Pro-Life Advocates Say "Decline to Sign"

Sarah and Dan present their problems with a petition drive that would create a state constitutional amendment on a women's right to choose.  After a lot of great conversation about that, I move on to the REAL outrages in society: Girls in star-spangled outfits, CBS cutting off the Piano Man, and more.

Episode Transcript

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Scott vordiees anytime you're out in thestreets and someone approaches you with the clipboard
and says, are you a registeredvoter in Douglas County? Is anyone else
sending any land speed records? Torun as fast as you can? The
other way like, I'm trying togo to the Journey concert? What makes
you think I want to talk toyou right now? My favorite is when

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they say are you a registered voterin Douglas County? Yes? I am?
Can I get about three fitty,Like, oh my gosh, it's
a homeless person paanhandling. So younever know what you're going to come up
with against. But there are certainlya lot of people out with petitions,
and you got them on both sidesof one of the most important issues of

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our time, and that is thetopic of abortion, which, as I've
said a number of times, probablymy least favorite conversational topic on the radio
because everyone pretty much has their opinion. You're not going to change anyone's mind,
and people just love to set uptheir encampments on both sides and just

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fire at each other. But whenyou have issues like this that potentially could
make the ballot in November. It'svery important to understand what it is you're
signing, as these petitions are outhere, and to talk more about this
from the pro life side of thatspectrum. We've got two guests in the

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studio, Sarah Luise Peterson is hereand Sarah, thank you very much for
being here with us. Good morning. So glad to be here. Thank
you, Scott, and you broughta man with you. And everything I've
heard is that women love to betold what to do on the topic of
women's health by men. That's whatpeople tell me. So Dan Witt is
here, Dan welcome, Thank you, glad to be here. I hope

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you're fluent in sarcasm, but Ithink so. Guys will first of all,
do you it's not my understanding thatyou represent any particular group necessarily in
this case, we have our citizensand Nebraska hats on that we're citizens of
Nebraska. Okay, got it.That's a particular group, citizens of Nebraska.

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There is an organization called the ProtectOur Rights Campaign, and here's the
statement that goes out there when you'reapproached by the people with the clipboards,
says, the object of this petitionis to amend the Nebraska Constitution to provide
all persons the fundamental right to abortion, which is good because, as I

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understand it, a lot of menare getting pregnant and having babies now,
So to specifically provide this for allpersons, this is great. The object
of this petition is to amend theNebraska Constitution to provide all persons the fundamental
right to abortion without interference from thestate or its political subdivisions until fetal viability,

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which is the point, and pregnancywhen in the professional judgment of the
patient's healthcare practitioner, there is asignificant likelyhood of the fetuses sustained survival outside
the uterus without the application of extraordinarymedical measures or when needed to protect the
life or health of the pregnant patient. What is our thought about this wording

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right? And so what I wantto do. What we want to do
today is tell you what this reallysays, because it's deceptive and vague language,
and then why it's horrific in howto fight it, and when it
talks about pregnant persons. Scott,one of the problems with that is that
it leaves it open for a thirteenyear old girl, fourteen year old girl
to have an abortion and it's withoutparental knowledge or rental consent. Now that's

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the reason it doesn't say that inthe petition, right. But people have
looked at this language, including courtcases in other places, and when it
says that they want to protect thelife of the health life or health of
the pregnant patient, courts have saidthat the health could include an exception of

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emotional, physical, psychological or I'msorry, emotional psychological, or familiar well,
familial I can talk today familial wellbeing. So you could say,
well, I have anxiety, orI don't have enough money, or I
have just this really really bad ailment. That's kind of vague, and so
the abortionist would say, yes,you can have the abortion right. There's

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been a lot of conversation and thisI'm sure has got a number of court
cases attached to it when talking aboutthe life of the mother, because this
is the one that I think anyone, regardless of political stripes and affiliation,
says, yes, if the lifeof the mother is in danger and you
have to perform a procedure to beable to save the woman's life, by

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all means you've got to do it. I mean, everyone's in favor of
But then you start attaching what you'retalking about, Sarah, Like if the
woman says like, well, ifI have to bear this pregnancy to term,
my mental health might be such thatI don't know what I am gonna
do, And suddenly that becomes apotential out there for life of the mother,

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which is I think, well outsidethe boundaries of what people are thinking
about when you talk about like froma life of a mother being in danger
due to the pregnancy, not froma mental health standpoint, right, And
I want to just mention that it'snever okay to kill a baby. It's
never okay to kill a baby.The life of the mother argument is actually
a non starter. If you talkyou could talk to five you could talk

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to five hundred ob GYNs, andthey would tell you there's not ever an
instant. I mean, there couldbe one in a million, but there's
not ever an instance where a doctorwould say, oh my, in order
to save this mother, I haveto kill the baby. Now. I
see a lot of movies and TVshows where this is a plot point,
but in real life, now,yes, one in a million. Has

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this ever happened? Of course ithas. But this is what people say
when they say, well, youknow this could happen. I saw it
in a Lifetime movie, right,And what they're seeing is the extreme people
who are pro abortion like to usethat argument in order to justify elective abortion.
Abortion because I don't want to havea child, I don't like the

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sex, I'm too busy, Iwant to finish school, or those kinds
of things, or a crisis.Women who have abortions, nine times out
of ten are in crisis. Theydon't have a job, they don't have
a place to live, they needmoney. They're being coerced or forced.
That's a big thing. Many womenhaving abortions are coerced or forced. But

