July 19, 2023 • 56 mins
In this episode of YKTE we discuss one of Trev's faves! Carrie gets dumped by Berger via Post-it note, Charlotte feels guilty for having a second wedding, and Miranda has a glow up in skinny jeans! We also talk a bit about our preferred sides of the bed and what they say about us.
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(00:00):
Hello. Hello.
(00:02):
So what, no fucking ziti now?
Don't make me laugh.
Hi, welcome to you know that episode. I'm Victoria.
And I'm Trev. We're two friends who watch too much TV.
We break down iconic episodes of good shows.
And bad.
And explain why we feel the way we do.
Today we're talking about season 6, episode 7 of Sex and the City, titled The Posted Always Sticks Twice, which aired on August 3rd, 2003.
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So yeah, the title is interesting. My question is, was that their slogan?
Maybe? I don't know where the reference comes from for the title.
Because usually there'll be something at least.
I feel like there has to be some kind of like,
something.
or slogan.
Yeah, like a bit to it.
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Always stick.
Oh.
Let's see.
So far the first thing that comes up is the episode of Sex and the City.
Yeah, maybe it's just them trying to be like cheeky or something.
I don't know. Yeah, because I couldn't find it. I can't find anything either.
(01:12):
But it's a weird title.
It's really weird.
But anyway.
Oh, I found it. I found it.
Oh, what is it?
The title is a reference to The Postman Always Rings Twice.
Oh, okay.
Okay, sure.
I don't know what that is, but that, at least there's something.
Because I'm like, oh, it's a movie from 1946. It's like a noir crime film.
(01:35):
Sure. Okay, cool.
I knew it was, it was too weird to just not, to not be a reference to anything.
Right. It had to be a reference to something because it's like,
what the hell does that even mean?
Yeah.
I think that would be a good slogan. Like,
Yeah.
Posted Always Sticks Twice.
Yeah, they're so strong.
Yeah, they're strong. They stick twice.
But this is one of my picks.
Right. And what is that?
(01:57):
I just, I feel like when you think of Sex in the City,
one of the most iconic pieces of imagery is Carrie in the back of the cop car.
Yes.
Putting the Post-It against the glass.
Yes.
That's literally like my Twitter banner.
Yeah, it's just so iconic.
Getting broken up with on the Post,
getting broken up with on the Post-It is,
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it's just one of those things that everyone knows happens in Sex in the City.
They may not know which boyfriend it is.
They may not even know which season it is,
but they know that Carrie gets broken up with and arrested in this episode.
It's just so iconic.
And, which is the main reason I picked it,
because I just, I also like Carrie when she's angry.
(02:41):
And she's so pissed off this whole episode.
It's like this kind of righteous anger.
And she's not wrong.
Oh, you're so busy. You're so busy.
And like the whole time she's pissed off, I'm like, yeah, you're right to be pissed off.
I would be pissed off if I were you.
Because sometimes Carrie's mad for no reason,
or she like makes a mountain out of a molehill.
But this whole episode, I'm like, yeah, you should be fucking ripping through the city.
(03:06):
Yeah.
And then I actually, as I was watching it again for the podcast and everything,
found a lot of other things I love in it that I forgot about.
I love Miranda in this episode.
Miranda's on one in this episode.
It's a nice, it's a much needed win for Miranda.
Yeah.
A lot of the times Miranda's like the Pratt fall slapstick,
(03:28):
like she's the one who gets the short end of the deal.
This episode made me really realize something.
And I wonder if you, if you can guess what it is that I'm gonna say.
But I had a realization.
And is it that Charlotte is the most beautiful one?
No, but it is about Charlotte.
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Oh, what is it?
Charlotte's actually my least favorite more than Miranda.
Really?
I think it was Miranda in this episode made me really realize that it's actually Charlotte.
I think that's fair.
I just, in sufferable, I can't stand her.
I'm glad that Miranda really shines in this episode.
We see her get some confidence back and really have a good time.
(04:13):
Miranda's actually funny.
She's funny.
Not like her saving grace.
Charlotte is not funny.
She is not a fun person to be around.
She has no sense of humor.
She's always, she's eternally and optimist and that can be very frustrating on a day like this.
Yeah.
When you're going through something really shitty and you just need someone to commiserate.
I will say, I think Charlotte is funny in a way that a lot of people are funny where they don't mean to be.
(04:36):
She's like a nitwit type of thing.
Yes, which is why I like her.
She's like Rose on Golden Girls.
Yeah, like she's not going, she's not making a joke, but she's going to make you laugh anyway.
Yeah, because this shit that she says is just so like incorrect.
Yeah.
But I also, one of my favorite parts of this episode on this free watch was I really liked the conversation her and Carrie have in the bar at the end.
(05:00):
Oh, really?
I hate that conversation.
I feel like it's so tone deaf.
Well, I, I like, I, because I understood where Charlotte was coming from where she's like, well, I did the whole big thing already.
I, it feels like it's not my place to do it again.
Like I already had the big, perfect wedding, you know, and Carrie's kind of like celebrate your love however you want to.
(05:22):
If that's by having a big wedding, do the big wedding.
And I think that's solid advice because I can understand being like in your own head about the situation, especially when you're such a yuppie like Charlotte is having been divorced, getting married again.
Maybe I'm just not nice enough or maybe I've been like in Carrie's situation to realize like, or to feel personally, this is just how I would interpret that conversation.
(05:50):
Like I think Carrie handled it better than I would have. I probably would have like snapped and would have been like, how can you like go on and on about, oh, I feel so bad.
I have a second wedding and this huge diamond ring.
I shouldn't have a huge diamond ring, but I do and blah, blah, like girl, no one's throwing you a pity party.
Like you fell in love twice with two great men.
(06:12):
Yeah.
You have a diamond ring on your finger.
You're going to have a fucking huge wedding.
Your first guy was a doctor.
Your second guy's a lawyer.
Like shut up.
You happy engaged person.
Just shut up.
I do think.
I'm like this girl who went through a breakup.
Be miserable.
I do think you also give your friends a little bit more leeway though.
Then you do like fictional characters and things like that.
I feel like in a situation you would be like, hey, not the time or place like, because Carrie does that in the beginning.
(06:39):
Yeah, she does.
Carrie.
She went a little bit light on the.
Yeah.
Like Carrie gives it to her in the beginning, especially the part where she says paper beats rock.
Makes me laugh out fucking loud.
I laughed out loud at that.
I did.
So I think after that, Carrie's like, this is my friend.
She's obviously like, she's overthinking this.
Let me just put her, let me calm her down.
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I know, but just don't you find that annoying that she needs to be baby.
Oh my God.
Of course.
She's so annoying.
Having like the worst day of her fucking life and Charlotte is making about her.
It just frustrated.
The weird part for me in watching this episode again is that I'm most frustrated with Samantha.
Because of her situation with Smith.
Yes.
I loved Samantha and this one.
(07:23):
I was like, yes, this is why I love a Sagittarius around me.
My best friend of like almost 20 years is a Sagittarius and she is the most down ass person.
She's always ready for the picture.
Well, no, no, no.
I totally love that.
I love that she's like, yeah, we should get high.
I got us weed.
My issue is that the whole thing with Smith where she's like, I don't want to be your girlfriend.
(07:46):
It's a you can't have your cake and eat it to situation.
And I think she realizes that at the end, which is why eventually they get in a relationship.
Yeah, but I'm like, you know that you care about him.
Like, you know that you're not completely at at odds with your feelings.
Yeah, you have invested a lot of time and energy and money into this man.
Like outside of work.
(08:09):
So like, why I and of course the way TV works is you have to see like she needs growth.
Yeah, exactly.
This is her learning moment.
Totally.
I don't think I'm going to care.
And she sees him say that on TV and she cares and then realizing that she cares.
But I'm just like, oh, come on, you're smarter than that.
You know, especially given her history with like Maria and Richard and everything like that.
(08:33):
I think she was in denial about it.
Yeah, totally.
Back to the old Samantha instead of let herself be some kind of evolved Samantha that would be okay with a relationship.
Yeah, that's there eventually, which we appreciate.
Absolutely.
But one thing I will say about Samantha and this one that I was like definitely noticing.
I really enjoyed the fact that she didn't make him feel bad for saying what he said.
(08:57):
No, not at all.
He listened exactly what she said and said it word for word.
And when she got on the phone with him and said, did you watch me?
How'd I do?
And she's like, yep, you were perfect.
You said exactly what I told you.
Yes, because it's I don't go through it.
And I think an unhealthy person would have been like, totally.
You said that it wasn't special because she realizes it was her decision.
Yeah, he would have gone up there and said, oh, this I have this amazing girlfriend.
(09:21):
Yeah, so I totally agree with you there because like at the end of the day, she handled it right for how she wanted it to be.
Yeah, but I'm just like, oh, come on, Samantha, I know that you know, it's self harm.
It's not like harming the other person.
Like she's not a toxic person, but to herself, she limits her own growth and ability to like I want 100% agree.
(09:44):
And I just I want her and eventually she realizes that.
So it's like it's a moot point.
But yeah, it just made me a little sad because I was like, no, like, I don't want you to be sad.
You're my fate. You're my girl.
Yeah, let yourself have love.
But it is a good it is a good scene and it is a good storyline in this episode because that it is like starting point for sure.
Totally.
(10:05):
And yeah, I just I love this episode.
I feel like everyone has a really interesting little side plot.
I feel like they all get pretty equal time to obviously carry.
Carrie has the most because she's the main character.
But she's going through something.
She's going through it.
But everyone like they get that each get their little moment.
(10:26):
Let's start from the beginning.
Yes, and kind of work our way down.
So obviously, Carrie has just been broken up with she's pissed off at the world.
Matt is angry at everybody who breeds near her.
Yes, she looks hideous.
I said the same thing.
She looks so especially going from Charlotte in that first opening scene, who's like the most beautiful Park Avenue stunning outfit, stunning face.
(10:57):
So well rested, you can tell.
And then it cuts to Carrie like arguing with someone on the street screaming at someone on the street in this rancid outfit.
It's shocked me to my core to not see a cigarette hanging out of her mouth or between her eyes.
Yes, this was a time for her to smoke.
I 100% agree.
But I will say walking pissed off in New York hits so different.
(11:21):
Oh my God.
Yes, I fucking love it because and also the attitude match like you're in a pissed off mood.
There's somebody on that street who's more twice as pissed off as you and when y'all encounter each other, it's just fuck you up yours motherfucker.
Which is what you need.
Yeah, you need it.
You just need to yell and get it off your chest.
It feels good.
It's cathartic.
You almost are like you're looking for someone to give you a problem.
(11:44):
Yeah, you kind of want somebody to like mess with you a little bit.
Yeah, so then you can get it out of your system.
New York is the perfect place to be a pissed off person.
I've been there in my life.
Same.
An angry point of my life and I love it.
I feel like having a bad day in New York and like making it somebody else's problem is a rite of passage.
(12:05):
It literally, I would highly recommend to anybody in the world who's going through any kind of breakup or a miserable situation, get your ass to New York on the next flight out.
And just stomp.
Yeah, stomp around.
And I, I love how blunt Carrie is at this brunch.
(12:27):
I love it too.
You know what, but it sucks so bad when someone has good news and you're in a shitty mood.
Well, funny you mentioned that because I was watching a different sex in the city episode the other day because I've just been watching random ones now.
And it's the one where Miranda finds out she's pregnant and it's the same day, same episode where Charlotte keeps not getting pregnant.
(12:50):
Yeah.
No matter how much like IVF and everything they try.
Yeah.
So it's just like classic.
And the Miranda's like complaining about it and Charlotte's like, how dare you complain about that?
Well, Miranda's saying she's going to get an abortion.
So Charlotte is like, how could you?
Yeah.
And it's just like she's taking it personal, but it's like classic brunch.
One of them has good news.
(13:11):
One of them has bad news, but it's so, it's so much fun to watch.
And Charlotte's ring is so large.
It's so beautiful, but it's so even more fabulous than your first one.
Oh, it and Charlotte's face is so funny when she says that.
Yeah, she was shook to her core when Samantha said that.
Carrie just goes, Oh, burger broke up with me on a post-it.
(13:34):
And then Samantha reads it out loud and her next line is so funny.
The motherfuckers concise.
It's so fucking funny.
This whole episode, I was like, I was laughing out loud.
I was giggling.
