April 25, 2023 • 35 mins
It’s our final week of spring break, and we’re finishing it up with part two of our biggest Bachelor Happy Hour interview ever. In part two of Hannah Ann’s interview, she breaks down the timeline of how things went down after she and Peter got engaged. Hannah Ann also reveals whether she has talked to Barb since she and Peter broke up.
Plus, Hannah Ann reacts to seeing Kim Kardashian West’s tweet of support!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Happy Hour listeners, I hope you enjoyed these throwback
episodes of Happy Hour. We'll be back with new episodes
very soon.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right, back to our Happy Hour listeners. We still
have Hannah an here. Part two is dropping now, So
here is the rest of that conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Let's dive in.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So after the engagement goes down, you know, you guys
are together for a few days. I'm assuming at that
point it was good. Obviously you knew he had probably
been struggling a little bit. But how you had how
many happy couple times to get which And for the
listeners who don't know happy couple, it's a weekend where
they fly the couple out to LA You stay in
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a house for a few days to do a couple
things and to get to know each other because you
can't be in public.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So how many of those weekends did you have together?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
We had, I believe a total of three, including Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, And when you guys are in those moments, I'm
assuming you were talking about the future and making plans
about what we.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Were looking into, you know, moving in together, looking at apartments.
I mean, we were serious and really it was just
when the season started, was when I started, you know,
to feel his hesitation, and that didn't sit.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Well with me.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
But there again, he was giving me those words of affirmation.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
To keep me there.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'm not a dumb ass. I'm not just gonna stay
with someone, you know, just because of a commitment and
just because I want them.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
No, he was giving me those words of affirmation.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
That kept me there, that kept you know, that fueled me.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
To be like, Okay, I'm going to fight for this.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You know, yes we're in an un you know, yes
we're in an abnormal circumstance, but you know what, I
made this commitment and I love you and I'm going
to fight for you. You know, That's where all that came from.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Did after the season started, did y'all have another happy
couple Couples weekend? Or was the first time y'all saw
each other after the season started when the breakup happened.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
We had a happy couple the end of December and
in January, and then the last one was when we
broke up. And that was like a full month of
not seeing each other, which is a lot of why
he blamed how he was struggling and so walking into
that day. You know. I even have a voicemail from
him saying, you know, I love you, can't wait.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
To see you.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
And going into that day, you know, I knew it
was going to be a tough conversation and we both
even said we will move past this. We will you know,
overcome this as a couple.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
And was that the first time y'all had the cameras
at the Happy Couple week? Yess so when you saw
the cameras, what did you think?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I knew something was up, but there again, you know,
through text messages and voicemails, I trusted his word, and
you know, obviously I'm happy.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
How things ended. I mean, gosh, I was miserable with them.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I mean I was.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Miserable really once January started, or once once January started,
because the whole wishy washing has started, and I was
just like, I need someone who knows who they are,
who knows what they want, and who's not going to
be with someone just because their mom told him to.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
How I remember meaning those moments, how bad was your
anxiety and that struggle because when you can't be with
your partner and your states away and you know someone's struggling,
and that was that was so hard, and you know,
I was probably the most anxious I've ever been, because
you want to make this relationship work, you want to
just be normal with your partner, and you can't.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And so how did you deal with that?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
How I dealt with it was I was just focusing on,
you know, forward thinking, thinking of the big picture, thinking
of us ending this together, and the words he was
feeding me, you know, we will get through this together.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
You know we will. You know, you're my fiance.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I love you.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You know you're the love of my life.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
That's what fed me, you know, to continue this forward
with him.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
All of us would have fed into that.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I mean, he's my fiance, you know, this is a relationship,
he's my partner. I trust his words, and you know
I fell for it, and you know, showing up to
the breakup, I'm like, oh, these cameras. But we still
made that commitment that we were gonna, you know, work
through it. And you know, when he actually sat down
and told me more of half of the truth he's
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been telling me, which she couldn't give me a full heart,
I was like, I'm tapping out.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Sorry, I gotta go back to Hannah Brown, because you
brought it up at tonight and yeah, far so it's
odcause it's a huge far that bothered you. Yeah, And
then in talking about it tonight, I guess I still
feel like I don't understand. I know he said that
he reached out or wanted to talk to her for closure,
But how did y'all in that? Were you just like okay, yes,
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talk to her? Did you ask again, hey, have you
talked to her?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Like what?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Okay? He said it to you?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
But then what the reason why that was brought up
is because it wasn't just one woman involved that we
were having to discuss. It was you know, he proposed
to me still being in love with Madison and still
needing closure with Hannah Brown, completely blindsided to that there's
three women involved in this, and that was brought up
because that was a huge part of our relationship with
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him trying to convince me that he needed closure, and
then I should be understanding of that.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
And I'm like, gosh, like.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
But that's what I want to talk about, is him
trying to convince you?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah? Yeah, like help us understand.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
That, Like what I don't necessarily need to understand what
he was saying to you to convince you, But how
did that? Did he say, oh, I talked to her?
