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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fie the mom Amen brother seven twenty three, our time
here in Houston's born of news height danger against Texas ranchers.
Let's talk about that. Joining us is Tarrell County Sheriff,
Thatius Cleveland. By the way, Sheriff, I love your name.
Are you sure you were in a previous life weren't
a Thateus Cleveland, who was sheriff of Tarrell County in
eighteen sixty nine. No?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, first of all, Jimmy, thanks for having me on.
And I know I wasn't, but but oddly enough, we
did have a sheriff back here in nineteen eighteen that
was actually killed in the line of duty and he
was part of Billy the Kids Gain. He was arrested, tried,
found guilty, and pardoned by Grover Cleveland, and then became
our sheriff. So so some interesting history there. Wow, no kid,
I got goosebumps over that. All right, Well, let's talk
(00:41):
about Sid Meler. He's a commissioner, he's a advising extreme caution.
We have a cartel suspected explosive advice that killed a
Texas rancher. What can you fill us in about this?
What happened? Well, first of all, I'd like to say,
you know, that's the music we danced to down here
on the Southwest border. I'm a native of Carrol County,
grew up here, spent a career in the US Border Patrol,
and then i'd still be a border agent. But our
sure passed way, so I became sure. So when we
(01:03):
talk about cartel violence, usually it's it's contained, you know,
cartel against cartel, and even you know, we like said
that there's no cartel violence in the United States, but
I can tell you that up in some of these
cities where where the dangerous drugs and criminal aliens are
taken to that that we may not see it carried
out on US citizens, but there definitely is cartel violence
against cartels in here in the United States as well.
(01:23):
But what happened down there in Brownsville on the Mexican side,
that there was an ied that a rancher hit the
rancher wats from here in the United States, and I
understand through open source media there was a couple others
that we were killed as well. You know that that's
unique we've seen here in the recent past, just some
kind of what we've seen in Ukraine. We're seeing the
cartels utilize drones on each other. We're now seeing these
(01:46):
i eds which which were certainly to be used against
each other, not necessarily killing in the civilians. So, you know,
as pressure on the border escalatees, meaning you know, President
Trump coming in cleaning up the border and getting it
back to uh control level, Uh, likely, we'll see the
cartels go go in a different direction, try to get
their their products through, and I believe we'll see an
(02:09):
escalation of of more things like this.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Okay, but but says I'm what you're saying is is
that you know, in in the day the case of
this particular rancher, and in any violence that so far
has been happening against the American farmers and ranchers in
your part of the world, it's collateral damage. It's not
intended to be against them. It's just that they have
to be caught in the middle of between a couple
of cartel groups that are warring against each other.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yes, sure, that's thank you, Thank you for clarifying that.
That definitely, And again it's it's it's not uncommon even
you know, for US arbitral agents. Of course, Texas Department
Public Safety or local LW enforcement to uh to be
involved in in shots being across you know, across the border.
But again there's just to this point, nothing that's been
you know, targeting American citizens.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Have you seen the change in cartel activity since President
Trump took over. I mean, we know what's happened at
the border as far as fewer and fewer people trying
to sneak across the border. What about cartel activity.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know, so again cartel activity, we have seen some skirmishes,
if you will, between the different factions. And that's because
what President Trump has done along the border, you know, again,
first and foremost just his voice letting the rest of
the world know you're not going to come to our
country illegally. That that has has set the tone and
made a huge difference. And then of course having border
patrol agents getting back to their their normal duties, you know,
(03:29):
patrolling between the ports of entry supported by the Department
of Defense. That's that has tightened up the border. It
will continue to tighten up the border. And right now
the cartel's just kind of sit back in what I
like to say and what we like to say in
the border patrols, you know, watching to see what our
next move is so they can they can find their
opportunities to uh to get their their drugs and people
(03:50):
through the border.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
They're very good adjusting, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They're usually a step ahead.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yep. Unfortunately, you're right all right, sir. Thank you, best
of luck down there, and thank you for what you do.
