, I feel like.
Because Carrie's not the one who's annoyed by it being brought up.
She is the one bringing it up.
Yeah.
She's not annoyed by it because she's still working through it.

(32:11):
New Yankee or not.
Like, as we see throughout the episode, like at the end, she more or less says the same
thing.
Like, it just takes some time.
Right.
And then, Miranda, you know what I don't get though, about this scene?
Miranda is always the one who's the most bothered when they talk about like men or other things

(32:35):
like that.
When they act vapid or when they act kind of shallow, like fashion.
When she's just a shallow.
Fashion, boys, blah, blah, blah.
And it's like, what show do you think you're on?
Yeah, it's like, you know these women.
You've known them for presumably.
The show is called Sex and the City.
You're supposed to be best friends with them.
They talk about it all the time.
You've been friends with them for what I'm assuming is like a decade at least.

(32:56):
Yeah.
These are your only real friends you hang out with.
Why are you acting brand new?
I don't get it.
It's just like, and wearing, you're wearing a stupid little hat.
I hate Miranda, that hat.
It's crazy.
It's so bad.
Like why is she so mad?
Pull it further onto your head or don't wear it.
Because she's also, she's just a shallow.

(33:16):
She's just as vapid.
It's just that she's, it's literally like she's the kid on the playground who's like,
well, it's my ball.
We play, I want to play by my rules or not at all.
So it's okay when she's complaining about why she, guys she's dating, but like when
the girls are having, like when Carrie's going through a serious breakup.
Like this is the only time where I really feel like it's okay to talk about men as much

(33:40):
as they do.
Yeah.
Because it's like Carrie's going through, she was with this guy for a year.
She just broke up with him a month ago.
Let her fucking go through it.
That's so fresh.
Yeah.
It's so fresh.
Like she needs to talk about it.
It's not like it's a year later and she's still bitching about it.
She's being cunty.
I mean she will be.
Miranda's being cunty.
Yeah.
And then Miranda gets so fed up that she literally leaves and I'm like, good, goodbye.

(34:04):
Cause you're hanging.
Bye.
You're a loser.
You're in your loser mode.
Period.
And then we cut to Samantha and she's of course having sex.
She's trying to make this relationship work.
God bless her.
She's trying to make this sexual relationship work.
Samantha is putting in a lot of effort.
More than she probably should.
The guy does.
Yeah.
I mean, although she could have had a conversation with him and been like, you're dick is strong.
Well, yeah, she could have been honest, but it's like, and cause it's.

(34:26):
Is it not appropriate to talk about, I've never dated a man or I've never talked about
that with a man before.
I mean, like, I don't know.
I, I guess for some people, yeah.
Some people are really self conscious about that type of thing.
Okay.
That makes sense.
But it's also like if you're in a relationship with someone, you should be honest with them
about something like that, like especially about sex and how like integral that is to

(34:49):
you and your relationship.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, she's the kind of person who this really matters to her.
Yeah.
I mean, like the Samantha that I know at least probably would have just talked about it with
them.
And I think the thing is, it's like, he's a nice guy and he's good to her.
Oh.
So she doesn't want to hurt his feelings, maybe.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Because he isn't like a douchebag.

(35:09):
He's just like a sweetie who happens to like not be able to do what this thing she needs.
Yeah.
But I don't know, but she, they're trying.
She's trying.
He's trying.
Samantha's coaching is funny.
It's so funny.
It's one of my favorite scenes in the whole show.
I agree.
It's so funny.
She's just like not subtle.
Not subtle at all.
And the guy is oblivious.

(35:30):
The guy is a completely nice guy, but he's totally oblivious to what she's doing.
I think he thinks that she's just trying to like be a little bit more in control or something
like, like he seems receptive to it and reacts positively to every single thing she does.
He's listening.
He doesn't seem like someone else.
She's giving him instructions and she's listening.
Right.

(35:51):
I think her just pulling out the vibrator is crazy.
And then he's like, um, what is that?
And she's like my vibrator.
And he's like, I thought it'd be fun.
And he's like, it's more fun with just us.
Like girly talk to him.
Yeah.
Let him know that you, this is something you need.
Yeah.
Just tell him the truth.
I need this right now.
And it's also just like crazy to bring that whip it out.

