The Riddle Of The Clitoris - Sex and the City S2 E4

We are back baby! And you know who else is back?!?! SAMANTHA FUCKIN JONES!! We get into the bombshell news that Kim Cattrall is returning for one scene in the second season of And Just Like That... We also talk about this iconic episode where Carrie is humiliated in the press and in a Porsche, Miranda won't stop faking it, and Samantha gets tricked into We.

Episode Transcript

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Hello. Hello.

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So what, no fucking ziti now?
Don't make me laugh.
Hi, welcome to Know That Episode. I'm Victoria.
And I'm Trev. We're two friends who watch too much TV.
We break down iconic episodes of good shows
and bad
and explain why we feel the way we do.
Today we're talking about Season 2 Episode 4 of Sex and the City titled They Shoot Single People, Don't They,

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which aired on June 27th, 1999.
I love this episode so much.
So this is one of your picks for Top Favorite.
Yes. And like, I feel like it's pretty obvious why
there's some iconic guest stars of people who like, weren't famous yet.
Um, there's also just like, the single and fabulous New Yorker cover

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is synonymous with Sex and the City.
Yeah, it is.
It's one of those things that like, when you talk to someone about Sex and the City,
that's one of the first things that flashes in their mind.
It's one of those things that if somebody were to make like, a sticker pack and sell it on Etsy,
that would be one of the things.
There are so many things that are, yeah, like we are so over, we need a new word for over.

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The Post-It, the New Yorker cover, a pack of Marlboro lights, a Cosmopolitan, a Cosmo, like the MacBook.
Like there are so many things, like a pair of Monolablonics.
Like there are things that are so core to the show and this is it.
And also this episode is just so fucking funny.
This episode is very funny.

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I would say like, it's just like, I think I have a note in here where it's all of the brunch scenes are just jokes, jokes, jokes, jokes.
There's no, especially when you're dealing with an episode where Carrie's like kind of going through it emotionally.
Like she's sad, she's kind of bummed out the whole time.

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I feel bad for her in this episode, but at the same time, like I have to say something, this might be controversial,
but like, I've never, like personally I find Carrie to be gorgeous.
I do, I think that she has sex appeal.
She's a very sexy person.
But when you get into like the actual like definition or like the actual like image of like the 90s, like gorgeous.

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She was not the beauty standard.
I don't think she was.
No, I don't think so either.
Like we find her attractive and we, she has like a star quality that's like undeniable.
Yeah.
And I think that's part of a huge part of why I find her attractive.
She just has that girl quality, but I just don't find her to be conventionally attractive.

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No, a lot of people don't think that Sarah Jessica Parker is attractive.
I think Sarah Jessica Parker is beautiful.
And I think the fact I think she's, and this is this is something that people say is like a read sometimes or it can feel like a read.
She's beautiful because she she just has such unique features.
Like her hair, her nose, the shape of her face, it's so it is an unconventional beauty.

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And then I think piled on top of just kind of the star quality, it girl nature she has like you mentioned.
It's just like it's a match made in heaven.
She wears the clothes, the clothes don't wear exactly.
You can that can't be said for everything.
That can't be taught.
Like she may not look like a fucking supermodel of the 90s like Linda Evangelista and the Naomi Campbell's and like all of that.

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Like obviously she's not the statuesque beauty.
But she the way she carries herself, not pun not intended is so elegant and so but I think it's also like she feels like a girl you could meet at a bar.
Right.
Okay.
That's what I think is very real.
She's very real.
Like there's almost a crassness to carry.

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Like, I feel like most of the supermodels are probably the same way of like, yeah, we're going to do kind of like, they're going to do stuff that isn't necessarily prim and proper like Charlotte.
I would put Charlotte at the opposite end of carry as far as like the beauty spectrum.
I noticed it more in the in these two episodes that we watched.

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I agree.
Then I have in the past three episodes that we've watched.
I agree.
Like it's Charlotte is gore.
She's like, she's like classic Hollywood beauty.
Yeah, she's she's a button nose gorgeous brown eyes perfect pin straight hair.
She's very much in the like Audrey Hepburns like Grace Kelly's of it all.

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She's so prim her hair pulled back.
She's always she's so well manicured.
Yes, manicured is exactly the word.
She has again like, I think Carrie and I think Carrie has flaws.
Carrie has flaws and like Carrie Samantha and Miranda, they're girls that you couldn't meet if you went out for a drink.
They're approachable while still being all incredibly beautiful.

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They're approachable because those three characters have flaws and Charlotte her flaws are they're they're not as visible or not as no, they're like psychological or
more than anything.
And she only reveals them to her like her best friends, the guys she dates.
They don't think that.
Yeah, they all think that she's perfect.

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It isn't until she starts dating Harry that she allows her neuroses to like.
I think it's also like this feels stupid, but it's something we see in the show like Carrie will just get a beer.
Yeah, and that's kind of sexy.
It is kind of sexy because she she doesn't care as much as other women.

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She's not keeping up appearances.
She wants to look good and she wants to be cool, but she's not like like Carrie walks around in like low rise jeans and like a baby doll crop.
She's not always wearing some incredibly chic dress like she does.
She doesn't always look completely put together and she doesn't care about that how other people might view that.

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No, because the fact that for that reason there.
Yeah, it's how she wears the clothes that makes them cool when I completely relate to this when Carrie is wearing like.
Like a like I think she's wearing in spoiler alert guys.
Victoria is going on vacation.
So we're we're doing a couple episodes and in the same day.

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So they kind of bleed together a little bit, but she's wearing like Wonder Woman panties or like boxers.
Yeah.
You know what you know what it is.
And like I think they're different, but I would classify them in a similar way or the way they're attractive.
What Cameron Diaz is very beautiful and a super model way.

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You know what I mean?
Like she has like the features of a model.
Okay.
But her characters and the way she handles herself have always been kind of like down to earth guys girl.
And I think Carrie does the same thing some ways.
I agree.
Yeah, I get what you mean.
Like they could wear the little Wonder Woman boy shorts and it's sexy because the like they just feel comfortable.

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I don't know.
I can't explain it, but yeah, I agree with you that Carrie's like an unconventional beauty.
And in this episode she it's like explicit because like they showed me that cover and I was like, bitch, she still looks good.
Really?
I thought in the cover she did look like shit because she has the bags under her eyes.
And then she kind of slouched over like they had to try really hard to make her look bad.