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real quick back to the life ofthe mother. The doctor who is helping
the mother in terms of the deliveryor talking about something that might be a
health concern, they can save both. They help the mother with their health
concern, they help the baby,they deliver the baby early, they get

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the baby care and the nick you. So it's not a really an argument
for abortion. That's a fair pointhere, Dan Well. Where I'd like
to jump in here is with justthe basic premise of abortion. To start
with, so much dishonesty in thehuman family psyche these days, so much

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not facing the facts, the scientifictruth. If we're not going to be
honest when we think about abortion,when we're not going to be honest about
when life begins, this ballot initiativeis not honest language, it's not honest
concern for the mother and the child. It's all about are we going to

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face the truth? Are we goingto face the facts, the scientific facts
of when life begins, that thatlife is precious, that it needs to
be protected. We've gone way downthe road in recent decades, in the
last fifty years, the road ofdishonest evaluation, dishonest conscience considerations. If

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we're not going to be honest,we're not going to face the scientific facts.
We got problems. We obviously haveproblems. People say all the time,
well, if you're trying to legislatemorality, good luck to you.
It's tough to do. Society isdifferent today than it used to be.
Are you talking about like we needto pass laws to force people to be

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better human beings on every single front. No, I'm talking about just one
front on the life issue. Whetherit's the elderly that suffer from dementia,
or whether it's a disabled child,whatever it might be whether it's an unborn
child from the moment of conception.We have to be honest about the science,

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the facts and stand up for allof these lives. Our guests in
the studio Sarah Luise Peterson and DanWitt, and we're talking about a pro
choice petition that is before voters hereacross the state for signatures right now,
could be on the ballot in Novemberand again reading this statement, and Sarah

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and Dan are of the pro lifethought here, but this pro choice petition
says, the object of this petitionis to amend the Nebraska Constitution and provide
all persons the fundamental right to abortionwithout interference from the state or its political
subdivisions until fetal viability, which isthe point in pregnancy when in the professional

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judgment of the patient's healthcare practitioner,there is a significant likelihood of the fetuses
sustained survival outside the uterus without theapplication of extraordinary medical measures or when needed
to protect the life or health ofthe pregnant patient. Now, just to
note here, as we were talkingabout life of the mother, says life
or health of the pregnantation. That'sincredibly vague. But the phrase I wanted

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to key in on here, Sarah, fetal viability. This seems to suggest
that, you know, you canchoose to have an abortion up until that
kid's ready to walk out in itsown power, wearing a dinner jacket.
That's a way to excribe describe it. Very nice, very nice guy.
That's how our kids were born.Oh, yes, I do want formality

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in all things. You know,we dress up for dinner at our house.
Yes, that's right. Don't comeout here wearing no clothes. I
mean, dress up a little bitand then nice china every day. It's
literally your birthday. You'll class itup. So yeah, my daughter had
a ball gown on classy, veryclassy. That's right, you wear tie.
Fetal viability. What does this mean? Well, that's one of the
problems with this ballot initiative is thatit is vague and it is deceptive in

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its wording, and that in andof itself is the starting point for making
it what I call terrific. Now, fetal viability is a difficult thing to
define, especially because it has changed. When Roe v. Wade was passed
in or put down by the SupremeCourt in nineteen seventy three. Fetal viability

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was a lot longer in the pregnancy. Now we have babies who with this
amazing healthcare and the doctors and nurseswho are valiant can take care of babies.
I think about twenty three weeks nowis the part that's about the point
that they're viable when they have thewonderful medical intervations. That's about halfway through

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a pregnancy. Pregnancy is forty weeks, give or take. Sometimes gals go
at thirty nine thirty eight. Soif they can be viable at twenty three
twenty four weeks, that's when somelate term abortions occur. And so to
say that, you know, I'mgoing to have an abortion in shrined by

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the way, this would be enshrinedin the Nebraska state constitution. This is
a change of our constitution in thisstate. That's a big deal. And
if you think about viability, theywould say in part of this. The
example that I've seen by people whoare reviewing this is that they would say,

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well, if this baby has togo into the NICKU for four days
to help their lungs finished developing,or maybe they just have a small issue
and they're going to be in theNICKU for two days before they go home.
This petition in those behind it say, well, that's extraordinary measures.
Now, Scott, that is notan extraordinary measure if you talk to a
nurse at the or a doctor.Yeah, this is part of all of

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the vague phrasing in this. Andwhen you're talking about extraordinary medical measures or
the professional judgment of the patient's healthcarepractitioner, that could be as wildly different
from one doctor to the next.Correct. What is extraordinary in terms of
medical measure to one person might notbe to another doctor. Correct. No,

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there's no goal posts on this,whereas right now in Nebraska abortions are
banned, passed twelve weeks in mostcases. That's the law in Nebraska right
now. Is that too far,Let's start, let's start trying to figure
out goalposts and timeline. Ok.Here, in my opinion and a lot
of people's opinion, in the prolife aarena conception is the beginning of life

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when the spur meets the egg.At that moment, that's a life,
that is the baby. That iswhen life begins. And scientifically and from
the people that are biologists, thatis confirmed when life begins. Also at
that moment, Scot that little babyhas all the DNA for that baby's children

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and grandchildren. So you're saying thatthe morning after pill it should be an
illegal abortion in Nebraska. Yes,you're allowed to have that opinion. Yes,
a lot of people say that isway too extreme. And once you
start off as you know, that'sour starting point, then you can't have
that conversation anymore because you know,you put this up to a vote to

