October 1, 2024 • 28 mins
What if you could breeze through airports without the usual chaos and stress? On the latest episode of the Z Michelson Travel Podcast, we reveal the secret to a smoother travel experience by leveraging the convenience of smaller airports. Discover how airports like Long Beach can save you precious time and significantly reduce travel-related stress, especially when heading to bustling destinations like Los Angeles or San Diego. We share our personal stories and insights, spotlighting the perks of flying with airlines such as JetBlue, Southwest, Hawaiian, Delta, and American from these more manageable hubs.
But that's not all—we dish out some top-notch airport tips and essential travel warnings to ensure your journey goes off without a hitch. From a fun trivia tidbit about the penguins of Boulders Beach in Simonstown, South Africa, to the hidden gems of Dallas Love Field and Lehigh Valley International Airport, we've got you covered. Learn why these smaller alternatives to major airports like Dallas-Fort Worth and Philadelphia can make your travels more enjoyable. Plus, get the lowdown on navigating through Seattle’s SeaTac and the less hectic Plainfield Airport with ease.
As we round out the episode, we dive into the world of travel dreams and tips, encouraging you to dream big and explore new corners of the globe. Share your favorite travel tips and destinations, and connect with us on social media to keep the conversation going. Tune in to be inspired, gain valuable travel insights, and visit our website, ZMichelsonTravel.com, for even more travel wisdom. Ready to make your travel dreams a reality? This episode is your perfect starting point.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Z Michelson Travel Podcast.
This podcast is devoted to thetravel industry.
Z says let your imagination runwild and start dreaming about
where you want to go.
And dream big, reach for thestars, and if you only get to
the moon, at least you enjoyedthe trip.
Your guide to travel is ZMichelson, a travel advisor, and
sitting at the controls is JayLawrence, your concierge of
(00:24):
podcast travel.
Now here's Z.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
That's me, that's me, I'm Z.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's about time you got here.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, I know there's been lots of traveling.
We've been doing lots oftraveling, both you and I and
our spouses.
Oh boy, yep, we've been busy.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Busy, busy bees, but busy bees.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But you know what?
What I just want to?
Let everybody know that this isbeing brought to you by collage
travel media network, bingo,and it's home to collage travel
radiocom and zmax radiolive.
Yes, and of course, my podcastpodcasting.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And then you do travel as well.
I am a travel advisor you're atravel advisor and we've been
traveling this year.
And we're going to be doingmore traveling.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
My calendar is getting full.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well, we can actually do these podcasts while we
travel too.
Absolutely yeah, that'll be fun.
That'll be fun, and we havelots of groups going too, so
people can travel with us?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, that's what I want to know about.
We've got to start talkingabout the groups for next year.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
We are, we're going to start talking about the
groups for next year.
We are we're going to betalking about groups for next
year.
We have one for cruises.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
On Celebrity Cruise coming in July yes, 2025.
And we also have one going toIreland for 2025 in late
September.
All right, so we are excited.
We're getting stuff togetheryeah yeah, we're probably going
to do an Italy one too.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I was going to say this kind of reminds me of 2020.
Uh-huh, 2020.
When we started this dang thing, we just kept traveling.
Yes, All right let's get to thepodcast.
What do you say?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Well, you know, I'm always reviewing topics and tips
and more traveling.
I get all of this informationfrom all sources.
I get newspapers and magazinesand what I try to do is I try to
pass the information on toeverybody and I know many people
are becoming more and morefrustrated at the major airports
.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Right Flight delays, crazy crazy crowds and a whole
lot more what about majorairports.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, I know, major airports have the top airlines.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
And that's why so many people choose those
airports, right?
But today I'm going to chatabout smaller airports that may
help you feel a little bit morerelaxed, and some of them do
have some of the major airlines.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I think that would be a good idea.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You think Right, yes, yes, so you know, I've been to
smaller airports, I've been to alot of small airports and I've
been to some of the majorairports, right.
So I know how both of them areand as everybody knows my
feelings on the Denver airport.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I was just that's what flashed through my mind was
walking through the southwestarea from Denver.
There were so many people.
How many planes can they have?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Tons of people, tons of planes.
They're going under a massiveconstruction right now and
that's also getting everybodyvery confused.
Also, for people who don't know, the Denver airport lies on the
outskirts of the city 25 milesout of the city of Denver, right
.
So just be aware of that.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
It happens to be the largest land area of an airport.
Second to the largest in theworld.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
And your son lives out there.
My daughter lives out there, sowhen we fly, we're flying into
Denver.
Yes, so I know traveling out ofsome of the smaller airports
when I fly and, yes, sometimesthe smaller airports have the
budget airlines Right, but notall budget airlines are bad.
That's what I've been hearing.
Yeah, so you go to the smallerairport.
You can usually can easily getthrough check in all very
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quickly.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Very quickly.
Can I grab a cup of coffee?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
You can grab a cup of coffee and with the budget
airlines you know budgetairlines you can get through
those lines faster and, ofcourse, they have coffee and
food on the other side.
Right, you can even saveyourself a couple of dollars.
Wow, yeah, yeah.
So it's based on that.
So let's talk about whichsmaller airports what's?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
a smaller airport.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Okay, so you want to go to LA?
You want to go to Los Angeles,or perhaps San Diego, yeah, okay
, both airports are very big.
I've been to LAX many, manytimes, so try flying in or out
of Long Beach.
Long Beach does have JetBlue,southwest Hawaiian Delta and
(04:40):
American Well, that's prettygood.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, Delta and American Well that's pretty good
.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, the Long Beach Airport is located off of the
405, which is a major highway inCalifornia, and only about four
miles from the ocean, so if thebeach is where you want to go,
it's right there.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, so okay, ring, ring, ring.
Yes, travel agent yes.
I would like to go to LosAngeles.
Okay, how do I miss the to goto Los Angeles?
Okay, how do I miss the LAXairport?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
How do you miss it?
How do I miss it?
Well, we first find out whatairlines they like.