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Yeah, she still looks like shit, but it's in a way where I'm like.
I kind of want to be her.
Exactly.
Like it's still weirdly aspirational and chic.
Yeah.
Even while looking like shit holding a cigarette and like being rude about decaf coffee.
I'm like, damn, Carrie is just still fucking cool.
Yeah.
She's still the cool girl at the party.

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And you know what it is?
It's the lack of caring.
Yeah.
She just doesn't.
Worried.
Or maybe she cares after the fact, but the realization doesn't hit her in the moment.
Yeah.
She's very free.
Right.
Free is exactly the word.
Like she could be surrounded by other women who are like a size zero and like, no, I'm going to have like this.

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I'm going to have a vodka soda.
Yeah.
The most boring people in the world will order a vodka soda.
And you ask them why and they're like, it's no calories.
Which is so insane.
It's no.
And for like, for me and for Carrie and for a lot of other people, like, I'm going to do what makes me happy.
I'm going to get myself a little fucking treat.

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Right.
Fuck the calories for that.
And yeah, I will be ordering something that is sweet and tasty and delicious.
Or I'm going to be ordering something that is just good.
Like I'll order a corona at a bar.
Yeah.
If I'm in the mood for it.
Right.
I just like, I just want to get a, I want to hang out with her.
I do.
I do.

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I don't always want to hang out with Charlotte or Miranda.
No.
And can I just say something?
The fact that Samantha only invites Carrie.
Yes.
I literally made a note of that too.
I was like, is that in this episode or the next one?
It's in this one because it's the, it's the fear.
She, she dates the wee guy.
Yeah.
So the fact that she only invited Carrie on that vacation is just so correct and on the nose.

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I would do the same thing.
Some of your fr, like no matter how close you are with someone, some bitches are not a good time on vacation.
Exactly.
And they bring the vibe down with their negative energy and their mood.
You want to go on vacation with someone who's a down ass bitch.
Right.
Like you and I, I know if we went on vacation together, it would be no problem.
It would have a blast.
And there would be not a problem in the world.

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Like Tony and I go on vacation together and if anything, I'm the stick in the mud.
Oh my God.
Like I just can't deal with those kinds of people who have an agenda for everything on vacation.
No.
I like to just, I'm here for wherever the wind takes me.
I don't like to plan everything into a Libyan.
No, it's not fun that way.

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But also like, you know, those people who are like one bad thing sets them off in a mood and they make it everyone's problem.
Yes.
Or they just continue to complain about it after, it's like, just let it go.
Yeah.
It's like, okay, we missed that bus.
We're gonna get the next one or we missed this train or like the place we wanted to go for a brunch is booked out for the next hour and a half.

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Like let's just go somewhere else.
Like let's be spur of the moment.
Let's be spontaneous.
Let's not like make them out and out of a molehill.
There's a bunch of other restaurants and there's other, there's other things we can do to like solve the situation.
I think especially with like something like going to the Hamptons or like going like Tony and I just went to Chicago for a couple days.
And like other than the concert we had tickets to see it was very much like, well, what do you want to do today?

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Like what's, what's the mood for?
Wake up and go.
Do you want to walk around all day?
Do you want to go to a museum?
Do we want to go see like a show?
Like what are we, what are we in the mood for?
Exactly.
And then let's go from there and we'll kind of fly by the seat of our pants.
That's how Bernie and I are on vacation too.
Yeah.
Like when we, I think of like when we've gone to like San Francisco and San Diego, both of those trips, we were just kind of like, there's a few things that we really want to do.

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Like we want to see the Golden Gate Bridge.
We want to go to Balboa Park.
Like, okay, sure.
But for everything else, it was pretty much just like, do you want to walk down this street for like 30 minutes and see where we end up?
And Tony and I are the same way where it's like every time we've gone to New York together or when we went to Chicago, it was really just like, okay, well, we'll figure something out.
Like we have these big plans.

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Like we have a show this night, every other time though.
But I mean, I think we're also dwelling on this because both of us have vacation on the brain.
I know, but it just ends up because we're talking about how like other girls are going away together.
Yeah, the cool girls are going away together.
The cool, easy breezy girls are going away together.
The two high maintenance girlies are not invited.

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Period.
It's that simple.
And it's like, it's, I get it.
I was Samantha, I would have done the same thing because it's like she knows Carrie's just going to be there to have a good time.
She was spot on with that.
She's not going to have to worry about Carrie or like hinder her plans for Carrie.
Or like babysit her or modify her own plans.
That's another thing.
I can't stand when you're on vacation with someone and they make you feel bad for going your separate way.

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Yeah.
Oh my God.
That always happens in like a group vacation.
Yeah.
And I've been on a few of them like that where it's like.
Or like a family vacation.
Yeah.
It's just like they, of course, like we're there to spend time together and like we went together.
So that's the reason why it's fun to spend time together.
But like if I'm also there with my partner and we want to do something and you all don't want to do it or we just want some alone time, like nobody should feel bad for that.

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Yeah.
It's like, it's not that serious.
Yeah.
We all paid the same amount to be here.
We all should get to enjoy stuff that we actually want to do.
Like fucking exactly.
But.
Okay.
Moving on.
Is it just me or did we also discuss an episode of Gilmore Girls with a really similar title?
They shoot Gilmore Girls, don't they?
Yes.

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Yeah.
Is that a quote from something?
And I'm just like, I miss the memo.
They shoot Horses, Don't They is a novel and then film adaptation of said novel.
Oh, okay.
So that's where it comes from.
It's like a Jane Fonda's in it.
Oh my God.
Oh, okay.
I never heard of or seen this movie.
I just know it from Gilmore Girls and Sex in the City.
Me too.

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Oh, Sydney Pollock directed this movie.
Oh.
What is it about?
Yeah.
What is it about?
Uh, is a homeless man ever called some fence leading to an unsaid a crime?
It's like a depression era movie.
Oh God.
I'm not interested.
But it gave us two iconic episode titles.

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True.
And I, oh my God.
What?
We have breaking, not breaking anymore, breaking news about it and just like that.
Oh my God.
How have you forgotten to talk about that?
Okay, there's no.
Oh my God.
I literally had to call my mom about it.

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I literally texted my family group chat all in text, like on fire.
Somebody texted me about it right now.
What did I text you?
You texted me an audio.
I broke it to you.
You texted me an audio and it was, you were like, it was like respond to re, check your
text right now.
You better text me back as soon as I text you about this.
And I was like, oh my God, what is this about to be?