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the people or any medical standards,no one's going to go along with that.
I understand that view, and Ican be respectful of that view.
I am respectful of that view.The problem is where do you draw the
line. Do you say, oncethe baby's implanted in the uterus, which
actually takes about seven days. Doyou say once the baby is a month

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old? Do you say, whenthe heartbeat starts, which is approximately five
to six weeks, it changes,you know, it fluctuates there. Do
you say when the baby has youknow, the brain starts having brain waves.
It's never okay to kill a baby. You've got to start somewhere biologically.
That baby is a human being,and for sure person they have personhood

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conception. Now that people say,well that's not practical, how do you
enforce it? How do you well? And how do you enforce it?
Will you just say abortion is illegal? Well, haro, we'll talk more
practically about that in a moment.And I want to talk to Dan here
and get your thoughts on this aswell, because Dan is also one of

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those sidewalk advocates that does go outthere and talk to people in the throes
of this dilemma. Sarah Luise Petersonright there, Dan Witt as well.
We'll get an update from Fox Newsand rejoin this conversation next Scott Bories News
Radio eleven KFAB. There is agroup called the Protect Our Rights Campaign that

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wants to enshrine abortion rights until fetalviability as a constitutional right. Now,
the media points out, well,that's usually around twenty four weeks, but
the phrasing in this is so vaguethat it could be up to the point
of where a doctor might say Isee the head and you could decide at

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that point, hey, you knowwhat, I changed my mind. It's
an extreme case, but it's possible. And we also have our guest in
the studio, Sarah Louise Peterson,who said I don't even support the morning
after pill. After conception that's whenyou're going to be a mom and or
you're going to give a child upfor adoption. And Dan Witt has been

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chomping at the bit to also respondto this as well. He's also our
guest in the studio. Dan,your thoughts on fetal viability and people just
trying to figure out like, well, I don't know if the morning after
pill is too soon. I thinkperhaps to forty weeks is too late.
What are your thoughts on this?Well, I'm going to revert back to

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my earlier remarks about honesty. Muchof this discussion about viability, quite frankly,
is just a dishonest discussion. Thesebabies can be saved, these babies
can live, and the morning afterpill issue. I know Sarah said I
respect the other opinion. I'm gonnatake this position. I do not respect

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it. I'm just gonna do alittle shock jock comment here. I just
can't fathom in my mind, mybrain just can't wrap itself around humanity getting
comfortable with moms and dads hiring hitmendoctors to rip the arms and legs off

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of their own offspring, crush theskulls of their own offspring. I can't
wrap my mind around that. Andat the same time we're worried about animal
rights, we're worried about climate change, where I don't think we've proved a
single fatality on the planet yet dueto climate change. But we're killing seventy

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two million babies a year on thisplanet. That's six million babies dying on
Earth every month. So in amonth we kill as many babies as Hitler
killed Jews during all of World WarTwo. There are people who are inclined
to agree with you as it relatesto especially you know, past the first

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trimester and certainly into the third,which is part of what you're talking about
here. To the point about themorning after pill. You know your description
well well graphic, I don't knowthat that's accurate. And talking about the
morning after pill, you're right,Scott, at the point of the morning

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after pill, it's right after conception. I agree with you totally. I
am honest. I try to behones in all my conversations and all of
my assessments. I wasn't trying toimply sure, but you work and tell
me about the Sidewalk Advocates group.Tell me about you know who you guys
are and what you do well.Omaha has a chapter and a couple of

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active groups. One group is activeat Planned Parenthood, the other at the
Bellevue Abortion Clinic. Two very activegroups of sidewalk advocates sidewalk counselors, and
that's part of the national organization thatSarah's very familiar with and very involved with.

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I'm more of a acting on myown, so to speak. I
support them and participate with them,but I'm kind of my own person on
the sidewalk. What do you do? You go out to Planned Parenthood and
people walk in there, You're like, hey, can I talk to you
for a second. I hold asign of a baby at twenty weeks in

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the womb sucking it's thumb, acolor photo. It's a huge sign.
You can see it from four blocksaway, and I guess that's kind of
my calling card. I always holdmy sign and try to show to as
many people turning in the driveway atthe clinic as possible this picture of a

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baby in the womb sucking it's tomb, just to try to get their attention
and have them think about what amI doing today? Yeah, there are
people who go to Planned Parenthood forother things other than this. We're told.
But you know when I said atthe start of this program that the
topic of abortion is probably my leastfavorite, just because you got people with
their thoughts on both sides, andvery rarely does anyone change their mind.

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It's not entirely accurate. As I'vetalked with people on this program who have
had an abortion and then they're thoughtson the matter changed dramatically. They are
among the most pro life people outthere. When you get people walking into
planned parenthood and you're standing there withthe sign of a baby in the womb
sucking its thumb in about twenty weeks, and there it is. Thanks hold

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it real close to the microphone,dance so people can see it. It's
a great picture. It's a beautifulpicture. A lot of people will be
surprised. That's twenty weeks, that'shalfway through the pregnancy. I can't believe
it. Has anyone ever come overto you and said, let's talk about
that picture, and I want torethink what I'm doing today. Do you
think you've saved any lives by doingwhat you're doing. Well, we know

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for a fact that we've saved livesand it's common that on a morning on
the sidewalk, if let's say adozen moms go inside the building, it's
not unusual for one or two tocome out in ten or fifteen minutes and
get back in the car and driveaway. We call it a save,

