April 25, 2024 • 40 mins
In this episode, Dr. Obadan shares her journey towards specializing in internal medicine and nephrology and discusses the role of kidneys. She delves into the inception of YoungerSelfMD, primary and secondary prevention in healthcare, and the financial burden of chronic diseases. Dr. Tamara Beckford joins to talk about self-care practices and bonding in self-care. Finally, listeners are introduced to YoungerSelfMD practice and how to connect with Dr. Obadan.
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So excited, right, because we are going to havesome exciting news coming in in the next few
episodes I'm just really gonna just have youguys there.
I just didn't want to, like, what is Doctor.
Tamarbeck?
What is she planning for us.
It's a secret just like I tell my kids.
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I can't tell you because it's a secret.
But right now, today, we have one of my friendshere.
This is Doctor Didi.
Yes.
In the house, and we are gonna have a lovelyconversation.
Right?
But Let me bring her in in our your currentdog's fashion.
Right?
So this wonderful lady, the book of ours, She'sa graduate of the University of Obadan in
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Nigeria.
We're my night job people.
Come on, Becca.
Yes, Jessie.
Then she did her residency in internal medicineat Harlem Columbia University Hospital in New
York.
Yep.
All my NYP Oh, hello.
That's you right there.
And she did her fellowship in nephrology.
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I know enough what?
That's right.
That's the study of the kidneys and all that isall about the kidneys.
Right?
So she did that as the Medical University ofSouth Carolina.
She is the co founder of younger self MD Okay.
Oh, you got it.
Yeah, she is the co founder of youngersovereignty, where she cares for patients who
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are at risk of kidney disease.
Right?
She health prevents chronic medical conditions,such as high blood pressure, diabetes, obesity,
and, of course, chronic kidney diseases becausethat's her specialty.
Right?
And she does that because she has thiswonderful interest in not just regular med son,
like we call it, you know, standard medicine,but she also has wonderful interest in
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lifestyle, obesity, and functional medicine.
So she's using all of those skills together totake great care of her patients.
So welcome to our docs.
Who cares?
Show the 1 and only Doctor.
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Thank you.
Thank you so much.
How are you?
I'm fine.
Thank you for having me in your show, DoctorTamara.
Hey.
It's a pleasure to be with you today.
Thank you so much.
My pleasure.
The pleasure is all mine.
Alrighty.
So we are so excited to have you on but youknow how we do on this show?
We're gonna dig into the past.
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So we have the wonderful doctor NdidiamakaObadan right now.
But before that, we had little Didi.
Right?
Little Didi who decided.
You know what?
I wouldn't be a doctor.
So take us back.
Then and to tell us the story and what is itthat made you decide?
You know what?
I wanna be a doctor.
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Well, oh, thank you.
Well, so yes, little little diddy, not solittle diddy.
But the short answer is, my parents, you know,when I was young, my parents put the idea in my
head and, you know, they planted the seed andsaid, oh, you know, you could you would make a
very good doctor.
And, I had I was fortunate to, watch my unclewho was a physician and very well respected in
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the community.
I just loved the way he you know, had influenceover people's lives and media lives better and
all the things he did for the local community.
So, you know, I said, oh, That's a good, nobleprofession to go into.
And, you know, as time went by, I figured outthat I really love connecting with people, you
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know, building a long lasting relationship withmy patients, you know, sharing their wins and
failures.
And, you know, breaking it down, you know,breaking it down, the helping them navigate
this really complex, health care system, youknow, the space that we're in, I, consider
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myself to be a devoted, patient advocate.
And so, yeah, and I also like to provide,positive impact to my community as well.
So that's, you know, that's the whole story.
I decided, yeah, this is a a great and nobleprofession, and I should be definitely be a
doctor.
Oh, I love it.
So your aspiration to help and to serve yourcommunity and to really have an impact on the
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lives of others.
And a lasting impact is what brought you there,but the seed was planted by the parents and not
only you know, the parents can plant the seed,but it's not until you see others who are doing
it.
Right?
So that so the represent like, we sayrepresentation matters.
You see your uncle.
You see what he's doing.
You see the impact.
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Yes.
Mhmm.
And it also has to match with your personality.
You know?
So you have to figure out this is something youtruly love.
Yeah.
The parents you know, the the environment thatyou're in and make sure that whatever it is
you're planning to do matches with yourpersonal.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Okay.
So how old were you when all of this is goingon?
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Are you asking my age?
I'm talking about how old were you I mean, somepeople were eighteen years old when they
remember when that when they got
your part.
Oh, when they started plants and my parents,oh, yes.
I was, like, think it started really early onbecause, you know, when I I looked back at my
pictures, when I was three or four years old,you know.
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Yeah.
They they were always buying toys,
you know, so it's cool.
And That's very
fair.
Yes.
I think my mom my mom was the major you
know, plan it here.
Right?
Yeah.
She would, and and, you know, I think my dadtoo, but they would definitely, encourage him,
say, oh, you could be make a great doc youknow, this is something that, you should
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pursue.
You can do anything you set your mind up to do.
Absolutely.
And that's so great to to really plant thatseed of endless possibilities in our children
so that they can know you know, you can strivefor anything that you put your mind to.
And then to have, like we said, models in frontof people that they can see doing what it is
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that they aspire to do, because then it reallyreinforces the fact that the possibilities are
truly endless.
Alrighty.
So we're there.
Now it's it's one thing to have the seedplanted, and it's one thing to take you know,
the the the lies toys, but then you are now inmedical school, like, woah.
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Oh, camey.
Woah.
I know you're really weird.
And you decide that.
You know what?
I wanna do internal medicine, or, you know,what made you decide to do internal medicine?
Well, you know, internal medicine and then youknow, nephrology.
So I was a very studious medical student, youknow.
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My my colleagues would there are some timeswhere you use, like, Efico and, oh, you know,
they would tease me, like, you know, like anerd kind of thing.
And so I had genuine interest to learn andstudy.
And, as a result, was interested, could do wellin multiple specialties.
Yeah.
And, you know, over time, I, found myselfgravitating towards obstetrics and gynecology
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just because, yeah, I had a little mentors inthat field, and I was interested in, you know,
maternal health being a woman, you know, andbabies.
I felt like that was the, happiest field ofmedicine at the time, you know, like when the
babies are born and the moms, of course, therewere some there were some not so happy.
Happy times.
Absolutely.
Times.
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Yes.
But, you know, in general, that's where I was,gravitating towards.
But somewhere along the line, I think, youknow, somewhere along the line, I started to
get more interested in internal medicine.
And, you know, this was really shaped by thepeople who are around me.
Again, you know, the mentors during my Harlemresidency.
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And, you know, particularly, I remember oneparticular, there was one fellow that I had who
He was a I was a resident.
He was a fellow at the time.
Just kept on encouraging me, giving me lots of,positive feedback and, you know, told me that I
really cared for my patients and so howpassionate that was about the treatment and
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outcome and you know, so, yeah, I think thatreally galvanized my movement towards, you
know, pursuing field in internal medicine and,I mean, nephrology.
Specifically.
Yeah.
Because I love our next question.
Like, you know, for those of you who, are notfamiliar with the the field of medicine and the
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different steps.
So after, you graduate from medical school,then you decide on and, as well, kind of like a
specialty.
Right?
Yes.
And you I'm sorry to interrupt you, Tamara, butyou have to kind of specified medical school in
some places.
It comes in up to 7 years.
You know?
Absolutely.
And this
is the combined for dependent honor.
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If you're in the United States, Usually, you'lldo the 4 years of undergrad unless you're in a
combined program, and then you go into medicalschool.
A lot of, other countries, because the samething, like, in, Jamaica, where I'm from, you
know, UE, hey, all my UE people.
And then, like, you know, in Nigeria, some ofthese, other schools, they they made that
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decision from, like, high school.