Okay, some people love to flySouthwest.
Yes, so I can say okay, youlove Southwest, let's get you
into Long Beach and it is a niceairport.
I've been in and out of LongBeach a couple of times.
It's not bad at all.
So you're probably going tohave to rent a car, you know,
(05:28):
particularly if you want to goto San Diego.
Oh, yeah.
So if you go to this Long Beachto go into San Diego, hop on the
5 and head south.
It's about two hours, but it'sa lot better than spending two
hours standing in a line Rightand getting all sorts of
frustrated I'm thinking it wasat the uh john wayne airport, is
(05:49):
that uh?
John wayne, is is different.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, it's north isn't it a little north and
that's a smaller airport?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
yeah, it's kind of south near ontario it is yeah,
so you know and they've changednames around quite a bit but
long beach airport, that's whereyou want to go if you're
heading towards los angeles orsan die, because it's still a
pretty nice airport.
It has some of the majorairlines and the drive to San
Diego can be very pretty, youknow, because you're driving
(06:16):
along the coast, so you've got alot of coastal views.
Yeah, so it'd be pretty cool.
Yeah, I've driven up and downthe five, the one I've been all
over California north and south.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Now what if I don't want to go to California and I
want to go to, like, boston orsomeplace?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Okay.
So if you're going to the far,far northeast, like Boston or
Portland, maine, you may want toconsider Bangor International,
and you know, I know Jerry isvery fond of Maine and you know,
I know Jerry is very fond ofMaine.
It's only about an hour fromBar Harbor but it's also an easy
drive to the state's mostpopular summertime areas.
(06:52):
So you may have to drive a bitto get to Boston, but if you
want to see some small areasalong the way.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
you might want to think of Bangor, maine, bangor,
international.
Well, of course you drive.
Boston is such a large area youcould be driving to the
outskirts anyhow, so it'd beeasier to get to.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Exactly it cuts.
You might want to drive, itmight make you drive a little
bit more, but at least you'velanded, you're in a location and
you can get to where you'regoing and you're not standing on
a line getting frustratedtrying to get in and out of an
airport and it makes it a lotsimpler.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yes, mm-hmm, yes.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So before we take off for another airport, like that,
I am only punning you.
Okay, that's my trivia music.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So here's a trivia question what are you punning me
for?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Right, take off from another airport oh yeah.
Take off from another airport.
Yeah, okay.
So in which South African citycan you find Boulder's Beach,
which is inhabited by a largenumber of wild penguins?
Which is inhabited by a largenumber of wild penguins.
(08:13):
I believe I need a multiplechoice on this.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay, let me see if I can find your multiple choice
on this South African cities.
See, I don't.
You're the one who wanted to goto South Africa.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, you know, I like animals.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
The penguins, do we want to do another tribute
question?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well, there's a ton of penguins on this beach.
Okay, how could I put this?
Let's see, I don't know if Ican give you any.
You're a South African fromSouth Africa, okay, well, I
don't think you're going to getit.
I can't give you any kind ofhint, because I'm trying to
(08:58):
figure out a hint like I gaveyou the other day.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I'm sorry but you've got me at a loss because I do
not know any cities in SouthAfrica.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Okay, so Boulders Beach here's the answer is
located on the Cape Peninsula inSimonstown in the Western Cape
Province of South Africa, andit's commonly known as Boulders
Bay, and it has tons and tons ofpenguins.
It's absolutely adorable.
You see all the little penguinsthere.
The water is absolutelygorgeous and it's called
(09:30):
Boulders Beach, simontown, capeTown, south Africa, so that's
where it's at.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, Now on the list of did Jay get these questions
right or wrong?
I want this one to be out inthe left field.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Well, cape Town, cape Town, South Africa.
It's kind of popular.
But yeah, there you go, CapeTown, south Africa, boulders
Beach Go see the penguins.
It is very pretty.
So there you go, jay.
We'll have to put that on ourbucket list.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Okay, it's called Stump the Old man.
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Stump Jay, stump Jay.
Maybe we can call it trivia.
We'll call it Stump Jay, newname for the episode.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Stump Jay.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Stump Jay, all right.
So let's get back to theairport, shall we?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
What about Texas?
I ever go to Texas.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You know I have not been, I have not flown into
Texas.
I've driven into Texas many,many times, but I haven't flown
in.
Yeah, so if you're thinking ofDallas instead of Dallas-Fort
Worth, think of Dallas LoveField Airport.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Absolutely the old Love Field.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Right, it's a little bit older.
It's less than 20 miles fromDallas.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, it's more compact and it may be a cheaper
alternative if you're flyinginto Dallas.
It's also a major hub forSouthwest Airlines.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Absolutely so, if you like Southwest Airlines.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
there you go and it's actually closer to downtown
Dallas, and apparently theairport just had some recent
updates too.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I would hope.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, I mean it's been around for a while, but
they've been updating and, likeI said, it's only 20 miles from
the city.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Basically, when you're looking at small airports
, you're probably looking atSouthwest.
It's got most of the service.
Would that be wrong?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Probably not completely accurate.
Not completely accurate, youjust have to question it.
All right Certain things.
They don't have it.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Okay, so we've been to LA.
We've been Boston or not Dallas?
Where are we going next?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Now, if you're flying to Philadelphia or Newark now
I've flown into Newark.
It is a crazy airport you maywant to consider Lehigh Valley
International.
Oh, the airlines that servicehere are American Allegiant,
delta and United Okay, so you'vegot a couple of biggies there,
(12:07):
you know and also Allegiant.
This airport is located abouthalfway between both
Philadelphia and Newark airports, so it's not too far.
It's about an hour's driveeither way, and of course, it
also knocks on the door ofManhattan.
So New York City, new York City, new York, new York, right.
So this airport is small.
(12:28):
It's clean and convenient.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And that's the important thing.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, because when you get into places like New
York, I hear a lot of dingingand that's not me.
It's not me, I don't know whereit's coming from we're getting
dinged.
