May 17, 2023 • 52 mins
Sit back, relax, and light up a cigarette for this week's episode. Victoria's pick for all-time favorite episode of SATC: Big and Carrie's affair finally comes to an end after Natasha catches Carrie at their apartment. Also, Miranda falls in love with a sandwich, and Samantha has a very de-stigmatized, sex-positive storyline about getting tested for STIs!
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Hello, hello!
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So what, no fucking Ziti now?
Don't make me laugh.
Hi, welcome to You Know That Episode. I'm Trev.
And I'm Victoria. We're two friends who watch too much TV.
We break down iconic episodes of good shows.
And bad.
And explain why we feel the way we do.
Today we're talking about season 3, episode 11 of Sex and the City,
titled Running with Scissors, which aired on August 20th, 2000.
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And this is one of... this is your first pick.
Yep. This is my top favorite episode.
This is my number one Sex and the City episode.
This episode is so stacked.
It has so many fucking good moments.
It has amazing sex positive conversations.
It has flirtiness.
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It has Carrie in her like cheater era.
And like just the height of her drama in her relationship with Aiden.
And her relationship with Big.
It's so good.
It's just such a good fucking episode.
It's bonkers how good it is.
It is literally so good.
I was watching it and Tony came in at the last scene.
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Oh my god.
And I was like I almost can't watch it.
It's so cringe.
It's one of the most cringiest, hardest moments of TV history to ever watch.
It's so... and we'll get to it, obviously.
I scream every time I watch it. I literally scream out loud.
It's so tense. It feels like a horror movie.
It does. It really does.
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It is horrifying to see her do that.
Oh my god. It's so upsetting.
I just... but this episode is so good.
I'm so glad you picked this one.
Yeah. My all time favorite episode.
Perfect episode title too.
Running with Scissors.
Because that's what this is like.
Remember last week we were talking a little bit about how I was saying how Miranda and Carrie's relationship is so complex.
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Yes.
And how the first person Carrie tells about the affair is Samantha.
Yes.
And she knows she can't tell...
Charlotte.
Charlotte because she's like in marriage land and like the most like devout bride ever to be born.
But the reason she can't tell Miranda is because she knows Miranda is gonna fucking freak out and judge her for it.
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Yeah.
And this is the episode where she finally does tell Miranda and that to me I have so many notes on that section of the episode because it just highlights what I was saying last week.
But anyway.
I really love that scene.
We'll get to it once we start like going scene by scene.
But just I love how different each friend reacts.
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Yep.
So like Samantha is obviously gonna be the most down.
She's gonna be the least judgmental.
Samantha barely cared and Carrie was like aren't you gonna judge me even a little and she's like that's not my style.
Yeah.
She's just like it isn't.
She's the one that's gonna give you the most room for mistakes.
And Carrie even asked her like God why does- how does something so bad feel so good and Samantha's like honey it always does.
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Yeah.
She's the most real with I mean they're all real with her in very different ways and in ways that she needs.
Yep.
I think if you're looking at them just as is it's so surprising how level headed Miranda reacts.
That is not what Carrie was expecting at all.
You expect Miranda to act like to like blow up at her.
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Carrie what were you thinking.
Yeah.
Why weren't you like something is your head something.
Yeah.
A lot of a lot of reaction.
We're like Charlotte we know isn't gonna be like she's gonna feel a certain type of way but she's not gonna.
She's gonna hide how she feels.
Yeah she's gonna be more just wasn't appropriate for her to react in front of big.
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It wasn't appropriate for her to like explode at Carrie in the middle of the street.
Yeah.
The person who's gonna hold it in and later on when you guys are together in her apartment she's gonna.
She's gonna be honest with you and I'm glad like I think that Charlotte scene is my favorite scene in the episode.
Mine is.
Yeah.
Honestly that scene is really good but I also really love the the end scene.
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Yeah.
The hard the hard to watch.
Oh it's so good though.
But yeah I just like moments.
It's so iconic there's so many iconic moments like the Samantha trying to go through her sexual partners and saying I'm counting.
Yes.
The sandwich guy.
We meet Anthony for the first time.
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First meeting Anthony.
You know what I really also the scene that I love like I shouldn't love it but I do.
The scene right before he leaves the apartment and he's like give me the fucking phone I'm gonna call her right now.
Oh she's like no don't.
And he's like what you don't want me to call because you're still in love with that other guy and she's like oh my god no we need to jump into this episode.
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Yeah let's just go.
Okay okay so we open on him eating us we open and big eating a strawberry at this bougie ass hotel so their affair starts off luxurious.
High end.
Decadent high end like she's pretending to be like an escort that's come to meet him.
Like it's also sultry and toxic and just like decadent and very like horny.
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Yeah it's so horny.
There's like it's sexy it's still romantic.
Yeah.
So it's understandable that they they're riding that high.
Yeah they're like still in that like oh it feels so forbidden and good.
Yeah.
And then they downgraded a little bit like the next hotel she shows up and she's just kind of wearing a dress and she's like you can't just keep changing the time you know because I have a fucking life and he's like I'm sorry yeah but let's get this show on the road I only have 45 minutes before I have to get back to work.
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It's like okay so they're kind of treating it like they're back in a relationship a little bit like at this point it's becoming kind of a chore like oh god.
Business as usual.
Business as usual sort of thing and then they downgrade to a fucking motel like a seedy looking hotel.
Rent by the hour.
Smoking a cigarette he's he's eating a cheese cracker in bed like they they look really sexy.
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Yes.
Like they look tussled they look undone they look sweaty they look extraordinary.
Terry looks especially sexy in this episode.
Yeah she does especially the scene of her in the white tank top and the men's underwear.
Oh my god if I could wear that outfit in public.
Unreal.
You would look so high.
She looks literally perfect.
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Honestly you would look good in all of her wardrobe.
Thank you.
That is one of the highest compliments I could have been ever paid.
Yeah I just think you have like you have the essence.
I definitely I definitely like some of her outfits in this episode particularly.
Like.
Like the flippy dress that she wears when she comes outside from the hotel and bumps into storage.
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Oh my god I think that's one of my favorite looks she's ever had.
Like her hair is so perfect the glasses.
Her hair is perfect in this episode.
Yeah.
I think that's what's making it all.
Yes.
The real hair of it all is definitely making it.
It's style to perfection.
And also she's smoking cigarettes again.
Yeah.
Okay secretly the scene where she looks the best is when she's on the phone with Miranda
smoking out the window.
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Yes.
And she just looks so casual and like her skin is perfect.
Her hair is perfect.
She's like radiating in this episode.
I honestly think like maybe she got a tan or something.
Carrie looks the best when she's making bad decisions.
Oh god.
That's sad.
It's true though.
So Big Leg gets annoyed.
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She's like it's so hot in this hotel like I can't breathe.
And he's like you're the one who chose it.
And she's like well I chose it because we're on 56th and 8th and nobody knows us here.
Yeah.
And it's also like New York in the summer.
Yeah.
And he's like I don't give a fuck who sees us.
And she's like yes you do.
He's such a man.
Yeah.
He's so annoying in this moment.
And it's like Carrie what are you doing?
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Like.
It's just like the whole episode is me like I mean the whole episode watching it I just
don't understand what she's doing.
Me either.
And OK.
He's he he's like why don't you just go and talk to your boyfriend about it or whatever.
Yeah.
And she's like no you don't talk to me that way.
And it's like she's right because he's being toxic and he's being a jackass.
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Yeah.
But at the same time why the fuck would she do this because like he's the same person.
He hasn't changed at all.
Exactly.
And it's even worse now because now she knows he's the kind of guy that would cheat on Natasha
which means really he's the kind of guy that would cheat on.
Which is also like it hasn't he admitted that he cheated on his exes like his other ex wife
too.
Yeah.
He's a cheater.
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And so like I just don't understand how she could want him more now.
Yes.
It doesn't make sense.
He's just like nothing he's bringing to the table is like worth this.
I agree.
He's not sexy enough or like.
I just don't get it.
I don't understand her attraction to him.
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It's almost like she is like hypnotized.
It's like self harming.
Yeah.
Like she knows that it's bad for her but she doesn't care.
Or like.
Which I mean I get who hasn't been there.
Yeah.
But yeah it's hard it's so hard to like be on her side in this episode.
Yeah it is because like we don't see what she sees in him.
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At all.
You know what I mean.
I don't really see him as just like this normal ordinary maybe even less than ordinary.
Like I think he's a scumbag.
Yeah I agree.
I just have never.
She's ruining her life for a scumbag.
I don't get it at all.
I just don't find big attractive in any sort of way.
Me either.
Nothing he's bringing to the table.
Nothing.
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So then it cuts over to Miranda.
Carrie's at the bar with Miranda and she's like listen to her explanation with Miranda.
This is what I was getting at last week.
She says I have something to tell you and you're not going to like it and believe me
I would rather tell anyone but you.
And I believe her.
And she already has.
She's told Samantha first.
But I have to.
And Miranda goes OK.
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And she goes because I need your help.
And remember last week when I said it was almost kind of like motherly the relationship
that Miranda and Carrie have because like Carrie often asks Miranda permission to do
something or like tells Miranda when she's about to do something bad almost hoping Miranda
will stop her.
Yes 100 percent.
That's a perfect perfect example of it because it's like she's like a guilty child.
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She's like yes she knows what she's doing is bad and she needs someone to slap her on
the wrist.
She goes I'm having an affair with big and Miranda goes I swear to God I think my heart
stopped and she goes also I'm smoking again.
I'm smoking and I'm sleeping with big so feel free to delete me out of your palm pilot.
And it's like she knows and has come to expect Miranda's judgment and relies on that to snap
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her out of her worst behavior.
She also can't tell Charlotte because she knows that Charlotte's going to be judgmental
of her but not say anything where Miranda is not going to be judgmental of her but she's
going to give her her honest opinion.
Like Charlotte's not going to hurt her feelings where Miranda is going to hurt her feelings.
Exactly.
And she needs that.
She does.
She needs somebody to snap her out of it and she even says that she goes I'm in the middle
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of this and I can't see so I need you to yank me out of it.
Which I mean like again I totally understand like when you're in the middle of something
it's so hard to like to see see the forest for the trees you know.
Yep.
She's so wrapped up and she's thinking about how this is going to hurt Aiden and big and
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Natasha and all this but she can't stop herself.
It's like she's like an addiction.
She honestly she is.
She is a little addicted.
Yeah.
And the whole cigarette allegory is like the perfect.
100%.
Like not only is she like OK let's just talk about cigarettes and big and smoking and big.
They're tied to.
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They're so tied to him and she even says that.
And I think it's just literally become like a symbol at this point.
When she smokes she's with big and when she's with big she's harming herself.
Yeah.
And when she's with Aiden she's not smoking for the most part.
He tries to get her to stop meaning he's trying to heal her.
He's trying to make her better and try.
Yeah he's expecting more like something else out of her.
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Yes and no.
But not in a bad way.
It's not in a bad way at all.
He like wants her to do better for herself if anything.
Yeah.
And he loves her and he wants her to heal.
Right.
Yes.
So she stops smoking.
Immediately she goes back to big.
Immediately she starts smoking again.
And that's why in this conversation with Miranda she goes not only am I sleeping with big
I'm smoking again.
