May 26, 2025 • 26 mins
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We dive deep into the essential topic of skin cancer prevention and sun protection methods. As summer approaches, it's crucial to understand how to protect yourself from harmful UV rays that can lead to skin cancer, a condition that affects one in five Americans in their lifetime.
• One in five Americans will develop skin cancer in their lifetime
• Seek shade between 10am-2pm when the sun's rays are strongest
• Wear protective clothing including lightweight long sleeves, pants, and wide-brimmed hats
• Choose broad-spectrum, SPF 30+ water-resistant sunscreen
• Apply one ounce (a shot glass amount) to cover an adult body
• Reapply sunscreen every two hours or after swimming/sweating
• SPF 30 blocks 97% of UVB rays, but no sunscreen blocks 100% of rays
• Babies under six months should avoid sun exposure completely
• For sunburns: stay indoors, keep skin moisturized, drink extra water, and don't pop blisters
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Ed Delesky, MD (00:03):
Hi, welcome to your checkup.
We are the Patient EducationPodcast, where we bring
conversations from the doctor'soffice to your ears.
On this podcast, we try tobring medicine closer to its
patients.
I'm Ed Delesky, a familymedicine doctor in the
Philadelphia area.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (00:17):
And I'm Nicole Aruffo.
Ed Delesky, MD (00:18):
I'm a nurse and we are so thankful you were able
to join us here again today, soI guess the Catholics could
have come up with somethingbetter than unleavened bread for
the body of Christ.
I get the whole thing Like, Iget why it's all of that, but I
was just thinking that, you know, might grab more.
(00:38):
A rolling stone doesn't gathera lot of moss.
I don't know if that's the thething I'm trying to say.
They should have picked thecheese, because since we
recorded last, a new pope waspicked, and couldn't they have
picked a nice manchego orsomething you know I, or a
(00:59):
cooper sharp?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (01:01):
something maybe we should take it up with
le.
Is that the name he picked?
Ed Delesky, MD (01:05):
Yes, that's the name he picked.
Maybe I'm sending a pigeon, acarrier pigeon, to the Vatican.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (01:11):
Maybe we should go.
Ed Delesky, MD (01:13):
Maybe we should go to the Vatican and pitch this
idea to Pope Leo and see whathappens.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (01:18):
I feel like he'd be down for it.
He seems like a cool guy.
Ed Delesky, MD (01:22):
Who wouldn't?
I mean it would put more delisin business.
It would keep business boomingbecause, like now, we have to go
to get, go to the deli to getour cheese for sunday.
Right, I mean, I think this isa good idea yeah, I think it's
great.
Thank you, you're welcome inother news um, we spent the last
week at the beach and we had aphenomenal time.
(01:43):
We played one of the mostimportant sports that there is
known to man pickleball.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (01:51):
I didn't know if you were going to say
pickleball or golf.
Ed Delesky, MD (01:54):
Oh well, I mean there's.
We'll start with the pickleball.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (01:57):
Pickleball was so much fun.
That was my first time everplaying and I don't know why I
didn't get on this pickleballbandwagon sooner, but I'm happy
I'm here now.
I also don't fully know all ofthe rules and I don't know that
I'll ever put much effort intolearning them, because my
primary goal and focus, muchlike golf, is just making
(02:19):
contact with the ball.
Ed Delesky, MD (02:21):
Yeah, which I?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (02:21):
did a lot of and I thought I was pretty good
and it's fun enough doing that.
We don't need to.
You know, keep score, figureout when you can and can't be in
the kitchen.
Exactly, you know.
Ed Delesky, MD (02:33):
I think that's, uh, that naming on the courts,
but really it's called thekitchen.
There's two lines, you know,for those listening shaking
their fists like I playpickleball all the time.
These losers don't know.
No, we don't.
But I watched a crisp twominute YouTube video and learned
what I could to direct thegroup enough.
Um, it's fun.
I mean, we were up against acrisp wind, a brigantine clearly
(02:57):
the windiest city in America.
And it was a that was a toughwind to go up against One side.
You kiss the ball to the otherside and it airmails across the
court and the other side.
You have to put your entirebutt into the hit and then you
barely get it over.
You served it like four timesinto the net.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (03:18):
I know I was hitting it so hard.
More gusto, nick, more More.
Ed Delesky, MD (03:23):
But no, it was a phenomenal time.
We have pickleball equipment.
We got to look around in ourarea and see where we can play.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (03:31):
We left the pickleball equipment at the
beach house, though, yes, I haveto go back next weekend and get
some or get it.
Oh wait, we also have to talkabout how that troll said that
you cheated on your wife with me.
Yep, like, left your wife for anurse at work.
(03:51):
Yes, we're reading it likeunless you have like a second
family that I don't know aboutno eddie allegedly cheated on
his wife with me and left herand his family for me and let it
be known this was an internettroll that was like when I was,
like you know, promoting thepodcast neither of us has ever
been married before.
Ed Delesky, MD (04:12):
Right, we are getting married, and it will be
the first time for both of usright and this guy is like yeah,
you left this, you left yourfamily for this nurse that
you're doing a podcast with, andI was like this and then he
called me out by name no onewants to listen to your podcast,
ed.
He's like you're a cheater, Ed.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (04:31):
What is going on?
Ed Delesky, MD (04:33):
So I swiftly blocked that guy and the person
who laughed after that on ourthreads account, which we're
very active on.
If you haven't figured that out, yeah, that was crazy.
I have come across a lot ofnice people on threads and the
internet who are like verygrateful for what we're doing
here and they're like, wow, thisis so great, haven't seen
anything like this before.
(04:54):
But then there's a coupleknuckleheads out there like that
.
That it's.
It could have been worse, thoughit could have been so worse and
I'm not used to it, so I lostlike a little tiny bit of sleep
on it.
Do you feel like you're?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (05:06):
on like a Bravo show at the center of a
cheating scandal.
Ed Delesky, MD (05:10):
No, not one bit at all.
No, I don't feel like that atall.
We're not speaking this intoexistence.
Is that how that works?
I mean like, so you know, we'regoing to dazzle our way into
our newest TV show.