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we call it a turn away,and we rejoice. You're just standing there
with a sign. You're not,you know, throwing holy water on him
and yelling at him and harassing this. I make comments from the sidewalk about
thinking about what they're doing. Doyou really want to go in this building?
Call them? You call them babykillers as they're walking in. No,

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never, okay. So we tryto make comments that will stir some
thought, maybe some reconsideration. Evenas they're driving away. Many of them
have little brown bags with the abortionpills, the chemical abortion pills in them.
We try to say to them asthey drive away, remember abortion pill

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Reversal dot Com. You can stillchange your mind. It's not too late.
You have forty eight hours to contactabortion pill Reversal dot com and save
your child. You can still saveyour child even though you've already ingested one
of the abortion pill. That isDan Witt, Sarah Luise Peterson also in

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the studio, and you'd mentioned inour last segment that you think that morning
after pill is abortion and should beoutlaws. So a lot of people are
saying, you know, in thisday and age where the pro choice crowd
says of well, if we don'thave any viable way of women's healthcare,
then women are going to be inthe back alleys with a coat hanger again,
which is a lie. It's soeasy to order a pill online,

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get it right to your house,and do whatever in your own home.
And let's say, in your maybeyou would say, as you said,
hey, it's criminal to kill ababy. If the police show up and
go did you just do the abortion? Then the woman would say had a
miscarriage? What are you going todo? I mean, how do you
enforce any of these thoughts here?Well, first of all, I have

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never said that a woman should beprosecuted for having an abortion. That's not
ever something that I've said. Andabout these pills, and I want to
tell a little bit about the sidewalkAdvocates for life with the abortion pills.
They are very dangerous. The FDAtook away years ago, I think it
was two thousand, took the FDAtook away the precautions for these pills,

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which they never should have done becausethey're dangerous. When the gal takes the
lady takes the pill at the abortionfacility, it's supposed to be with a
doctor who has gone through a medicalhistory and ultrasound to see how far along
she is. Because these pills,these chemicals are only supposed to be used
for a certain timeframe. And thenwhen the gal takes them at home,

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Planned parenthood will tell which is benefiting. It's eight hundred dollars to do this.
This is not just the thing youget at Walgreens. Plant Parenthood will
tell them, Oh, it's likea bad period. Use some tylenol,
use some heating pad. The galcan bleed for thirteen days or more.

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The second set of pills expels thebaby from the uterus. The baby is
gonna be visible to the gal.They're gonna have to find a way to
dispose of it, maybe through thetoilet. It could be much bigger than
they thought it was. What's thetrauma of a fourteen year old girl?
Is that healthcare? That is nothealthcare? And secondly, those pills coming

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across through the mail, you don'tknow for sure the dosage. If the
gal has not had any contact witha doctor to have all those things that
I said done, they may havetheir friend go online pick them out,
lie about how long she is.She could die, she could go into
sepsis, she could hemorrhage. That'snot safety, that's not healthcare. And

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when we're out on the sidewalk outsideof the planned parentedd and NOMA in the
Bellevue abortion facility, we're there aspeaceful, prayerful, and law abiding.
We do not yell or have anyWe're friendly. We say hi, how
can I help you? Today?There is a pregnancy help center about four

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hundred feet away called Essential Pregnancy Servicesand they are amazing great organization. Yep.
They do free ultrasounds, free pregnancytests, free SDI testing for two
STIs. And we tell them howcan we help you? Like I said
earlier, most women that are havingan abortion or going in for one,
are in crisis, don't have ajob, being coerced, need to find

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a place to live. If wecan meet, and that's our purpose,
meet the women at their crisis,give them a chance to breathe, step
away, and a chance to chooselife. If they don't. We still
serve them, we still care aboutthem. We show Christ's love and our
purpose is to help. We gottwo minutes left here. I want to

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bring up I want to bring upPresident Trump because pro life advocates said they
were real happy with what he didwith the Supreme Court and the decision that
court made, and then he cameout last week and said that abortion should
be left up to the states,which caused several groups to say that he's
marginalized the unborn by still allowing abortionin some states. That's not the way
it should be done. Your response, either of you, Sarah dan Well,

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I'm personally not happy with some ofthe recent commentary by presidential candidate Trump.
A lot of pro lifers are nothappy he's kind of gone south since
what was happening during his administration.But in spite of all that, what

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we have in Washington today is horrific. The support for abortion by president politicians
in Washington is absolutely horrible. TheJustice Department is declaring war on pro lifers
on the side walk It's a terribleenvironment. And as much as I'm angry

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at the candidate Trump, I certainlywould have to tilt toward him versus his
apparent opposition. When it comes downto it, is it hard to settle
on things? Because we've got thispetition out there that might ask voters in
November to vote on fetal viability whateverthat might be at Nebraska's laws right now,

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twelve weeks and you've said that's twelveweeks too late. So how do
you go about settling this? Whatdo you want people to take away from
this conversation today? Okay, whatI need them to take away is decline
to sign that ballot initiative. Declineto sign, then tell five people about
it and how bad it is,and ask them to tell five people.

