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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
Hello and welcome in. Do another Friday edition of The
Matt Thomas Show with Ross without Matt Thomas. There is
no doubt in my mind. I'm broke. You better get
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Speaker 4 (00:30):
Hey, Matt, I've done a lot of tailgates with my
traveling Texans group, buddy, but you crushed it out of
the park. I want your brought worst in my mouth.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
If they had to put the pope up Ross and said,
you know, I want you to listen to this, well,
he's Catholic.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
He can't possibly get this right. Sticking people. Have you
not gotten laid lately?

Speaker 6 (00:50):
Or what?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Whoa?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
His wife's listening? They of course have sex.

Speaker 7 (00:55):
Well you better take care of this boy because he's
on a real hate side right now.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
I am very heterosexual. I'm ridiculously heterosexual. But there are
some metrosexual performers that.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I really like.

Speaker 8 (01:08):
I love this.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I just this is like radio sex. It's how it's good.
That is weird? You know what I mean? No, I
don't you do. I'm done? That actually works really well
with this is Radio sex and then the I'm done
from Chris Gordya. I need a context for a couple
of those.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Hi, Welcome into the Matt Thomy Show with Ross without
Matt Thomas, I'm ros virial. Chris Gordy's hanging out for
a couple of hours. We will have Dan Matthews along
the way as well.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
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sports Harvy, at Chris Gordy, at Connor deep McGovern. What
was the whole discussion about you? What were you? He said,

(02:02):
you're you're hating on things too much? What was that
collar talking about earlier? It was?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I was still I was on my ut rant oh
this week about the last schedule.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
What did the long Horns ever do to you?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Man? Come on nothing, that's the point. They haven't played
any any good teams.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
To well, they're gonna they're gonna play Georgia again. Yeah,
this week in the SEC Championship game. Line's still sitting half.
I thought all week, I thought it opened it one
and a half. It's been original all week. So the Longhorns,
despite losing at home to the Georgia Bulldogs, are favored
in Atlanta against the Georgia Bulldogs this weekend. And as

(02:39):
you said yesterday, I think would you say they're getting
crushed Georgia is gonna boat race them?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
No, I actually do think I think it would be
a cool story if Texas is able to uh, I.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Think it'd be great win.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I think it would be a fantastic still, And it's
kind of funny because all these years in the Big Twelve,
they didn't win a whole lot of Big Twelve titles,
so four of them, I think it'd be fun fun
for them to come in and win the SEC title
in your one.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Ninety six, five, eight, and then the last one last
year I think is the only four.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I'm sorry, oh, nine, not a eight. Kirby Smart was
gaslighting yesterday was all arch manning. I mean this guy, yeah,
what was that?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Like? One of the best quarteracks I've ever seen. He
does it all and well he used to backup to
Quinn Yours. I feel like this Longhorned team is a
great quarterback away for me, feeling like they are just
a complete dominant team. And I would be afraid of
anybody on the planet. But when you are Quin Yours
into the equation, I get a little scared.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
There is a push I've seen on social media from
some Longhorned folks. There was a story written today that said,
if the Longhorns want to get where they want to go,
they need to just turn the page to arts now.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Now, with the SEC championship game coming up, it feels
like they should have done it weeks ago. But okay,
I have a question for you, and I was thinking
about this, and we're not going to talk a bunch
of about college football, but we're getting into it right now.
We still have some text and stuff to get to.
We have Alex Bregman Brian mctagger talking on him yesterday
on the A Team. Want to bring you guys some
of that. But real quickly I was thinking about this.

(04:08):
I think yesterday, do we at some point, not just
in a red zone package like we've seen before, do
we see at some point Quinn you weres legitimately replaced
by arch Manning, not necessarily in the SEC Championship game,
but from now to the end of the season, whether
it be the SEC Championship game or the playoff or

(04:29):
at some point.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Well, I think it's a topic is because last time
these two teams played, Quinn did get benched. Yes, they
went to arch to see if he could pride a spark,
and then in the second half they went back to Quinn,
and Quinn played well, and Sark even said that this
week he's like, yeah, you know, we got confidence at
Quinn and he played well in that second half against Georgia.
But if he comes out and struggles in this one

(04:51):
and throws an early pick and then they go three
and out, three and out, I think number sixteen's coming
in there.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
You can making my stomach hurt. I don't even know
what to think about all this. I'm so nervous. Well,
the good news is, even if you lose this, you're
in the playoffs. That's true.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
So which actually i'd make a case like, yes, you
want to buy and you want to advance, Yes, to
get the extra week off, But the constellation is you
get to host a playoff game at DVKR like, that's
not a bad situation.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
So yeah, but it would also be another week. I
don't know exactly what the latest on the one of
the best left tackles in the country, Calvin Banks hurt
last week. Yeah, he did not pray or he was
the question listen is questionable yesterday.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
He's their only player listed as questionable. Okay, I think
he's not going to play. I think he's not either,
because here's the deal. If you are able, fortunate enough
to win this week, you get it's an extra week,
so what is it would be three weeks off, So
to me, that's more you need Banks for the playoff run.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
I don't think you need him now.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
If he can go at fifty percent this week, maybe
you just say, look, it's that SEC title on the line.
But I think you earned the side of caution and
say we recruited, well, we got a good old lineman.
Let's give Kelvin an extra couple weeks to get ready. Yeah,
that's that's what I am. Yeah, I would want him
to stay off of it. He's thought of.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I mean, I don't know where Draftnicks have him now,
but one of the best left tackles in the country,
probably a first round type of talent. And if he's out,
I'm really worried about this game on Satura.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
To give you guys a little schedule too, just because
I know it's all confusing.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
I am very confused.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Has explain this to me, Like, the first round of
the playoffs starts two weeks from today, okay, two weeks
from today. So teams that play Conference Championship this weekend,
you know, if you lose, you're playing in two weeks.
The teams that are in the playoff for us that
aren't playing this weekend get basically three weeks off because
you're going to be playing the first round of the playoff,

(06:48):
but you're not playing this week, so you know, so
you want that extra time off to rest up and
get ready.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, okay. And then so we talked a little bit
about this yesterday when you came on with us. As
far as outside of the SEC Championship game, what are
the games that we need we need to be most
watching the most closely. Would that be Oregon and Penn State?
Oregon probably in either way, Yeah's.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Probably Oregon's definitely another way. It feels like Penn State
at this point being at three, Yeah, they're they're in,
no matter what.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
You know.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Texas and Georgia, even though it would be Georgia's third loss,
it sounds like they're in. The winner of the Iowa
State Arizona State game is in. The losers out that
would be the Big twelve champ. And then Clemson SMU
is the one that gets sticky. If if SMU wins,
they're in and Clemson at seventeen is out out right
now anyway. But if Clemson wins the SEC title, they

(07:42):
steal a bid. And then the question is how far
do you drop SMU at eleven. Let's say they lose
on a last second field goal to Clemson, you drop them?
Or do you say, nope, we got Alabama at eleven.
Alabama's in SMU, you fall out.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
It comes to down to the committee wants to prioritize,
and it seems like they just changed their narrative. Whatever
they want to whether it's wins, whether it's strength to schedule,
whether it's in a hypothetical head to head matchup, Alabama
would be easily favored.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Correct, Yeah, I mean, but that's just on like that's
for people who haven't really watched the Spama team. There's
been a roller coaster this year, the ups and downs,
ups and downs. But yeah, brand alone, Yeah would get
them the respect.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
But I have to feel like they would beat They
played ten times on the field now, not knowing a
whole lot about SMU football, if I'm being honest, probably
I would imagine Alabama would win the majority of those
games and would be rightfully favored in that matchup. Yeah,
I think SIMU sneaky good.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I know they haven't, you know, truly played great teams yet,
but I go back to that Pit game a few
weeks ago, Pitt, that's awesome and they beat the hell
out of them.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, so so, Yeah, it'll be interesting the way that plays.
I don't think that they need to I think they
need to get rid of the top four automatic yes
buys for the conference champion.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
But that's that was all the super preserved the stupid
conference commissioners who were like, well, what if the Big
twelve champ is undefeated and the SEC champ has three losses,
we should.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Still be going and they're not going to be ranked
ahead of them nor moved to the front of the line,
right up to the top four seed. Well whatever, I
guess just win your games. Where we're down to arguing
about the top twelve teams, and it feels like, I mean,
we have all these one loss teams. It feels like
in the last few years you haven't had as many
as you had this year. So kind of a wild
year in college football in general. With championship weekend coming up. Okay,

(09:32):
a lot of stuff to get to here. As I mentioned,
it is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross, but it's
without Matt Thomas. He is traveling with the Rockets. They
lost last night to the Golden State Warriors in a
game where they both did not score one hundred points.
I mean, come on, what is this twenty nineteen ninety nine.
This is ridiculous, So we got to talk about that.
Of course, as I mentioned, we got some Alex pregnant

(09:52):
stuff to get to as well, something that happened in
Thursday night last night making me jealous about the Houston Texans.
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He hates Christmas music, except he loves that awful Paul
McCartney want simply having a wonderful Christmas time. That song sucks.

(11:52):
We did a fantasy five I think one year of
we've done best Christmas songs, We've also done worse Christmas songs.
That's definitely the ador near the top of the list
Last Christmas by Wham. A lot of folks on the
Twitter streets saying that's the best Christmas song ever. What's
your favorite? I gotta go with net King Cole Christmas song. Okay,

(12:14):
the classic undeniable, all right, carry I gotta put that
number two because I remember as a young lad seeing
that video. I was a big fan, big fan of
Brian Carey as a young lad. Just say it all right. Anyways,
welcome back to the Mad Thomas Show.

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he said, oh he's tweeting.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
He said there was.

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Speaker 3 (12:44):
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Speaker 1 (12:45):
What is he this time? He's up? He can't work?

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, that's pretty silly. I guess I should be the
last one talking. I was just off for like two
and a half weeks. But I'm back here now. Matt
Thomas is out, Chris Gordy is here, Dan, Matthew's coming
up at noon. You if you'd like to get in
at seven one three two one two five seven ninety
seven one three two one two five seven ninety Gordon,
did you catch Thursday Night Football last night?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I completely forget, Like this week has just been a
whirlwind with everything you know going on. I was covered,
you know, following National Signing Day, transfer portal, all this stuff,
of the college world.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Uh you know talking.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I felt like that as he's alshaire thing took on
a life of its own for seven.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Days national news.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
But yeah, then I'm like last night, I was like,
all right, Rockets come on a little bit later, and
I'm like, oh wait, this is It's Thursday night, and
I had to hurry to my uh fantasy appsolutely makes
my lineup put your starters in because I had Josh Jacobs,
Oh well you're brown and get three touchdowns Detroit kicker,
and so yeah, we needed, uh needed needed to make
sure those were in.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
But that was a hell entertaining game. Yeah, it was
a great game, thirty four to thirty one, which, by
the way, real quick, now that we're like a couple
of years in, how do you feel about the Amazon
Prime Thursday Night theme? I think it still sucks. My
initial reaction was this not good. It's still not good.
It's fine.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Al Michaels this, I hope this is it.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
He sleepwalks through the games.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
He is like he is sleepwalking. I actually have come
around on their pregame crew. I think they've actually got
a fun dynamic now with Sherman and Andrew Whitworth, and Frankispatrick,
Carisa Thompson could take or leave Tony Gonzalez.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
He's whatever I said.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Last night, there was this big thing about Netflix has
put in a bid they make, you know, for their
Netflix Christmas Day games. They don't have like a studio crew.
They don't have a crew at all, like putting in
bids and who's the guy who does the uh like
the checking in on the Sunday ticket.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Games and all that. Oh, Scott Hansen, I think they
put in a bit for him to do. What play
no red zone in one game?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
No, it's gonna be like at a desk analyzing the
games mina chimes.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
They put in a bit on and Drew Brees. I'm like,
what is this? I guess yeah, I don't know. Why
is this a story? Who cares who's at the desk
during Christmas Day games? And how is it even a thing?
That's because Netflix they put in a bid for the games,
and the NFL is like, I'll just give us a
cash and we'll figure it out later. Who's gonna do
the games? NFL? Oh, I don't know. Cut the check
Netflix and we'll figure it out.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Do you know TBSTNT has one or two of the
college football playoff games.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
They don't have college people. They have Charles Barkley on
it and show.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Well that's what I said, Like that'd be freaking awesome
games are they doing? Yeah, Charles bark Georgia terrible? Should
you watch boys this year? I watched boys watch Dook entertaining.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, it's not like they know anything about the NBA
players that they're talking about anyways, except for like the
highlight guys or the big names and the all Stars.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
It's funny too. I'm looking at the dates of the games.
December twenty fifth is a Wednesday. What week is that?
That's the next week?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Uh after?

Speaker 2 (15:51):
What?

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Like?

Speaker 3 (15:52):
What do you mean like we play like a Monday
night game that ends that Texans ten days, I believe
on that show the Wednesday, I is that next week? Yeah, okay,
it's I think they play on a Saturday and then
a Wednesday, and then the next the Sunday before that
or something like that. I think it's a stretch of
like three games in ten days. Here it is. They
play in the fifteenth against the Dolphins, the twenty first

(16:15):
against the Chiefs, and then the twenty fifth against the Ravens. Yeah,
that is. I mean the play in the twenty first
and the twenty fifth.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
You know what they should do. They should just wave
the wife flag. Go we're uh, we're gonna start Davis
Mills in Kansas City. We're gonna save our starters for
the Ravens game because that's at home, and odds we're
gonna win at Kids City probably not likely.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
So let's just wave the wife flag. My favorite is
that how Roger Goodell and the NFL and come out
and talk about player safety and how they're all locked
in on player safety, yet they continue to add more games.
They want to add an eighteenth game, and then they go,
oh Christmas, Netflix cut is how much money?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, let's do this like punish a thease outside three
games that dirty ass hit some try to hurt our players. Yeah,
by the way, you will get two days rest next
week and we're gonna plays Oh my gosh, so it
is a doubleheader on Christmas?

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Okay, yeah, day it's the text. What's the other one?
Noon on Netflix?

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Chief Stealers and then three point thirty Ravens Texas.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Netflix is going to have this figured out because that
Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight was a disaster. It was
buffering for like hours.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Well this is gonna sound silly, but this is what
I heard from somebody in the know covers media stuff.
They said it will be easier because way more people
are going to be together as families.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
So yeah, a lot of people, like I.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Think they thought like solo people were just pulling up
the fight on their phones and all this here, you're
gonna family gatherings, so you know, like twelve people in
one household pulling up a game as opposed to twelve
individuals rather than somebody randomly, morbidly, curiously just like clicking.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
On okay final. I guess I'll check it out and
see what's going on. That's basically what I What.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Do you do if you're a sports bar? Do you
open on Christmas Day? And then do you have to
sign up for Netflix to get the games?

Speaker 6 (17:50):
No?

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Let your staff be at home for Christmas. Please please
close your sports bars and your restaurants, although I mean
not everybody's celebrating Christmas, so maybe keep yours of those. Well,
those gotta stay.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Open to I've heard or Matt has brought up multiple
times that with the the local networks will pick like somebody,
whether it's ABC thirteen or K Percy, want to make
on that you'll pick up the Texans Ravens game, so
you won't necessarily need Netflix to watch that.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Here, we're correct, correct, so at least we'll be okay there.
But I mean the schedule coming up, and if I swear,
if it's buffering the entire time, Netflix shouldn't be allowed
to buy any more live sports and anytime ever. I
don't care how much they bid for it.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
You know, look, I get streaming rights and all. This
YouTube is pretty if you if you know how to
search YouTube live video.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
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C an FBI. Please do not take this audio. Chris
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Speaker 2 (19:05):
Look how far we've come though and blackout restrictions and
all that. Like, I think we're five more years away
from blackouts not even being a thing.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I mean, I was illegal stream and stuff when I
was in Korea and Taiwan because he was blacked out
in my region or whatever.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, so did y'all have that thing here like back
in the day with the oilers if they didn't sell
out a game.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, games were blacked out. And then Mattress Mac.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh, go, we're gonna buy all the tickets up so
people can get the game.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Mattress Mac was buying all the tickets. Shout out to Mac.
By the way, I think he's he's gonna be having
surgery here, so oh yeah, he's gonna be having open
heart surgery. And he also is sponsoring our Saint jude
A Radio FN here.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I love the announce of Katyriach post that the announcement said,
you know Max, Max says that he's going to have
a heart surgery, and you know these thoughts low prices,
need some thoughts of purrs. But also want to remind
you if you need some furniture gallery. It's like man
that is never never stop the marketing.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
It's great, the greatest mark getting man in Houston history.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
But that that man, I mean every time I've been
over there, he's behind the counter.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah. I remember when I was cas off, when I
was a kid, we would go there and he would
be there answering phones. It'd be like it was like
seeing a celebrity, like, oh my god, that's to go
in there. Go Mack take a vacation. Yeah, go go
and Joseph Tom Some people like that, People like that
driven as he is, they just can't It's a it's
a switch they just cannot flip off. All right, quick
break here. Oh The Matt Thomas Show without Matt Thomas
with Chris Gordy, with Meet Ross didn't even get to

(20:26):
what I wanted to get to. As I mentioned, I
was bringing up Thursday on football in the NFL because
something I saw last night it really just makes me
upset about the Houston Texas. We'll get to that on
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get in a lot of stuff till still to get
to On the show, we were talking about the NFL
in the last segment and talking about that crazy schedule

(21:18):
the Texans have coming up eight and five now bye
week this week. Coming at the right time, I mean
very late into the season, I mean almost losing to
the Jacksonville Jaguars, after losing to the Tennessee Titans. You
got a tough stretch coming up against the Dolphins, Chiefs,
and Ravens and all those games coming up in quick succession.
So it feels like a good time to get the