And then you're combined.
Yes.
So your combination of medical school and yourkind of undergrad occurs at the same time.
Right.
And so once you graduate, at least for us herein the United States, right, everybody
graduate, you have that MD or MD equivalents.
That's, according to whatever school that yougo to, and then you decide on a specialty.
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So now the specialty is internal medicine,which is, you know, our general medical doctor
takes you all of adults.
Right?
A lot of us have internal medicine as ourprimary care do that, then she went and she did
a subspecialty So her subspecialty, that meansshe went and got further training, and her
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further training is in nephrology.
Which is the art and the study and thetreatment of kidney diseases.
So now we're trying to figure out, like, I'veeven done all of this studying for and and
working in internal medicine.
You decide, I wanna learn more, and I wanna gointo aprology.
So what made you, you know, say, okay.
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Yeah.
I wanna go more into that track right there.
Well, you know, so, yes, you know, that's avery good summary right there that you have,
you know, after doing your med school for 7years, and then you go into residency for 3
years, and then you decide that you want tosubspecialized for another 2 to 3 years
depending on what subspecialty they are goinginto.
And, you know, internal medicine, is reallybroad.
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It's, the study of all the adults, organs and,nephrology kind of hones in on the study of
function just as you said, but, you know, withI think one thing I found really unique about
nephrology was that it's kept you in touch
with the other aspects of internal medicine.
You know?
So because the
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kidneys so, you know, relevant.
They, they they have a lot of functions andthey control all aspects of the Obadan.
And so you have to be in tune.
You have to stay connected with all otheraspects of internal medicine and medicine in
general.
To be able to be a nephrologist.
So some people call nephrologist the super, youknow, intent.
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I don't want to get political here.
It always connected.
You guys they consider.
You guys are managing the asset in the basis.
So for modern nights, for all the wordlistening.
And you remember enrolling yourselves back intochemistry in high school as to this, and you
were like, oh gosh.
I'm so glad.
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That I got through that test.
This is what they do.
They are so good at it, and they're not onlydoing that just to pass test.
This is helping us in our lives.
You know?
Right.
Yeah.
So but then the thing is too that the kidneyshave so many different functions So many.
Such as for those with high blood pressure.
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Controlling.
Yeah.
So when we're really sitting and thinking abouthow do we control people's blood pressure you
know, the kidneys are one of those hiddenhidden things and hidden organs within our body
that a lot of people don't think about.
That really helps.
So go ahead.
And, you know, when you are, like, here helpingso many, you're passionate about making sure
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that people's keep their blood pressure undercontrol, understand the function that the
kidney has within the body that we're notthinking about.
Like, you know, this is just so fascinating.
Right.
At least some of the things that you thoughtabout when you're like, yes.
This is what I
wanna do.
Yes.
Yes.
Exactly.
I mean, you know, the kidneys, they helpregulating blood pressure, blood fluid, you
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know, some hormones are produced by thekidneys, hormones that are involved with
producing your red blood cells, and keepingyour bones and teeth, you know, like vitamin D,
strong and healthy.
The kidneys help to regulate importantminerals, the sodium, potassium, phosphorus,
you know, a lot of, yeah, elements in the bodyare regulated by the kidney.
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And you know, so you you need to kind of know alot, to be able to you need to stay in touch,
you know, with all aspects of medicine.
So So that's one reason.
I I wanted to stay within the nephrology field.
And another reason is, you know, there's somany different settings that you can work in as
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a nephrologist, you know, if you prefer theslower paced setting, you know, and, you know,
talking with your patients, you could dooutpatient clinical setting.
If you like the faster pace, you know, setting.
You could walk in the hospital setting or inthe critical care unit as well because, you
know, there are a lot of reasons why peoplewould, you know, end up in the intensive care
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unit.
People with kidney issues end up in theintensive care unit and they may require
dialysis or renal replacement therapy.
And, you know, if you if for those who reallywanna just focus on People who have end stage,
what we call end stage renal disease, reallyadvanced chronic kidney disease.
The kidneys have continued have completelyfailed and are no longer able to perform their
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function.
They now have to get on dialysis, which is amachine that helps to actually perform the
function of the kidney that is no longerworking.
You know, so that's a separate field working inthe dialysis unit as well.
And then you have the unit after.
So some people, most many people nowadays arelucky enough to get a transfer.
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You know?
Yes.
Yes.
And so that's another field of nephrology.
You can go on and subspecialize to become atransplant nephrologist.
So I'm who take care of people who havereceived kidneys.
And then still within the field of nephrology,there's research.
You know?
Mhmm.
If you just decide, okay.
I just want to focus on just publishing dataor, you know, doing clinical trials, with
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patients, then you also have that aspect tofocused on.
So it's really broad.
You know, it doesn't narrow your scope.
You you feel like all all brain cells are fire
Absolutely.
I love it.
I never never a boring moment.
Never a boring moment.
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You guys are absolutely one of the rock starswithin the medical field.
And it's, like, yes, we always bow down to thecrowd.
So now this is wonderful.
You know, you've done that and you've decided,I, you know, wanna go ahead and, delve deeper
into the field of nephrology.
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But then now you decide that you also wanna usethose skill sets to help those within your
community.
And you, along with your husband, you have nowopened up this wonderful practice, which is
called younger self MD.
So tell us, how did that come about?
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So, you know, the name younger self.
So men younger self MD is a practice that isfocused on primary and secondary prevention.
Primary prevention of chronic of chronicmedical conditions, including chronic kidney
disease.
You know, is defined as trying to implementstrategies that will prevent the onset of these
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diseases in the first place.
So, you know, education strategies, forexample, or immunization against, infectious
diseases, you know, these are examples ofprimary, interventions.
I I'm echoing.
Can you hear me echo?
No.
Okay.
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And then secondary prevention is, treating thepresence of the when the disease is already
existing.
End when you're trying to prevent imminentdamage from occurring as a result.
And so that's what we, you know, that's thewhole concept of, this medical practice.
It, you know, for me, I came up we came up withthe name.
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You know, my husband and I, because I found outthat, depending on the culture that you're in,
as we age, we tend to some things that's tohappen, some things that's to shift in some
cultures, And I feel like the people start todevelop on what I define as, unhealthy aging
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behaviors, you know.
Oh.
You start to have parsley.
You have you you get, you know, you startgetting involved in unhealthy coping
mechanisms, you know, like drinking excessivealcohol, cigarette smoking, And, you know, as
we get older, if you're in this, what I calltoxic culture, you start to have developed
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sedentary lifestyle.
You know?
Right.
Couch, potato, sit down, watch TV, and, youknow, the ones they need physical activity.
And I feel like all that this behavior coupledwith stress and inflammation, you know, starts
to make the, manifestation of all this chronicmedical condition Right.
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Come up, you know, that's when you start havingpeople come down with, you know, diabetes, high
blood pressure, and chronic kidney disease,because then they start to neglect themselves,
you know, they don't take good care of allthese other conditions that can cause your the
kidneys to fail, and then they becomedepressed.
And, you know, it's just a
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This is
yeah.
Spiral.
It's a downward spiral.
Absolutely.
And so the name, younger self MD was born,maintaining youthful exuberance, you know, as
they say, number is just age is just thenumber.
Exactly.
We've all had we've all had a lot of eitherpeople within our families, or even patients
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that you see the number and then you look atthe person, then you're like, woah.
The agent really is just the number that personis youthful.
Like you said, exuberant.
Exactly.
And it's just the number on that file.
However, the opposite can occur.
Right?
If one doesn't take care of themselves, you'llstill look and see that the age and the person
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it doesn't correlates.
And therefore I got
All of a sudden, yes, all of a sudden, they'llsay, oh, I'm I'm forty.
You know, I have not winding down unless theend of my life.