I was talking to myself.
Yes, me too.
This episode had a lot of one liners.
Yeah.
Famous iconic ones.
I also love that Carrie was planning to break up with burger anyway.
(13:57):
And she's still so mad that he broke up with her first.
I think that's what she's really mad about.
Yeah.
She is.
You can totally tell that's why she's mad.
And then because he did it first.
The throwaway line of Miranda saying that someone's doorman broke up with her once.
Miranda is pathetic with that.
Pathetic.
Why would you say that?
I was listening to another podcast and they were talking about how they listen to an interview with Cynthia Nixon.
(14:23):
Where it was kind of like fighting back at the critiques of Miranda and just like that.
Oh.
And she was like, Miranda's always been pathetic.
She's always been the punchline.
Yeah.
Like remember when she was flirting with the guy through her window and he was flirting with the guy above her?
Yeah.
Like she's always kind of been...
Oh my God, she thought he was leaving at home.
(14:44):
Yeah.
Or like a moment like this where she's like, I got broken up with by a doorman or the sandwich guy.
Or having to call all her old partners with Chlamydia News.
That's what I'm saying.
She is literally George Costanza.
Yeah, she's pathetic.
Which is so...
So it's again, it's so nice to see her in this episode like...
Have a win.
It's just like the episode of Sign Fall where George becomes smart for like an episode.
(15:07):
Yeah.
And they're like, okay George, just follow the opposite instinct.
Whatever instinct you have, just do the complete opposite.
And he's like, okay, let me try it.
So he walks up to this gorgeous woman at the bar and he's like, hi, my name is George and I'm unemployed and I live with my parents.
And she's like, hi, I'm Victoria.
Nice to meet you.
And she's like obsessed with him and then in that same episode, Elaine becomes really stupid.
(15:29):
Like, really dumb, dumber than a doorknob.
And it's so funny, but it just highlights like how nice it is when the stupid like corky character gets a break.
Yes.
And it makes everything so much funnier.
Yeah, it's funny.
And even at the end, like in the very last scene when Miranda does get kind of knocked down a peg.
(15:51):
Because they can't let her have more than an episode.
It's even funnier then.
It is.
It's like the punchline is perfect.
But yeah, I,
This is a good episode.
I really enjoyed it.
It's so good.
And like, I even have a note here that like, Charlotte is really trying to make Carrie feel better.
But it is annoying the level of optimist that she's being of just like, well, everything happens for a reason.
(16:14):
If I didn't do this and this wouldn't happen to me, the dead, the dead, the dead.
And it's like, girl, read the room.
But I think again, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
I just, my note is literally just Charlotte shut up.
Stop saying nice stuff.
Yeah.
And then we get this is a moment where I would have literally asked to only meet with Miranda or Sam.
Yeah.
I would have been like you two meet me.
(16:35):
Well, I will say, I do think Charlotte wouldn't have been as annoying if she hadn't just gotten engaged.
She still would have been annoying.
No, because remember when she wasn't engaged and Carrie and big broke up and she was like, Carrie, don't lose hope.
Like you guys are going to get back together.
Like she just gives terrible advice.
She's just, I'm in an anti-Charlotte mood.
See, I'm also just like, I'm so colored by and just like that where Charlotte is literally my favorite character.
(17:01):
Oh, okay.
And that makes complete sense because I'm still not cut up.
And I just think she's so funny and she just like nothing.
No one makes me laugh harder in that show than her.
Really?
Yeah.
I love even on season one.
Even bizarre.
Season one, I was like, Charlotte is the queen.
What?
Like Charlotte, like getting her period to like, I don't like at the painting thing.
(17:23):
I was like, she's so funny.
She just wants to be a good mom.
She's doing her best.
So I'm like team Charlotte, but I do think compared to Miranda and Samantha, she is like the nice, she's the, she's not the tough love parent with her friends.
She's always good cop.
Which I think is important because I mean, if it's always Miranda or if it's always Samantha, like, it's just gonna be, it's gonna be almost too negative at some, at some points.
(17:53):
Like we need a little bit of the-
I feel like Samantha's enough levity.
Yeah.
She makes a joke out of everything.
That's, that's how I need it to be handled.
But I think, any group, I think needs someone who's a little too earnest.
That's true.
I think that need-
Who would it be on Grey's Anatomy?
Who's, Lexi?
Lexi, exactly.
Or George.
And George.
And George.
(18:14):
You know, it's like you need that-
Actually not April, but like Arizona maybe.
I would say George, Arizona, Lexi.
Lexi, 100% is the most optimistic.
Yeah, you need that kind of like-
Yeah.
Because you have the one to balance everybody else out.
You need that.
Or else it's just, it becomes not fun when everyone's kind of just sarcastic and not taking it seriously and kind of just like defeatist.
(18:39):
Like if it was just Miranda, Samantha and Carrie, it would be just like, oh, it's just like they're just bitching all the time.
Which is fun, but I think to, I think it needs the balance of Charlotte, which is why I think I've come to appreciate her so much more in my, as I've gotten older.
Interesting.
But I do, she is annoying in this episode.
(19:00):
Yeah.
I can admit that.
Maybe it's just, maybe I'm just finding myself really annoyed with her for this episode.
It wasn't as bad before, but on this one I'm literally like, okay, change the order.
Yeah, she's also so honeymoon period.
Like nothing can tell her otherwise.
Which I think is even why I appreciate the scene at the end more when she does kind of second guess everything.
And kind of is this like, she gets a little defeated.
(19:24):
She gets a little like, well, I shouldn't do this because I did it the first time and it didn't work out in all this.
And she's so in her head.
So it's nice to see Carrie like snap her out of it and then Charlotte goes off with the Bachelorettes.
Yes.
And like, gets sort of this like rejuvenation from it.
Agreed.
And so I like the Charlotte storyline throughout the episode.
(19:46):
But we cut to Carrie and Samantha on a walk and talk.
Their outfits are fucking disgusting.
They're disgusting.
Samantha in the chartreuse colored shirt.
What the fuck are they wearing?
It's, it's, it is disastrous.
It was very bad.
And then Bernie was sitting next to me while I watched this one and she goes, it's crazy to me that Samantha's outfit is back in style.
(20:11):
And I didn't know what to say.
I, I don't like that.
I don't like that outfit at all.
Yeah, I don't like the outfit.
I don't like that.
I don't, it's too much.
Yeah.
Especially the bucket hat in the movie color.
And then it's like the, because she was wearing like blue bright green jeans, blue pants, like bright blue pants, like fluorescent blue.
And then a hot pink bag.
(20:33):
And then a bucket hat.
A bucket hat in like her outfit at the bar too is awful.
I didn't care for the bar outfit, especially.
I don't like pin straight hair.
No, me either.
And I don't like it on any of these women.
Me either.
Miranda's hair I loved in the bar.
Me too.
When she had the little swoopies.
Yeah.
She looked good.
And I mean, I have a note later on.
(20:55):
Charlotte in the bar.
She looked so beautiful.
She has that like insanely straight hair where it's just like perfectly, perfectly coiffed and parted.
You know what, when someone is too gorgeous though, sometimes it gives plain Jane.
Well, yeah, she definitely gives plain Jane.
She's a little way too beautiful.
Sometimes she really gives plain Jane.
(21:16):
You need a little ugliness, not too much.
No, a little edge.
You need a little ugliness to give you an edge.
I think Carrie has that.
Yeah.
Some people think that Sarah Jessica Parker is ugly.
I personally don't feel that way.
I know.
So we're just trying to reinforce that we are, we love her and we think she's so beautiful.
We love her and we don't think she's ugly.
You guys are fucking wrong.
Yeah.
Anyone who disagrees with that is out of their mind.
(21:37):
Like I don't, I don't see what you see.
But also Charlotte's top that like bedazzled, like, like, I don't, yeah, I guess, but it's just like so stunning.
Oh my God.
I was like, she looks so beautiful.
I'm like, I was scared a little bit, but they all look great in that scene.
Actually, I hate Carrie's outfit.
(21:58):
I don't even remember Carrie's outfit.
So yeah, I must have not been.
It's like a weird, like, silky, like hoodie, but there's no sleeves.
Uh huh.
Because she has her hood up when she gets caught by the cops.
Oh, you're talking about that one.
Yeah.
No, that's like a romper.
Is it?
A romper?
Hooded romper.
(22:19):
Oh, I hate that.
With an open back.
Yeah.
And a black bra is hanging out.
It's just like, why would she even be wearing a bra with that?
Some people, well, okay.
And this is where we get into the territory of 2000s fashion.
I was waiting for this to come up because like.
Nowadays, you just wouldn't wear a bra.
Nowadays, you just would go bra-less.
Yeah.
People nowadays have much more nipple confidence.
(22:40):
Yes.
Or you could even wear little pasties.
You could wear pasties if you don't have nipple confidence.
I think the issue is in the 2000s and early 90s even, it was actually fashionable for your bra to hang out.
That's why they started making bras in like different patterns and colors.
Yeah.
And it's like neutral white and black.
Because like, people would let them hang out of shirts.
(23:02):
People would wear them under sheer shirts and it would be like a second accessory.
She does that in the beginning.
Yes.
That's wild to me.
Kerry always does a black bra.
Yeah.
She does like black bra.
And then I'm like, girl, you're wearing a halter tank top and I can see your bra straps.
How does that not bother you?
But then there's sometimes when she's wearing like the slinkiest dress you can ever imagine.
(23:27):
And there's no bra.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
That's when she looks her chicest.
Like the episode when she knocks on the glass.
Yes.
And she's wearing that like gray skin tight dress.
She has never looked better.
She has never looked better.
That is, I genuinely think that and the newspaper dress are the two most beautiful moments she has in the whole show.
(23:48):
I agree.
And I also love her white Dior.
Yes.
The huge fire.
Oh, yes.
And I'm not generally someone who likes when she does the big florals.
I think it's a little tacky, but that was Gorgina.
I love the gold accenting on that dress.
It's so beautiful.
Okay.
So then they're doing a walk and talk and Samantha's like, I'm going to take you to bed.
(24:12):
Kerry's like, I'm not that often.
And I have a couple of bisexual Samantha moments in this episode.
Also, I love Samantha's planner.
I love it.
I love a planner.
Me too.
I have, do you use a planner in your day to day?
I do at work.
I don't anymore.
I did at my old job, but now my new job, I just leave post it notes everywhere.
(24:33):
I do that too, but it started to get really chaotic because I would end my day with like thousands of them on my desk and computer.
So I started to have to switch back to a planner and I love it.
That makes sense though.
I have at most like two or three because it's more like, oh, by the end of the week, I need to do this.
Like it's stuff like that.
It never piles up that bad.
(24:54):
And my job, it's a pretty like rigid schedule for the stuff that I do.
Okay.
So I never need more than that, but I love a planner.
I think they're just like, they feel so chic.
They're so fun to have.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll add that to my list.
Thank you so much.
It's just nice.
I love it to do lists.
I love a planner.
I love it.
Yeah.
Nothing in my life would ever get done without one, by the way.
(25:16):
No, I agree.
I feel the same exact way.
Okay.
So they decided to go to bed that night, the club.
And Miranda calls Carrie and she's like, I don't want to go out.
Like I'm a mom, blah, blah, blah.
And Carrie's like, you're going no excuses.
Yeah.
She uses the, the, the post it as a trump card.
(25:39):
Post it as an excuse.
She's like, you will not get away from this.
And we also see Samantha and Smith talking about his appearance on TRL that night on
MTV and she's like, don't tell anybody that I'm your girlfriend.
Just say that you're single and still looking for someone special.
And he's like, okay.
Yeah.
(26:00):
And it's really also them talking about TRL made me feel so old.
I was going to ask, do you remember TRL or was that like a little bit before you?
Oh no, I, so my uncles are not much older than me.
They're like 10 and 13 years older.
So when I was little, they were in their teens.
So I would watch TRL with them all the time.
(26:23):
Cute.
So I remember very like vividly watching like TLC and like all every, everyone who was on
there, specifically in the early 2000s, when it was Lala Anthony hosting, who's the host
in this episode?
I miss TRL.
Me too.
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It was so important to culture like genuinely.
I really used to watch that with my aunt and we used to watch like all the time.
Yeah.
It was such a integral thing to culture.
Like I, we needed it.
I think, I think that's another, there's such a lack of things like it now.
