November 9, 2025 • 27 mins
Is there something to be said for chemistry? "Partners in Passion" author David Price Francis drops by to enlighten us on how energy makes a connection, how to tap into our masculine and feminine, why sparks tend to fade, how to present the best version of ourselves, why the answers can be found in the moon and stars, and much, much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Pod Popular Podcast for the People, The.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Great Love Debate.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's the Great Love Debate, the Great Love Debate.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
It's a great loved bab Hi, Get everyone, It's Brian Howie.
Welcome to the Great Love Debate, the world's number one
dating air relationship podcast since twenty fifteen. I am back
here in the very fine studios of Pod Popular Podcasts
for the People. I am the one in Boca Raton, Florida,
and it is lovely. Somebody said to me once again,
(00:36):
you don't enough guys on your podcast. You don't have
men on your podcasts. And I'm always like, I want
somebody who has a perspective that is more interesting than mine,
that is deeper than mine, that has done more work
than mine.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So I was handed a book.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
About two weeks ago and I was like, Wow, I
need to really dive into this. Is there any chance
I can get the author?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I got the author.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
He wrote, Partners in Passion positively transform all your relationships
with the power of a high vibration energy, which sounds
very technical, but I think there's very practical in.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
There because I've read the book. David Francis, how are you.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I'm good. Thanks, Brian, good to see you.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
That accent's not from South Florida. Where are you from?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I am originally from England And.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
What brought you over here to the colonies? As are
still the colonies.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I went to Canada and founded a school, and then
I came down to New York and now Florida.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It seems to be going sound once you hit.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
New York, you always end up in Florida is where
all of us Sex New Yorkers go. You're all about
the energy and you believe that fundamentally we are not
just wired a certain way, but there are things that
attract us to each other. How did you get interested
in that? And when did you first discover that?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Absolutely right back college days, going to an esotic school
in London and learning how to see and feel energy.
So I learned how to see energy from my hands,
how to see the aura around people. I like to
call it the atmosphere around people. And that admit to
the idea of what passion actually is, like partners in Passion.
There reason it's that name is it's to do with
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any word that ends in ion is an energy word.
Congratulate ion, pass ion, hesitate, ion, because an ion. You
look it up in the dictionary. It's a positively or
negatively charged particle. So two people having a passion means
they're passing lots of energy backwards and forwards between them. Otherwise,
if there's not much energy, there's not much passion, that unlikely.
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The guy says, why should we meet again? It's like,
maybe not because there is not much passion exactly. Passion.
Passion is fundamental. So and the initial passion I call
it passion automatic almost like there's three gradations to relationships.
They look at partners in passion. That's the beginning. And
so two people can be attracted to each other. Then
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they develop a purpose between themselves. If they do, I
call that the mutually agreed purpose or a map. And
then if they're into the spiritual realm, they become partners
in evolution. That's another step. Again, it's just like three
levels to it.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, right, So early on, so chemistry is a real thing.
Early on when you feel sort of that that moment,
that magic, and it continues and it continues, but early
on it's like it it finds its level into what
I needs. But early on it's it's it's mostly physical
it's a little nervous, it's a lot of curiosity, it's
somewhat rooted in hope. It's probably got a layer of fear.
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All of those kind of things are ions within our
our bodies, minds and souls.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes, there's a lot of the ions in the move
and I look at it also that in the initial relationship,
it's kind of a testing process. If it's only skin deep,
that's twenty eight days. Skin deep goes with the sightle
of the moon. So every twenty eight days we actually
lose our skin cells. So we do we do. It's
on the back of a toothpaste tube like, oh okay,
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but it's the case sorry of skin creadth. But every
twenty eight days, our skin cells get sloughed off like
a snake, like a snake. Thankfully, if it happened all
at once.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Okay, then it'll be kind of a mess.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That would be a problem. Yes, we're saying I'm not
coming out tonight now, I'm staying there right, Yeah, but no,
it's it's happening all the time. When you're going around
the place with the vacuum where it's saying where does
all the dust come from?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It comes from us.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It comes from us.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
We're blaming the dog and the atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
When vacuum up ourselves. So the twenty eight days relationship
skin deep. That goes with the lunar cycle. Twenty eight days,
twenty eight seasons, that's the seven year itch, that's the
planetary cycle. It's like the man looks at the woman says, well,
you're not the woman I'm married, or you're not the
man I'm married. It's true. All the cells have been changed,
right except for the cells in the brain.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Is there a time in the lunar cycle that we
are more likely to attract and mate and all that?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Do we look for full moons like where.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
We tend to get more, we tend to get more lonely. Actually,
at the full moon, people tend to get a little
bit more wanting to find out, find some kind of
extra stimulation, some kind of entertainment. And that is to
do with the lunar influence. So you know what astrology
and astronomy I look at the as twin sciences. If
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you want to disprove astrology, you have to disprove the
pull of the moon, because that's astrological. You want to
disprove astrology then you have to disprove the getting a suntan.
That's astrology as you're going out and get the influence
of the sun. Just the influence of Mars and Venus.
You know, it's a quote a famous book.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
We've had them on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Those influences are a bit more subtle. So one of
them is more red, more to do with iron. One
is more to do with acid, that's the red the Mars.
The other is more copper, or to do with venus,
more to do with the nurturing aspect. So the real powers,
the red and the blue. You could look at it
like the acid and the alkali.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So these two things, they have an innate attraction to
each other. And so that's built in to our human systems.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Because you are aware of this and you study this
order every encounter, conversation, new interaction. Are you always thinking
about it? Are you always aware of it? Are you
trying to read another person or how you feel?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Always aware of the energetic aspect?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You are?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, like right now there's an energy exchange.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
What we're doing is we're finding we're finding a third power.