We're watching Secret Lives ofMormon Wives.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (05:28):
So good.
Ed Delesky, MD (05:30):
And this woman on there has a thing where on
Sunday she facilitates a chatcalled Confessional Sunday or
whatever.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (05:37):
Yeah, sinner, sunday Sinner.
Ed Delesky, MD (05:40):
Sunday.
If you haven't looked up thisshow, you got it because it's
like for the culture piece.
It's so interesting, but peopleare putting stuff about the
castmates on there that, likehis or isn't true, and it's so
salacious.
It heightens the entireconversation.
I don't know.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (05:57):
She'll get like write ins from like
anonymous, random people.
And there have now been twostorylines where she's like, oh,
I got this people.
And there have now been twostorylines where she's like, oh,
I got this right in fromsomeone who says like she's like
slept with like one of thegirls in the group's husband and
like then it becomes a wholething because like that person
was like probably just lyingright there's stirring up so
(06:19):
much trouble.
Ed Delesky, MD (06:19):
So that's I don't know that, and she's just
like begging for more attention.
When she's doing that, I'm likewhy are you creating so many
problems for people?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (06:30):
She's got to keep her spot for season three.
Ed Delesky, MD (06:32):
That's true.
They're cutthroat in that way.
They're like can I come backinto the group?
And they're like, yeah, let'svote in front of you right now.
No one votes for that to happen, it's the ketamine.
Okay for like that to happen.
It's.
It's the ketamine, okay, yep,I'm glad you brought it up.
So these people on this showcan't like drink coffee, they
can't drink alcohol.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (06:52):
It's against their religion and like very
religious in that way where theylike don't do drugs, they don't
drink alcohol, they don't drinkcoffee, but they like drink a
lot of soda, which is like alsoa lot of caffeine but whatever.
But then so they'll be like, no, we're, like you know, straight
edge, like soda's our vice.
We don't do anything exactly,but then they go to these I
(07:15):
don't even know what you wouldcall it infusion clinic things
and have these like ketaminesessions.
Yep, just like, just like.
Here I go really hanging a,hanging a left there I don't see
how the two align.
Ed Delesky, MD (07:31):
The other thing is um when they go get their
like esthetician treatment andthey're getting their botox yeah
, when they get botox and theyall get like, they all huff the
nitrous and they're like showingthe sun.
They're like, oh yeah, we onceagain.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (07:48):
We don't drink alcohol, we can't drink
coffee, can't drink coffee buthere's the laughing, laughing
gas, though just to take theedge off yeah, it's um, seems
very interesting to me.
Ed Delesky, MD (07:59):
I'm not exactly sure how it works.
I love it, but it's fun, it'sgood to see on tv and they um,
well, I don't know if it's goodto see on tv, it's entertaining
for us if you stumble upon it.
But they create so much conflictwithin themselves and they're
all sober like no alcoholwhatsoever yeah, usually when
you're watching a reality showand there's some sort of like
(08:20):
confrontation or whatever,people have been like drinking
or you know it's at a party orwhatever, but these girls are
stone cold sober yep doing allthese crazy things, getting into
all these crazy fights and then, like the guys were fighting,
but then, like you, can actuallyfollow their train of thought,
(08:41):
because there's logic and reasonbehind their fighting, which is
, yeah, that's true like they'llbe getting like all like
heightened and mad, and thenthey'll be like yes, I
understand where you're comingfrom, but this is what I'm
trying to say but thiscounterpoint to your
counterpoint in the subplot ofthis conversation, I'm like wow,
this is, this is different thanwhat we've often been consuming
(09:02):
.
So that was that.
That's that golfing was fun.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (09:11):
Yeah, it was rusty on the first hole yeah,
rusty on, like the first threeholes, I would say yeah, but
then a couple times like I feel,like when I made contact with
the golf ball, it goes straight,yeah, and relatively far for
someone who doesn't regularlygolf.
Ed Delesky, MD (09:28):
I mean listen, when was the last time you
golfed?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (09:34):
Two summers ago.
Ed Delesky, MD (09:35):
Exactly so.
If we did this a little bitmore, found ourselves a driving
range that wasn't beingdeconstructed.
Get out there, do it a littlebit more.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (09:45):
I think we'd be pretty good.
Also, maybe if I wasn't using agolf club that was meant for
someone who's a foot taller thanme.
Ed Delesky, MD (09:52):
Which is fun, because I'm using a golf club
that's meant for someone who'slike eight inches shorter than
me.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (09:58):
Yeah, why do we do that?
Ed Delesky, MD (10:00):
Well, because we don't?
It's not a consistent enoughhobby that we don't.
We haven't purchased our owngolf clubs, we're still using
the ones that my dad had.
Yeah, so that's why?
Because we only go once everytwo years at this point.
So I don't think it quite.
You know, como se dice, Maybewhen we move back to the suburbs
(10:26):
yeah, because I mean that's anactivity that you're gonna do
all the time in the suburbs.
Yeah, that, these runs thatwe've been going on, we've been
running a lot more recentlytogether some nice peloton runs.
A little quirk on the app, younever mind, but the these
peloton runs have been so greatand once again, we just love the
(10:48):
love the app, love the program,we love doing it together and
that was really fun.
You get to do it on the beachtoo.
Low tide can't do that at hightide, slippery sand.
Oh yeah, I know we were walkingout there and I was like, oh
wow, it would be impossible torun in these conditions.
But like in the morning, inthese conditions it was like
(11:10):
sloping slanted sand.
Did you like that alliteration?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (11:15):
Yeah, that was great.
Ed Delesky, MD (11:16):
Thank you.
I'm a poet, oh my God.
Well, it's been about 11minutes and I think our audience
is eager to learn 11 minutes,and I think our audience is
eager to learn what we are goingto talk about today.
So what are we going to talkabout today, nick?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (11:29):
Today we're talking about skin cancer and
sun protection.
Awesome, which will be a timelyepisode, since we're at
Memorial Day in the beginning ofsummer.
Ed Delesky, MD (11:39):
Excellent that sounds great.
All right.