(27:08):
Yeah.
So everyone, it feels like there's not, it doesn't feel like there's as much monoculture
anymore.
The closest thing I can think of to TRL.
This is going to, this may offend some people.
The only thing that's on TV nowadays or just existing in the world nowadays, other, that's
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similar to TRL is the, the movie thing that plays when you go to the movie theater with
Maria Menoso.
I, no, I agree.
I think you're, I think that is so spot on.
That is the only thing that's even remotely close to TRL.
I agree.
And it's like, that's so crazy to think about when you used to just be able to watch it
in your house.
(27:50):
Yeah.
It was, no, it wasn't even just like, oh, I get to watch this.
It was like, I have to watch it.
It was appointment television.
Yeah.
It was appointment television.
And you got like, you saw the coolest new music videos, all the coolest new artists.
Like, and they used to like give you hot scoops on like what was happening in there.
Yeah.
And it was right in Times Square.
Oh my God.
So she brings back TRL.
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Well, they tried.
And it failed.
Yeah.
And in 2017, they brought it back.
But it's just like the culture is so different now with social media and everything.
Everything's on social media.
It's like, well, I knew that fact like two hours ago.
Exactly.
It's like, well, I know the new song is coming out because I followed them and I saw Pop Crave.
Honestly, Pop Crave and the, the Twitter accounts like that are the closest thing we have to
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TRL now.
Yeah.
That's like contemporary TRL.
Yeah.
TRL because it's like, that's who's tweeting about the new movie that's coming out or the
new pop song or who's dating who, you know, that's kind of crazy to think about.
But, um, Smith is sexy in a way that is so specific to a time.
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Smith is a nice guy, but he, he's a little, he's a little slow on the pickup.
Yeah.
He's not like the, like, he's kind of like the sexy dumb guy.
Yeah.
He's a himbo.
Yeah.
But he's like, he's just sweet and he's so hot and it's fucking insane.
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He's harmless.
Yeah.
He's harmless.
And he's like the perfect partner for Samantha at this point, I feel like, because he genuinely
has like no ulterior motives or no like.
He couldn't even think of an ulterior motive.
And I don't want to, I want it.
What I want to say is like, it could come off as rude, but he doesn't have the kind of
like he has ambition, but he doesn't have like a blood lust.
Like he's not a cold, like.
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Wait, why would that come across as rude?
It's just a fact.
Because.
He's not interested in fame.
Samantha's the one that makes him what he is.
Yeah.
It's just like, well, I think sometimes ambition can be seen as like a negative, which I think
he is ambitious, but I think it's like not enough to be a bad guy.
Yeah.
It's where Samantha kind of balances him out like that.
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Samantha does have ulterior motives.
Like he looks at something and he's like, yeah, I don't know.
These people want to take a picture of me or something like that.
And she's like, okay, great.
We're going to milk it for millions.
Yeah.
He's very rose colored glasses.
Yeah.
And I mean, the absolute hunk photo is so iconic.
That's another iconic thing.
This is a very, he is a very attractive man.
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It makes complete sense that this would be Samantha's longest relationship as a guy who's
just genuinely innocent, sweet, kind of shy, would never want to hurt her.
Yeah.
Like doesn't try too hard.
Yes.
He just is happy to be with her at the end of the day.
It doesn't matter.
And she tells him, say you're single.
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And he's like, okay.
Yeah.
And he doesn't fight with her.
And then we see Charlotte like holding her humongous honking ring up next to every single
dress that she owns.
And Bernie was like, that's you because last night I was getting ready for my anniversary
dinner.
I literally said to Bernie, my engagement ring is the ultimate accessory.
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It's true.
It should be.
I mean, it's 14 carat white gold and a beautiful diamond and a beautiful diamond.
Again, I'm so excited to go.
I love engagement.
I love it.
I love that the pageantry.
We are we're milking it to Bernie's school.
Yeah.
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We're like, you guys have to tell everybody that you just got engaged in Italy.
At the restaurant, we were like, they were like, are you celebrating anything in particular?
And we were like, we're celebrating our anniversary, but also our engagement.
And I was like showing them my ring and everything.
And we got like free desserts, free.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah.
Like it was in a $50 gift card to come back.
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Oh my God.
Although we were kind of thinking maybe they give us this gift card because the restaurant's
like on the verge of like bankruptcy or something, but we have no idea if that's why or not.
Which is like, I mean, either way, take it and use it.
Also, I understand where what's it called Miranda's coming from with the night out.
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Yeah.
She feels not like she doesn't feel hot.
She doesn't feel hot.
And going out when you don't feel hot is like a death sentence.
It really is.
You don't want to.
You can't.
It is just a losing battle.
You're like, I can't rally.
I simply can't.
And then like gospel truth of good pair of jeans will save your life.
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Sometimes all you can do is put on a pair of jeans.
Sometimes you can't even look at the other stuff.
No.
It just has to be a pair of jeans.
You just need the right denim to hug you, right?
Yeah.
And you will feel like a million dollars.
And she looks so good.
The wrist wrap was not my favorite accessory.
Oh, the belt I'm not in love with, the bag I'm not in love with.
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I wish her top was a little better, but the jeans, ooh.
So really what we're saying is she didn't look that great.
She looks beautiful in the face.
Her outfit was boring, but she looked happy and confident.
That's true.
Which is kind of the most important thing when you're going out.
Yeah.
Confidence attracts good energy.
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I feel.
I agree.
But it's also just so fun seeing them all go out.
I agree.
I love when they have night out.
It's just so fun.
And like Charlotte is starting to feel like weird about her ring and the engagement and everything.
And Samantha's basically like, that ring deserves a parade.
A ring that big deserves a parade.
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And I agree.
Sometimes, tell me if you picked up on this.
Like I love Kim Katral.
She's an amazing actress.
She's arguably the best one out of all of them.
Sometimes she lays it on a little thick.
Yeah.
Like sometimes the Samantha voice is a bit much.
No, I agree.
And like in this moment at the bar, I mean not at the bar at the club, like she was like going.
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She lays it on.
Yeah, it was way too thick during this.
Like.
Like you know what she's like, honey.
She's like, girl, oh my God.
She's like, oh girl.
Yeah.
Like it's like an affect.
It's like a drag queen affect voice.
Yeah, it was way too thick.
She's like, girl, get yours.
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Yeah.
Like it's so, it's so hammy.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
And it feels like a sketch.
It's funny.
And it makes me smile.
It makes me laugh sometimes.
But other times I'm like, wow, okay.
She went really happy with the voice.
Yeah, she's like, oh, she was feeling it that day.
Yeah.
Um.
We're so bitchy.
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It's true, but it's true.
She does it.
It's like, that's like everyone who does a impression of her does that.
Yeah, yeah.
You can't help it.
That's like her iconic thing.
Yeah.
And oh, also at bed, I love that all the servers and like wait staff and everything are wearing
pajamas.
I love that.
I wish this was real.
I love it.
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Is this a real concept for a bar?
I don't know.
I like it though.
I wish it was.
I mean, I know there are some places that they've had on Sex and the City that actually were
real places.
Yeah.
Um, but not all of them.
So, no, but it's such a fun idea and it's like so silly.
All the beds are like these cool see-through plastic.
I kind of love it.
I do too.
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It's really like, it's so stupid in a way that I like, I love.
Yeah.
And Miranda goes to the bathroom.
She gets separated from the girlies.
She has a funny one liner again.
She's like, if I knew it would be like this, I would have brought my bike guard.
You can also tell when they give Miranda like, when she's supposed to be more confident
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because her jokes come off less snarky and more like, ooh.
Yeah.
And like also she's funnier and more like something.
She's genuinely funnier.
Yeah, she is.
When she's having a good time, she's so much more entertaining.
Another line that reminds me of this is when she's like, as opposed to his fucking bitch,
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his fucking whore.
Yeah.
When she, you can-
You know what I'm trying to say, right?
Yeah.
You can hear that, you can hear in the line delivery that she's smiling.
Yeah.
Or that she's like, knows she's being funny versus-
Yes.
Sometimes she's just being snarky and sarcastic and you're like, okay.
And it's funny by chance.
Yeah.
She's in a bad mood, but that was kind of funny.
But no, I 100% agree.
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It's all in the delivery and the attitude behind it.
But yeah, you can- Cynthia Nixon's an actress when you can hear her smile in a line.
Yeah.
And it's fun.
It's fun to watch and listen to.
And she gets bumped into some other guy's bed.
And he like starts flirting with her and he reminded me of Skipper.
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He did remind me of Skipper too.
He literally looks exactly like him.
Like the curly hair.
Like the hair texture.
Yeah.
And it was very, he was really cute and like really a good flirt.
Why did Miranda just like get up and leave though?
Why didn't she be like-
I think it's one of those things where it's kind of like sometimes you don't need it to
go anywhere, but you just needed it right then.
(37:21):
Yeah.
You just needed to like flirt a little bit and have fun, but you don't want it to go
anywhere.
Yeah.
You needed to pick me up to be like, I still got it.
Yeah.
And it was nice to see her get that and with like a, seems like a sweetie guy.
And she looks like she's just having the exact night she needed.
Yes.
Um, Bernie was sitting with me and she said that the host looked like Jennifer Beals.
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What are your thoughts?
Oh, I don't remember.
I don't remember the host at all.
I honestly, I missed her.
Like when I looked up at the screen, she had already gone.
So I could not verify.
Yeah.
But I wanted to.
Um, she didn't stick around in my mind.
So I can't disagree or agree.
But I trust Bernie.
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I agree.
Oh, no, actually, I don't think I do.
One time we were looking at a magazine or we were watching something and fucking it
was a picture of Betsy Johnson and she goes, Oh wow, whatever happened to Cindy Loper.
Okay.
Don't act like Betsy Johnson doesn't give crazy Cindy Loper energy.
(38:29):
Um, that is not the only time one time we were looking at a magazine.
And it was a picture of fucking Julia Roberts and she goes, is that Sarah Jessica Parker?
Okay.
That one I understand less.
I can still get it.
I still get the vibe.
She is so confused.
There's many, many, many times where this has happened.
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I don't think I trust what she said.
I think the Julia Roberts one is the least.
I agree with the least, but I, I agree with the rest.
Y'all are so wrong for that.
I'm with Bernie.
Wow.
I feel the burn.
Um, okay.
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Another question for you.
When Miranda makes the joke about move over, that's my side of the bed.
Are you picky about your side of the bed?
Yes.
I have my side of the bed and Tony has their side of the bed.
Me too.
I'm picky about mine too.
I think, I think it's crazy if people don't.
What does it mean?
What does your side of the bed mean?
Like what, I wonder if it's like sort of like left brain, right brain.
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I wonder if it's like, if you like to sleep on the right side of the bed, you're this.
And if you sleep on the left side of the bed, you're this.
I will say, I don't think I have a specific side I always choose.
It depends on the bed and the situation.
Yeah.
Like my, before Tony moved in, it was kind of, I just, I mean, I also had, it was a queen-size
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bed alone.
So I kind of just slept in the middle.
Um, but I also had a fucking 70 pound dog.
So things weren't perfect.
But I, I think I used to gravitate towards the left side.
If I'm thinking, if I'm looking at it.
Okay.
If we're looking at the bed.
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Yeah.
Standing at the end, at the end of the bed.
Yeah.
Usually sleep on the left.
I sleep, now I sleep on the left.
I used to just sleep in the middle when it was just me.
But in the past, it's kind of just been like, whatever.
I, in our current situation, I picked the right side or the side I'm on because it was
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the one closer to the door.
And I didn't want to be closer to the wall.
I used, in our old apartment, I chose the right side because, okay.
I know, on the, on our old apartment, I chose the left side because we only had one bedside
table and I needed somewhere to put my glasses.
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Yeah.
I'm also like, if there's only access to one bedside table, I have that access.
And now we have our house and we both have a bedside table, but I'm still on the left
because I got used to sleeping on the left.
And now I'm on the left.
I think it's like, I think if we moved or moved the bed or had a different bed or something
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like that, it would maybe reset.
Interesting.
But I don't know either because now we've gone into the rhythm.
Mine carries over into like hotels.
Like when we go into a hotel, I want the left.
Yeah.
I'm sure it would be the same for us.
Yeah.
Because when we visited Tony's sister, I slept on the same side.
So I guess now we're kind of in that like groove of it.
