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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge. Timing is everything.
The door opened, Spencer Susman walks in the song ended
you were on. Here we go, Hi, Spencer, there he is,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thank you very much. It's very very very good to
be here.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
God, we saw you how many years ago, four five, five,
five years ago, and you had fantastic hair then, and
you have fantastic hare now.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Thank you. It's just a little bit longer now.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, he's got an album coming out next next month.
I mean it's all about music, of course, Daniel makes
it about how you smell and what you look like
whenever you walk, and I always smell you. So far
you smell great. That's great news. I'm so sorry we've
we've gone from the deep probing interview.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I think we should focus on how I smell, not
the record that I have coming out. Because are you
nervous a little bit?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Why?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Because I walked in and sat down and thirty seconds
later we're talking. I know we didn't give you any
time to relax, Okay, I like it that way. So
I think I met you at a function. It was
an industry function, like a wine dinner. Yeah, you're wearing
a blue You're wearing a leather jacket. What's that really? Yes,
(01:11):
that adds up for me in like twenty eighteen. I
think that feels like like probably skinny rip jeans. I
think it could be. Yeah, sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
But you know what, So here's the thing, Spencer Sutherland.
Is I believe from Ohio R Yes, raised you know
Gandhi's Ohio.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I know. I listened to you growing up. I listened to.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Oh my god, I love this.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
It's amazing see someone someone does care. I care.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'm here to care. I know you care.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm here to smell good and care. So thank god,
we're so busy. We have so many, so many boxes
to check off.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So yeah, I met you, and that was years ago
at Alyssa Pollock's wine dinner. That's where it was, Yeah,
shout out Alissa and uh and then you came to
see us. You performed first then and then pandemic hit
and you really kind of you really bounced on TikTok
during pandemic. I'm assuming that's that's where it really started exploding.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Right, Yeah, I mean I genuinely changed my life, like so,
I kind of fought social media.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
At the beginning, it was like, oh, real artists don't
need to be on here.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
And then I saw Bruno Mars in there and I
was like, well, you know, I think that we need
to reevaluate. And then that genuinely over the next couple
of years like changed everything. It was insane so cool.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So it's safe to say Pandemic had some great, great
moments for you. Yeah, in your life, we all say, definitely,
I've I mastered Banana Bread Bacon really so we got
that covid did you bring any and ty Dike No, No,
I'm over that phase. So the album coming out, okay, So, uh,
(02:43):
how do you describe it? There's there. It's kind of
a rock opera ish kind of feel. It's like Queen
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, it's a little I don't use names of other bands,
but oh I don't care.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I don't you know if you're if anybody's putting me
in the same sentence with Queen and David Bowie and
Elton John, that's great.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's like a love child of all like the best
glam rock stuff. I remember how I felt when I
heard like my first like you know, like full record,
the one that changed my life all those and I've
always wanted to make one, but it's hard to do,
like a song with like a six minute guitar solo
for gen Z fans.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I think.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So it's like a it's like a modern rock opera.
It's like my version of that. I always say that
when I was a kid, I broke into my brother's bedroom.
I found his pot drawer, but beyond that, I found
his turntable and huge speakers and amplifier, and he said,
if you ever get into my room and mess with
my albums, I'll kill you. So Queen and Bohemian Rhapsody
was the first record I ever listened to. To me, that
(03:43):
is a the ultimate of rock opera.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It's maybe the best album ever.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
It's I mean, every everything, all those like all that
music is just so special and cool, and I really
want to bring back that feel to pop music because
I think, I don't know, I think he's missing a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The name of the album, of course, is the drama.
The drama, right? And why why did you decide this
was important for this body of work because then I
could wear these shirts and go places. This is my Seinfeld.
What's it called? Like the the pirate shirt.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, when I wear this, did.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
You actually dress as like Elvis Presley when you went
to school when you're a kid?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Hell yeah? Can I say hell y on this?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You can go as far as you say. Penises. Penis
is a good one.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, Penis.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Live from New York. Penis exactly really pretty much says
it all. But I mean, so you've you've been sort
of of a c at all. You've been a You've
been a creature of drama since you were a kid,
even before you knew what drama really meant. So if
you if you do rock opera ish things in an
album called the Drama, where does that take us in
(04:55):
your mind?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, I mean genuinely, I like think it's I think
it's great to romanticize your life and like kind of
treat it like a movie sometimes, and that that is
kind of what this is. It's like, it's like the
story of me. It's the story of my life and
and really my like experience in the music industry because
it's been treacherous and also it has it has been
(05:18):
a lot of people, you know, like fake promises and everything,
and and but there's a lot of good people like
it's it's great to see you again. And you're one
of the people that gave me a chance, like really
early on before probably before I was ready for the show,
and I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And there's a lot of good people. You're ready, I'm ready,
You're ready? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
What is it? Did you wake up one morning.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Go I'm ready?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Something just clicks You're like, Okay, I was great. I
was good, I was learning, but now I'm I'm ready
to go and get this done.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I was trying to make very goalpost pop music and
just stuff that I heard in the radio. And then
I looked at my my my Spotify, and it was
like seventies music and eighties music and Elvis and Prince
and I was like, hmmm, something is not connecting here.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So I kind of took a step back and genuinely like,
like I read people's comments on TikTok, why were these
videos going viral? Like what was the thing about this
that like the one hundred before didn't, but this one did.