So sun protection is important.
You know, this week we'respending some time down at the
beach and it made us think to dothis episode.
So when you think of sunprotection, what do you think
that is the main thing you'retrying to prevent.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (12:02):
Skin cancer.
Ed Delesky, MD (12:03):
Yeah, Skin cancer and for our vein people
out there aging as well.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (12:09):
Can't have aging and all of this kind of
seems like okay, like none ofwhat we're about to say is a hot
take and stay out of the sun.
If you're in the sun, wear asunscreen, which we'll talk more
about, but one in fiveAmericans will develop skin
cancer at some point in theirlife, so it sounds like the
people need a reminder.
Ed Delesky, MD (12:31):
Yeah, it's the most common type of cancer and
so it definitely deserves a lotof time and attention, which
we're going to give it today,awesome.
So there are a couple essentialprotective measures that you
can take, essential protectivemeasures that you can take, one
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of them being seeking shade whenwe're trying to reduce our
chances of sun exposure and skincancer.
So between 10 am and 2 pm, thesun's rays are the strongest.
Best time to tan, the best timeto tan and the worst time to get
skin cancer, and so avoidingthe sun during those times is
probably the best way to tan andthe worst time to get skin
cancer, and so avoiding the sunduring those times is probably
the best way to go.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (13:12):
So what if you're not avoiding the sun or
you're like us and we're on thebeach between those times?
Ed Delesky, MD (13:17):
Yeah, I mean realistically.
I know like we're, we got towalk the walk here.
I guess, realistically, youshould be wearing sun protective
clothing and I remember gettinglots of lectures in med school
about this that, like you'll seedermatologists out there, they
are wearing lightweight clothinglong sleeve shirts, pants, wide
brim hats and sunglasses, allto offer them extra protection
(13:40):
from the sun.
But there's one big one thatyou know is not clothing at all.
That is a big conversation.
What are we thinking about here?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (13:51):
Sounds like we're talking about sunscreen.
Ed Delesky, MD (13:54):
We are, and so can you tell us a little bit
about.
So who needs sunscreen?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (14:00):
Everybody needs sunscreen, regardless of
your skin tone, age, gender,whether you think you don't need
sunscreen because you reallydon't burn, Like I thought.
For my entire adolescent andmost of my adult life thus far,
except in the recent years, I'vebeen really good about wearing
sunscreen all the time.
(14:21):
But you know that took me asolid 30 years to get to that
point.
Ed Delesky, MD (14:25):
So Right, and you know, like you mentioned
earlier, one in five Americansdevelop skin cancer in their
lifetime, which is reallydisturbing.
But not only does not usingsunscreen lead to that outcome,
but using sunscreen also helpspremature skin aging, which is a
bit of the zeitgeist, Don't?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (14:44):
want that and you know any of the girlies who
want to shoot up their face,freeze your muscles under there
to prevent wrinkles.
That's all good and fine, butyou can't do that and then not
wear sunscreen because you can'tfix it from the inside and then
have bad skin on the outside.
Botox can fix your skin.
Ed Delesky, MD (15:07):
Botox can fix your skin.
So, yeah, so when you'rethinking about choosing the
right sunscreen, what sorts ofrecommendations and all of this
conversation has been and I'llbrought to you by the american
academy of dermatology.
They have a website.
This is their frequently askedquestions portion of their
website that we're actually justdiving into For our episode
here.
So when we talk about what typeof sunscreen, what
characteristics it should have,what?
So when we talk about what typeof sunscreen, what
characteristics it should have,what things do we think about?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (15:30):
So the three main things that you want to
look for when you are lookingfor a sunscreen first is broad
spectrum protection.
Um, everyone talks about the UVrays, but their UVA and UVB um,
the kind of adage is that UVAis for aging and then B is for
burning, and then one that's SPF30 or higher, which really on
(15:52):
the scale of SPFs like 30, isnot really that high.
No it's pretty minimal.
You'll still get a tan.
That's what we use and thenalso looking for one that's
water resistance, for obviousreasons, if you're out at the
pool, the lake, the beach,whatever, you're in the water
and then obviously sweating.
Ed Delesky, MD (16:12):
Absolutely.
And when we talk about actuallyusing that sunscreen, it's
important that you use sunscreenevery day on exposed skin,
regardless of the weatherconditions, because even in
cloudy weather, 80% of theharmful UV rays can penetrate
and get to you.
One thing that was reallyinteresting reading this article
is that most adults need aboutan ounce of sunscreen to cover
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their body and all of the sunexposed areas, and that is about
the amount of a shot glass,which, if you really just take
the bottle, turn it over andyou're squeezing it into a shot
glass, it feels like a lot.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (16:44):
It's a lot.
Yeah, it feels like how my dadapplies sunscreen.
He, the man, paints his body.
Good for him.
Ed Delesky, MD (16:53):
But don't forget that you have to apply it to
the tops of your feet, your neck, ears and the top of your head.
For the friends who are nothaving as much head on the hair
on the top of their headrecently, skin cancer also can
form on the lips, and so peopleoften will find themselves using
a lip balm or a lipstickcontaining sunscreen with an SPF
of 30 or higher, and one keything when it comes to sunscreen
(17:18):
is reapplying, and they offersome good guidance on how often
to reapply.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (17:23):
Yeah, the recommendation is every two
hours Seems reasonable.
I mean, I feel like when we'reon the beach and stuff, like it
seems always like you put yoursunscreen on when you get to the
beach or the pool or wherever,and really the recommendation is
to do it about 15 minutesbefore you're outside.
Ed Delesky, MD (17:40):
Right.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (17:40):
And then it seems like it's being reapplied,
like if you're like oh, myshoulders feel red, or like my
shoulders are hurting, but likeyou're already burning when
you're.
Ed Delesky, MD (17:48):
so if you just do it every two hours, you can
prevent that absolutely, and ifyou're doing activities like
swimming or you're runningaround and you're sweating a lot
, you also should probablyreapply after that too, like any
topical medication, and sothat's something that probably
is underdone.
I mean yeah, one in five.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (18:09):
We're guilty of that.