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But before this, I was, I've never been, I've never been picky.
Like if Tony was like, oh, let's switch, I would be like, okay.
So interesting.
But now we're both lefties.
Yeah.
Fascinating.
Let's see what I can do.
Weird.
Girl.
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Oh, those who sleep on the left believe that they are calmer than their partner in a crisis
and are more confident in general.
It is also reported that left side sleepers are believed to have a greater level of job
satisfaction than right-siders.
Left side sleepers may have something else going for them too.
That seems like a real reach.
(42:22):
These are reaching.
But I do, I like the calmer part because I think like in a crisis, I think I'm calmer.
But listen to this.
People who sleep on the right are believed to be grumpier and have a less positive outlook
on the world.
Have I been sleeping on the wrong side of the bed?
That's such a weird, that just feels so impossible to dictate or like.
(42:45):
That's research.
They've done research on it.
Interesting.
That's so crazy to me.
I am fascinated by this.
I want to know more.
Yeah, that's such a weird thing I've never actually thought about.
Wow.
Oh my God.
Right in.
What side of the bed do you sleep on?
Me?
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No, the listener.
Oh.
If you're out there.
Yeah, listeners, what side of the bed do you sleep on and describe yourself to us, please?
Carrie is a right side sleeper.
Really?
Yes, with Big in the hotel when they have the affair.
She's on the right side with Aiden.
She's on the right side when she dates the model.
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She's on the right side.
And when she's by herself, she's in the middle.
Yes, which is how I would operate.
Me too.
When I'm all alone, I sleep in the middle.
Miranda is also on the right side.
Yeah, she is.
I think Charlotte also is.
I wonder what Samantha is.
I don't think we ever see her like...
No, I've seen Charlotte on the left.
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Is she on the left?
Remember when she gives the guy the boxers, she's on the left side.
Okay.
So that actually makes sense because people on the left side wake up in a more positive mood,
calmer and feel more confident in general than people who sleep on the right side.
Interesting.
Huh.
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Okay, fascinating.
Well...
I am fascinated by this.
It is such a weird thing I've never in my life had a thought...
think about.
I guess my brain just works in a weird way.
I think...
I like that though.
Yeah, me too.
I always ask annoying questions.
I do incessant polling.
I think people get frustrated with me.
Sometimes I ask the most annoying questions.
(44:32):
Like, it'll be at the completely wrong time.
I just ignore you.
And I'll be like, what is your all-time favorite breakfast cereal?
And somebody's like, why would you even ask me that right now?
And I'm like, quickly tell me what it is.
See, I have the trait that I have that's similar but not the same that I know annoys people,
as I'll be like, okay, guess.
(44:53):
Yeah.
I want to make it a game.
Yeah, I love guessing games.
I do too!
It's so fun.
It is really fun.
It's so fun.
I do Detonio all the time where I'll be like, oh my God, guess this thing.
And Tilline will be like, oh, what is that?
I'm like, no, you have to guess.
You have three guesses.
Yeah.
I always make, like, my favorite games that I do of guessing is I like to do guess the
initials when I'm driving.
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Like, if I have to.
Ooh, okay.
Like, if we're driving somewhere really far, we do like guess the initials and it'll be
like, okay, what's the category?
Okay, celebrities.
Or it'll be like, female actresses or musicians.
And we have to do initials.
So like.
I like that.
Yeah.
And we always do.
And sometimes we'll be 20 questions too is another fun one that we always do.
Oh, I love a 20 questions.
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Yeah, I'm just, I don't know.
You and I are annoying in the same ways.
Yeah.
I'm guilty of incessant polling.
I'm constantly asking people to pick their favorites of stuff.
It really bothers people.
It's true.
What can you do?
Yeah, I like it.
Okay.
Moving on.
My personal opinion is that Carrie never should have spoken at bed.
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Like, no, she should not have.
No, she should not have gone and talked to those men.
She did not need to.
Like, I do like that she yelled at them.
Nothing good came of it.
No.
And like, other than the funny line when she was like, we have to go.
Yeah.
That made me laugh.
But I also was like, she doesn't owe these people anything.
(46:23):
She doesn't have to go talk to them.
She doesn't have to lie to them or tell them she was lying to them.
Like the whole scene was so unnecessary.
The worst advice ever given was Charlotte saying be honest and just go up to them and tell them that she was lying.
Yes, 100%.
She's the stupidest person on this planet.
Yeah, I fundamentally don't understand that advice.
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It's so stupid to me.
She's her brain's growth when she says that.
Yeah.
And then Carrie just goes off on those guys.
And she's right.
Everything she says is right.
But like, she doesn't need to say it.
And like, expects him to react like, girl, they're not going to react.
That's their friend.
Like, you're...
Yeah, that's their friend.
It's so...
It was so silly and unnecessary.
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She's doing way too much.
I would have just left.
Like, I love her anger, but it was completely awkward.
I literally would have...
I love how she like, forgets his name, but other than that...
I would have just waved at them and that been it.
Yeah, like, she basically proved the other guy's point when he was like, you guys just get really pissed off and become like, psychotic.
Like, she basically proved his point.
(47:30):
But you know what?
Sometimes you have to prove someone's point.
Sometimes you have to lose your shit.
I know, but it was not a good thing that she did that.
No.
You have...
I definitely fall into the thing of like, oh, you assumed something?
I'm going to double down now and it will be worse.
I mean, I get...
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Again, I get her anger.
She's totally valid.
I just don't think...
I don't think I would have said anything.
Yeah, this is not how I would have handled it.
Um...
So they leave.
They finally leave.
They pull Miranda away from her cute nice guy.
And I just remember...
This is the part where I remembered they were going to smoke weed in this episode.
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Also, like, they smell the weed.
They're trying to find it.
Why is Charlotte and Miranda acting like those men are free-basing cocaine?
They are acting like it's the biggest deal in the world.
Was it that big of a deal in the 90s?
I don't know.
I feel like...
I don't know.
It's just...
To me, I'm also like someone who's literally never been high.
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I just don't think weed is that big of a deal.
I guess in this day and age it isn't.
But back in those days, maybe it was.
I guess.
I mean, I don't know.
It's still just like so silly.
I also...
One thing that I was thinking about, and this is mostly at the end when eventually,
eventually, Swoiler, Samantha and Carrie are smoking, it's just shocking how...
They don't do drugs on this show.
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Yeah, like, they are always on the party scene.
You would...
These are the exact people...
And they never get high.
And it's like, it's not like it was like a...
A network show.
It was fucking HBO.
Right, like...
They could have showed Samantha doing a bump once.
Oh my God, yes.
Or even...
I can picture Carrie doing it too.
The closest we ever get is like, Samantha with the Viagra.
(49:24):
And, I mean, wait, there's another episode I'm thinking of.
Carrie is a bit of a stoner.
Remember she dates the stoner guy, the comic book owner?
Oh yeah.
The comic book guy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Carrie is a little bit of a stoner and I can see her getting into the party scene.
Like, I can see her doing coke too.
It's just so surprising we don't see as much of that.
It's like, it's New York in the 90s club scene.
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Club scene.
They're hanging out with models frequently.
And they're all, like, rich.
I feel like it gets talked about one time by, like, Stanford.
He's like...
Yeah.
He talks about a boyfriend of his or whatever.
Oh wait, Carrie walks in the bathroom and sees someone doing coke one time.
Remember?
No, when was that?
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And there's a girl doing coke and she's like, oh, do you want some?
And Carrie's like, um, no.
Oh yes, was it in the model or something like that?
Yeah, or something like that.
It was at a party or something.
But yeah, it's just something that, it's so funny that weed is so scandalous in this episode.
Yeah, I don't know.
They freak out.
I mean, Carrie gets written up.
It's so silly.
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Carrie gets written up.
Um, and then in the bar where they go to buy their weed, Samantha watches TRL and gets
sad because Smith tells the world that he's single.
And he's not seeing anyone special.
He's dating, but he's not seeing anyone special is what he says.
Which is, it's hard to hear.
He looks into the camera as he says it.
And I think that he was trying to say like, Samantha, I did what you said, but I think
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he was trying to send her a little message through the TV to be like,
I can definitely see that.
I think he was trying to say like, I don't, I don't agree with what I'm saying right now.
I'm just saying it because you told me to.
I, yeah.
And then Samantha makes out with that guy.
It's so stupid.
Like girl, it's so stupid.
(51:15):
And then they almost get beat up by the group of like Long Island women.
That part made me laugh.
Um, also, you know who one of the girls is?
Wait, she looks familiar.
I don't know the one on the left.
Her name is Orphie and she's in league.
She's probably a Paulette.
Legally blonde.
Yes, legally blonde lady.
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Yep.
I know.
Isn't that I literally was so gagged from Broadway.
You know, I've met her.
No.
That's amazing.
I met her at the Broadway flea market.
That is so cool.
The main woman looks kind of like a C tier Debbie Maze on.
I was just going to say that.
I was literally just going to say that.
Yep.
It's, I literally had to look it up.
I was like, is that Debbie Maze?
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No, it's not her.
And just like bad makeup.
But no, it's, it's crazy.
And I mean, that would have been so funny for her to be this like trashy woman from New York.
I know.
But yeah, it like gagged me.
I loved it.
And then, okay, so they finally go back outside after the girls chase them out and Samantha
reveals she had a, had a joint in her bra this entire time that she got from the bartender
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for slipping in the 20 and they start smoking and literally as soon as Samantha walks away
to take a call from Smith, a police pulls up as Kerry is like taking a drag on this
joint.
And she does this like Scooby Doo turnaround.
It's so silly.
It's so fucking funny.
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And she's holding, she's got the joint in her mouth.
And she just looks so silly and so dumb.
They are so stupid.
And she, okay, so he gets her in the back of the car and Miranda starts pleading with
the officer like, come on, like she, she didn't mean anything by it.
She had a bad day and she got broken up by a post it and he like doesn't believe her.
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So then Kerry puts the post it in the window, which is such an iconic scene.
It's so iconic.
And then he's like, fine, I'll write you up for smoking at a bar and they're like still
arguing with him.
And then he recites the post it back to her, which was so fucking funny.
So rude, so funny, so rude, especially when it's like, girl, he's cutting you a break.
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Shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
And then they all go to the, the restaurant, the cafe.
And they're like eating this huge Sunday.
And Samantha snarks at Kerry and she's like, stop bow guarding the split.
Yeah.
And then Miranda's jeans pop open.
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And Kerry laughs so hard and it's such like a good Sarah Jessica Parker like belly laugh.
Yeah.
I love her.
Like really, it is such a funny episode.
It's such a like good time episode.
It really is a good one.
I'm so like, I'm so glad I chose it.
And we like, I found so many more things in it than I, that I loved that I didn't remember.
(54:16):
Me too.
I was pleasantly surprised by how many funny things happened in this one.
Like laugh out loud in a way that I don't laugh at every sex in the city episode, especially
having seen them all so many times.
Yeah.
And sometimes you rewatch them and you end up watching the same ones and over and over.
And then once in a while you put on a completely random one and you're like, oh my God, that
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was such a good one.
Like fuck, that was good.
Yeah.
But next week is one of your choices.
And mind you, we only have two more episodes of sex in the city left.
Oh my God, we're almost done.
We're almost done with sex in the city.
Wow.
Oh, I know it feels weird.
It feels weird.
We haven't even talked about like what we might want to watch next.
I know, I have an idea which is one we've been talking about since the beginning.
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So I'll text you that after we're done.
No spoilers.
But I think it would be a good summer series to watch.
Interesting.
Okay, I can't wait to see what it is.
Yeah.
But yeah, next week is one of mine.
Hang on, I'm pulling it up.
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Oh my gosh, this is such a good one.
Samantha buys a vibrator and babysits Mark from her.
I'm very fucking excited to watch that one.
That is literally one of my all time favorite episodes of the week.
It's so insane.
Period, period.
It's just such a good episode.
I can't wait.
It's going to be a good time.
Feel free to watch ahead if you'd like to keep up.
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But until then, bye bye.
Until then, take care and we'll talk to you soon.
Yes.
Bye.
Bye.
Oh my god, he's online.
Can you see me?
What the hell is she talking about?
Who's this?
Starts to do Angelina please.
Wow, she died.
Hello. Hello.
(00:02):
So what, no fucking ziti now?
Don't make me laugh.
Hi, welcome to you know that episode. I'm Victoria.