I think of that love is a third power. Okay,
So the man doesn't fall in love with the woman
or the woman with the man.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
They conversation has an ion, Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Exactly can they fall in love with what happens between them?
So that's the third power. So I think love is
the third force. If you think of the man like
the number one, right, the woman like the number two. Well,
there's a third power that actually is the glue that
holds them together. And if the glue isn't strong, they
come apart.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
They So I always tell people that before you can
find love, you have to define it for yourself what
it is.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
You know what you're looking for, you know what you feel.
Do you have a definition of what love is?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Oh, it would go through a seven seven stages.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Actually, which I'm sure is in the book.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Seven Phases of Love. The first level would be that
level of ionic attraction between two people. They haven't even
spoken to each other, and what actually happens is their
energy fields interact. That's why you can go into like
one hundred people in a room. And the way I
think of it, everybody's on a certain color, like it
said all blue, but you're say red, and you're standing
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in the corner another red person walks in and somehow
the eyes meet, energy flashes across the room, like I
have to talk to that person because there are on
the same frequency. So the first level of love is
attraction because of being on the same frequency, and that
would be the first thing, and then it moves on
from there and moves into love being much more something,
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which is the agreed mutual purpose that two people share.
So this would kind of move through the move through
the seven levels. The most the mostation, io, yes it does.
The most basic attraction is your sort of physical attraction.
You almost say, it's the animalistic attraction between male and female.
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That's your fundamental male female attraction. But that doesn't last.
People will sing songs about it. I love you forever
and forever, but it's over after a year. Why because
it's only short term. It's like that lunar thing.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It has to be something more substantive.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, that, and that even works at our cellular level.
Because if the love is only skin deep and it's
all based on the way the other person looks, well,
the face in the mirror is not going to look
the same after thirty.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Years, no, if not, and your eyes might not see
them the same way.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, emotional filters that can change the way people look
or how the way you feel about how they look.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Are there things people can do? Say you go out
you brought up being in a room with one hundred
people to enhance your energy or in your ability to
pick up on other people who see who is able
to be engaged with you know? Or is it just
it won't happen until you connect.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It happens when you connect. But the first thing is
being comfortable in your own skin, being authentic. Like if
you're putting on a show, the other person's going to
see the show and that they need to meet the
face behind the face. So it's actually been.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And a lot of people aren't comfortable with the face
behind the face, or they're not even sure what the
face is behind the face because they're always putting on
a show.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
A lot of people know how to hide.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And those relationships don't tend to last. Or you end
up with two people both putting on a show for
each other, and they may have a third interest that
keeps together. That's like economics, so called power couple. They'll
keep together for an energy vibration that's not particularly fine vibration,
so This is where we get to early there's seven
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different levels of vibration, and so when there's the lower vibration,
you can have two people. You can have a couple
together for crime, and that will be agreed purpose. But
it's a very low body and Clyde very low.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
But are they together because of the the rush.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
The stimulate, the gain of the crime.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
The crime is just sort of the vehicle, but they
want that adrenaline of the keeper.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Something gotten together in the first place, right then they
find that's their common denominator. You get two people together
for political purpose and they find that's their common denominator.
So this is kind of again climbing the levels. You
get two professors together. They're together because they've got an
intellectual common denominator. But when you get into the higher levels,
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you actually get to people who are able to be
natural with each other and producing more. I call it
evolutionary energy. Spirituals the word these mostly use these spiritual relationship.
It goes beyond soulmates. We get the odia of soulmates.
It's more to being spiritual kin. They're akin to each
other rather than soulmates. Soulmates is a kind of lower
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turn doesn't last. Virtual kin that can last right the
way through the life, spiritual kin, right the long lasting relationship.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
This is fascinating. I have a million questions. I'm sure
my audience do. It does too. I take a quick
break so we.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Can let our sponsors have some positive vibration here. I'm
with David Francis. We will be back right after this,
and we are back. Is there a way to change
your frequency or vibration to turn it up? Turn it
down for somebody who's introverted extroverted? Is that tie into
what you're putting out into the world.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yes. And what that comes to is, again, it's that
dynamic of being authentic, being the author of yourself. So
that's where that authentic, that word connects to being your
own author, making your own portrait. So that's to do
with the dynamic of human development, personal development, personal growth.
So if you want to attract new people in your
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life of a higher vibration, you need to lift your
own level of vibration to be able to do that.
That's where I wrote a book on relationships. But the
other book I wrote it's called Go with the Glow,
and that is about enhancing the level of vibration of yourself,
and that's the first thing to do. It's like, how
does a bird attract a mate sings its own song
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if it's not singing its own song. If you get
a blackbird pretending to be a chaffinch, right, it ain't
going to attract nothing.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
So the bird thing is some time has a level
of confidence and self awareness.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That is attractive to something else.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
So so many people and a lot of our audience
is at best wounded, at worse severely damaged by past
relationships that didn't work at hour, how do they shed
that bit of skin and put that positive energy out
so other people be attracted to it, so you're not
always leading with the fear or the pain.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, that's a key, key dynamic. That's the idea of woundology.
It's been called to people attracted and it's a valid thing.
Two people share the same wounds and they come together.