We'll be better tomorrow at thebeach we certainly are.
Ed Delesky, MD (18:12):
Tomorrow we'll be better, and so, like we were
talking about understandingthese UV rays again, uva rays
are for aging.
They prematurely age skin andthey can cause wrinkles and age
spots, whereas uvb often leadsto the burning type of rays,
which are higher risk for skincancer, which is something that
(18:33):
is something we're alwaysthinking about.
We were talking about sunscreena lot, and it does come in all
different shapes and sizes.
It seems that there are lotions, creams, gels, sticks.
Gels, sticks, sprays, lip balms.
I think it's all personalpreference, and that's what the
American Academy of Dermatologywas saying too.
As long as it gets on your body, the best type of sunscreen is
(18:56):
the sunscreen that you actuallyuse.
What about this interestingtidbit here about the
effectiveness of SPF and howmuch of the UV rays it actually
blocks?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (19:08):
Yeah.
So kind of going back to what Iwas saying about the three
things to look for in your SPF,and the minimum SPF being 30,
that's because with an SPF of 30, that's blocking 97% of the UVB
rays, which are those burningrays.
Ed Delesky, MD (19:26):
Yeah, which is crazy, because higher SPF
numbers actually don't blocksunscreen 100 percent, and if
you're already blocking 97percent of the of the UVB rays,
there's only three percent to go, and so using the same amount
of SPF doesn't actuallyaccomplish that goal.
(19:46):
But what using a higher SPFdoes do is it gets you more
protection with less volume,because we all, I think, tend to
underutilize the amount ofsunscreen that we should use.
But using a higher SPF 40, 50,60, higher you can use less to
be able to get the point acrossto your body.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (20:07):
And no sunscreen protects 100% from
even SPF 100.
Ed Delesky, MD (20:13):
Yeah, it doesn't do it.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (20:14):
Doesn't mean that it's blocking the sun 100%.
Ed Delesky, MD (20:17):
Absolutely.
So what about thinking aboutsun protection in babies and
toddlers?
Tell me what's the word on sunprotection six months and under
in a baby.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (20:33):
So the general kind of recommendation
for the little guys is just toavoid completely keeping them in
the shade.
Getting your little baby a cutelittle sun hat and sunglasses
that they'll take off in threeseconds, but they're still super
cute and you can try.
Ed Delesky, MD (20:44):
And then after that, once you get infants are
older than six months, using aparticular sunscreen that's for
children is the best option, andso, and in terms of infants,
there are special types ofsunscreens those that contain
zinc oxide or titanium dioxide,which may be, less irritating
for sensitive skin.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (21:05):
Yeah, the zinc is like the SPF I use on my
face every day has zinc in it.
Oh, okay, which I like,specifically because I have
eczema and I'll get it likearound my eyes and it doesn't
bother that.
Ed Delesky, MD (21:18):
Does the other sunscreen bother it around your
eyes?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (21:20):
though it does.
Oh, you know, I'm a delicatelittle petunia that's getting
clipped.
Ed Delesky, MD (21:25):
Look at little Petunia that's getting clipped
and you know it sounds like whenyou're using all the sunscreen.
You're going to be goingthrough it quite a bit, and so
there's going to be moresunscreen in the house and
you'll have to buy more.
But the good news is thatsunscreen usually retains its
original strength for aboutthree years, or you should just
look at the expiration date tomake sure that you're not
(21:46):
applying something on your skinthat has been expired for four
or five, six years.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (21:52):
Yeah, once the sunscreen gets, cause I feel
like we've all had a bottle ora couple of like old sunscreen
laying around and like yourbeach bag from 10 summers ago
and it kind of gets that likeyellow, gross like consistency
and color, no good anymore notgood anymore okay.
So, ed, that's so weird to callyou that you can call me eddie
(22:16):
eddie okay.
So, eddie, tell us what if onewould be concerned about their
vitamin d?
And we know that we get a lotof vitamin d from the sun, but
we're protecting ourselves fromthe sun.
Ed Delesky, MD (22:30):
Right.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (22:30):
What's the recommendation for that?
Ed Delesky, MD (22:33):
So if you ask a dermatologist, they'll continue
to say avoid the sun.
And there are a lot of peoplein our society who are vitamin D
deficient, and so there arerecommendations from the AAD to
get it in your diet and otherforms rather than solely relying
on getting it from the sun.
(22:56):
Using this much sun protectioncan actually impact how much
vitamin D you have.
So it's something to thinkabout, and we're talking about
the normal, average, healthyadult.
There are certain circumstancesand chronic conditions where
vitamin D is very important, andobviously, for all of this, you
should consult your own doctor.
(23:16):
Now, in terms of what happenswhen this fails, because no
one's perfect and at the end ofthe day, many people get sunburn
, and this happens to me at thebeginning of every season and
because my skin is very fair.
I'm not Italian like somepeople in the room, and so the
idea is immediately you shouldget out of the sun and get
(23:39):
inside.
But you've helped me in severalother ways, like you've given
me aloe.
We've kept my skin moist.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (23:47):
We now have aloe in our house because of him
.
Ed Delesky, MD (23:50):
Yeah, and drinking a lot of extra water
and it's very soothing.
And as for someone who's had alot of skin peeling and for from
sunburn yeah, that bad um the.
The word from the americanacademy of dermatology is to
avoid popping the blistersbecause they can lead to
infection infection, which isn'tgreat.
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So you also should probablyprevent that skin that was
burned from getting burned again, and so staying out of the sun
after you get burned isimportant as well, and I think
that's the word on sun sunscreenfor now yeah yeah, and sunburn
and protection.
So so SPF 30 is the way to go,or up.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (24:35):
And maybe after everyone listens to our
podcast.
Next time all of thesestatistics come out, it'll be
less than one in 5% of.
Ed Delesky, MD (24:43):
Americans.
Maybe one in six.
Maybe one in six?
That'd be great.
So thank you for coming back toanother week of your Checkup.
Today, hopefully, you were ableto learn something for yourself
, a loved one or a neighbor.