And I'm Trev. We're two friends who watch too much TV.
We break down iconic episodes of good shows.
And bad.
And explain why we feel the way we do.
Today we're talking about season 6, episode 7 of Sex and the City, titled The Posted Always Sticks Twice, which aired on August 3rd, 2003.
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So yeah, the title is interesting. My question is, was that their slogan?
Maybe? I don't know where the reference comes from for the title.
Because usually there'll be something at least.
I feel like there has to be some kind of like,
something.
or slogan.
Yeah, like a bit to it.
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Always stick.
Oh.
Let's see.
So far the first thing that comes up is the episode of Sex and the City.
Yeah, maybe it's just them trying to be like cheeky or something.
I don't know. Yeah, because I couldn't find it. I can't find anything either.
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But it's a weird title.
It's really weird.
But anyway.
Oh, I found it. I found it.
Oh, what is it?
The title is a reference to The Postman Always Rings Twice.
Oh, okay.
Okay, sure.
I don't know what that is, but that, at least there's something.
Because I'm like, oh, it's a movie from 1946. It's like a noir crime film.
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Sure. Okay, cool.
I knew it was, it was too weird to just not, to not be a reference to anything.
Right. It had to be a reference to something because it's like,
what the hell does that even mean?
Yeah.
I think that would be a good slogan. Like,
Yeah.
Posted Always Sticks Twice.
Yeah, they're so strong.
Yeah, they're strong. They stick twice.
But this is one of my picks.
Right. And what is that?
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I just, I feel like when you think of Sex in the City,
one of the most iconic pieces of imagery is Carrie in the back of the cop car.
Yes.
Putting the Post-It against the glass.
Yes.
That's literally like my Twitter banner.
Yeah, it's just so iconic.
Getting broken up with on the Post,
getting broken up with on the Post-It is,
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it's just one of those things that everyone knows happens in Sex in the City.
They may not know which boyfriend it is.
They may not even know which season it is,
but they know that Carrie gets broken up with and arrested in this episode.
It's just so iconic.
And, which is the main reason I picked it,
because I just, I also like Carrie when she's angry.
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And she's so pissed off this whole episode.
It's like this kind of righteous anger.
And she's not wrong.
Oh, you're so busy. You're so busy.
And like the whole time she's pissed off, I'm like, yeah, you're right to be pissed off.
I would be pissed off if I were you.
Because sometimes Carrie's mad for no reason,
or she like makes a mountain out of a molehill.
But this whole episode, I'm like, yeah, you should be fucking ripping through the city.
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Yeah.
And then I actually, as I was watching it again for the podcast and everything,
found a lot of other things I love in it that I forgot about.
I love Miranda in this episode.
Miranda's on one in this episode.
It's a nice, it's a much needed win for Miranda.
Yeah.
A lot of the times Miranda's like the Pratt fall slapstick,
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like she's the one who gets the short end of the deal.
This episode made me really realize something.
And I wonder if you, if you can guess what it is that I'm gonna say.
But I had a realization.
And is it that Charlotte is the most beautiful one?
No, but it is about Charlotte.
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Oh, what is it?
Charlotte's actually my least favorite more than Miranda.
Really?
I think it was Miranda in this episode made me really realize that it's actually Charlotte.
I think that's fair.
I just, in sufferable, I can't stand her.
I'm glad that Miranda really shines in this episode.
We see her get some confidence back and really have a good time.
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Miranda's actually funny.
She's funny.
Not like her saving grace.
Charlotte is not funny.
She is not a fun person to be around.
She has no sense of humor.
She's always, she's eternally and optimist and that can be very frustrating on a day like this.
Yeah.
When you're going through something really shitty and you just need someone to commiserate.
I will say, I think Charlotte is funny in a way that a lot of people are funny where they don't mean to be.
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She's like a nitwit type of thing.
Yes, which is why I like her.
She's like Rose on Golden Girls.
Yeah, like she's not going, she's not making a joke, but she's going to make you laugh anyway.
Yeah, because this shit that she says is just so like incorrect.
Yeah.
But I also, one of my favorite parts of this episode on this free watch was I really liked the conversation her and Carrie have in the bar at the end.
(05:00):
Oh, really?
I hate that conversation.
I feel like it's so tone deaf.
Well, I, I like, I, because I understood where Charlotte was coming from where she's like, well, I did the whole big thing already.
I, it feels like it's not my place to do it again.
Like I already had the big, perfect wedding, you know, and Carrie's kind of like celebrate your love however you want to.
(05:22):
If that's by having a big wedding, do the big wedding.
And I think that's solid advice because I can understand being like in your own head about the situation, especially when you're such a yuppie like Charlotte is having been divorced, getting married again.
Maybe I'm just not nice enough or maybe I've been like in Carrie's situation to realize like, or to feel personally, this is just how I would interpret that conversation.
(05:50):
Like I think Carrie handled it better than I would have. I probably would have like snapped and would have been like, how can you like go on and on about, oh, I feel so bad.
I have a second wedding and this huge diamond ring.
I shouldn't have a huge diamond ring, but I do and blah, blah, like girl, no one's throwing you a pity party.
Like you fell in love twice with two great men.
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Yeah.
You have a diamond ring on your finger.
You're going to have a fucking huge wedding.
Your first guy was a doctor.
Your second guy's a lawyer.
Like shut up.
You happy engaged person.
Just shut up.
I do think.
I'm like this girl who went through a breakup.
Be miserable.
I do think you also give your friends a little bit more leeway though.
Then you do like fictional characters and things like that.
I feel like in a situation you would be like, hey, not the time or place like, because Carrie does that in the beginning.
(06:39):
Yeah, she does.
Carrie.
She went a little bit light on the.
Yeah.
Like Carrie gives it to her in the beginning, especially the part where she says paper beats rock.
Makes me laugh out fucking loud.
I laughed out loud at that.
I did.
So I think after that, Carrie's like, this is my friend.
She's obviously like, she's overthinking this.
Let me just put her, let me calm her down.
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I know, but just don't you find that annoying that she needs to be baby.
Oh my God.
Of course.
She's so annoying.
Having like the worst day of her fucking life and Charlotte is making about her.
It just frustrated.
The weird part for me in watching this episode again is that I'm most frustrated with Samantha.
Because of her situation with Smith.
Yes.
I loved Samantha and this one.
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I was like, yes, this is why I love a Sagittarius around me.
My best friend of like almost 20 years is a Sagittarius and she is the most down ass person.
She's always ready for the picture.
Well, no, no, no.
I totally love that.
I love that she's like, yeah, we should get high.
I got us weed.
My issue is that the whole thing with Smith where she's like, I don't want to be your girlfriend.
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It's a you can't have your cake and eat it to situation.
And I think she realizes that at the end, which is why eventually they get in a relationship.
Yeah, but I'm like, you know that you care about him.
Like, you know that you're not completely at at odds with your feelings.
Yeah, you have invested a lot of time and energy and money into this man.
Like outside of work.
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So like, why I and of course the way TV works is you have to see like she needs growth.
Yeah, exactly.
This is her learning moment.
Totally.
I don't think I'm going to care.
And she sees him say that on TV and she cares and then realizing that she cares.
But I'm just like, oh, come on, you're smarter than that.
You know, especially given her history with like Maria and Richard and everything like that.
(08:33):
I think she was in denial about it.
Yeah, totally.
Back to the old Samantha instead of let herself be some kind of evolved Samantha that would be okay with a relationship.
Yeah, that's there eventually, which we appreciate.
Absolutely.
But one thing I will say about Samantha and this one that I was like definitely noticing.
I really enjoyed the fact that she didn't make him feel bad for saying what he said.
(08:57):
No, not at all.
He listened exactly what she said and said it word for word.
And when she got on the phone with him and said, did you watch me?
How'd I do?
And she's like, yep, you were perfect.
You said exactly what I told you.
Yes, because it's I don't go through it.
And I think an unhealthy person would have been like, totally.
You said that it wasn't special because she realizes it was her decision.
Yeah, he would have gone up there and said, oh, this I have this amazing girlfriend.
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Yeah, so I totally agree with you there because like at the end of the day, she handled it right for how she wanted it to be.
Yeah, but I'm just like, oh, come on, Samantha, I know that you know, it's self harm.
It's not like harming the other person.
Like she's not a toxic person, but to herself, she limits her own growth and ability to like I want 100% agree.
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And I just I want her and eventually she realizes that.
So it's like it's a moot point.
But yeah, it just made me a little sad because I was like, no, like, I don't want you to be sad.
You're my fate. You're my girl.
Yeah, let yourself have love.
But it is a good it is a good scene and it is a good storyline in this episode because that it is like starting point for sure.
Totally.
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And yeah, I just I love this episode.
I feel like everyone has a really interesting little side plot.
I feel like they all get pretty equal time to obviously carry.
Carrie has the most because she's the main character.
But she's going through something.
She's going through it.
But everyone like they get that each get their little moment.
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Let's start from the beginning.
Yes, and kind of work our way down.
So obviously, Carrie has just been broken up with she's pissed off at the world.
Matt is angry at everybody who breeds near her.
Yes, she looks hideous.
I said the same thing.
She looks so especially going from Charlotte in that first opening scene, who's like the most beautiful Park Avenue stunning outfit, stunning face.
(10:57):
So well rested, you can tell.
And then it cuts to Carrie like arguing with someone on the street screaming at someone on the street in this rancid outfit.
It's shocked me to my core to not see a cigarette hanging out of her mouth or between her eyes.
Yes, this was a time for her to smoke.
I 100% agree.
But I will say walking pissed off in New York hits so different.
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Oh my God.
Yes, I fucking love it because and also the attitude match like you're in a pissed off mood.
There's somebody on that street who's more twice as pissed off as you and when y'all encounter each other, it's just fuck you up yours motherfucker.
Which is what you need.
Yeah, you need it.
You just need to yell and get it off your chest.
It feels good.
It's cathartic.
You almost are like you're looking for someone to give you a problem.
(11:44):
Yeah, you kind of want somebody to like mess with you a little bit.
Yeah, so then you can get it out of your system.
New York is the perfect place to be a pissed off person.
I've been there in my life.
Same.
An angry point of my life and I love it.
I feel like having a bad day in New York and like making it somebody else's problem is a rite of passage.
(12:05):
It literally, I would highly recommend to anybody in the world who's going through any kind of breakup or a miserable situation, get your ass to New York on the next flight out.
And just stomp.
Yeah, stomp around.
And I, I love how blunt Carrie is at this brunch.
(12:27):
I love it too.
You know what, but it sucks so bad when someone has good news and you're in a shitty mood.
Well, funny you mentioned that because I was watching a different sex in the city episode the other day because I've just been watching random ones now.
And it's the one where Miranda finds out she's pregnant and it's the same day, same episode where Charlotte keeps not getting pregnant.
(12:50):
Yeah.
No matter how much like IVF and everything they try.
Yeah.
So it's just like classic.
And the Miranda's like complaining about it and Charlotte's like, how dare you complain about that?
Well, Miranda's saying she's going to get an abortion.
So Charlotte is like, how could you?
Yeah.
And it's just like she's taking it personal, but it's like classic brunch.
One of them has good news.
(13:11):
One of them has bad news, but it's so, it's so much fun to watch.
And Charlotte's ring is so large.
It's so beautiful, but it's so even more fabulous than your first one.
Oh, it and Charlotte's face is so funny when she says that.
Yeah, she was shook to her core when Samantha said that.
Carrie just goes, Oh, burger broke up with me on a post-it.
(13:34):
And then Samantha reads it out loud and her next line is so funny.
The motherfuckers concise.
It's so fucking funny.
This whole episode, I was like, I was laughing out loud.
I was giggling.
I was talking to myself.
Yes, me too.
This episode had a lot of one liners.
Yeah.
Famous iconic ones.
I also love that Carrie was planning to break up with burger anyway.
(13:57):
And she's still so mad that he broke up with her first.
I think that's what she's really mad about.
Yeah.
She is.
You can totally tell that's why she's mad.
And then because he did it first.
The throwaway line of Miranda saying that someone's doorman broke up with her once.
Miranda is pathetic with that.
Pathetic.
Why would you say that?
I was listening to another podcast and they were talking about how they listen to an interview with Cynthia Nixon.
(14:23):
Where it was kind of like fighting back at the critiques of Miranda and just like that.