Usually that relationship lasts for as long as it takes
and to work through the wounds, and that's the reason.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
So if one works it through quicker, that's the waiting.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, but they can work through the wounds and get
to a positively healing place. If there's an understanding of
you have childhood trauma, you have pain from your divorce
or whatever, and you know, let's.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Get through this together.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You know, there's a lot of people, you know, in
the relationship space are always like you need to be
a complete person before you can attract somebody else. There's
no such thing as a complete person. I mean, we're all,
you know, bodies in motion.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
We're all working progress.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
We're all working progress.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You know, somebody said, what would you if you had
to write an autobography, what's the title of your book?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Work in progress? I agree, and you want that.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, So two people are coming together and they're prepared
and they're working. They have work in progress together. That's
the key to a long lasting, successful relationship, right, rather
than going, well, I love you as you are, don't change. Well,
that's that's really not a good basis for relationship because
you want to be working together.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
You're on a journey with them exactly. You have to
give them space.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
You also have to give them boundaries and there's ways
that you kind of go towards something together, which is
hopefully you know, a lifetime of happiness. Where do you
stand if somebody said, there says to the phrase opposites attract.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
But that is also true.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Oh, that is also true.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And why both are true? If someone as an example,
there's the idea of being attracted to someone on the
other side of the tracks, that old idea, right, So
if someone has been suppressing something in their energy field
and they've been pushing it down, then it ends up
being like a ball of energy in their field that
will attract something else that's like itself. So it will
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actually attract something which is opposite to what other people
might even expect. So it is the case opposite is attract.
And also things which are I call it same same
with each other, they attract, so both can be true.
The ones that tend to last are actually the ones
that there's a shared purpose. So they're looking together into
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a third I call it a third power. So and
it can be the most common one in relationships that
lasts for twenty eight years plus. It is children. So
the glue that holds the relationship together is the fact
that they're both focused in on the child, right, which also.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Is that's a different kind of a relationship, though there's
a coul parenting in a way, and a lot of
times the parents stay together because of the children and
a lot of the you know, the chemistry, vibration, whatever
you want to talk about is.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Either gone or different.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yes, it's different.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
You go from husband, wife to mom and dad. It's
different energy.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
You go from silver, which is like the engagement ring
is silver, the wedding ring is gold. Okay, silver is
the new fresh. Wow, this is amazing, this is just starting.
We start with a silver spoon in our mouth and
we end up with our golden years. So we go
from something which is more electric, electrifying, to something which
is you can say, more magnetic. So we go from
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the silver at the beginning of the rainbow, silver flash
at the beginning. We go through our spectrum journey of life,
and then we end up in the with the pot
of gold. And so marriage is more moving into the
Over time, you still want to keep the silver alive.
It's got more and more a magnetic hold to it.
So after twenty eight years or so, it can be
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that the children leave, the parents look at each other
and kind of go, we're not really into each other anymore, right,
and it comes apart, And there's nothing wrong with that.
It's simply the natural cycle. They've moved in different directions.
Beautiful word, because being indifferent to somebody moving in different directions,
that's actually more how I see relationships divorce than a
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big bouts of anger and all the rest of it.
When two people become indifferent to each other, that's much
more telling in terms of the relationship. Is it's kind,
it's cooling. Put it that way, a.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Very expensive English degree. I've learned more in the last
half hour here than I ever have. I didn't even
think about that that way.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
What are are there things somebody can do if they're
if they're not feeling at their best, or if they're
skeptical or fearful of getting out there and getting a relationship,
that can can change their energy to put it back
out there. Obviously, you know you want to always try
and be your best self, but that might take a
long time.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Let's let's give a practical example. Happened And when I
had a client in New York and he wanted to
be in a relationship in a single man for a
long time. And I visited him in his house and
I pointed out, I looked around the place, everything in
the place was there was a single person on the
in the artwork, there was a singular bird, little statue
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on everything was single.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So I said, well, look, party of one.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, first thing is change the take call. Put put
things that have got too man and a woman, man
and a woman. And within actually a few months, he
was in a relationship. It made a difference because he
was changing what was on the outside, right, So then
changed what was on the inside, right. I mean telling
someone just change yourself, that's a pretty hard thing to
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do because they've got to go straight within. But changed
the environment, changed the environment, and that sends a new
message back to the inside. So he started to.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Put a pair of pads things.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, everything was passed.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And so either subliminally or even overtly, people pick up
on that, like, oh, this is a this is a.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
House of two.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
He changed his energy.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, a lot of people are very used to to
being a one.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And uh I remember years ago my girlfriend, she'd been
single a long time, and we started dating, and we
were at some event and somebody was like calling, as
is anybody here alone or and her her instinct was like, oh,
I'm that person. I'm like, we've been dating for years here.
But it was just the way she was wired as
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a as a one and you have to shift over
into being a two. And a lot of ways you
can do that is sort of put your put it
out there to the universe that there's a possibility of
coupling in here.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Agreed. So especially in the West, like in the East,
they kind of say go within and change, But in
the West we're very designed to change things on the
outside and then that causes change on the inside. So
what I recommend, mostly in dealing with Western people is
start by changing things externally and you'll change it internally
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because which in reality, it starts within because you decided
to change your day core and you are starting on
the inside, then you're projecting it, then it comes back
into you and you're starting the process of making the change.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
How long have you been in America or at least Canada.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
In North America? Thirty seven years?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Thirty seven years, so maybe another best person to ask
this question because I don't know how old you are.
Is there a difference between the way the Brits engage
or getting relationships and Americans?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yes, there is, Okay, the Brits tend to be more reserved.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So that's not a stereotype, No, it's not. It's why
his stoically stiff upper the.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Stiff upper lip, which is why alcohol is so preferred
in British party because what does alcohol do breaks down
the filters inhibit ion those words and inhibit ion means
that you're kind of holding your energies back, reserved and preserved.