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really share this with anyonewho spends any amount of time in
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So, basically, I'm just askingyou to share this episode with a
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Thank you for coming back and,most importantly, stay healthy,
my friends.
Until next time.
I'm Ed Dolesky.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (25:33):
I'm Nicole Rufo.
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Thank you and goodbye.
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Bye.
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Nicole Aruffo, RN (00:17):
And I'm Nicole Aruffo.
Ed Delesky, MD (00:18):
I'm a nurse and we are so thankful you were able
to join us here again today, soI guess the Catholics could
have come up with somethingbetter than unleavened bread for
the body of Christ.
I get the whole thing Like, Iget why it's all of that, but I
was just thinking that, you know, might grab more.
(00:38):
A rolling stone doesn't gathera lot of moss.
I don't know if that's the thething I'm trying to say.
They should have picked thecheese, because since we
recorded last, a new pope waspicked, and couldn't they have
picked a nice manchego orsomething you know I, or a
(00:59):
cooper sharp?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (01:01):
something maybe we should take it up with
le.
Is that the name he picked?
Ed Delesky, MD (01:05):
Yes, that's the name he picked.
Maybe I'm sending a pigeon, acarrier pigeon, to the Vatican.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (01:11):
Maybe we should go.
Ed Delesky, MD (01:13):
Maybe we should go to the Vatican and pitch this
idea to Pope Leo and see whathappens.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (01:18):
I feel like he'd be down for it.
He seems like a cool guy.
Ed Delesky, MD (01:22):
Who wouldn't?
I mean it would put more delisin business.
It would keep business boomingbecause, like now, we have to go
to get, go to the deli to getour cheese for sunday.
Right, I mean, I think this isa good idea yeah, I think it's
great.
Thank you, you're welcome inother news um, we spent the last
week at the beach and we had aphenomenal time.
(01:43):
We played one of the mostimportant sports that there is
known to man pickleball.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (01:51):
I didn't know if you were going to say
pickleball or golf.
Ed Delesky, MD (01:54):
Oh well, I mean there's.
We'll start with the pickleball.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (01:57):
Pickleball was so much fun.
That was my first time everplaying and I don't know why I
didn't get on this pickleballbandwagon sooner, but I'm happy
I'm here now.
I also don't fully know all ofthe rules and I don't know that
I'll ever put much effort intolearning them, because my
primary goal and focus, muchlike golf, is just making
(02:19):
contact with the ball.
Ed Delesky, MD (02:21):
Yeah, which I?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (02:21):
did a lot of and I thought I was pretty good
and it's fun enough doing that.
We don't need to.
You know, keep score, figureout when you can and can't be in
the kitchen.
Exactly, you know.
Ed Delesky, MD (02:33):
I think that's, uh, that naming on the courts,
but really it's called thekitchen.
There's two lines, you know,for those listening shaking
their fists like I playpickleball all the time.
These losers don't know.
No, we don't.
But I watched a crisp twominute YouTube video and learned
what I could to direct thegroup enough.
Um, it's fun.
I mean, we were up against acrisp wind, a brigantine clearly
(02:57):
the windiest city in America.
And it was a that was a toughwind to go up against One side.
You kiss the ball to the otherside and it airmails across the
court and the other side.
You have to put your entirebutt into the hit and then you
barely get it over.
You served it like four timesinto the net.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (03:18):
I know I was hitting it so hard.
More gusto, nick, more More.
Ed Delesky, MD (03:23):
But no, it was a phenomenal time.
We have pickleball equipment.
We got to look around in ourarea and see where we can play.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (03:31):
We left the pickleball equipment at the
beach house, though, yes, I haveto go back next weekend and get
some or get it.
Oh wait, we also have to talkabout how that troll said that
you cheated on your wife with me.
Yep, like, left your wife for anurse at work.
(03:51):
Yes, we're reading it likeunless you have like a second
family that I don't know aboutno eddie allegedly cheated on
his wife with me and left herand his family for me and let it
be known this was an internettroll that was like when I was,
like you know, promoting thepodcast neither of us has ever
been married before.
Ed Delesky, MD (04:12):
Right, we are getting married, and it will be
the first time for both of usright and this guy is like yeah,
you left this, you left yourfamily for this nurse that
you're doing a podcast with, andI was like this and then he
called me out by name no onewants to listen to your podcast,
ed.
He's like you're a cheater, Ed.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (04:31):
What is going on?
Ed Delesky, MD (04:33):
So I swiftly blocked that guy and the person
who laughed after that on ourthreads account, which we're
very active on.
If you haven't figured that out, yeah, that was crazy.
I have come across a lot ofnice people on threads and the
internet who are like verygrateful for what we're doing
here and they're like, wow, thisis so great, haven't seen
anything like this before.
(04:54):
But then there's a coupleknuckleheads out there like that
.
That it's.
It could have been worse, thoughit could have been so worse and
I'm not used to it, so I lostlike a little tiny bit of sleep
on it.
Do you feel like you're?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (05:06):
on like a Bravo show at the center of a
cheating scandal.
Ed Delesky, MD (05:10):
No, not one bit at all.
No, I don't feel like that atall.
We're not speaking this intoexistence.
Is that how that works?
I mean like, so you know, we'regoing to dazzle our way into
our newest TV show.
We're watching Secret Lives ofMormon Wives.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (05:28):
So good.
Ed Delesky, MD (05:30):
And this woman on there has a thing where on
Sunday she facilitates a chatcalled Confessional Sunday or
whatever.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (05:37):
Yeah, sinner, sunday Sinner.
Ed Delesky, MD (05:40):
Sunday.
If you haven't looked up thisshow, you got it because it's
like for the culture piece.
It's so interesting, but peopleare putting stuff about the
castmates on there that, likehis or isn't true, and it's so
salacious.
It heightens the entireconversation.
I don't know.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (05:57):
She'll get like write ins from like
anonymous, random people.
And there have now been twostorylines where she's like, oh,
I got this people.
And there have now been twostorylines where she's like, oh,
I got this right in fromsomeone who says like she's like
slept with like one of thegirls in the group's husband and
like then it becomes a wholething because like that person
was like probably just lyingright there's stirring up so
(06:19):
much trouble.