(21:39):
buy in for the Texans. But as I mentioned, we
were watching or I was watching Thursday Night football last night.
It was a good game, the Lions beating the Green
Bay Packers multiple times in that game. It came up.
It was like everybody on Twitter was talking about it.
Dan Campbell being very aggressive on his fourth day. This

(22:00):
is something that's been his for a while. It's something
that we talked about. In the playoff game and the
NFC Championship game against the forty nine Ers, there was
a situation they were down three points in the fourth
quarter of that game, they had a fourth and three,
they went for it, they didn't get it, and I
remember this national firestorm of you gotta kick the field

(22:21):
goal there, you gotta kick the field goal, And they
had a shaky field goal kicker situation at that point
as well, and everybody was crushing Dan Campbell. But now
he does it again last night. Now, first off, they
did it, I think in the second half at some
point a fourth and one on their own thirty one
and didn't get it, and everyone's crushing them. And then
when they get the fourth down at the end of

(22:43):
the game, everyone's talking about how all of Dan Campbell
he needs a wheelbarrow he's got.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's funny to me. When it works out, he's a genius.
When it doesn't work out, he's an idiot. He's taking
too big of risks. But I like it every time.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
And I wish that Demico Ryan's and the Texans would
coach more like that, more aggressively going forward on fourth
downs and just saying we're gonna line up and we're
gonna beat you. We're gonna get this one yard and
we're gonna win this football game. And that's what Dan
Campbell did last night against the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, four or five on fourth downs last night. That
will when it works, your genius when it doesn't. Now,
I had some questions when it was fourth on one
at the Green Bay twenty one uh.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Seconds left. Yes, yes, that was the one at the
end of the game. Actually, so at that point the
model I follow a couple of people. I follow a
lot of NFL math nerds who put out their models.
Their models were saying kick the field goal at that point.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, I mean that was ballsy. If we don't get it,
I don't think Green Bay's gonna go down and get plays.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
They don't. They don't have a time out right, Yeah,
but you're gonna go to overtime? Like, why risk that?
I guess he didn't want to even give them a
scintilla of hope. They do have the best offensive line
in football, by the way. Yeah, and say we're gonna
go and we're gonna get this one yard, We're gonna
punch you in the mouth. I'm I feel like I'm
somebody who, at the end of the day, I'll defer

(24:08):
to whatever the numbers say. The numbers say, go for it,
depending on the models, of course, and there's different circumstances
that can happen. Who knows your left tackle's hurd or
your backup running back is in or what they can
affect those numbers. But I I would rather have somebody
coaching here in Houston, like Dan Campbell than what Demico
Ryans does where he's he's conservative, he plays not to lose.
Joe Mixon even said that publicly a few weeks ago,

(24:30):
you're playing for field goals. I feel like in the
NFL the margins are so thin where every game almost
inevitably is about a one score game. You need to
take advantage of that aggressiveness at any point that you
can't at all. I would love to see it more.
I think it all depends.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Like you know, when they went forward a fourth and
goal at the three, golf throws a touchdown pass to
Tim Patrick. I think the thing is they have enough
confidence in their defense that if they don't get it
and they give Green Bay the ball the three yard line,
that they're gonna feel pretty good about getting stopping it
the ball back there. So I think a lot a
lot of that has to factor into it. But I
also think there's way too many times lately that the

(25:07):
nerds are you know, it's coming in where it's like,
you know.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Just go forward here.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, to the nerds, I'm like Danny McBride on a
righteous gemstone, shut up, nerd stuff you and a locker like, yeah,
O take the points.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
This is the thing, though, Nerds are running every single
sports franchise, major sports franchise in the world. Nerds are
running every baseball team, Nerds are running every basketball team,
and nerds are running most football team. Like then the
nerds at the end of the day, everybody called Darryl
moriy or a nerd for putting up a bunch of
three pointers, guess what the entire league is doing that

(25:42):
as well. Well, Daryl Moray hasn't. We're having Joel is
hurt again. He's having some issues over there in Philadelphia.
But I mean, he revolutionized the game. You could say
he didn't win a championship and all that, but everybody
copied what Darryl Mory is doing. Uianized the league. Same
thing with moneyball and Billy Bean, and they didn't win

(26:04):
a championship either, because teams took moneyball and they spent
money and they did it better than he could. Because
of the financial resources being limited there in Oakland. So
now we're seeing in the NFL as well. It's a
little bit more latent relatives of those other two sports,
but the fourth down going for it stuff is definitely
more prevalent than it was even five years and especially

(26:26):
ten plus years ago.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Who was the guy Paul de Podesta the analytics sky
from him will be.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
He wasn't Paul de Podessa, like the lieutenant of Billy
Bean and then he went out and did his own thing.
But the Cleveland Browns hired him because basically the Jonah
Hill in the Moneyball movie.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
But remember the Browns hired him in twenty sixteen. Yeah,
and the problem is he was one of the people
who helped facilitate that Deshaun Watson trade.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Well, yeah, was he in on that? Well, I don't
know what the numbers said Undershawn Watson, but they probably
shouldn't have done that. Was he even there then? Yeah? Yeah,
that doesn't mean that nerds don't make mistakes, of course,
But I would say to me, I would like, now,
maybe you don't want to see somebody as helter skelter
and as crazy and all in as Dan Campbell here
in Houston. Maybe some of y'all don't. I would love it,

(27:12):
but I want to see more of that. I want
to see more aggressive coaching. That's my biggest criticism. I
like Demiko Ryans as a coach, leader of men, defensive
play caller. He checks so many of the boxes. My
biggest issue with him is not being aggressive enough on
fourth down and on those times in the moment in
those games last night. Sure, it's not gonna work out

(27:33):
every time, and you're gonna have some egg on your
face when it doesn't. And that's when you know the
old fogies are gonna get upset. You know what that is.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
That's the old school Gary Kopiak way of thinking that Demiko.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Learned under Yeah, play not to lose.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
And then you've got Kay Campbell, who coached under Sean Payton,
who was balls to the wall, let's go for it
and let's kick an onside kick. So a little bit
different coaching philosophies. Yeah, I'm with you. I think I
think we're gonna start to get to a point in
the Demiko or we say, dude, if you take the
gable and it doesn't work, I'd rather that than the
playing safe playing on your heels and then suddenly you

(28:07):
know you're losing games that way.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah, it's trust the process. It doesn't it doesn't boil
down as simple as blackjack because there's more factors when
blackjack is just numbers. But if the dealer's showing twenty
and you got sixteen, you need to hit. Yeah, you're
gonna bust a lot, but it's gonna help you in
the long term, in the long run, and that's what
you need to do. In the NFL. I think sometimes
these coaches are too often scared for their jobs and

(28:34):
their lives to roll the dice. But I think at
the end of the day, it's gonna help you in
the long term. Especially when you're the Texans. You have
a really good running game with Joe Mixon. Of course,
the passing stuff has been a little bit shaky with
with CJ. Stroud, but the offensive line who's been playing better.
But if you can go out there and say I'm
gonna get one yard and this is gonna gonna win
me more games, I think they need to do it
way more often than they do.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
How about the Lions, What if they want eleven in
a row, nows that's just insane. That's I mean, that
is they They have got something special going. The Lions,
the freaking lowly Lions who haven't won jack.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
They're now a football power. They have not been They
had not been to an NFC championship game before last year,
but since like what nineteen ninety one or whatever it was,
they haven't ever been to a super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
I wish we could just I mean, look, you want
everybody to have their chance. I want the Texas to
have success. But like if I told you right now
the super Bowl will be Lions Chiefs, would you sign
up for that?

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Lions chief sounds amazing? I mean they got to be
the heavy fair. Who else? Who's the second best team
in the NFC? The Eagles have been pretty good lately.
I guess it's them in the So you would go
with those two?

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, I'll take a Texans line super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Oh close with them? Last time I see you and Orleans, Baby,
we'll go down there. That sounds like fun to me.
Aziz al Shaer will be back by that point, well,
hopefully as long as he doesn't ear hole another quarterback
and send their skull six inches into the dirt.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
What do you think the people who are like they were,
like Trevor Lawrence out for the he should be out
for the year two.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
That's ridiculous. Ie for an eye? No, yeah, hey, and
I for an eye leaves everyone blind. Chris Cordy something
to think about. All right, We're gonna take a quick
break here on the Mad Tomas Show with Ross without
Matt Thomas. Chris Cordy is here hanging out till noon.
We'll have Dan Matthews. Then I'm with you basically for
the duration until two o'clock. Connor mc govern here as

(30:23):
well at seven one three two one two five seven
ninety Do you want Demico Ryans to be more aggressive?
Is Dan Campbell too aggressive for your taste? The Fourth
Down Revolution is here in the NFL. Dan Campbell is
in the helm. How do you feel about it? Seven
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Speaker 9 (32:01):
Matt Thomas now on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
This is Christmas to me?

Speaker 11 (32:08):
Ti how.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Being sung by this and the Temptations Silent Night, I
guess those jams the uh.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
To me, it's I need it to be cold for
at least a full week here before I can get
into Christmas mode.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Like I see the lights up everywhere. It's under eighty
five in Houston. It's cold.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, it's I mean it was it's it's been like
morning's been chilly, but it's not cold.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I need cold to get into full Christmas mode. Well,
you might be waiting for a while. You might be
waiting for I don't know, several years, who knows. Oh,
tomorrow is a high of fifty four. That's good. You
got a cold front coming interwell, but then Monday we're
back to seventy seven. Seventy seven is pleasant. Like I said,
you're under eighty five. That's cold in Houston, Texas.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
I mean, the whole global warming thing. It's look more,
summer hasn't been that bad here. It's been not. I mean,
like I don't like hot, but like, all right, sixty
seventies every day?

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah, but did we set a record for days over
ninety five in September. Yeah, then the year. Then last
year we set a record for days over one hundred
and July. Next summer probably won't before I'm tired of
these records.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Can we stop setting records for heat in the last
several years? Oh my god, you don't want the opposite.
You don't want those hard freezes. Uh wow, it's just
more extreme weather's coming and coming.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
It's it's whatever. We don't need to argue about why
or what happening. It is happening. So looking forward to
did you stopped eating beef for us? I'm not going
to stop eating delicious beef. What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Oh? Can I give you a hot take? This is
this is very you're very Matt Thomas e Oh, here
we go. Uh, what's the ozone Layer? No?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
What's the steak company? Omaha Steaks? Oh? Actually pretty good.
Are they gonna sponsor us anytime soon? Their sponsor on
lockdown sees? But okay, yeah they suck. But people thought
they were terrible. People say that, I've they're not bad.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Like for the price, it's better than would you get
at the local grocery.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Not in my experience. Now, this was years ago. Maybe
you didn't seizon them years ago. And I think it
actually was on a radio promo. Now, if I a
beef is good, you just got to put salt and
pepper on. It's not about seizing it, right. If you
got to put a bunch of junk on it, that
means the beef isn't good. Okay, Number one, we'll give
you a little prepackaged whatever. Now this was years and
years ago. I bought a package of Omaha steaks. It

(34:38):
was for my brother for like Christmas or something like that.
And I think it was a radio promo or i'd
heard the promo code or something like that. It might
even been like Jim Rome back in the day. And
then we got the six and we're like, these are terrible.
But that was also like ten plus years ago. I mean,
maybe they've gotten a better stock of beef by mail.
My question is what are your expectations, And they're very low,
And they were lower than that when I said, I

(34:59):
said never again.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
If anybody out there wants to put me on their
Christmas list, I will take a box of Amaha steaks.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
I think they're delicious. Send all of your beef to
care of Chris Gordy at twelve thirty three.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
What we're not a post Oak, We're West Loop South. Yeah,
Nolan Ryan meat is actually pretty good too.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Nolan Ryan's only antwerll beef steaks, delicious steaks, hot dogs.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
They're a hot dogs two their dollars on Tuesdays and
you can get them.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Here at minute may part. Okay, I'll take your word
for it. I normally, I mean, I just used the
butcher at the local grocery store. I'll just leave it
at that, and usually I'm not disappointed. It's better than
Omaha steaks, which are vacuum packed and terrible in my experience.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
I saw one at the grocery the other day. They
had it was a frozen prime rib. It was forty
nine ninety nine. I'm like, and it looked like it
had been sitting there all day. I'm like, I'm not
paying that.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
How many pounds was it? I don't know. It had
to be a couple because it was. It was at
least five pounds. No, that's a good deal. Yeah, that
big prime rib very underrated. It's very easy to do
at home. You just just slather it down in salt
and pepper. Maybe you put a little rosemary and time
on if you want it, and then you do it
in the oven. It is done. It's super It's way
easier than like a turkey.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Oh, as I said, the tough part of doing steaks
on the grill is like it takes no time. So
it's like you've all the work and the fire up
the grill and getting a gut like.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Cast iron pan. Yeah, cast iron pan, you're gonna get
the perfect crust. Don't do it on the grill. Don't
even worry about that, certainly, not if you're doing charcoal.
If you can fire up some propane, and that's okay.
This is Ross's steaks tips. Okay, buy a good cut
of meat. Just put salt and pepper on it, maybe
a little garlic butter if you'd like, if you really
want to jazz it up, but you don't have to
put all the aromatics and people putting I'm gonna put rosemary,

(36:37):
and i'm gonna put time, and i'm gonna put sage
and like no, then your steak tastes like stage. Your
steak should taste like beef. Just put salt and pepper,
a little garlic butter if you'd like and that's it
on Max doing the cast iron about two minutes aside,
press it into the grill to get a good crust
on it, and you're good. Keep it simple, baby, Yeah, no,
I'm hungry now, I'm very hungry. Okay. What were we

(36:59):
supposed to talk about this? We had planned? Oh, I
think we were gonna talk about the Rockets. Well, the
Rockets stopped losing to the Golden State Warriors fifteen in
a row. It sucks. Has a franchise in Houston ever
been more owned by the Rockets and the Warriors. And
I know back in the day, like the Sonics owned
the Rockets in like the early nineteen nineties. I'm trying
to think like that, the Texans owned by the Patriots

(37:21):
for a while there, and the Colts.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
As soon as I put that game on last night,
I see the is it oracle? What's their stupid arena chase?
As soon as an arena, it's chase the logo on
the court, and I see the Warriors logo and I
see the Rockets red with their white jersey.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
I just got PTSDNA lose. This reminds me of.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
The stupid James Harden, Dwight Howard games where we had
to play these dwebs in the postseason.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Every year. It felt like either in the like.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
The first year Rockets get it is an eight seed,
you know, or you know it was one of those
years they had to play them under the one, and
then the years of the Rockets were good.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
We see him in the later rounds. But it was
just like, it.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Sucks that the James Hardens Houston Rockets error coincided with
the Warriors dominant.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, they would want to. The Rockets would have had
a championship, maybe not two. If not two, they would
have won in twenty eight team if if Chris Paul's
damn string didn't pop, There's no doubt in my mind. Okay,
time for a quick break here. We went too long.
I did want to talk about that into the Rockets.
If you can think of a Houston franchise that has
been more owned as the Rockets have been by the Warriors,

(38:25):
I would like to hear it. We also have to
talk about the Rockets. We barely got into it. Anything
you want to get to seven one three, two, one
two five, seven ninety and when we come back top
of this hour, Brian mctagger joined the a team. We're
gonna play you a little bit of that. The latest
on Alex Bregman and the possibility of him signing back
with the Houston Astros. That is next here on The

(38:45):
Matt Thomas Show with Ross.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Lunchtimers. This is The Matt Thomas Show.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Hour number two of The Matt Thomas Show with Ross.
Without Matt Thomas. He is a little child, He's a
little sweepee as the Rockets played the Golden State last
night and now are on to La. So no Matt
Thomas today, no Matt Thomas Monday, but you have me
or Ross. You also have Chris Gordy hanging out. Dan

(39:15):
Matthews will be along the way in the next hour
as well. Connor McGovern is here for the duration. Sorry, Connor,
that's what you gotta do. Connor, we haven't heard from
him today. Are okay doing well? All right? That's good.
Who's gonna win the SEC championship game this.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Week in Connor, Texas. That's what I'm talking about. That's
what I want to hear. I'm scared, I'm nervous, but
we'll see what happens. Well, even if they lose, they
are in the playoff.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
But another week off and then give Kelvin Banks some
time to rest. If he does, in fact play on Saturday,
I'd be feeling a lot better about the chances in
the playoffs. You would only have to win three games
to win the national title rather than winning four.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Here's a fun topic coming into the season. Who would
you have said was the best coach in college football?

Speaker 9 (39:58):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Kirby Smart? Yeah? So if Sark wins this, did we start.

Speaker 12 (40:03):
To pivot the sun?

Speaker 8 (40:05):
Now?

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Three losses first, Georgia. Hey, somebody, a certain somebody to
my left was talking about Sark being out in a
couple of years. I said that. I said, as long
as Sark can recruit or at least the boosters are
coning up thing, he's gonna be fine. Because his play calling.
I really like his play calling and his offense. But
those first two years were a little sketchy. Yeah they were,
but they lost a lot of one score games. I

(40:29):
was steady on the course. I liked Sark. I didn't
love Sark. I liked him at his offensive mine, and
I said, as long as they get good players, he's
gonna be good. He's gonna be fine, Because I mean,
you know, when he was calling the place for Alabama,
who has first round talents at all skill positions and
off along the offensive line, then you're gonna be fine.
He can scheme plays and so they have a lot
of talent now on the offense. Unfortunately, the quarterback isn't

(40:51):
as good as I would like, but that's a different
story for a different time. But they're the number two
team in the country. They've lost one game and they
have the chance to avenge that loss this weekend. I
think Sarks pretty dunk good ball coach. I don't always
like his timeout decisions and his fourth down decisions, but
as far as scheming plays and calling plays, I feel
pretty good about him personally as a Longhorn fan. All Right,

(41:12):
we got a lot of stuff to get to here
with Chris Gordy, and we will be getting to some
college football stuff coming up with him in about thirty
minutes more macro big picture of college football stuff. But
also wanted to get in some of the talk about, well,
you know what, man, you just fit for everything, Gordy
LSU's own Alex Bregman, what is going to happen with him?