Or did you say okay, I give you my blessing?
Did you ever follow up and say have you talked
to her?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
What happened? Are you good?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
They on some level.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Had communicated, and he came to me saying, you know,
I need to speak with Hannah Brown because I need closure.
And I'm like, well, why do you need closure?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Like why you're engaged?
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And I was like, wait, didn't you have that on
the show? I should we should probably watch this episode.
Once I watched the episode, I'm like, well, where do
your feelings stand? He's like, well, we're engaged, but I
you know, we both just need me and hand around
both dieclosure And I'm just like, okay, well can I.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Is this in person? Is this on and off camera?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Off camera?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I'm like, okay, I kind of feel uncomfortable after watching
that last episode and now you're saying any closure.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
That kind of doesn't really sit well with me.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
We're engaged, like, we're not just dating, we're engaged. See
what happened? How did it end?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
It ended in him saying that he needed it, and
then I needed to support him, and I'm just like
I don't know how I quite feel about that. And
then shortly after that that was where the whole we
were shifted to our other issue of him feeling like
he had unresolved issues in regards.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
To watching the show. So there was so many issues
going on.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I'm just I was miserable.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I'm just like.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Trying to figure out who can I talk to? Who
can I like figure out like am I just being.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Am I being too sensitive?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Or am I you know, not being treated how I deserve?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Okay, coming in with somebody who has been in your issues.
There are so many.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Weird factors to starting out this sort of relationship where
you don't know where to turn and to add in
all these added things. Handah Brown shouldn't have even been
an issue at that point that you.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It shouldn't have been an argument at that point. And
as this is like the season's going on, like how
about checking up on how I'm doing, how I'm feeling?
And then you're just having all these issues. You know,
seeing Madison in your first day, seeing Hannah Brown, now
you need to talk to her.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's like Calley like, do you think he part rock?