(36:12):
Right.
Like without letting him know.
He's kind of deserved a heads up.
Yeah.
But I, yeah, I feel bad for the guy.
I feel bad for her.
But you know what?
A for effort.
They look, they look, they make a cute couple.
Yes.
He's very handsome.
But it's just, it's clear that she, like he's not going to be able to give her what

(36:33):
she needs.
No, he's more handsome than Charlotte's boyfriend who acts crazy.
I agree.
He's insane.
Okay.
Let's move on to that.
So Charlotte buys her man a new pair of underwear and she tells him like they're, they're super
supportive.
There's something about the pouch that is like, yeah, she says they're like a sport, like
a, like a push-up bra for men.

(36:54):
And then the guy's reaction is totally excessive.
He's like, it reminds me of the guy from SpongeBob with the diet, Dr. Kelp.
Yes.
It's exactly that.
That's such a good way to put it.
He's calm at first, but then he spirals out of control.
He flips out and like I can understand.
Like I don't think she did anything wrong.
No, she got him a gift.

(37:16):
I mean, no, what was it?
You know what the motives are?
No, Barney's.
Barney's.
Okay.
Yeah.
Expensive.
It is crazy that they haven't had sex yet and they've only been dating three weeks and
she did this.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
A little bit.
I would say after sex, I would be more receptive of this.

(37:36):
Well, yeah.
Cause underwear is kind of an inherently intimate gift.
It's intimate.
Yeah.
It's intimate.
Yeah.
So I would say if they had been having sex already, I wouldn't think it's crazy.
I don't think it's crazy.
I mean, at all.
Yeah.
He's overreacting.
He definitely is.
But I would assume, like if he was like, well, that's a little weird.
I would be more understanding of his reaction, but he went off the deep end.

(37:57):
He went off the deep end.
He's like, we haven't even had sex yet and you're buying me underwear?
And he like freaks out.
Underwear is so expensive.
He should have just accepted the gift and.
And he's not cute enough to be acting like this.
Why did he not just lay her down and fuck her right then and there?
Yeah.
So she's down to fuck you.

(38:18):
It's not that she doesn't want to fuck you.
Yeah.
From what I can tell.
Like she was just making out with you.
Obviously, and she's inviting you to her bedroom like, babe, the signs are there.
She gave you a gift, a pair of underwear as a gift.
She cares about what's in your pants.
I don't get his reaction.
The more we're talking about it, the more weird it seems to me.

(38:39):
It is so kooky, but I guess it's like you need to make a point of why they break up.
Like his kookiness.
Yeah.
And then we, in the voiceover, Carrie says that Charlotte was over him in exactly a week
and a half.
Yeah.
She's like, and true to form, she was over him in a week and a half because that's her
math.
It's her math.

(39:00):
And you know what?
Good for her.
I liked that they circled back around to that and capped it at the end of the episode.
Yeah.
Because we don't see Charlotte or Samantha again for the rest of the episode.
Right.
We wrap on Carrie and Miranda.
Yes.
Which is good.
It's a good way to end it.
And Miranda's next scene, she has never looked more like a lesbian.
She's wearing overalls, a baseball hat.

(39:20):
She looks nuts here.
She looks...
Why is she dressing like a member of Kris Kross?
She literally just looks so gay in very 90s.
Yeah.
Everything does not fit.
She sees her ex with the woman that apparently he left her for.
And she freaks out and runs like Phoebe Buffet.
Yeah.
Like she just looks so kooky and weird when she runs away like that.

(39:43):
That's one of my favorite fucking jokes and friends.
Me too.
She runs like Kermit the Frog.
Oh my god.
But yeah, she looks...
Is it Rachel that runs funny or Phoebe?
Phoebe runs funny.
Phoebe runs funny.
Rachel says that Phoebe runs like Kermit the Frog.
Yes.
Okay.
But I...
Yeah, that's such a good comparison.
That's exactly how she's running.