(41:35):
Brian McTaggert speaking yesterday with the A team and if
you want to get in on any of this. By
the way, phone lines are open at seven to one
three two one two five seven ninety seven to one
three two one two five seven ninety Let's play a
little bit of this, starting off with Brian McTaggert talking
about the Astros. What's going on with Alex Bregman. It
feels like it's going to be the domino will fall

(41:56):
after the Soto domino falls, which should be within the
next week. McTaggart saying, the Astros in weight and see
mode for Bregmant.

Speaker 13 (42:04):
Yeah, I think the Astros have sort of been waiting
see mode. But realistically, I mean, I think most people
in the organization think they're they're just not going to
be able to get to a point in years or
money that they'll be able to resign him. And I
think they're, you know, they're gonna wait to see what
shakes out over the next week. We get to Dallas,
you know, when Soto signs, and it seems like that

(42:26):
could come here sooner than later. I think the market
will shake for you a little bit. And you know,
Bregman's the next big name on the market as far
as position players.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
But I still think the money in the years are
are going to be too much.

Speaker 13 (42:37):
I mean, Crane a couple of weeks ago, you know,
reiterated his stance, and you know it's the stance has
work for him where he doesn't give out these massive
long term ten, eight, nine year deals for hundreds of million.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
You know, he's never done it, and they just continue
to win.

Speaker 13 (42:52):
So you know, he'd rather somebody else pay Alex pregnant
when he's twenty eight or thirty eight, thirty nine years old.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
So I think in the next week will no longer more.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
So.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Again, not a whole lot of new information there, as
you know, Chris Gordy the article with McTaggart, I think
that he put out yesterday and then also was floated
by by Bob Nightingale. Six years, one hundred and fifty
six million. I think that is the latest as far
as numbers we're seeing with Alex Bregman and the Houston Astros.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I think the thing, the weird thing was, it was
like a week and a half ago John Hayman wrote
a piece on a lot of different goings on in
MLB and all this, and you know, hey, he puts
like these little nuggets in and one of the nuggets
was like the Astros would like to have Bregman back
on a six year, one fifty six or something like.

(43:44):
That was his wording. And it was weird wording because
it's like, if you know for a fact that that's
what they've offered, then report that's what they've offered.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
But he didn't do that.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
He just guys, eh, you know, and discussions they'd like
to have him back somewhere in this vicinity. Well, then yesterday,
Brian mctiger says, according to a confirmed with an MLB source,
the Astros have offered officially offered Alex Bregman six year
deal worth one hundred and fifty six million. So that
to me is significant because okay, this is actual confirmation,
Like there's one thing to be calling around. Yeah you know, hey,

(44:14):
boris what do you think maybe like six years? You know,
like to say, okay, this is an official offer that
they've put in front of him, that's.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Legit granted twenty six million a year.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
I think, I mean, if he would sign that, that's
a great deal for the Astros.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
I just think it's a great deal for Bregman.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I think he can get more, but get that six
year guaranteed to stay here in Houston, where you got
your homes paid, where everything's paid. You know, you don't
have to pay moving calls to go buy a new
house in a new city. And oh, by the way,
taxes you would have to pay in the state of California, Massachusetts,
all these other places. It's kind of an easy I think.
I think this is a good starting point. I think

(44:50):
if the Astros are willing to go a little bit
more here, I think they can get this done. But
they got to go a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Give six millions.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
What if they want won seventy five, would six for
one to seventy five get it done?

Speaker 3 (45:06):
I don't know if it would get it done apparently.
I mean the story is being floated that he wants
close to two hundred million dollars totally. I think, you know,
should it be seven years or possibly?

Speaker 2 (45:16):
He's got to be realistic with where he is. I mean,
he's thirty, He's going to turn thirty one next season.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Matt Chapman is the deal we always point back to
that was six years, one hundred and fifty one million dollars.
So the Astro is only going five million dollars more
than the Matt Chapman deal, like less than a million
dollars more per year. Yeah, you got That's a non
starter to me. I don't think guess Scott Boris and
no r Alex Preegman are going to accept that he
is only that much better than Matt Chapman. Unfortunately, that's

(45:45):
where the market was set with the Giants and signing
to Matt Chapman to that deal a few months ago.
But that's where we are right now. That's basically the
starting point. The Astro is only going slightly above that start.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
And the problem you get into here is and I'll
talk without with Adam Wexler about this yesterday, is that
guys like Scott Boris, they don't want to negotiate. They
get it ingrained in their mind that I want to
get my client this figure.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
So if they've already decided Reggie is getting two hundred
and that's it, you can't what can't do? I mean,
there's no negotiation there, it's literally this is the number.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Get to that number. You basically need the entire market
to say no thanks for an extended amount of time.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
And that's what happened last offseason with his clients like Snell,
and look, they waited all we got middle of spring
training and those guys still hadn't signed.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Yet, and it was a disaster to start and Blake
Snell said it was a mistake to miss out on
spring training or was that Jordan Montgomery was at both.
I can't remember, so I wonder if that is going
to happen with that precedent set. But it feels like
to me, if we were doing gut feelings. This is
a Friday on the Mount Thomas Show, not Tuesday, But
if we were doing gut feelings, I would say within

(46:55):
a week of Soto signing, Alex Bregman would be signed,
because I think somebody is going to be scrambling. Somebody
is not going to want to be the bride'smaid. Some
one team that misses out and swings and misses on
SODO is going to pivot to the next thing, and
that's going to be Alex Bregman, Who's willing to play
second base if you already have a third basement locked
up for a long time, and that really opens his

(47:16):
market up. Now second basement doesn't have the same value
as a third basement. So it's tougher to me to
pay two hundred million dollars to a second basement, then
a third basement. But it feels like somebody is going
to be scrambling after Soto, and then that's when Bregman
is going to get snatched up by somebody willing to
overpay a little bit.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah, I think I think all that's going to go
down at Winter Beatings next week.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Yeah, we'll see. So if the Astros swing and miss
on Bregman, which feels like the most likeliest outcome to me,
what is the possibility after that? Here's what Brian mctager
had to say.

Speaker 13 (47:48):
Yeah, if they don't sign him, I mean, maybe they
go and get Christian Walker for a couple of years,
who's probably the best free agent first basement on the market,
three time Gold Glove winneran he would fit very nicely,
and then maybe at third base.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Kind of patch it together a little bit. You know.

Speaker 13 (48:02):
One name I've mentioned a few times is Jorge Polanco,
who was with the Mariners last year.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Didn't have a great year.

Speaker 13 (48:10):
It's coming off surgery, but you know, he's a guy
that maybe you could get eight nine million, you know,
hope he has a rebound year and then maybe you know,
at first base, like I said, you know, make a
make a bigger impact deal. Maybe you know, do you
look into acquiring someone like you know, Goldschmid, who's thirty
six and on the decline, but maybe you can get
a good year or two out of him, you know,

(48:30):
being back in his hometown. So there's a lot of
ways they can go here. But you know, the corner
infield is their biggest needs, their biggest need.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
However, they want.

Speaker 13 (48:39):
To you know, piece it together, but they can't wait
forever until bregmant. If this is going to drag out
until January, then I think we'll see them start to
make moves to sort of move on. But once Soto
makes his decision, I think things will move pretty quickly,
not only for Bregman, but I think for the Astros.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
There you go. That's interesting to me is that, you know,
kind of we were talking about money Ball and how
they talk about, you know, we don't have to replace
Jason Giambi the player. We have to replace him in aggregate.
So would it be some Dozenzo would come whatever, and
then a Christian Walker or somebody you improve at first
base and then that way you don't have to improve
as much to offset it at third.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Base or hey, Poloko coming off the worst season of
his career one hundred and eighteen games in Seattle last year,
Betted too a career worst two thirteen. His next worst
season was three years ago when he beat at two
thirty five bet At two thirteen with a career i
one and thirty seven strikeouts, forty five runs batted in,

(49:37):
sixteen home runs.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
I mean, that's you're signing him, you might.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
As well platoon him with Shay Whitcombe and you know
one of the other young guys you got, Zach Dezenzo.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Yeah, because that ain't that ain't get it done. So
maybe they improve at first base and then at third
base you offset a little bit because first base was
pretty much a disaster all year long for them last year. Here, okay,
time for a quick break here on the Matt Thomas
Show with ross those of you and hold Manuel, We
see you. We will get to you in the next segment.
I promise. We're also talking about Alex pregnant, We're talking
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Speaker 9 (51:31):
Matt Thomas now on Sports Talk seven ninety breaking news.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Out of the college recruiting world. Five star defensive tackle
from the state of Georgia, Justice Terry Chris Gordy has
committed to the Texas Longhorns. Six foot five, two hundred
and seventy five pounds from Manchester, Georgia, choosing the long

(51:59):
Horns over Georgia, Auburn, and Alabama. He had previously committed
to both Georgia and USC Like, can we stop with
these pre commitments? Can we just have signing Day? Like
people commit and then they flip like every six weeks.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Well, it's the money being thrown around, that's true. This
is from somebody who covers Georgia said, George has been
recruiting Terry since the eighth grade. Wow, Texas just started
talking to him two months ago, and I l is
king over relationships in college football recruiting. It is there
are kids who made decisions this week based on the
bag alone and I don't. I don't hate on them

(52:35):
for that. I mean, this is the world we live in.
Texas is faunding the money right now. A and M
did it two years ago. It did not pay all
for them. That recruiting class crumbled correct big.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
All the top guys went to the portal or weren't
on it or not even starting on the team.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
And that was just a year removed from they just
had what they went nine and one in that COVID year. Remember,
like Eric A and M was like, oh, they have arrived.
Jimbo's turning this thing around. Yes, and it came crashing down.
Texas seems to be in a better spot right now.
A sark, but I just it's a dangerous territory in
that you're paying a bunch of seventeen year olds.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
I've seen some of the offers.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Some of these kids are getting two million dollars a
year to come and sign with Texas. The problem becomes
ext you ross, if that kid doesn't play immediately, he's
just gonna turnund enter the portal right after and go
somewhere else. The other side of it, too, is some
of these kids are gonna be buss Now what happens
when you're paying this much money and the kid's a bust.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
That's the interesting thing to me, and it's something we've
talked about a lot with uh Well on this show,
and well every show is is when do you get
a donor fatigue? Like you mentioned the A and M
had that huge pop in twenty twenty two, the boosters
got all excited about Jimbo and then there's been a
backing off from there. So how long can you keep
this up? How many more millions are these boosters going

(53:51):
to be consistently pumping out? And Phil Knight we'll talk
about this actually more in the next segment, But Phil
Knight is pumping up all this unlimited money and you
have these other boosters and these other like what was
it the CEO of Oracle or where was it getting
involved in Michigan? He literally bought Bruce. If that quarterback
Bryce Underwood, If he doesn't work out and he turns
out terrible, he transfers in a year, you're gonna feel burned.

(54:12):
And so over the years, I wonder if we're gonna
have the same amount spent in ten years than we
are now. Because my prediction was that the eventually the
spending would let up at some point, and it has
in certain programs like the guy that was spending all
that money in Miami, he's not doing it anymore, like
we mentioned with A and M. But it keeps up

(54:33):
popping up in other places like now with Texas, as
you mentioned with Oregon and Phil Knight with Michigan. So well,
it's popping up other places.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I let'l tell you one of the repercussions whether your
voting for him or not, I don't care, but one
of the repercussions if Ted Cruz getting in there. He's
been one of the biggest advocates for pushing there needs
to be a cap on this stuff. Greg Sanki had
told me to my face at SEC media Days, there
needs to be some government legislation here. I think we're
going to see in the next year there's gonna be
some legis slation pass putting a cap on. Hey, you

(55:03):
can't just billionaires, can't just come in and buy buy
up players, because there's the other part of it too.
And I hate to be old man here, but like
we have to think of the kid's best interest too.
Maybe Justice Terry is going to be a future first
round pick, no matter where.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
He goes to school.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Also, you could consider maybe the development of Georgia might
be better than I'm just saying, like, maybe a Georgia's
a top ten pick in the future, maybe a Texas.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
He doesn't round pick deal Texas.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I'm just saying, where a kid goes, is that the
best place for him to develop and get to the
perse Some kids are just so good it doesn't matter
where they go, but those are few and far between.
Some kids need that development. Some kids Jane Daniels at
Arizona State maybe unbecome this Jane Daniels if he doesn't
go spend those two years at l I feel like
number two overall pick.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Yeah, Okay, well we'll see and we'll get into that
a little bit more in the In the next seven
We've got a lot of college football stuff to get to.
You want to get in. You can't say won three two, one, two, five,
seven ninety the phone number. But Manuel has been waiting patiently,
so we're going to him next in Riverside, California. What's up? Manuel? Hey?

Speaker 8 (56:10):
Ross and Chris real quick, Chris, you're a genius with
your your songs. Those parody songs are amazing, but he's
still yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
He's still amazing.

Speaker 8 (56:23):
All right, Well, real quick, because we were talking about
college ball, I'm gonna jump in there real quick and
stand up for my boys and my shoe Sun Devils
wearing the Big twelve championship. Nobody saw that coming. Talking
about the portal. We got sixty one transfers since last season.
And to me, the coach of the year is Ken Gillingham.
That guy's been amazing. He went out, He went out
and found Camba uh scott Aboo in Sacramento State when

(56:47):
nobody knew the heck coup he was. And that kid
is just brutal. He just don't give up. He's a fighter.
But I just want to get some love out forks
up for my boys at a su But really wanted
to talk about the Rockets. I'm really really disappointed, especially
coming off of that that win and against the Thunderwells,
of which an awesome win. But I mean, they gotta
stop losing to bad teams. They lost to the Kings

(57:09):
a couple days ago before when they should have beat
the Kings. There are better teams than the Kings, and
without Stay, without Curry and without dream on and you
lose to the Warriors. I don't care if you're in
Golden State. I mean this, hit your open shots. They're
playing good defense. Just hit open shots and layups. They
would have won the game. It's just got to finish

(57:30):
and stop just having these bad shooting nights. You know,
I know they're young and sometimes it goes up and
down in the NBA is a long season, but you know,
you just got to do the simple things to get
the wins. To rack up the w's. At the end
of the year, you want to go to the big
one to play with the big boys and really make
some noise in the playoffs. That's all I got, guys.

(57:50):
But thanks for listening to me and go Rockets and
forks up pra issue.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
All right, thanks a lot, Manel. Yeah, last night. Look,
the defense is is going to be there normally on
a night in, night out basis for the Rockets Golden
State Warriors. You hold them in ninety nine points. There's
no Steph Curry, there's no Draymond Green. You should you
should win that game.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
But we should stop with that narrative because they're thirteen
and eight, they're they'd be the fifth seed. If the
if the yeah, sorry Rockets fifteen eight, if if the
playoffs are today, the wars would be the fifth seed.
Like they're a pretty damn good team, Like because I've
heard other teams saying that too, like we lost the
Warriors and they don't have this guy and that guy.
They're just a really they're a good team. I mean,
they just are right now. They've been playing good basketball,

(58:31):
so you know, credit guys like Kuminga and Andrew Wiggins
playing above their head and uh, maybe not.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Supposed to be like unstoppable last year. H that's ridiculous.
Buddy Heal didn't do jack. Like if I'd have told you,
Buddy Heel goes one for eight, he only has five points.
Steph Curry and Draymond Green are out. You're like, okay,
how much of the Rockets win by? But I mean,
just just a horrible shooting night. And really that's just
kind of gonna be who they are. They're not gonna
shoot twenty six percent from three every night. But the

(58:59):
Rockets are just not a very good shooting team. They're
gonna have to get to the basketball, They're gonna have
to get to the free throw line. This league is tough.
It takes its toll. You should win that game, though,
you should. They were favored in I think by three
and a half or whatever. And Okay, Vegas doesn't mean everything,
of course, it doesn't mean anything at the end of
the day on the floor, but if they could have
knocked down a couple of more shots, we're talking about

(59:19):
them winning that game. And it does hurt because the
Western Conference is so tightly packed. You're the two seed
right now, two and a half back from the Thunder.
Two and a half back from you is the nine
seeded Lakers. Three and a half back from you is
the eleven seeded Spurs. Like the the West is insane. Yeah,
you're again probably if you've heard that.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Before, you're like four or five games from being completely
out of the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Yes, right now, so no, I mean for three and
a half.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Yeah, first time all season you have lost back to
back games. You gotta go play at the Clippers Sunday night.
That's not gonna be easy. Like, you gotta find a
way to win that one, and then it's for all
the marbles next Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
The NBA for all the NBA Com.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Tip an eight thirty tip here Houston next Wednesday night,
and then if they win that one lose that one,
we'll figure out what happens from there with their next game.
But yeah, you want to stop the bleeding, and you're
gonna you're gonna have to find a way to win
on Sunday night.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Yeah. So just disappointing last night. But the three point
shooting that it wasn't there. Jalen Green just woefully inconsistent. Again.
He had three straight games where he's averaging like twenty
six points per game, but the up and down nature
of that, I'm just I'm disappointed. The way that he
started the season, it looked like he was ready to
make that leap, but then the three point shooting has

(01:00:35):
gone down significantly. He was shooting forty forty one percent
from three at one point, now down to thirty two
point four percent. Those hot numbers from the start of
the season back to basically where we expected from him
in his career. So not great for the Rockets. They
need to shoot better, but the defense still they can
hang their hat on that. One of the better defensive
teams in basketball. Came in the last night's game second

(01:00:58):
in defensive rating. Not sure where they are now, but
you held the team to ninety nine points. I'm pretty
sure things didn't change too much there. But the Rockets
disappointing loss to the Golden State Warriors after a bad
loss to the Sacramento Kings a couple of nights before
now their three game West Coast swing ends against the
Clippers on Sunday, late night start eight o'clock here on
Sports Talk seven to ninety. Okay, quick break here on

(01:01:20):
the Matt Thomas Show with Ross without Matt Thomas, Chris
Gordy is here. We were talking a little bit about
the nil money that is flying around college football. Couple
of more stories coming out about even more money flooding
into college football. Where does it stop? We'll talk about
that next here on the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. Hey, it's.