Do you think part of him still loved Hannah Brown
and in that moment.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, I think he had unresolved in.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Back then or still in January.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I think still in January when he was with you. Yeah,
and that was the argument.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And did you say that he was in love with her?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Okay, he just said he needed to talk with her.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And I'm just like, what, like we're engaged, Like I thought, yeah,
that we've moved. I thought you've moved past all of that.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Like I've been completely blindsided, Like here I am, I
don't need to be contacting two x's about have enclosure,
like I'm here, I'm ready for you, and like although
I wasn't able to see the whole season, like the
audience is now, like I was blindsided to any.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Of this well, And you should have been his number
one priority.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's where his heart and his worry and his attention.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Should have lied. Is that the right should have lied,
should like whatever you.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Know grammar here, but but you should have been the
number one priority in his life.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
And it seems like multiple things were taken that away.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
And I feel for you because I get that, and
it's such a shitty feeling. And where you say you
wanted to be that sports system you wanted to get
through together, and like you, as a woman in his position,
it's like you still hurt and you still struggle, but
you don't know who to talk to because you can't
talk to most people about it, and if he's struggling,
you can't talk to him constantly about it because he's
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trying to work through his own shit.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And so who did you talk to? Who did you
lean on? Really?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Is you know what I didn't even tell I did
not even tell my parents until after our breakup because
I knew deep down my parents would have said get
out and run, run for the hills, dodge that bullet.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
So no one really, I mean, I was trying to, you.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Know, for me, I made that commitment to him, and
I thought we were going to be teammates, like this
is what we work through together. This shouldn't divide us,
this should make us stronger. And that was kind of
what I always tried to do. And you know, in
a breakup, I said, you know, this has to.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Be fifty to fifty. And I haven't been feeling that.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
You made a comment during that breakup and I loved
it because it's stuck with me. You said, I am
my own rock, and in that moment, I was sitting
there like, yes, girl, Like, if you're not getting what
you need in this relationship and he can't promise all
the things he has told you, you have to be
your own rock.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
And so yeah, good for you.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I mean, I'm sure that it came as a blindside
and probably one of the hardest breakups because it's not
easy when you know millions of people are watching.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
But you.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Seem like you still have that strength, and so kudos
to you like that.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm very proud of you and I and I.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Will say this like we still have much to talk about,
but I will say this is going to be one
of the hardest moments in your life, but you will
be just fine in the future and have all the
faith that you will like you, this will only make
you stronger and realize what you truly deserve in a relationship.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Yeah, I think you already have. You know, we said
it at the top of the podcast, you want tonight,
and not just because you saw what kind of unraveled
after you were on stage, but just because maybe you
had your voice before, but we saw you find your
voice and you were very matter of fact and you
were very It was like you knew exactly what you
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needed to say and what he needed to hear, and
he literally couldn't respond to it. He couldn't defend himself
because it was kind of like you're right, you're right,
and you stood up to him and said, you took
these moments away from me that I can't it back.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
But you know what, I'm going to be okay because
I'm going to get myself through it.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
And at the end of the day, that's really what matters,
Like you can't depend on somebody else.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You realize, like in those.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Moments, you realize you're stronger than you think. So, like,
kudos to you, I give you a standing ovation. If
we were on TV right now, But I think America
is going to see how you responded. They already are
right Like, I'm sure you're trending on Twitter as we speak.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Oh, people are probably then mowing you money to buy
your own drinks right now. I'm going to after this podcast,
treat yourself, take yourself a bottle of champagne because you
deserve it.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Yeah, I mean, call Kelsey. I'm sure she's getting like
a plus throat champagne like.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
You.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I think me and Kelsey, need to go out for
some champagne later.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Girls, you do, and myself.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I do have a question though, because you did see
tonight like you had one moment and then it was
like it was like that was one half and then
the second half was kind of what happened after. And
I'm pretty sure you saw how supportive Barb is of you,
whether you watched it last night or you saw tonight,
how she was clapping every single time you were missing.
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She mentioned she was clapping every time you responded to Peter,
like against her old song.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
She was claping for you, and she was eyeing him down.
She was giving Peter, And.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I'm just like, oh, I think people want to know
the love that she has for you, and the love
that she has for you is because you love her
son or loved her son unconditionally, and that's all a
mother really wants to see.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
And I get they're not in the relationship and that's
a whole and you know, you and Peter have your
own relationship outside of that, but that's what a mother
wants for her child and she saw that in you.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Have you talked to Barb since then?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Talk to Barb?
Speaker 5 (13:02):
And by that I mean I'm talking dms, I'm talking comments,
I'm talking texts.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Barb after a breakup, she definitely reached out a couple
of times I ended up.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
You know, I love Barb.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I do too.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I honestly I could break down crying just thinking about
her right now because I miss her so much. But
I knew that forgiveness is only way forward, and I
needed to work on leading up to this day, to
forgive Peter and to move forward. And doing that is
you know, isolating myself from anyone close to him. And
I can't, you know, continue to talk to Barb every day,
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you know, if I'm trying to move forward from Peter.