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Then get the literature to share,which you can get at the Catholic Nebraska
Catholic Conference, So go online andgoogle Nebraska Catholic Conference, and then pray,
pray that this will not get thesignatures, and pray that will it

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will not get on the ballot,or if it does, it will not
pass because God is in charge andhe is powerful. And then come join
us at Sidewalk Advocates for Life.Go to Sidewalk Advocates dot org. Sidewalk
Advocates dot org. And then we'rehaving a training where You can be a
sidewalk advocate or a prayer partner,or just find more information about it,
and so send an email to LifeSidewalk at gmail dot com. Life Sidewalk

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at gmail dot com and take actionquickly. Dan. Anyone who's interested in
learning more about how dangerous, deceptive, and demeaning this proposed constitutional language is
is invited to come to Saint Robertson Saturday, May fourth, The Nebraska
Catholic Conference, an abortion dialogue Academyjoining forces to put on a program from

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nine am to noon at Saint Robert'sFerrys one hundred and eighteenth and Pacific here
in Omaha. You can RSVP onlineat their website. Come and find out
more about how horrible this proposal is. That's Dan Witt, Sarah Luise Peterson.
Thank you both very much for thetime today. Thank you, we
appreciate it. Scott, if youmissed the last hour of the program,
I'll bring you up to speed reada couple of these emails, hit a

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couple of points that'll make everyone upset, and then we'll move on. In
the last hour, we welcome toa couple of people into the studio who
are those who say that this petitionbeing circulated that would give women the right
to choose in a very vague way. It's phrases like fetal viability based on
the professional judgment of the patient's healthcarepractitioner, or we would need we would

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allow a woman to have this donewhen the health of the pregnant patient.
Notice they never say woman, theynever say mother. It's all provide all
person's the fundamental right to abortion,protect the life or health of the pregnant
patient. Because you know, guysare given birth left and right in this
country and we have to recognize that. So there's just there's so much here

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that's so vague. The likelihood ofthe sustained survival of the fetus outside the
uterus without the application of extraordinary medicalmeasures. I've never seen anything written so
vague. You couldn't ask AI towrite something more vague than this. But
this would be in the Nebraska Constitution. If people sign the petition, it

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gets enough petition to end up onthe ballot in November, where it very
well might pass in this red statebecause women have been told that men should
not be responsible for their health caredecisions, and they want women to go
to jail if they end up havinga miscarriage. And there's so much about

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this conversation that's just so all overthe place. Our guest in the studio
the last hour quite pro life.We had Sarah and Dan in here and
they were talking about their problems withthe wording on this, and not just
the wording, but also the intentof it, which some people say is

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to allow abortions up to forty weeksin the state of Nebraska. So here
are a couple of the emails Iwant to touch on. And we didn't
discuss this issue, and Christine,I wish we would have, though I
have a feeling I know what ourguests would say. The email in the

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Zonker's custom What's Inbox Scott atkfab dotcom says, ask them if a female
is raped and does not find outright away that she's pregnant, should she
have to carry it to term?Do your guests have any idea what this

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would do to the mental health bothof the female. That's from Christine.
Like I said, I want torespond to a couple of these emails in
such a way as to upset everybody. Understand no one's asking my opinion in
terms of Scott before we write thisinto the Nebraska Constitution, before we make

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any boundaries on this issue, wewant to make sure we know what you
think about it, because every womanis waiting to hear what a guy thinks
about this issue. So I understandthat, but you have to understand I've
got a live microphone just inches frommy big fat mouth, so I feel

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inclined to use it as someone actuallypays me to do this. So the
topic is. The question is,but woman is raped gets pregnant as a
result of that, what would itdo to the woman's mental health to make
her carry that baby to term.I don't want to put words in the
mouths of our guest. I havea feeling they would say it's not the

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baby's fault and two wrongs don't makeher right, which I'm inclined to agree
with, because nothing like it's notlike, oh, this horrible thing just
happened to this woman. Don't worry. We have a procedure that will remove

(34:22):
that pregnancy from her, and thenit's like it never even happened. She'll
never think about that action that thatwas forced upon her. Ever. Again,
it's perfectly like women have never beenhappier. You know since we've done
that, it's not like, youknow, having this procedure done is going

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to eliminate the horrible thing that happenedto her. So the argument about what
would carrying this baby to term dueto the mental health of the female?
H how do you what do youdo slap some duct tape on something that's
already been irreparable damaged. And atthe same time, if I'm in charge

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and again I'm not in charge ofanything. If I were in charge of
this and a woman came to meand said, it just just happened to
me yesterday, I'm concerned about this. I want to take morning after pill
or whatever, and I want tomake sure you know, if I'm the
one in charge of saying yes orno on this, I can't tell that
woman no. But then the conversationgets to be, well, if you're

(35:29):
okay doing it at this many days, then why not do it at this
many weeks? And if you're okaydoing it? So I often say,
as we read this next email that'ssomewhere between the morning after pill and forty
weeks, there very well might bean answer. I don't know what it

(35:53):
is. Tim emails and says gotthis abortion issue will never be resolved because
it's more import orant to use itas a political issue to run campaigns on.
And that's I presume Tim, youmean that for both sides, and
I agree with you. The obvioussolution would be to take the extremes of
the table at the national level,ban everything after twenty weeks, while also

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guaranteeing a woman's rights up to eightweeks, and then let the states fight
it out between eight and twenty weeksindividually. That's from Tim sent to Scott
akfab dot com. I do thinkit's an extreme position to say that we

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shouldn't allow the morning after pill.But if we're looking here at extreme positions,
which one would I feel more comfortablewith the extreme position of the first
couple of days after potential conception,or do I feel more comfortable go hanging

(37:02):
out with the other side of theextreme, which would be when you practically
named the child we're talking about fortyweeks, right before crowning is underway.
A doctor would say, I seethe head where there are advocates who would
say, even up to that point, a woman retains her right to choose.