Happy, you
know, wind I'm winding down.
You know?
And so it's all about the art to tued and hasenhanced the name.
Yes.
Number sale.
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I I love it.
Yeah.
At 40s, at 40s, at 40s, not winding up.
If you look at those, who are leaving thecountry.
Yeah.
I mean,
it's a matter of, is the glass half full or isthe glass half empty,
you know, in any issues?
Yes.
If you
could start, like, running and and runningcorporation.
Most of those who run-in corporations were intheir seventies, and I thinking like, oh, when
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I was in my forties, I was winding down.
But it stands at mindset.
You better get my youthful younger self MD toget something.
Alright.
Exactly.
So that's why we come in.
You know, we are using a, the integrative, youknow, functional and integrative medicine
approach.
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You know, integrative medicine is a combinationof conventional medical, you know, in which
Mhmm.
Relies heavily on surgery and drugs withnonconventional therapeutic modalities like,
you know, mindfulness based reductiontechniques, you know, lifestyle, modification,
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diet re changes and and some supplements.
And and there are other, you know, othermodalities that are involved as well.
And so a combination to treat the individual asa whole.
Absolutely.
Which, you know, this is a It's kind of areturn back to what medicine was.
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You know, we call it now.
We're calling it nontraditional medicine, andit really should do it in traditional.
Because when we really thought about theorigin, we did keep in mind lifestyle and its
impact on the patients.
We did shift from that to what most people now,as you mentioned, are conventional medicine,
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where we're, you know, shifting to when weshifted I should say 2 a, b.
Okay.
This is wrong.
Take this medication.
This is wrong.
Take that medication.
This is wrong.
Do that particular procedure.
However, now this integrated approach that weare returning to is a it's a great way to
really look because A lot of our patients arereally looking for, well, how is it that I can
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be a part of my treatment plan?
Right?
Well, some would like to say, well, what is itthat I can do to help?
And with this integrated approach, that's agreat way for the patients to really feel
involved and to really take a little bit of theownership of their health, you know, lifestyle
modification.
Mhmm.
I wanna do this.
How do I reduce my stress and that you saidthose are the way the mindfulness techniques
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help in order to really get the patient to beat their best.
And in doing so, what are we doing?
We're preventing a lot of this chronic medicaldiseases that are out there.
So I love love love love love it.
Yes.
And and, you know, this is really important,because, you know, I don't know if you're aware
that 1 in 6 Americans have at least one chronicmedical condition.
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And, you know, from the health systemperspective, it can be very expensive.
Absolutely.
The finance, it's very expensive.
You know, prevention is definitely, cheaperthan.
That is for both of you.
Right?
And the prevention is better than a pound ofcure.
Is it better and cheaper?
Okay.
So For diabetes, the estimated cost alonehealth care cost is about 327,000,000,000.
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Would it be?
Yes.
1,000,000,000.
And and high blood pressure is estimated tocost about 80 $1,000,000,000 per year in the
UnitedHealthcare system per year.
Like, this is a recurring annual, you know,expense And, you know, from the patient's
perspective,
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you
know, there are a lot of in in addition to thedirect and indirect.
So they're direct costs and they're indirectcosts.
Like, you know, let me give an example ofsomeone who's on dialysis from end stage renal
disease.
Okay?
Indirect costs include missing work becausethey have to be on the dialysis machine for 3
hours.
Tamara, did you know this?
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They have to be on the machine for 3 hours,three times a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
or Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday.
Mhmm.
And, you know, sometimes They have to havetheir family members or, you know, some other
person transport them or the health system hasto transport them
to
get these treatments.
And, you know, they miss work.
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The family members miss work.
You know, there's a lot of disability,associated with it.
They're tired.
You know, there's fatigue and there's increaserisk for stroke and heart disease with this.
So it's, overall decrease quality of life.
There's so much cost directly to the patientdirectly on India.
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Not even meant to the mental toll that it takeson them.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And simple, you know, life change, you know,lifestyle change program programs have been
shown to reduce these, medical conditions andtheir complications by about 50 to 90%.
Oh, wow.
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I know.
Right?
Imagine the cost savings.
You know?
Imagine if you could act early on and preventall these things from occurring, you know?
Let me give you another specific example.
I found on study that showed that regular eyeexams
Mhmm.
And treatment can prevent up to 90% ofblindness.
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Due to diabetes.
Mhmm.
I mean, isn't that outstanding?
Yes.
It's and it's an annual exam.
Yes.
One day for maybe 2 hours.
2 hours out of out of the day one day a year,and it can prevent vision loss.
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How powerful?
That is so powerful.
That is something that so I feel like, youknow, our mission at younger self MD is a very
important one.
And, we're gonna take it very seriously.
Yes.
I definitely def the as we mentioned, you know,we're highlighting, like, you know, prevention,
it's not just that you are helping to maintaina healthy lifestyle, but it's also very cost
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effective because you're saying that, you know,preventing, like, the what we are spending and,
yearly on diabetes and also on high bloodpressure and if you really think about it, that
statistic is about, like, 300 and something1,000,000,000 a year on diabetes and, like,
80,000,000,000 on hypertension.
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Yes.
But most people have both.
Yes.
Yeah.
So as you really think about it.
In fact, that's that's another major one.
You know, when you're talking about the effectson the patient, the high polypharmacy, you
know, they they have multiple comorbidities Youknow?
And you feel highly appreciated, maybe on threepills.
For diabetes, you may be on 3.
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And by the time you have 5, you know, you'reall of a sudden, you're on 15 to 20 pills.
And then there's a chance that these pills aregoing to interact.
Then, you know, you start to have falls,
fractures, such.
I mean, the ER is the package.
Everything.
Yes.
But Yes.
And it just daily it really adds up.
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And and therefore, you know, looking at ways inorder to help to prevent all of this, as you
said, that with your practice, That's howimportant this is for the not just financially,
but also for the life.
The quality of life that you're extending, notthe, oh, I'm 40.
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I'm about to go down the hill.
No.
It's 40.
I'm stepping it up.
That's what it
is.
That is that's the mentality.
I'm eighty, and I'm just starting.
I'm eighty, and I'm just beginning.
I'm just sorry.
I've met some of those eighty year roles
iced tea.
They're doing marathons.
Some of them are, you know, they feel like,listen.
They're about to do their 8, you know, eightiesmarathon.
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I think you seen them.
I kinda Yeah.
That's so true.
So recently, I met an eight year old, actually,when I went for my son's, performance.
He performed in his school, and, he was on theLion King Show.
He was a star on the Lion King show.
And so I met this eighty old man who wasambulating and working without any, inter, you
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know, low no kings
or anything like that.
And he pro he was very proud to tell me that hewas on just one pill.
You know, that I know, right?
I was like, you know, sir, you are so uniquebecause a lot of people that we see At this
age, many, many times, on a lot of othermedications and having to deal with a lot of
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stuff.
So It's truly a blessing for you to be as fitas you are.
And I think that it all reflects all theinterventions that he took early on, you know,
and he I I always find it fascinating to reallyevaluate those kind of people who've been able
to live such
a great life.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And then they're coming in.
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And then so now at the beginning of each of thepen relays, they do also they have a pen
relays.
Annually in, Pennsylvania.
And they do have, they do also have the, Ithink, the eighty year olds or so.
Who do a little sprint at the beginning of therelays.
So they, you know, are out there.
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It all is how you treat yourself during youryounger years.
And it reflects in the quality of life thatyou'll have during the latter part of your
year.
So we're talking to all about all these eightyyear roles.
Who do learn phones.
We're going to bring it back to you, DoctorDidi.
So with self care, what are you doing for selfcare?
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I know, you know, this is a this is a goodquestion.
So for self care, I love to travel.
I love to travel to new places.
Explore, relax, unwind.