And you know, that's been also a heartbreak, you know,
not being able to you know, be a part of
Barb in her life. I mean that's also a heartbreak
and a breakup in its own self. And you know, Barb,
she's a really special person, and she's just looking out
for her son. She just wants someone to love her
son and you know, to root for his own happiness
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and to you know, be in a relationship with them
for the right reasons.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
I love to hear you say that, because she's getting
such a bad rap because of like I understood where
her heart.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Was and what she was saying. Maybe she went just
a little too funny, but I know she was coming
from a good place.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
And people are so crazed over Madison that nobody is
listening to what she's actually saying. So it's very nice
to hear you give a different side, in the softer
side of her. Becca and I've both talked to Barb
as well. We adore her, and it's just a shame
kind of what I knew tonight. She was being very
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defensive because of the hate that she's receiving online, and
she's just trying to tell her side of it, and
it's just not being received at all.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I mean quite honestly.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I mean this has come from an ex fiance of Peters,
but I mean, you know, Peter deserves the world and
deserves someone that will love him with their whole heart
and be there for their reasons. And that's where me
and Barb, you know, connect.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Okay, I'm gonna ask you, do you think that that's Madison.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I don't know her horror, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't know if I guess I never really knew
if she loved him or not. I mean she walked
away from him. But for me, I loved Peter and
I was never going to leave his side, even through
the worst. And I think that's what Barb's all in me,
and that's what she you know, That's what any mother
wants for their son, is someone to be with them
that's gonna unconditionally love them.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I want to know now since because tonight was the
first time you saw Peter and his family since the
end of jail or.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Oh, I can barely look over at his family.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I knew how I looked at her rest family. I
was just gonna start crying.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
But how was in that moment sitting next to him,
did you still have those feelings of some sort of
lingering love or are you now to the point I
guess I want to know where you're at, Like, are
you at the point where you're like you the best?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I mean, as much as it sucked, thank you for
doing what you were doing.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yes, yeah, I'll always have you know a special place
for him. But I mean he's betrayed me, misled me,
and that alone has and watching back the season, that
really resolved a lot of like extra feelings I had
for him. I mean just I'm watching a play by
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play of me getting deceived, and that alone it was,
you know, a slap in the face and it's helped
me move forward. But you know, to be honest, when
I looked over at his family, yeah, I did, you know, want.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
To start to cry and just you know, I felt.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Like, you know, me and Peter just had this awesome
situation and it was like just stripped away from me
so quickly.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
You know, it was a future that I.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Lost, but more importantly, it was the loss of a
person I thought he was. And I think that's what
I'm grieving over, is the person I thought he was,
you know, telling me to trust him, and the words
he you know, gave me that I trusted.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
In were completely.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I don't know if you want to call it lies
or if you just want to call it shallow.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
That we all thought.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's been very difficult.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I can only imagine.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
And I think that that's what's so therapeutic for Becca
to be here in this podcast and to talk to you,
because she knows exactly what it is that you're going through.
You know, I'm a viewer. I only watch it, and
I can only empathize with you. It's just it's troubling
because we talked to Peter before the season or while
he was still filming, and then right when the season started,
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and I remember we were saying that more than anything
for him, we wanted him to find love because we
know how badly he wanted and we know that he
wanted someone to love him unconditionally.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's what he said, That's what he told us.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
And he had it, and then he let it go,
like and then he still doesn't have it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Let's just be honest. I saw what I saw.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
What I saw tonight, he still doesn't have He said it,
you loved him in a way that he has never
been loved before. Well, I would assume that that means
the present. Did he not say that tonight.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Before?