Ed Delesky, MD (06:19):
So that's I don't know that, and she's just
like begging for more attention.
When she's doing that, I'm likewhy are you creating so many
problems for people?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (06:30):
She's got to keep her spot for season three.
Ed Delesky, MD (06:32):
That's true.
They're cutthroat in that way.
They're like can I come backinto the group?
And they're like, yeah, let'svote in front of you right now.
No one votes for that to happen, it's the ketamine.
Okay for like that to happen.
It's.
It's the ketamine, okay, yep,I'm glad you brought it up.
So these people on this showcan't like drink coffee, they
can't drink alcohol.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (06:52):
It's against their religion and like very
religious in that way where theylike don't do drugs, they don't
drink alcohol, they don't drinkcoffee, but they like drink a
lot of soda, which is like alsoa lot of caffeine but whatever.
But then so they'll be like, no, we're, like you know, straight
edge, like soda's our vice.
We don't do anything exactly,but then they go to these I
(07:15):
don't even know what you wouldcall it infusion clinic things
and have these like ketaminesessions.
Yep, just like, just like.
Here I go really hanging a,hanging a left there I don't see
how the two align.
Ed Delesky, MD (07:31):
The other thing is um when they go get their
like esthetician treatment andthey're getting their botox yeah
, when they get botox and theyall get like, they all huff the
nitrous and they're like showingthe sun.
They're like, oh yeah, we onceagain.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (07:48):
We don't drink alcohol, we can't drink
coffee, can't drink coffee buthere's the laughing, laughing
gas, though just to take theedge off yeah, it's um, seems
very interesting to me.
Ed Delesky, MD (07:59):
I'm not exactly sure how it works.
I love it, but it's fun, it'sgood to see on tv and they um,
well, I don't know if it's goodto see on tv, it's entertaining
for us if you stumble upon it.
But they create so much conflictwithin themselves and they're
all sober like no alcoholwhatsoever yeah, usually when
you're watching a reality showand there's some sort of like
(08:20):
confrontation or whatever,people have been like drinking
or you know it's at a party orwhatever, but these girls are
stone cold sober yep doing allthese crazy things, getting into
all these crazy fights and then, like the guys were fighting,
but then, like you, can actuallyfollow their train of thought,
(08:41):
because there's logic and reasonbehind their fighting, which is
, yeah, that's true like they'llbe getting like all like
heightened and mad, and thenthey'll be like yes, I
understand where you're comingfrom, but this is what I'm
trying to say but thiscounterpoint to your
counterpoint in the subplot ofthis conversation, I'm like wow,
this is, this is different thanwhat we've often been consuming
(09:02):
.
So that was that.
That's that golfing was fun.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (09:11):
Yeah, it was rusty on the first hole yeah,
rusty on, like the first threeholes, I would say yeah, but
then a couple times like I feel,like when I made contact with
the golf ball, it goes straight,yeah, and relatively far for
someone who doesn't regularlygolf.
Ed Delesky, MD (09:28):
I mean listen, when was the last time you
golfed?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (09:34):
Two summers ago.
Ed Delesky, MD (09:35):
Exactly so.
If we did this a little bitmore, found ourselves a driving
range that wasn't beingdeconstructed.
Get out there, do it a littlebit more.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (09:45):
I think we'd be pretty good.
Also, maybe if I wasn't using agolf club that was meant for
someone who's a foot taller thanme.
Ed Delesky, MD (09:52):
Which is fun, because I'm using a golf club
that's meant for someone who'slike eight inches shorter than
me.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (09:58):
Yeah, why do we do that?
Ed Delesky, MD (10:00):
Well, because we don't?
It's not a consistent enoughhobby that we don't.
We haven't purchased our owngolf clubs, we're still using
the ones that my dad had.
Yeah, so that's why?
Because we only go once everytwo years at this point.
So I don't think it quite.
You know, como se dice, Maybewhen we move back to the suburbs
(10:26):
yeah, because I mean that's anactivity that you're gonna do
all the time in the suburbs.
Yeah, that, these runs thatwe've been going on, we've been
running a lot more recentlytogether some nice peloton runs.
A little quirk on the app, younever mind, but the these
peloton runs have been so greatand once again, we just love the
(10:48):
love the app, love the program,we love doing it together and
that was really fun.
You get to do it on the beachtoo.
Low tide can't do that at hightide, slippery sand.
Oh yeah, I know we were walkingout there and I was like, oh
wow, it would be impossible torun in these conditions.
But like in the morning, inthese conditions it was like
(11:10):
sloping slanted sand.
Did you like that alliteration?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (11:15):
Yeah, that was great.
Ed Delesky, MD (11:16):
Thank you.
I'm a poet, oh my God.
Well, it's been about 11minutes and I think our audience
is eager to learn 11 minutes,and I think our audience is
eager to learn what we are goingto talk about today.
So what are we going to talkabout today, nick?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (11:29):
Today we're talking about skin cancer and
sun protection.
Awesome, which will be a timelyepisode, since we're at
Memorial Day in the beginning ofsummer.
Ed Delesky, MD (11:39):
Excellent that sounds great.
All right.
So sun protection is important.
You know, this week we'respending some time down at the
beach and it made us think to dothis episode.
So when you think of sunprotection, what do you think
that is the main thing you'retrying to prevent.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (12:02):
Skin cancer.
Ed Delesky, MD (12:03):
Yeah, Skin cancer and for our vein people
out there aging as well.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (12:09):
Can't have aging and all of this kind of
seems like okay, like none ofwhat we're about to say is a hot
take and stay out of the sun.
If you're in the sun, wear asunscreen, which we'll talk more
about, but one in fiveAmericans will develop skin
cancer at some point in theirlife, so it sounds like the
people need a reminder.
Ed Delesky, MD (12:31):
Yeah, it's the most common type of cancer and
so it definitely deserves a lotof time and attention, which
we're going to give it today,awesome.
So there are a couple essentialprotective measures that you
can take, essential protectivemeasures that you can take, one
(12:53):
of them being seeking shade whenwe're trying to reduce our
chances of sun exposure and skincancer.