Somebody's dinging us?
Do I have my?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
phone on or something .
No, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
My phone's off to the side, so it's not even yelling
at me.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I wonder okay.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Maybe somebody wants to get on one of these planes
they want right away.
Okay.
So just knowing Philadelphia orNewark, think Lehigh Valley
International.
It's a smaller airport but itservices some of the bigger
planes American, delta, unitedand, of course, allegiant Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Allegiant is okay.
I think we're going to betalking about that a little
later.
Yep, yep, yep so let's talkabout where else are we going?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Well, everybody's heard of SeaTac.
You know, you've heard ofSeaTac.
Jay, Seattle, Tacoma.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
No, I haven't you haven't.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That's the major airport in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Okay, so we've been talking a lot about the East
Coast, the South and the West,like.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Texas.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
But this is Washington.
State.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
That's probably one of those things that's on my
bucket list, because I've neverbeen to Seattle.
You've never been to Seattle,never been to Seattle?
Oh my, you have to go toSeattle.
It's a great city, yes, it's agreat little city.
So SeaTac is the major onethere and I've flown in and out
of this airport.
Now, I didn't find it hard tonavigate.
It was large but not too crazy.
It was large but not too crazy.
So I was surprised.
But if you want less crowds,think Plainfield Airport, and
this is in Snohomish County.
(14:06):
Can you say that again?
Snohomish?
Can you spell that for me?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
S-N-O-H-O-M-I-S-H County.
It must be a county in thestate of Washington, right.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
So if you're looking up at the state of Washington on
your map, you're going to goand look to the east, so it's
east of SeaTac.
Not too many airlines fly inand out of here, though, but
there are two majors that go inand out Alaska and United, so
that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Alaska Airlines travels quite a bit and United
Airlines is a major, so if Iwant to go to Alaska from here,
I'd probably have to fly Unitedto this airport, snohomish.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
And then Plainfield Airport, and plain is
P-L-A-I-N-E Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
So just think Alaska and United.
However, with this airport,it's only about 30 miles north
of downtown Seattle and it's aneasy car ride to Vancouver.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And I've been to Vancouver as well.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Now I've driven from Seattle Airport the SeaTac
Airport to a hotel.
It took me over 30 minutes toget to the hotel and that was in
downtown Seattle, so just keepthat in mind when you're looking
at this.
So again, you can skip sometraffic on Interstate 5.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Now, what you've been saying here is that most of
these airports are like 25 milesfrom these major areas.
Well except for the one in LosAngeles, and we talked about the
fact that Denver's airport is25 miles Outside the city
already.
But when you think of thatsucker, you go out into the
prairie, you're going out on theprairie land.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Right.
Basically, you see the bighorse with the red eyes coming
into.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Denver.
Did you see that one?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, that's kind of scary.
All right, so before I get tothe last of my list of smaller
airports, we want to talk abouta travel tip.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, you know, and you have something to say, I've
got something to say.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What do you got?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
to say.
Speaking of smaller airports,right, my wife and I were flying
out of Bozeman, right, montana,which is a smaller airport,
right, but it's one of thoseairports that's really grown.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Now didn't you fly into Denver?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Flew to.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Denver, and then you flew back home from Bozeman Jack
.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So the trip was I rented a car to drive from
Denver to Bozeman, Right, Okay,so the rental car company.
May I say its name?
You can.
The rental car company Ava'stried to gouge me for 11 days
that I never had the car.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
And you told me that you had to do a drop-off early
because you guys were flying outearly, so there was no person
to really take your paperwork.
Right, Right, right.
So there was no person toreally take your paperwork right
, right, right.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
We left the car at the airport at 4 am in the
morning for a 6 am flight.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
And then they said that you never returned the car
until a certain time becausethey didn't file the paperwork,
and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You know that's it.
But finally it's taken me 22emails back and forth.
I have contacted my credit cardcompany to dispute the charge
Absolutely, and which theyfinally helped me with Right,
and so I finally did get acredit Right.
So I'm feeling much better.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Okay, there's a couple of ways around this.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
One is when you got to the airport, you had to drop
it off at a certain location.
I'm feeling much better.
Okay, there's a couple of waysaround this.
One is when you got to theairport, you had to drop it off
at a certain location.
I'm sure, yes, Right, Did ithave a number bin that you just
drove into where it says you?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
know A2 or whatever it did, and I think it was 54.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Okay, but.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I don't, I can't.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Take a picture with a timestamp on your car.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I can't Take a picture with a timestamp on your
car.
That's what I didn't do.
Yeah, that's what I didn't doso.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
This way, you know, you could have immediately sent
it to the Avis people and then Iwould have, upon arriving in my
hometown, contact Avis to letthem know hey, I parked the car
in such and such and give them aheads up, because sometimes,
you know, people are human andthey make mistakes and they're
(18:23):
not filing these thingsappropriately.
So, yeah, you may run into itnow.
So if you had somebody like atravel agent, yes, helping you,
they would have been able totalk to you and talk to them
with a with a car rental with acar rental.
Travel agents do car rentals aswell.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Now.
So the only thing I had toverify the fact that I didn't
have the car on that date was Itook a selfie of myself and my
wife at the Orlando airport atthree o'clock in the afternoon,
Timestamp.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Luckily you had that one.
So always make sure you take apicture of where you're dropping
off the car, with a time stampon it.
This way, in case there's anyquestion, they can see it.
Because, again, people arehuman.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
They're not filing their paperwork on time, or the
computers have a glitch and thatdoesn't get filed properly, and
blah blah, blah, blah, blah soyou know, up until today, when I
was going to do this podcast, Iwas ready to go crazy, but at
least it's been rectified andI'm feeling a little better.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I knew it would get rectified.
It's just a matter of time andit's a headache.
Yes, so you don't want theheadache?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
As I said, 22 different emails are asking for
let me see the original Rightfor let me see the original
Right that I had.
I had a copy of the originalagreement.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, that's good.
You always make sure you saveyour paper and you take the
pictures.