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And then you texted me a screenshot or a tweet of the announcement of the fact that Kim
Cattrall is coming back as Samantha Jones.
And fucking what's a, of Patty Fields is back.
Yes.
Patricia Fields came back just to dress Samantha.
I have a feeling that Kim Cattrall was like, I won't do it unless she's involved because

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I don't want to be dressed by any other.
No, she knows.
She knows some of the looks.
She's probably been watching it.
She knows it just like that was kind of booger boots with the clothes.
Exactly.
I don't know that bitch has read the articles and has been seeing the tweets about how badly
dressed everyone was and was like, I'm not coming back unless she's involved.
And also they're still like good, good friends.

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Yes.
I was like, I'm going to bring my girl along.
And like, look, I am an unjust like that defender.
Me too.
I like it.
I enjoy it.
I'm excited to watch season two.
I was excited to watch season two no matter what this her being in one scene and it's a
phone call.

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Oh my God.
I'm gagged, gagged, gagged.
I'm so fucking excited.
Nothing has made me happier than her like seeing Samantha on my screen again is going to be
like a miracle.
It is literally a miracle for it's a miracle.
I just can't even get over I texted my mom and she was like, there's no way.

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My mom said the same thing.
My mom was fucking gagged.
Wait, I need to look at the text in my family group chat because my mom literally freaked
out.
I said this killed me.
I cannot believe it.
I truly cannot believe it.
Somebody text me back.
This is major news.
My mom goes no way.
I knew she would with like six exclamation points.
She goes, yay with 20 Ys and four exclamation points.

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I'm so, I just like.
I was like, I can't believe it.
I'm freaking out at work.
She goes, me too.
Oh my goodness.
I can't believe it.
I just want to say what every time we talk about a show something crazy happens fucking
crazy happens.
She fucking manifested this and nobody else better be saying that or claiming that because
we literally, we literally have a way with this podcast.

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It's kind of spooky.
It is spooky.
Like we talked about Glee and then there was the Glee documentary.
Yeah.
The documentary.
Yeah.
Grey's Anatomy was like season 20 and I, what was it fucking?
Ellen Pompeo announced it was her last season.
Yes.
Gilmar Girls.
Well, I don't think anything happened there.
There's not much to happen.

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I'm sure something might have.
But it's just, it's just a little weird.
It is very freaky and eerie.
I'm so happy though.
I'm so, and like, you know what?
I'll take crumbs.
And you know what though?
I have a feel.
It's a slippery slope.
Yeah.
I really truly have a feeling this is going to be like another Laurel Holliman, the L word.

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Laurel said for the life of her a million different ways, a million different times that she was
not going to be coming back for the L word.
She was just like, I'm a painter now.
It's just not going to happen.
I like her paintings.
Okay.
And she's like, it's like, that was a phase in my life.
I'm over it, blah, blah, blah.
Okay.
So what happens?
JenQ gets announced.

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Cool.
I was sad and bummed out.
I'm like, so who the hell is Bet going to be with?
Of course they made Bet and Tina divorced.
Yeah.
Then on like the second to last episode, Tina shows up on her doorstep.
She's like, I'm so fucked up.
And I screamed so fucking loud, but then I was like, oh, it's just going to be this,
these short little cameos.
She's not going to be like, which is like, you know, at that point when you're not expecting

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anything, it's better than nothing.
Right.
But then she was on the second and third seasons and Bet and Tina ended up together.
So it's also just like so gaggy because like reading the articles about Samantha coming
back.
It's like she filmed her scene alone.
She didn't speak to Sarah Jessica or Michael Patrick King.
It's a phone call between a once a phone call between her and Carrie.

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Like she has not, she has fucking beef with these girls.
She, I want to know what was her, they either paid her a hefty coin for it.
What I saw a tweet that said, Oh, HBO Max had to rebrand as just Max because they sold
HBO to pay for this.
Oh my God.
Like the fucking the check must be insane.

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And if, and that might not even be the whole thing.
There might be something else that we don't even know as to like her motivations for doing
this.
Just if it's not the check and then she posted the article on Instagram and she said, happy
pride.
Happy pride.
She did it for the gaze, honey.
She is so mother for that.
She is so iconic.

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She really is.
Oh my God.
I could go on and on about this.
I'm just so happy.
I can't, I can't get over it.
I'm just, I'm genuinely so excited.
It makes me so happy.
Huh.
I kind of, I'm like kind of nervous to know what her scene is though.
Yeah.

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I cannot wait to see it.
Like I'm a little nervous about it.
I, yeah, I'm nervous, but I'm optimistic.
Okay.
It's good that you're optimistic.
I'm feeling a little bit more pessimistic about it.
I feel like it's going to be a fight.
I feel like it's going to be a fight.
And you know what?
I think I'm fine with that.
I think if they're going to end, if they're, if they're truly going to end Carrie and Samantha's

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friendship, which I don't want, but if they're really going to have like a breakup, I want
to see it happen.
I don't want this off sides note.
Like I don't want it to be like off camera in between seasons bullshit.
If they're going to do it, I need that.
I need to see it.
Right.
Like, I think that's only fair.
Yeah.

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We've all witnessed the relationship.
We need to, if it's going to end, we deserve to be.
And you know what?
I'm, I'm, I'm optimistic that it isn't that because I think they handled it as best they
could, leaving a door open for her in the first season.
So I'm hoping this is just an extension of that kind of like a payoff.
Like we've, we didn't treat her badly.

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There was Carrie and her head beef, but at the end they made up.
And Carrie like really wanted to still be friends with her, but Samantha wasn't the
one calling back or answering text.
So I'm hoping that the way it will like shakes out is that Samantha reaches out like she
did in the finale, like a van just like that.
I feel like, you know what's going to happen?
It's going to be Carrie calling her calling her calling her being like, I really need

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your advice, blah, blah, blah, all about Aiden.
And then on the like very last episode or some shit like that, Aiden's going to like
pop the question or something crazy, something crazy is going to happen between Carrie and
Aiden probably and Carrie and Samantha is going to finally call her back.
And it's just going to be Samantha answering the phone, be like, hello.

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And that's like all it's going to be.
Because they made up at the end of season one.
Right.
So they're not on bad terms right now.
No.
So I'm just like with Aiden coming back Miranda in LA for what I'm assuming is not a lot of
the series this season.
My guess is that by episode three Miranda is going to be back in New York broken up with
Che from watching the trailer.