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Like she knows.
She knows that there's a correlation here.
Yeah there's they're bad.
They're both bad for her and she wants to stop both of these behaviors.
And so she goes so Miranda goes what about Aiden.
And it's like yes exactly.
What about Aiden.
Finally someone's asking the right question.
Exactly and this is one of the few moments where I really agree with Miranda's approach
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because she's like Carrie's like I just don't know.
Like what does it all mean and everything.
Does he only want me because he can't have me.
And Miranda's literally like point blank yes.
And it's.
Yeah.
Oh right.
I have an ex who used to be like this.
The minute I was happy with somebody else or just on my own she came running back every
time.
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Everybody has like she couldn't.
She couldn't bear to see me be happy without her in my life.
And it made her want me back.
I think she realized like what she was missing in a way.
Yeah.
But it's also like.
Well I won't pretend to know why the fuck they do that actually.
If my ex is listening don't reach out to me and tell me why.
But I think a lot.
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I think a lot of it and that type of that type of person especially like looking at
someone like big he's so unhappy with his life where at least if he and Carrie are doing
this thing they can be unhappy together.
God.
He like if he if she's if he's unhappy she needs to be unhappy too almost.
So it's a it's a mutually assured destruction.
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He wants her.
Yeah.
Misery loves company.
Also he I think he thinks if if he can't have her nobody else should either.
Yeah.
And I think that's why he wants her all to himself in a way.
He has he doesn't want to actually commit to her.
So that's why he wants her to be at his beck and call.
He doesn't want to actually be with her.
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He just wants the option when he's bored or he needs someone to like make him feel good.
He wants her all the way but he doesn't want the commitment that it's going to take from
him.
Yes.
Do you get what I mean?
Absolutely.
He wants her to be there for him 100 percent but he doesn't want to have to be there for
her 100 percent.
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And I would say Carrie's insecure enough to feed into that in a way that like it doesn't
seem like Natasha is.
Yeah.
Natasha doesn't seem insecure.
She feels she her character she feels incredibly sure of herself.
Right.
Like she went to the Hamptons by herself.
She's she's very like she's not the kind of person who's going to like bend over backwards.
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No.
And she and her pedigree is so different from Carrie where it's like Natasha comes from money.
She's very waspy.
She's a yuppie.
She's like she's of a different world that Carrie isn't which is why it's like Carrie
is Carrie is the dirty other woman.
She's yeah she's around with her ex boyfriend and she have and have sex with him even though
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he's married.
She's not the girl you marry.
Yeah.
Oh.
And she's not the girl you introduced to your mom on church.
Exactly.
And that has been that is Carrie's entire identity in her relationship with big from
the beginning.
She feels like a secret.
The episode that they go to the rest the Szechuan restaurant and she thinks he's a secret.
He doesn't introduce himself or her her to his mom.
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He never wants to commit to marrying her.
But the minute he finds this young waspy affluent white woman he's ready to marry her and be
with her after three months.
She's like she's the girl you marry.
Charlotte is the girl you marry.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And I think that's what member last week I literally said he wants he wants to marry
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sure.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Remember last week when I said that.
Yeah.
That's what I just feel like.
Yes.
I think and it also makes so much sense that in this episode Carrie would be like I can't
tell Charlotte and Charlotte finds out and of course she makes it all about you're the
other woman.
I mean you're my maid of honor.
How could you do something like this?
What would you do if somebody did something like this to me?
And it's perfect because she's literally tying herself to Natasha like but it's also when
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you see someone being harmed or hurting themselves or whatever and they're treating themselves
like that you almost have to pull them out of it by being like how would you feel if
someone did that to me.
You care so much about me.
But and you would never let someone do that to me.
So why is it OK if it's happening to you.
And I think that's kind of Charlotte's idea.
She she's also being selfish because it's crazy and like naturally you're going to be.
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But I think that's where a lot of it is coming from where it's like she carries so distressed
and so upended by this affair.
But she can't stop herself and her friends are like what like in the scene with Miranda
Miranda's literally says oh God what does she say.
She goes like you need to stop.
She's like what do you.
She says like what do you want.
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That's literally what she says.
She's like what do you want.
Do that.
She's like it's not about what Aidan wants.
Obviously you don't think you and Big doing this is a good idea.
So you need to take the steps to stop.
And she can't do that.
And unfortunately it ends bad.
She hits rock bottom.
That's the only way for her to get out of it.
Sometimes that is the only yeah.
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Sometimes rock bottom is the only way.
It's a one two punch of Charlotte finding out and then Natasha.
Natasha is the only.
The two people she doesn't want.
She's more nervous about Charlotte finding out that she is about Aidan finding out.
Yeah.
OK.
So moving forward Miranda's like he only wants you because he can't have you.
Exactly.
And she's like you just need to stop.
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OK.
And then Carrie's like OK I am.
I'm stopping.
But she literally doesn't stop for like until the very end of the episode.
And she ends up marrying him in the future.
So she never really stops.
So stupid.
So then we cut over to Samantha and she's at a bar and she meets the male Samantha.
And honestly I'm not going to lie.
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He's hot.
And he gets hotter.
He even gets hotter and they start they speak in sync.
Yeah.
They're both like my places and then they start laughing because they've done the routine
so many times.
He's like we know the same people.
We go to the same places.
We could go out for dinner.
Do you want to fuck.
She's met her match.
Honestly I wish this is something that we saw fleshed out more which I guess we kind
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of do with is it Richard that she dates eventually who's kind of like a womanizer in the same
way Sam is like a slut quote unquote.
But he's like no Sam does it ethically though.
Yeah.
She cheats on her.
No I agree.
I think it would have been more interesting if we see Sam date someone like this guy.
Yeah.
I mean if this show was made now in the way it was then we would see Sam date this guy
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and they would have an open relationship.
For sure.
And that would be so much more interesting than what the relationship Samantha does get.
I agree.
But yeah he's hot.
He's hot.
So she goes back to his place and they're about to go on a sex swing.
But then he's like when was the last time you got tested for HIV.
And she's like never basically.
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Yeah.
And like this conversation is so important like really important.
It's really impressive too.
It is like this is happening in the 2000s and he's like anybody who has as much sex
as us needs to be.
And there's no shame.
None at all.
He still tries to keep it sexy.
It's not like he like sits her down and like looks into her eyes and is like he doesn't
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like your paperwork.
Right.
He doesn't lecture.
He keeps it sexy.
He keeps it lighthearted and he's just like look I really want to fuck you.
I think you're really hot but you need to get tested and we're not having sex until
you do.
But not in those words.
Yeah but more or less.
And I also think it's important that one she doesn't feel embarrassed or demeaned or anything
by his questions.
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If anything she's just nervous which is reasonable.
And not only that but like he makes it optional.
Yes.
He's not like we're going to do it now.
He's like if you want to have sex with me this is what I need.
He sets clear boundaries with her.
And it's amazing that he like the man is the one bringing it up.
Bringing up this aspect of sexual health especially at this time frame where like straight men
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I mean even in the early 2000s straight men were not aware of this.
They thought like people still thought only gay people could get HIV and AIDS.
So for a straight man to be bringing this to this incredibly sexually positive sex positive
woman it's amazing.
This whole storyline is incredible.
This entire storyline had me like so impressed with the writing on this show.
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This was an amazing moment.
This is such an important moment.
I love it so much.
And it's good that for the women who are watching this at the time.
So good for them.
To be educated in this way and see straight relationships dealing with this type of thing.
Yeah.
Fuck.
The show is so good.
It was talked about so frankly and like how it goes throughout the whole episode.
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It's just it's really impressive and it made me really appreciate this episode even more.
Me too.
Because I forgot about this part.
Yeah.
This is one of my favorite moments in the episode for sure.
Okay.
So then we move over to breakfast and Charlotte's all worked up about her wedding dress.
She's on a tear.
She's on a tear here and Samantha is the one that drops these bombs in the middle of breakfast
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and Charlotte is always the one who gets annoyed by it.
Like they're polar opposites.
They're literally polar opposites.
Charlotte could not be more stuck up and like anal about stuff.
Samantha could not be more like easy going.
Imagine a man trying to have that conversation with Charlotte.
I can't even picture it.
It would never have.
It would have short circuited her brain.
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And especially.
She would have probably fainted.
She would have been in the middle of a tear about all of the wedding dresses and things
like that.
And Samantha's just not having it.
I mean I was on Samantha's side of this.
Charlotte needed to shut up.
She was fucking annoying me.
She was annoying.
She's like Samantha asks good questions.
She's going to her support system of like okay have you guys dealt with this?
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Carrie and Miranda are both very honest with her.
And they're also a little shocked by the fact that she hasn't.
They assume that she has.
Yeah.
I mean all the all intents and purposes Samantha it would make sense that she had.
But like especially.
They probably would have gone to her with this question.
One hundred percent.
They didn't know that she hadn't been tested.
It's also like as someone like as a gay man who has had a lot of sex.
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That first test is really scary.
Especially at the beginning when you're learning about your sexual health and everything like
that.
I mean like getting tested in general is a scary thing just because.
It is scary.
It is scary because you're like who knows.
Even if you have nothing going on it's still scary.
Even having something that's treatable is still scary.
You still have to kind of deal with it.
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For at this point in 2000 it was terrifying.
It was more.
It wasn't.
It was a death sentence.
Because at that time it was a death sentence.
Yeah.
And it's like it's one of those things where so many people were felt like.
There was also a huge stigma around talking about it and like just even the idea of like
just like even just talking about it.
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Especially for straight people and straight women.
Because it's like they're underserved.
People assume that they can't get it.
And you're having this whole.
There's so many people who would go through life and be like well if I don't know I don't
have it.
It's almost better not knowing for sure.
Oh my god.
Which is so scary but I mean given the circumstances you can't even blame people.
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So then for Miranda and Carrie to be like well yeah of course we've had I've had two
tests she's had three tests.
It's scary.
It's nerve wracking.
And it's a death for people who are you're there and they get the bad news.
You know it's still they're honest with her in a way that doesn't they're not trying to
make her be more scared or anything but they're being realistic.
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Yeah.
And they also don't demonize or stigmatize HIV.
They just say like I feel really bad for.
Yeah.
I've seen somebody get pulled back and get the bad news and you know it's really hard
to watch that but you have to do it.
Exactly.
If you're going to be doing this if you're going to be with people you need to be smart
about it.
And they don't make her feel guilty for sexual activity.
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Or make her feel guilty for not having been tested.
It's not what they were expecting.
But I especially think with like sexual health and like STD testing and STIs and all this
stuff guilt associated with getting tested is so prevalent.
So it's good that they weren't like making her feel worse for not having been tested.
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She was already kind of embarrassed.
When she talked to him about it.
So it's like.
Yeah.
She knew her girls weren't going to judge her.
Yeah of course.
Which is the same reason that Carrie tells Samantha about the big affair.
And the same reason she doesn't tell Charlotte.
Because Charlotte reacts.
And Charlotte is so fucking annoying too.
She's the only one here who is literally like Samantha we're looking at wedding dresses.
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Can you not talk about AIDS right now?
Like she is the least supportive in this moment.
All she cares about is herself.
It was just annoying me to the extent of like.
Yeah.
That Charlotte was really annoying.