Oh.
And she was like, Miranda's always been pathetic.
She's always been the punchline.
Yeah.
Like remember when she was flirting with the guy through her window and he was flirting with the guy above her?
Yeah.
Like she's always kind of been...
Oh my God, she thought he was leaving at home.
(14:44):
Yeah.
Or like a moment like this where she's like, I got broken up with by a doorman or the sandwich guy.
Or having to call all her old partners with Chlamydia News.
That's what I'm saying.
She is literally George Costanza.
Yeah, she's pathetic.
Which is so...
So it's again, it's so nice to see her in this episode like...
Have a win.
It's just like the episode of Sign Fall where George becomes smart for like an episode.
(15:07):
Yeah.
And they're like, okay George, just follow the opposite instinct.
Whatever instinct you have, just do the complete opposite.
And he's like, okay, let me try it.
So he walks up to this gorgeous woman at the bar and he's like, hi, my name is George and I'm unemployed and I live with my parents.
And she's like, hi, I'm Victoria.
Nice to meet you.
And she's like obsessed with him and then in that same episode, Elaine becomes really stupid.
(15:29):
Like, really dumb, dumber than a doorknob.
And it's so funny, but it just highlights like how nice it is when the stupid like corky character gets a break.
Yes.
And it makes everything so much funnier.
Yeah, it's funny.
And even at the end, like in the very last scene when Miranda does get kind of knocked down a peg.
(15:51):
Because they can't let her have more than an episode.
It's even funnier then.
It is.
It's like the punchline is perfect.
But yeah, I,
This is a good episode.
I really enjoyed it.
It's so good.
And like, I even have a note here that like, Charlotte is really trying to make Carrie feel better.
But it is annoying the level of optimist that she's being of just like, well, everything happens for a reason.
(16:14):
If I didn't do this and this wouldn't happen to me, the dead, the dead, the dead.
And it's like, girl, read the room.
But I think again, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
I just, my note is literally just Charlotte shut up.
Stop saying nice stuff.
Yeah.
And then we get this is a moment where I would have literally asked to only meet with Miranda or Sam.
Yeah.
I would have been like you two meet me.
(16:35):
Well, I will say, I do think Charlotte wouldn't have been as annoying if she hadn't just gotten engaged.
She still would have been annoying.
No, because remember when she wasn't engaged and Carrie and big broke up and she was like, Carrie, don't lose hope.
Like you guys are going to get back together.
Like she just gives terrible advice.
She's just, I'm in an anti-Charlotte mood.
See, I'm also just like, I'm so colored by and just like that where Charlotte is literally my favorite character.
(17:01):
Oh, okay.
And that makes complete sense because I'm still not cut up.
And I just think she's so funny and she just like nothing.
No one makes me laugh harder in that show than her.
Really?
Yeah.
I love even on season one.
Even bizarre.
Season one, I was like, Charlotte is the queen.
What?
Like Charlotte, like getting her period to like, I don't like at the painting thing.
(17:23):
I was like, she's so funny.
She just wants to be a good mom.
She's doing her best.
So I'm like team Charlotte, but I do think compared to Miranda and Samantha, she is like the nice, she's the, she's not the tough love parent with her friends.
She's always good cop.
Which I think is important because I mean, if it's always Miranda or if it's always Samantha, like, it's just gonna be, it's gonna be almost too negative at some, at some points.
(17:53):
Like we need a little bit of the-
I feel like Samantha's enough levity.
Yeah.
She makes a joke out of everything.
That's, that's how I need it to be handled.
But I think, any group, I think needs someone who's a little too earnest.
That's true.
I think that need-
Who would it be on Grey's Anatomy?
Who's, Lexi?
Lexi, exactly.
Or George.
And George.
And George.
(18:14):
You know, it's like you need that-
Actually not April, but like Arizona maybe.
I would say George, Arizona, Lexi.
Lexi, 100% is the most optimistic.
Yeah, you need that kind of like-
Yeah.
Because you have the one to balance everybody else out.
You need that.
Or else it's just, it becomes not fun when everyone's kind of just sarcastic and not taking it seriously and kind of just like defeatist.
(18:39):
Like if it was just Miranda, Samantha and Carrie, it would be just like, oh, it's just like they're just bitching all the time.
Which is fun, but I think to, I think it needs the balance of Charlotte, which is why I think I've come to appreciate her so much more in my, as I've gotten older.
Interesting.
But I do, she is annoying in this episode.
(19:00):
Yeah.
I can admit that.
Maybe it's just, maybe I'm just finding myself really annoyed with her for this episode.
It wasn't as bad before, but on this one I'm literally like, okay, change the order.
Yeah, she's also so honeymoon period.
Like nothing can tell her otherwise.
Which I think is even why I appreciate the scene at the end more when she does kind of second guess everything.
And kind of is this like, she gets a little defeated.
(19:24):
She gets a little like, well, I shouldn't do this because I did it the first time and it didn't work out in all this.
And she's so in her head.
So it's nice to see Carrie like snap her out of it and then Charlotte goes off with the Bachelorettes.
Yes.
And like, gets sort of this like rejuvenation from it.
Agreed.
And so I like the Charlotte storyline throughout the episode.
(19:46):
But we cut to Carrie and Samantha on a walk and talk.
Their outfits are fucking disgusting.
They're disgusting.
Samantha in the chartreuse colored shirt.
What the fuck are they wearing?
It's, it's, it is disastrous.
It was very bad.
And then Bernie was sitting next to me while I watched this one and she goes, it's crazy to me that Samantha's outfit is back in style.
(20:11):
And I didn't know what to say.
I, I don't like that.
I don't like that outfit at all.
Yeah, I don't like the outfit.
I don't like that.
I don't, it's too much.
Yeah.
Especially the bucket hat in the movie color.
And then it's like the, because she was wearing like blue bright green jeans, blue pants, like bright blue pants, like fluorescent blue.
And then a hot pink bag.
(20:33):
And then a bucket hat.
A bucket hat in like her outfit at the bar too is awful.
I didn't care for the bar outfit, especially.
I don't like pin straight hair.
No, me either.
And I don't like it on any of these women.
Me either.
Miranda's hair I loved in the bar.
Me too.
When she had the little swoopies.
Yeah.
She looked good.
And I mean, I have a note later on.
(20:55):
Charlotte in the bar.
She looked so beautiful.
She has that like insanely straight hair where it's just like perfectly, perfectly coiffed and parted.
You know what, when someone is too gorgeous though, sometimes it gives plain Jane.
Well, yeah, she definitely gives plain Jane.
She's a little way too beautiful.
Sometimes she really gives plain Jane.
(21:16):
You need a little ugliness, not too much.
No, a little edge.
You need a little ugliness to give you an edge.
I think Carrie has that.
Yeah.
Some people think that Sarah Jessica Parker is ugly.
I personally don't feel that way.
I know.
So we're just trying to reinforce that we are, we love her and we think she's so beautiful.
We love her and we don't think she's ugly.
You guys are fucking wrong.
Yeah.
Anyone who disagrees with that is out of their mind.
(21:37):
Like I don't, I don't see what you see.
But also Charlotte's top that like bedazzled, like, like, I don't, yeah, I guess, but it's just like so stunning.
Oh my God.
I was like, she looks so beautiful.
I'm like, I was scared a little bit, but they all look great in that scene.
Actually, I hate Carrie's outfit.
(21:58):
I don't even remember Carrie's outfit.
So yeah, I must have not been.
It's like a weird, like, silky, like hoodie, but there's no sleeves.
Uh huh.
Because she has her hood up when she gets caught by the cops.
Oh, you're talking about that one.
Yeah.
No, that's like a romper.
Is it?
A romper?
Hooded romper.
(22:19):
Oh, I hate that.
With an open back.
Yeah.
And a black bra is hanging out.
It's just like, why would she even be wearing a bra with that?
Some people, well, okay.
And this is where we get into the territory of 2000s fashion.
I was waiting for this to come up because like.
Nowadays, you just wouldn't wear a bra.
Nowadays, you just would go bra-less.
Yeah.
People nowadays have much more nipple confidence.
(22:40):
Yes.
Or you could even wear little pasties.
You could wear pasties if you don't have nipple confidence.
I think the issue is in the 2000s and early 90s even, it was actually fashionable for your bra to hang out.
That's why they started making bras in like different patterns and colors.
Yeah.
And it's like neutral white and black.
Because like, people would let them hang out of shirts.
(23:02):
People would wear them under sheer shirts and it would be like a second accessory.
She does that in the beginning.
Yes.
That's wild to me.
Kerry always does a black bra.
Yeah.
She does like black bra.
And then I'm like, girl, you're wearing a halter tank top and I can see your bra straps.
How does that not bother you?
But then there's sometimes when she's wearing like the slinkiest dress you can ever imagine.
(23:27):
And there's no bra.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
That's when she looks her chicest.
Like the episode when she knocks on the glass.
Yes.
And she's wearing that like gray skin tight dress.
She has never looked better.
She has never looked better.
That is, I genuinely think that and the newspaper dress are the two most beautiful moments she has in the whole show.
(23:48):
I agree.
And I also love her white Dior.
Yes.
The huge fire.
Oh, yes.
And I'm not generally someone who likes when she does the big florals.
I think it's a little tacky, but that was Gorgina.
I love the gold accenting on that dress.
It's so beautiful.
Okay.
So then they're doing a walk and talk and Samantha's like, I'm going to take you to bed.
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Kerry's like, I'm not that often.
And I have a couple of bisexual Samantha moments in this episode.
Also, I love Samantha's planner.
I love it.
I love a planner.
Me too.
I have, do you use a planner in your day to day?
I do at work.
I don't anymore.
I did at my old job, but now my new job, I just leave post it notes everywhere.
(24:33):
I do that too, but it started to get really chaotic because I would end my day with like thousands of them on my desk and computer.
So I started to have to switch back to a planner and I love it.
That makes sense though.
I have at most like two or three because it's more like, oh, by the end of the week, I need to do this.
Like it's stuff like that.
It never piles up that bad.
(24:54):
And my job, it's a pretty like rigid schedule for the stuff that I do.
Okay.
So I never need more than that, but I love a planner.
I think they're just like, they feel so chic.
They're so fun to have.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll add that to my list.
Thank you so much.
It's just nice.
I love it to do lists.
I love a planner.
I love it.
Yeah.
Nothing in my life would ever get done without one, by the way.
(25:16):
No, I agree.
I feel the same exact way.
Okay.
So they decided to go to bed that night, the club.
And Miranda calls Carrie and she's like, I don't want to go out.
Like I'm a mom, blah, blah, blah.
And Carrie's like, you're going no excuses.
Yeah.
She uses the, the, the post it as a trump card.
(25:39):
Post it as an excuse.
She's like, you will not get away from this.
And we also see Samantha and Smith talking about his appearance on TRL that night on
MTV and she's like, don't tell anybody that I'm your girlfriend.
Just say that you're single and still looking for someone special.
And he's like, okay.
Yeah.
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And it's really also them talking about TRL made me feel so old.
I was going to ask, do you remember TRL or was that like a little bit before you?
Oh no, I, so my uncles are not much older than me.
They're like 10 and 13 years older.
So when I was little, they were in their teens.
So I would watch TRL with them all the time.
(26:23):
Cute.
So I remember very like vividly watching like TLC and like all every, everyone who was on
there, specifically in the early 2000s, when it was Lala Anthony hosting, who's the host
in this episode?
I miss TRL.
Me too.
(26:45):
It was so important to culture like genuinely.
I really used to watch that with my aunt and we used to watch like all the time.
Yeah.
It was such a integral thing to culture.
Like I, we needed it.
I think, I think that's another, there's such a lack of things like it now.
(27:08):
Yeah.
So everyone, it feels like there's not, it doesn't feel like there's as much monoculture
anymore.
The closest thing I can think of to TRL.
This is going to, this may offend some people.
The only thing that's on TV nowadays or just existing in the world nowadays, other, that's
(27:29):
similar to TRL is the, the movie thing that plays when you go to the movie theater with
Maria Menoso.
I, no, I agree.
I think you're, I think that is so spot on.
That is the only thing that's even remotely close to TRL.
I agree.
And it's like, that's so crazy to think about when you used to just be able to watch it
in your house.
(27:50):
Yeah.
It was, no, it wasn't even just like, oh, I get to watch this.