Speaker 10 (01:01:48):
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Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Who gets the biggest bump in their royalty checks Christmas time?
I gotta feel like Michael Bublaze on the short list.
Like people, Mariah Carey has other hits. I mean, Boublay
has other hits too, but he's no Mariah Carey, so
she's probably already always got a steady income from her
residuals and royalties, but like as far as percentage jump,

(01:02:21):
I gotta feel like Michael Boublay has got to be
on the short list of guys who get the biggest
bump come Christmas time. I mean this whole album banger.
Rian Carrey just has that one popular song that's true.
Who gets been Crosby's royalties his kids?

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Yeah, Stephanie Crosby great granddaughter. I just made that up
being uh a Sidney Crosby. We still haven't done away
with the problematic. Maybe it's cold outside, right Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
I thought I thought the people there was backlash on that,
but then there was a rebacklash, so I think we're
in the clear.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
I don't know, remember, uh who's the guy? Uh John Legend.
Last last Christmas here Kelly Clarkson, they did the Virginia. Yeah,
it was so late.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Not without your consent.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
It really was like I was like, what is this, baby,
it's cold outside.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
I respect your value. I respect baby, I respect your consent.
Are you too drunk? I'm just gonna respectfully and I
will wear profhylactics if you ask. I think that's how
it went something like that. But booblet has got to
have a big jump. Yeah, bing Crosby, I mean Sinatra.
People probably listening to him throughout the year. Nat King Cole,

(01:03:39):
I'm going bouble biggest bump. You can beat that. Tweet
me at sports Harvy. I've seen booble twice in concerts.
Really good show? Oh you have? Did you wear a tux?
Seems like a really classy affair. You wear like a
button up shirt. I mean, I'm not hating on the
buoble game. Has he had hits other than Christmas? Yes? Yes,
there's the coming Home song or whatever? What is it

(01:04:01):
called I'm Home or I'm on the way home or
just called home?

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Okay, like like the Dawtry song.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
I'm putting to Michael Spicy Margarita. I'm not familiar with
that one. I was going with Jason Drulo feeling Good. Yeah,
but that's a cover too. Does he have anything original?
Beautiful Day? Uh? Play that? Do you have to? We
don't have to do that. We're not doing a booble
Oh but a good morning or something? Is that one?

(01:04:31):
I don't know. Don't worry about it all right, anyways,
Welcome back to the Matt Thomas show with Ross without
Matt Thomas. He is out sweeping because he tired. He's
sweeping in uh Los Angeles. He is out today. He'll
be out on Monday as well, with the Rockets traveling
back to Houston. So Chris Gordy in with me until
the top o the hour. We also have Dan Matthews

(01:04:52):
coming up here. What is it? This sounds vaguely familiar.
Crank this, yeah, okay, just like the end of a
nineteen nineties rom com.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
You jammed this. This is where the credits are rolling.
I guess it was you all along.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Yeah, You're right in front of me this whole time.
I can't believe it. And then they kiss at the
wedding and then this rolls and rolls the credits perfect.
All right, thank you for that, gott of McGovern. All right,
so we've been talking about college football. We've been talking
about the nil money. Where does this stop? I think
do individual programs tap out? Like we mentioned the A

(01:05:31):
and M nil money is not being spent like it
was a couple of years ago. You got the Jimbo
Fisher albatross of a contract being paid for. You had
that guy that was paying the Miami athletes to go
to speak for his jam or whatever he tapped out
as well. But then it's popping up other places. Money
in nil spending obviously way up at Texas, the Longhorns
and the success they're having the SEC.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
I think we're seeing a shift to some schools. Ole
Miss and A and m went and spent in the
portal last year, and they finished with the number one
and number two best portal class. And you can make
a case that that was the correct way to go
because Flora ol Miss still lost three games and Aggie
still lost four games. But the Aggies were supposed to
be way worse this year. They were better because of
the portal hits. You know, Nick Gorton being the big

(01:06:14):
one that came in for Purdue. Florida had Prince Leamon
miel In, a lot of big time players or old
Miss rather and look at what they did. Look at
Miami was the investment in cam Ward worth it. I mean,
looks like they're going to miss the playoff, but cam
Ward made Miami Hella more interesting this year. Their defense
couldn't get stops. But this is where I think you

(01:06:35):
get into it and go. I think if I'm if
I'm a rich college donor, I would rather put my
investment in a proven college player to come to my
school knowing it's probably only going to be for a year.
I think that's where you start to get your mindset
with these kids. Because news flast the seventeen year olds
that signed with Texas and Georgia and everybody, I guarantee

(01:06:56):
at least ten of them are going to be hitting
the portal next offseason.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
That's the thing though, Yeah, I guess it would. It's
it's kind of a a You have to assess the
risk and you also have to assess the return on
investment to where you know, if if let's say a
freshman does come in like a five star freshman and
they're immediately impact player, and they're going to be there
for a couple of years and they're going to eventually
be an NFL prospect. If you if you don't invest

(01:07:21):
in nil money that way, then you're talking about somebody
that you did miss on, somebody that that was somebody
is not going to transfer somewhere else and that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
But that's the tough part is how do you how
do you keep a kid locked in? I mean, like
they try to do this like the let's just say,
like the kid Justice Terry today, I'm sure he got
somewhere in the in the middle of one to two
million a year. The nil deal that they're going to
sign him to is gonna say you're gonna get two
million a year over the if you stay here the
next four years, you will make.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Eight million total. Yeah. Uh, he won't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
But the likelihood he's not going to be there four
because if he's good for three, he's he's gone.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
After three, he's going pro.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
If he doesn't, if he barely plays as a freshman,
he may say I'm going to hit the portal and
go play somewhere else. But he'll have gotten two million
from Texas. It's what quin you Weres did in Ohio State.
He got a truck from Ohio State for not even.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
What they did. But for example, the two five star
players for the Longhorns in last year's recruiting class, Colin
Simmons was just a named a freshman All American and
Ryan Wingo has been a very impact wide receiver. And
Anthony Hill and it was a year before and he's
been very good. So that's what I'm saying. I think you.
You you have to weigh both ways. Getting in on

(01:08:35):
a five star. Absolutely you can swing and miss, but
also you might be missing on impact players where I
don't anticipate Colin Simmons being an impact starter and a
freshman All American in Texas. He's going to transfer anytime soon,
you know what I'm saying. So I don't know. It
goes both ways. I get what you're saying, but I
also feel it's up to the boosters, right and where
and these nil collectives and where they're going to be
spending this money in which which method methodology they would have.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
That's what's so funny right now seeing Justice Terror he
commits to Texas over Georgia, and all these Georgia fans
are on Twitter going, yeah, I mean all that oil
money just threw it out at Texas fans are like
you damn right, And then Georgia fans are going bragging
that you threw a bunch of money a seventeen year old.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Isn't the flex you think it is. And I'm like,
this is where we are, whether you like it or not.
Like the trash talking is just it's funny because there's
nothing you did.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
There's nothing good you had, you know, big money people
came along and said, we're gonna give this to the kids.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Okay, we'll see if it works out. Yeah, it's their
money and it's up to them if they want to
keep reinvesting. And for example, Phil Knight with Oregon. I
saw the story. Phil Knight told an Oregon commit naim
offered who was committed to Ohio State a cornerback, that
if he chose the Oregon Ducks, he would get him

(01:09:46):
a signature shoe with Nike, and he flipped to Oregon.
That's that's crazy. Phil Knight at eighty six years old,
is like driving all this nil cash.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
And who can match what booster in the cun he
can match, I'm giving you your own shoe with Nike. Well,
the Oracle CEO could give Bryce Underwood whatever the hell
he wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
But not a signature show. I mean, when's Bezos get involved?

Speaker 6 (01:10:10):
Is he?

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Oh god, did you be funny? What if Jeff Bezos
likes he picked some he throw it darted aboard and
some random Pogue program, the power for program. He wanted
to make them like the most powerful program on the planet.
Like if he just said randomly Maryland or what's his
alma model I was trying to figure out, didn't even
go to college. I imagine he probably went to college, died.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
A Montessori school in Albuquerque when he was two. Princeton. Okay, okay,
that isn't Princeton. You're not going to turn into a power.
What if he said, I'm writing a check for ten
billion dollars athletics.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
They don't give out scholarships, and they don't I imagine
the emissions are going to be pretty tough Princeton wise.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Yeah, once you get every single smart record of the plan.
Funny though, if you built up an IVY league.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
And it offered everybody ten million dollars a year, Harvard
starts making the college. Also say he grew up I
don't know a Rutgers fan. Well, the records been spending
in il money, especially in basketball. But some random let's
just say Maryland Terrapins is who he wanted to make
into a power. He could do it. He can just
offer them all ten million dollars a year for the
next whatever and get as many recruits as possibly can.

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But as you mentioned, that doesn't necessarily mean there won't
be some washing out of guys who aren't as good,
who aren't up to par, who were dominant in high
school and got to college and weren't as good. So
I don't know. I just wonder where this is going.
Where are we going to be at in ten years
with this? And I I still think it's it's misguided day.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
NIL was supposed to be for the Johnny Manziel's and
the Tim Tebows who were huge superstars and couldn't make
a dime. You know, LSU fans made T shirts with
the Honey Badger on it, and Nancaa was like, you
can't make that for tired Matthew. It's like, okay, this
is stupid, Like in fact, he can't make any money, right,
But like, I still think it's like for the Shador Sanders,
for the Travis Hunters, for those guys to who've become stars.

(01:11:58):
When yours does Doctor Pepper, that's awesome and he's in
the those Dix commercials, like that's awesome. That's what nil's
supposed to be. For paying the seventeen year olds before
they get on campus just feels a little weird because
you've done nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
We don't know if you can play or not. Yeah,
well they've done it's not that they've done nothing. They've
become one of the best recruits in the country. So
there there is some level of promise. You two million
a year if somebody pays you. Yes, and here's the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Yes, he walks Justice Henry walks onto Texas campus making
two millionairea Anthony Hill goes they're only paying me four
hundred k. Hey, honey, I'm sorry you should have got
anywhere I'm out. Well, but that's where you're about. You're
gonna hit a cap right there. You can't just keep
going more and.

Speaker 6 (01:12:38):
More, more, more and more.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Well, yeah, we're gonna see where it shakes to pay
every player a million dollars. I mean, hey, Laramie Ton,
so it makes more than the shack Mason. Are we
gonna get a capologist soon in college? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Okay, you can allocate a million for the quarterback, but
we're gonna have to pay three hundred k for the
guard and the tackle.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
These teams all have capologists probably, oh, these in il collectives,
I'm sure they're looking at how much money they're fund anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
It's about revenue sharing starting next year. Yeah, with the
TV deals and everything. Hmmm, all right, we'll take a
quick break here. How do you feel about this and
the direction Nil is going? Where are we going to
be at ten years? Is this some of this going
to settle or is it just going to keep going
and growing and growing and growing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
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Welcome back and to The Matt Thomas Show with Ross,
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Speaker 11 (01:15:31):
Hey, guys about this nil. Where I see it doing
the most damage is that the smaller group of five schools,
Because I mean, I'm a Boys and State fan, been
been once since the Oklahoma Fiesta Bowl, and they have
a reputation of developing players. Last year they lost three,
most notably being Taylor Green, the quarterback at Arkansas. Now,

(01:15:55):
the only reason they didn't lose gent is because somebody
came up with he got I think one point three million,
and then I owe money from somebody up there. But
I mean, these smaller schools who don't have the big
money to they're going to be losing recruits and that's
really gonna hurt some of these smaller schools.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Yeah, I mean, but Boise State is number ten in
the country. They've had a couple of good runs here
over the years in the past, they've never won a
national championship or at least to my knowledge, or at
least in the last several years, as far as the
actual national college championship. So I mean, it feels like
this system which has been always rigged for the big programs.

(01:16:39):
I wonder how much it changes. Cordy, I guess you
have more of a perspective on this for a team
like Boise State, who's never really had a huge shot
to win the national championship, but they make hey a
few years every now and then, like they're doing this year.
How much does this change the landscape for them year
to year?

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
I mean, they went out and got I want to say,
the kid was Dante Moore?

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Is that the kid?

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
He was like a big five star or quarterback recruit
two years ago he committed the Bois and everybody's like, Oh,
that's weird. And then I think he transferred to UCLA.
But you know, you boys, was a player there. I
don't know if they paid for him or what, but
there's you know there. Look, this is a year where
Navy and Army were largely top twenty five in the

(01:17:19):
country for much of this season. It's not like they
went out and spent a ton in nil so its
ebbs and flows with all college football. Memphis is top
twenty five. They haven't you know, they weren't diving into
the portal spending Tons.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
SMU and Indiana in the top ten.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Yeah, so it could be done. I mean, don't you
don't need to spend money. And look at A and M.
This thing backfired tremendously on them, and you signed the
number one class in twenty twenty two. They bragged about
it for weeks and look and almost all those kids
are playing elsewhere now. So I think it'll all level out.
And like I said, whether you like it or not,
government's getting involved here. There's going to be some kind

(01:17:54):
of legislation that's going to come in to kind of
push back on all this stuff, because I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
It's it's the haves and have nots.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
If you got to if you have a billionaire who
just wants to donate to your school, I don't even
say a lum Because the guy from Oracle Oracle didn't
go to Michigan, his wife went to Michigan, so he
wrote the check for Brides Underwood. So I mean those
those are gonna be few and far between. You just
gotta get a good coach and recruit well and try
to sell them on football. But I get it's frustrating
because some kids aren't being sold on footballright now. They're

(01:18:23):
being sold on just money. And again, I don't blame
the kids. Seventeen year old gets offered two million dollars,
you go take it. You be an idiot not to.

Speaker 11 (01:18:31):
All right, I was just wondering because, as I said,
Boyse has a reputation for developing players, and I hate
to see him cherry take like that. You know. I
mean the reason they are is because they've got a
good coach who I think is on level with Peterson's
level of developing players, because he's took Madison, their quarterback,
who I thought was was never going to see the field,

(01:18:53):
and actually turned them into a pretty good player. So well, well,
as you said.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
But everybody, I mean everybody develops develops town. I mean,
Ashton Gents is turned into an absolute freak there boys
of this year. But I mean, you know, Drake May
developed in North Carolina, he went top five in the draft.
You know, Michael Pennix went from Indiana to Washington. I
mean the NFL will find you if you're talented enough.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
Yeah, I agree with that, and I just wonder it's
the long term implications of this and how it plays
that will be interesting. Let's get Patrick in here real
quick at the top before the top of the hour.
What's up Patrick?

Speaker 7 (01:19:27):
Hey, guys, I just kind of want to follow up
on the last caller. But saying that in effects the smaller.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Schools than I L.

Speaker 7 (01:19:35):
I think a lot of these small schools to put
themselves at a better advantage with the transport on I
L if they just the way that it's trickling down
the talent, they're going to lose some players that are
gonna move up, but you're also gonna be able to
gain the players from the Power four, Power.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
Five and that come in.

Speaker 7 (01:19:51):
But I mean, as an LSU fan, I'm still kind
of salty about the whole price not to wood deals
and I'll hang up and listen God, thank Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
I mean, there's nothing you can do there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
They did everything right, They allocated money for him, they
kept their relationship going. Lshe did everything right for three years,
and then a billionaire came in and his wife said,
I want the number one quarterback because I don't. She said,
I don't like Michigan being bad after winning a national championship.
The worst thing that could happen was Michigan winning the
championship because they gave their fans something to be excited about.
H Yeah, well, and then they always beat Brian Day.

(01:20:20):
They get excited about that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
But they did. But yeah, I mean I agree, but
it still is all a crap shoot.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Like let's say Jackson Arnold, five star quarterback from Oklahoma,
just entered the portal. Let's say a Boise steakos, Guys,
we've only got about a million in our coffers. We
could go sprint spread it across a bunch of O
Limen and D Lineman. Or we'd go get just Jackson Arnold.
Let's go do it, and they do it and they
go get him. It's b ro buss. Jackson Arnold could
be awesome for boys, he could be the best player

(01:20:47):
they've ever had, or could be more of the same
up and down play like he was at Oklahoman and
just be an average quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
Yeah, it's it's certainly a crap shoot. I mean it's
it's almost like, you know, the NFL Draft can be
a crap shoot. So I mean we go up up
to the left, and we've seen this work with recruiting
and for years and a lot of it of course
under the table, now over the table with an il
I am. Like I said, time will tell the story
on this and how things shake out. But for the
most part we've seen the haves have stayed the haves,

(01:21:14):
and the have nots have for the most part stayed
the have notts. All right, time for a quick break here, Gordy,
thanks for hanging out for a couple hours. Man, appreciate you.
Your watch is ended. Go go off to the dentist.

Speaker 9 (01:21:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
We'll see you later. Dan Matthews coming in for the
next two hours. My name is ros Viria. Matt Thomas
is out today. He is resting as the Rockets were
in action last night and then flew to Los Angeles
into the eve. So coming up next, who's gonna say
good morning, strippers. I don't know. It's gonna be me,
It's gonna be Dan, Maybe Gordy wants to do it.
Maybe Connor mcgoverern needs to step up. Gonna do it.

(01:21:46):
We'll figure it out when we come back. And also
the signature Friday Open Also coming up next the final
two hours of The Matt Thomas Show with Ross after
the short break.