I was wondering like I do not understand brides who go nuts like this.
It just is so not me at all.
I could never be involved in someone's wedding if they acted like this.
I have preferences and ideas for my wedding but I'm never going to be the kind of person
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who's like shut up about your thing and make it all about me.
Especially when it's like I would I would feel differently if they had all agreed to
meet and talk specifically about the wedding.
If they was at Charlotte's house or if it was they went to check the gowns with her
instead of Anthony you know whatever.
But it's like no they're having breakfast like they always do.
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This is their ritual.
This is where they all talk about things.
They all bring things up.
So it's like it's an open.
The open it's an open floor.
Yeah exactly.
Yeah I agree.
All right.
So moving on Miranda's walking by the sandwich shop and there's a guy in a sandwich suit
and he says eat me and it pisses her off.
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She snatches the paper out of his hands and she walks away.
She's pissed off.
Yeah.
I love this is one of my favorite Miranda's scenes like across the series.
I love this moment.
She's so funny and like self-righteous and thinks she's above this guy in the sandwich
suit.
So like she has so many moments like this with men randomly like with.
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Yeah she does.
In a season one episode I forget which one she has it with the construction workers when
she's going to blockbuster.
Exactly.
Can I say something without being judged.
Miranda is the George Costanza of sex in the same.
100 fucking percent.
She's pathetic in like an endearing way.
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Yeah she's pathetic in a kind of sexy way.
Yeah it's like there's something kind of like there's just something so weird about her.
She's a sexually weird person.
Yes because you're like she's just.
You're like kind of attracted to her but you're also like why is she kind of nerdy and also
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she's kind of weird.
Why is she such a bitch.
Yeah.
Yeah I 100 percent agree I think that's like a perfect assessment.
Who's.
Okay so then we.
Oh go ahead.
Is Samantha Elaine.
No because.
Is Charlotte Elaine.
Elaine is like a girl boss fail.
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Carrie's Jerry.
I think Carrie's Jerry I think Samantha is.
Okay.
So what would that make.
So who's left.
Charlotte is Elaine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That actually checks out.
That checks out.
That works for me.
Yeah.
I need to rewatch Seinfeld.
I love that show.
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I've never seen it all the way through in like a sitting.
Oh I have.
I've only seen it like watching it as it was on.
My family grew up watching it.
When my family moved to the United States like immigrated here that was like the show.
My.
They watched it.
It was my grandpa's favorite show.
I love it.
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It was always on.
Yeah I love it.
It's I need to watch the whole thing.
It's considered the funniest show of all time.
I believe that from what I know.
Yeah.
I find it funny even years later.
I still find some episodes funny and some moments funny like truly funny.
Okay moving on we got our first Anthony Marantino appearance.
He goes bride shopping with Charlotte.
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He's so sexy.
I love Anthony.
I love an angry New York Italian.
His personality rubs me the right way.
He's yelling at the lady.
He's like telling her what she's doing.
She's like hates it.
Move on.
You're dragging.
And you know what we see this in the episode.
He is exactly who you want in this scenario.
Period.
Miranda was I mean Samantha was so right for recommending Charlotte.
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You need someone like an Anthony especially when you're working in these like really upper
class expensive scenarios where they will jerk you.
Yeah if they can't get jerked around.
He's the person that you would want to like go car shopping.
Yes.
If they smell fear they'll take advantage of it.
And Charlotte has fear.
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So you know they in the voiceover you even hear it's like Anthony was the overbearing
Italian mother Charlotte always wanted.
Yeah.
And it's true.
It's just I love him.
I love where I love.
I love that this is how his character is introduced.
Me too.
And I love that he becomes even closer with Charlotte as the series goes on because he
could have easily been a one episode one or two episode random insert.
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I'm glad he wasn't.
Me too.
She needs a friend outside of the group that is like kind of harsh.
Yeah.
OK so then we cut over to Samantha at the appointment at the doctor's appointment and
the doctor is asking her all kinds of questions and Samantha's answer to everything is yes.
She's like have you done this.
Yes.
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Have you tried that.
Yes.
Have you used this condom.
Yes.
Have you used this.
Yes.
Sometimes it is so it feels so embarrassing.
Yeah.
Getting the questions and they're like have you done this.
Have you done this.
And you're just like yeah yeah yeah.
And you're like especially people who work in those types of clinics and in doctor's
offices like they're not judging you.
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No they're not but they need to know all that information in order to take care of you but
like but it feels like they're judging you.
You would assume that they would because you just assume that they would.
When you're answering those kinds of questions you assume anybody who's hearing the answers
is judging.
There's a the place I go is literally two blocks from my house and I there's the one
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nurse there and I'm obsessed with her.
She's this like hippie dippy old lady and she is the sweetest.
She's just like she's so no nonsense.
She's so like cool.
She feels like if Phoebe Buffet was an RN.
Oh my god I was going to say is she like Frankie from Grayson.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
She's very that and she's just like the sweetest she makes you feel so good and like has been
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doing this for decades.
And like honestly support your local sexual health clinics.
They are doing it to all the nurses out there.
Truly they are doing the Lord's work.
They are so underserved so underpaid and they are they are trying so hard.
We love you all.
But I love this scene.
This is how it is.
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This is what it feels like.
This is a good news.
This is a really good scene.
And Samantha looks great.
Samantha looks amazing as per usual.
No surprise there.
Then we cut over to Carrie and Aiden and Carrie's like fucked in the head.
Yeah the scene is really sad.
How could she not like the sound of her boyfriend moaning.
She literally tells him to stop.
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She's like stop making that noise.
And he's literally like what noise.
And she's like stop.
Stop making that noise.
Like it's just I understand there's something bigger going on internally with her but like
God just be nice to him.
It's almost like she's frustrated by how nice and loving he is because she feels like she
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doesn't deserve it.
She knows she doesn't deserve it.
And so she finds herself getting annoyed with it.
And also I think part of it is like she doesn't want him to make that noise because it turns
her on and she only wants to be turned on by big at that moment.
Yeah and she's also just like the whole time thinking about big.
Yeah even if it's so fucked up.
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It's very fucked up.
And then he even like he gets up and he starts to like move away from her and he's like I'm
going to give you space.
And she like freaks out and is like no like love me take me back.
I'm sorry.
Forgive me.
Please don't be mad at me.
And it's like she's such an annoying bitch in this moment.
Like it's her fault that he's doing this.
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Yeah.
It's her fault that he feels this way.
And then he gets up to leave and she's like no I take it back.
I didn't mean it.
And it's like bitch.
What do you want?
Yeah.
She's annoying me.
She annoys me so bad.
Me too.
And it's just like poor Aiden is caught.
Yeah poor Aiden.
He doesn't deserve this.
And he looks so he also looks so sexy.
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His hair looks so good.
Yeah they both look so hot.
Oh my god.
What's going on in this episode?
Everybody looks fucking hot.
Except big.
Period.
He's basic as hell.
He looks like shit even in the first scene.
Yeah I agree.
But I like I just would never let Aiden out of my house.
Carrie there's nothing hotter than Carrie in a loose white tank top and a baggy pair
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of men's underwear.
I will like would devour her if that was my girlfriend.
Yeah.
Okay.
So moving on to Miranda.
Miranda is such an uptight bitch.
Like it is not that big of a deal mama.
He's saying eat me.
She's acting like he said like sit on my face right now behind the alleyway and like he
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did not say he said eat me.
And he's in a sandwich.
If anything he's just doing his job unenthusiastically.
And she's freaking out.
So but then she's kind of attracted to him and it's so George Costanza it's just like
the weirdest shit like she calls Carrie on the phone right after and she's like I don't
know I'm kind of kind of into him.
And Carrie's like are you telling me that you're attracted to a sandwich?
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And she's like I think so but I don't think I can have sex with a sandwich can I?
When she says oh you're so brave inside your sandwich.
One of my favorite lines in the whole series.
Yeah she's like take your she's like take let me see your face.
And she thinks he's kind of cute but she decides not to go forward because she's like I mean
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what could they have in common?
She was a lawyer and he was a sandwich.
It's so like there's so many moments like that.
Yeah there are.
In this episode.
There are.
Like that Samantha saying I'm counting.
Just so many funny moments.
The Japanese businessman thinks I'm a hooker.
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She looks like a hooker.
This scene of her waiting for him in that lobby wearing those sunglasses made me and
my entire family buy gold Ray-Ban aviator sunglasses.
That's so chic.
I still have my pants.
She looks so good.
She looks so fucking hot.
Carrie in like a tight mini dress.
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Carrie in any kind of tight garment tight dress wearing hair down sunglasses and big
earrings.
Those big gold earrings.
I just can't get over her.
She looks hot.
I mean she always does but she looks really hot here.
It's just she just looks perfect.
This is like this is what people think when they think Carrie Bradshaw.
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This is what people think when they think of like 90s it girl.
Yeah.
Just like tousled hair.
She had the wardrobe.
She had the undone effortless like she just has something.
She's literally just something she did.
You can't buy this.
You can't buy this.
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Moving on they go outside.
She's like I'm leaving I can't.
And he runs after her and when she gets out there she bumps into Charlotte.
She's like Carrie what are you doing in this neighborhood?
And then Carrie looks up and Big walks out at that very moment.
That's when Charlotte realizes.
And she's like oh I just dropped my dress off at the tailors and I'm going home now
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bye and she leaves.
And Carrie's like Charlotte and she tries to run after her but like Charlotte's too
quick so she gets pissed off at Big and shoots him an angry look as if it's his fault that
they're cheating.
Like it's both of y'all stupid ass faults Carrie.
Like anyway.
It's just so it's Charlotte is the only one who acts appropriately.
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I agree.
I love the scene.
I love the scene of Charlotte and Carrie.
Yeah the next the very next scene is Charlotte talking to Carrie about why it was fucked
up that that happened.
And like and like Carrie knows she's right.
It's like okay wait that wasn't the very next moment.
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Right.
Or is it maybe.
Yeah it was it was.
Yeah it's the very next one.
Okay so Charlotte is very right about the fact that like there is another person to
consider and there's multiple extra people to consider and she hasn't been doing that.
And it's really toxic and also trying to snap her out of it by being like what would you
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do if somebody did this to you or if somebody did this to me.
Yeah.
And I think that kind of helps Carrie understand a little bit better but not all the way.
No.
Obviously she still doesn't stop because the scene right after that.
Well we see Samantha and the guy in the sex swing so we're happy for her.
Yeah.
Personally I would be scared of ripping that tiny anchor out of the sea.
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Understandably.
It's just literally not even on a beam.
It doesn't seem to be on a like stud or anything like that.
It's just like literally inserted into the ceiling.
I've never been in one that was just in the ceiling.
Like it needs to be attached to like a beam.
My only experience is ones that are have like their own four posts kind of like a bed thing.
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Oh kind of like a hammock.
Yeah so they're like their own free standing structure.
That's a good idea.
Yeah.
That's more seems more safe than that.
And I think that's how they're sold more so these days because like they're easier to
take down like move and all that stuff.
And also like if you fall out of one of these like they did you could like break your tail
down.
Yeah you could get you could really hurt yourself.
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I'm speaking of safe sex like Samantha now you got now that you're doing one part of
the safe sex how about you do the other part of the safe sex.
Oh that's the thrill.