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So I think it's going to be like it's going to be it's going to be a wild season.
I really can't wait.
I'm so excited.
It's premieres in like two weeks.
You know, it's crazy.
I'm going to be in Italy with my entire family when that airs and my family has already agreed
to watch it while we're there.
Hell yeah.
So it's literally going to be like in Sicily on the Airbnb couch like popping open real

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fucking family right there.
Popping open some wine and it's going to be me and my mom and my aunt and Bernie probably
if she wants to watch it.
But she doesn't even watch it.
So I don't know if she'll be in.
She might go down to the she might go down to the beach with my aunt and uncle or some
shit.
I love that.
It's probably going to be like my mom, my grandma, my aunt and me like all on the couch
watching it.

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Oh my God.
I can't wait.
I'm so excited.
Me too.
All right.
Let's jump into the rest of this episode.
So first of all, we need to start with the fact that they are all single and out in the
town for a night together and they all look hot.
They all look hot, especially Carrie and those pink pants.
Yeah.
I need a pair of pants like that.
They all just looks like they're having so much fun.

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Yeah, they are.
Like they're twirling around.
They're dancing.
They're doing tequila shots and Samantha gets hit on by this guy at the bar and she's just
like, no, sorry.
It's just us ladies tonight.
And she's so real for that.
I love her for that.
And Miranda's like surprised and Samantha makes it makes a comment.
What?
I'm not that kind of girl.
She goes, but you really think I'm that kind of girl?

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And it's like, no, actually I, I, I, this makes complete sense to me.
Yeah.
She loves like, she's a whore, but she loves her friends.
Miranda's just being bitchy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that's why we, again, that's why we love her.
So then Carrie like doesn't leave until four in the morning.
Even though she tells them, hey, I have this important photo shoot tomorrow.
I really can't stay out late.
They're like, please stay.
And she's like, you know what?

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Fuck it.
And she stays out until like four AM and walks home.
Which is so real.
And the fur coat with the pants is just iconic.
Fur coat.
Fur coat and like a pair of like nice pants is so chic.
It really is.
And she's very, she looks very good right now for somebody who's just rallied and stayed

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up all night with her friends.
Like, why couldn't she just kept the fur coat on and gone to the shoot like this?
I don't know.
That's why she went to her fucking apartment.
That's the thing.
I'm like, why didn't she just like go and like, why didn't she put the fur coat back
on instead of that ugly ass poncho?
This bitch makes no sense.
The poncho, like I screamed.
Oh, like very ugly.

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Very ugly.
Very ugly.
Okay.
So then she shows up at the photo shoot and what's his face?
His boyfriend is so comfy.
So rude.
He is very rude and aggressive.
I will ask you, Stanford.
Like what do you see in this guy?
Don't let him speak to her like that.

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That's your friend.
Right, like that's literally your friend.
Why aren't you standing up for her?
Then the photographer is also very cunty.
She's like, Carrie's like, do you mind if I smoke?
And she's like, I don't care if you shoot up.
It is crazy how they like, how they talk.
Like a girl.
Fucking aggressive.
Everyone relax.
It is kind of crazy.

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Everyone relax.
Everybody, please.
I kind of like it though.
It's very New York.
It's very New York.
It's very new.
No nonsense.
Also, Carrie was fucking an hour late.
Yeah, I would be pissed at her too.
Well, actually, can I say something?
Yeah.
Yeah, you can.
Okay.
I am the kind of person that likes to be five minutes early.

(26:01):
Me too.
For like, for everything.
Me too.
But I have a lot of friends and relatives that are chronically late and I was raised
by my mother who is chronic.
People tell her that an event starts two hours before it does so she'll get there an hour
late.
That is crazy to me.
She is so late for everything.

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She just can't help it.
That's just the way she is.
And I've grown to actually, I find it kind of endearing.
I, because I don't have to deal with that.
I also find it very endearing in your mother.
It's like, oh my God.
It's like the bumbling, like, late on who's like running in with like a salad and a bottle

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of wine.
She's like, I'm so sorry I'm late.
And everyone's like, it's fine.
Yeah, it's expected.
We're just glad you're here.
See, I did not grow up with that.
Oh my goodness.
I grew up with that.
I'm happy for you to not grow up like that.
Well, the thing is I grew up with the exact opposite.
My dad is like militant about being on time.

(27:03):
Oh, really?
But not even being early, like being on time.
He wants to get there at five.
Yes, like, right at five.
So I'm very much, I want to be there.
I want to give myself five minutes of cushion time.
Cushion.
That's how I see it too.
If I'm running late, if I'm like running, like, the traffic's not on my side, like, especially

(27:28):
being in pedestrian.
For me, I'm always paranoid about parking.
I'm always paranoid about parking.
I'm like, what is the parking situation?
I'm going in blind.
Like, if I need to park around the block, I've got to give myself like an extra couple
minutes to walk there.
And living in cities, like when I lived in Philly, it's like, okay, well, I have to be
here at this time, but the train comes at these intervals and the trains are not always

(27:50):
consistent.
So I need to give myself an extra cushion.
So like, say I have 30 minutes to get there, like, reasonably, I'm giving myself 45.
Yeah.
No, I completely agree.
I operate that way, I will say, the first time I got like mad at Tony was because we
were late to, we were almost missed our train.

(28:13):
Oh my goodness, really?
And I was infuriated.
Like, I was running through Penn Station to catch a train.
And I was mortified.
I feel like there was one time that Bernie and I went through something similar where

(28:36):
it was like we had like a reservation or something like that.
That was really hard to get.
And I was like, I kept telling her, we need to leave the house.
We should have left the house like 10 minutes.
Okay, now we should have left the house 15 minutes ago.
Like we really need to get going because like Bernie is the kind of person who like, she
sometimes gives, she gives herself just enough time.
But if one single thing goes wrong or like something takes longer than it is, it's over.

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And it needed to, like sometimes she'll get carried away with her face routine and she'll
spend way too long in front of the mirror.
And I'm like, baby, you don't understand, like you should have taken a shower an hour
ago.
Why are you still getting ready?
Like I'm sitting here ready to go.
Especially me as a Libra.
I'm ready before you.
That means we are late.
Exactly, especially I'm the low maintenance partner.

