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December 2, 2025 60 mins

Kail and Becky are joined by Enrique, the TikTok creator who shot his shot to get on the pod. He shares how he accidentally built a following by covering online drama and Teen Mom lore, and what it’s like feeling “raised by MTV.”

Kail opens up about how she really got cast on 16 & Pregnant, what was actually scripted vs. recreated, the truth about those voiceovers and reunions, and how reality TV impacted her mental health and friendships. Becky gives her honest take on watching Kail grow from peak chaos into a business-minded mom, while still staying the same unfiltered friend.

From ranking Kail’s baby dads, to dog-ashes-as-grandma-ashes karma, and a chaotic Teen Mom RV road trip pitch, this episode is equal parts behind-the-scenes tea, emotional honesty, and pure unhinged group chat energy.

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