Oh my god.
I also like yeah I love the scene of Charlotte.
No just to be clear I'm in support of sex swings but I'm saying the manner in which
this one is.
Yeah get the right yeah get TaskRabbit have someone install your sex swing appropriately.
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Please.
Yes.
I mean you can use anchors and all that and then go to town.
It's a blast.
All right.
So then we come up upon Carrie's lowest moment in the history of sex.
It really is.
This is the lowest of the low.
This is the most disgusting despicable thing that she has ever done and ever will do.
So she's in bed with big again and he's out of bed.
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He's putting his tie on getting ready for work.
She's at their apartment.
Why is she meandering.
She is literally eating the food out of their so fucking fridge.
Okay like look that is the lowest of the low.
You're eating their food out of their married ass.
You're the groceries they bought together and wrote.
It's not even their groceries.
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It's more disrespectful.
It's their leftover Chinese.
Yeah that is hurtful.
It's just like I if okay in the beginning like this scene when they're like she's like
we have to stop that and he goes.
She's a pig she's a piece of shit in this episode and he's like fine I'll call her
right now and she stops him and it's just like first of all she goes she goes the other
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guy has a name and it's Aiden.
Oh really.
So now you fucking care about him.
How about 10 minutes ago when you were literally sucking this guy's dick and cheating on him.
It's just like she pretends.
I think the most infuriating thing about this whole episode is that to absolve herself of
the guilt she feels she's pretending like she actually cares how this is going to affect
Aiden and Natasha when and not only that but she pretends that big is somehow worse than
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she is when they're both cheating.
They're both cheating cheating and big is the one more ready to be honest.
Yeah weirdly enough big is more ready to be like fine let's just fucking do it.
He says it a couple of times he's like I don't care who who fucking sees us and then in this
one he's like give me the fuck he doesn't have shame about this.
No shame.
He's ready to end it all because he also he's in a he's in a relationship that's not fulfilling.
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The thing about Carrie is her and Aiden are happy or happy we're happy together.
And also he's so good to her.
He's so good to her.
He only wants the best for her.
And it's just like another thing if I was literally in my ex boyfriend's apartment that
I just had sex with and like he's married I would be out before the condom was off.
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Like get the fuck out of there.
Why are you hanging out there?
Why are you sit why are you hang you should leave with him.
Yeah I don't even I can't even imagine being comfortable.
No apartment comfortable enough to stay around walk around in her bra shower eat their leftovers.
Oh my god and the panic when the time when the time Natasha opens the door.
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Oh my god I can feel myself.
I was sweating.
It's so it feels like a horror movie.
I can't watch that scene is so hard to watch.
I literally cringe and like scream.
I like watch.
I can watch this to scream through it yeah I can scream through it.
I literally was like like I couldn't believe it.
It still works.
It's so hard to watch.
It's so upsetting.
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I feel so bad for Natasha.
Me too but before we talk about Natasha in that moment we do need to say one more little
note that I have is this question that he asks her that is just like so narcissistic.
It's like the ultimate narcissist question.
He says that he wants to call Natasha right.
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And she puts the phone in front of him and she's like okay do it like calling his bluff
and he goes if I make that call are you going to be there for me.
And when he said that I literally saw red.
I literally felt flames on the side of my face.
I was like flames flames flames.
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I literally wanted to strangle him because like that question you know he's only asking
that question because he wants her to make the hard choice.
He's saying like yeah he doesn't.
He has no shame but he needs her to pull the trigger.
He's not willing to do it and that's what I was trying to say before.
He wants he wants her to be 100% there for him but he doesn't want to have to do the
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same thing for her.
100%.
He's so disgusting.
Oh Carrie what the fuck are you thinking bitch.
I just don't get it.
I don't get it.
I don't understand what.
I don't get her.
I don't get it.
Me either.
And she eating the food out of the fridge like I just can't watch.
Fucking disgusting.
If this is me.
If I was Natasha.
No if I was Carrie I would have jumped out of the fucking goddamn window.
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I would yeah.
The minute I heard that door open I literally would have jumped out the window.
Bitch if I was Natasha.
There would be a knife in my hand.
I'll just start with that.
I would not be the one going to the hospital.
I would be going to jail.
Let that be the fuck known.
I would I would not be going to the hospital.
How would it like that's the thing.
Natasha she was raised right.
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Because how the fuck was she did she not have fistfuls of Carrie's hair.
She was right on her heels.
She was right on her heels.
She was trying to.
She was trying to.
Bitch grab her.
She was trying to.
Fuck her up.
She fucking busted her face.
She busted her face.
Beat her ass.
Carrie is so insane for the scene for that moment where she tries to meet up with Natasha
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again and apologize to her.
Oh that's one of my favorite scenes.
I love that episode.
And at the same time I hate it though because Carrie is so obsessed with getting that that
um like that.
She wants to be absolved of her mistake.
She does it in this episode too with Aiden.
Yeah.
Aiden tries to leave and she immediately is like don't be mad at me.
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Forgive me.
Like don't hold this against me.
And she can't let him be mad at her for even a second.
It's the most one of the most annoying things about Carrie is how she needs everyone to
forgive her right away.
She's that's her biggest character trait.
I think so.
So in the scene where Natasha and Carrie have lunch do you know what Carrie's wearing?
She's wearing the Galeano newspaper dress.
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Yes she fucking is bitch.
I love that dress.
And like oh one of the most iconic.
If I saw my ex-husband's girlfriend ex-girlfriend wearing that dress after we had broken up
I would hate her even more.
I would literally die.
I would kill her.
Yeah.
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I would fucking kill her.
We hate her.
I hate her so bad.
The thing is I love Carrie so much.
I do.
But she is the fucking villain in her own story.
She's hateable in this episode in particular.
I don't agree with people.
I don't agree with people who say that she is always the villain though or that she's
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always the problem.
Like I think Carrie has redeeming qualities.
I see a lot of like her and me and I understand some of the shit she does.
And like for that reason I don't think she's always a villain but I think at the same time
like there's no such thing as a perfect character.
Yeah and there shouldn't be.
Yeah they're boring personally.
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Like if you hate a character because they make mistakes then you like boring TV.
That's just a fact.
Oh I just love Carrie.
She's such a monster.
She's such a monster.
And Natasha's like I see you.
Wait stop I'm talking to you.
And then boom she crashes her face into the ground and she comes looking up all bloody
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and Carrie's like oh my god and they all run out stairs to get a taxi and go to the hospital.
So Carrie's waiting for Big at the fucking hospital right and he shows up.
And it's like this is the worst thing that has ever happened on the TV show I think.
Like this is this is this is like earth shattering.
Like watching this makes your stomach drop.
You feel like you're right there with Carrie.
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So Tony and I were watching the scene and Tony's never seen this episode.
What.
Tony's ever only ever seen the first season.
Oh my god.
And they're going back and forth and when Carrie says we're so over we need a new word
for over.
I turned to Tony and I was like that's like the most iconic line in the whole show.
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It's legendary.
It's legendary like people have that tattooed on their bodies I'm pretty sure.
I literally said to Tony this is what people get tattooed.
Oh my god are you kidding me.
I said this is what people get tattooed when they like for a sex like it's.
I literally think they would.
I think they would.
Either that or the post it.
I wait bitch.
And then I literally was like this is the sex in the city tattoo I want to get and I
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showed a picture of the post it.
Oh my god I know you so well.
You should get matching post it tattoos.
I hate the post it and I hate burger.
I would never get that.
But it's so fucking iconic.
I would get like a Samantha quote probably or like a Carrie quote.
Yeah I want to get the post it.
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I want to get it little somewhere.
I think you should.
It's so funny.
But yeah that's how I was describing it.
One of the most amazing episodes of TV of all time.
Ever.
It's so good.
And then when Carrie leaves the hospital.
Carrie leaves the hospital she goes we're so over we need a new word for over.
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This was her wake up call.
How she doesn't immediately tell Ada when she sees him I don't know.
How could she just lie like she waits.
She waits until right before the merit that Charlotte's wedding.
She goes home to Aiden.
She's just like I spent the day at the museum and I'm going to go watch.
Lying through her teeth.
How could she lie like that.
I don't understand people who are that good at lying.
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Do you have a soul.
It's just heartbreaking.
I feel so bad for Aiden.
I feel so bad for Aiden.
I don't understand how people don't like Aiden.
I don't.
There's people out there who don't like Aiden.
I don't want to hear from you.
I don't want to know you.
I have no interest in getting to know you.
Please do not reach out.
This is not a safe space for you if you don't like Aiden.
Straight up.
Big people like just fucking block our podcast.
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You're not allowed to listen to our podcast.
I love Aiden.
I feel so bad for Aiden.
He's just like he gets no respect.
How could anybody in their right mind or wrong mind like Carrie and Big after watching this
episode.
How?
How?
I don't know.
They're just so disgusting.
Despicable.
How could you like them as a couple after watching this.
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I don't get it.
I just don't get it.
I don't get it.
It blows my mind.
It blows my fucking mind.
I just they're not there's but it's also like you know what they're meant for each other
because they're so toxic.
Yeah.
No.
I want better for her.
I do too but she doesn't.
She belongs with Aiden.
She does but she doesn't believe that.
I think Carrie has I think we talk a lot about how Miranda has really low self-esteem.
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I think Carrie has.
Carrie has.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel.
In a way that is like Miranda can sometimes be combative and self-pitying because of her
low self-esteem.
Carrie is self-destructive.
Yeah.
She doesn't believe that she deserves good because she's not good or like you know what
I mean.
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So of course she's going to want to be with Big because Big is also an asshole and will
never give her the real respect she deserves.
Right.
All right.
Well that concludes this episode.
So good.
So good.
I'm so glad I chose it.
Me too.
Next week we're talking about one of yours.
So what episode are we watching next week?
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So we just talked about it a little bit.
We're going to be talking about season three episode 17.
Oh my god another season three episode.
And it's the episode where Natasha and Carrie have lunch.
Oh my god that's your favorite episode of all time?
Yes.
Oh my god I'm shocked.
I can't wait to watch it.
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We'll talk about it.
We'll talk about it.
I can't wait.
I'm so excited.
So originally I was going back and forth between this and another one and like I love the original
one I was thinking of doing but it's just I think this episode that we're going to be
talking about next week perfectly exemplifies Carrie.
Oh my god I can't wait to watch it.
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I'm excited to talk about these two back to back.
It's like one of the first times we're going to be like kind of ending a narrative in the
podcast.
And you know what I have another season three episode.
I do too.
And you do too.
I think I'm the only one who has something from season six.
Yeah I don't have anything from season six.
I have two from season three, one from season two, and one from season four.
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I have two from three, one from two, one from six, one from four.
Honestly season three is my favorite.
It's my save rate season.
I think it is.
It's mine too.
I think it's mine too.
It just has everything.
It has everything.
Please watch next week's episode.
This is a show where you have to watch the episode.
Yeah guys we're not fooling around this season.
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We really want you all to watch.
It's so much more fun.
Yeah please watch it.
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Bye bye.
Bye.
Oh my god he's online.
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Can he see me?
What the hell is she talking about?
Who's this?
Can I speak to Angelina please?
No she died.
Hello, hello!
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So what, no fucking Ziti now?
Don't make me laugh.