(40:05):
And yeah, she like bugs out.
She just shocked by it.
Yeah.
Which I look...
The first time seeing your ex, we see that in the next scene too with Karen.
Ruff.
So hard.
Scary, brutal.
It's not easy.
You don't even know what to say.
So I have empathy for it.
You don't...
Sometimes you don't say anything.
Yeah.
I have a lot of empathy for it.
Yeah.

(40:26):
And it teaches Miranda a good lesson on how to be a better friend.
And how to be humble.
Yeah.
She acts like she's all high and mighty like, I'm over a guy and I don't care anymore.
Once I'm over him, I don't think about him.
I have the same exact note.
Like she just...
She got knocked off her pedestal.
She thought that she was high and mighty for always being over the guy fast and not

(40:48):
thinking about him after the breakup and blah, blah, blah.
But then she was confronted with him and the first thing she did was freak out and get
super high.
Hide.
She hid.
Yeah.
She hid.
So she's not who she thinks she is.
Yeah.
Not who she wants to be maybe.
Yeah.
And it's a necessary evil for her to be there at the end for Keri.
Right.
The very second to last scene is Keri goes out on another date with the Yankee and they're

(41:15):
talking and whatever and playing a little game at the bar, I think they're throwing
peanuts at each other.
Yeah.
He's like teaching her a dugout stuff.
Right.
And all of a sudden Keri sees Big in the back of the room and she locks eyes with him and
they stare at each other for a while and the Yankee just looking at her like, what are
you looking at?
Yeah.
He's just like letting her kind of have her moment.

(41:36):
And then Big walks up to Keri and is like, hey, how have you been and stuff?
And Keri looks good here.
Yeah, she looks really good.
I almost feel like she looked better in the first scene though.
I think so too, but she looks more like put together here.
Every day here.
Yeah.
And I think she feels like she probably tried harder for this outfit than she did for the

(41:56):
one in the opening scene.
So that's probably it comes back to looking how you feel versus feeling how you look.
Sort of thing.
100%.
And they kind of have this connection moment where you can tell they kind of miss each
other and he puts his hand on her shoulder and the world slows down for a second.
Yeah, it warps.

(42:18):
And at this moment, I literally paused it and texted my family group chat and was like,
what does Keri see in Big?
Because my mom loves Big, although recently she's told me that she doesn't like him anymore
and she understands why I hate him.
She's finally gotten off of that.
Yeah, I don't understand what she sees in him.
Yeah, it just doesn't make sense.

(42:40):
I don't get it.
And then she immediately leaves the bar like a little bit later after seeing him with the
Yankee and they kiss, but then she starts crying and she's like, I gotta go.
Like, don't follow me.
Leave me alone.
And he's like, yeah.
I know, like I feel bad for the Yankee here, but I understand where Keri is coming from.

(43:03):
Wait, me too.
I mean, and I understand like, but no.
Well, the breakup's still fresh, but I also feel like I'm the kind of person who's maybe
a little bit more vindictive than Keri.
And I think I would have wanted to like play up my relationship after seeing my ex and maybe
even more play it up more in front of him.

(43:26):
Yeah.
To be like, I'm over you, even though I'm not like setting that message.
You're like the third breakup, I think that's where she lands.
But I think the power dynamic is still so uneven here for them where she's still just
kind of like shell shocked by a breakup.

(43:47):
You know?
Yeah.
But yeah, she looks sad.
It's really a bummer to see her crying like this.
I hate seeing her cry.
Yeah, it hurts my heart.
She gets to a pay phone and she calls someone.
She calls someone.
And then suddenly it's me.
Can you meet me at our spot?
And the fake out is that we think she's meeting big, but of course it's actually Miranda.
Yeah.
Miranda sitting there with a huge smile on her face and it's like, of course she's meeting

(44:10):
Miranda.
It's like, Miranda is her most level headed, rational friend and she always tells it like
it is.
Yeah.
She needs that kind of like almost tough love.
Yeah.
In this moment, she needs it.
Sometimes Miranda gives it to her when she doesn't want it or need it and it comes across
really mean.
Yeah.
And Miranda admits she's wrong and that she explains what happened with her today seeing

(44:35):
her ex, Eric, I think is his name.
And they just kind of have a moment of like, take the time you need.
It's not easy.
They understand each other.
It's not a science.
And Carrie says she's like, the fries are cold and Miranda just goes so.
And they keep eating them.
It's such a sweet moment.
Yeah, it is.