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I don't have hair.
I don't have like, all I do is like, like I don't have an extensive routine to get
ready.
I shower, I put some, I cleanse my face, I put some moisturizer on.
I don't have hair.
I, my beard is takes care of itself.
So when I'm like, like I'm like, okay, you shower first.

(29:48):
So then.
Yeah, because you're going to take the longest and I'm going to not take very long.
So while I'm showering, you should be getting ready.
Yeah.
It's like we, there's a way to combat this.
There is.
It's just sometimes it's like so.
It's not easy.
It's not in our control.
No, but yeah, I, I, that I was a little pissy on the train with Tony for about an hour.

(30:13):
I can picture that.
I can kind of picture.
But it was fine.
We made the train and everything.
But yeah, I am like, as someone who is not late and if I am late, I'm mortified.
I would, I would have literally just like been like, Oh, I can't make it.
I'm sick.
Like that would have canceled.
I would have been like, they're not, I'm not showing up.

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Why didn't she look in the mirror before she went there?
Well, I also thought she like, cause her hair doesn't look bad.
She thought that she was going to get makeup done and I thought she was too.
But also like, why would she leave the shoe without questioning it?
If that didn't happen?
Do you get what I'm asking?
Yeah.
It sort of, she mentions it to the photographer.
They're going to be time for makeup and the lady says, yes.

(30:57):
Well, maybe they did because what they, what she was doing was taking photos for like lighting
tests and shit like that.
So maybe like they took those photos, they did the hair and makeup and all that stuff
that we don't see because we don't need to.
And then once they get all the photos back and they're going with the whole article,
then they decide to use the ones because it helps their article if she looks like shit.

(31:21):
Right.
Okay.
That makes more sense.
That's my assumption is that they still did a hair and makeup because Carrie was still
under the assumption that like, she thought it was going to be fine.
Yeah.
She, she, I think she would have been more alarmed and more ex, expecting if they were
like, oh no, that's it.
We got it.
Right.
Like I think she would have probably brought it up.

(31:43):
Yes.
I guess that's why it didn't make sense to me because like we didn't see a scene where
she did bring it up.
So I was like, oh my God, like, yeah.
I think if they hadn't done any hair and makeup, she would have been like, what the fuck?
So my guess is she kind of got duped, which is why she's even more upset.
Yeah, that makes sense.
To which again, but like that I would be upset too if I was in her position.

(32:04):
Me too.
It was really fucked up of them to trick her.
Yeah.
But also like if I'm fucked up, if I look fucked up and you hand me decaf coffee, I'm
pissed off.
Me too.
What the fuck?
Who is this helping?
Who the hell even drinks decaf and why?
Like fucking old people.
Why they just like the taste of coffee?
Literally, believe me.
I don't know.

(32:25):
I'm selling a lot of decaf coffee to people every day.
Really?
Yeah, they're crazy.
They love their decaf coffees, but it's like Carrie's a young lady.
She looks like shit.
Give her some fucking coffee.
Yeah.
Come on.
That's common sense.
Yeah, that's just respect.
All right.
Let's move on.
Yeah.
Carrie, Charlotte and Miranda are all running in Central Park and Carrie's nipples are showing.

(32:52):
The first thing I, the first note I have is Carrie's nipples.
Me too.
And her little leggings.
She looks great.
She looks really cute.
Second of all, she's like, okay, let's take a break because I need a cigarette.
So they literally stop exercising so that Carrie can light one up and Miranda sees this guy

(33:13):
that she apparently used to fake orgasms with.
Yeah.
He runs, he's running by them.
Yeah.
And then runs with them backwards a little bit and then they take their break and they're
like, okay, Spill, he's cute.
Yeah.
And Miranda's like, yeah, he's cute, but I used to fake with him.
So like, I don't know.

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And they're all like, what?
What's the, well, first of all, actually Carrie is the one who's like, why would you fake?
That's fucked up.
Yeah.
And then there's the one who's like, oh, it's not a big deal.
Like if you really like the guy, then faking is fine.
I'm going to be honest.
I've got no personal experience here.

(33:54):
Okay, good.
You haven't faked.
I've never faked.
It's also like harder to fake in my situation.
Yeah.
You know, like it doesn't, and I also think, and this might be wrong.
So people just let us know if we're wrong.
Yeah, please.
I feel like in queer relationships, there's more openness to feedback.

(34:18):
Yeah.
Yes.
Like to me, orgasms are all about communication.
Tell me what you want.
Like 99% of the time, if somebody isn't coming, it's because they, okay, here's my philosophy.
You have to own your orgasm.
Yeah.
If you want an orgasm and the person that's trying to give it to you doesn't know, like
isn't getting it.

(34:39):
You're asked from your elbow, like they're not getting it.
It's up to you to communicate.
The person's not a fucking mind reader.
You need to like take charge.
You should not be like assuming that this person's just going to magically be able to
give you an orgasm.
That is so fucked up.
You shouldn't be on the sidelines of your sexual pleasure.
Yeah.
Speak for what you want.
Say what you want.

(34:59):
Say what you need.
100% agree.
Obviously, there are like hundreds of other reasons why like you can't come.
Sometimes you just can't.
Right.
No.
You're just talking about situations.
I'm just talking about moments like this where somebody feels obligated to fake it.
Yeah.
But then Miranda feels annoyed when the guy isn't making her come.

(35:19):
Yes.
So it's like, you can't be mad at him.
But then she's like, well, first she's annoyed with him and she fakes it.
But then she realizes, okay, this guy's never going to get better unless I talk to him.
And she's like, look, you don't know what you're doing and I'm going to teach you,
which I thought was great.
Which is such a good lesson.
And then I mean, at the end, obviously we see.
She fakes it again because the guy still can't.

(35:41):
He's not taking just direction.
So that is totally his fault.
And like it makes sense that she's annoyed with him.
Some people just don't come from penetration.
Right.
Like if he ate her out and like went to town, I'm sure maybe like maybe we could get there.
Some people just penetration isn't what works for them in an orgasm way.

(36:02):
And it kind of seems like she tried to tell him that and he didn't listen or something.
But you know what, she tried and he seemed to try.
So I respect.
I respect the attempt.
I respect the unit.
I don't think that she should have faked it.
No, I don't think she should have either.
Okay.
But moments like this, to me, it totally makes sense that Miranda ended up gay.