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Literally I don't know what he is with Madison because
we still didn't get, you know, like a definitive answer
that basically, he was still saying, you loved him in
a way that she didn't and that's what you wanted
and you had it, and then you still chase something,
which don't get me started on how I think that's
the issue with man and that's why the Bachelors are
not successful because they're always chasing something that they can
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never get. And that's why we only have only had
two that are married at this point.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
And the.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
First one, well, I don't I don't play Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Of course, I'm still like rare beautiful find.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
I don't play the whole chasing game.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I mean, I understand you can't, you know, give to
man everything they want. But also at the same time,
I don't play games either like you or I don't
you know what I say to you, I mean, I'm
very clear, I'm concise, and I expect that in return.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
That's my standards exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Just be honest with me.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I'm gonna be honest with you back you.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Guys, girls on this show all they want is honestly.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Why have they not honest? They don't drag me along.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
And that's what's so troubling about what happened this season is, Peter,
you came from a season where the lead all she
wanted was to be loved and loved unconditionally.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
And excuse me, it's not.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Just King.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You came.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Peter came from a season where there was a lead
who was saying, I just want to be loved and
I want someone to give that to me unconditionally, and
Peter gave that to her.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
And then she chose Jed, which I can just put
a period there. We all know what came with that.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
And I would think that going through that hurt, that
you'd come into your season saying I want to make
sure that I don't make that same mistake.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
And here you are.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
It is sucks to be in a place of wondering,
and here he is in a place where now it's
like unknown, you don't know you're wondering, and with you,
he didn't have that. And what also message makes me
so upset is when we talked to him, he said,
remember this becap, you know who did you first?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Two things?
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Who did you pick? Because he was still with you
at this point. Yeah, And I think we were like,
who did you pick you? Like I'm trying to tell you,
I can't tell you. Then he said we might have
said did you always know? We talked about like our
own situations, and he said he has known since week
four who his person was.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, he was with.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
You, Yeah, like the season I don't even think an
when we filmed it, an episode had not aired yet,
so he was talking about you.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So you have known from week four.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
There are nine ten weeks of filming, So for what
do the math six weeks you knew exactly who it
was that you were going to pick, Yet you still
went back in time and you watched it and you
put yourself like It's like, Becka and I can talk
about this. It's the classic thing of a lead. You
you watch it, but you never go back and put
your yourself in it because months have passed since you
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felt those same emotions.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
It's insane, Yeah, it's and.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It's a weird thing when you watch it back when
you're going on certain dates with certain people. Sometimes it's
easy to like feel the feelings you felt in that moment,
like yes, but be smarter, like realize that was months ago.
You came to this decision and these choices for a
certain reason.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And for him, I hoped that in.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
The moment he saw like how different him and Maddie were, Like, ye,
you were everything he was saying he wanted. And so
that's where I think it's harder for the men to
separate themselves and to realize, oh, that was so long ago,
and I can't like I and this is one thing
that already kept saying to that. I'm not sure if
Peter said, but he wanted to what was the phrase
(22:04):
he used. He wanted to like feel out all of
the relationships till the very end, to go through everything
to get to that point where he knew who who
it was or what his decision would be. And it's
like they watched this back and they had this skewed
timeline in their minds and they think that it's really
happening when in reality, like, no, this happened three months ago.
(22:27):
And my question is, and this is what I want
to ask you. This is not related to what I'm
talking about right now, but if you were Maddie, granted
you guys are very different people, if you were in her.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Position, would you take him back.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
After everything went down and you saw it all play
out on how I did, would you take him back?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
And you know, if you look back on the season,
you see Peter's pattern of behavior being consistently and decisive.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And confused, and I'd be running for the hills.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, exactly, I mean I would.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I mean, even girl, even if he's saying he's loving
you and all this stuff, I mean, look at his
pattern of behavior. Yeah, the one consistency he has ever
had is.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Being confused, conflicted, and torn.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
His consistency is inconsistency.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yes, and if you want to ride that emotional rollercoaster
with him, go for it.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I just got off of it and it's a wild ride.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Which Peter whoever, if things for whatever, Again, we don't
know what the deal is with him in Madison at
this point. If things don't work out, do you think
he would come back to you? Because we saw it.