I love traveling with my family and, and andsometimes alone.
And, you know, it's it's really exciting Itkind of, rejuvenates my spirit when I do that.
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Another form of self care for me is cooking.
I just love to cook.
I think it's because it brings back a lot of,fond childhood memories for me because, growing
up I I'm the 1st of 4, and my siblings, youknow, would bring them all together,
and
we would I would assign tasks because You dothe carrots.
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You do the, you know, do this.
You you wish to work.
And then we all cook together and, you know,all enjoy the rewards of our hard work.
Together and do it.
And our parents would be so proud of us.
And, you know, so it was it was really abonding experience for myself and my family,
and we, you know, would use that opportunity toconnect and share our stories, tackle serious
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issues.
You know, they say whether it's food.
All issues can be resolved.
I love it.
And so and so now in my new family, I do thesame thing.
My kids And, you know, my husband, we try to, Imean, we're very we're all busy, so we can't do
this every single day.
But, you know, once in a while.
Mhmm.
Yes.
I I really enjoy mixing and creating a littlebit of this, a little bit of that.
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And, you know, we all kinda have conversationsaround the dining table.
And and and build this lovely delicious, youknow, delicious to me.
They're delicious meals.
And I I always get, you know, good complimentsfrom my son.
He was like, oh, Mommy, I just enjoyed.
I love it when you cook for me.
I enjoy day, you know, and my daughter's too,you know, like, so, you know, it's there's that
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that for me is, self care.
Love it's bond and creating bonds, creatingfamilial bond, familial traditions, which
you'll pass on.
The conversations, tackling issues, having funlaughing, and having those moments are
absolutely all positive ways.
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For self care.
You're releasing all those positive hormones,oxytocin, you're bonded together.
Yeah.
Endorphins.
You know, the high.
Whoo.
I wonder what tastes like with dopamine.
Oh, yeah.
Give me more.
Give me more.
Yeah.
And the smells.
Too.
The fragrance is.
And if if you
use a combination of, you know, ginger, garlicspices, well, some people
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are still making me hungry.
Yes.
It's truly like, you
know, all your senses are activated.
What what is your form of self care that's thetermite?
Well, my form of self care is what I'm doingright now.
Interviewing, getting to know each other,bonding with people, that's my form of self
care.
In addition to hanging out with my family, andmy kids are younger.
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They can't cook.
I'm not having them burned out my house anymorewith health care.
They're 3.
Oh, oh, oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
At 3 and 5.
And the name of self care, I'll preserve thishouse.
So So that's my former self care.
So now here is my other really fun questionthat I love to ask.
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Oh my gass.
Oh, Doctor d.
If you weren't a doctor, what would you be?
So let me think about this.
If I was a doctor, I probably would.
Yes.
If I wasn't, I probably would, have gone intosome form of computer science or the tech
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industry.
Yes.
Because, you know, my dad but this nicecomputer for us really early on.
And and then the internet wasn't really asreadily available as it is today.
So we were heavily reliant on the CDs.
Remember the CDs on
the floppy this in the CD?
Yes.
Yeah.
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And so I had I had 2 encyclopedias,
the
Britannica and dankato.
And I would just sluck them in and, you know,spend the whole time going through everything,
reading the whole encyclopedia over and overand over again.
Right.
And and and so it was it was really my pasttime.
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I enjoyed, in doing that.
And and I think I would have, yeah, in my in mynext life.
Coming back and and all in the computerindustry.
Yeah.
I mean, I or maybe I could do some hybrid rightnow.
You know, it's not too late.
I could do some kind
of trick and, yes, you know.
Most of the time, whenever I ask that question,a lot of the answers are things that people are
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kind of incorporating in their lives, but theydidn't realize they're incorporating it in
their lives.
So look back and reflect and see if youactually are incorporating some of those same
things.
It's like a pediatric botanical portion oflife, your computerized portion.
So it really is really an introspectivequestion, and it's also a fun question.
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So alrighty.
Now we have a lot of people who have beenwatching, who jumped on, you know, they've
really enjoyed this conversation getting toknow Doctor Didi And they're like, you know
what?
I really like her, and I'd love to have her asmy doctor to have her as the one who takes care
of my loved one.
I'd like to be part of that younger self MDbecause, a, remember the number.
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Let them know where can they find you?
Well.
So, our practice is going to open officially inJuly.
Vip waiting list?
VIP
waiting list.
Yes.
The website is www@youngassaultmd.com.
So that's y0nger.
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Selfmd.com.
And, it's going to be located in Kennesawaquatz Georgia.
And and so come pay us a visit.
Just imagine if you could restore yourbeautiful energy and take back control of your
health, body, and mind.
You know, we would love to be a part of thisjourney with you.
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So come join us.
We can also be found on instagramatyoungasofthemd.uhuhyoungasoftyoungaselfdot MD
and on, on Facebook?
On Facebook?
Yes.
On Facebook, younger self MD.
As well.
Oh, wonderful.
And I'm also on LinkedIn with
Oh, there we go.
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Yeah.
I'm on LinkedIn with my name.
Doctor Ndidiamaka Obadan.
And I also have a YouTube channel, younger selfMD.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
So for yeah.
We have many, many ways to getting contact withDoctor Didi and to be part of her younger self
MD crowd, be part of her VIP waiting list.
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Right?
Do they just go to young yourselfmd.com?
Yeah.
Start a bit waiting list so that you are thefirst to know what's going when she opened
those doors.
I think that if you go to the website, you'llsee they have a lot.
Her and her husband have a lot in store toreally help to preserve that younger self of
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you.
Right?
And you can also follow her on the manydifferent social media and panels or,
throughout social media.
So we have our Instagram, younger self.md.
You can find her on Facebook at Young YourselfMD and also on YouTube at Young Yourself MD.
And if you would love to connect with doctor,Indeed on LinkedIn.
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UC, there's her name right there, and her namewill also be in the show notes for those who
are listening.
So keep in contact with her if you are in theKennesaw, Georgia area.
Wonderful practice is coming soon in July of2022.
Alrighty.
Doctor Didi, thank you so much for spendingthis time with us.
We had a wonderful time with you.
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Oh, thank you.
Thank you so much for having me.
Thank you so much.
It was truly an incredible time.
I really enjoyed myself.
It was so much fun.
See, I told you.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
Wonderful time talking all about all theaspects of life, taking us all the way from her
useless time when she got the planted that, youknow, see that you could be a great doctor
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seeing this lovely, vision and also seeingthose around her her wonderful uncle, taking
great care of people traversing the path tomedicine from Nigeria to New York to South
Carolina now opening a wonderful practice inthe lovely state of Georgia right there in
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Kenesaw area.
So thank you so much for spending this lovelytime with us.
For those of you who love, love, love thisinterview, Do not hesitate to give her a 5 star
review.
Yes.
If you do have an Apple device, jump on and lether know how wonderful this interview was.
We learned a lot about preventative diseasesand how we're gonna make sure that we stay
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younger because we're gonna be the eighty yearold saying that I just ran that marathon.
We're only on fun field when someone comes upto us in their school, their kid's school
function.
Right?
Look, by the way, you see all of this?
That's right.
I'm doing very,
very well.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So for those of you guys who are alsolistening, remember there is a we have a
(40:26):
surprise coming up for those of you guys wholove the Dotsu Care Show.
I'm intrigued.
I'm not interested.
Yes.
Coming up.
We do have a surprise.
And because it is a surprise, we cannot tellyou.
I just look forward for the last few episodes,and we will be dropping.
Oh, this wonderful surprise on you.
Thank you all for listening and for watching,and we will see you guys next.
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Time.
Bye bye.
So excited, right, because we are going to havesome exciting news coming in in the next few
episodes I'm just really gonna just have youguys there.
I just didn't want to, like, what is Doctor.