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Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Here you go. Hey Dan Matthews in the building. I
had to get that out. Thank you. I appreciate that. Somy.
What did we learn from last week? We learned that
the I don't know, I wasn't here, the Holy Iminent. Yeah,
I mean we noticed the Holy Eminence can lay a
mean hit on the football field. Yes, he can form shivers.
Apparently the one guy that got back to bro is

(01:24:02):
getting the kiddy like nobody's business. Yeah, I mean you
know what they say though, Like usually like people who
brag about their golf game or like you know, how
much they can lift or anything else, they ain't doing it, okay, Well,
and then Gordy wasn't bragging, so Matt brought it up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
And I don't even know what they don't know what's
going on with that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
But anyway, don't come after Gordy. You come after Gordy,
you come after me, come after me. You know you
don't want to come after me. I'm forty. Uh shout
out to uh, well, I got a good morning from
uh Lauren and from Larry Footsack and from Tiffany seven
to two all given good mornings at noon, So uh
shout out to all of them for listening to the

(01:24:40):
show here because you always know you can count on
Dez and Tiffany well you you certainly can't, and Lauren
to keep Chris and uh well never mind. Uh anyways, Yeah,
let's hey Dan, how's it going, man? I'm great. I
like that Georgia sweatshirt.

Speaker 8 (01:24:57):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
How about our good friend Justice Terrry choosing the long
horn Georgia bullet. I've already had a buddy of mine
reach out to me and was just like, hey, one
got away from Georgia. It's just like, okay, finally, finally, Georgia.
I think for the first time, it's looking like Texas
is going to end up with the number one overall
recruiting class first time in twenty years. Good for him.

(01:25:18):
But you know, at the same time though, too. I
mean I heard you and Gordy talking about it as
I was behind a stalled eighteen wheeler. Thanks for that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Yeah, what's going on over there? On forty five god man, Like,
it's just.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
It's one thing to have a stalled vehicle, but then
on top of it all, like I get into a
car with a purpose. I'm going from point A to
point B. Some people, I don't think necessarily do that. Yeah,
and what are they doing? Your obliviousness affects other people's day.
I so, yah, get out of the way, or just

(01:25:50):
don't even get in your car. Either one works for me.
Is this a Friday, Ain't nobody got time for that?
Ain't nobody got time for it?

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
It's a Wednesday, ain't nobody got time for It's in
any day that ends?

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
And why ain't nobody got I just feel like in general,
the distracted driving it has not only has it ramped
up in like the last ten years, I feel like
it's ramped up like in the last year. Maybe it's
because all these millennial TikTok brain kids are getting there,
finally getting their driver's license or now, but it feels
like even in the last eighteen months to distracted drive,

(01:26:25):
I'm honking like a crotchety old man at every single
left arrow like that I get into I just start honking.
I'm just honking at everyone. I mean, there is a
meme out there of I think it's like Kermit like
turning around like looking at someone, and it's like, that's
me when I drive past someone and I just want
to look and see if they have such a stupid face,

(01:26:45):
like I think they do, and more often than not
they do, because more often than not, they just have
that oblivious look on their face, like I didn't realize
I was missing people's deal. No, the worst is when
they get mad at you and throw their hands up
when you're honking at I'm like dog. The one that
the worst is when they're in the wrong and then
you honk it them and then they get mad at you.

(01:27:06):
That's what I'm saying. Hell, we're on the same page.
How kind of nerve do you have to get mad
at me?

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Moron? Oh man, I don't even know. I don't even
want to talk about this.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Because the way that I drive to work, it's only
a couple of miles, but there's like five thousand lights,
and sometimes on the way to work, I literally at
like three or four different lights. I end up honking
at people and I'm like, am I the weird old man?
Or or they no it's them that are out of time.
They're they're the ones who are wrong. Okay, I think
I was just angry too. I mean now, I don't

(01:27:38):
eat on air, man, Dan, Come on, man, that's my
my number one pet peeve is people eating on air.
Can you wait till break my god, take five minutes.
I hadn't eaten all day? Man, whose fault is that?

Speaker 10 (01:27:47):
Dad?

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Dune? Well you're blaming me at times? You wake up
eight thirty, but then get dogs in the car, drive
from tonro.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
Have a boiled egg, man, Come on, oil eggs are gross, hey,
but it gets the job done.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
You can eat him on the go. Do something, man,
pep into a Shmndy's and you can get a get
a fit. If I had time, if we didn't have
stall truck I got. You can't look. You can't be
late and have not eat eating and complaining about all
of that. Come on, Dan, picklellane, dude, and eventually I'll
get right. But well we're so gonna be waiting a
long time on that one. Dan, come on now, okay,

(01:28:23):
Dan Matthews is here. Take your time. Eventually, I'll get
there eventually. Okay, So a lot of stuff to get
to it with Dan. We got non Florida stories coming
up at one thirty. We're not doing Believe it or
not today, but he is here. We've got Alex Pregmant
stuff to talk about with Brian McTaggart on the A
team yesterday, we've been talking a lot about nil Where
does it go? Justice Terry signing away from Georgia. We

(01:28:44):
know that nil money had a lot to do with that.
The Longhorns are ponying up this year. They have the
number one overall recruiting class. The Rockets lost last night for.

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The fifteenth time in a row.

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Dan, who's the angry one?

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Now? Me?

Speaker 3 (01:30:41):
I was angry last time too? Sorry, I got it out.
We're good, but go ahead, what are you?

Speaker 7 (01:30:47):
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on Christmas even that's it. Otherwise he doesn't like Christmas music.
He is a scrooge. You should get coal in his stocking.
And he us hates America. Well, I mean, you know,
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all the great commendations and you know doesn't want you
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Christal spirit because oh no, we got the Golden State
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Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
We played them and then we had to fly to
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minute flights exactly. They got their probably last night. I'm tired. Okay,
you know he's listening to well maybe I don't know
know he is he is, why, I guarantee you No,
I don't think he always listens. I see what I'm off. Well,
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(01:31:37):
I'm kidding, but no, he wants to hear how much
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Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
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Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
Oh, oh, I always I've had nothing to say but
nice things about Matt All all show along until you
showed up. So ten to two every single day is
you two just roasting each other and something? When Gordy
comes in here and then you two just yell at
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(01:32:07):
is so good and then in the Texas avoided him,
why didn't they show up to the SEC championship game? Huh?

Speaker 14 (01:32:12):
If Maszoo's so good, why didn't they show up to
the SEC championship game? Okay, if all these teams that
Texas avoided aren't on the schedule, they should have showed
up and made the SEC Championship game.

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
They did not, So they're rematching Georgia. Well, I mean,
you know, Gordy angered at Texas fans. I angered A
A and M fans. It's easy with Aggie fans.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Yeah, geez, good lord guys, even when like I apologized
to one guy for you know how far in I went.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
What'd you say? Man? I just said, they're an embarrassment
of a program. Wow, embarrassment of program is a little much, see,
and that's what they said too. But then he still
tries to tell me, oh, well, you know back in
the nineties. I'm like, dude, I was five years old.
All right, I'm thirty, I'm thirty nine. Now you have
to go back into the nineteen thirties. That's when we're
really going to program dominance. Yeah, Hitler wasn't Poland they

(01:33:01):
were invading Normandy last time. Well yeah, no, Norman saw
Varc's horns off was actually a thing. Yeah, seriously. All right, anyways, Dan,
good to have you here. We've been talking a fair
amount about college football and then so I can get
your thoughts on this because we were bringing up the
nil money that continues to fly around. As it mentioned

(01:33:21):
it very clearly, the long horns are paying up the
boosters and the old fogies and the oil money, whatever
you want to call it. They just landed Justice Terry.
Everybody had predicted Justice Terry to go to Georgia. Georgia
had been recruiting him. This is a six foot five,
two hundred and seventy five foot pound defensive lineman. They
had been recruiting him since eighth grade. Texas shows up

(01:33:42):
in the last two months, conceivably probably up whatever offer
that the NIL offer they sweep in, they take him.
What is the long term term implications in your mind
of NIL to where is this money that keeps getting
poured in year after year? How much, which longer is
this going to continue to be ponied up at this

(01:34:05):
high volume across college football. I'll start with him first.
I mean, I think that the unfortunate truth is is
however much money he's being paid, once that gets out,
it's going to be impossible for him to match any
type of expectations. Like, no matter how good he might
be on the field, there's still gonna be people out
there that say, well, I thought he was supposed to
do this. I thought he was supposed to do that.
Like that's the part to me that I just I

(01:34:28):
can't fathom, Like why teams are paying or people are
paying you know, these seventeen eighteen year old kids this
amount of money when you don't even know what they're
going to be on your campus. Yet I can understand
to a point a junior, a senior, maybe even a
sophomore like Maurice Colorette's looking around right now saying damn man.
Why wasn't I born the twenty years see? And that's funny.

(01:34:51):
I thought about that last night too, as everybody wanted
to villainize Jim Tressel for you know, oh my god,
he lied. No, he covered for his players, but now
you know, not only for him, but for Will Wade
and basketball like everybody Ranchie Bush. Yeah, yeah, you know
mister strong ass offer. Well, now it would be just fine.
He could give out millions of strong ass offers if
he wants. But it's just, for the life of me,

(01:35:14):
I can't understand even how good this guy might be.
Like remember when Robert Candichi and Laramie Tunsall and all
those guys went to Ole Miss. Yes, and where's Robert Condicci.
Now I have no where. Where's Leaqwan Treadwell? Now, uh
he is. I think on somebody's practice squad actually, but
obviously we know where Laramie Tunsil is. Yeah, So you

(01:35:34):
get my point here is that there is no guarantee here.
So you're spending all of this money like that moron's
wife from Oracle who wants to spend this money so
they can make Michigan so much better. There is zero
guarantee that Bryce Underwood is going to live up to that,
and you want to show out twelve million dollars. God,
I hope you hit bankruptcy. There is zero guarantee. But
as far as a hit rate, five star recruits do

(01:35:56):
hit at a higher rate than four star and three
star recruits, so you need we don't have it necessarily
a guarantee, but I was bringing this up as well,
like the two five star recruits according to twenty four
to seven for the Longhorns last year, we're Colin Simmons,
who is being named to Freshman All American Teams and
Ryan Wingo, who's been a very important part of their offense.
So at the end of the day, you say, are

(01:36:16):
we going to spend money in the portal? Are we
going to spend money on recruits in coming? And it
looks like, I mean, you kind of got to do both.
And what does that mean for everyone else? What does
that mean for donor fatigue long term? For example at
Texas A and M. Of course, the big class that
they had two years ago, now since then they haven't
what was it eight five star recruits they had or

(01:36:37):
something like that in that class, and since then, they've
been basically what they've had an aggregate in the three
classes since then. And so are we going to see
this across the country or is it going to keep
happening or is it going to keep happening in different programs.
I just wonder, like there can't be unlimited funds. There
can't be people out there who say, outside of like

(01:36:57):
Phil Knight, that it's worth my money that I have
lying around to pour in millions and millions and millions
of dollars every year for these recruits that a are
maybe are going to be stars but b might not
work out and see you're going to hit the transfer
portal after a year or two. Well, it's also too
I mean take LSU's approach for example, is they lost
a few and of course everybody haha, Brian Kelly, you loser,

(01:37:17):
you lost to these recruits. No, they just didn't want
to pay seventeen eighteen year old kids money that they
have and they are flush with cash. From everybody I've
talked with, they're saying, I'd much rather pay a guy
that's two or three years experienced and be able to
give them that money because I know, at least i've
seen it on tape. What this guy can do against
this competition. I can only hope what this guy can

(01:37:39):
do against this competition. But to your point as well,
it does seem like we are getting that route. I
know Gordy mentioned about Greg Sanki, he's been a huge
proponent of it. You know, many other conference commissioners as well,
of going to Capitol Hill and saying, hey, guys, come on, man,
you got to step in here. This is getting kind
of out of hand. I'm about players getting paid, but
I'm also not about unreasonable money being spent, because it's

(01:38:01):
also too it's not good for the kids. What the
hell would you have done at eighteen years old four
million dollars? I would have been pretty happy. I would
have taken care of my family. I would have bought
my parents a house. Not had been the priority for you. Well,
it might not have been the priority for you. You
had been like, the hell, I got four million dollars,
I'm set, I'm good, and that's that's okay. I don't
have a problem with that. I feel like, if you

(01:38:23):
if you make yourself a top level recruit, and the
hell the people are somewhere. If somebody offered me two
million dollars at eighteen, I would have taken it, and
maybe I would have been I mean obviously would have
been very foolish with the money and would have spent
it foolishly. But that that that also, I don't think
saying that people are going to be irresponsible with that
money means you take it away because you have That

(01:38:44):
happens in baseball when guys are drafted at a high
school and they get big signing bonuses, and sometimes it
doesn't work out, and sometimes it does. Fair point. But
it's also though too. It's another example of it sets
the expectations so high that they cannot be met. Because
I guarantee you that's going to happen. The first time
that Bryce Underwood gets on the field at Michigan and
he throws a pick. You're going to have people who

(01:39:05):
are going to say that this is what our ten
million dollars got us, Like, seriously, this is it? Well,
so what then you live and learn? Then then you say,
you know what, maybe next time I'm not going to
give up ten million dollars. Yeah, and then then that's
a fund of the donor. To me, It's not on
it's not on the player. Oh it's not like they're
going to be denying that money or say no. For
me to see billionaires with the egg on their face,
I mean, the minute that that happens, it's kind of like,

(01:39:29):
guess what, you can't spend your way out of this
one idiot. But I just don't. I don't have a
problem with these offers coming in and people wanting to
take care of their families, wanting to do whatever, and then, yeah,
a lot of the money's not going to be spent responsibly.
Hopefully the tax implications are okay, and nobody has the
irs all coming after them, but at all on a
large scale, I don't have a problem with the money
being spent. Don't get me wrong. I you know, if

(01:39:50):
people are willing to pay you, then get yours. I
mean that's like the thing that always cracks me up
as well, is I mean we do this all the
time in pro sports. Oh well, you know he's signed
this huge contract. Well, if you offered it to as well,
knowing full well that maybe you can't live up to
those expectations, you're taking the money. Damn the torpedoes. Man,
that's everybody else's problem. If you're upset with my performance.

(01:40:10):
All right, Well, so it's interesting for sure, but we
will continue to talk about it. With the nil money
that's being thrown around mentioned earlier, Phil Knight promising a
recruit a cornerback like his own shoe from Nike. Nobody
can match that. But Jordan, what are you doing? It's
his own Jordan Brandt. No, I don't know if it's
gonna go that big, but that's that's something that that

(01:40:32):
no other team can match. So the nil stuff, it
just continues to go up and up and up and
get crazier and crazier and crazer. Where does it go
from here? Does the government step in?

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
Do they need to?

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
We'll talk about it. Seven one three two one two
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Show with Ross with you until two o'clock on Sports
Talk seven ninety ride. Half the workday is done. Celebrate
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Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
Some of you started the party at breakfast. Matt Thomas
on Sports Talk seven ninety He else and welcome back.

Speaker 10 (01:41:11):
Here.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
It's not Sunday ninety nine point one. I think you're
rather enjoying playing all this Christmas music. Aren't you? Aren't you? Connor?
Connor is getting into it. It feels like, you know,
in honor of Matt Thomas, yesterday we were playing yacht
rock in the first out, yeat rock sucks. That's not true.
What did that? Did that documentary come out? Is that
what you guys did? That's what That's what kind of

(01:41:32):
fired me up. They talked about how it's a fake genre.
It was more totally made up. I mean, it's it's
a conglomeration genre. I guess if you will, but uh,
fake And then you know, you had ac you know,
asking if it was that I wanted to talk about it.
I just said no, I just wanted to hear it.
I just wanted to hear Christopher Cross right like the Wind,
which is a really interesting song because it's basically about

(01:41:57):
somebody that's on acid trying to run from the wall.
Oh okay, that sounds like fust yacht rock songs, and
that's what they talk about in the documentary. Most yacht
rock songs are sad songs. Oh it's regrets, so they're depressive. Yeah,
it's heartbreak. What you should have done again? Regret. Wow, okay, yeah,
like you know you're you're thinking to yourself, Oh, this

(01:42:18):
is so nice to be on a lake or to
be in a bay somewhere right now listening to this.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
No, it's not really a happy song. Case you wanted
to be depressed? Do you listen to the yacht rock?

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
There we go? All right, Welcome back to the Matt
Thomas that's so irritable all the time. Well you said it,
not me. Welcome back to the Matt Thomas Show with Ross.
Without Matt Thomas. He is resting as he was traveling
with the Rockets. Rockets lose last night to the Golden
State Warriors ninety nine to ninety three. No, you don't

(01:42:48):
have to check your time machine. You don't have to
check your calendars. That wasn't That wasn't a final score
from like nineteen ninety six. It was twenty twenty four.
Both teams didn't score one hundred points. How many times
that probably happened to this NBA seam. I mean you
know that you're exactly right, you're hitting it right on
the head. The mid nineties right there, of like you
know the Nicks and heat or Nicks and remember when

(01:43:08):
last dance during COVID and it was like final score
eighty four to seventy nine. You're like, what is that
not the third quarter? There's college teams now that are
winning games. Obviously they're starting to see college games where
like they're getting into the nineties there in forty minutes
of basketball. Yeah, exactly. So Rockets lose last night. The
defense is still really good, but they could not hit

(01:43:30):
a three pointer to save their lives. Only twenty six
percent from three. And you can still bring the defense
every night. But we've been waiting now and we're what
twenty three games into the season. This offense has not
made consistent leaps that we were hoping it was going
to make coming into this year. They've improved, but I mean,
you're still looking at a team that's in I throw

(01:43:51):
the soud on Twitter last night. They're gonna have to
go get a sharp shooter. And I'm not saying that
it's going to be Read Shepherd. Well, I mean, and
that's the thing you like for him to come along.
But if you and you know heard I heard you
mentioned this earlier about you know just how compact the
Western Conference is. You can't fool around like when it
gets to the trade deadline, you're gonna need to go
find somebody that can be a good option off the

(01:44:14):
bench for you that you look to and say, yep,
there's one, three, there's two. Oh my god, there's three.
What a substitution. Yeah, as you mentioned, they are two
and a half games back of the thunder as the
two seed. However, they are tied with the Mavericks and
Grizzlies in that spot, and they are only three and
a half games ahead of the Spurs, who are eleventh

(01:44:35):
in the West. Away, Spurs, and I know you're out
there listening, missy, but still go away, like the sanctimonious
organization is off the charts, So just go away, fade
into obscurity. Let me cares about you. Who cares? Who cares?
I'm just curious. I'm just keeping an eye on Victim. Oh,

(01:44:56):
he's gonna be the next great star of the NBA.
All right, great, pretty good. You dropped fifty earlier this year.
You know it must be nice to be born on
third bases in organization.

Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
Well, well, the Spurs have had to take it on
the channel out. But they did tank for Tim Duncan
and got him, and they changed, he changed the franchise.
We'll see they did tank for Victor Wibanell. Like what
my PTSD is here And I'm not saying that to
be you know, funny here, yeah, but what it is
is me being in college when the Spurs are winning
all those titles, and of course everybody I went, you know,

(01:45:26):
I was in college with at TLU would be like,
you know, go Spurs go, Gospurs go. Oh what a
great organization. Shut up. I hate that lame phrase. By
the way, go Spurs go. I think it's it's horrible.
I didn't get anybody going. How long did it take
you to come up with that? One? San Antonio fan?
And I've been to a couple of games there. I mean,
it wasn't one. The Rockets beat the Spurs, and I

(01:45:51):
remember there was me and a conglomeration of Houston Rockets
fans were just doing Rocket and people were getting very upset.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
He sitting with the red routy. That was when I
was in my early twenties. Maybe perhaps I was a
little more of.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
A rabble rouser than I am, and so you were
the one beating on the snare drum. I'm a little
more non confrontational and my old the last rocket scheme
I went to. I swear that they had like a
guy with like a full drum set sitting in the
go around. They have the drums and they go around
and they do that whole thing and the symbols and everything.
Like what was it during like one of the the

(01:46:25):
free throws, he wasn't beating on the drum. He was like,
I had a cool set. I had a full kid
out here. It was incredible, really was like, Wow, he
got the bass and the scenaire and the symbols and
all that stuff out there. I can't wait to see
what he does with the kick drum a cow bell
as well. That would be good. That would be good.
I'm always good. I'm always in favor of the use

(01:46:45):
of the cowboy. It would get the people going. I mean, well,
there's not you don't have to have a guy with
a full drum set out there in the rowdies. You know,
there's not a whole lot of room these days, because
you know Jo has whittled them down. You need somebody
to come along and say, hey, look, I'm just like
you put my put my pants on one leg at
a time. But when I do I make gold records
that that stuff? What you need? What is happening with

(01:47:05):
the rowdies? By the way, I seen a rowdy to
tell me like there used to be like a full section. Well,
it's not only the rowdies, it's also the bullpen at
Texans games. Remember how that was whittled down to, Yeah,
it was supposed to I haven't been fans section and
in all of football. And then I look down there,
because it's funny you say that, because I had just,
you know, gone to the last Texans game and I
was like, is the bullpen even really a thing anymore?

(01:47:27):
And he just he just looked like a bunch of
regular fans sitting around. So I think, finally callan Hannah said,
all right, well you know we don't we don't hear
them stop giving away with a Lord Farquhar crown. He
can go sit somewhere else, Hannah said, no more, Warrior
can just go sit somewhere up where's that guy's he's
got to sit there in the end zone. I gotta

(01:47:47):
get on TV something on the field. I was just
on the field. I was trying to figure that they
put him in a middle linebacker. He's getting in for
as all ear I think only say I think in
his mind he thinks he is. How's this downhill run stopping? Okay,
he doesn't look like he's got the greatest knees. He's
not moving it. It used to be better back in
the eighties. It's gonna say. I think the ligament and

(01:48:08):
tendon ish probably of the upkeep for him. I can't judge.
My knees will be exploding if I stepped up any
day I go down a flight of stairs, creaking soreness.
That's just it. It's bad. It's not good for anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Okay, it's looking for business. It's not good for anybody. Well, anyways,
the Rockets, I guess that's what we were talking about.
I don't know they yeah, can we.

Speaker 3 (01:48:31):
I was bringing this up earlier and somebody mentioned the
Braves owning the Astros in the nineties like a franchise.
But the Warriors own the Rockets as much as any
Houston franchise has been owned by another team that I
can think of. The Texans owned by the Patriots for
a while there, and the Colts as well when Peyton
Manning was there. But I mean, it feels like this

(01:48:52):
is even worse with the Warriors and the Rockets getting
beat down by them in the playoffs all those times,
and still Draymond and Steph did not play last game,
and it's Jonathan Kamana and Andrew Wiggins beating you down. Yeah,
that was the frustrating part of it all. And of course,
you know you gets Steph on the on the bench
having that smirk on his face. Okay, we'll wipe that

(01:49:14):
smirk off your face. But no, I would say it's
the Texans with the Ravens right now. The Ravens are
an issue for them, and the Astros with the Reds.
Haven't the Astros like the Reds? All right? That's a
little bit. The Astros not beating the Reds since like
twenty nineteen. Yeah, but that's different. They suck. It hasn't
been like in a playoff that still loose to them.

(01:49:35):
How about the Astros like the reverse of it being
the Astros and the Yankees. Well, that's what I'm saying
Astros done to the Yankees over the years, is that
how Yankees fans feel about the Astros is how I
feel about the Golden State Warriors. Well, I mean Yankee
fans try to then moral high horse themselves and you know,
but you guys cheated in twenty seventeen. No, you got
two hits. That's why you lost. I mean you know,

(01:49:56):
that's that's how they tried to rationalize it to themselves.
And then jose L two Ve hits a home run
to beat him. Yeah, Rockets and Warriors just feels like
the biggest owning that I can think of of a
Houston franchise from another port and a like for like
a loose balls being near the bench and somebody just
puts a shoulder right into the chest of Steve Kerr.

(01:50:17):
Really do you want you want poor old, helpless Steve
Kerr to be hurt in actual basketball playing. I didn't
say get hurt. I'm just saying, hey, oh you want
a shoulder into him. You're trying to send him in
the hospitals. He's trying to dive to save a loose ball.
I'm kidding him. I do not condone violence against other coaches.
Now if he may Doka and Steve Kerr want to
scrap that. Before I was gonna say, I think Steve
crowd here running for the tunnel. I think he would

(01:50:38):
be You saw John Goebel the other night. You saw
the fear in that man's eyes. Even a lot of
current NBA players would be running all right. Time for
a quick break here on The Matt Thomas Show with
Ross Without Matt Thomas, Dan Matthews is here with us
until two o'clock. We got Non Florida's stories coming up.
We're talking some rockets. We've been talking about the nil
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Speaker 3 (01:52:44):
Once I got around that stalled eighteen wheeler that you
heard sky Mike just tell you about. Yes, this song
was playing because I was listening to our station across
the hall. Okay, were you like I'm not having a
holly jolly Christmas right now. Trying to travel, I was
trying to make myself have a holly jolly Christmas. And
as soon as I got around on this song came on, where,
of course I absolutely gave the eighteen wheeler driver a

(01:53:05):
dirty look. Well, how dare you break down on the freeway.
I mentioned this to Matt. I think I don't know
if you were listening, but I will never again complain
about After watching the drivers in Taiwan, I urge you,
I will never again complain about Houston drivers. Okay, maybe
I will, but I'll need to remind myself that play.
There are no rules on the road out there. People

(01:53:25):
are merging in between intersections. There's little people in thousands
of scooters, Like at every stop, like there's a big
like uh sectioned off area at the very front for
the scooters and they all just weave through traffic and
the scooters go in front of everyone. There is a
big biking culture. There's people biking everywhere. There's pedestrians walking everywhere,

(01:53:48):
there's buses. It is mayhem out there. Do you think
there's like scooter gangs? Yeah, you have to blood in
to be part of the bar, the Vespa gang. That's
the chie wait for people to get around. I guess
a lot of old ladies on scooters around there too,
like zooming around like I'm at the fruit market trying
to buy the fruit. By the way in Taiwan. Extremely
the best banana I ever had my life. Best passion

(01:54:09):
fruit I ever. The pineapples were out of season, so
that a passion fruit. Passion fruit quite delicious. Dragon fruit
quite delicious as well. I don't know if you've ever
had any dragon Those are the ones that like look
really weird on the outside, but then like you cut
into them and you're kind of like, oh, yeah, it's
got a little seeds. Yeah. Yeah, they're very good as well,
very very I would just say flavorful, bursting with flavor.

(01:54:31):
All the fruit over there, and that's like it's like
in the movie The Rundown where you know they were
eating that fruit and then they were getting hallucinations. What
movie the Rundown? Is? This is this where we ding you?
I heard I heard that when you make a movie
reference it's Time for a Day the Rock and Sean
William Scott, it's that one. I'm sorry, ye in the

(01:54:53):
Bad watch a lot of movies, don't you dad the
bad guy in the movie. You just go home and
watch six movies that night, Christopher, you reference like eighty
percent of the movies you reference. I have that scene
jumping off of building and in taking out a pillar.
But doing his own show with his own movie right now,
what is happening? It's one of the most ridiculous movies ever.

(01:55:14):
Oh God, whoever thought the Rock was good at acting? Uh? Well,
doesn't he just play the same character in every single movie?
Pretty much? He didn't have a lot of range, but
apparently he hits in the box office. Maybe just just
be the big guy in the movie and you can
be it. I do want to see that that Christmas
one that he's doing with Chris Evans. Oh, where it's
like Christmas Action. Yeah, they're trying to like rescue Sanna.
What do they call that? You want to see every movie?

(01:55:36):
Dam Well, this is this one called now, I don't
know what it's called. I honestly don't. Uh. The only
other one that I do want to see is Gladiator.
She wants to go see. Yeah, yeah, let me see
Wicked and Gladiator too, Honestly in both and I'm I
don't want to see Wicked? Why not? I have zero interest?
What's what's the problem. I'm not an Ariana Grande fan.
Well she's annoying. You're not an Ariana ground Oh you've

(01:55:58):
upset somebody on the show.

Speaker 6 (01:55:59):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:55:59):
I think at night she turns into a mouse. She's
I'm an Ariana Grande fan.

Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:56:05):
I can't name one of her songs, but I'm a
fan of hers. I think she does great work. Not
a fan. Okay, well, Connor, do you want to pipe
up for your lady? Not a fan, I'm not. I
am not going to pay my money to go into
her coffers. I am not going excuse me, Well, how
much we're talking? All right? What's mine is mine and
it will not be spent on Wicked. Okay, why don't

(01:56:28):
you go with the lady. How do you feel about
musicals in general? I like you hate musicals? I like
musicals in general. Wicked is supposed to be this is
one of the most famous ones of recent vintage, right,
or at least been blowing up. It's on. Yeah, so
you will go see the Rundown where Sean Williams Scott
in the in the Rock, But you draw the line
at Wicked, nobody and nobody accounted for taste here. Okay,

(01:56:49):
I mean I'm just saying, I'm just kind of get
a strap.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
Does does Denzel Washington have a New York accident? And
Gladiator too?

Speaker 2 (01:56:58):
That's what I've heard, See, Macs Maximus, We've got problems,
which I think is totally fine because in the old
Gladiator movie they all had English accents.

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
They weren't speaking English and Rome, thank you. Like, why
is it that every Roman matt always has British people
playing the Romans. I'm like, they weren't British, were Italian.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
It's a little makes it a little exotic, I guess
for us here in America. It's for us we think
that like, if a British person is playing the role,
it's a really serious role, because my god, they are Trusians.

Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
I want them all to have Southern accents. Where's Maximus?

Speaker 6 (01:57:32):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
Tell your Marty Smith makes a cameo strength and honor.
Hey man, you fighting the line today? Yeah, he's tired
that tiger plumb came out of nowhere. Hey, I hear
they're gonna fill it up with water. A little bit
later on how are you on the boat. That's what
I want to see, because yeah, they always just as
a default for American movies and audiences when it's old
Greek or Roman or whatever, we just give them British acts. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
In speaking of Denzel too, Denzel seemingly always plays the
same character in every single movie. He's either the good
guy that's got a little bit of a bad side
to him, or he's the bad guy that you want
to see get.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
Away with it. Yeah, Denzel one of the all time greats.
He really is seeming and seemingly a good guy too. Really,
I'll take your word for it. I've heard I don't know.
All right, so Gladiator too over Wicked. I'm gonna try
to see both, and I'm but you got a goal
around on the all in the entire city to see everything.
I'm trying to go on Tuesdays, half off, let's go. Yeah,

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we we We've got one of those fining uh you know,
finding dines right there, you know, like we're we go
nice little the Alamo Draft House, rip offs pretty much
the o G Baby, Yeah, pretty much gone right. It's
right there in the Woodlands Market Street. So that's usually
where we go see movies. Yeah, looking forward to it.
All right, We're gonna take a quick break here on
that is one hour down with Dan and one hour

(01:58:50):
to go. We also have a non of Florida stories
coming up. Didn't even get into what we wanted to
get into here. We're also going to have coming up.
You're good friend, Barrett Sale. We're gonna be talking all
things college football with him. What are we talking? Championship? Yeah, championships.
I wanna talk about the number one recruiting class in
the land. And justice Terry. We could talk the Horns up.
Okay maybe and we could talk that too. I'm curious
to what he has to say about the future of

(01:59:11):
anyowhere it's going because it is just the wild West
out there for Barrett Covers. It all soup to nuts.
So Barrett see, coming up, We're gonna talk some college
football with him. We also have non Florida stories coming
up as well. Here on the Matt Thomas Show. Without
Matt Thomas, he is out resting. He'll be out on
Monday as well. In the meantime, you have Dan Matthews,
you have Meet Ross of yr Reel Economer government as well,

(01:59:33):
and Barrett Sale on college football coming up next here
on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 1 (01:59:37):
Ninety lunchtimers, this is the Matt Thomas Show, our number four,
The Matt Thomas Show with Ross.

Speaker 3 (01:59:47):
Without Matt Thomas, he is out resting Ross. That's me.
I am still here. Dan Matthews with us as well.
I really never leave. Appreciate. Yeah, I mean it is
Dan Talk seven ninety over here. My god, I feel
like you get more airtime then then probably I haven't
the last definitely been. And you know, and Matt was
asking to you know, hey, I've got these days and
I'm like, I'll see man like, yeah, well, whatever we're paying,

(02:00:11):
gonna do my thing too. Whatever we're paying you, I'm
sure it's not enough. All right. Matthews is here and
right now please to be joined by Barrett Sally here
on Sports Talk seven ninety, the host of College of
Football Smothered and covered also on Serious XM College, also
with out Kick. He's covering it all. Barrett Ross and

(02:00:31):
Dan with you here in Houston. How are things?

Speaker 12 (02:00:34):
I'm good, just getting ready for a very unique.

Speaker 3 (02:00:38):
SEC Championship game.

Speaker 6 (02:00:40):
I don't know how many people thought we'd have Texas
here in this game about five years ago because I
don't think anybody expected Texas to even be in this
conference yet yet here we are.

Speaker 3 (02:00:49):
It should be a lot of fun. Yeah, it should
be a lot of fun. We'll definitely get testedto it
in a second. But I actually had a question of
more general And we've been talking about this a lot
on the show today with all the recruiting stuff that's
been happening in the last couple of days, and we've
talked about Phil Knight and what he's doing at Oregon.
Clearly the boosters at Texas poning up the cash this year.
What do you think happens long term with all this

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NIL money that's being spent, Because we've seen at some programs,
for example A and M they had the huge pop
in twenty two, but since that's subsided, you've had some
boosters in Miami and other schools talk about donor fatigue,
But then these other schools keep popping up, and I mean,
I don't know if Phil Knight can even possibly get
in loved with save him dying. I don't know if
he's going to get donor fatigue. What is the future

(02:01:31):
of the college landscape as it comes as it goes
with nil? When does the government step in or how
long is it going to be the wild West? This
is what it feels like right now.

Speaker 6 (02:01:40):
Well, revenue sharing is coming, and I think that sort
of will stabilize everything because the nil the collectives, you know,
I think they overspent for everything, right, you mentioned Texas,
A and M. Of the twenty six players who signed
with that historic class, I think only eleven or ten
or eleven are still there, and so don't fatigue will

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be real, especially for a lot of these guys who
are are paid handsomely that just don't pan out, you know.
So I think when revenue sharing kicks in, you're gonna
see a little bit more structure. Will there be deals
done under the table? Sure, but I kind of liken
this whole thing to appendle them right. Ten years ago,

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I mean, everybody would be floored by Cam Newton making
one hundred and eighty thousand dollars, which is chump change now,
and then now you've got twelve million dollars from quarterbacks
going from LSU to Michigan, sorry Dan, And then and
then now it's going to come back to the middle
with revenue sharing.

Speaker 3 (02:02:37):
So I think it's just a natural progression.

Speaker 6 (02:02:39):
And you know, as far as the government, I don't
trust anything the federal government does at this point, but
I think it'll stabilize just with the revenue sharing that's coming.

Speaker 3 (02:02:48):
Barrett's lee again, joining us a host of college football
Smothered in Cover. You can also hear him on Sirius
XM College Channel eighty four. Let's talk about the game
to Marrow, Barrett. I mean, this is a game that
I'm pretty sure after October fifteenth, Texas was looking at
it and saying, gosh, we'd really like to have those
guys again. What could be the storyline tomorrow if Texas

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is able to exact revenge, well.

Speaker 6 (02:03:12):
They do to Carson Beck what they did to Carson
Beck last time. You know, you guys saw it firsthand,
and and folks around my part in the state of
Georgia just sort of choose to ignore the fact that
Carson Beck was outright bad in that game against Texas.
And honestly, Trevor etn scored the touchdowns, but they weren't
very good on the ground either.