Hi, welcome to You Know That Episode. I'm Trev.
And I'm Victoria. We're two friends who watch too much TV.
We break down iconic episodes of good shows.
And bad.
And explain why we feel the way we do.
Today we're talking about season 3, episode 11 of Sex and the City,
titled Running with Scissors, which aired on August 20th, 2000.
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And this is one of... this is your first pick.
Yep. This is my top favorite episode.
This is my number one Sex and the City episode.
This episode is so stacked.
It has so many fucking good moments.
It has amazing sex positive conversations.
It has flirtiness.
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It has Carrie in her like cheater era.
And like just the height of her drama in her relationship with Aiden.
And her relationship with Big.
It's so good.
It's just such a good fucking episode.
It's bonkers how good it is.
It is literally so good.
I was watching it and Tony came in at the last scene.
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Oh my god.
And I was like I almost can't watch it.
It's so cringe.
It's one of the most cringiest, hardest moments of TV history to ever watch.
It's so... and we'll get to it, obviously.
I scream every time I watch it. I literally scream out loud.
It's so tense. It feels like a horror movie.
It does. It really does.
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It is horrifying to see her do that.
Oh my god. It's so upsetting.
I just... but this episode is so good.
I'm so glad you picked this one.
Yeah. My all time favorite episode.
Perfect episode title too.
Running with Scissors.
Because that's what this is like.
Remember last week we were talking a little bit about how I was saying how Miranda and Carrie's relationship is so complex.
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Yes.
And how the first person Carrie tells about the affair is Samantha.
Yes.
And she knows she can't tell...
Charlotte.
Charlotte because she's like in marriage land and like the most like devout bride ever to be born.
But the reason she can't tell Miranda is because she knows Miranda is gonna fucking freak out and judge her for it.
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Yeah.
And this is the episode where she finally does tell Miranda and that to me I have so many notes on that section of the episode because it just highlights what I was saying last week.
But anyway.
I really love that scene.
We'll get to it once we start like going scene by scene.
But just I love how different each friend reacts.
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Yep.
So like Samantha is obviously gonna be the most down.
She's gonna be the least judgmental.
Samantha barely cared and Carrie was like aren't you gonna judge me even a little and she's like that's not my style.
Yeah.
She's just like it isn't.
She's the one that's gonna give you the most room for mistakes.
And Carrie even asked her like God why does- how does something so bad feel so good and Samantha's like honey it always does.
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Yeah.
She's the most real with I mean they're all real with her in very different ways and in ways that she needs.
Yep.
I think if you're looking at them just as is it's so surprising how level headed Miranda reacts.
That is not what Carrie was expecting at all.
You expect Miranda to act like to like blow up at her.
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Carrie what were you thinking.
Yeah.
Why weren't you like something is your head something.
Yeah.
A lot of a lot of reaction.
We're like Charlotte we know isn't gonna be like she's gonna feel a certain type of way but she's not gonna.
She's gonna hide how she feels.
Yeah she's gonna be more just wasn't appropriate for her to react in front of big.
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It wasn't appropriate for her to like explode at Carrie in the middle of the street.
Yeah.
The person who's gonna hold it in and later on when you guys are together in her apartment she's gonna.
She's gonna be honest with you and I'm glad like I think that Charlotte scene is my favorite scene in the episode.
Mine is.
Yeah.
Honestly that scene is really good but I also really love the the end scene.
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Yeah.
The hard the hard to watch.
Oh it's so good though.
But yeah I just like moments.
It's so iconic there's so many iconic moments like the Samantha trying to go through her sexual partners and saying I'm counting.
Yes.
The sandwich guy.
We meet Anthony for the first time.
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First meeting Anthony.
You know what I really also the scene that I love like I shouldn't love it but I do.
The scene right before he leaves the apartment and he's like give me the fucking phone I'm gonna call her right now.
Oh she's like no don't.
And he's like what you don't want me to call because you're still in love with that other guy and she's like oh my god no we need to jump into this episode.
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Yeah let's just go.
Okay okay so we open on him eating us we open and big eating a strawberry at this bougie ass hotel so their affair starts off luxurious.
High end.
Decadent high end like she's pretending to be like an escort that's come to meet him.
Like it's also sultry and toxic and just like decadent and very like horny.
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Yeah it's so horny.
There's like it's sexy it's still romantic.
Yeah.
So it's understandable that they they're riding that high.
Yeah they're like still in that like oh it feels so forbidden and good.
Yeah.
And then they downgraded a little bit like the next hotel she shows up and she's just kind of wearing a dress and she's like you can't just keep changing the time you know because I have a fucking life and he's like I'm sorry yeah but let's get this show on the road I only have 45 minutes before I have to get back to work.
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It's like okay so they're kind of treating it like they're back in a relationship a little bit like at this point it's becoming kind of a chore like oh god.
Business as usual.
Business as usual sort of thing and then they downgrade to a fucking motel like a seedy looking hotel.
Rent by the hour.
Smoking a cigarette he's he's eating a cheese cracker in bed like they they look really sexy.
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Yes.
Like they look tussled they look undone they look sweaty they look extraordinary.
Terry looks especially sexy in this episode.
Yeah she does especially the scene of her in the white tank top and the men's underwear.
Oh my god if I could wear that outfit in public.
Unreal.
You would look so high.
She looks literally perfect.
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Honestly you would look good in all of her wardrobe.
Thank you.
That is one of the highest compliments I could have been ever paid.
Yeah I just think you have like you have the essence.
I definitely I definitely like some of her outfits in this episode particularly.
Like.
Like the flippy dress that she wears when she comes outside from the hotel and bumps into storage.
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Oh my god I think that's one of my favorite looks she's ever had.
Like her hair is so perfect the glasses.
Her hair is perfect in this episode.
Yeah.
I think that's what's making it all.
Yes.
The real hair of it all is definitely making it.
It's style to perfection.
And also she's smoking cigarettes again.
Yeah.
Okay secretly the scene where she looks the best is when she's on the phone with Miranda
smoking out the window.
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Yes.
And she just looks so casual and like her skin is perfect.
Her hair is perfect.
She's like radiating in this episode.
I honestly think like maybe she got a tan or something.
Carrie looks the best when she's making bad decisions.
Oh god.
That's sad.
It's true though.
So Big Leg gets annoyed.
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She's like it's so hot in this hotel like I can't breathe.
And he's like you're the one who chose it.
And she's like well I chose it because we're on 56th and 8th and nobody knows us here.
Yeah.
And it's also like New York in the summer.
Yeah.
And he's like I don't give a fuck who sees us.
And she's like yes you do.
He's such a man.
Yeah.
He's so annoying in this moment.
And it's like Carrie what are you doing?
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Like.
It's just like the whole episode is me like I mean the whole episode watching it I just
don't understand what she's doing.
Me either.
And OK.
He's he he's like why don't you just go and talk to your boyfriend about it or whatever.
Yeah.
And she's like no you don't talk to me that way.
And it's like she's right because he's being toxic and he's being a jackass.
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Yeah.
But at the same time why the fuck would she do this because like he's the same person.
He hasn't changed at all.
Exactly.
And it's even worse now because now she knows he's the kind of guy that would cheat on Natasha
which means really he's the kind of guy that would cheat on.
Which is also like it hasn't he admitted that he cheated on his exes like his other ex wife
too.
Yeah.
He's a cheater.
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And so like I just don't understand how she could want him more now.
Yes.
It doesn't make sense.
He's just like nothing he's bringing to the table is like worth this.
I agree.
He's not sexy enough or like.
I just don't get it.
I don't understand her attraction to him.
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It's almost like she is like hypnotized.
It's like self harming.
Yeah.
Like she knows that it's bad for her but she doesn't care.
Or like.
Which I mean I get who hasn't been there.
Yeah.
But yeah it's hard it's so hard to like be on her side in this episode.
Yeah it is because like we don't see what she sees in him.
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At all.
You know what I mean.
I don't really see him as just like this normal ordinary maybe even less than ordinary.
Like I think he's a scumbag.
Yeah I agree.
I just have never.
She's ruining her life for a scumbag.
I don't get it at all.
I just don't find big attractive in any sort of way.
Me either.
Nothing he's bringing to the table.
Nothing.
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So then it cuts over to Miranda.
Carrie's at the bar with Miranda and she's like listen to her explanation with Miranda.
This is what I was getting at last week.
She says I have something to tell you and you're not going to like it and believe me
I would rather tell anyone but you.
And I believe her.
And she already has.
She's told Samantha first.
But I have to.
And Miranda goes OK.
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And she goes because I need your help.
And remember last week when I said it was almost kind of like motherly the relationship
that Miranda and Carrie have because like Carrie often asks Miranda permission to do
something or like tells Miranda when she's about to do something bad almost hoping Miranda
will stop her.
Yes 100 percent.
That's a perfect perfect example of it because it's like she's like a guilty child.
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She's like yes she knows what she's doing is bad and she needs someone to slap her on
the wrist.
She goes I'm having an affair with big and Miranda goes I swear to God I think my heart
stopped and she goes also I'm smoking again.
I'm smoking and I'm sleeping with big so feel free to delete me out of your palm pilot.
And it's like she knows and has come to expect Miranda's judgment and relies on that to snap
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her out of her worst behavior.
She also can't tell Charlotte because she knows that Charlotte's going to be judgmental
of her but not say anything where Miranda is not going to be judgmental of her but she's
going to give her her honest opinion.
Like Charlotte's not going to hurt her feelings where Miranda is going to hurt her feelings.
Exactly.
And she needs that.
She does.
She needs somebody to snap her out of it and she even says that she goes I'm in the middle
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of this and I can't see so I need you to yank me out of it.
Which I mean like again I totally understand like when you're in the middle of something
it's so hard to like to see see the forest for the trees you know.
Yep.
She's so wrapped up and she's thinking about how this is going to hurt Aiden and big and
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Natasha and all this but she can't stop herself.
It's like she's like an addiction.
She honestly she is.
She is a little addicted.
Yeah.
And the whole cigarette allegory is like the perfect.
100%.
Like not only is she like OK let's just talk about cigarettes and big and smoking and big.
They're tied to.
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They're so tied to him and she even says that.
And I think it's just literally become like a symbol at this point.
When she smokes she's with big and when she's with big she's harming herself.
Yeah.
And when she's with Aiden she's not smoking for the most part.
He tries to get her to stop meaning he's trying to heal her.
He's trying to make her better and try.
Yeah he's expecting more like something else out of her.
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Yes and no.
But not in a bad way.
It's not in a bad way at all.
He like wants her to do better for herself if anything.
Yeah.
And he loves her and he wants her to heal.
Right.
Yes.
So she stops smoking.
Immediately she goes back to big.
Immediately she starts smoking again.
And that's why in this conversation with Miranda she goes not only am I sleeping with big
I'm smoking again.
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Like she knows.
She knows that there's a correlation here.
Yeah there's they're bad.
They're both bad for her and she wants to stop both of these behaviors.
And so she goes so Miranda goes what about Aiden.
And it's like yes exactly.
What about Aiden.
Finally someone's asking the right question.
Exactly and this is one of the few moments where I really agree with Miranda's approach
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because she's like Carrie's like I just don't know.
Like what does it all mean and everything.
Does he only want me because he can't have me.