He still isn't clearly over Hannah Brown. He was never
(23:40):
over Madison.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Honestly, you guys, I don't put anything past Peter whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
He's just like so all over the place.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
He's so low.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
You hinted it perfectly when you were like Peter, Hannon's
like enough.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Already, it's like a confused face any longer you had enough,
And that's what it was, such a powerful moment.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
No, your words don't mean anything, they have no weight
at this point.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I think it's gonna be interesting to see.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Where you go from here, because again, you wan tonight,
thank you, truly. The indecisiveness is not something that anybody
wants to see their friend, daughter, sister, whatever go through
and I think that watching this back, you're like, that's
not the type of man that I thought Peter was,
and that's not what I want to sign up for.
And it's very troubling for us because I like Peter.
(24:26):
I think, yeah, I considered him a little brother. But
when I look at what's happening now in his situation
with Madison, it's something we've said from the beginning. The
men like the idea of somebody, but not the reality,
and they don't think about who works in real life,
and they just get caught up in this fantasy. And
once the bubble is burst, then it doesn't work. And
I just don't know how this situation can work. The
(24:48):
problem is is that when we talk to Bacht Nation,
we're talking to a room full of hopeless romantics and
they just see a love story and that's what they
wish for, and they don't think logistically like how this
can work and the reality of the situation. And I
think that when we end this podcast and you move
on and you go home, actually.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I think it's so you move to la We'll talk
about that in a second.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
But you know, when you leave here, you're going to
see how people are going to rally behind you and
how you were strong and you were an example, And
mothers are going to say, that's what I want my
daughter to be, and I want her to respond to
men like that and know her self worth and not
compromise who she is, which is the title they're giving Madison,
which can I just say, is such a contradiction.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
We are crowning.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Madison because she knows who she is and she doesn't
want to compromise her values for somebody. But I'm sorry
for her to go back to Peter. Is that not
exactly what she just did?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Oh, don't get me started. Anyways. Anyways, I'm going somewhere
with this. People.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I was saying, people are going to rally behind you
for what you did, and they should. Then you're going
to have the people who are fanatics and they're going
to rally behind Madison and Peter as hopeless romantics.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
But then you're going to see a lot of hate also.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
And the villain, unfortunately and in my opinion, unnecessarily, has
become Barb because as of what happened the first night
of the finale, the first part and then into the
second part. Do you agree with the online hate that
Barb is getting and that she's going.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
To continue to get.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I think that's completely you know, the online hate Barb's
getting is completely unnecessary. I mean, take that hate somewhere else.
She's looking after for her son, and no one needs
to judge her for that ever.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And everyone loves their babies.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Everyone I think in that position would need a back
off of her. Yeah, they would want the very best
for their son or daughter, Annah Anne.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
As as Rachel said, you, I Anna.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
Rupted this program to let you know.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
I remember I said people are going to rally behind you. Okay,
I guess I was a little too general, not people.
Someone has said, quote I love Hannah Ann with four
exclamation points, give it to us, Rach. Who's the one
person you would want to hear from who's iconic.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
In this in this day and age? No, tell me,
tell me starts the k.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Okay, I'm gonna say a Kardashian it is, Oh, what
would you like to guess?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Which? What is it? Chris? Is it the mall bear?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Kylie Kim Kim Kim.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Kardashian West said twenty one.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
Minutes ago, quote I love Hannah and exclamation I mean podcast, Okay,
wasn't already winning. Damn, Kim Kardashian, West can Hannah and
get some skims?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So what what else are we saying? That's extra so
I can get some to That's that's huge. Wow, Wow,
that's huge. That's another. Don't even think the Queen herself.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Kim Kardashian, Oh my god, Oh Christian is a huge
fan of the show.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Oh really yeah, they yeah, yeah, like Kylie, all of them.
So listen. If another boss, I'm sorry we cursed on
this podcast.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
If one boss, ass bitch going to tell you that
you're a boss, you better wear the crown.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Oh my god, what are you want tonight? My goodness,
I promise you this.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
You are gonna wake up tomorrow and first of all,
your phone is gonna be blowing up, so maybe turn
it off, take some time for yourself. But you are
gonna look at headlines and your name is going to
be splattered across so many of them in the best way.