Oh, the other thing, uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
And I contacted they wanted me to make.
They said did you really flyout of that airport at that time
, right?
How do you verify that?
Well, you're supposed to keep.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Your ticket.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And of.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You didn't have it on your phone.
I get a paper, jay, what am Igoing to do with you?
We got to get you into the 20thcentury at least.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And I talked to a representative from Southwest
and she said did you keep yourboarding pass?
I said no.
She said well, I don't either.
I throw mine away too.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, just make sure you have it on your phone too.
Always have backup, backup,backup.
Because, yes, have it on yourphone too.
Always have backup, backup,backup.
Because, yes, we live in acomputerized world and computers
crash and burn and all sorts offun stuff I'm not used to.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I cannot get into this phone using the phone as my
ticket.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Oh, it's so easy.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But but okay, so I probably should have taken a
picture of that boarding pass.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
That's what I could have done.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I take pictures of everything, so it's always good
to have.
And you talk to a lawyer andthey'll say, when you fall down,
take a picture right away.
So always keep that in mind.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
So that is my travel tip.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
That's your travel tip.
Okay, do you want to hear mytravel tip?
I'm not sure we have time forit, no time for it, but that's
okay.
There are a lot of things to doin travels and travel tips.
So, jay, I only have a couplemore small airports today.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
All right.
Well, let's talk about somesmall airports.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Okay, Thinking of going to New York City or the
surrounding areas.
Of course, everyone's heard ofJFK.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Which is a big airport.
It's a monster.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
And LaGuardia, which is a small old airport.
It's not that small, it's prettybig.
I don't like flying in or outof LaGuardia, and there's a
reason for it.
Um, they have a short runwayright and that runway is very
scary, Like when you're about totake off.
It's like am I going in thedrink or coming down?
Are we going in the drink?
Are we going to make him?
(21:44):
But they always seem to land.
But I personally don't likeLaGuardia.
I don't mind JFK, it is alittle bit more chaotic.
But instead of thinkingLaGuardia or JFK, think of
MacArthur Airport.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Where is that located ?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
That's located in Islip, new York, which is on
Long Island, and it housesSouthwest American and Frontier
service this airport.
It houses Southwest Americanand Frontier service this
airport.
Oh, okay, so if you're thinkingof considering a trip to the
Hamptons or Fire Island, if youwant to go into New York City
New York City, the Big Apple,manhattan, it's Long Island you
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can jump on the railroad outthere.
Or, you know, I don't recommendtaking a car into Manhattan.
No, you really don't need one.
And if you take one in there,be prepared to get cranky and
aggravated.
But you can jump on therailroad, long Island Railroad.
It's only about a 10-minute cabdrive from the airport.
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I've been on the Long IslandRailroad.
It is a commuter train.
Just keep that in mind whenyou're on the li rr.
Commuter trains are fantastic.
Well, the long island railroadhas some issues.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It does have some issues, so just bring your
patients with you, but it's aneasier fix okay, yeah, um, I'm
saying, if I want to fly intonew york city and I'm calling
southwest right, are they goingto immediately run me into this
airport?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
No, you'll have to ask for it.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Because you'll say well, I want to go to New York,
and that's the first thingthey're going to say JFK, okay,
that's going to be the firstthings off their lips.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
But you say, well, I don't want the traffic.
What about MacArthur?
Bring it to their attention,okay, Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
All right.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Also say that with your travel advisor, because a
travel advisor is going to dothe same thing.
They're going to put you in thebigger airports, unless you
tell them.
I don't want the headache, Iwant to be at the smaller
airport.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And I'm sure my travel advisor is going to ask
the right questions to make surethe person knows where they
want to go.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Right, where are you going, what do you want to do
and how much aggravation do youwant?
So now, the last on my listright now is where I sometimes
fly in and out of, and that'sthe Sanford Orlando
International Airport.
Yes, yes, it's very simple.
It's easy to navigate.
You get through the checkpointsvery quickly, but need to be
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aware of the airlines thatservice the airport.
I use allegiant uh-huh, okay,but I also need to watch their
flight dates, because sometimesyou can go but you can't always
come back well, that's what Iwas.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
That is the exciting thing about that airline to me
because they give you economyrates.
Get you there, but you got toknow you got to stay a week.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Well, the whole thing is like just you know, not too
long ago I was going to go outto South Dakota.
Yeah, but we could get there inthat month, but we would have
to wait like almost two and ahalf months to get back, because
that's when the service stopped.
And then it picked back up twoand a half months later.
So we couldn't go at that timevia the airline Wow.
So we couldn't go at that timevia the airline Wow.
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So always be aware of that.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
So what other airlines fly out of Stanford?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Well, they also have Spirit, Sun Country and United.
But remember it's aninternational airport, so you
got to remember some of theseplanes will not fly in and out.
You always have to double check.
So just check if they fly thereand if they fly out when you
want to travel, just like whathappened with me when I was
checking the proximity toOrlando and the theme parks.
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It's about 30, 40 minutes asthe crow flies.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know, and so you don't have to worry about all
the craziness.
And, like I said, you get inand out of that airport so
easily.
Right, it's a piece of cake.
You don't have that craziness.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
So if you're coming into the Orlando area, it's
another question to ask.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Right, because this plane fly into.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Orlando.
Orlando, yeah, or Sanford,which is a smaller airport.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
It's a smaller airport and they too are going
through some changes as wellbecause they're building up as
well, so it's not going to be asbig as Orlando.
And, just to let people know,Orlando is a little chaotic
right now because now we haveA-side, B-side and C-side in the
Orlando airport, so Orlando isgetting busy.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
It is.
It's becoming very popular, andtrying to find a place to park
is even worse.
It's becoming very popular andtrying to find a place to park
is even worse.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Well, when I went to go pick up my sister, they
closed down A-side parking andB-side parking.
No, they closed down A and Cand left B open, and I had to go
meet her in C.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
C was open, I mean closed.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Oh yeah, Wow.