And Miranda's literally like point blank yes.
And it's.
Yeah.
Oh right.
I have an ex who used to be like this.
The minute I was happy with somebody else or just on my own she came running back every
time.
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Everybody has like she couldn't.
She couldn't bear to see me be happy without her in my life.
And it made her want me back.
I think she realized like what she was missing in a way.
Yeah.
But it's also like.
Well I won't pretend to know why the fuck they do that actually.
If my ex is listening don't reach out to me and tell me why.
But I think a lot.
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I think a lot of it and that type of that type of person especially like looking at
someone like big he's so unhappy with his life where at least if he and Carrie are doing
this thing they can be unhappy together.
God.
He like if he if she's if he's unhappy she needs to be unhappy too almost.
So it's a it's a mutually assured destruction.
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He wants her.
Yeah.
Misery loves company.
Also he I think he thinks if if he can't have her nobody else should either.
Yeah.
And I think that's why he wants her all to himself in a way.
He has he doesn't want to actually commit to her.
So that's why he wants her to be at his beck and call.
He doesn't want to actually be with her.
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He just wants the option when he's bored or he needs someone to like make him feel good.
He wants her all the way but he doesn't want the commitment that it's going to take from
him.
Yes.
Do you get what I mean?
Absolutely.
He wants her to be there for him 100 percent but he doesn't want to have to be there for
her 100 percent.
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And I would say Carrie's insecure enough to feed into that in a way that like it doesn't
seem like Natasha is.
Yeah.
Natasha doesn't seem insecure.
She feels she her character she feels incredibly sure of herself.
Right.
Like she went to the Hamptons by herself.
She's she's very like she's not the kind of person who's going to like bend over backwards.
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No.
And she and her pedigree is so different from Carrie where it's like Natasha comes from money.
She's very waspy.
She's a yuppie.
She's like she's of a different world that Carrie isn't which is why it's like Carrie
is Carrie is the dirty other woman.
She's yeah she's around with her ex boyfriend and she have and have sex with him even though
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he's married.
She's not the girl you marry.
Yeah.
Oh.
And she's not the girl you introduced to your mom on church.
Exactly.
And that has been that is Carrie's entire identity in her relationship with big from
the beginning.
She feels like a secret.
The episode that they go to the rest the Szechuan restaurant and she thinks he's a secret.
He doesn't introduce himself or her her to his mom.
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He never wants to commit to marrying her.
But the minute he finds this young waspy affluent white woman he's ready to marry her and be
with her after three months.
She's like she's the girl you marry.
Charlotte is the girl you marry.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And I think that's what member last week I literally said he wants he wants to marry
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sure.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Remember last week when I said that.
Yeah.
That's what I just feel like.
Yes.
I think and it also makes so much sense that in this episode Carrie would be like I can't
tell Charlotte and Charlotte finds out and of course she makes it all about you're the
other woman.
I mean you're my maid of honor.
How could you do something like this?
What would you do if somebody did something like this to me?
And it's perfect because she's literally tying herself to Natasha like but it's also when
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you see someone being harmed or hurting themselves or whatever and they're treating themselves
like that you almost have to pull them out of it by being like how would you feel if
someone did that to me.
You care so much about me.
But and you would never let someone do that to me.
So why is it OK if it's happening to you.
And I think that's kind of Charlotte's idea.
She she's also being selfish because it's crazy and like naturally you're going to be.
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But I think that's where a lot of it is coming from where it's like she carries so distressed
and so upended by this affair.
But she can't stop herself and her friends are like what like in the scene with Miranda
Miranda's literally says oh God what does she say.
She goes like you need to stop.
She's like what do you.
She says like what do you want.
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That's literally what she says.
She's like what do you want.
Do that.
She's like it's not about what Aidan wants.
Obviously you don't think you and Big doing this is a good idea.
So you need to take the steps to stop.
And she can't do that.
And unfortunately it ends bad.
She hits rock bottom.
That's the only way for her to get out of it.
Sometimes that is the only yeah.
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Sometimes rock bottom is the only way.
It's a one two punch of Charlotte finding out and then Natasha.
Natasha is the only.
The two people she doesn't want.
She's more nervous about Charlotte finding out that she is about Aidan finding out.
Yeah.
OK.
So moving forward Miranda's like he only wants you because he can't have you.
Exactly.
And she's like you just need to stop.
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OK.
And then Carrie's like OK I am.
I'm stopping.
But she literally doesn't stop for like until the very end of the episode.
And she ends up marrying him in the future.
So she never really stops.
So stupid.
So then we cut over to Samantha and she's at a bar and she meets the male Samantha.
And honestly I'm not going to lie.
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He's hot.
And he gets hotter.
He even gets hotter and they start they speak in sync.
Yeah.
They're both like my places and then they start laughing because they've done the routine
so many times.
He's like we know the same people.
We go to the same places.
We could go out for dinner.
Do you want to fuck.
She's met her match.
Honestly I wish this is something that we saw fleshed out more which I guess we kind
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of do with is it Richard that she dates eventually who's kind of like a womanizer in the same
way Sam is like a slut quote unquote.
But he's like no Sam does it ethically though.
Yeah.
She cheats on her.
No I agree.
I think it would have been more interesting if we see Sam date someone like this guy.
Yeah.
I mean if this show was made now in the way it was then we would see Sam date this guy
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and they would have an open relationship.
For sure.
And that would be so much more interesting than what the relationship Samantha does get.
I agree.
But yeah he's hot.
He's hot.
So she goes back to his place and they're about to go on a sex swing.
But then he's like when was the last time you got tested for HIV.
And she's like never basically.
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Yeah.
And like this conversation is so important like really important.
It's really impressive too.
It is like this is happening in the 2000s and he's like anybody who has as much sex
as us needs to be.
And there's no shame.
None at all.
He still tries to keep it sexy.
It's not like he like sits her down and like looks into her eyes and is like he doesn't
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like your paperwork.
Right.
He doesn't lecture.
He keeps it sexy.
He keeps it lighthearted and he's just like look I really want to fuck you.
I think you're really hot but you need to get tested and we're not having sex until
you do.
But not in those words.
Yeah but more or less.
And I also think it's important that one she doesn't feel embarrassed or demeaned or anything
by his questions.
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If anything she's just nervous which is reasonable.
And not only that but like he makes it optional.
Yes.
He's not like we're going to do it now.
He's like if you want to have sex with me this is what I need.
He sets clear boundaries with her.
And it's amazing that he like the man is the one bringing it up.
Bringing up this aspect of sexual health especially at this time frame where like straight men
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I mean even in the early 2000s straight men were not aware of this.
They thought like people still thought only gay people could get HIV and AIDS.
So for a straight man to be bringing this to this incredibly sexually positive sex positive
woman it's amazing.
This whole storyline is incredible.
This entire storyline had me like so impressed with the writing on this show.
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This was an amazing moment.
This is such an important moment.
I love it so much.
And it's good that for the women who are watching this at the time.
So good for them.
To be educated in this way and see straight relationships dealing with this type of thing.
Yeah.
Fuck.
The show is so good.
It was talked about so frankly and like how it goes throughout the whole episode.
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It's just it's really impressive and it made me really appreciate this episode even more.
Me too.
Because I forgot about this part.
Yeah.
This is one of my favorite moments in the episode for sure.
Okay.
So then we move over to breakfast and Charlotte's all worked up about her wedding dress.
She's on a tear.
She's on a tear here and Samantha is the one that drops these bombs in the middle of breakfast
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and Charlotte is always the one who gets annoyed by it.
Like they're polar opposites.
They're literally polar opposites.
Charlotte could not be more stuck up and like anal about stuff.
Samantha could not be more like easy going.
Imagine a man trying to have that conversation with Charlotte.
I can't even picture it.
It would never have.
It would have short circuited her brain.
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And especially.
She would have probably fainted.
She would have been in the middle of a tear about all of the wedding dresses and things
like that.
And Samantha's just not having it.
I mean I was on Samantha's side of this.
Charlotte needed to shut up.
She was fucking annoying me.
She was annoying.
She's like Samantha asks good questions.
She's going to her support system of like okay have you guys dealt with this?
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Carrie and Miranda are both very honest with her.
And they're also a little shocked by the fact that she hasn't.
They assume that she has.
Yeah.
I mean all the all intents and purposes Samantha it would make sense that she had.
But like especially.
They probably would have gone to her with this question.
One hundred percent.
They didn't know that she hadn't been tested.
It's also like as someone like as a gay man who has had a lot of sex.
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That first test is really scary.
Especially at the beginning when you're learning about your sexual health and everything like
that.
I mean like getting tested in general is a scary thing just because.
It is scary.
It is scary because you're like who knows.
Even if you have nothing going on it's still scary.
Even having something that's treatable is still scary.
You still have to kind of deal with it.
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For at this point in 2000 it was terrifying.
It was more.
It wasn't.
It was a death sentence.
Because at that time it was a death sentence.
Yeah.
And it's like it's one of those things where so many people were felt like.
There was also a huge stigma around talking about it and like just even the idea of like
just like even just talking about it.
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Especially for straight people and straight women.
Because it's like they're underserved.
People assume that they can't get it.
And you're having this whole.
There's so many people who would go through life and be like well if I don't know I don't
have it.
It's almost better not knowing for sure.
Oh my god.
Which is so scary but I mean given the circumstances you can't even blame people.
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So then for Miranda and Carrie to be like well yeah of course we've had I've had two
tests she's had three tests.
It's scary.
It's nerve wracking.
And it's a death for people who are you're there and they get the bad news.
You know it's still they're honest with her in a way that doesn't they're not trying to
make her be more scared or anything but they're being realistic.
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Yeah.
And they also don't demonize or stigmatize HIV.
They just say like I feel really bad for.
Yeah.
I've seen somebody get pulled back and get the bad news and you know it's really hard
to watch that but you have to do it.
Exactly.
If you're going to be doing this if you're going to be with people you need to be smart
about it.
And they don't make her feel guilty for sexual activity.
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Or make her feel guilty for not having been tested.
It's not what they were expecting.
But I especially think with like sexual health and like STD testing and STIs and all this
stuff guilt associated with getting tested is so prevalent.
So it's good that they weren't like making her feel worse for not having been tested.
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She was already kind of embarrassed.
When she talked to him about it.
So it's like.
Yeah.
She knew her girls weren't going to judge her.
Yeah of course.
Which is the same reason that Carrie tells Samantha about the big affair.
And the same reason she doesn't tell Charlotte.
Because Charlotte reacts.
And Charlotte is so fucking annoying too.
She's the only one here who is literally like Samantha we're looking at wedding dresses.
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Can you not talk about AIDS right now?
Like she is the least supportive in this moment.
All she cares about is herself.
It was just annoying me to the extent of like.
Yeah.
That Charlotte was really annoying.
I was wondering like I do not understand brides who go nuts like this.
It just is so not me at all.
I could never be involved in someone's wedding if they acted like this.
I have preferences and ideas for my wedding but I'm never going to be the kind of person
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who's like shut up about your thing and make it all about me.
Especially when it's like I would I would feel differently if they had all agreed to
meet and talk specifically about the wedding.
If they was at Charlotte's house or if it was they went to check the gowns with her
instead of Anthony you know whatever.
But it's like no they're having breakfast like they always do.