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Yeah, that's an extreme position.There are most Americans live in this
gray area? And I'm very happyto say most Americans aren't doing any of
this. I mean, there areso many people out there have strong opinions
about this, and they're not havingabortions. They're not putting themselves in a

(37:44):
position where this conversation would even comeup. But yeah, we're talking about
extreme positions. I do think morningafter pill banning that is an extreme position.
But I feel more comfortable with thatextreme than the other one, which
is, you know, if you'regoing to allow a woman and have a
woman say I don't want a guideto tell me what I can do with
my body. Oh, my body, my choice. You know that kid,

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if we're talking about fetal viability,that kid very well could go walking
out wearing a dinner jacket at thatpoint, and at that moment, a
woman could still have the right toterminate that pregnancy. Then what's stopping her
from saying, well, if youcan do it here, then why not
the day after the baby is born? Why not a year after the baby

(38:28):
is born? If I go up, you know, because a guy can't
tell a woman what to do onthis right. So if I go up
and try and stop a woman frommurdering her three year old. Does she
get to say, Hey, Idon't need a man telling me what decisions
to make for my health care.My mental health would be better if this
three year old were to, youknow, go and be jettisoned into space,

(38:50):
and I'm going to do it.I'm like, well, I don't
want to tell a woman what todo, you know. Yeah, there
are some extremes on this issue,and this is me sliding into a conversational
topic away from that one via thisstory. Not that this is more palatable,

(39:13):
but I think it's amazing that noteveryone in society, save for people
who are criminally insane. Here's thestory about this dog here in Omaha that
was duct taped up and thrown ina dumpster and thankfully saved by some people
that thought there was a raccoon inthe dumpster at a business near one hundred

(39:34):
and thirtieth in Arbor Street. That'sspout one hundred and thirtieth in Center.
They thought there was a raccoon inthe dumpster, and they checked it out.
It was a dog, all ducttape up. They took the dog
out of the dumpster fifteen minutes beforethe trash company arrived empty it and they've
got the dog back with its ownerin the Nebraska Humane Society to ask this

(39:59):
woman, is there anyone you knowwho would have reason to want to kill
your dog? Thankfully, Leo,little dog, cute little guy is gonna
be okay. It's amazing. Thestory from this one from k e TV
News Watch seven that talks about theexperts at the Humane Society who removed the

(40:21):
duct tape, and they said thelittle guy was horribly scared, but as
soon as they removed the tape,he had some mild skin irritation, but
started wagging his tail as soon asthe tape was removed. I mean,
that breaks your heart. This littleguy breaks your heart. And the Humane
Society said, we'd like to findout who did it, obviously so we

(40:43):
can jettison him into space. Butthere were no security cameras at this business.
Maybe some other ones maybe saw something. And let's not discount the experts
with the Omaha Police Department to beable to do something about this. But
everyone hears this story and goes,oh my gosh, my heart breaks with
the little dog. Someone tried tomurder this dog, and they need to

(41:05):
find the person responsible and bring himto justice. This is just terrible.
Yet pro life advocates say that theyfeel this way about anyone who does that
which is legally available to them inNebraska. Right now, it's twelve weeks,
which our advocates in the studio sayis twelve weeks too far down the

(41:28):
line. Again, I don't knowif that's the answer, but it's amazing
that we've got some people, Likeeveryone says, oh, you can't do
this to a dog, yet youhave some people who want to do it
to a kid who's in the wombsucking his thumb. Past twenty weeks.
All right, I jump back intothat topic, I'll jump out of it.

(41:51):
Just got this email from the BabylonBee. I get their daily dispatch
and I love reading the headlines.Here's one here today from the Sarcastic News
website, the Babylon b Biden retaliatesagainst Iran by attaching note to palette of
cash that says please do not usefor terrorism. Brilliant as always. Here's

(42:15):
the latest thing that's not allowed inthis country. There was an LGBTQ friendly
event in Washington State, and Idon't know if it was like a Pride
event, or if it was justan event to do whatever and they said,
yeah, we're LGBTQ friendly, whateverthat means. But there was an

(42:38):
event up there and one of thegroups that was asked to perform is a
group called the Borderline Dance Team.These are volunteers who do hodowns, and
you know, they were scheduled toperform at the Emerald City Hodown, which

(42:59):
is described as an LGBTQ friendly eventin Seattle. Again, I don't know
if this is a particular like agay hodown, which some people might see
as a distinction without a difference.I don't but or if it was just
an event with some people there whosaid, well, I thought this was

(43:20):
going to be a safe space.And then here comes the Borderline Dance Team.
It's a group of women, youngwomen, a lot of them,
who perform, They dance, theyhodown. Well, they ran up against
some opposition. They were told thatmembers of the LGBTQ community in Seattle who

(43:42):
are going to be at the EmeraldCity Hodown felt unsafe, They felt bothered
and yes triggered. Now, ifyou've missed our conversation a couple of weeks
ago, you're not allowed to staytriggered anymore. People have been making fun
of the term triggered. Now it'ssupposed to be activated. Don't say triggered.