Tamarbeck?
What is she planning for us.
It's a secret just like I tell my kids.
(00:21):
I can't tell you because it's a secret.
But right now, today, we have one of my friendshere.
This is Doctor Didi.
Yes.
In the house, and we are gonna have a lovelyconversation.
Right?
But Let me bring her in in our your currentdog's fashion.
Right?
So this wonderful lady, the book of ours, She'sa graduate of the University of Obadan in
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Nigeria.
We're my night job people.
Come on, Becca.
Yes, Jessie.
Then she did her residency in internal medicineat Harlem Columbia University Hospital in New
York.
Yep.
All my NYP Oh, hello.
That's you right there.
And she did her fellowship in nephrology.
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I know enough what?
That's right.
That's the study of the kidneys and all that isall about the kidneys.
Right?
So she did that as the Medical University ofSouth Carolina.
She is the co founder of younger self MD Okay.
Oh, you got it.
Yeah, she is the co founder of youngersovereignty, where she cares for patients who
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are at risk of kidney disease.
Right?
She health prevents chronic medical conditions,such as high blood pressure, diabetes, obesity,
and, of course, chronic kidney diseases becausethat's her specialty.
Right?
And she does that because she has thiswonderful interest in not just regular med son,
like we call it, you know, standard medicine,but she also has wonderful interest in
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lifestyle, obesity, and functional medicine.
So she's using all of those skills together totake great care of her patients.
So welcome to our docs.
Who cares?
Show the 1 and only Doctor.
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Thank you.
Thank you so much.
How are you?
I'm fine.
Thank you for having me in your show, DoctorTamara.
Hey.
It's a pleasure to be with you today.
Thank you so much.
My pleasure.
The pleasure is all mine.
Alrighty.
So we are so excited to have you on but youknow how we do on this show?
We're gonna dig into the past.
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So we have the wonderful doctor NdidiamakaObadan right now.
But before that, we had little Didi.
Right?
Little Didi who decided.
You know what?
I wouldn't be a doctor.
So take us back.
Then and to tell us the story and what is itthat made you decide?
You know what?
I wanna be a doctor.
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Well, oh, thank you.
Well, so yes, little little diddy, not solittle diddy.
But the short answer is, my parents, you know,when I was young, my parents put the idea in my
head and, you know, they planted the seed andsaid, oh, you know, you could you would make a
very good doctor.
And, I had I was fortunate to, watch my unclewho was a physician and very well respected in
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the community.
I just loved the way he you know, had influenceover people's lives and media lives better and
all the things he did for the local community.
So, you know, I said, oh, That's a good, nobleprofession to go into.
And, you know, as time went by, I figured outthat I really love connecting with people, you
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know, building a long lasting relationship withmy patients, you know, sharing their wins and
failures.
And, you know, breaking it down, you know,breaking it down, the helping them navigate
this really complex, health care system, youknow, the space that we're in, I, consider
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myself to be a devoted, patient advocate.
And so, yeah, and I also like to provide,positive impact to my community as well.
So that's, you know, that's the whole story.
I decided, yeah, this is a a great and nobleprofession, and I should be definitely be a
doctor.
Oh, I love it.
So your aspiration to help and to serve yourcommunity and to really have an impact on the
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lives of others.
And a lasting impact is what brought you there,but the seed was planted by the parents and not
only you know, the parents can plant the seed,but it's not until you see others who are doing
it.
Right?
So that so the represent like, we sayrepresentation matters.
You see your uncle.
You see what he's doing.
You see the impact.
(04:59):
Yes.
Mhmm.
And it also has to match with your personality.
You know?
So you have to figure out this is something youtruly love.
Yeah.
The parents you know, the the environment thatyou're in and make sure that whatever it is
you're planning to do matches with yourpersonal.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Okay.
So how old were you when all of this is goingon?
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Are you asking my age?
I'm talking about how old were you I mean, somepeople were eighteen years old when they
remember when that when they got
your part.
Oh, when they started plants and my parents,oh, yes.
I was, like, think it started really early onbecause, you know, when I I looked back at my
pictures, when I was three or four years old,you know.
(05:41):
Yeah.
They they were always buying toys,
you know, so it's cool.
And That's very
fair.
Yes.
I think my mom my mom was the major you
know, plan it here.
Right?
Yeah.
She would, and and, you know, I think my dadtoo, but they would definitely, encourage him,
say, oh, you could be make a great doc youknow, this is something that, you should
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pursue.
You can do anything you set your mind up to do.
Absolutely.
And that's so great to to really plant thatseed of endless possibilities in our children
so that they can know you know, you can strivefor anything that you put your mind to.
And then to have, like we said, models in frontof people that they can see doing what it is
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that they aspire to do, because then it reallyreinforces the fact that the possibilities are
truly endless.
Alrighty.
So we're there.
Now it's it's one thing to have the seedplanted, and it's one thing to take you know,
the the the lies toys, but then you are now inmedical school, like, woah.
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Oh, camey.
Woah.
I know you're really weird.
And you decide that.
You know what?
I wanna do internal medicine, or, you know,what made you decide to do internal medicine?
Well, you know, internal medicine and then youknow, nephrology.
So I was a very studious medical student, youknow.
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My my colleagues would there are some timeswhere you use, like, Efico and, oh, you know,
they would tease me, like, you know, like anerd kind of thing.
And so I had genuine interest to learn andstudy.
And, as a result, was interested, could do wellin multiple specialties.
Yeah.
And, you know, over time, I, found myselfgravitating towards obstetrics and gynecology
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just because, yeah, I had a little mentors inthat field, and I was interested in, you know,
maternal health being a woman, you know, andbabies.
I felt like that was the, happiest field ofmedicine at the time, you know, like when the
babies are born and the moms, of course, therewere some there were some not so happy.
Happy times.
Absolutely.
Times.
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Yes.
But, you know, in general, that's where I was,gravitating towards.
But somewhere along the line, I think, youknow, somewhere along the line, I started to
get more interested in internal medicine.
And, you know, this was really shaped by thepeople who are around me.
Again, you know, the mentors during my Harlemresidency.
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And, you know, particularly, I remember oneparticular, there was one fellow that I had who
He was a I was a resident.
He was a fellow at the time.
Just kept on encouraging me, giving me lots of,positive feedback and, you know, told me that I
really cared for my patients and so howpassionate that was about the treatment and
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outcome and you know, so, yeah, I think thatreally galvanized my movement towards, you
know, pursuing field in internal medicine and,I mean, nephrology.
Specifically.
Yeah.
Because I love our next question.
Like, you know, for those of you who, are notfamiliar with the the field of medicine and the
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different steps.
So after, you graduate from medical school,then you decide on and, as well, kind of like a
specialty.
Right?
Yes.
And you I'm sorry to interrupt you, Tamara, butyou have to kind of specified medical school in
some places.
It comes in up to 7 years.
You know?
Absolutely.
And this
is the combined for dependent honor.
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If you're in the United States, Usually, you'lldo the 4 years of undergrad unless you're in a
combined program, and then you go into medicalschool.
A lot of, other countries, because the samething, like, in, Jamaica, where I'm from, you
know, UE, hey, all my UE people.
And then, like, you know, in Nigeria, some ofthese, other schools, they they made that
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decision from, like, high school.
And then you're combined.
Yes.
So your combination of medical school and yourkind of undergrad occurs at the same time.
Right.
And so once you graduate, at least for us herein the United States, right, everybody
graduate, you have that MD or MD equivalents.
That's, according to whatever school that yougo to, and then you decide on a specialty.
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So now the specialty is internal medicine,which is, you know, our general medical doctor
takes you all of adults.
Right?
A lot of us have internal medicine as ourprimary care do that, then she went and she did
a subspecialty So her subspecialty, that meansshe went and got further training, and her
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further training is in nephrology.