It was like, I have to watch it.
It was appointment television.
Yeah.
It was appointment television.
And you got like, you saw the coolest new music videos, all the coolest new artists.
Like, and they used to like give you hot scoops on like what was happening in there.
Yeah.
And it was right in Times Square.
Oh my God.
So she brings back TRL.
(28:12):
Well, they tried.
And it failed.
Yeah.
And in 2017, they brought it back.
But it's just like the culture is so different now with social media and everything.
Everything's on social media.
It's like, well, I knew that fact like two hours ago.
Exactly.
It's like, well, I know the new song is coming out because I followed them and I saw Pop Crave.
Honestly, Pop Crave and the, the Twitter accounts like that are the closest thing we have to
(28:34):
TRL now.
Yeah.
That's like contemporary TRL.
Yeah.
TRL because it's like, that's who's tweeting about the new movie that's coming out or the
new pop song or who's dating who, you know, that's kind of crazy to think about.
But, um, Smith is sexy in a way that is so specific to a time.
(28:55):
Smith is a nice guy, but he, he's a little, he's a little slow on the pickup.
Yeah.
He's not like the, like, he's kind of like the sexy dumb guy.
Yeah.
He's a himbo.
Yeah.
But he's like, he's just sweet and he's so hot and it's fucking insane.
(29:16):
He's harmless.
Yeah.
He's harmless.
And he's like the perfect partner for Samantha at this point, I feel like, because he genuinely
has like no ulterior motives or no like.
He couldn't even think of an ulterior motive.
And I don't want to, I want it.
What I want to say is like, it could come off as rude, but he doesn't have the kind of
like he has ambition, but he doesn't have like a blood lust.
Like he's not a cold, like.
(29:39):
Wait, why would that come across as rude?
It's just a fact.
Because.
He's not interested in fame.
Samantha's the one that makes him what he is.
Yeah.
It's just like, well, I think sometimes ambition can be seen as like a negative, which I think
he is ambitious, but I think it's like not enough to be a bad guy.
Yeah.
It's where Samantha kind of balances him out like that.
(30:00):
Samantha does have ulterior motives.
Like he looks at something and he's like, yeah, I don't know.
These people want to take a picture of me or something like that.
And she's like, okay, great.
We're going to milk it for millions.
Yeah.
He's very rose colored glasses.
Yeah.
And I mean, the absolute hunk photo is so iconic.
That's another iconic thing.
This is a very, he is a very attractive man.
(30:22):
It makes complete sense that this would be Samantha's longest relationship as a guy who's
just genuinely innocent, sweet, kind of shy, would never want to hurt her.
Yeah.
Like doesn't try too hard.
Yes.
He just is happy to be with her at the end of the day.
It doesn't matter.
And she tells him, say you're single.
(30:46):
And he's like, okay.
Yeah.
And he doesn't fight with her.
And then we see Charlotte like holding her humongous honking ring up next to every single
dress that she owns.
And Bernie was like, that's you because last night I was getting ready for my anniversary
dinner.
I literally said to Bernie, my engagement ring is the ultimate accessory.
(31:08):
It's true.
It should be.
I mean, it's 14 carat white gold and a beautiful diamond and a beautiful diamond.
Again, I'm so excited to go.
I love engagement.
I love it.
I love that the pageantry.
We are we're milking it to Bernie's school.
Yeah.
(31:29):
We're like, you guys have to tell everybody that you just got engaged in Italy.
At the restaurant, we were like, they were like, are you celebrating anything in particular?
And we were like, we're celebrating our anniversary, but also our engagement.
And I was like showing them my ring and everything.
And we got like free desserts, free.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah.
Like it was in a $50 gift card to come back.
(31:50):
Oh my God.
Although we were kind of thinking maybe they give us this gift card because the restaurant's
like on the verge of like bankruptcy or something, but we have no idea if that's why or not.
Which is like, I mean, either way, take it and use it.
Also, I understand where what's it called Miranda's coming from with the night out.
(32:13):
Yeah.
She feels not like she doesn't feel hot.
She doesn't feel hot.
And going out when you don't feel hot is like a death sentence.
It really is.
You don't want to.
You can't.
It is just a losing battle.
You're like, I can't rally.
I simply can't.
And then like gospel truth of good pair of jeans will save your life.
(32:36):
Sometimes all you can do is put on a pair of jeans.
Sometimes you can't even look at the other stuff.
No.
It just has to be a pair of jeans.
You just need the right denim to hug you, right?
Yeah.
And you will feel like a million dollars.
And she looks so good.
The wrist wrap was not my favorite accessory.
Oh, the belt I'm not in love with, the bag I'm not in love with.
(32:59):
I wish her top was a little better, but the jeans, ooh.
So really what we're saying is she didn't look that great.
She looks beautiful in the face.
Her outfit was boring, but she looked happy and confident.
That's true.
Which is kind of the most important thing when you're going out.
Yeah.
Confidence attracts good energy.
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I feel.
I agree.
But it's also just so fun seeing them all go out.
I agree.
I love when they have night out.
It's just so fun.
And like Charlotte is starting to feel like weird about her ring and the engagement and everything.
And Samantha's basically like, that ring deserves a parade.
A ring that big deserves a parade.
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And I agree.
Sometimes, tell me if you picked up on this.
Like I love Kim Katral.
She's an amazing actress.
She's arguably the best one out of all of them.
Sometimes she lays it on a little thick.
Yeah.
Like sometimes the Samantha voice is a bit much.
No, I agree.
And like in this moment at the bar, I mean not at the bar at the club, like she was like going.
(34:06):
She lays it on.
Yeah, it was way too thick during this.
Like.
Like you know what she's like, honey.
She's like, girl, oh my God.
She's like, oh girl.
Yeah.
Like it's like an affect.
It's like a drag queen affect voice.
Yeah, it was way too thick.
She's like, girl, get yours.
(34:28):
Yeah.
Like it's so, it's so hammy.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
And it feels like a sketch.
It's funny.
And it makes me smile.
It makes me laugh sometimes.
But other times I'm like, wow, okay.
She went really happy with the voice.
Yeah, she's like, oh, she was feeling it that day.
Yeah.
Um.
We're so bitchy.
(34:51):
It's true, but it's true.
She does it.
It's like, that's like everyone who does a impression of her does that.
Yeah, yeah.
You can't help it.
That's like her iconic thing.
Yeah.
And oh, also at bed, I love that all the servers and like wait staff and everything are wearing
pajamas.
I love that.
I wish this was real.
I love it.
(35:11):
Is this a real concept for a bar?
I don't know.
I like it though.
I wish it was.
I mean, I know there are some places that they've had on Sex and the City that actually were
real places.
Yeah.
Um, but not all of them.
So, no, but it's such a fun idea and it's like so silly.
All the beds are like these cool see-through plastic.
I kind of love it.
I do too.
(35:32):
It's really like, it's so stupid in a way that I like, I love.
Yeah.
And Miranda goes to the bathroom.
She gets separated from the girlies.
She has a funny one liner again.
She's like, if I knew it would be like this, I would have brought my bike guard.
You can also tell when they give Miranda like, when she's supposed to be more confident
(35:55):
because her jokes come off less snarky and more like, ooh.
Yeah.
And like also she's funnier and more like something.
She's genuinely funnier.
Yeah, she is.
When she's having a good time, she's so much more entertaining.
Another line that reminds me of this is when she's like, as opposed to his fucking bitch,
(36:18):
his fucking whore.
Yeah.
When she, you can-
You know what I'm trying to say, right?
Yeah.
You can hear that, you can hear in the line delivery that she's smiling.
Yeah.
Or that she's like, knows she's being funny versus-
Yes.
Sometimes she's just being snarky and sarcastic and you're like, okay.
And it's funny by chance.
Yeah.
She's in a bad mood, but that was kind of funny.
But no, I 100% agree.
(36:40):
It's all in the delivery and the attitude behind it.
But yeah, you can- Cynthia Nixon's an actress when you can hear her smile in a line.
Yeah.
And it's fun.
It's fun to watch and listen to.
And she gets bumped into some other guy's bed.
And he like starts flirting with her and he reminded me of Skipper.
(37:00):
He did remind me of Skipper too.
He literally looks exactly like him.
Like the curly hair.
Like the hair texture.
Yeah.
And it was very, he was really cute and like really a good flirt.
Why did Miranda just like get up and leave though?
Why didn't she be like-
I think it's one of those things where it's kind of like sometimes you don't need it to
go anywhere, but you just needed it right then.
(37:21):
Yeah.
You just needed to like flirt a little bit and have fun, but you don't want it to go
anywhere.
Yeah.
You needed to pick me up to be like, I still got it.
Yeah.
And it was nice to see her get that and with like a, seems like a sweetie guy.
And she looks like she's just having the exact night she needed.
Yes.
Um, Bernie was sitting with me and she said that the host looked like Jennifer Beals.
(37:46):
What are your thoughts?
Oh, I don't remember.
I don't remember the host at all.
I honestly, I missed her.
Like when I looked up at the screen, she had already gone.
So I could not verify.
Yeah.
But I wanted to.
Um, she didn't stick around in my mind.
So I can't disagree or agree.
But I trust Bernie.
(38:06):
I agree.
Oh, no, actually, I don't think I do.
One time we were looking at a magazine or we were watching something and fucking it
was a picture of Betsy Johnson and she goes, Oh wow, whatever happened to Cindy Loper.
Okay.
Don't act like Betsy Johnson doesn't give crazy Cindy Loper energy.
(38:29):
Um, that is not the only time one time we were looking at a magazine.
And it was a picture of fucking Julia Roberts and she goes, is that Sarah Jessica Parker?
Okay.
That one I understand less.
I can still get it.
I still get the vibe.
She is so confused.
There's many, many, many times where this has happened.
(38:50):
I don't think I trust what she said.
I think the Julia Roberts one is the least.
I agree with the least, but I, I agree with the rest.
Y'all are so wrong for that.
I'm with Bernie.
Wow.
I feel the burn.
Um, okay.
(39:11):
Another question for you.
When Miranda makes the joke about move over, that's my side of the bed.
Are you picky about your side of the bed?
Yes.
I have my side of the bed and Tony has their side of the bed.
Me too.
I'm picky about mine too.
I think, I think it's crazy if people don't.
What does it mean?
What does your side of the bed mean?
Like what, I wonder if it's like sort of like left brain, right brain.
(39:33):
I wonder if it's like, if you like to sleep on the right side of the bed, you're this.
And if you sleep on the left side of the bed, you're this.
I will say, I don't think I have a specific side I always choose.
It depends on the bed and the situation.
Yeah.
Like my, before Tony moved in, it was kind of, I just, I mean, I also had, it was a queen-size
(39:53):
bed alone.
So I kind of just slept in the middle.
Um, but I also had a fucking 70 pound dog.
So things weren't perfect.
But I, I think I used to gravitate towards the left side.
If I'm thinking, if I'm looking at it.
Okay.
If we're looking at the bed.
(40:14):
Yeah.
Standing at the end, at the end of the bed.
Yeah.
Usually sleep on the left.
I sleep, now I sleep on the left.
I used to just sleep in the middle when it was just me.
But in the past, it's kind of just been like, whatever.
I, in our current situation, I picked the right side or the side I'm on because it was
(40:35):
the one closer to the door.
And I didn't want to be closer to the wall.
I used, in our old apartment, I chose the right side because, okay.
I know, on the, on our old apartment, I chose the left side because we only had one bedside
table and I needed somewhere to put my glasses.
(40:56):
Yeah.
I'm also like, if there's only access to one bedside table, I have that access.
And now we have our house and we both have a bedside table, but I'm still on the left
because I got used to sleeping on the left.
And now I'm on the left.
I think it's like, I think if we moved or moved the bed or had a different bed or something
(41:17):
like that, it would maybe reset.
Interesting.
But I don't know either because now we've gone into the rhythm.
Mine carries over into like hotels.
Like when we go into a hotel, I want the left.
Yeah.
I'm sure it would be the same for us.
Yeah.
Because when we visited Tony's sister, I slept on the same side.
So I guess now we're kind of in that like groove of it.
(41:39):
But before this, I was, I've never been, I've never been picky.
Like if Tony was like, oh, let's switch, I would be like, okay.
So interesting.
But now we're both lefties.
Yeah.
Fascinating.
Let's see what I can do.
Weird.
Girl.