So then the alcohol is used to break that down.
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Now better still is get to the point in development
where you don't need to use like an external aid.
But great, so there is more reservation. But when you
actually then when that reserves another I am then both
are very much we're humans, we're human beings. But the
the outer the outer coating is more crusty in English.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
So you can say, you'd say that it won't be offensive.
So that is a true thing.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
The upper crust, it's the upper crust, is that it
is you brought up you know the Far East. Don't
know how much you've traveled over there. It's just a
different energetic vibe. When you go to any of the
major Asian cities, there's this sort of cacophony of sound
and saits and smell and everything that really change.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
You feel a different energy around you.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You're almost like a bubble floating in a waterfall that
it feels differently than a lot of their places in
the world.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Well, I would say to that that culture. Culture is
the outer coating like inside of us, right down at
the level of the spirit and the soul. We're all
fundamentally human, we have the same basic wiring. Then you
grow up in a particular culture, and that then coats
it in a different way. Learn a different language, got
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a different frequency from the ground, different religion. All of
these things then flavor the basic human proposition. But when
you really get down to it, every human has a spirit,
has a soul, has an energy field, and are wired
into masculine feminine energy in different ways.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
And we are wired to be with another. We are
wired to pair up. We are wired that way, right,
It is the way we are fundamentally. If you are
not that way, you are sort of fighting against your
own nature.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
It's built in it is.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, you know, because a lot of people now they're like,
you know, and I get this, I'd rather be alone,
you know. They look at the possibility of a good
relationship is very remote, and they're very It's a lot
of ways to entertain yourself as stimulate yourself well by
yourself now, but you.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Are fighting against the nature of your wiring. Right.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yes, what I'd say is the psycho logical is overwhelming
the biological.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I mean, I'm very interested in that idea of logic
because I'd like to say to clients, well, let's be
less psycho and more logical, right, because you know, if
the psyche is governing the logic, then you're only as
good as the psyche. So part of the journey of
development is to get more and wired into the real world.
It's the big danger of idea logical. If the idea
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is no good, then the logic is going to be
really bad. I mean it's tested against reality, it falls apart.
So some I might have their ideal person that they
think they're going to be with reality might be quite different.
Is what's the reality of what it is that they're
actually they're actually wired for, and then how do they
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match that? And the less authentic a person is, the
more trouble they've got finding it because their psychology is
overcoming the logic of reality.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Well, and you mentioned the logic a lot of this.
If on first glance it's very spiritual and woo whatever,
but the.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Way you break it down. Oh, that's why it really
does make sense.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
It really just sort of these are the building blocks
of who we are and what we want to get.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yes, which then isn't it isn't wou woo. The only
way it can appear woo woo.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Is because it's the unfamiliar.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
And our psyche has been so moved away from reality
that we then we then look at we look at
things through a lens, which is just not a real lens.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I know.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So you break up the moon and the stars and
people are like, oh, that's really out there on another planet.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
But we're on another planet.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
We're on a planet.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
We're on a planet.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And if you don't know, if you don't accept the
influence of the sun, uh huh, well then you're not
going to go with you know, you're not going to
go and get a tan in the sun. You're not
going to the seaside.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Or don't move to Florida if you don't understand the
power of the sun or the attraction of it, or
a sunset or a sunrise or a star filled sky
like those all have a primal effect on our core being.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
And what a full moon does, Like we just come
through a King tide. Why is it a king tide?
Why is it a certain time of year? Why is
it's known that kind of the equinox is a major
pull of the moon. Well, if the moon is a
powerful enough magnet to pull the entire Atlantic and Pacific Ocean,
you think it doesn't have an effect on the human
That's true.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
So do you pay attention? Do you always know what
the moon's going to be?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I keep I pay attention to it. But even in
the old days, the German farmers, they would go and
cut the cabbages for this souur kraut a full moon.
Why wasn't some kind of hocus post focused things, because
the moon will pull the sap the cabbage up, so
they get a juicy a cabbage at full moon than
they would if they did it at quarter moon. The
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same thing with the druids cut in the missiletoe. It's
like it's it's fundamental science that has been known about
for thousands of years, but only in the last couple
of hundred we lost it.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
So you know, we've lost away a lot of things.
But you know, you come with the great love to
bit you get sour kraut. Patch Pulling facts and figures.
There's a lot of stuff in this book. I could
sider all day and say, lay it all out. I
want people to get it. Tell people where they can
find you, where they can read this and all the
other stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
They can go to Amazon and it's Partners in Passion
and it is by David Price Francis. They can go
to my website which is called Energyworlds dot com. So
just go to Energyworlds dot com can purchase the copy there.
And there's also the other book I wrote called Go
with the Glow, which is about how to overcome the
major obstacles to personal growth and development. Like pinpointed nine
(25:59):
major obstacles. I call it the overwhelmed syndrome, the fragmented syndrome,
all of which get in the way of affective dating
because if you're fragmented and overwhelmed, it's pretty hard to
have a sound platform for a relationship. So personal growth
goes then with finding the appropriate other. So both these
books are available.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
This was great, This is fascinating.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I always say our job here at the Great Love
Debate is to raise questions and hope to find answers.
I think we found some answers, and I think you
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Speaker 2 (27:14):
It's a great love to be
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Great Love Debate.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's the Great Love Debate, the Great Love Debate.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
It's a great loved bab Hi, Get everyone, It's Brian Howie.