Which is the art and the study and thetreatment of kidney diseases.
So now we're trying to figure out, like, I'veeven done all of this studying for and and
working in internal medicine.
You decide, I wanna learn more, and I wanna gointo aprology.
So what made you, you know, say, okay.
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Yeah.
I wanna go more into that track right there.
Well, you know, so, yes, you know, that's avery good summary right there that you have,
you know, after doing your med school for 7years, and then you go into residency for 3
years, and then you decide that you want tosubspecialized for another 2 to 3 years
depending on what subspecialty they are goinginto.
And, you know, internal medicine, is reallybroad.
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It's, the study of all the adults, organs and,nephrology kind of hones in on the study of
function just as you said, but, you know, withI think one thing I found really unique about
nephrology was that it's kept you in touch
with the other aspects of internal medicine.
You know?
So because the
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kidneys so, you know, relevant.
They, they they have a lot of functions andthey control all aspects of the Obadan.
And so you have to be in tune.
You have to stay connected with all otheraspects of internal medicine and medicine in
general.
To be able to be a nephrologist.
So some people call nephrologist the super, youknow, intent.
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I don't want to get political here.
It always connected.
You guys they consider.
You guys are managing the asset in the basis.
So for modern nights, for all the wordlistening.
And you remember enrolling yourselves back intochemistry in high school as to this, and you
were like, oh gosh.
I'm so glad.
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That I got through that test.
This is what they do.
They are so good at it, and they're not onlydoing that just to pass test.
This is helping us in our lives.
You know?
Right.
Yeah.
So but then the thing is too that the kidneyshave so many different functions So many.
Such as for those with high blood pressure.
(12:49):
Controlling.
Yeah.
So when we're really sitting and thinking abouthow do we control people's blood pressure you
know, the kidneys are one of those hiddenhidden things and hidden organs within our body
that a lot of people don't think about.
That really helps.
So go ahead.
And, you know, when you are, like, here helpingso many, you're passionate about making sure
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that people's keep their blood pressure undercontrol, understand the function that the
kidney has within the body that we're notthinking about.
Like, you know, this is just so fascinating.
Right.
At least some of the things that you thoughtabout when you're like, yes.
This is what I
wanna do.
Yes.
Yes.
Exactly.
I mean, you know, the kidneys, they helpregulating blood pressure, blood fluid, you
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know, some hormones are produced by thekidneys, hormones that are involved with
producing your red blood cells, and keepingyour bones and teeth, you know, like vitamin D,
strong and healthy.
The kidneys help to regulate importantminerals, the sodium, potassium, phosphorus,
you know, a lot of, yeah, elements in the bodyare regulated by the kidney.
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And you know, so you you need to kind of know alot, to be able to you need to stay in touch,
you know, with all aspects of medicine.
So So that's one reason.
I I wanted to stay within the nephrology field.
And another reason is, you know, there's somany different settings that you can work in as
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a nephrologist, you know, if you prefer theslower paced setting, you know, and, you know,
talking with your patients, you could dooutpatient clinical setting.
If you like the faster pace, you know, setting.
You could walk in the hospital setting or inthe critical care unit as well because, you
know, there are a lot of reasons why peoplewould, you know, end up in the intensive care
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unit.
People with kidney issues end up in theintensive care unit and they may require
dialysis or renal replacement therapy.
And, you know, if you if for those who reallywanna just focus on People who have end stage,
what we call end stage renal disease, reallyadvanced chronic kidney disease.
The kidneys have continued have completelyfailed and are no longer able to perform their
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function.
They now have to get on dialysis, which is amachine that helps to actually perform the
function of the kidney that is no longerworking.
You know, so that's a separate field working inthe dialysis unit as well.
And then you have the unit after.
So some people, most many people nowadays arelucky enough to get a transfer.
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You know?
Yes.
Yes.
And so that's another field of nephrology.
You can go on and subspecialize to become atransplant nephrologist.
So I'm who take care of people who havereceived kidneys.
And then still within the field of nephrology,there's research.
You know?
Mhmm.
If you just decide, okay.
I just want to focus on just publishing dataor, you know, doing clinical trials, with
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patients, then you also have that aspect tofocused on.
So it's really broad.
You know, it doesn't narrow your scope.
You you feel like all all brain cells are fire
Absolutely.
I love it.
I never never a boring moment.
Never a boring moment.
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You guys are absolutely one of the rock starswithin the medical field.
And it's, like, yes, we always bow down to thecrowd.
So now this is wonderful.
You know, you've done that and you've decided,I, you know, wanna go ahead and, delve deeper
into the field of nephrology.
(16:35):
But then now you decide that you also wanna usethose skill sets to help those within your
community.
And you, along with your husband, you have nowopened up this wonderful practice, which is
called younger self MD.
So tell us, how did that come about?
(16:57):
So, you know, the name younger self.
So men younger self MD is a practice that isfocused on primary and secondary prevention.
Primary prevention of chronic of chronicmedical conditions, including chronic kidney
disease.
You know, is defined as trying to implementstrategies that will prevent the onset of these
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diseases in the first place.
So, you know, education strategies, forexample, or immunization against, infectious
diseases, you know, these are examples ofprimary, interventions.
I I'm echoing.
Can you hear me echo?
No.
Okay.
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And then secondary prevention is, treating thepresence of the when the disease is already
existing.
End when you're trying to prevent imminentdamage from occurring as a result.
And so that's what we, you know, that's thewhole concept of, this medical practice.
It, you know, for me, I came up we came up withthe name.
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You know, my husband and I, because I found outthat, depending on the culture that you're in,
as we age, we tend to some things that's tohappen, some things that's to shift in some
cultures, And I feel like the people start todevelop on what I define as, unhealthy aging
(18:31):
behaviors, you know.
Oh.
You start to have parsley.
You have you you get, you know, you startgetting involved in unhealthy coping
mechanisms, you know, like drinking excessivealcohol, cigarette smoking, And, you know, as
we get older, if you're in this, what I calltoxic culture, you start to have developed
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sedentary lifestyle.
You know?
Right.
Couch, potato, sit down, watch TV, and, youknow, the ones they need physical activity.
And I feel like all that this behavior coupledwith stress and inflammation, you know, starts
to make the, manifestation of all this chronicmedical condition Right.
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Come up, you know, that's when you start havingpeople come down with, you know, diabetes, high
blood pressure, and chronic kidney disease,because then they start to neglect themselves,
you know, they don't take good care of allthese other conditions that can cause your the
kidneys to fail, and then they becomedepressed.
And, you know, it's just a
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This is
yeah.
Spiral.
It's a downward spiral.
Absolutely.
And so the name, younger self MD was born,maintaining youthful exuberance, you know, as
they say, number is just age is just thenumber.
Exactly.
We've all had we've all had a lot of eitherpeople within our families, or even patients
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that you see the number and then you look atthe person, then you're like, woah.
The agent really is just the number that personis youthful.
Like you said, exuberant.
Exactly.
And it's just the number on that file.
However, the opposite can occur.
Right?
If one doesn't take care of themselves, you'llstill look and see that the age and the person
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it doesn't correlates.
And therefore I got
All of a sudden, yes, all of a sudden, they'llsay, oh, I'm I'm forty.
You know, I have not winding down unless theend of my life.
Happy, you
know, wind I'm winding down.
You know?
And so it's all about the art to tued and hasenhanced the name.
Yes.
Number sale.
(20:44):
I I love it.
Yeah.
At 40s, at 40s, at 40s, not winding up.
If you look at those, who are leaving thecountry.
Yeah.
I mean,
it's a matter of, is the glass half full or isthe glass half empty,
you know, in any issues?
Yes.
If you
could start, like, running and and runningcorporation.