(44:55):
It's such a subtle thing.
It is a very subtle thing.
It's like, we don't care if the food is cold.
Like it goes beyond.
We just need to be with each other.
Yeah.
Yep.
Like this is a soulmate situation.
Yeah.
And then Carrie gives good advice.
It's like, you know what, no matter how long breakups take to get over, the most important
thing is like being good at it with your friends.
So fucking true.

(45:15):
There's so many.
It's such good advice.
You need your friends in those moments.
Yes.
It's so necessary to like have that support system and that type of scenario, especially
a serious relationship like that.
The number of breakups I've been through were the only, like I would literally just like,
if it weren't for my friends, I would be, I don't know where I'd be.
I would be something.
You gave me the best advice I've ever gotten after a breakup.

(45:37):
Are you serious?
Yeah.
That I still live by to this day.
I'm touched.
What was the advice?
Well, it was about seeing your show.
If you remember that.
Oh yes, I remember that.
Inviting my ex to it.
Yeah.
And you basically told me, well, you're going to regret it either way.
So you might as well take the chance.
Oh my God.
I live by that advice too.
Yeah.

(45:58):
And you literally, you told me that while we were setting up your show stuff.
Yeah.
And I was like, fuck it, you're right.
Like I might as well take the plunge.
And if I regret it, I regret it.
But at least I tried.
Yes.
And now I, that's like, when I moved to Philly, that was my thought process.
When I moved to Maine, when I messaged Tony on Twitter.
Oh my God.
Like I live by, I fully, I give that advice to people now and I'm like, my best friend

(46:20):
told me this once and I like, stick, I slip by it.
I live by that advice in my personal life.
I apply it to my life so often.
Yeah.
When other people are conflicted between the decision, I'm like, look.
Do the scary thing.
Yeah.
More often than not, I encourage them to do the scary thing.
And I'm like, look, let me put it this way.
You're scared to do it.

(46:40):
And the number one reason you're scared of it is because of rejection.
The worst thing somebody can say is no.
And at least you tried and got that no.
But if you didn't try, you would be telling yourself no before even knowing if the other
person would say no.
So it's like, you have to try because you're never going to know unless you try.
And it sounds so simple and stupid to say it like that.
No, it's true though.

(47:01):
But it's literally the truest, like you just have to.
I 100% agree and like literally that advice you gave me what, five years ago?
Yes.
I apply it every week probably.
Oh my God.
I'm so happy to hear that.
I love that.
Yeah.
But it's, it's, this is exactly that too.
It's like you, I, if I didn't, if you didn't give me that advice, I don't know what.

(47:23):
Like, how different my life would be.
Sometimes you just need your friends to get you through it.
And sometimes you need somebody to like, like if they, if sometimes they are the only people
who have the advice that you need to hear in that moment.
And I think Kerry knew that Miranda was that person.
Exactly.
And especially because like your friends have been through similar stuff to you probably
because you're assumed you're in the same age bracket, like whatever.

(47:47):
So it's like you had been through breakups and stuff and hard stuff like that.
So you gave me advice that you had used.
That worked for you.
So it's like Miranda's been through this already.
Kerry needs her.
Yep.
You need that kind of like, hey, I survived this.
It's not easy.
Yeah.
But I did and you will too.

(48:07):
It was just a perfect way to end that episode in my life.
Yeah.
It's such a good episode.
It's such a good moment for Kerry and Miranda this episode.
Yep.
And it really solidifies them as like as close as they are throughout the rest of the series.
I agree.
And it's like, especially because Miranda is so annoying in this episode, but at the
end it's you're more endeared to her and you're softer with her.