Welcome to the Great Love Debate, the world's number one
dating air relationship podcast since twenty fifteen. I am back
here in the very fine studios of Pod Popular Podcasts
for the People. I am the one in Boca Raton, Florida,
and it is lovely. Somebody said to me once again,
(00:36):
you don't enough guys on your podcast. You don't have
men on your podcasts. And I'm always like, I want
somebody who has a perspective that is more interesting than mine,
that is deeper than mine, that has done more work
than mine.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So I was handed a book.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
About two weeks ago and I was like, Wow, I
need to really dive into this. Is there any chance
I can get the author?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I got the author.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
He wrote, Partners in Passion positively transform all your relationships
with the power of a high vibration energy, which sounds
very technical, but I think there's very practical in.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
There because I've read the book. David Francis, how are you.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I'm good. Thanks, Brian, good to see you.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
That accent's not from South Florida. Where are you from?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I am originally from England And.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
What brought you over here to the colonies? As are
still the colonies.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I went to Canada and founded a school, and then
I came down to New York and now Florida.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It seems to be going sound once you hit.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
New York, you always end up in Florida is where
all of us Sex New Yorkers go. You're all about
the energy and you believe that fundamentally we are not
just wired a certain way, but there are things that
attract us to each other. How did you get interested
in that? And when did you first discover that?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Absolutely right back college days, going to an esotic school
in London and learning how to see and feel energy.
So I learned how to see energy from my hands,
how to see the aura around people. I like to
call it the atmosphere around people. And that admit to
the idea of what passion actually is, like partners in Passion.
There reason it's that name is it's to do with
(02:06):
any word that ends in ion is an energy word.
Congratulate ion, pass ion, hesitate, ion, because an ion. You
look it up in the dictionary. It's a positively or
negatively charged particle. So two people having a passion means
they're passing lots of energy backwards and forwards between them. Otherwise,
if there's not much energy, there's not much passion, that unlikely.
(02:29):
The guy says, why should we meet again? It's like,
maybe not because there is not much passion exactly. Passion.
Passion is fundamental. So and the initial passion I call
it passion automatic almost like there's three gradations to relationships.
They look at partners in passion. That's the beginning. And
so two people can be attracted to each other. Then
(02:51):
they develop a purpose between themselves. If they do, I
call that the mutually agreed purpose or a map. And
then if they're into the spiritual realm, they become partners
in evolution. That's another step. Again, it's just like three
levels to it.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, right, So early on, so chemistry is a real thing.
Early on when you feel sort of that that moment,
that magic, and it continues and it continues, but early
on it's like it it finds its level into what
I needs. But early on it's it's it's mostly physical
it's a little nervous, it's a lot of curiosity, it's
somewhat rooted in hope. It's probably got a layer of fear.
(03:28):
All of those kind of things are ions within our
our bodies, minds and souls.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes, there's a lot of the ions in the move
and I look at it also that in the initial relationship,
it's kind of a testing process. If it's only skin deep,
that's twenty eight days. Skin deep goes with the sightle
of the moon. So every twenty eight days we actually
lose our skin cells. So we do we do. It's
on the back of a toothpaste tube like, oh okay,
(03:56):
but it's the case sorry of skin creadth. But every
twenty eight days, our skin cells get sloughed off like
a snake, like a snake. Thankfully, if it happened all
at once.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Okay, then it'll be kind of a mess.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That would be a problem. Yes, we're saying I'm not
coming out tonight now, I'm staying there right, Yeah, but no,
it's it's happening all the time. When you're going around
the place with the vacuum where it's saying where does
all the dust come from?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It comes from us.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It comes from us.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
We're blaming the dog and the atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
When vacuum up ourselves. So the twenty eight days relationship
skin deep. That goes with the lunar cycle. Twenty eight days,
twenty eight seasons, that's the seven year itch, that's the
planetary cycle. It's like the man looks at the woman says, well,
you're not the woman I'm married, or you're not the
man I'm married. It's true. All the cells have been changed,
right except for the cells in the brain.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Is there a time in the lunar cycle that we
are more likely to attract and mate and all that?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Do we look for full moons like where.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
We tend to get more, we tend to get more lonely. Actually,
at the full moon, people tend to get a little
bit more wanting to find out, find some kind of
extra stimulation, some kind of entertainment. And that is to
do with the lunar influence. So you know what astrology
and astronomy I look at the as twin sciences. If
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you want to disprove astrology, you have to disprove the
pull of the moon, because that's astrological. You want to
disprove astrology then you have to disprove the getting a suntan.
That's astrology as you're going out and get the influence
of the sun. Just the influence of Mars and Venus.
You know, it's a quote a famous book.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
We've had them on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Those influences are a bit more subtle. So one of
them is more red, more to do with iron. One
is more to do with acid, that's the red the Mars.
The other is more copper, or to do with venus,
more to do with the nurturing aspect. So the real powers,
the red and the blue. You could look at it
like the acid and the alkali.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So these two things, they have an innate attraction to
each other. And so that's built in to our human systems.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Because you are aware of this and you study this
order every encounter, conversation, new interaction. Are you always thinking
about it? Are you always aware of it? Are you
trying to read another person or how you feel?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Always aware of the energetic aspect?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You are?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, like right now there's an energy exchange.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
What we're doing is we're finding we're finding a third power.
I think of that love is a third power. Okay,
So the man doesn't fall in love with the woman
or the woman with the man.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
They conversation has an ion, Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Exactly can they fall in love with what happens between them?
So that's the third power. So I think love is
the third force. If you think of the man like
the number one, right, the woman like the number two. Well,
there's a third power that actually is the glue that
holds them together. And if the glue isn't strong, they
come apart.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
They So I always tell people that before you can
find love, you have to define it for yourself what
it is.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
You know what you're looking for, you know what you feel.