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This is their ritual.
This is where they all talk about things.
They all bring things up.
So it's like it's an open.
The open it's an open floor.
Yeah exactly.
Yeah I agree.
All right.
So moving on Miranda's walking by the sandwich shop and there's a guy in a sandwich suit
and he says eat me and it pisses her off.
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She snatches the paper out of his hands and she walks away.
She's pissed off.
Yeah.
I love this is one of my favorite Miranda's scenes like across the series.
I love this moment.
She's so funny and like self-righteous and thinks she's above this guy in the sandwich
suit.
So like she has so many moments like this with men randomly like with.
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Yeah she does.
In a season one episode I forget which one she has it with the construction workers when
she's going to blockbuster.
Exactly.
Can I say something without being judged.
Miranda is the George Costanza of sex in the same.
100 fucking percent.
She's pathetic in like an endearing way.
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Yeah she's pathetic in a kind of sexy way.
Yeah it's like there's something kind of like there's just something so weird about her.
She's a sexually weird person.
Yes because you're like she's just.
You're like kind of attracted to her but you're also like why is she kind of nerdy and also
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she's kind of weird.
Why is she such a bitch.
Yeah.
Yeah I 100 percent agree I think that's like a perfect assessment.
Who's.
Okay so then we.
Oh go ahead.
Is Samantha Elaine.
No because.
Is Charlotte Elaine.
Elaine is like a girl boss fail.
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Carrie's Jerry.
I think Carrie's Jerry I think Samantha is.
Okay.
So what would that make.
So who's left.
Charlotte is Elaine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That actually checks out.
That checks out.
That works for me.
Yeah.
I need to rewatch Seinfeld.
I love that show.
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I've never seen it all the way through in like a sitting.
Oh I have.
I've only seen it like watching it as it was on.
My family grew up watching it.
When my family moved to the United States like immigrated here that was like the show.
My.
They watched it.
It was my grandpa's favorite show.
I love it.
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It was always on.
Yeah I love it.
It's I need to watch the whole thing.
It's considered the funniest show of all time.
I believe that from what I know.
Yeah.
I find it funny even years later.
I still find some episodes funny and some moments funny like truly funny.
Okay moving on we got our first Anthony Marantino appearance.
He goes bride shopping with Charlotte.
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He's so sexy.
I love Anthony.
I love an angry New York Italian.
His personality rubs me the right way.
He's yelling at the lady.
He's like telling her what she's doing.
She's like hates it.
Move on.
You're dragging.
And you know what we see this in the episode.
He is exactly who you want in this scenario.
Period.
Miranda was I mean Samantha was so right for recommending Charlotte.
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You need someone like an Anthony especially when you're working in these like really upper
class expensive scenarios where they will jerk you.
Yeah if they can't get jerked around.
He's the person that you would want to like go car shopping.
Yes.
If they smell fear they'll take advantage of it.
And Charlotte has fear.
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So you know they in the voiceover you even hear it's like Anthony was the overbearing
Italian mother Charlotte always wanted.
Yeah.
And it's true.
It's just I love him.
I love where I love.
I love that this is how his character is introduced.
Me too.
And I love that he becomes even closer with Charlotte as the series goes on because he
could have easily been a one episode one or two episode random insert.
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I'm glad he wasn't.
Me too.
She needs a friend outside of the group that is like kind of harsh.
Yeah.
OK so then we cut over to Samantha at the appointment at the doctor's appointment and
the doctor is asking her all kinds of questions and Samantha's answer to everything is yes.
She's like have you done this.
Yes.
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Have you tried that.
Yes.
Have you used this condom.
Yes.
Have you used this.
Yes.
Sometimes it is so it feels so embarrassing.
Yeah.
Getting the questions and they're like have you done this.
Have you done this.
And you're just like yeah yeah yeah.
And you're like especially people who work in those types of clinics and in doctor's
offices like they're not judging you.
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No they're not but they need to know all that information in order to take care of you but
like but it feels like they're judging you.
You would assume that they would because you just assume that they would.
When you're answering those kinds of questions you assume anybody who's hearing the answers
is judging.
There's a the place I go is literally two blocks from my house and I there's the one
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nurse there and I'm obsessed with her.
She's this like hippie dippy old lady and she is the sweetest.
She's just like she's so no nonsense.
She's so like cool.
She feels like if Phoebe Buffet was an RN.
Oh my god I was going to say is she like Frankie from Grayson.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
She's very that and she's just like the sweetest she makes you feel so good and like has been
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doing this for decades.
And like honestly support your local sexual health clinics.
They are doing it to all the nurses out there.
Truly they are doing the Lord's work.
They are so underserved so underpaid and they are they are trying so hard.
We love you all.
But I love this scene.
This is how it is.
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This is what it feels like.
This is a good news.
This is a really good scene.
And Samantha looks great.
Samantha looks amazing as per usual.
No surprise there.
Then we cut over to Carrie and Aiden and Carrie's like fucked in the head.
Yeah the scene is really sad.
How could she not like the sound of her boyfriend moaning.
She literally tells him to stop.
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She's like stop making that noise.
And he's literally like what noise.
And she's like stop.
Stop making that noise.
Like it's just I understand there's something bigger going on internally with her but like
God just be nice to him.
It's almost like she's frustrated by how nice and loving he is because she feels like she
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doesn't deserve it.
She knows she doesn't deserve it.
And so she finds herself getting annoyed with it.
And also I think part of it is like she doesn't want him to make that noise because it turns
her on and she only wants to be turned on by big at that moment.
Yeah and she's also just like the whole time thinking about big.
Yeah even if it's so fucked up.
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It's very fucked up.
And then he even like he gets up and he starts to like move away from her and he's like I'm
going to give you space.
And she like freaks out and is like no like love me take me back.
I'm sorry.
Forgive me.
Please don't be mad at me.
And it's like she's such an annoying bitch in this moment.
Like it's her fault that he's doing this.
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Yeah.
It's her fault that he feels this way.
And then he gets up to leave and she's like no I take it back.
I didn't mean it.
And it's like bitch.
What do you want?
Yeah.
She's annoying me.
She annoys me so bad.
Me too.
And it's just like poor Aiden is caught.
Yeah poor Aiden.
He doesn't deserve this.
And he looks so he also looks so sexy.
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His hair looks so good.
Yeah they both look so hot.
Oh my god.
What's going on in this episode?
Everybody looks fucking hot.
Except big.
Period.
He's basic as hell.
He looks like shit even in the first scene.
Yeah I agree.
But I like I just would never let Aiden out of my house.
Carrie there's nothing hotter than Carrie in a loose white tank top and a baggy pair
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of men's underwear.
I will like would devour her if that was my girlfriend.
Yeah.
Okay.
So moving on to Miranda.
Miranda is such an uptight bitch.
Like it is not that big of a deal mama.
He's saying eat me.
She's acting like he said like sit on my face right now behind the alleyway and like he
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did not say he said eat me.
And he's in a sandwich.
If anything he's just doing his job unenthusiastically.
And she's freaking out.
So but then she's kind of attracted to him and it's so George Costanza it's just like
the weirdest shit like she calls Carrie on the phone right after and she's like I don't
know I'm kind of kind of into him.
And Carrie's like are you telling me that you're attracted to a sandwich?
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And she's like I think so but I don't think I can have sex with a sandwich can I?
When she says oh you're so brave inside your sandwich.
One of my favorite lines in the whole series.
Yeah she's like take your she's like take let me see your face.
And she thinks he's kind of cute but she decides not to go forward because she's like I mean
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what could they have in common?
She was a lawyer and he was a sandwich.
It's so like there's so many moments like that.
Yeah there are.
In this episode.
There are.
Like that Samantha saying I'm counting.
Just so many funny moments.
The Japanese businessman thinks I'm a hooker.
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She looks like a hooker.
This scene of her waiting for him in that lobby wearing those sunglasses made me and
my entire family buy gold Ray-Ban aviator sunglasses.
That's so chic.
I still have my pants.
She looks so good.
She looks so fucking hot.
Carrie in like a tight mini dress.
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Carrie in any kind of tight garment tight dress wearing hair down sunglasses and big
earrings.
Those big gold earrings.
I just can't get over her.
She looks hot.
I mean she always does but she looks really hot here.
It's just she just looks perfect.
This is like this is what people think when they think Carrie Bradshaw.
(36:13):
This is what people think when they think of like 90s it girl.
Yeah.
Just like tousled hair.
She had the wardrobe.
She had the undone effortless like she just has something.
She's literally just something she did.
You can't buy this.
You can't buy this.
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Moving on they go outside.
She's like I'm leaving I can't.
And he runs after her and when she gets out there she bumps into Charlotte.
She's like Carrie what are you doing in this neighborhood?
And then Carrie looks up and Big walks out at that very moment.
That's when Charlotte realizes.
And she's like oh I just dropped my dress off at the tailors and I'm going home now
(36:57):
bye and she leaves.
And Carrie's like Charlotte and she tries to run after her but like Charlotte's too
quick so she gets pissed off at Big and shoots him an angry look as if it's his fault that
they're cheating.
Like it's both of y'all stupid ass faults Carrie.
Like anyway.
It's just so it's Charlotte is the only one who acts appropriately.
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I agree.
I love the scene.
I love the scene of Charlotte and Carrie.
Yeah the next the very next scene is Charlotte talking to Carrie about why it was fucked
up that that happened.
And like and like Carrie knows she's right.
It's like okay wait that wasn't the very next moment.
(37:40):
Right.
Or is it maybe.
Yeah it was it was.
Yeah it's the very next one.
Okay so Charlotte is very right about the fact that like there is another person to
consider and there's multiple extra people to consider and she hasn't been doing that.
And it's really toxic and also trying to snap her out of it by being like what would you
(38:00):
do if somebody did this to you or if somebody did this to me.
Yeah.
And I think that kind of helps Carrie understand a little bit better but not all the way.
No.
Obviously she still doesn't stop because the scene right after that.
Well we see Samantha and the guy in the sex swing so we're happy for her.
Yeah.
Personally I would be scared of ripping that tiny anchor out of the sea.
(38:23):
Understandably.
It's just literally not even on a beam.
It doesn't seem to be on a like stud or anything like that.
It's just like literally inserted into the ceiling.
I've never been in one that was just in the ceiling.
Like it needs to be attached to like a beam.
My only experience is ones that are have like their own four posts kind of like a bed thing.
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Oh kind of like a hammock.
Yeah so they're like their own free standing structure.
That's a good idea.
Yeah.
That's more seems more safe than that.
And I think that's how they're sold more so these days because like they're easier to
take down like move and all that stuff.
And also like if you fall out of one of these like they did you could like break your tail
down.
Yeah you could get you could really hurt yourself.
(39:08):
I'm speaking of safe sex like Samantha now you got now that you're doing one part of
the safe sex how about you do the other part of the safe sex.
Oh that's the thrill.
Oh my god.
I also like yeah I love the scene of Charlotte.
No just to be clear I'm in support of sex swings but I'm saying the manner in which
this one is.
Yeah get the right yeah get TaskRabbit have someone install your sex swing appropriately.
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Please.
Yes.
I mean you can use anchors and all that and then go to town.
It's a blast.
All right.
So then we come up upon Carrie's lowest moment in the history of sex.