(36:25):
She just frustrated with men and isn't getting what she wants.
It completely makes sense.
She might have gotten it.
And then when she does get what she wants sexually, she's like, oh, I'm in love with
them.
Yeah.
Okay.
Then Carrie goes and gets herself a pack of cigarettes.
Yeah, she does.
And she sees the cover of the magazine.

(36:47):
It's so good.
I want a fucking big ass print of it.
She does kind of look like shit.
She looks like shit.
I do like it.
I like it.
I love that she should have owned it.
I think she should have owned it more.
I think so too.
I think she should have.
I mean, I do like that she makes jokes about it.

(37:07):
Right.
But there is a slight humiliation to it.
Yeah.
Which I could, sorry, Hyond.
Which I completely get.
Yeah, it's embarrassing, especially bitch, it's on the New Yorker.
Like, it's not some po-dunk fucking rag.
Like that's kind of a big deal.

(37:28):
It is a big deal.
So that's why she freaks out.
But then she realizes towards the end of the episode that like, whatever, she's not going
to let anyone stop her from being who she wants to be.
Yes.
I think she's like, I'm not going to let the magazine cover or my friends or the surgeon
general stop me from being who I am.
Is the quote that she uses.

(37:49):
Which is so funny.
So she goes out to lunch with her besties after seeing the magazine cover.
And she's like, I got duped.
She did.
I got tricked.
She said, she said it was single and fabulous exclamation point.
And she's like, that question mark is hostile.

(38:10):
It's so funny.
Punctuation can be hostile.
It's very important.
It is.
She understands that.
She's a writer.
The fact that this was enough to make her want to quit smoking.
Yeah.
And then Charlotte says fuck.
Charlotte says fuck, probably for the first time.
I don't remember her saying it.
Yeah, I can't remember her saying it.
I mean, she doesn't even say anal when they talk about her being up the buck girl.

(38:35):
Right.
So like she says fuck and then Carrie says, Charlotte said fuck.
And then we get a fuck them exclamation point.
Right.
They're all just talking about how fucked up it is that Carrie got tricked and trying
to take her side.
Okay.
So then we cut to Charlotte and she has this boyfriend who's like really good at fixing
her house up and shit.

(38:56):
He's sexy.
He kind of looks like Bob Odenkirk mixed with David Sutcliffe.
You are a genius.
That is so true.
That is such a good like call out or like an automation.
Because I looked at him and I'm like, wait, from that angle, he looks like Bob Odenkirk,

(39:18):
really young Bob Odenkirk.
But then I was like, wait, and when he turns to the side, like his side profile was giving
David Sutcliffe.
Yeah, no, you're so right for that.
So Charlotte's like gorgeous here.
She has a button nose and she just literally looks incredible.
Like yeah, she looks so stunning.
She's the girlfriend.

(39:38):
Every man pictures when they're like 14 and they're like, I'm gonna have a wife someday.
Yeah, she just looks like like she looks like a wife.
She looks like she's modeling in a catalog.
Right.
A catalog wife is exactly how I would describe.
And she's very sexy.
All the guys, most of the guys in this episode are very sexy.

(40:00):
Yeah, the guy, well, I think Samantha's guy was the least attractive to me.
I agree.
I think Miranda's guy is the sexiest visually.
Yeah, I agree.
And then Charlotte and then Samantha.
Wait, what's we're getting about Carrie?
It will get there.

(40:20):
Because it fucking, it, I will get there.
I was like, I know something about you.
I think I know something about you.
I think you like guys with long hair.
I, well, when Tony and I first started talking, I liked their mullet.
I think long hair is very sexy.
I think you have a thing for long hair.

(40:42):
You have to pull it off well though.
I think that's the really, not everyone can pull it off.
That's the thing.
I think it's really sexy when a guy can pull off long hair.
Right.
Because it is so difficult.
But we'll get to fucking, we'll get to him because I was drooling.
Okay, let's move on.
So the crazy part is in the very next scene, Charlotte and Carrie are hanging out and Carrie

(41:09):
looks gorgeous even though she's in like the exact same outfit she was wearing during the
fucking photo shoot.
Well, hopefully this time she had some rest.
Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's crazy to me.
She looks gorgeous.
And then, wait, they're out to lunch, right?
No, they're meeting the, Carrie's over Charlotte's apartment.

(41:33):
Oh, right, right, yeah.
And she's like blowing, she's blowing a bubble on, on Charlotte's bed.
She's like chewing gum because she's trying to quit smoking.
And she meets Charlotte's boyfriend.
And she's like, Charlotte's explaining the whole thing and is basically like, well, he

(41:53):
fixes stuff and he's nice and he's caring.
And I look past the almost 40 out of work actor thing and Carrie's like, you can't build
a relationship on the fact that he could, what does she say?
Like fix your stuff.
Like fix your stuff.
Yeah, like fix your house up.

(42:13):
Charlotte just goes, can't you?
And it's like, I think Charlotte's love language might be acts of service.
Yes.
Because she gets into like a similar situation like.
100%, I agree.
In future episodes.
Yeah, I think it's just like, the way Charlotte works is so traditional.

(42:35):
Right.
Where like when a guy is showing her verbal, like showing his affection verbally.
Just saying stuff.
Yeah.
And we're like, oh, he takes care of me.
He's making sure I'm taking care of by like making sure my VCR is set up correctly.
Rewiring my lamp, doing stuff that I can't do physically or I don't have the skills to.

(42:58):
And also like the sexual aspects like with her and Trey.
Yeah.
Like she needs to be, she needs to feel physically taken care of.
So I think it makes sense that she kind of confuses that for.
Love.
Love or attraction with this guy.
And again, even though he's very sexy and very charming, that's not all it is.

(43:21):
But I am very interested in their kind of storyline of how it ends up with the double
faking.
Agreed.
It's very cute.
I thought that was a cute ending.
And it's not sad, which is nice.
No, it's not.
Yeah.
Okay.
So we're about to lunch and Miranda's like talking about how the guy still is like not

(43:44):
able to figure it out.
Yeah.
She's like, it's my clitoris, not this fink.
It's so funny.
Miranda is good in this episode.
Miranda is good in this episode.
And Samantha is like, oh, if I had a son, I would teach him all about the vagina.
And Kerry's like, if you had a son, we'd call social service.