(42:01):
Oh, those who sleep on the left believe that they are calmer than their partner in a crisis
and are more confident in general.
It is also reported that left side sleepers are believed to have a greater level of job
satisfaction than right-siders.
Left side sleepers may have something else going for them too.
That seems like a real reach.
(42:22):
These are reaching.
But I do, I like the calmer part because I think like in a crisis, I think I'm calmer.
But listen to this.
People who sleep on the right are believed to be grumpier and have a less positive outlook
on the world.
Have I been sleeping on the wrong side of the bed?
That's such a weird, that just feels so impossible to dictate or like.
(42:45):
That's research.
They've done research on it.
Interesting.
That's so crazy to me.
I am fascinated by this.
I want to know more.
Yeah, that's such a weird thing I've never actually thought about.
Wow.
Oh my God.
Right in.
What side of the bed do you sleep on?
Me?
(43:06):
No, the listener.
Oh.
If you're out there.
Yeah, listeners, what side of the bed do you sleep on and describe yourself to us, please?
Carrie is a right side sleeper.
Really?
Yes, with Big in the hotel when they have the affair.
She's on the right side with Aiden.
She's on the right side when she dates the model.
(43:28):
She's on the right side.
And when she's by herself, she's in the middle.
Yes, which is how I would operate.
Me too.
When I'm all alone, I sleep in the middle.
Miranda is also on the right side.
Yeah, she is.
I think Charlotte also is.
I wonder what Samantha is.
I don't think we ever see her like...
No, I've seen Charlotte on the left.
(43:50):
Is she on the left?
Remember when she gives the guy the boxers, she's on the left side.
Okay.
So that actually makes sense because people on the left side wake up in a more positive mood,
calmer and feel more confident in general than people who sleep on the right side.
Interesting.
Huh.
(44:11):
Okay, fascinating.
Well...
I am fascinated by this.
It is such a weird thing I've never in my life had a thought...
think about.
I guess my brain just works in a weird way.
I think...
I like that though.
Yeah, me too.
I always ask annoying questions.
I do incessant polling.
I think people get frustrated with me.
Sometimes I ask the most annoying questions.
(44:32):
Like, it'll be at the completely wrong time.
I just ignore you.
And I'll be like, what is your all-time favorite breakfast cereal?
And somebody's like, why would you even ask me that right now?
And I'm like, quickly tell me what it is.
See, I have the trait that I have that's similar but not the same that I know annoys people,
as I'll be like, okay, guess.
(44:53):
Yeah.
I want to make it a game.
Yeah, I love guessing games.
I do too!
It's so fun.
It is really fun.
It's so fun.
I do Detonio all the time where I'll be like, oh my God, guess this thing.
And Tilline will be like, oh, what is that?
I'm like, no, you have to guess.
You have three guesses.
Yeah.
I always make, like, my favorite games that I do of guessing is I like to do guess the
initials when I'm driving.
(45:14):
Like, if I have to.
Ooh, okay.
Like, if we're driving somewhere really far, we do like guess the initials and it'll be
like, okay, what's the category?
Okay, celebrities.
Or it'll be like, female actresses or musicians.
And we have to do initials.
So like.
I like that.
Yeah.
And we always do.
And sometimes we'll be 20 questions too is another fun one that we always do.
Oh, I love a 20 questions.
(45:37):
Yeah, I'm just, I don't know.
You and I are annoying in the same ways.
Yeah.
I'm guilty of incessant polling.
I'm constantly asking people to pick their favorites of stuff.
It really bothers people.
It's true.
What can you do?
Yeah, I like it.
Okay.
Moving on.
My personal opinion is that Carrie never should have spoken at bed.
(46:01):
Like, no, she should not have.
No, she should not have gone and talked to those men.
She did not need to.
Like, I do like that she yelled at them.
Nothing good came of it.
No.
And like, other than the funny line when she was like, we have to go.
Yeah.
That made me laugh.
But I also was like, she doesn't owe these people anything.
(46:23):
She doesn't have to go talk to them.
She doesn't have to lie to them or tell them she was lying to them.
Like the whole scene was so unnecessary.
The worst advice ever given was Charlotte saying be honest and just go up to them and tell them that she was lying.
Yes, 100%.
She's the stupidest person on this planet.
Yeah, I fundamentally don't understand that advice.
(46:45):
It's so stupid to me.
She's her brain's growth when she says that.
Yeah.
And then Carrie just goes off on those guys.
And she's right.
Everything she says is right.
But like, she doesn't need to say it.
And like, expects him to react like, girl, they're not going to react.
That's their friend.
Like, you're...
Yeah, that's their friend.
It's so...
It was so silly and unnecessary.
(47:08):
She's doing way too much.
I would have just left.
Like, I love her anger, but it was completely awkward.
I literally would have...
I love how she like, forgets his name, but other than that...
I would have just waved at them and that been it.
Yeah, like, she basically proved the other guy's point when he was like, you guys just get really pissed off and become like, psychotic.
Like, she basically proved his point.
(47:30):
But you know what?
Sometimes you have to prove someone's point.
Sometimes you have to lose your shit.
I know, but it was not a good thing that she did that.
No.
You have...
I definitely fall into the thing of like, oh, you assumed something?
I'm going to double down now and it will be worse.
I mean, I get...
(47:51):
Again, I get her anger.
She's totally valid.
I just don't think...
I don't think I would have said anything.
Yeah, this is not how I would have handled it.
Um...
So they leave.
They finally leave.
They pull Miranda away from her cute nice guy.
And I just remember...
This is the part where I remembered they were going to smoke weed in this episode.
(48:15):
Also, like, they smell the weed.
They're trying to find it.
Why is Charlotte and Miranda acting like those men are free-basing cocaine?
They are acting like it's the biggest deal in the world.
Was it that big of a deal in the 90s?
I don't know.
I feel like...
I don't know.
It's just...
To me, I'm also like someone who's literally never been high.
(48:36):
I just don't think weed is that big of a deal.
I guess in this day and age it isn't.
But back in those days, maybe it was.
I guess.
I mean, I don't know.
It's still just like so silly.
I also...
One thing that I was thinking about, and this is mostly at the end when eventually,
eventually, Swoiler, Samantha and Carrie are smoking, it's just shocking how...
They don't do drugs on this show.
(48:59):
Yeah, like, they are always on the party scene.
You would...
These are the exact people...
And they never get high.
And it's like, it's not like it was like a...
A network show.
It was fucking HBO.
Right, like...
They could have showed Samantha doing a bump once.
Oh my God, yes.
Or even...
I can picture Carrie doing it too.
The closest we ever get is like, Samantha with the Viagra.
(49:24):
And, I mean, wait, there's another episode I'm thinking of.
Carrie is a bit of a stoner.
Remember she dates the stoner guy, the comic book owner?
Oh yeah.
The comic book guy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Carrie is a little bit of a stoner and I can see her getting into the party scene.
Like, I can see her doing coke too.
It's just so surprising we don't see as much of that.
It's like, it's New York in the 90s club scene.
(49:47):
Club scene.
They're hanging out with models frequently.
And they're all, like, rich.
I feel like it gets talked about one time by, like, Stanford.
He's like...
Yeah.
He talks about a boyfriend of his or whatever.
Oh wait, Carrie walks in the bathroom and sees someone doing coke one time.
Remember?
No, when was that?
(50:09):
And there's a girl doing coke and she's like, oh, do you want some?
And Carrie's like, um, no.
Oh yes, was it in the model or something like that?
Yeah, or something like that.
It was at a party or something.
But yeah, it's just something that, it's so funny that weed is so scandalous in this episode.
Yeah, I don't know.
They freak out.
I mean, Carrie gets written up.
It's so silly.
(50:30):
Carrie gets written up.
Um, and then in the bar where they go to buy their weed, Samantha watches TRL and gets
sad because Smith tells the world that he's single.
And he's not seeing anyone special.
He's dating, but he's not seeing anyone special is what he says.
Which is, it's hard to hear.
He looks into the camera as he says it.
And I think that he was trying to say like, Samantha, I did what you said, but I think
(50:54):
he was trying to send her a little message through the TV to be like,
I can definitely see that.
I think he was trying to say like, I don't, I don't agree with what I'm saying right now.
I'm just saying it because you told me to.
I, yeah.
And then Samantha makes out with that guy.
It's so stupid.
Like girl, it's so stupid.
(51:15):
And then they almost get beat up by the group of like Long Island women.
That part made me laugh.
Um, also, you know who one of the girls is?
Wait, she looks familiar.
I don't know the one on the left.
Her name is Orphie and she's in league.
She's probably a Paulette.
Legally blonde.
Yes, legally blonde lady.
(51:36):
Yep.
I know.
Isn't that I literally was so gagged from Broadway.
You know, I've met her.
No.
That's amazing.
I met her at the Broadway flea market.
That is so cool.
The main woman looks kind of like a C tier Debbie Maze on.
I was just going to say that.
I was literally just going to say that.
Yep.
It's, I literally had to look it up.
I was like, is that Debbie Maze?
(51:57):
No, it's not her.
And just like bad makeup.
But no, it's, it's crazy.
And I mean, that would have been so funny for her to be this like trashy woman from New York.
I know.
But yeah, it like gagged me.
I loved it.
And then, okay, so they finally go back outside after the girls chase them out and Samantha
reveals she had a, had a joint in her bra this entire time that she got from the bartender
(52:23):
for slipping in the 20 and they start smoking and literally as soon as Samantha walks away
to take a call from Smith, a police pulls up as Kerry is like taking a drag on this
joint.
And she does this like Scooby Doo turnaround.
It's so silly.
It's so fucking funny.
(52:44):
And she's holding, she's got the joint in her mouth.
And she just looks so silly and so dumb.
They are so stupid.
And she, okay, so he gets her in the back of the car and Miranda starts pleading with
the officer like, come on, like she, she didn't mean anything by it.
She had a bad day and she got broken up by a post it and he like doesn't believe her.
(53:10):
So then Kerry puts the post it in the window, which is such an iconic scene.
It's so iconic.
And then he's like, fine, I'll write you up for smoking at a bar and they're like still
arguing with him.
And then he recites the post it back to her, which was so fucking funny.
So rude, so funny, so rude, especially when it's like, girl, he's cutting you a break.
(53:34):
Shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
And then they all go to the, the restaurant, the cafe.
And they're like eating this huge Sunday.
And Samantha snarks at Kerry and she's like, stop bow guarding the split.
Yeah.
And then Miranda's jeans pop open.
(53:55):
And Kerry laughs so hard and it's such like a good Sarah Jessica Parker like belly laugh.
Yeah.
I love her.
Like really, it is such a funny episode.
It's such a like good time episode.
It really is a good one.
I'm so like, I'm so glad I chose it.
And we like, I found so many more things in it than I, that I loved that I didn't remember.
(54:16):
Me too.
I was pleasantly surprised by how many funny things happened in this one.
Like laugh out loud in a way that I don't laugh at every sex in the city episode, especially
having seen them all so many times.
Yeah.
And sometimes you rewatch them and you end up watching the same ones and over and over.
And then once in a while you put on a completely random one and you're like, oh my God, that
(54:37):
was such a good one.
Like fuck, that was good.
Yeah.
But next week is one of your choices.
And mind you, we only have two more episodes of sex in the city left.
Oh my God, we're almost done.
We're almost done with sex in the city.
Wow.
Oh, I know it feels weird.
It feels weird.
We haven't even talked about like what we might want to watch next.
I know, I have an idea which is one we've been talking about since the beginning.
(55:03):
So I'll text you that after we're done.
No spoilers.
But I think it would be a good summer series to watch.
Interesting.
Okay, I can't wait to see what it is.
Yeah.
But yeah, next week is one of mine.
Hang on, I'm pulling it up.
(55:26):
Oh my gosh, this is such a good one.
Samantha buys a vibrator and babysits Mark from her.
I'm very fucking excited to watch that one.
That is literally one of my all time favorite episodes of the week.
It's so insane.
Period, period.
It's just such a good episode.
I can't wait.
It's going to be a good time.
Feel free to watch ahead if you'd like to keep up.
(55:46):
But until then, bye bye.
Until then, take care and we'll talk to you soon.
Yes.
Bye.
Bye.
Oh my god, he's online.
Can you see me?
What the hell is she talking about?
Who's this?
Starts to do Angelina please.
Wow, she died.
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