So between 10 am and 2 pm, thesun's rays are the strongest.
Best time to tan, the best timeto tan and the worst time to get
skin cancer, and so avoidingthe sun during those times is
probably the best way to tan andthe worst time to get skin
cancer, and so avoiding the sunduring those times is probably
the best way to go.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (13:12):
So what if you're not avoiding the sun or
you're like us and we're on thebeach between those times?
Ed Delesky, MD (13:17):
Yeah, I mean realistically.
I know like we're, we got towalk the walk here.
I guess, realistically, youshould be wearing sun protective
clothing and I remember gettinglots of lectures in med school
about this that, like you'll seedermatologists out there, they
are wearing lightweight clothinglong sleeve shirts, pants, wide
brim hats and sunglasses, allto offer them extra protection
(13:40):
from the sun.
But there's one big one thatyou know is not clothing at all.
That is a big conversation.
What are we thinking about here?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (13:51):
Sounds like we're talking about sunscreen.
Ed Delesky, MD (13:54):
We are, and so can you tell us a little bit
about.
So who needs sunscreen?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (14:00):
Everybody needs sunscreen, regardless of
your skin tone, age, gender,whether you think you don't need
sunscreen because you reallydon't burn, Like I thought.
For my entire adolescent andmost of my adult life thus far,
except in the recent years, I'vebeen really good about wearing
sunscreen all the time.
(14:21):
But you know that took me asolid 30 years to get to that
point.
Ed Delesky, MD (14:25):
So Right, and you know, like you mentioned
earlier, one in five Americansdevelop skin cancer in their
lifetime, which is reallydisturbing.
But not only does not usingsunscreen lead to that outcome,
but using sunscreen also helpspremature skin aging, which is a
bit of the zeitgeist, Don't?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (14:44):
want that and you know any of the girlies who
want to shoot up their face,freeze your muscles under there
to prevent wrinkles.
That's all good and fine, butyou can't do that and then not
wear sunscreen because you can'tfix it from the inside and then
have bad skin on the outside.
Botox can fix your skin.
Ed Delesky, MD (15:07):
Botox can fix your skin.
So, yeah, so when you'rethinking about choosing the
right sunscreen, what sorts ofrecommendations and all of this
conversation has been and I'llbrought to you by the american
academy of dermatology.
They have a website.
This is their frequently askedquestions portion of their
website that we're actually justdiving into For our episode
here.
So when we talk about what typeof sunscreen, what
characteristics it should have,what?
So when we talk about what typeof sunscreen, what
characteristics it should have,what things do we think about?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (15:30):
So the three main things that you want to
look for when you are lookingfor a sunscreen first is broad
spectrum protection.
Um, everyone talks about the UVrays, but their UVA and UVB um,
the kind of adage is that UVAis for aging and then B is for
burning, and then one that's SPF30 or higher, which really on
(15:52):
the scale of SPFs like 30, isnot really that high.
No it's pretty minimal.
You'll still get a tan.
That's what we use and thenalso looking for one that's
water resistance, for obviousreasons, if you're out at the
pool, the lake, the beach,whatever, you're in the water
and then obviously sweating.
Ed Delesky, MD (16:12):
Absolutely.
And when we talk about actuallyusing that sunscreen, it's
important that you use sunscreenevery day on exposed skin,
regardless of the weatherconditions, because even in
cloudy weather, 80% of theharmful UV rays can penetrate
and get to you.
One thing that was reallyinteresting reading this article
is that most adults need aboutan ounce of sunscreen to cover
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their body and all of the sunexposed areas, and that is about
the amount of a shot glass,which, if you really just take
the bottle, turn it over andyou're squeezing it into a shot
glass, it feels like a lot.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (16:44):
It's a lot.
Yeah, it feels like how my dadapplies sunscreen.
He, the man, paints his body.
Good for him.
Ed Delesky, MD (16:53):
But don't forget that you have to apply it to
the tops of your feet, your neck, ears and the top of your head.
For the friends who are nothaving as much head on the hair
on the top of their headrecently, skin cancer also can
form on the lips, and so peopleoften will find themselves using
a lip balm or a lipstickcontaining sunscreen with an SPF
of 30 or higher, and one keything when it comes to sunscreen
(17:18):
is reapplying, and they offersome good guidance on how often
to reapply.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (17:23):
Yeah, the recommendation is every two
hours Seems reasonable.
I mean, I feel like when we'reon the beach and stuff, like it
seems always like you put yoursunscreen on when you get to the
beach or the pool or wherever,and really the recommendation is
to do it about 15 minutesbefore you're outside.
Ed Delesky, MD (17:40):
Right.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (17:40):
And then it seems like it's being reapplied,
like if you're like oh, myshoulders feel red, or like my
shoulders are hurting, but likeyou're already burning when
you're.
Ed Delesky, MD (17:48):
so if you just do it every two hours, you can
prevent that absolutely, and ifyou're doing activities like
swimming or you're runningaround and you're sweating a lot
, you also should probablyreapply after that too, like any
topical medication, and sothat's something that probably
is underdone.
I mean yeah, one in five.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (18:09):
We're guilty of that.
We'll be better tomorrow at thebeach we certainly are.
Ed Delesky, MD (18:12):
Tomorrow we'll be better, and so, like we were
talking about understandingthese UV rays again, uva rays
are for aging.
They prematurely age skin andthey can cause wrinkles and age
spots, whereas uvb often leadsto the burning type of rays,
which are higher risk for skincancer, which is something that
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is something we're alwaysthinking about.
We were talking about sunscreena lot, and it does come in all
different shapes and sizes.
It seems that there are lotions, creams, gels, sticks.
Gels, sticks, sprays, lip balms.
I think it's all personalpreference, and that's what the
American Academy of Dermatologywas saying too.
As long as it gets on your body, the best type of sunscreen is
(18:56):
the sunscreen that you actuallyuse.
What about this interestingtidbit here about the
effectiveness of SPF and howmuch of the UV rays it actually
blocks?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (19:08):
Yeah.