Speaker 3 (02:03:30):
That offense was pretty dreadful.

Speaker 6 (02:03:32):
And that's a credit to Texas's defense, which has been,
you know, pretty solid all season long. To say the least,
So I think they're going to have to do to
Carson Beck what what they did last time, and hope
they get a little bit better offensive offensive line plays.
And without Kelvin Banks or with the limited Calvin Banks,
whatever happens with him, that's going to be difficult. But

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I think that's the biggest thing is if if they
do to Carson Beck what they did last time, they
should at least give themselves a puncher's chance as long
as they're able to figure out how to block.

Speaker 3 (02:04:05):
Michael Williams and some of those guys.

Speaker 6 (02:04:07):
So and look, talking to some folks around here, you know,
there is a lot of scuttle butt around around that
defense that you know, maybe after a lot of those
players put that Texas game on tape, they kind of
backed off a little bit. And I don't know how
much validity there is to that, but that kind of
mindset could linger. Even if you do go all out,

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you know, you might not necessarily know what you're true.
All out is if you're looking for the looking to
go to the pro. So, you know, I think it's
gonna be, you know, a situation where you know, if
they can just repeat what they did defensively, they're probably
gonna give themselves a chance, but that would definitely center

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around their offensive line playing just a little bit better,
to say the least.

Speaker 3 (02:04:54):
What's your opinion of quinn Ewers as a quarterback in general,
and especially considering keeping in mind that he was benched
last time these two teams met.

Speaker 6 (02:05:04):
Uh, My opinion of him is that he does not
have a ceiling that's nearly as high as as I
thought it was, and then a lot of people thought
it was.

Speaker 3 (02:05:12):
But his his floor is pretty high, right.

Speaker 6 (02:05:15):
He's not gonna go out there and make stupid mistakes
like Carson beck will, like a lot of other quarterbacks
in the in the SEC, well, Jalen Milroe.

Speaker 3 (02:05:21):
So you know, to me, he is he's a He's.

Speaker 6 (02:05:24):
An above average quarterback who is is not necessarily going
to be a difference maker in every single game, but
he's certainly not gonna lose your games.

Speaker 3 (02:05:33):
And and I think in the.

Speaker 6 (02:05:34):
SEC this year that's that plays well because you know
it is so you know Jekyl and Hyde essentially with
every single team, and so you know, as far as
moving forward the pros, I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (02:05:46):
I don't scout scout people like that.

Speaker 6 (02:05:47):
But I think right now for me, he's a he's
a perfect quarterback for this particular season in the Southeastern Conference.

Speaker 3 (02:05:55):
Uh, and he's gonna have to be better.

Speaker 6 (02:05:57):
He's gonna have to show a higher ceiling if they're
gonna win the national championship because you know, Dylan Gabriel
has not slowed down at all this year, right, So
I mean, if Oregon's gonna continue to do what it does,
it's gonna be hard for Texas to keep up. And
if that becomes a track meet, if that's into that
ends up being a matchup at some point. So you know,
I think he's he's really solid. Quinn's really solid, but

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he does not have the upside that that that I
thought he'd have because I you know, hell, I Peyton
to win the Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 3 (02:06:27):
So that shows you exactly where I thought he'd be.
How dare you, Barrett? How dare you? All Right? Let's
flip it up to Charlotte though, because another game that's
of somewhat local interest around here SMU and Clemson. There's
a lot of scuttle about SMU. They lose this game, Hey,
they should still be in What do you have to
say about that, like, do you do you think that
the committee would, honestly if SMU loses, put them in.

Speaker 13 (02:06:50):
Dan.

Speaker 3 (02:06:50):
I have no idea what the committee's thinking right now.

Speaker 6 (02:06:53):
For eleven years we heard we'll start with the blank
sheet of paper, clean slate, blah blah blah, and then
suddenly ward manuals like, oh yeah, they're all.

Speaker 3 (02:07:00):
Set in stone on Tuesday. Wait a minute, that's that's
not how it works. And they did mention that SMU.

Speaker 6 (02:07:08):
They said hypothetically SMU could drop below Alabama, but then
they don't want to.

Speaker 3 (02:07:11):
Talk about hypotheticals whatever.

Speaker 12 (02:07:15):
But I think they're gonna I don't think they're gonna
punish SMU that much.

Speaker 3 (02:07:21):
Right, Like they ran the table in the ACC.

Speaker 6 (02:07:25):
That is, that's really hard to do for anybody, right,
I don't care that the ACC is down doing it
as hard. They're one loss right now to b y
U is a pretty quality loss. Their second with Clemson
would be a quality loss as well. H Alabama has
two two of their three losses are inexcusable. Uh so
I think that would matter. But above all else, I

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don't think they're gonna punish any team for playing their
way into a game.

Speaker 3 (02:07:51):
That they lose.

Speaker 6 (02:07:52):
You know, I've kind of thought about this, and to me,
I think these championship games in an expanded playoff are
gonna be basically like how the basketball committee treats conference
championship a conference tournament. I hate comparing football to basketball,
but in this case, I think they will in a
sense that you can play your way up in a

(02:08:12):
conference championship game, but unless you lose in the first
round in epic fashion, you're not really going to play.

Speaker 3 (02:08:18):
Your way back down. And I hope that's how they
approach it. But Dan, I have no idea what to
expect of this committee anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:08:26):
To be honest with you, anybody does Yeah, do you
Barrett talk about Barrett's lee here on a Sports Talk
seven ninety Do you think they should keep the automatic
bids for conference championships or a conference champions or do
away with it?

Speaker 6 (02:08:41):
Automatic bids are the dumbest thing in all of sports.
I don't like them in in pro sports.

Speaker 3 (02:08:48):
I mean, I really what. I am a Falcons fan.

Speaker 6 (02:08:51):
There are several years where I wouldn't even want my
Falcons making the playoffs if they're seven and nine or
seven and ten, And that's and a possibility. You know,
it's just and especially in a sport like college football,
you have one hundred and thirty four teams. Every conference
is built differently. There's you know, their scheduling differences are

(02:09:12):
as wide as the Grand Canyon. Sometimes why should anybody
get an automatic bid? But you know these are this
is the system that all these guys voted on. All
these commissioners are out for themselves. They know that they
need to have a chance to get in with their
conference champion regardless. So you know it's it's not going
to change. But like I said, I think automatic bids

(02:09:36):
are ridiculous. Based on conferences, based on geography, based on whatever.
You know, none of those things actually prove if you're
a great team or not.

Speaker 3 (02:09:47):
Barrett's if you know, as far as we go for
the CFP, do you think that it is going to
be set up well enough where we can have every
single of these wild card weekend games be competitive or
do you think that we're in for two three of
them to be well? Kind of wasting my time watching
that one.

Speaker 6 (02:10:06):
I think a few of them are gonna be pretty bad.
Like I think UNLV is gonna win tonight, So you'd
get what UNLV at Notre Dame or Georgia slash Texas.
I mean, come on, that's a that's gonna be a blowout.

Speaker 12 (02:10:22):
And then like, look, I like Indiana, I really do.

Speaker 3 (02:10:27):
If they get you.

Speaker 12 (02:10:29):
Know, Alabama or whatever, it's gonna be sad.

Speaker 6 (02:10:33):
Right, So yeah, I mean there are gonna be a
few that are just ridiculous, and automatic bids are a
part of that, right, Like that's just that's the way
things are.

Speaker 3 (02:10:42):
And you know, they're not gonna change.

Speaker 6 (02:10:45):
Like I said, they got to throw some of these
conferences and conference commissioners a.

Speaker 3 (02:10:49):
Bone, and you know, they get what they need and
they're gonna get that money.

Speaker 6 (02:10:52):
But uh yeah, I think some of these first round
games they might be aesthetically pleasing because they're on home
campus stadiums, and that'll be cool for playoff games, but
you know, I would imagine that in some of these
they look a lot like those paycheck games that everybody
complains about early in September.

Speaker 3 (02:11:09):
And I mean, final one for me here is you know,
you get Ryan Day losing to Michigan for the fourth
time in a row. I know what the ad said
the other day, but not only him, but Lincoln Riley
as well. I mean, we've seen late in the cycle
firings before. Do you envision that maybe sc or Ohio State,
could you know, say Ohio State gets bounced in the

(02:11:30):
first round that finally you could have Ross by York
saying yeah, it's been real Ryan, but we're moving on.

Speaker 6 (02:11:36):
Well, I don't think with USC, although Lincoln Rightley is
the way over eight, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
I think with Ryan Day you kind of have two different,
two different camps at work. Right You have, I would think,
a relatively younger group of influencers that say, hey, look
it's the national championship.

Speaker 3 (02:11:52):
That's more important than.

Speaker 6 (02:11:53):
The rivalry, and then you have older folks to say, no, no,
no rivalry over everything. Those two have been sort of
at odds over the last three years. But if they
lose a playoff game in round one, they're gonna be
They're gonna be all kind of together, or at.

Speaker 3 (02:12:06):
Least closer together.

Speaker 6 (02:12:07):
And so it wouldn't surprise me if they lose a
playoff game, especially if it's big, especially if it's at home,
which it looks like they will be playing a home game.

Speaker 3 (02:12:16):
In less than chaos and.

Speaker 6 (02:12:17):
News so it wouldn't terribly It wouldn't surprise me terribly
if they decide to move on, because like, look, if
you're good but not great, that can only last for
so long at a place like Ohio State that at
some point you got to break through, at some point,
you got to win a national championship. And if you're
if you're close, okay, that's tolerable most of the time.

(02:12:39):
But if you're close, you never break through and you
don't beat your rival, especially in a year when your
rival can't complete a forward pass. Yeah, that change might
have to happen.

Speaker 3 (02:12:49):
Hey, final one here if you follow Barrett on Twitter
at Barrett's Lee is where you can find them. What
is this thing that you posted that they're gonna be
serving tomorrow at Mercedes Benz Stadium.

Speaker 6 (02:13:01):
It's a rack of ribs that looks like a bowl
and it's got it's got all kinds of stuff in
the middle. It's got sour cream, cheese, kettle chips, and
it's looks like a volcano and there are only one
hundred dishes of it and Texas fans and Georgia fans
get get to pick which one they want. As in

(02:13:23):
the Georgia version has Saint Louis Ribs with with a
Sweet Tea honey sauce, and then the the Texas version
is Texas Ribs with Chipotle barbecue.

Speaker 3 (02:13:36):
Do we have a do you have a calorie count
on that? More than you should have in a day.
I'm just gonna go venture that, I guess. All right,
that is Barrett's sale. Thanks so much for the time
joining us here on Sports Talk seven to ninety in Houston. Barrett,
let them know the folks know where they can find
your content.

Speaker 12 (02:13:52):
Yeah, you can download watch whatever.

Speaker 6 (02:13:54):
The College of Bossmother having covered Daily show, you can
catch it on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:13:59):
Serious. Xm uh.

Speaker 6 (02:14:00):
We'll do a Sunday morning recap show and I'm sure
that will be lively and then Collins on out Kick
basically recapping the entire weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:14:08):
All right, there you go, Barrett, thanks for the time,
appreciate it. We'll talk to you down the road. You're
the best, buddy. Thanks, you'll see you by. All right,
there you go, Barrett's lee here on such a good
talking seven ninety. He's one of my top favorite people. Hey,
even more good news if Texas fans are in Atlanta
and going to the game tomorrow. Chick fil A is
open at the stadium. Oh it's Saturday. Let's go get

(02:14:28):
you some chick fil A Mercedes Been Stadium. I can
get some chick fil A down the street, Darren Ravel,
all right, we're gonna take a quick break here on
The Matt Thomas Show with Ross without Matt Thomas. Dan
Matthews is here. We got non Florida stories coming up
in just a little bit. Anything you want to get to,
you want to talk to college football, anything you want
to react to, as far as what Barrett's Lee had
to say. Seven one three two one two five seven

(02:14:50):
ninety is the phone number. Seven one three two one
two five seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:14:55):
Matt Thomas returns on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:14:59):
Just gotta let is one role. Eventually, eventually, excuse me.
Eventually it gets there. Sometimes it takes a while, kind
of like a train. You know, we also have to
start turning and then let you get enough momentum.

Speaker 3 (02:15:13):
You know what train starts going. I'm too tired for
any of this.

Speaker 6 (02:15:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:15:18):
It was a really big fan of this song. Great cook.
I would imagine this is a great song. You know,
this is very divisive amongst the people, or at least
it has been in the past. See, there are some
people who hate it when it comes to Christmas songs.
I'm kind of like you. I'm the classics that. Yes, yes,
a lot of burl Lives don't say it. I think

(02:15:41):
I know where you're gonna go. Are you going with
Chappelle's show? Ridiculous?

Speaker 2 (02:15:50):
Dan?

Speaker 3 (02:15:50):
Are you okay? I might drink before the show today.
I might be losing it. I know, well, might be.
Maybe I'm already lost. Yeah, trying trying to get the
cheese back on the cracker is not an easy thing.
You know. You're in the woods, my friend, in the
weeds and everywhere. Speaking speaking of in the woods, that's
gonna that's gonna come up in non Florida story? Is

(02:16:12):
my non Florida? Oh, my non Florida story?

Speaker 1 (02:16:14):
You it is?

Speaker 3 (02:16:15):
You cannot believe how great of story. It's unbelievable, how
good it is?

Speaker 2 (02:16:22):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (02:16:22):
Korean girls standing in their own puke? No, that was
I did post that on it. I did see that.
When he starts talking like that, he means he hasn't
found it yet. Yeah, I know that's okay, all right?
See you thought you had a better wingman right there
in Connor's He's learned the tenor of the show. You
and Connor never get jammed up in a really sticky
situation because that guy's he he he will, he will

(02:16:45):
roll on you in a second. Oh, he is cutting
a deal like nobody's business. That plea deal is going
to be sweet. All right, whatever, that's rude, I'll roll
over on you, two, connored. He's gonna send for you
on the outside. Better watch your back. Prisons have phones too. Actually,

(02:17:08):
I don't know anybody, but thanks to Barrett Sale for
joining us in the last segment talking all things college football. So,
of course have we decided? Are we going to make
a bet on this game? For people who don't know,
Dan Matthews is a huge well LSU fan, but also
a big Georgia fan as well. I was gonna say
I dabble in red and black Georgia fandom because I mean, look,

(02:17:32):
I've said it numerous times. I spent over ten years there.
I developed a lot of really good relationships, developed a
pretty good working relationship with Mark Rick when he was
the head coach there. Because his kids are adopted, I'm
adopted so we had that you are, Yeah I didn't
know that. Yeah, yeah, so was able to develop that.
And I've got some still good friends that are on

(02:17:53):
Kirby Smart's coaching staff, including one that last night I
fired off a message and said, God luck this weekend, buddy.
I know, I know you're getting million of these and
he already will be back and said things, Man, I
appreciate it. It's so nice. Okay, Well, Georgia Bulldogs suck.
They're gonna lose and I'm just kidding. So were we
making a bet on this game or what's the deal. Yeah,
we could do that. Let's see when there's never time
for lunch. I'm on from ten to two, you're on

(02:18:14):
from two to six. You know here, inner seems like
a lot of a commitment, to be honest, No, it's
not a huge commitment.

Speaker 8 (02:18:19):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (02:18:19):
You know what, I'll buy your ticket to Wicked. Okay,
that's what we'll do to have me hate watch Wicked.
You know what, you're gonna be tapping your toes. You're
gonna secretly enjoy it. It's gonna it's gonna be the
foot that's furthest away from Yeah, I want to say
just from the previews, the CGI looks pretty cool. Did
you ever get freaked out by the Wizard of Oz
flying monkeys?

Speaker 1 (02:18:38):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:18:39):
I didn't. The only things that really freaked me out
as a kid was Stephen King's It and Candy Man,
oh and Freddy Krueger. So those are like the top three,
Damount Rushmore of things that really freaked me out when
I was a child. Wish Master was another one too. Oh,
which one was that? That was the one where, like,
you know, it's basically the whole tagline of the movie
was be careful what you wish for. That sounds vaguely familiar.

Speaker 8 (02:19:00):
No, I see.

Speaker 3 (02:19:01):
It was like a straight to straight to TV HBO.
What about the Leprechaun? Remember that guy? He was kind
of creepy, but then he was like leprechan in the hood.
It got a little bit too crazy. Leprechaun in space.
You're like, this is ridiculous. It finally was the studio execs,
with the executive producers showing up and saying you're not
even trying anymore. They basically went with like full Earnest

(02:19:23):
with the Leprechaun, like Ernest goes to camp. It was
like Leprechaun goes to band camp. It was like, what
are we doing here, Leprecaun. It was like Jason Vorhees
in space. It was like, yeah, yeah, you have somebody
on your flight manifest that's the name of Voorhees. You
better watch out for that guy. Then he starts axing
everybody up there in space. Oh yeah, here we go.
Leprechaun in the Hood was in two thousand. I didn't

(02:19:44):
I don't really remember that one. We have to go
through the Leprechaun series at some point. My god, it
got a little it got a little bit too crazy
over there, and even like Tails from the Crypt as
a kid, it was it was really freaky. But then
I remember once in college there was a buddy of
mine that had the va Chess, so we threw it
on Yeaos in college when vhss were still somewhat of
a thing, and we watched it and I was like, God,

(02:20:07):
this is goofy. It was the one where Joe Peshy
he falls for twin sisters. That sounds vaguely familiar. Yeah,
And then they ended up cut. I want to talk
more about the Leprechaon movie series. Leprechaun went through the
leprechon four was Leprechaun in space. Okay, Leprechaun in five
was Leprechaun in the Hood. Leprechaun six was Leprechaun back

(02:20:29):
to the Hood. So what was the Leprechaun's tagline? You
thought you were getting me Lucky charms. I don't remember
exacty something like that. Yeah, I don't know. It was
very bizarre when things got.