Then I started following that and doing research and deep
diving and and and they led this sounds kind of cheesy,
but they did lead me to like who who I
(06:26):
truly am I swear.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I'm really that's cheesy at all.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I was really nervous to wear nail polish the first time,
and then I got like a thousand like, oh my god,
I love me nail polish. It made me feel like
I could be me.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You know, Okay, all right good.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I started wearing my girlfriend's shirts and people were like,
let's go nic I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, nice and tight.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
And when you talk about the treachery of the music industry,
I feel like that is what everyone is talking about
right now. It's very of the moment. Are you reading
things and seeing things that you absolutely relate to?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, I mean there's just like this whole like sorr,
there's this whole, this whole, like this idea that when
when you look at the music industry and you could
used to be able to get away with things, and
I feel like you just can't get away with stuff
because artists are speaking up now and like people are
talking about it and and so that's like been a
(07:18):
really big thing. Is I'm like, yeah, been there, done that,
heard that, been there, and it's just like really, uh,
it's a little bit refreshing. But I feel bad for
some people because I just gotten to a point where
I don't sounds.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
A little bit bad. I just don't believe a lot
of people anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
It's okay, yeah we don't. I'll believe you when I
trust you. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
So I've been told like you could be the next
so many times and I've never even heard of that.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Well, so wait, is that what you can tell yourself now?
Like you're thirty one? Now, right, you're thirty one, I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Twenty one, twenty first birthday.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Oh so you're twenty one? Now what would you No,
you're not.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
What would you tell me?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I could play a high school senior right now?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You got usually yeah, I think get it on my way,
NERD years thirty one. Back to my question, So sorry,
that's fine. What would you tell you? Is that what
you would tell yourself if you look at your younger self? Now,
don't trust everybody?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I would say when when I was like going through,
especially in my early twenties, I thought I was running
out of time.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I thought I was like, oh my god, to be
a pop starry, you gotta be this age or like.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And now I've never felt more like myself than right
now in my life. I feel like the last genuinely
two years. I figured it out, and I would go
back and just be like, relax, learn how to play
guitar better, and chill out. Everything's gonna be great. You'll
find it, you'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You know. I hear this all the time. If you
could tell your twenty year old self, no, that's b it.
You need to go you need to go through those
years of rap. Yeah, but there's a couple of things,
like you'd like to go back and just say, don't
do that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I would still go through it.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I would just be like, hey, just like, instead of
letting it keep you up all damn night? Yeah, can't
I say damn.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Instead of you say Penis you're gonna say damn?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Wells was gonna say instead of letting it keep you
up all Penis night? You should just you should just
you know what I mean, I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
You shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, we we've become at early twenties, we become so
obsessed that we let it take over our lives. And yeah,
well look, okay, by the way, turning us on Spencer
Sutherland is here, I have a call. Hold on By
the way, there will be a song performed live.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Are you okay with that? Good sounds great? You have
a guitar with you? Can you get this?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I think, Mama, I'm waiting for impanada mama to deliver
my breakfast.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
What did you get panadas? You ready? I don't?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I don't we distain your blouse? Hold on, Steph? Is
this you?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It is obviously you're a big fan of Spencer Sutherland
a long time, which is sweird. Since how long? For
how long?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Twenty fourteen? Wow? That's ten years? Yeah, I did the math.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, how did Howard?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I saw him at run around Tour at six Flags
and Jackson's in New Jersey. Wow, Steph? What's your last name? Plaza?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You should know what I know?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Exactly who you are, exactly who you are. No, this
is like this is what I call before a day
one Like this is genuinely I think I was doing like.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Like covers of Isy Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Right, okay, that's how I found you.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Oh my god, that's so cool.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Wow? Yeah you live in you live in Jersey? Right?
I do live in Jersey?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Wow, I do know, Steph. I know you.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I feel like you're like a mentalist as well. I
hear the word Abigail, the name Abigail. What does that
mean to you?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
There's an old lady looking over your shoulder.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
See so stell love So you know, so you've watched
Spencer Sutherland, uh, of course through the years, and he's
turned into an incredible performer as you're about to here
here and so she was there on level one.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I mean you were in the basement actually, And I
really appreciate that's very sweet. It's nice to talk to
you stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'm so happy to be hearing you in D one hundred.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I listened to D one hundred every single morning on
my way to work.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
So to hear your.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Voice and hear you talking on D one hundred, it's incredible.
There you go.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You're so sweet. I love you so much.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I love you. Make sure you turn it on. He's
about to sing. This is great. So, so there was
a guy walking down the street with a guitar and
you say, hey, let's invite him in.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, he looked handsome.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
He had a cool fade haircut and a rose shirt on.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I just thought and rings he looked great.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, I saw him and then I asked his name
and he said Vin And I was like, you know,
what Let's.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Bring Vin in. By the way, you guys have met
Vin before. He he performed with Lessia Kara.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Oh yeah, familiar, Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
He gets around a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
He's a whore when it comes to that guitar. You
can say that too, Vin, thank you for coming in today.