Do you have a definition of what love is?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Oh, it would go through a seven seven stages.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Actually, which I'm sure is in the book.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Seven Phases of Love. The first level would be that
level of ionic attraction between two people. They haven't even
spoken to each other, and what actually happens is their
energy fields interact. That's why you can go into like
one hundred people in a room. And the way I
think of it, everybody's on a certain color, like it
said all blue, but you're say red, and you're standing
(07:26):
in the corner another red person walks in and somehow
the eyes meet, energy flashes across the room, like I
have to talk to that person because there are on
the same frequency. So the first level of love is
attraction because of being on the same frequency, and that
would be the first thing, and then it moves on
from there and moves into love being much more something,
(07:47):
which is the agreed mutual purpose that two people share.
So this would kind of move through the move through
the seven levels. The most the mostation, io, yes it does.
The most basic attraction is your sort of physical attraction.
You almost say, it's the animalistic attraction between male and female.
(08:08):
That's your fundamental male female attraction. But that doesn't last.
People will sing songs about it. I love you forever
and forever, but it's over after a year. Why because
it's only short term. It's like that lunar thing.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It has to be something more substantive.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, that, and that even works at our cellular level.
Because if the love is only skin deep and it's
all based on the way the other person looks, well,
the face in the mirror is not going to look
the same after thirty.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Years, no, if not, and your eyes might not see
them the same way.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, emotional filters that can change the way people look
or how the way you feel about how they look.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Are there things people can do? Say you go out
you brought up being in a room with one hundred
people to enhance your energy or in your ability to
pick up on other people who see who is able
to be engaged with you know? Or is it just
it won't happen until you connect.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It happens when you connect. But the first thing is
being comfortable in your own skin, being authentic. Like if
you're putting on a show, the other person's going to
see the show and that they need to meet the
face behind the face. So it's actually been.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And a lot of people aren't comfortable with the face
behind the face, or they're not even sure what the
face is behind the face because they're always putting on
a show.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
A lot of people know how to hide.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And those relationships don't tend to last. Or you end
up with two people both putting on a show for
each other, and they may have a third interest that
keeps together. That's like economics, so called power couple. They'll
keep together for an energy vibration that's not particularly fine vibration,
so This is where we get to early there's seven
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different levels of vibration, and so when there's the lower vibration,
you can have two people. You can have a couple
together for crime, and that will be agreed purpose. But
it's a very low body and Clyde very low.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
But are they together because of the the rush.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
The stimulate, the gain of the crime.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
The crime is just sort of the vehicle, but they
want that adrenaline of the keeper.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Something gotten together in the first place, right then they
find that's their common denominator. You get two people together
for political purpose and they find that's their common denominator.
So this is kind of again climbing the levels. You
get two professors together. They're together because they've got an
intellectual common denominator. But when you get into the higher levels,
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you actually get to people who are able to be
natural with each other and producing more. I call it
evolutionary energy. Spirituals the word these mostly use these spiritual relationship.
It goes beyond soulmates. We get the odia of soulmates.
It's more to being spiritual kin. They're akin to each
other rather than soulmates. Soulmates is a kind of lower
(10:57):
turn doesn't last. Virtual kin that can last right the
way through the life, spiritual kin, right the long lasting relationship.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
This is fascinating. I have a million questions. I'm sure
my audience do. It does too. I take a quick
break so we.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Can let our sponsors have some positive vibration here. I'm
with David Francis. We will be back right after this,
and we are back. Is there a way to change
your frequency or vibration to turn it up? Turn it
down for somebody who's introverted extroverted? Is that tie into
what you're putting out into the world.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yes. And what that comes to is, again, it's that
dynamic of being authentic, being the author of yourself. So
that's where that authentic, that word connects to being your
own author, making your own portrait. So that's to do
with the dynamic of human development, personal development, personal growth.
So if you want to attract new people in your
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life of a higher vibration, you need to lift your
own level of vibration to be able to do that.
That's where I wrote a book on relationships. But the
other book I wrote it's called Go with the Glow,
and that is about enhancing the level of vibration of yourself,
and that's the first thing to do. It's like, how
does a bird attract a mate sings its own song
(12:18):
if it's not singing its own song. If you get
a blackbird pretending to be a chaffinch, right, it ain't
going to attract nothing.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
So the bird thing is some time has a level
of confidence and self awareness.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That is attractive to something else.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
So so many people and a lot of our audience
is at best wounded, at worse severely damaged by past
relationships that didn't work at hour, how do they shed
that bit of skin and put that positive energy out
so other people be attracted to it, so you're not
always leading with the fear or the pain.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, that's a key, key dynamic. That's the idea of woundology.
It's been called to people attracted and it's a valid thing.
Two people share the same wounds and they come together.