(44:04):
You're activated by the outfits of thesedancers. What are the outfits?
The Borderline Dance Team wears stars andstripes. That's it. It's a red,
white and blue themed outfit. Thereare some stars, there are some
stripes. It is made to becertainly cannote the American flag, but they

(44:29):
don't. I mean, this isa group of women who just do some
I don't know, line dancing,square dancing and stuff. This is their
outfit. It's red, white andblue. Red white and blue outfit is
no longer allowed. There were peoplethere who are going to boycott and protest
their performance. They were told changeyour shirts or don't perform. So the

(44:53):
Borderline Dance Team young ladies, said, well, if we don't change our
outfits, we can't perform. Youwant to take a vote, and they
did and unanimously agreed not to changetheir outfits. See, they have this
crazy idea that the red, whiteand blue outfits they wear aren't offensive in

(45:16):
America. Now, the president ofthe Rain Country Dance Association says, no,
no, no, no one,No one told them this. We
probably a misunderstanding. We're and ofcourse now they're the victims. They're saying,
now we got people harassing us.We're receiving an extreme amount of online

(45:38):
harassment. You know. So they'rethey're in they're shrouding themselves in victimization here
after, you know, And anda lot of people might think, well,
yeah, how do you like it, you know, targeted because of
who you are. Who are thesegirls? They don't have any opinions,
to my knowledge, they don't comeout here and say, we're the border

(46:00):
team and here's what we think.We think this about this topic, and
we think that about that topic,and here's a moral issue we want to
take a firm stance on. Andwe got to reelect Donald Trump to the
president. They don't do any ofthis stuff. They dance, they hoe
down, they wear stars and stripes, and that is not allowed, not
up here in Seattle, not ifthere are LGBTQ people who would be triggered.

(46:25):
They say, well, one ofthe dancers says, what we were
told is had to do with what'sgoing on in Palestine and the LGBTQ community
in America who are triggered when theysee an American flag. Well, my
gosh, don't drive next to Perkins, drive right off the road. Don't

(46:45):
drive next to some car. Lotsbig American flags out there. How do
we even allow this? Quite amorning here on our program, we had
a couple of pro life advocates herein the program. They've got some problems
with a petition going around that wouldenshrine potential very late term abortion into the
Nebraska constitution. A lot of conversationabout that, and just wanted to read

(47:09):
this email from Lisa that just says, I so appreciate you bringing this up
for discussion on your show. AndLisa, thank you very much for listening.
And you know I often say,people email or people you know talk
to me and say, so you'reon the radio. Huh yeah. Actually,

(47:31):
how that conversation usually goes is areyou so you're on the radio?
And I say, not right atthis moment, but mornings from nine to
eleven a lot of the time,yes, And they say so what do
you do so? Well, it'slike the weather in Nebraska. If you
tune in and don't like the topic, just wait, it will dramatically change
I mean, so this is aprogram you can check out mornings from nine

(47:52):
to eleven where one day you're areally serious and important conversation about a topic
like abortion, and the next dayyou tune in, I might be on
here singing meat loaf songs, karaokeand taking requests. I mean, go
deep. Cut. If you're goingto request that I sing a meat loaf

(48:13):
song, don't say Paradise by thedashboard light. I mean I want to
hear something off the Dead Ringer album, you know, So go deep.
Anything could be discussed on this programand is thank you very much for being
a part of it. I hopethat this is matching up what you need
from this show and this station mostof the time. So in talking about

(48:40):
that which some people are outraged about, I see a dramatic lack of outrage
on continued stories like this, thelatest one from Oakland, where six people
dressed like Ninja's run into a jewelrystore in Oakland, California. They've got
hammers and a gun and they startssmashing and grabbing all of the jewelry in

(49:02):
the store. Now, there mightbe some people that say, well,
that's why you have insurance let's thinkabout this a much more humane way,
shall we. You own a jewelrystore. In fact, your father who

(49:22):
started the jewelry store, ended hiscareer at the store that he started,
not because he retired and was givenone of the own gold watches there at
the jewelry store, but in factyour father ended his run at his jewelry
store because he was shot and killedin a robbery in that store. About

(49:43):
thirty years ago. This woman tookover the jewelry store, one of the
oldest in Chinatown, and for whateverreason, not covered by insurance. That's
insane, but still you should beable to own a jewelry store that's not

(50:06):
covered by insurance against something like this, and probably not covered by insurance because
it's cost prohibitive because they're in anarea with a lot of crime, that
area being Oakland, San Francisco.So she comes to work after her dad
was murdered working in that jewelry store. She said, I'm taking up my
dad's legacy. I'm continuing the business. And here comes some people in there

(50:30):
with hammers and a gun, startsmashing everything up, grabbing all the jewels
and running out. Run the jewelsas ll cool Jay might say run the
jewels, and all you can thinkis, am I about to lose my
life? Because this is what mydad did pretty much standing in the same
spot in the floor. This stuffdoesn't belong to the robbers. And why

(50:55):
anyone thinks it's okay to go inthere and steal a bunch of stuff that
doesn't belong to you you is insane, but probably not as insane as the
people that say, oh, wedon't need And this is yesterday's conversation.
Talked with Douglas County Sheriff Aaron Hanson, who talked about issues like crime and
no cash bail where you know,you get arrested for something like smash and

(51:17):
grab robbery, Well, you didn'tkill anyone, so we don't want to
keep you in jail until you postbail and then have your trial. Here
that's unfair, so we'll just letyou out, try not to break any
more laws. It just put criminalsback out on the streets. And you
got all these thug coddling defense wellprosecutors and various attorney generals and states and