It really is.
This is the lowest of the low.
This is the most disgusting despicable thing that she has ever done and ever will do.
So she's in bed with big again and he's out of bed.
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He's putting his tie on getting ready for work.
She's at their apartment.
Why is she meandering.
She is literally eating the food out of their so fucking fridge.
Okay like look that is the lowest of the low.
You're eating their food out of their married ass.
You're the groceries they bought together and wrote.
It's not even their groceries.
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It's more disrespectful.
It's their leftover Chinese.
Yeah that is hurtful.
It's just like I if okay in the beginning like this scene when they're like she's like
we have to stop that and he goes.
She's a pig she's a piece of shit in this episode and he's like fine I'll call her
right now and she stops him and it's just like first of all she goes she goes the other
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guy has a name and it's Aiden.
Oh really.
So now you fucking care about him.
How about 10 minutes ago when you were literally sucking this guy's dick and cheating on him.
It's just like she pretends.
I think the most infuriating thing about this whole episode is that to absolve herself of
the guilt she feels she's pretending like she actually cares how this is going to affect
Aiden and Natasha when and not only that but she pretends that big is somehow worse than
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she is when they're both cheating.
They're both cheating cheating and big is the one more ready to be honest.
Yeah weirdly enough big is more ready to be like fine let's just fucking do it.
He says it a couple of times he's like I don't care who who fucking sees us and then in this
one he's like give me the fuck he doesn't have shame about this.
No shame.
He's ready to end it all because he also he's in a he's in a relationship that's not fulfilling.
(41:21):
The thing about Carrie is her and Aiden are happy or happy we're happy together.
And also he's so good to her.
He's so good to her.
He only wants the best for her.
And it's just like another thing if I was literally in my ex boyfriend's apartment that
I just had sex with and like he's married I would be out before the condom was off.
(41:43):
Like get the fuck out of there.
Why are you hanging out there?
Why are you sit why are you hang you should leave with him.
Yeah I don't even I can't even imagine being comfortable.
No apartment comfortable enough to stay around walk around in her bra shower eat their leftovers.
Oh my god and the panic when the time when the time Natasha opens the door.
(42:07):
Oh my god I can feel myself.
I was sweating.
It's so it feels like a horror movie.
I can't watch that scene is so hard to watch.
I literally cringe and like scream.
I like watch.
I can watch this to scream through it yeah I can scream through it.
I literally was like like I couldn't believe it.
It still works.
It's so hard to watch.
It's so upsetting.
(42:27):
I feel so bad for Natasha.
Me too but before we talk about Natasha in that moment we do need to say one more little
note that I have is this question that he asks her that is just like so narcissistic.
It's like the ultimate narcissist question.
He says that he wants to call Natasha right.
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And she puts the phone in front of him and she's like okay do it like calling his bluff
and he goes if I make that call are you going to be there for me.
And when he said that I literally saw red.
I literally felt flames on the side of my face.
I was like flames flames flames.
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I literally wanted to strangle him because like that question you know he's only asking
that question because he wants her to make the hard choice.
He's saying like yeah he doesn't.
He has no shame but he needs her to pull the trigger.
He's not willing to do it and that's what I was trying to say before.
He wants he wants her to be 100% there for him but he doesn't want to have to do the
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same thing for her.
100%.
He's so disgusting.
Oh Carrie what the fuck are you thinking bitch.
I just don't get it.
I don't get it.
I don't understand what.
I don't get her.
I don't get it.
Me either.
And she eating the food out of the fridge like I just can't watch.
Fucking disgusting.
If this is me.
If I was Natasha.
No if I was Carrie I would have jumped out of the fucking goddamn window.
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I would yeah.
The minute I heard that door open I literally would have jumped out the window.
Bitch if I was Natasha.
There would be a knife in my hand.
I'll just start with that.
I would not be the one going to the hospital.
I would be going to jail.
Let that be the fuck known.
I would I would not be going to the hospital.
How would it like that's the thing.
Natasha she was raised right.
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Because how the fuck was she did she not have fistfuls of Carrie's hair.
She was right on her heels.
She was right on her heels.
She was trying to.
She was trying to.
Bitch grab her.
She was trying to.
Fuck her up.
She fucking busted her face.
She busted her face.
Beat her ass.
Carrie is so insane for the scene for that moment where she tries to meet up with Natasha
(44:36):
again and apologize to her.
Oh that's one of my favorite scenes.
I love that episode.
And at the same time I hate it though because Carrie is so obsessed with getting that that
um like that.
She wants to be absolved of her mistake.
She does it in this episode too with Aiden.
Yeah.
Aiden tries to leave and she immediately is like don't be mad at me.
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Forgive me.
Like don't hold this against me.
And she can't let him be mad at her for even a second.
It's the most one of the most annoying things about Carrie is how she needs everyone to
forgive her right away.
She's that's her biggest character trait.
I think so.
So in the scene where Natasha and Carrie have lunch do you know what Carrie's wearing?
She's wearing the Galeano newspaper dress.
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Yes she fucking is bitch.
I love that dress.
And like oh one of the most iconic.
If I saw my ex-husband's girlfriend ex-girlfriend wearing that dress after we had broken up
I would hate her even more.
I would literally die.
I would kill her.
Yeah.
(45:37):
I would fucking kill her.
We hate her.
I hate her so bad.
The thing is I love Carrie so much.
I do.
But she is the fucking villain in her own story.
She's hateable in this episode in particular.
I don't agree with people.
I don't agree with people who say that she is always the villain though or that she's
(45:58):
always the problem.
Like I think Carrie has redeeming qualities.
I see a lot of like her and me and I understand some of the shit she does.
And like for that reason I don't think she's always a villain but I think at the same time
like there's no such thing as a perfect character.
Yeah and there shouldn't be.
Yeah they're boring personally.
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Like if you hate a character because they make mistakes then you like boring TV.
That's just a fact.
Oh I just love Carrie.
She's such a monster.
She's such a monster.
And Natasha's like I see you.
Wait stop I'm talking to you.
And then boom she crashes her face into the ground and she comes looking up all bloody
(46:40):
and Carrie's like oh my god and they all run out stairs to get a taxi and go to the hospital.
So Carrie's waiting for Big at the fucking hospital right and he shows up.
And it's like this is the worst thing that has ever happened on the TV show I think.
Like this is this is this is like earth shattering.
Like watching this makes your stomach drop.
You feel like you're right there with Carrie.
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So Tony and I were watching the scene and Tony's never seen this episode.
What.
Tony's ever only ever seen the first season.
Oh my god.
And they're going back and forth and when Carrie says we're so over we need a new word
for over.
I turned to Tony and I was like that's like the most iconic line in the whole show.
(47:21):
It's legendary.
It's legendary like people have that tattooed on their bodies I'm pretty sure.
I literally said to Tony this is what people get tattooed.
Oh my god are you kidding me.
I said this is what people get tattooed when they like for a sex like it's.
I literally think they would.
I think they would.
Either that or the post it.
I wait bitch.
And then I literally was like this is the sex in the city tattoo I want to get and I
(47:43):
showed a picture of the post it.
Oh my god I know you so well.
You should get matching post it tattoos.
I hate the post it and I hate burger.
I would never get that.
But it's so fucking iconic.
I would get like a Samantha quote probably or like a Carrie quote.
Yeah I want to get the post it.
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I want to get it little somewhere.
I think you should.
It's so funny.
But yeah that's how I was describing it.
One of the most amazing episodes of TV of all time.
Ever.
It's so good.
And then when Carrie leaves the hospital.
Carrie leaves the hospital she goes we're so over we need a new word for over.
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This was her wake up call.
How she doesn't immediately tell Ada when she sees him I don't know.
How could she just lie like she waits.
She waits until right before the merit that Charlotte's wedding.
She goes home to Aiden.
She's just like I spent the day at the museum and I'm going to go watch.
Lying through her teeth.
How could she lie like that.
I don't understand people who are that good at lying.
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Do you have a soul.
It's just heartbreaking.
I feel so bad for Aiden.
I feel so bad for Aiden.
I don't understand how people don't like Aiden.
I don't.
There's people out there who don't like Aiden.
I don't want to hear from you.
I don't want to know you.
I have no interest in getting to know you.
Please do not reach out.
This is not a safe space for you if you don't like Aiden.
Straight up.
Big people like just fucking block our podcast.
(49:06):
You're not allowed to listen to our podcast.
I love Aiden.
I feel so bad for Aiden.
He's just like he gets no respect.
How could anybody in their right mind or wrong mind like Carrie and Big after watching this
episode.
How?
How?
I don't know.
They're just so disgusting.
Despicable.
How could you like them as a couple after watching this.
(49:28):
I don't get it.
I just don't get it.
I don't get it.
It blows my mind.
It blows my fucking mind.
I just they're not there's but it's also like you know what they're meant for each other
because they're so toxic.
Yeah.
No.
I want better for her.
I do too but she doesn't.
She belongs with Aiden.
She does but she doesn't believe that.
I think Carrie has I think we talk a lot about how Miranda has really low self-esteem.
(49:52):
I think Carrie has.
Carrie has.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel.
In a way that is like Miranda can sometimes be combative and self-pitying because of her
low self-esteem.
Carrie is self-destructive.
Yeah.
She doesn't believe that she deserves good because she's not good or like you know what
I mean.
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So of course she's going to want to be with Big because Big is also an asshole and will
never give her the real respect she deserves.
Right.
All right.
Well that concludes this episode.
So good.
So good.
I'm so glad I chose it.
Me too.
Next week we're talking about one of yours.
So what episode are we watching next week?
(50:34):
So we just talked about it a little bit.
We're going to be talking about season three episode 17.
Oh my god another season three episode.
And it's the episode where Natasha and Carrie have lunch.
Oh my god that's your favorite episode of all time?
Yes.
Oh my god I'm shocked.
I can't wait to watch it.
(50:54):
We'll talk about it.
We'll talk about it.
I can't wait.
I'm so excited.
So originally I was going back and forth between this and another one and like I love the original
one I was thinking of doing but it's just I think this episode that we're going to be
talking about next week perfectly exemplifies Carrie.
Oh my god I can't wait to watch it.
(51:16):
I'm excited to talk about these two back to back.
It's like one of the first times we're going to be like kind of ending a narrative in the
podcast.
And you know what I have another season three episode.
I do too.
And you do too.
I think I'm the only one who has something from season six.
Yeah I don't have anything from season six.
I have two from season three, one from season two, and one from season four.
(51:40):
I have two from three, one from two, one from six, one from four.
Honestly season three is my favorite.
It's my save rate season.
I think it is.
It's mine too.
I think it's mine too.
It just has everything.
It has everything.
Please watch next week's episode.
This is a show where you have to watch the episode.
Yeah guys we're not fooling around this season.
(52:00):
We really want you all to watch.
It's so much more fun.
Yeah please watch it.
Um yeah follow us on socials.
Follow us on socials we're acting a fool.
Tell your friends.
Tell your friends, follow and subscribe, like and subscribe, let us know what you think.
Thank you so much for listening.
Thanks for listening love y'all.
Bye bye.
Bye.
Oh my god he's online.
(52:21):
Can he see me?
What the hell is she talking about?
Who's this?
Can I speak to Angelina please?
No she died.
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