Usually that relationship lasts for as long as it takes
and to work through the wounds, and that's the reason.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
So if one works it through quicker, that's the waiting.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, but they can work through the wounds and get
to a positively healing place. If there's an understanding of
you have childhood trauma, you have pain from your divorce
or whatever, and you know, let's.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Get through this together.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You know, there's a lot of people, you know, in
the relationship space are always like you need to be
a complete person before you can attract somebody else. There's
no such thing as a complete person. I mean, we're all,
you know, bodies in motion.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
We're all working progress.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
We're all working progress.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You know, somebody said, what would you if you had
to write an autobography, what's the title of your book?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Work in progress? I agree, and you want that.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, So two people are coming together and they're prepared
and they're working. They have work in progress together. That's
the key to a long lasting, successful relationship, right, rather
than going, well, I love you as you are, don't change. Well,
that's that's really not a good basis for relationship because
you want to be working together.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
You're on a journey with them exactly. You have to
give them space.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
You also have to give them boundaries and there's ways
that you kind of go towards something together, which is
hopefully you know, a lifetime of happiness. Where do you
stand if somebody said, there says to the phrase opposites attract.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
But that is also true.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Oh, that is also true.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And why both are true? If someone as an example,
there's the idea of being attracted to someone on the
other side of the tracks, that old idea, right, So
if someone has been suppressing something in their energy field
and they've been pushing it down, then it ends up
being like a ball of energy in their field that
will attract something else that's like itself. So it will
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actually attract something which is opposite to what other people
might even expect. So it is the case opposite is attract.
And also things which are I call it same same
with each other, they attract, so both can be true.
The ones that tend to last are actually the ones
that there's a shared purpose. So they're looking together into
(15:06):
a third I call it a third power. So and
it can be the most common one in relationships that
lasts for twenty eight years plus. It is children. So
the glue that holds the relationship together is the fact
that they're both focused in on the child, right, which also.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Is that's a different kind of a relationship, though there's
a coul parenting in a way, and a lot of
times the parents stay together because of the children and
a lot of the you know, the chemistry, vibration, whatever
you want to talk about is.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Either gone or different.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yes, it's different.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
You go from husband, wife to mom and dad. It's
different energy.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
You go from silver, which is like the engagement ring
is silver, the wedding ring is gold. Okay, silver is
the new fresh. Wow, this is amazing, this is just starting.
We start with a silver spoon in our mouth and
we end up with our golden years. So we go
from something which is more electric, electrifying, to something which
is you can say, more magnetic. So we go from
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the silver at the beginning of the rainbow, silver flash
at the beginning. We go through our spectrum journey of life,
and then we end up in the with the pot
of gold. And so marriage is more moving into the
Over time, you still want to keep the silver alive.
It's got more and more a magnetic hold to it.
So after twenty eight years or so, it can be
(16:23):
that the children leave, the parents look at each other
and kind of go, we're not really into each other anymore, right,
and it comes apart, And there's nothing wrong with that.
It's simply the natural cycle. They've moved in different directions.
Beautiful word, because being indifferent to somebody moving in different directions,
that's actually more how I see relationships divorce than a
(16:46):
big bouts of anger and all the rest of it.
When two people become indifferent to each other, that's much
more telling in terms of the relationship. Is it's kind,
it's cooling. Put it that way, a.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Very expensive English degree. I've learned more in the last
half hour here than I ever have. I didn't even
think about that that way.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
What are are there things somebody can do if they're
if they're not feeling at their best, or if they're
skeptical or fearful of getting out there and getting a relationship,
that can can change their energy to put it back
out there. Obviously, you know you want to always try
and be your best self, but that might take a
long time.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Let's let's give a practical example. Happened And when I
had a client in New York and he wanted to
be in a relationship in a single man for a
long time. And I visited him in his house and
I pointed out, I looked around the place, everything in
the place was there was a single person on the
in the artwork, there was a singular bird, little statue
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on everything was single.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So I said, well, look, party of one.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, first thing is change the take call. Put put
things that have got too man and a woman, man
and a woman. And within actually a few months, he
was in a relationship. It made a difference because he
was changing what was on the outside, right, So then
changed what was on the inside, right. I mean telling
someone just change yourself, that's a pretty hard thing to
(18:09):
do because they've got to go straight within. But changed
the environment, changed the environment, and that sends a new
message back to the inside. So he started to.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Put a pair of pads things.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, everything was passed.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And so either subliminally or even overtly, people pick up
on that, like, oh, this is a this is a.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
House of two.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
He changed his energy.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, a lot of people are very used to to
being a one.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And uh I remember years ago my girlfriend, she'd been
single a long time, and we started dating, and we
were at some event and somebody was like calling, as
is anybody here alone or and her her instinct was like, oh,
I'm that person. I'm like, we've been dating for years here.
But it was just the way she was wired as
(18:55):
a as a one and you have to shift over
into being a two. And a lot of ways you
can do that is sort of put your put it
out there to the universe that there's a possibility of
coupling in here.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Agreed. So especially in the West, like in the East,
they kind of say go within and change, But in
the West we're very designed to change things on the
outside and then that causes change on the inside. So
what I recommend, mostly in dealing with Western people is
start by changing things externally and you'll change it internally
(19:26):
because which in reality, it starts within because you decided
to change your day core and you are starting on
the inside, then you're projecting it, then it comes back
into you and you're starting the process of making the change.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
How long have you been in America or at least Canada.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
In North America? Thirty seven years?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Thirty seven years, so maybe another best person to ask
this question because I don't know how old you are.
Is there a difference between the way the Brits engage
or getting relationships and Americans?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yes, there is, Okay, the Brits tend to be more reserved.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So that's not a stereotype, No, it's not. It's why
his stoically stiff upper the.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Stiff upper lip, which is why alcohol is so preferred
in British party because what does alcohol do breaks down
the filters inhibit ion those words and inhibit ion means
that you're kind of holding your energies back, reserved and preserved.
So then the alcohol is used to break that down.
(20:27):
Now better still is get to the point in development
where you don't need to use like an external aid.
But great, so there is more reservation. But when you
actually then when that reserves another I am then both
are very much we're humans, we're human beings. But the
the outer the outer coating is more crusty in English.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
So you can say, you'd say that it won't be offensive.