Yeah, they were closing parkinglots, which kind of got me a
little annoyed because I had totake the tram over to that in
particular side.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Well, that was that's .
But I used to think I couldpark and see at any time, you
would think.
But now of course they've gotthe railroad there.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
They got more building, they got the railroad
there, they're doing some, andthe seaside was supposed to be
only for international flights,but now JetBlue is on that side
as well, so just keep that inmind when you're going to pick
up people as well.
So if you hate those large andchaotic airports, check on some
of those smaller ones that mightbe near you and the way you
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want to go.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
This is like opening up a new idea for me.
I mean like ask there might beanother airport to go to Because
you just think of well, I wantto go to Boston, right?
I?
Speaker 3 (27:08):
mean, just like Chicago, Everybody thinks O'Hare
, but there is another airport,there's Logan, so you want to be
able to go into these otherairports Midway, Midway.
I mean you've got so manydifferent airports out there
that you can just, you know youcan go to that.
They do service, Right, but youknow it's a fun thing to do,
Uh-huh, and you see differentthings, different sites, yes,
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We've been doing lots oftraveling, both you and I and
our spouses.
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And then you do travel as well.
I am a travel advisor you're atravel advisor and we've been
traveling this year.
And we're going to be doingmore traveling.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
My calendar is getting full.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well, we can actually do these podcasts while we
travel too.
Absolutely yeah, that'll be fun.
That'll be fun, and we havelots of groups going too, so
people can travel with us?
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Well, that's what I want to know about.
We've got to start talkingabout the groups for next year.
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We are, we're going to start talking about the
groups for next year.
We are we're going to betalking about groups for next
year.
We have one for cruises.
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Yes.
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On Celebrity Cruise coming in July yes, 2025.
And we also have one going toIreland for 2025 in late
September.
All right, so we are excited.
We're getting stuff togetheryeah yeah, we're probably going
to do an Italy one too.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I was going to say this kind of reminds me of 2020.
Uh-huh, 2020.
When we started this dang thing, we just kept traveling.
Yes, All right let's get to thepodcast.
What do you say?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Well, you know, I'm always reviewing topics and tips
and more traveling.
I get all of this informationfrom all sources.
I get newspapers and magazinesand what I try to do is I try to
pass the information on toeverybody and I know many people
are becoming more and morefrustrated at the major airports
.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Right Flight delays, crazy crazy crowds and a whole
lot more what about majorairports.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, I know, major airports have the top airlines.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
And that's why so many people choose those
airports, right?
But today I'm going to chatabout smaller airports that may
help you feel a little bit morerelaxed, and some of them do
have some of the major airlines.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I think that would be a good idea.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You think Right, yes, yes, so you know, I've been to
smaller airports, I've been to alot of small airports and I've
been to some of the majorairports, right.
So I know how both of them areand as everybody knows my
feelings on the Denver airport.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I was just that's what flashed through my mind was
walking through the southwestarea from Denver.
There were so many people.
How many planes can they have?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Tons of people, tons of planes.
They're going under a massiveconstruction right now and
that's also getting everybodyvery confused.
Also, for people who don't know, the Denver airport lies on the
outskirts of the city 25 milesout of the city of Denver, right
.
So just be aware of that.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
It happens to be the largest land area of an airport.
Second to the largest in theworld.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
And your son lives out there.
My daughter lives out there, sowhen we fly, we're flying into
Denver.
Yes, so I know traveling out ofsome of the smaller airports
when I fly and, yes, sometimesthe smaller airports have the
budget airlines Right, but notall budget airlines are bad.
That's what I've been hearing.
Yeah, so you go to the smallerairport.
You can usually can easily getthrough check in all very
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quickly.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Very quickly.
Can I grab a cup of coffee?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
You can grab a cup of coffee and with the budget
airlines you know budgetairlines you can get through
those lines faster and, ofcourse, they have coffee and
food on the other side.
Right, you can even saveyourself a couple of dollars.
Wow, yeah, yeah.
So it's based on that.
So let's talk about whichsmaller airports what's?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
a smaller airport.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Okay, so you want to go to LA?
You want to go to Los Angeles,or perhaps San Diego, yeah, okay
, both airports are very big.
I've been to LAX many, manytimes, so try flying in or out
of Long Beach.
Long Beach does have JetBlue,southwest Hawaiian Delta and
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American Well, that's prettygood.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, Delta and American Well that's pretty good
.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, the Long Beach Airport is located off of the
405, which is a major highway inCalifornia, and only about four
miles from the ocean, so if thebeach is where you want to go,
it's right there.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, so okay, ring, ring, ring.
Yes, travel agent yes.
I would like to go to LosAngeles.
Okay, how do I miss the to goto Los Angeles?
Okay, how do I miss the LAXairport?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
How do you miss it?
How do I miss it?
Well, we first find out whatairlines they like.
Okay, some people love to flySouthwest.
Yes, so I can say okay, youlove Southwest, let's get you
into Long Beach and it is a niceairport.
I've been in and out of LongBeach a couple of times.
It's not bad at all.
So you're probably going tohave to rent a car, you know,
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particularly if you want to goto San Diego.
Oh, yeah.
So if you go to this Long Beachto go into San Diego, hop on the
5 and head south.
It's about two hours, but it'sa lot better than spending two
hours standing in a line Rightand getting all sorts of
frustrated I'm thinking it wasat the uh john wayne airport, is
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that uh?
John wayne, is is different.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, it's north isn't it a little north and
that's a smaller airport?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
yeah, it's kind of south near ontario it is yeah,
so you know and they've changednames around quite a bit but
long beach airport, that's whereyou want to go if you're
heading towards los angeles orsan die, because it's still a
pretty nice airport.
It has some of the majorairlines and the drive to San
Diego can be very pretty, youknow, because you're driving
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along the coast, so you've got alot of coastal views.
Yeah, so it'd be pretty cool.
Yeah, I've driven up and downthe five, the one I've been all
over California north and south.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Now what if I don't want to go to California and I
want to go to, like, boston orsomeplace?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Okay.