Speaker 11 (02:20:40):
Down with.

Speaker 3 (02:20:41):
Here's a pot of gold for you. Hey, the first
one starred Jennifer Anderson in nineteen ninety three. Oh, that
must have been like her breakthrough right there. Maybe. Well,
I don't know. You should anybody if they ever see
her on the streets say hey, hey, you're from the
ship from the Leprechaun. Yeah, probably not unless they're messing
with her. Okay. On that note, we're gonna take a break.
We got non Florida stories coming up here on The

(02:21:04):
Matt Thomas Show without Matt Thomas with Ross. That's me.
Dan Matthews is here, Connor McGovern is here. It is
a staple segment of the show. Well as Matt. I
love Florida stories. By the way, Matt hates them because
he thinks they're a low hanging fruit. But anyways, if
we're gonna go outside of the Florida with Florida style stories, hey,
this is a rebellious show right here. I mean this,

(02:21:25):
should we do Florida stories? This is well? I mean mine,
mine is a true non Florida story. Okay, but I
mean yeah, this is the house party when the parents
go out of town. So no rules here, okay, just
don't break, just don't break the vase. We'll still do
non Florida stories. I don't want to make Matt two upset,
but that's coming up next year on The Matt Thomas
Show with Ross. Well, Hello, welcome back to The Matt

(02:21:54):
Thomas Show with Ross without Matt Thomas. Dan Matthews here,
excuse me, Ross two point zero. Let's move on. I'm
not even bringing that up. No, relax, what was I saying?
Dan Matthews is here, I'm here, Ross Hi Ross one
point zero is here. Connormer govern here as well. We've

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All right, now, time for some non Florida stories here
on The Matt Thomas Show with Ross. All right, this
is the segment we take time out every week to
bring you some wacky stories. But the wacky stories from

(02:23:38):
Florida are banned in this segment, so you gotta go
outside of that state. And well, Dan, you seem like
you're rip briern to go for a long time with
your story, So let's go ahead and let you have
at it with your non Florida story. Yeah, that's right
here in our fair city of Houston. Home invasion suspect
climbs tree, okay, prompting swat stand off. This happened in

(02:24:01):
the twenty six hundred block of Red Road. Not even
sure where that is. It was just after six point
thirty on Tuesday night when police responded to the report
of a home invasion. According to police, when officers got there,
they saw one of two suspects fire at someone at
the home. Then by suspects took off on foot into

(02:24:22):
the woods. No one was struck by gunfire. Mine, that's good.
Police would then set up a perimeter around the woods
and then they would deploy the canines, the dogs released
the hounds. They did that once officers entered the woods.
They say that one suspect was quickly taken in the
custody because one of the dogs caught up to them,

(02:24:42):
and then they were taken to a hospital treated and
bandaged up. And then they said, all right, you're going
to the poke. The second suspect, who was armed, took
off running and ended up climbing a tree. This led
two officers having to say rolls watt swatch shows up,
hostage negotiators are there. Wow. They were giving verbal commands

(02:25:06):
four hours before finally taking the suspect into custody. Just
around at twelve thirty in the morning on Wednesday. He
was checked out by ems and then like his buddy,
take him to the poke.

Speaker 8 (02:25:18):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:25:19):
Reed Road looks like south.

Speaker 5 (02:25:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:25:24):
I've been pretty much a pure South area of the
town around this is Brookhaven or it's really big, not
far from the airport. Okay, let's just say there say
wooded areas around there. They got woods everywhere. Okay, it
was Houston, Texas. Baby, we're in the piney woods, all right,
and we know we've chopped a lot of them down
to build buildings, but there's still a lot of them standing.

(02:25:45):
We still got a good good amount of them world. Yeah,
a good amount of the old Piney Woods. Okay, thank
you Dan for your non Florida story. Economer Government, I'm
letting you go next. Okay, we'll hear the story of
Tommy Banks. He's a chef o owns two Michelin star
restaurants and a pub in northern English county of Yorkshire.
One night, a member of his staff noticed that one

(02:26:06):
of their catering vans was missing. Turns out the van
was stolen. What was in the van over two thousand,
five hundred pies. It was steak and jale turkey and
butternut squash pies intended for a Christmas market turkey and
oh there's little meat pies. Yeah, all the pies valued
over thirty two thousand dollars. Good news. The police eventually

(02:26:29):
found the van was stolen, license place and the pie
is still inside. Bad news. The pies were damaged, damaged
and had to be discarded. The article said the van
was insured, but what about all the pies that were
worth over thirty g's Does the chef gets money back
for that? I'm not sure, but yes, a pie heist
in the UK and that's my non Florida story. Wow,

(02:26:49):
they're really big. A dolen turkey pies the time of year,
their meat pies, you know, I think though, don't they
say crime goes up around Christmas time? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:26:59):
Michael Berry told Chris he did. Yeah, I wasn't listening.
Great Southern Oh okay, so they probably just wanted to
steal the van. But when you steal a van and
notice all the pies, do you do you try and
eat him?

Speaker 3 (02:27:12):
Do you eat any cash?

Speaker 2 (02:27:14):
Jason Biggs, Well he did something else with those pies
back in the day. Oh that was a what a classic?

Speaker 6 (02:27:22):
That was?

Speaker 3 (02:27:22):
All right? Anyways, let's move on. I'm gonna go with
mine non Florida story, and it's not necessarily a crime
or anything like that. But how familiar are you? Dan
and Will and' connor as well with the Champagne of
beers U Hiller highlights. It was never one of my favorites.
We gets the job done. In college though we used
to have we used there was a we used to

(02:27:43):
play a poker game and the guys would always have
a keg of high Life. So every twenty dollars you
bought in, they took two fifty and it was all
you could drink. I was, I was, I was a
maddie Guy mat Maddie Ice, not Ice, Maddie Light, Maddie Light. Yeah,
you're sick. If you're going cheap, Oh, you gotta go Keystone.
I was gonna say it was usually it was usually
that Naddy Ice tastes like charcoal. Well it was terrible,

(02:28:06):
it was nice. I'm sorry light either way. Come on, man,
I'm going Look, I'm doing the rankings right here. Keystone
one lone start, no lone star, one.

Speaker 2 (02:28:17):
Oh lone star is fantastic. Long Sorry, I still drink
Yeah Keystone.

Speaker 3 (02:28:22):
Then I'm going High Life. I'm putting Natty back in
the back of the rear. See, a lot of people
are big on the PBR. I am not a PBO's.
I feel like it's in regionally to Texas. This is
not something that pops up much. Are there you go?
There are your cheap beer rankings. Well I got Miller
High Life in the rankings, and I am pleased to
announce that Miller Life has introduced a limited edition fragrance.

(02:28:43):
It's called Dive Bar Fume. It's designed to embody the
aroma of your local dive bar. It is priced at
just sixty dollars per bottle. The unique scent promises to
evoke quote the bar counter that smells like cedar wood,
the musky of those worn in leather barstools, and the
sea salt from the basket of fries and popcorn, and

(02:29:06):
the crisp barroma when the bartender cracks open your champagne
of beers. Interesting. For just sixty dollars, it can be yours.
And apparently you said sixty yes.

Speaker 7 (02:29:17):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:29:19):
Apparently these bottles of Miller High Life Barfume are already
selling out. There's been a huge run on the bottles
of barfume. Would you like one for Christmas? I'm going
to pass. I thought that for sure. You were going
to say that it was also the aroma of cigarette smoke. Oh,
actually it's completely sold out, That's what I'm reading. They're
trying to manufacture some more and so you can get

(02:29:43):
your live bar fume via Miller High Life. That's just
sixty dollars. The chemistry that goes into that. Do you
wear Colone? I used to I'm a I'm a body
spray guy. Yeah, okay, yeah, you're married now it's fine,
affiance he tied the out official yet not yet. No,
I just I just do the quick little three three
sixty and what about you. You're a young hip happening man,

(02:30:05):
are you Are you getting using the using the colonne? Yeah,
when I'm going out, okay, all right, all right, every
day for like going to work or whatever I do
the body? Do you want some bar fume? H?

Speaker 2 (02:30:17):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:30:17):
Okay, okay, well that's fine. Does your hand like stick
to the bottle like your shoes stick to the bottom
of the floor, like, oh, that sounds disgusting. And also
if it smells like a dive bar, does it smell
like cigarette smoke too? I don't know, sixty bucks a bottle,
I think I'm gonna pass as well. It's usually the
bars that are outside the beltway are the ones that
still allow you to light up. Like there's one that

(02:30:38):
I go to that they have an actual section, like
it's behind a door that you can go sit in.
I've never once been in there. H okay, all right,
well there you go. Those are our non floras stories
here on a sports talk seven ninety. Do you pass
judgment on someone like Matt, you know, like you pass
them in the hallway here and you can totally tell

(02:30:58):
that they just went and touched of and I do
When does this happen to you? Does it happened? Often?
There's there's somebody down the hall that that I've passed,
and I'm like, it's twenty twenty four, who's still said,
isn't it it's not wax Okay, I'm just kidding. Uh hm,
you know what it's not. It's not wax out on

(02:31:19):
the I don't even know how to respond to that segment.
The back park benches, back there, the picnic benches. This
question has made me quite uncomfortable, and I'm gonna go
to break. That's gonna do it for this segment of
the man, to show what's making you uncomfortable. People smoking cigarettes? Oh,
I thought you that's not what a Dutch oven is
to me. It can have both both meanings. Hmmm, I

(02:31:43):
thought you were talking about the other Dutch over. No, no, no, no, no,
what's the what the what Dutch oven are you talking about?
I just remembered once there was one of my friends
that used to smoke and whenever he'd come in the room, Oh,
is that called the Dutch oven? And that's not what
me and my folks back in my day called the
Dutch oven. Well I know what that is too, but
there was a buddy of mine named Drew who would
say a Dutch of it anywhere. Okay, all right, time

(02:32:07):
for a break here on the Matt Thomas Show with Ross.
So we're with you until two o'clock and there is
no believe it or not. Sorry, prize Horse, but if
you want to get in, we're talking to any number
of things. Okay too, they'll call in at like three
o'clock or two. Yeah, hey, I'm here to play Believe
it or not. You're too late. The people do that.
Oh god, yeah, oh I love it. Oh you, prize Horse.

(02:32:28):
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you hated for years and eventually you heard it over
and over and you got worn down and you're like,
you know what, all right, fine, this is the jam
nothing this song is that for me? I used to
hate this song and now I'm like, dang, this is
kind of a jam I came around on it, didn't

(02:33:14):
This used to be a part of the Bill Hayter
Dances to Twitter account. Possibly enough to know where that
Bill Hayter like doing, like kind of like the dancing
to things.

Speaker 2 (02:33:28):
Yeah, okay, I imagine this is it almost kind of
looked like the Trump dance. Oh okay, a little bit.
I'll take your word for it. Welcome back to the
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(02:35:16):
Show ahead of the A Team, I was mentioning this
earlier on the show, Dan wanted to get your perspective.
Did you catch the Thursday night football game between the
Allions and the Green Bay Packers. Absolutely I did, and
I even threw it out on Twitter last night. Thursday
Night football's had some bangers this year, They've had some
good ones. I think it's a bit of a mix.
I think Amazon probably came to the table. It feels

(02:35:36):
like everybody has like, hey, stop giving us all these
crap matchups. They got rid of the rule where everybody
has to appear on once, and I think that's kind
of helped. Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean I
think that probably Bezos picked up the phone for Roger
and just said, hey, man, look like shelling out a
lot of money here. I mean, I've got my play
by play guy who's kind of on his last leg
as is, but I mean, he's going to gambling talk

(02:35:57):
here midway through the game. I can't have that. I've
got to have the third and fourth quarter actually matter. Yeah,
I think it's been very clear that Amazon and Jeff
Bez was like, Yo, come on, bro, we're showing all
this cash and al Michaels, by the way, needs to
be retired. I'm sorry, he needs to go quietly into
that good night. He sleepwalks through every game. Now, see,

(02:36:18):
you're looking at it the wrong way, like al Michaels
is doing this because he's saying, what are you gonna do?
Fire me? Well, yes, fine, then I'll sit on my millions.
I'll go play at you know, whatever country club in
LA He'll go eat it that. Yeah, he'll go eat
at that steakhouse that he's been through two five thousand
times or whatever it is, and he never orders a vegetable.
Yeah that's hey. Look, you know sometimes it's kind of

(02:36:39):
one of those things that that's the key. Like you
go to the doctor and they tell you I'm a
little bit less red meat, and then your health problems
really show up. It's like, dude, they had it right
in the sixties and seventies, smoking non filtered yeah, just
eating like absolute garbage. Yeah yeah, yeah, they live toll
like one hundred and fifteen. Well that's also what is
that called survivorship bias.

Speaker 2 (02:36:58):
The ones that didn't make it are the ones you
don't really necessarily the ones that did die from heart disease.

Speaker 9 (02:37:02):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:37:04):
But anyway, so what I found myself saying last night,
and really anytime the Lions are on is I want
Demiko Ryans maybe not to go full board Dan Campbell
going for every single fourth down, But I love the aggressiveness.
I love playing for a win. And I know it's
not the same because well, the Texans don't have the
offensive line that the Lions do arguably the best offensive

(02:37:27):
line in football. But I love the playing to win
factor from Dan Campbell. It did bite them in the
playoffs last year they went for a fourth and three.
They were in field goal range, down a field goal
and everybody got up set. It bit them last night
in the first and thirty one first and I mean
fourth and one from the third their own thirty one.
But at the end of the day, they won the game.

(02:37:48):
They went for that fourth down. They were aggressive. I
would rather my coach be too aggressive rather than too conservative.
I think you got to build up to that too.
I mean, I think that it's a you know again,
you talk about it, and he's got a lot of
trust in that offensive line for good reason, because they're
really good. And I mean with the Texans, I think
Demko kind of looks at it as that this offense

(02:38:08):
can't even get the basic stuff right. And then that's
what kind of cracks me up too, is you know,
then with them not being able to get the basic
offense right, when Bobby starts employing the gimmicks, and it's
just like, well, who knew that wasn't gonna work out, Bobby.
You can't even pick up short yardage on a third
and one when you really need, you know, that one
yard to be able to keep the drive alive. Yeah,

(02:38:30):
So I just think in general, though, I mean Joe
Mixon mentioned it. I think a few weeks ago, I
think was the Packers game that they had lost where
it just felt like they were playing rather than playing
to win, they were playing not to lose. And if
I have a criticism of Demiko Ryans, I love him
as a coach for the most part and everything that
he does, but the game management, for the most party
does a good job. But I would like to see

(02:38:50):
a little bit more aggressiveness, maybe not even jumping straight
into Dan Cabell's stratosphere, which he's like one out of
thirty two as far as most aggressive coaches in football,
but a little bit more aggressiveness I think goes a
long way. And I think I think it helps you,
especially a team where you know, excuse me, you're changing
the win probabilities from like fifty two to fifty four

(02:39:11):
percent or whatever. It's small increments, but that matters over
the course of a season. That matters if you're trying
to win playoff games. And I know, like we said,
it's bitten them before, but it also to me helps
them a lot more than it hurts.

Speaker 2 (02:39:23):
I mean, I see what you're saying too, but I
mean it's also too. You know, the number one role
in coaching in any sport, but especially football, know your personnel.
Demko is not being more aggressive because he doesn't trust,
especially his offensive personnel.

Speaker 3 (02:39:35):
There they're running live has been good. I mean, you
need a fourth and one. Joe Mixon has been one
of the better running backs in all the football.

Speaker 1 (02:39:40):
The run.

Speaker 3 (02:39:41):
The pass blocking has been terrible, but for for the
most part, the run blocking has been pretty solid. They've
been really good this year. But I think is you know,
it's also two to your point is all right, hey,
we can go for it on fourth and one and
then say we pick it up, but uh oh, somebody
wasn't lined up properly. Somebody penalty yeah, a lot, a
number of things can go wrong, like last night, on
that last fourth and one, Jared Coff fell down.

Speaker 1 (02:40:02):
See.

Speaker 3 (02:40:03):
And that's what I wondered too, is because I thought
that that if you if someone steps on you, you're contacted,
you're down, not your own teammate. Now, okay, all right, No, no, no,
he's not down. He has to be giving yourself. I
was like, I was like, wait a minute, No, that's
not down by contact. No, no, no, no, that's uh not.
I don't believe it's your own player contact. You had
to be giving yourself up or you contacted by a defender.

Speaker 2 (02:40:25):
We've we've had a lifetime this week of learning about
UH players giving themselves up, especially those qbs.

Speaker 3 (02:40:31):
Oh well, Trevor Lawrence is what you're talking about. He
gave himself up and then as he is, all share
sent him into to Mars, which, by the way, which
by the way too, you know that's the whole thing
as well. You can't tell me there wasn't gamesmanship on
the Jacksonville side of He's on IR for the season,
so then everybody could start, oh my god, see he
ended his season. He should never play again this season.

(02:40:52):
He's on he's on IR because he's undergoing left shoulders.
So yeah, because of the shoulder is why he was
How that came out about twenty minute and it's after
the Aushire news came out. Very convenient, man, How convenient.
All right, time for the show to end. That's it, Dan,
thanks for hanging out for a couple of hours. We
got Adam and Adam they're all staring at you. Appreciate you.
Thanks to Barrett Silee for coming on the show. Thanks

(02:41:14):
to Chris Gordy for hanging out the first couple of hours.
Thanks to Conomer Govern for producing all of this, and
thanks to you for listening to the show. I do
appreciate it. I will talk to you folks on Sunday,
I think on coverage for the Houston Rockets, But for.

Speaker 2 (02:41:30):
Now, it's Adam Wexler and it's Adam Planton. They call themselves.

Speaker 3 (02:41:35):
LEAVEE and their next Here on Sports Talk seven. I
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