Most of those who run-in corporations were intheir seventies, and I thinking like, oh, when
(21:06):
I was in my forties, I was winding down.
But it stands at mindset.
You better get my youthful younger self MD toget something.
Alright.
Exactly.
So that's why we come in.
You know, we are using a, the integrative, youknow, functional and integrative medicine
approach.
(21:26):
You know, integrative medicine is a combinationof conventional medical, you know, in which
Mhmm.
Relies heavily on surgery and drugs withnonconventional therapeutic modalities like,
you know, mindfulness based reductiontechniques, you know, lifestyle, modification,
(21:50):
diet re changes and and some supplements.
And and there are other, you know, othermodalities that are involved as well.
And so a combination to treat the individual asa whole.
Absolutely.
Which, you know, this is a It's kind of areturn back to what medicine was.
(22:11):
You know, we call it now.
We're calling it nontraditional medicine, andit really should do it in traditional.
Because when we really thought about theorigin, we did keep in mind lifestyle and its
impact on the patients.
We did shift from that to what most people now,as you mentioned, are conventional medicine,
(22:32):
where we're, you know, shifting to when weshifted I should say 2 a, b.
Okay.
This is wrong.
Take this medication.
This is wrong.
Take that medication.
This is wrong.
Do that particular procedure.
However, now this integrated approach that weare returning to is a it's a great way to
really look because A lot of our patients arereally looking for, well, how is it that I can
(22:57):
be a part of my treatment plan?
Right?
Well, some would like to say, well, what is itthat I can do to help?
And with this integrated approach, that's agreat way for the patients to really feel
involved and to really take a little bit of theownership of their health, you know, lifestyle
modification.
Mhmm.
I wanna do this.
How do I reduce my stress and that you saidthose are the way the mindfulness techniques
(23:21):
help in order to really get the patient to beat their best.
And in doing so, what are we doing?
We're preventing a lot of this chronic medicaldiseases that are out there.
So I love love love love love it.
Yes.
And and, you know, this is really important,because, you know, I don't know if you're aware
that 1 in 6 Americans have at least one chronicmedical condition.
(23:46):
And, you know, from the health systemperspective, it can be very expensive.
Absolutely.
The finance, it's very expensive.
You know, prevention is definitely, cheaperthan.
That is for both of you.
Right?
And the prevention is better than a pound ofcure.
Is it better and cheaper?
Okay.
So For diabetes, the estimated cost alonehealth care cost is about 327,000,000,000.
(24:14):
Would it be?
Yes.
1,000,000,000.
And and high blood pressure is estimated tocost about 80 $1,000,000,000 per year in the
UnitedHealthcare system per year.
Like, this is a recurring annual, you know,expense And, you know, from the patient's
perspective,
(24:35):
you
know, there are a lot of in in addition to thedirect and indirect.
So they're direct costs and they're indirectcosts.
Like, you know, let me give an example ofsomeone who's on dialysis from end stage renal
disease.
Okay?
Indirect costs include missing work becausethey have to be on the dialysis machine for 3
hours.
Tamara, did you know this?
(24:56):
They have to be on the machine for 3 hours,three times a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
or Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday.
Mhmm.
And, you know, sometimes They have to havetheir family members or, you know, some other
person transport them or the health system hasto transport them
to
get these treatments.
And, you know, they miss work.
(25:17):
The family members miss work.
You know, there's a lot of disability,associated with it.
They're tired.
You know, there's fatigue and there's increaserisk for stroke and heart disease with this.
So it's, overall decrease quality of life.
There's so much cost directly to the patientdirectly on India.
(25:37):
Not even meant to the mental toll that it takeson them.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And simple, you know, life change, you know,lifestyle change program programs have been
shown to reduce these, medical conditions andtheir complications by about 50 to 90%.
Oh, wow.
(25:58):
I know.
Right?
Imagine the cost savings.
You know?
Imagine if you could act early on and preventall these things from occurring, you know?
Let me give you another specific example.
I found on study that showed that regular eyeexams
Mhmm.
And treatment can prevent up to 90% ofblindness.
(26:19):
Due to diabetes.
Mhmm.
I mean, isn't that outstanding?
Yes.
It's and it's an annual exam.
Yes.
One day for maybe 2 hours.
2 hours out of out of the day one day a year,and it can prevent vision loss.
(26:40):
How powerful?
That is so powerful.
That is something that so I feel like, youknow, our mission at younger self MD is a very
important one.
And, we're gonna take it very seriously.
Yes.
I definitely def the as we mentioned, you know,we're highlighting, like, you know, prevention,
it's not just that you are helping to maintaina healthy lifestyle, but it's also very cost
(27:07):
effective because you're saying that, you know,preventing, like, the what we are spending and,
yearly on diabetes and also on high bloodpressure and if you really think about it, that
statistic is about, like, 300 and something1,000,000,000 a year on diabetes and, like,
80,000,000,000 on hypertension.
(27:28):
Yes.
But most people have both.
Yes.
Yeah.
So as you really think about it.
In fact, that's that's another major one.
You know, when you're talking about the effectson the patient, the high polypharmacy, you
know, they they have multiple comorbidities Youknow?
And you feel highly appreciated, maybe on threepills.
For diabetes, you may be on 3.
(27:50):
And by the time you have 5, you know, you'reall of a sudden, you're on 15 to 20 pills.
And then there's a chance that these pills aregoing to interact.
Then, you know, you start to have falls,
fractures, such.
I mean, the ER is the package.
Everything.
Yes.
But Yes.
And it just daily it really adds up.
(28:10):
And and therefore, you know, looking at ways inorder to help to prevent all of this, as you
said, that with your practice, That's howimportant this is for the not just financially,
but also for the life.
The quality of life that you're extending, notthe, oh, I'm 40.
(28:31):
I'm about to go down the hill.
No.
It's 40.
I'm stepping it up.
That's what it
is.
That is that's the mentality.
I'm eighty, and I'm just starting.
I'm eighty, and I'm just beginning.
I'm just sorry.
I've met some of those eighty year roles
iced tea.
They're doing marathons.
Some of them are, you know, they feel like,listen.
They're about to do their 8, you know, eightiesmarathon.
(28:52):
I think you seen them.
I kinda Yeah.
That's so true.
So recently, I met an eight year old, actually,when I went for my son's, performance.
He performed in his school, and, he was on theLion King Show.
He was a star on the Lion King show.
And so I met this eighty old man who wasambulating and working without any, inter, you
(29:17):
know, low no kings
or anything like that.
And he pro he was very proud to tell me that hewas on just one pill.
You know, that I know, right?
I was like, you know, sir, you are so uniquebecause a lot of people that we see At this
age, many, many times, on a lot of othermedications and having to deal with a lot of
(29:41):
stuff.
So It's truly a blessing for you to be as fitas you are.
And I think that it all reflects all theinterventions that he took early on, you know,
and he I I always find it fascinating to reallyevaluate those kind of people who've been able
to live such
a great life.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And then they're coming in.
(30:02):
And then so now at the beginning of each of thepen relays, they do also they have a pen
relays.
Annually in, Pennsylvania.
And they do have, they do also have the, Ithink, the eighty year olds or so.
Who do a little sprint at the beginning of therelays.
So they, you know, are out there.
(30:22):
It all is how you treat yourself during youryounger years.
And it reflects in the quality of life thatyou'll have during the latter part of your
year.
So we're talking to all about all these eightyyear roles.
Who do learn phones.
We're going to bring it back to you, DoctorDidi.
So with self care, what are you doing for selfcare?
(30:44):
I know, you know, this is a this is a goodquestion.
So for self care, I love to travel.
I love to travel to new places.
Explore, relax, unwind.
I love traveling with my family and, and andsometimes alone.
And, you know, it's it's really exciting Itkind of, rejuvenates my spirit when I do that.
(31:04):
Another form of self care for me is cooking.