So if you're going to the far,far northeast, like Boston or
Portland, maine, you may want toconsider Bangor International,
and you know, I know Jerry isvery fond of Maine and you know,
I know Jerry is very fond ofMaine.
It's only about an hour fromBar Harbor but it's also an easy
drive to the state's mostpopular summertime areas.
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So you may have to drive a bitto get to Boston, but if you
want to see some small areasalong the way.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
you might want to think of Bangor, maine, bangor,
international.
Well, of course you drive.
Boston is such a large area youcould be driving to the
outskirts anyhow, so it'd beeasier to get to.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Exactly it cuts.
You might want to drive, itmight make you drive a little
bit more, but at least you'velanded, you're in a location and
you can get to where you'regoing and you're not standing on
a line getting frustratedtrying to get in and out of an
airport and it makes it a lotsimpler.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yes, mm-hmm, yes.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So before we take off for another airport, like that,
I am only punning you.
Okay, that's my trivia music.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So here's a trivia question what are you punning me
for?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Right, take off from another airport oh yeah.
Take off from another airport.
Yeah, okay.
So in which South African citycan you find Boulder's Beach,
which is inhabited by a largenumber of wild penguins?
Which is inhabited by a largenumber of wild penguins.
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I believe I need a multiplechoice on this.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay, let me see if I can find your multiple choice
on this South African cities.
See, I don't.
You're the one who wanted to goto South Africa.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, you know, I like animals.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
The penguins, do we want to do another tribute
question?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well, there's a ton of penguins on this beach.
Okay, how could I put this?
Let's see, I don't know if Ican give you any.
You're a South African fromSouth Africa, okay, well, I
don't think you're going to getit.
I can't give you any kind ofhint, because I'm trying to
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figure out a hint like I gaveyou the other day.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I'm sorry but you've got me at a loss because I do
not know any cities in SouthAfrica.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Okay, so Boulders Beach here's the answer is
located on the Cape Peninsula inSimonstown in the Western Cape
Province of South Africa, andit's commonly known as Boulders
Bay, and it has tons and tons ofpenguins.
It's absolutely adorable.
You see all the little penguinsthere.
The water is absolutelygorgeous and it's called
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Boulders Beach, simontown, capeTown, south Africa, so that's
where it's at.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, Now on the list of did Jay get these questions
right or wrong?
I want this one to be out inthe left field.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Well, cape Town, cape Town, South Africa.
It's kind of popular.
But yeah, there you go, CapeTown, south Africa, boulders
Beach Go see the penguins.
It is very pretty.
So there you go, jay.
We'll have to put that on ourbucket list.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Okay, it's called Stump the Old man.
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Stump Jay, stump Jay.
Maybe we can call it trivia.
We'll call it Stump Jay, newname for the episode.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Stump Jay.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Stump Jay, all right.
So let's get back to theairport, shall we?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
What about Texas?
I ever go to Texas.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You know I have not been, I have not flown into
Texas.
I've driven into Texas many,many times, but I haven't flown
in.
Yeah, so if you're thinking ofDallas instead of Dallas-Fort
Worth, think of Dallas LoveField Airport.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Absolutely the old Love Field.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Right, it's a little bit older.
It's less than 20 miles fromDallas.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, it's more compact and it may be a cheaper
alternative if you're flyinginto Dallas.
It's also a major hub forSouthwest Airlines.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Absolutely so, if you like Southwest Airlines.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
there you go and it's actually closer to downtown
Dallas, and apparently theairport just had some recent
updates too.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I would hope.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, I mean it's been around for a while, but
they've been updating and, likeI said, it's only 20 miles from
the city.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Basically, when you're looking at small airports
, you're probably looking atSouthwest.
It's got most of the service.
Would that be wrong?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Probably not completely accurate.
Not completely accurate, youjust have to question it.
All right Certain things.
They don't have it.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Okay, so we've been to LA.
We've been Boston or not Dallas?
Where are we going next?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Now, if you're flying to Philadelphia or Newark now
I've flown into Newark.
It is a crazy airport you maywant to consider Lehigh Valley
International.
Oh, the airlines that servicehere are American Allegiant,
delta and United Okay, so you'vegot a couple of biggies there,
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you know and also Allegiant.
This airport is located abouthalfway between both
Philadelphia and Newark airports, so it's not too far.
It's about an hour's driveeither way, and of course, it
also knocks on the door ofManhattan.
So New York City, new York City, new York, new York, right.
So this airport is small.
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It's clean and convenient.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And that's the important thing.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, because when you get into places like New
York, I hear a lot of dingingand that's not me.
It's not me, I don't know whereit's coming from we're getting
dinged.
Somebody's dinging us?
Do I have my?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
phone on or something .
No, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
My phone's off to the side, so it's not even yelling
at me.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I wonder okay.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Maybe somebody wants to get on one of these planes
they want right away.
Okay.
So just knowing Philadelphia orNewark, think Lehigh Valley
International.
It's a smaller airport but itservices some of the bigger
planes American, delta, unitedand, of course, allegiant Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Allegiant is okay.
I think we're going to betalking about that a little
later.
Yep, yep, yep so let's talkabout where else are we going?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Well, everybody's heard of SeaTac.
You know, you've heard ofSeaTac.
Jay, Seattle, Tacoma.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
No, I haven't you haven't.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That's the major airport in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Okay, so we've been talking a lot about the East
Coast, the South and the West,like.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Texas.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
But this is Washington.
State.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
That's probably one of those things that's on my
bucket list, because I've neverbeen to Seattle.
You've never been to Seattle,never been to Seattle?
Oh my, you have to go toSeattle.
It's a great city, yes, it's agreat little city.
So SeaTac is the major onethere and I've flown in and out
of this airport.
Now, I didn't find it hard tonavigate.
It was large but not too crazy.
It was large but not too crazy.
So I was surprised.