(48:31):
Yes.
Because you do understand like, oh, she's acting out because she's like insecure and upset
and like she's been through enough shit on her own.
Exactly.
Like it gives you a more, you give her more grace by the end of it.
And you get a better picture of Miranda who she is.
Yeah.
She might act like she's all tough and like act like she's not a vulnerable person, but
she really deeply is.

(48:51):
And it's only when she's confronted by the things that make her feel insecure that we
see her vulnerability.
Other than that, she's like stony and hard and very cold towards the others.
But then when she is knocked out for pedestal either by like her environment or another
person or even by her own self is when we see her act a little bit more human.

(49:11):
Yeah.
She needs her.
She almost needs to get like knocked down a peg to be like to be normal.
And yeah, to like she needs an outer force to break down her wall so then she can be
normal with her friends.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
And like, hey, whatever it takes, it's whatever, but it is nice to see her kind of get knocked

(49:36):
back a step and realize, fuck, I'm being an asshole to my friend.
I should just be there for her.
Right.
Yeah, I love this episode.
Great episode.
I'm so fucking glad you picked this episode.
Me too.
I'm really excited to keep going.
Do you know what episode we're doing next?
Yes, let me look quick.
I'm never prepared.
I know.
We always ask each other and neither of us is ever prepared.
No, you think at this point I would know.

(49:58):
This is my second episode.
It's season two, episode four.
And it's the episode with the iconic single and fabulous magazine cover.
Oh my God, love.
Love this episode.
Very excited to talk about it.
Can't wait.
Please watch it before next week.
Please.
It's another iconic one.
It's an iconic one.

(50:19):
You have to watch it.
Yeah.
Honestly, just watch all the episodes as we talk about them.
Yeah, if you haven't been doing that, you're missing it.
Sex in the City is such a...
It's so different than all the other stuff we've watched.
I would...
Now, let me walk this through before you come at me on this.
I would say compared to everything else we've watched, I would compare it most to Gilmore

(50:42):
Girls because everything is so low stakes.
It's so day in the life, situational and interpersonal.
So watching it is so necessary because there aren't these big...
Like Grey's Anatomy.
There aren't train explosions and bombers and bullets and all this stuff.

(51:03):
There aren't big musical numbers and shit like there is in Glee.
It's just interpersonal conflict.
So watching it is so necessary to actually understand.
Right.
So I would say please watch next week and then we'll get into it.
We can't wait to listen to it.
We can't wait to hear what y'all think.
So let us know.

(51:24):
Yes, I'm so excited.
And thank you for listening.
Thank you so much.
Follow us on all the social media and things of the sort.
Yes.
Review, tell your friends.
Let us know.
We've had weirdly...
We had like a weird influx of people.
It looked like last week.
Yeah.
It looks like more people are finding our show and we're excited about that.

(51:44):
Yeah.
If your friends like Sex and the City, if your mom likes Sex and the City, send it over
to the podcast.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is a mom-friendly podcast.
This is a mom and auntie-friendly podcast.
Especially mom.
Yes.
Like we are a pro mom generally unless they're annoying.
Yeah.
But we are talking about some serious mom television right here.

(52:07):
So...
We really are.
Get them involved.
I don't think of a single mom who doesn't watch at least one of the shows we've talked
about so far.
Maybe Glee.
Yes.
Maybe Glee, yeah.
But even then, like I'm sure someone's mom.
Definitely.
Someone's mom is a Glee.
If your mom is a Glee.
Or maybe you're listening to this and you are a mom or a parent who watched Glee.
Because that's possible.
I mean, I'm about to be 30 this year and I watched Glee.

(52:29):
Yeah.
If you are a parent who was dragged to Glee Live, please DM us.
Yeah.
You may be entitled to compensation.
Yeah.
I want to hear about that experience.
All right.
Talk to y'all soon.
Thanks for listening.
Bye-bye.
Thank you.
Oh my God.
He's online.
Can he see me?
What the hell is she talking about?
Who's this?
It's like she's doing Angelina.

(52:50):
No, she died.
No, she died.
Well, yo, they'reeli that guy.
That's ito.

(53:15):
Yeah.