Tarrell County Sheriff Thattius Cleveland joining US
Fie the mom Amen brother seven twenty three, our time
here in Houston's born of news height danger against Texas ranchers.
Let's talk about that. Joining us is Tarrell County Sheriff,
Thatius Cleveland. By the way, Sheriff, I love your name.
Are you sure you were in a previous life weren't
a Thateus Cleveland, who was sheriff of Tarrell County in
eighteen sixty nine. No?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, first of all, Jimmy, thanks for having me on.
And I know I wasn't, but but oddly enough, we
did have a sheriff back here in nineteen eighteen that
was actually killed in the line of duty and he
was part of Billy the Kids Gain. He was arrested, tried,
found guilty, and pardoned by Grover Cleveland, and then became
our sheriff. So so some interesting history there. Wow, no kid,
I got goosebumps over that. All right, Well, let's talk
(00:41):
about Sid Meler. He's a commissioner, he's a advising extreme caution.
We have a cartel suspected explosive advice that killed a
Texas rancher. What can you fill us in about this?
What happened? Well, first of all, I'd like to say,
you know, that's the music we danced to down here
on the Southwest border. I'm a native of Carrol County,
grew up here, spent a career in the US Border Patrol,
and then i'd still be a border agent. But our
sure passed way, so I became sure. So when we
(01:03):
talk about cartel violence, usually it's it's contained, you know,
cartel against cartel, and even you know, we like said
that there's no cartel violence in the United States, but
I can tell you that up in some of these
cities where where the dangerous drugs and criminal aliens are
taken to that that we may not see it carried
out on US citizens, but there definitely is cartel violence
against cartels in here in the United States as well.
(01:23):
But what happened down there in Brownsville on the Mexican side,
that there was an ied that a rancher hit the
rancher wats from here in the United States, and I
understand through open source media there was a couple others
that we were killed as well. You know that that's
unique we've seen here in the recent past, just some
kind of what we've seen in Ukraine. We're seeing the
cartels utilize drones on each other. We're now seeing these
(01:46):
i eds which which were certainly to be used against
each other, not necessarily killing in the civilians. So, you know,
as pressure on the border escalatees, meaning you know, President
Trump coming in cleaning up the border and getting it
back to uh control level, Uh, likely, we'll see the
cartels go go in a different direction, try to get
their their products through, and I believe we'll see an
(02:09):
escalation of of more things like this.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Okay, but but says I'm what you're saying is is
that you know, in in the day the case of
this particular rancher, and in any violence that so far
has been happening against the American farmers and ranchers in
your part of the world, it's collateral damage. It's not
intended to be against them. It's just that they have
to be caught in the middle of between a couple
of cartel groups that are warring against each other.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yes, sure, that's thank you, Thank you for clarifying that.
That definitely, And again it's it's it's not uncommon even
you know, for US arbitral agents. Of course, Texas Department
Public Safety or local LW enforcement to uh to be
involved in in shots being across you know, across the border.
But again there's just to this point, nothing that's been
you know, targeting American citizens.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Have you seen the change in cartel activity since President
Trump took over. I mean, we know what's happened at
the border as far as fewer and fewer people trying
to sneak across the border. What about cartel activity.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know, so again cartel activity, we have seen some skirmishes,
if you will, between the different factions. And that's because
what President Trump has done along the border, you know, again,
first and foremost just his voice letting the rest of
the world know you're not going to come to our
country illegally. That that has has set the tone and
made a huge difference. And then of course having border
patrol agents getting back to their their normal duties, you know,
(03:29):
patrolling between the ports of entry supported by the Department
of Defense. That's that has tightened up the border. It
will continue to tighten up the border. And right now
the cartel's just kind of sit back in what I
like to say and what we like to say in
the border patrols, you know, watching to see what our
next move is so they can they can find their
opportunities to uh to get their their drugs and people
(03:50):
through the border.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
They're very good adjusting, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They're usually a step ahead.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yep. Unfortunately, you're right all right, sir. Thank you, best
of luck down there, and thank you for what you do.
Tarrell County Sheriff Thattius Cleveland joining US
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