But if you want less crowds,think Plainfield Airport, and
this is in Snohomish County.
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Can you say that again?
Snohomish?
Can you spell that for me?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
S-N-O-H-O-M-I-S-H County.
It must be a county in thestate of Washington, right.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
So if you're looking up at the state of Washington on
your map, you're going to goand look to the east, so it's
east of SeaTac.
Not too many airlines fly inand out of here, though, but
there are two majors that go inand out Alaska and United, so
that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Alaska Airlines travels quite a bit and United
Airlines is a major, so if Iwant to go to Alaska from here,
I'd probably have to fly Unitedto this airport, snohomish.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
And then Plainfield Airport, and plain is
P-L-A-I-N-E Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
So just think Alaska and United.
However, with this airport,it's only about 30 miles north
of downtown Seattle and it's aneasy car ride to Vancouver.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And I've been to Vancouver as well.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Now I've driven from Seattle Airport the SeaTac
Airport to a hotel.
It took me over 30 minutes toget to the hotel and that was in
downtown Seattle, so just keepthat in mind when you're looking
at this.
So again, you can skip sometraffic on Interstate 5.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Now, what you've been saying here is that most of
these airports are like 25 milesfrom these major areas.
Well except for the one in LosAngeles, and we talked about the
fact that Denver's airport is25 miles Outside the city
already.
But when you think of thatsucker, you go out into the
prairie, you're going out on theprairie land.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Right.
Basically, you see the bighorse with the red eyes coming
into.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Denver.
Did you see that one?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, that's kind of scary.
All right, so before I get tothe last of my list of smaller
airports, we want to talk abouta travel tip.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, you know, and you have something to say, I've
got something to say.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What do you got?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
to say.
Speaking of smaller airports,right, my wife and I were flying
out of Bozeman, right, montana,which is a smaller airport,
right, but it's one of thoseairports that's really grown.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Now didn't you fly into Denver?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Flew to.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Denver, and then you flew back home from Bozeman Jack
.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So the trip was I rented a car to drive from
Denver to Bozeman, Right, Okay,so the rental car company.
May I say its name?
You can.
The rental car company Ava'stried to gouge me for 11 days
that I never had the car.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
And you told me that you had to do a drop-off early
because you guys were flying outearly, so there was no person
to really take your paperwork.
Right, Right, right.
So there was no person toreally take your paperwork right
, right, right.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
We left the car at the airport at 4 am in the
morning for a 6 am flight.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
And then they said that you never returned the car
until a certain time becausethey didn't file the paperwork,
and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You know that's it.
But finally it's taken me 22emails back and forth.
I have contacted my credit cardcompany to dispute the charge
Absolutely, and which theyfinally helped me with Right,
and so I finally did get acredit Right.
So I'm feeling much better.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Okay, there's a couple of ways around this.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
One is when you got to the airport, you had to drop
it off at a certain location.
I'm feeling much better.
Okay, there's a couple of waysaround this.
One is when you got to theairport, you had to drop it off
at a certain location.
I'm sure, yes, Right, Did ithave a number bin that you just
drove into where it says you?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
know A2 or whatever it did, and I think it was 54.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Okay, but.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I don't, I can't.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Take a picture with a timestamp on your car.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I can't Take a picture with a timestamp on your
car.
That's what I didn't do.
Yeah, that's what I didn't doso.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
This way, you know, you could have immediately sent
it to the Avis people and then Iwould have, upon arriving in my
hometown, contact Avis to letthem know hey, I parked the car
in such and such and give them aheads up, because sometimes,
you know, people are human andthey make mistakes and they're
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not filing these thingsappropriately.
So, yeah, you may run into itnow.
So if you had somebody like atravel agent, yes, helping you,
they would have been able totalk to you and talk to them
with a with a car rental with acar rental.
Travel agents do car rentals aswell.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Now.
So the only thing I had toverify the fact that I didn't
have the car on that date was Itook a selfie of myself and my
wife at the Orlando airport atthree o'clock in the afternoon,
Timestamp.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Luckily you had that one.
So always make sure you take apicture of where you're dropping
off the car, with a time stampon it.
This way, in case there's anyquestion, they can see it.
Because, again, people arehuman.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
They're not filing their paperwork on time, or the
computers have a glitch and thatdoesn't get filed properly, and
blah blah, blah, blah, blah soyou know, up until today, when I
was going to do this podcast, Iwas ready to go crazy, but at
least it's been rectified andI'm feeling a little better.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I knew it would get rectified.
It's just a matter of time andit's a headache.
Yes, so you don't want theheadache?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
As I said, 22 different emails are asking for
let me see the original Rightfor let me see the original
Right that I had.
I had a copy of the originalagreement.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, that's good.
You always make sure you saveyour paper and you take the
pictures.
Oh, the other thing, uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
And I contacted they wanted me to make.
They said did you really flyout of that airport at that time
, right?
How do you verify that?
Well, you're supposed to keep.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Your ticket.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And of.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You didn't have it on your phone.
I get a paper, jay, what am Igoing to do with you?
We got to get you into the 20thcentury at least.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And I talked to a representative from Southwest
and she said did you keep yourboarding pass?
I said no.
She said well, I don't either.
I throw mine away too.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, just make sure you have it on your phone too.
Always have backup, backup,backup.
Because, yes, have it on yourphone too.
Always have backup, backup,backup.
Because, yes, we live in acomputerized world and computers
crash and burn and all sorts offun stuff I'm not used to.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I cannot get into this phone using the phone as my
ticket.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Oh, it's so easy.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But but okay, so I probably should have taken a
picture of that boarding pass.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
That's what I could have done.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I take pictures of everything, so it's always good
to have.
And you talk to a lawyer andthey'll say, when you fall down,
take a picture right away.
So always keep that in mind.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
So that is my travel tip.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
That's your travel tip.
Okay, do you want to hear mytravel tip?
I'm not sure we have time forit, no time for it, but that's
okay.
There are a lot of things to doin travels and travel tips.