(44:08):
But it's fucked up because I would love Samantha as a mother.
I think she'd be a good mom.
I think she would be too.
I think she'd be a weird mom.
She'd be very liberated.
But she would like, I think her son would have a lot of respect for women.
She would be very open with her children, like son, daughter, whoever.
Yeah.

(44:29):
She would be very educated and be very, I don't think they would have a lot of like
baggage.
Agreed.
Um, okay.
And then this is the part that annoyed me about Miranda.
She goes, how can you really think that's all it takes about the guy, right?

(44:52):
And Kerry screams because you're faking it.
Exactly.
Like literally, I literally find it so annoying.
Miranda, like Kerry's right.
Kerry is absolutely right.
She has no right to get annoyed with this guy.
Like I get it.
It's frustrating.
You want to have an orgasm.
He's not getting it.
But like, what have you done fixed this situation?
How have you like tried to step up and like change that for yourself?

(45:14):
You haven't.
You're just being very passive.
Miranda is the most passive person on the faking planet.
Yeah.
I find her to be very annoying.
The more episodes we've been watching, the more I realized just how much I don't like
Miranda.
She rubs me the wrong way the most.
I hate when people are like that.
Just say what you want.
Talk about what you need.

(45:35):
Like stand up for yourself.
Have a backbone.
Because then you don't get to push over.
That type of person is such a pushover.
And then in the same breath, it's like, why doesn't anyone know what I want?
Right.
Because she does that with the girls too.
Because she does that with the girls too.
She does that like, well, I think it was last week when she was getting mad at Kerry for
talking about big and all this type of shit.

(45:56):
And it's like, well, if you express to them that you're upset with your life and you're
just like projecting, there would be a lot more understanding.
But you're kind of just being a bitch to your friends.
And they have no idea why.
Because they're not mind readers.
Just like this guy isn't a mind reader.
Like if you want to change your life, say something about it.
Yeah.

(46:17):
Don't just sit there and just accept what's coming to you.
It's like, it's not how it works.
Actually even fucking Charlotte is like pretty forward with what she wants in a way that's
annoying sometimes.
But like she tells Trey like, I knew you to fuck me.
More or less.
Literally.

(46:37):
It's not that hard.
It might be an uncomfortable conversation.
Charlotte might feel weird about it.
But at the same time, she does it anyway because she wants the relationship to improve.
And she knows that she's going to end up continuing to resent Trey if she doesn't say something.
Yes.
And like she vocalizes her needs.
Samantha does it all the time.
Carrie does it all the time.
Miranda is such a Capricorn.

(46:58):
Like they don't say anything until it's the very last second and they like explode like
a rice cooker.
Like they hold it all in until the very last second until it's like unbearable.
And then that's when it all comes flying out.
And it's like too little too late or it's like the worst possible moment and everybody
else has already moved on or like the other person's like, why is this coming out now

(47:19):
and not like three dates ago?
Like when we first had sex and you faked it.
Like she's faked it so many times that literally when she finally tells the truth, the guy's
like, well, what changed?
Like you came the past three times.
Yeah.
It's like, of course he's confused.
Anyway, I find her annoying.
Yeah.

(47:40):
But I want better for her.
Me too.
And then so Samantha's dating this guy who says we a lot.
Like he talks about how they are going to go on a vacation and they are going to do this
and they are going to do that.
And she kind of likes it.
And he says that they're going to go on vacation to the Hamptons.
And the first thing she does is call Carrie and she's like, guess who's going on vacation

(48:04):
to the Hamptons?
And she's like, oh yeah.
And then Carrie's like, wow, he's a we guy.
And she's like, yes.
And she's like, that's okay.
She's fine with it.
Yeah, she is fine with it.
She's like, what?
Right.
And Carrie's like, okay, well, isn't it a little early in the relationship?

(48:26):
And she's like, well, the particular we that I was talking about was me and you actually
about going to vacation because she wants Carrie to come with her.
And a real bitch right there.
Real, real bitch right there.
There's just no way I would bring Miranda and Charlotte.
They bring down the mood and they're both very uptight.
Yeah.

(48:46):
And I just like that she's like, no, bestie, we're going.
Duh.
Duh.
Like I only said yes to him so I could bring you.
And yeah.
And then we, I think we come back to Miranda, right?
Yeah.
It's Miranda showing the guy like, hey, I've never come.
Let's get, let's get to work.

(49:06):
And he puts on his glasses and he's like, okay.
Anything more of the gossips is like just such a slippery slope.
You do it once and then you have to keep doing it forever or you risk having to backtrack
and be like, actually I've been faking it this whole time.
Just don't do it.
It's like a zero, it's a no win game.
And it also feels very dated, media wise.
Like it's not, I don't feel like it's a punchline we see very often anymore.

(49:30):
I know, but you know, which is, I mean, a good thing probably, but I just hope it's not
still happening.
If anybody out there is listening, just communicate with your partner.
I know it might seem scary or awkward to tell somebody that they're doing it wrong, but
I guarantee you 150,000%.
If you're out there faking orgasms, you deserve like financial compensation.

(49:51):
You deserve better.
And I think your partner would probably agree.
I think you're, yeah, I think you, your partner wants to make you feel good.
If you don't tell them that what they're doing isn't working in the, they're not going to,
they're going to resent you.
No, you're going to resent them because everyone's going to resent each other.
You're going to assume that they don't want you to feel good when really what it is, they
don't know that it's not working because you are faking it.

(50:13):
Just communicate and advocate for what you need.
Which is not the lesson taught in this episode.
Right.
Because Miranda again, fakes it in a couple scenes, fakes it in the most insane way I've
ever seen.
And she does it to protect the guy's ego, which felt so icky and not Miranda.
Not in, yeah, not in line with her.
I feel like what we learn about Miranda in season one is not at all true in what we see

(50:38):
pretty much for the rest of the show.
In season one, I feel like we get a very strong, um, second wave feminist, like, lawyerly,
independent woman, no nonsense.
And the rest of the show, we get a deeply insecure, needy, clingy, bitchy mess of a human.

(51:01):
It's such a, it is a, I think the reason it's so noticeable is because of how intense the
shift is.
It literally is.
I, yeah, she just rubs me the wrong way.
Same, and I wish, I wish she didn't.
But it is what it is at a certain point.
Right.

(51:22):
But, um, and that, so enough of her, her storyline over, she's faking orgasms, it's lame.
It's the length of it's over.
Carrie goes out and meets up with Stanford and his bitchy boyfriend and they have a tartini.
They have a tartini, which is like a cranberry margarita, just cute.
Or no, cranberry, uh, martini.