So kind of going back to what Iwas saying about the three
things to look for in your SPF,and the minimum SPF being 30,
that's because with an SPF of 30, that's blocking 97% of the UVB
rays, which are those burningrays.
Ed Delesky, MD (19:26):
Yeah, which is crazy, because higher SPF
numbers actually don't blocksunscreen 100 percent, and if
you're already blocking 97percent of the of the UVB rays,
there's only three percent to go, and so using the same amount
of SPF doesn't actuallyaccomplish that goal.
(19:46):
But what using a higher SPFdoes do is it gets you more
protection with less volume,because we all, I think, tend to
underutilize the amount ofsunscreen that we should use.
But using a higher SPF 40, 50,60, higher you can use less to
be able to get the point acrossto your body.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (20:07):
And no sunscreen protects 100% from
even SPF 100.
Ed Delesky, MD (20:13):
Yeah, it doesn't do it.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (20:14):
Doesn't mean that it's blocking the sun 100%.
Ed Delesky, MD (20:17):
Absolutely.
So what about thinking aboutsun protection in babies and
toddlers?
Tell me what's the word on sunprotection six months and under
in a baby.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (20:33):
So the general kind of recommendation
for the little guys is just toavoid completely keeping them in
the shade.
Getting your little baby a cutelittle sun hat and sunglasses
that they'll take off in threeseconds, but they're still super
cute and you can try.
Ed Delesky, MD (20:44):
And then after that, once you get infants are
older than six months, using aparticular sunscreen that's for
children is the best option, andso, and in terms of infants,
there are special types ofsunscreens those that contain
zinc oxide or titanium dioxide,which may be, less irritating
for sensitive skin.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (21:05):
Yeah, the zinc is like the SPF I use on my
face every day has zinc in it.
Oh, okay, which I like,specifically because I have
eczema and I'll get it likearound my eyes and it doesn't
bother that.
Ed Delesky, MD (21:18):
Does the other sunscreen bother it around your
eyes?
Nicole Aruffo, RN (21:20):
though it does.
Oh, you know, I'm a delicatelittle petunia that's getting
clipped.
Ed Delesky, MD (21:25):
Look at little Petunia that's getting clipped
and you know it sounds like whenyou're using all the sunscreen.
You're going to be goingthrough it quite a bit, and so
there's going to be moresunscreen in the house and
you'll have to buy more.
But the good news is thatsunscreen usually retains its
original strength for aboutthree years, or you should just
look at the expiration date tomake sure that you're not
(21:46):
applying something on your skinthat has been expired for four
or five, six years.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (21:52):
Yeah, once the sunscreen gets, cause I feel
like we've all had a bottle ora couple of like old sunscreen
laying around and like yourbeach bag from 10 summers ago
and it kind of gets that likeyellow, gross like consistency
and color, no good anymore notgood anymore okay.
So, ed, that's so weird to callyou that you can call me eddie
(22:16):
eddie okay.
So, eddie, tell us what if onewould be concerned about their
vitamin d?
And we know that we get a lotof vitamin d from the sun, but
we're protecting ourselves fromthe sun.
Ed Delesky, MD (22:30):
Right.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (22:30):
What's the recommendation for that?
Ed Delesky, MD (22:33):
So if you ask a dermatologist, they'll continue
to say avoid the sun.
And there are a lot of peoplein our society who are vitamin D
deficient, and so there arerecommendations from the AAD to
get it in your diet and otherforms rather than solely relying
on getting it from the sun.
(22:56):
Using this much sun protectioncan actually impact how much
vitamin D you have.
So it's something to thinkabout, and we're talking about
the normal, average, healthyadult.
There are certain circumstancesand chronic conditions where
vitamin D is very important, andobviously, for all of this, you
should consult your own doctor.
(23:16):
Now, in terms of what happenswhen this fails, because no
one's perfect and at the end ofthe day, many people get sunburn
, and this happens to me at thebeginning of every season and
because my skin is very fair.
I'm not Italian like somepeople in the room, and so the
idea is immediately you shouldget out of the sun and get
(23:39):
inside.
But you've helped me in severalother ways, like you've given
me aloe.
We've kept my skin moist.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (23:47):
We now have aloe in our house because of him
.
Ed Delesky, MD (23:50):
Yeah, and drinking a lot of extra water
and it's very soothing.
And as for someone who's had alot of skin peeling and for from
sunburn yeah, that bad um the.
The word from the americanacademy of dermatology is to
avoid popping the blistersbecause they can lead to
infection infection, which isn'tgreat.
(24:11):
So you also should probablyprevent that skin that was
burned from getting burned again, and so staying out of the sun
after you get burned isimportant as well, and I think
that's the word on sun sunscreenfor now yeah yeah, and sunburn
and protection.
So so SPF 30 is the way to go,or up.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (24:35):
And maybe after everyone listens to our
podcast.
Next time all of thesestatistics come out, it'll be
less than one in 5% of.
Ed Delesky, MD (24:43):
Americans.
Maybe one in six.
Maybe one in six?
That'd be great.
So thank you for coming back toanother week of your Checkup.
Today, hopefully, you were ableto learn something for yourself
, a loved one or a neighbor.
Please check us out on ourInstagram, check out our website
to find all of our old episodes, or, wherever you listen to
(25:04):
podcasts, you can sign up forour email list.
It's available in thedescription wherever you listen
to podcasts, and my one call toaction for you all this week is
really share this with anyonewho spends any amount of time in
the sun.
So, basically, I'm just askingyou to share this episode with a
friend or a neighbor, as wecontinue to try to get the
(25:24):
message out for the work thatwe're doing here.
Thank you for coming back and,most importantly, stay healthy,
my friends.
Until next time.
I'm Ed Dolesky.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (25:33):
I'm Nicole Rufo.
Ed Delesky, MD (25:34):
Thank you and goodbye.
Nicole Aruffo, RN (25:35):
Bye.
Ed Delesky, MD (25:44):
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It doesn't cover all detailsabout conditions, treatments or
medications for a specificperson.
Thank you use.
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information tailored to you.
In short, I'm not your doctor,I am not your nurse, and make
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