So, jay, I only have a couplemore small airports today.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
All right.
Well, let's talk about somesmall airports.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Okay, Thinking of going to New York City or the
surrounding areas.
Of course, everyone's heard ofJFK.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Which is a big airport.
It's a monster.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
And LaGuardia, which is a small old airport.
It's not that small, it's prettybig.
I don't like flying in or outof LaGuardia, and there's a
reason for it.
Um, they have a short runwayright and that runway is very
scary, Like when you're about totake off.
It's like am I going in thedrink or coming down?
Are we going in the drink?
Are we going to make him?
(21:44):
But they always seem to land.
But I personally don't likeLaGuardia.
I don't mind JFK, it is alittle bit more chaotic.
But instead of thinkingLaGuardia or JFK, think of
MacArthur Airport.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Where is that located ?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
That's located in Islip, new York, which is on
Long Island, and it housesSouthwest American and Frontier
service this airport.
It houses Southwest Americanand Frontier service this
airport.
Oh, okay, so if you're thinkingof considering a trip to the
Hamptons or Fire Island, if youwant to go into New York City
New York City, the Big Apple,manhattan, it's Long Island you
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can jump on the railroad outthere.
Or, you know, I don't recommendtaking a car into Manhattan.
No, you really don't need one.
And if you take one in there,be prepared to get cranky and
aggravated.
But you can jump on therailroad, long Island Railroad.
It's only about a 10-minute cabdrive from the airport.
(22:42):
I've been on the Long IslandRailroad.
It is a commuter train.
Just keep that in mind whenyou're on the li rr.
Commuter trains are fantastic.
Well, the long island railroadhas some issues.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It does have some issues, so just bring your
patients with you, but it's aneasier fix okay, yeah, um, I'm
saying, if I want to fly intonew york city and I'm calling
southwest right, are they goingto immediately run me into this
airport?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
No, you'll have to ask for it.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Because you'll say well, I want to go to New York,
and that's the first thingthey're going to say JFK, okay,
that's going to be the firstthings off their lips.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
But you say, well, I don't want the traffic.
What about MacArthur?
Bring it to their attention,okay, Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
All right.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Also say that with your travel advisor, because a
travel advisor is going to dothe same thing.
They're going to put you in thebigger airports, unless you
tell them.
I don't want the headache, Iwant to be at the smaller
airport.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And I'm sure my travel advisor is going to ask
the right questions to make surethe person knows where they
want to go.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Right, where are you going, what do you want to do
and how much aggravation do youwant?
So now, the last on my listright now is where I sometimes
fly in and out of, and that'sthe Sanford Orlando
International Airport.
Yes, yes, it's very simple.
It's easy to navigate.
You get through the checkpointsvery quickly, but need to be
(24:03):
aware of the airlines thatservice the airport.
I use allegiant uh-huh, okay,but I also need to watch their
flight dates, because sometimesyou can go but you can't always
come back well, that's what Iwas.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
That is the exciting thing about that airline to me
because they give you economyrates.
Get you there, but you got toknow you got to stay a week.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Well, the whole thing is like just you know, not too
long ago I was going to go outto South Dakota.
Yeah, but we could get there inthat month, but we would have
to wait like almost two and ahalf months to get back, because
that's when the service stopped.
And then it picked back up twoand a half months later.
So we couldn't go at that timevia the airline Wow.
So we couldn't go at that timevia the airline Wow.
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So always be aware of that.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
So what other airlines fly out of Stanford?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Well, they also have Spirit, Sun Country and United.
But remember it's aninternational airport, so you
got to remember some of theseplanes will not fly in and out.
You always have to double check.
So just check if they fly thereand if they fly out when you
want to travel, just like whathappened with me when I was
checking the proximity toOrlando and the theme parks.
(25:16):
It's about 30, 40 minutes asthe crow flies.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know, and so you don't have to worry about all
the craziness.
And, like I said, you get inand out of that airport so
easily.
Right, it's a piece of cake.
You don't have that craziness.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
So if you're coming into the Orlando area, it's
another question to ask.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Right, because this plane fly into.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Orlando.
Orlando, yeah, or Sanford,which is a smaller airport.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
It's a smaller airport and they too are going
through some changes as wellbecause they're building up as
well, so it's not going to be asbig as Orlando.
And, just to let people know,Orlando is a little chaotic
right now because now we haveA-side, B-side and C-side in the
Orlando airport, so Orlando isgetting busy.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
It is.
It's becoming very popular, andtrying to find a place to park
is even worse.
It's becoming very popular andtrying to find a place to park
is even worse.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Well, when I went to go pick up my sister, they
closed down A-side parking andB-side parking.
No, they closed down A and Cand left B open, and I had to go
meet her in C.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
C was open, I mean closed.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Oh yeah, Wow.
Yeah, they were closing parkinglots, which kind of got me a
little annoyed because I had totake the tram over to that in
particular side.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Well, that was that's .
But I used to think I couldpark and see at any time, you
would think.
But now of course they've gotthe railroad there.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
They got more building, they got the railroad
there, they're doing some, andthe seaside was supposed to be
only for international flights,but now JetBlue is on that side
as well, so just keep that inmind when you're going to pick
up people as well.
So if you hate those large andchaotic airports, check on some
of those smaller ones that mightbe near you and the way you
(26:57):
want to go.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
This is like opening up a new idea for me.
I mean like ask there might beanother airport to go to Because
you just think of well, I wantto go to Boston, right?
I?
Speaker 3 (27:08):
mean, just like Chicago, Everybody thinks O'Hare
, but there is another airport,there's Logan, so you want to be
able to go into these otherairports Midway, Midway.
I mean you've got so manydifferent airports out there
that you can just, you know youcan go to that.
They do service, Right, but youknow it's a fun thing to do,
Uh-huh, and you see differentthings, different sites, yes,
(27:32):
Well, there's so much travelingto do and so little time to do
it in.
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You learn all about all thedifferent cultures, the
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lifestyles and mine and Jay'sfavorite the food.
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