(51:43):
Which sounds lovely.
It sounds delicious, I would order it.
And Carrie gets trashed.
Carrie is drunk off her ass.
Yeah.
And she calls, um, Stanford's boyfriend, Nevin von Bitchy.
And she just thinks she's having so much fun and like wants to, she, I think she might

(52:09):
be overcompensating a little.
Yeah.
I think so too.
I think she's just really trying to have a good night and like find somebody who finds
her beautiful and feel beautiful.
And I think she feels beautiful when she's a little drunk, getting hit on by a bunch
of guys being a little loose because guys come probably come flocking to her when she
acts like that.
Yeah.

(52:29):
I agree.
So it's definitely a little bit of overcompensation, but I think she looks beautiful and if she's
having a good time, I'm happy for her.
Although we find out later in the night, like she really is only, she realizes what she's
doing and she regrets it.
100%.
And then Samantha gets stood up.
Samantha gets stood up.
And it is really sad.

(52:50):
It's really, really, really sad because now we know why Samantha hates relationships.
Yeah.
She's just like not treated well.
It's like the few times that she's let herself be vulnerable like that and like let her guard
down enough to like actually get into these kinds of relationships where the guy is saying
we and they're planning vacations and they're doing stuff like buying each other jewelry

(53:12):
and just like these intense relationships that go beyond sex even a little, she's gotten
hurt.
Yeah.
And then we get with the guy with the small dick.
Richard.
We see him with Richard.
We see it with this guy.
It just doesn't go well and I feel bad.
Poor Samantha.
She deserves so much better.
I like the younger guy that she dates, Smith.

(53:35):
Remember?
Yes.
Well, yeah, that's, um, Smith chair, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It ends well there.
They end emicably in the movie.
I think they had a good relationship.
I think so too.
And I think when they do end it makes sense.
It's not really her being neglected or not.
I mean, she's just getting what she wants, but she's fine.

(53:57):
But yeah, she gets stood up and she cries and she's a little drunk.
And the best boy was so smitten with her.
He was like, it was very sweet.
It was.
But she tells him no.
And then we come back to Carrie and she's so drunk that she spills an entire drink on
this guy's lap.
And he's like, oh, and he's like over her and he walks away and she's like, well, fuck

(54:19):
you.
So funny.
And, um, Stanford's like, okay, you little tartini, I think we'd better get you home because
you are wasted.
And she's like, no, I'm staying.
I want to like hook up with a hot guy.
And he's like, everyone here is gay.
And she's like, I don't think so.
So he leaves and she's sitting there and then who walks in fucking Bradley fucking Cooper.

(54:45):
His name was Jake.
He was everything I was looking for that night.
He's so fucking hot in this episode.
He looks really attractive.
I think it's the greasy hair.
It's the greasy hair.
It's like the drunk smoker eyes.
Like they make out he they fall on people.
They go for a ride.
He's like, do you want to go for a ride in my Porsche?

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And she's like, fabulous.
Oh, God.
And they go.
And he's like, I got to get some smokes.
And he's like, he looks so hot and his eyes are bloodshot.
He look, oh my God.
I was like, Bradley Cooper, I don't think he's ever looked sexier than this.
Right.
I think he peaked here.
It's so like late 90s dirt bag straight guy.

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Like, oh my God, he looks so hot.
But he does something.
He looks like a delinquent.
Yeah.
He looks like a bad boy, which we see that he is because he does something diabolical.
Drives drunk with Carrie in the car.
He grabs the magazine.
Besides that.
Oh.
And he slams it against the window.
And he's like, is this you?
And she's mortified.

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And then she's like, she's like, I have to go.
And he's like, no, I'm not letting you leave.
And she just crawls off, like steps off the back of his car.
And it's just like so, she could tell she's so upset.
And he's just kind of standing there and like he's such a dickhead.
He literally is.
And it's crazy.

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He looks really attractive though.
And it completely makes sense that Carrie would like gravitate towards him in a bar
or like want him in that moment because like he does look like the kind of guy that would
like fawn over her.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
He looks so sexy and she makes it a point in her inner monologue.
She kind of says she's like, if I sleep with this guy after this, this will be the first
time in my life that I sleep with a man for validation.

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And I'm glad that she doesn't do it.
But like, I would understand if she did.
Agreed.
Like he's fucking hot.
He is.
So I could not blame her.
And then we get the very next scene that we get is the very iconic, very screenshoted

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moment of Carrie sitting alone at a bar.
Actually she's at a restaurant.
And Matthew Morrison is her waiter.
She's so me.
It's so crazy every time.
Completely random.
And he's like, are you expecting anyone?
She's like, nope, just me.
And she says, so I sat there and had a glass of wine alone.
No books, no man, no friends, no armor, no faking.

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I love that because you know what?
Eating alone in New York, best thing in the world.
Eating alone, I love eating alone.
I love eating alone.
I love going to the movies alone.
I love eating alone.
But it's just like, it's nice to see Carrie doing that at peace with herself here.
Exactly.
And not afraid to be herself, not afraid to show her face in public when she was for

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a while.
And she just looks happy.
She looks healthy.
Yeah, it's very nice to see her in a good place like that.
Exactly.
I love this episode.
It's so much fun.
I love this episode.
It was a really good one.
I'm so glad you picked it.
Me too.
It's kind of like an under, I feel like it's not one that gets talked about as much.

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I think it's like has an iconic moment or.
It has iconic moments that get talked about a lot.
But the episode is over.
But the episode is over.
Overall.
Yeah, I agree.
I love it.
But yeah, it was fun to watch.
It was very fun to watch.
And talk about.
I agree.
Okay, everyone, well, thanks for listening.
We are actually going to jump over and start recording our next episode.

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We got a double whammy, but you're not going to know that.
Yeah, it doesn't matter to you.
But.
You're listening to them one at a time.
But I think you'll like that one too.
Next week we're going to be doing one of Victoria's favorites.
I can't wait for y'all to hear it.
I think you're going to like it because it's literally one of the best episodes.
It was so much fun to watch.

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I love that episode.
All right.
Bye, y'all.
Thanks for listening.
Bye bye.
Oh my God, he's online.
Can you see me?
What the hell is she talking about?
Who's this?
It's right here.
It's to Angelina please.
No, she died.
Don't call me just.

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No, who is this?