(51:42):
judges, and that you continually letthese criminals out there, and who's really
hurt by this business? Owners,customers that want to go in and buy
stuff wondering, you know, whetherthey want to go in there and buy
an engagement ring or whether they wantto go to a convenience store to buy
toothpaste, you know stuff. It'sall under lock and key, and there's

(52:05):
people in there smashing stuff all thetime, and someone if you actually go
in there and buy something, it'sgonna cost three times as much because there's
a lot of people just shoplifting it, you know, and good people leave
these cities. Businesses shut down andgood people leave and say why do we

(52:25):
stay here? But in terms ofreferendums, when it comes to voting and
issues of people out there carrying signsabout and all that stuff, people usually
don't bother. They're like, hthat's a shame. What are you going
to do about it? Yet,even though I hear a lack of outrage

(52:45):
about issues like that, CBS hasbeen hearing it. We talked about this
yesterday and since yesterday's program, thevoices of people who waited until Monday when
CBS open opened up after the weekendto call and yell and scream at them
and say how dare you? Imean, the local affiliate here in Omaha

(53:07):
got yelled at they didn't have anythingto do with this. What's this?
Well? On Sunday night, CBShad a special presentation celebrating Billy Joel's one
hundredth show at Madison Square Garden,which he has said over the years is
his favorite place to play. Andthis was his one hundredth show at Madison

(53:30):
Square Garden. And so he's outthere singing his songs and all that stuff,
and he proceeds to the encore,which always closes with piano Man.
And as they get to piano Man, CBS runs the credits and cuts away
to your local news at ten o'clockbefore Billy Joel had finished singing piano Man.

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As I mentioned yesterday, diehard BillyJoel fans, we appreciate piano Man,
great song. We don't need tohear piano Man anymore. We've heard
piano Man for fifty years. Ifwe've seen Billy Joel live a number of
times. We've heard Billy Joel livea number of times. We've got the

(54:15):
albums pretty much all the albums containpiano Man. We've heard it. Great
song, not exactly what we're tuningin for. So the diehard fans are
like, yeah, that's that's fine. I didn't need to hear all of
it. The casual fans we're like, how dare you cut away from piano

(54:38):
man? So they're yelling at CBS, They're yelling at the local affiliates like
KMTV three here in Omaha, andso CBS finally just like, all right,
all right, sorry, we willair the entire special up until the
final back to back choruses a pianoman, which probably features the crowd singing

(55:02):
the chorus a piano man at theend, and then Billy does the harmonica.
He says good night everyone and walksoff stage. We're gonna do the
whole show on Core presentation of thisFriday night, so if you wanted to
watch it eight o'clock Central Time onFriday. They have apologized and said due

(55:23):
to overwhelming demand and a network programmingtiming error, we are sorry to Billy
and his fans, and we willshow you the entire show. I'd have
turned it off as soon as hestarted on Big Shot, but you know
whatever, I don't need to hear. We didn't start the fire again either,

(55:45):
but that performance he did was stayingon Big Man on Mulberry Street.
I see that's deep cut. Ilike the deep cut, all right,
unless I'm going to see a showof an artist of which I'm a casual
fan, I'm yawning through all thedeep cuts that the hardcore fans are like,
all right, this is my favoritesong, Like, never heard it?
When are they gonna sing big hit? That's why Lucy's not here today.

(56:09):
She was probably there wanting to hearthe album cuts from both Toto and
Journey. If you went to theshow last night, I hope that you
had a great time. Thanks forgetting up to be with us here this
morning, we will give you thelatest on every male student's favorite substitute teacher
in Omaha next on news Radio eleventen KFAB scot forties News Radio eleven ten

(56:36):
k FA. Yeah, that's us. Here's the update on every young male
student in Omaha's favorite substitute teacher.The forty five year old woman who was
picked up by police. This isFriday night, technically Saturday morning, like
three four o'clock in the morning,as she was caught el flagrante delicto with
a seventeen year old student in hercar by Omaha police. Again three four

(57:02):
o'clock in the morning. The kid'sparents didn't think anything of it, her
husband didn't think anything of it.What we still don't know is whether she's
been bailed out. Who would bailher out? Their seventeen year old boyfriend
doesn't have any money, and I'mguessing her husband probably isn't in a big
hurried to empty account to get herout. So what we know is she's

(57:25):
in court this morning where conditions forbail may be set, and you know
what the exact charges might be here, but this abuse charge by a school
employee carries up to twenty years injail. Brenda Beadle, Douglas County Deputy

(57:49):
District Attorney, is leading this andsays that, yeah, we expect,
we believe, based on conversations,that this particular assault of a teenage boy
happened more than once. I knowmost men, certainly most seventeen year old
boys say assault. Where do Iget in line? But the court takes

(58:14):
a different view of things. Thenwe also have this guy in Lancaster County
and Lincoln. He got twenty oneyear old guy named Jason who posed as
a sixteen year old so he canengage in a relationship with a sixteen year
old. She thought it was funnythat she saw his phone where his mom

(58:36):
just sent him a text message sayinghappy twenty first birthday, Pumpkin. She's
like twenty one, so she invested. She cut him open and counted the
rings and found out he was actuallytwenty one. So he's in trouble with
Lancaster County deputies. Look, thereare plenty of people out there your own

(58:57):
age, whether you're twenty one,whether you're four. I understand there are
various apps where you can meet someoneyour own age in as little as ten
minutes. And if that's what you'redoing today, have at it. Have
a great time. Clay and Buckare next Scott Boys Mornings nine to eleven
on News Radio eleven ten Kfab