So that is a true thing.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
The upper crust, it's the upper crust, is that it
is you brought up you know the Far East. Don't
know how much you've traveled over there. It's just a
different energetic vibe. When you go to any of the
major Asian cities, there's this sort of cacophony of sound
and saits and smell and everything that really change.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
You feel a different energy around you.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You're almost like a bubble floating in a waterfall that
it feels differently than a lot of their places in
the world.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Well, I would say to that that culture. Culture is
the outer coating like inside of us, right down at
the level of the spirit and the soul. We're all
fundamentally human, we have the same basic wiring. Then you
grow up in a particular culture, and that then coats
it in a different way. Learn a different language, got
(21:39):
a different frequency from the ground, different religion. All of
these things then flavor the basic human proposition. But when
you really get down to it, every human has a spirit,
has a soul, has an energy field, and are wired
into masculine feminine energy in different ways.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
And we are wired to be with another. We are
wired to pair up. We are wired that way, right,
It is the way we are fundamentally. If you are
not that way, you are sort of fighting against your
own nature.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
It's built in it is.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, you know, because a lot of people now they're like,
you know, and I get this, I'd rather be alone,
you know. They look at the possibility of a good
relationship is very remote, and they're very It's a lot
of ways to entertain yourself as stimulate yourself well by
yourself now, but you.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Are fighting against the nature of your wiring. Right.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yes, what I'd say is the psycho logical is overwhelming
the biological.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I mean, I'm very interested in that idea of logic
because I'd like to say to clients, well, let's be
less psycho and more logical, right, because you know, if
the psyche is governing the logic, then you're only as
good as the psyche. So part of the journey of
development is to get more and wired into the real world.
It's the big danger of idea logical. If the idea
(22:53):
is no good, then the logic is going to be
really bad. I mean it's tested against reality, it falls apart.
So some I might have their ideal person that they
think they're going to be with reality might be quite different.
Is what's the reality of what it is that they're
actually they're actually wired for, and then how do they
(23:13):
match that? And the less authentic a person is, the
more trouble they've got finding it because their psychology is
overcoming the logic of reality.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Well, and you mentioned the logic a lot of this.
If on first glance it's very spiritual and woo whatever,
but the.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Way you break it down. Oh, that's why it really
does make sense.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
It really just sort of these are the building blocks
of who we are and what we want to get.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yes, which then isn't it isn't wou woo. The only
way it can appear woo woo.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Is because it's the unfamiliar.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
And our psyche has been so moved away from reality
that we then we then look at we look at
things through a lens, which is just not a real lens.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I know.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So you break up the moon and the stars and
people are like, oh, that's really out there on another planet.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
But we're on another planet.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
We're on a planet.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
We're on a planet.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And if you don't know, if you don't accept the
influence of the sun, uh huh, well then you're not
going to go with you know, you're not going to
go and get a tan in the sun. You're not
going to the seaside.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Or don't move to Florida if you don't understand the
power of the sun or the attraction of it, or
a sunset or a sunrise or a star filled sky
like those all have a primal effect on our core being.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
And what a full moon does, Like we just come
through a King tide. Why is it a king tide?
Why is it a certain time of year? Why is
it's known that kind of the equinox is a major
pull of the moon. Well, if the moon is a
powerful enough magnet to pull the entire Atlantic and Pacific Ocean,
you think it doesn't have an effect on the human
That's true.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
So do you pay attention? Do you always know what
the moon's going to be?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I keep I pay attention to it. But even in
the old days, the German farmers, they would go and
cut the cabbages for this souur kraut a full moon.
Why wasn't some kind of hocus post focused things, because
the moon will pull the sap the cabbage up, so
they get a juicy a cabbage at full moon than
they would if they did it at quarter moon. The
(25:10):
same thing with the druids cut in the missiletoe. It's
like it's it's fundamental science that has been known about
for thousands of years, but only in the last couple
of hundred we lost it.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
So you know, we've lost away a lot of things.
But you know, you come with the great love to
bit you get sour kraut. Patch Pulling facts and figures.
There's a lot of stuff in this book. I could
sider all day and say, lay it all out. I
want people to get it. Tell people where they can
find you, where they can read this and all the
other stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
They can go to Amazon and it's Partners in Passion
and it is by David Price Francis. They can go
to my website which is called Energyworlds dot com. So
just go to Energyworlds dot com can purchase the copy there.
And there's also the other book I wrote called Go
with the Glow, which is about how to overcome the
major obstacles to personal growth and development. Like pinpointed nine
(25:59):
major obstacles. I call it the overwhelmed syndrome, the fragmented syndrome,
all of which get in the way of affective dating
because if you're fragmented and overwhelmed, it's pretty hard to
have a sound platform for a relationship. So personal growth
goes then with finding the appropriate other. So both these
books are available.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
This was great, This is fascinating.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I always say our job here at the Great Love
Debate is to raise questions and hope to find answers.
I think we found some answers, and I think you
do have some answers here. Thank you for joining me
as far as us, like, share, follow, Please review this
podcast in the After over five hundred episodes of the show,
your podcast still mean a lot to me and in
the podcasting ecosystem. Shoot us an email Great Love Debate
(26:43):
at gmail dot com. If you got a question for me,
a question for David, we'll pass it all along. Go
to Greatlovedebate dot com. There may be a surprise for
you in a new year. We may be doing a
live show or two or three, because, as always at
the Great Love Debate, we never stopped making love.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
To see you next time, the Great Love Debate. It's
the Great Love Debate, the Great Love Debates.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
It's a great love to be
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