I just love to cook.
I think it's because it brings back a lot of,fond childhood memories for me because, growing
up I I'm the 1st of 4, and my siblings, youknow, would bring them all together,
and
we would I would assign tasks because You dothe carrots.
(31:24):
You do the, you know, do this.
You you wish to work.
And then we all cook together and, you know,all enjoy the rewards of our hard work.
Together and do it.
And our parents would be so proud of us.
And, you know, so it was it was really abonding experience for myself and my family,
and we, you know, would use that opportunity toconnect and share our stories, tackle serious
(31:48):
issues.
You know, they say whether it's food.
All issues can be resolved.
I love it.
And so and so now in my new family, I do thesame thing.
My kids And, you know, my husband, we try to, Imean, we're very we're all busy, so we can't do
this every single day.
But, you know, once in a while.
Mhmm.
Yes.
I I really enjoy mixing and creating a littlebit of this, a little bit of that.
(32:12):
And, you know, we all kinda have conversationsaround the dining table.
And and and build this lovely delicious, youknow, delicious to me.
They're delicious meals.
And I I always get, you know, good complimentsfrom my son.
He was like, oh, Mommy, I just enjoyed.
I love it when you cook for me.
I enjoy day, you know, and my daughter's too,you know, like, so, you know, it's there's that
(32:39):
that for me is, self care.
Love it's bond and creating bonds, creatingfamilial bond, familial traditions, which
you'll pass on.
The conversations, tackling issues, having funlaughing, and having those moments are
absolutely all positive ways.
(32:59):
For self care.
You're releasing all those positive hormones,oxytocin, you're bonded together.
Yeah.
Endorphins.
You know, the high.
Whoo.
I wonder what tastes like with dopamine.
Oh, yeah.
Give me more.
Give me more.
Yeah.
And the smells.
Too.
The fragrance is.
And if if you
use a combination of, you know, ginger, garlicspices, well, some people
(33:20):
are still making me hungry.
Yes.
It's truly like, you
know, all your senses are activated.
What what is your form of self care that's thetermite?
Well, my form of self care is what I'm doingright now.
Interviewing, getting to know each other,bonding with people, that's my form of self
care.
In addition to hanging out with my family, andmy kids are younger.
(33:43):
They can't cook.
I'm not having them burned out my house anymorewith health care.
They're 3.
Oh, oh, oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
At 3 and 5.
And the name of self care, I'll preserve thishouse.
So So that's my former self care.
So now here is my other really fun questionthat I love to ask.
(34:05):
Oh my gass.
Oh, Doctor d.
If you weren't a doctor, what would you be?
So let me think about this.
If I was a doctor, I probably would.
Yes.
If I wasn't, I probably would, have gone intosome form of computer science or the tech
(34:31):
industry.
Yes.
Because, you know, my dad but this nicecomputer for us really early on.
And and then the internet wasn't really asreadily available as it is today.
So we were heavily reliant on the CDs.
Remember the CDs on
the floppy this in the CD?
Yes.
Yeah.
(34:51):
And so I had I had 2 encyclopedias,
the
Britannica and dankato.
And I would just sluck them in and, you know,spend the whole time going through everything,
reading the whole encyclopedia over and overand over again.
Right.
And and and so it was it was really my pasttime.
(35:12):
I enjoyed, in doing that.
And and I think I would have, yeah, in my in mynext life.
Coming back and and all in the computerindustry.
Yeah.
I mean, I or maybe I could do some hybrid rightnow.
You know, it's not too late.
I could do some kind
of trick and, yes, you know.
Most of the time, whenever I ask that question,a lot of the answers are things that people are
(35:38):
kind of incorporating in their lives, but theydidn't realize they're incorporating it in
their lives.
So look back and reflect and see if youactually are incorporating some of those same
things.
It's like a pediatric botanical portion oflife, your computerized portion.
So it really is really an introspectivequestion, and it's also a fun question.
(36:00):
So alrighty.
Now we have a lot of people who have beenwatching, who jumped on, you know, they've
really enjoyed this conversation getting toknow Doctor Didi And they're like, you know
what?
I really like her, and I'd love to have her asmy doctor to have her as the one who takes care
of my loved one.
I'd like to be part of that younger self MDbecause, a, remember the number.
(36:24):
Let them know where can they find you?
Well.
So, our practice is going to open officially inJuly.
Vip waiting list?
VIP
waiting list.
Yes.
The website is www@youngassaultmd.com.
So that's y0nger.
(36:45):
Selfmd.com.
And, it's going to be located in Kennesawaquatz Georgia.
And and so come pay us a visit.
Just imagine if you could restore yourbeautiful energy and take back control of your
health, body, and mind.
You know, we would love to be a part of thisjourney with you.
(37:07):
So come join us.
We can also be found on instagramatyoungasofthemd.uhuhyoungasoftyoungaselfdot MD
and on, on Facebook?
On Facebook?
Yes.
On Facebook, younger self MD.
As well.
Oh, wonderful.
And I'm also on LinkedIn with
Oh, there we go.
(37:28):
Yeah.
I'm on LinkedIn with my name.
Doctor Ndidiamaka Obadan.
And I also have a YouTube channel, younger selfMD.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
So for yeah.
We have many, many ways to getting contact withDoctor Didi and to be part of her younger self
MD crowd, be part of her VIP waiting list.
(37:50):
Right?
Do they just go to young yourselfmd.com?
Yeah.
Start a bit waiting list so that you are thefirst to know what's going when she opened
those doors.
I think that if you go to the website, you'llsee they have a lot.
Her and her husband have a lot in store toreally help to preserve that younger self of
(38:11):
you.
Right?
And you can also follow her on the manydifferent social media and panels or,
throughout social media.
So we have our Instagram, younger self.md.
You can find her on Facebook at Young YourselfMD and also on YouTube at Young Yourself MD.
And if you would love to connect with doctor,Indeed on LinkedIn.
(38:34):
UC, there's her name right there, and her namewill also be in the show notes for those who
are listening.
So keep in contact with her if you are in theKennesaw, Georgia area.
Wonderful practice is coming soon in July of2022.
Alrighty.
Doctor Didi, thank you so much for spendingthis time with us.
We had a wonderful time with you.
(38:57):
Oh, thank you.
Thank you so much for having me.
Thank you so much.
It was truly an incredible time.
I really enjoyed myself.
It was so much fun.
See, I told you.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
Wonderful time talking all about all theaspects of life, taking us all the way from her
useless time when she got the planted that, youknow, see that you could be a great doctor
(39:20):
seeing this lovely, vision and also seeingthose around her her wonderful uncle, taking
great care of people traversing the path tomedicine from Nigeria to New York to South
Carolina now opening a wonderful practice inthe lovely state of Georgia right there in
(39:40):
Kenesaw area.
So thank you so much for spending this lovelytime with us.
For those of you who love, love, love thisinterview, Do not hesitate to give her a 5 star
review.
Yes.
If you do have an Apple device, jump on and lether know how wonderful this interview was.
We learned a lot about preventative diseasesand how we're gonna make sure that we stay
(40:04):
younger because we're gonna be the eighty yearold saying that I just ran that marathon.
We're only on fun field when someone comes upto us in their school, their kid's school
function.
Right?
Look, by the way, you see all of this?
That's right.
I'm doing very,
very well.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So for those of you guys who are alsolistening, remember there is a we have a
(40:26):
surprise coming up for those of you guys wholove the Dotsu Care Show.
I'm intrigued.
I'm not interested.
Yes.
Coming up.
We do have a surprise.
And because it is a surprise, we cannot tellyou.
I just look forward for the last few episodes,and we will be dropping.
Oh, this wonderful surprise on you.
Thank you all for listening and for watching,and we will see you guys next.
(40:47):
Time.
Bye bye.
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