As Rachel said, people are gonna rally behind you. People
are gonna want you to find so much love. You
are gonna be infiltrated with so much support. When I
(28:34):
say that, you think like what went down was the
hardest moment in your life. It's gonna get so much better,
and there's gonna be so many moments where you're gonna
be blindsided in the best possible way, and your breath
is gonna be taken away because you're gonna be like,
oh my gosh, this person gave me this, these kind words,
and they want me to find love. They want me
to find a partner. Like it's it's gonna be in
(28:55):
the weirdest, most possible you can't even imagine, Like so
many crazy, cool things have come. I mean from my breakup,
which was.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
The weirdest moment in my life.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But like your heart is going to be filled in
ways that Peter could never have filled it.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yeah I love that, Yeah, I really do.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
But now we have to hear what is next in
your life? Are you moving to La? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I actually moved this week, so like I was like,
just buy me one a one way ticket and so
I move in literally Thursday. Good. And you know, for me,
I gotta keep it moving. You know, the situation is unfortunate,
and you know, I gave myself a good couple of
days and cried NonStop and then I'm like Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
You know, Peter.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Wasted you know, and I love you. He wasted an engagement,
but he's not wasting anymore my tears.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Yeah, I gotta focus.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
You're going to be You're going to be an inspiration
to so many girls out there and even for me,
somebody who has been in a similar position. I looked
up to you tonight and I really I rallied behind you,
and I truly do want the best us for you,
but to see how you handle that situation in that darkness.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
But everyone has been through a breakup.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Everyone has felt that sadness and that darkness, and they
felt like where do I turn to now? And they're
going to look up to you and they will reach
out to you, and so you are going to be
a point of light for them and that's something really
really special.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Oh thank you. Listen, you too definitely need to. I mean,
you talk to you too. But I'm just saying, like,
you guys share something that other people.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
And you see what it's because she's glowing like this
is what you're glowing out to.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
But I'm just saying like this could be you too.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
And I think also you said something about he took
away this moment for you in this engagement.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Don't look at it that way, because honestly, if you.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Didn't take away myself, were he didn't take away yourself forth.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
But also he really didn't take this engagement away from you,
because he never really gave himself to you in that moment.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Think of it like that. He didn't take that away
from you. You still have that, so hold on to that.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
I was so I mean, it was so so proud
of you in that moment. Well, moving on, you got La,
you got a new play. You know, you have this
new platform.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, you have an agent.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Hopefully soon, hopefully you do you not already have an
agent like somebody else?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Do you not already have an agent in the situation
or waiting to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I'm so I don't.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Get any such I don't have an ah right now.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
So it's not so not everybody comes off the Bachelor
with an agent. No, we'll come back to that part
in a second.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I was gonna say, and if anyone needs to know
who Rachel is talking about, there's only two girls on
stage tonight, and it's not handing.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I don't have anyone right now.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I'm just I was just trying to focus on getting
through this past week. You know, I mean, I left
that breakup feeling like a bunch of broken pieces, and
I've taken time to like rebuild myself, and you know what,
I'm still rebuilding. I'm still, you know, feeling pain every day,
but you know, I'm strong and just like A told Peter,
I'm my own rock and I'll get through it while
he's kicking rocks.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
So we're not here rocks. So we're not looking for love.
You're just like all about loving yourself.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I have not dated.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I've just been surrounding myself with like friends and family
that are consistent and that are true to their word
and that are nice and uplifting. But hey, you know
that's definitely in my future, hopefully with the right person,
right the.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Right guy, because now I'm kind of like this big
sister mentality over you, and so it will be.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Taking ship from any guys.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Stronger, Like you're stronger than you think.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
You hear so much from this opportunity, Like we're so
excited to see.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Where you go from here. You're in La, the land
of opportunity.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
But Anne, I do live in southern California now, so
just know when I'm done with this bachelor, I want stage. Sure,
I am taking you, invite Kelsey too, We're going out.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I'm making you date me. Yeah. No, I would love
that well.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And it's crazy because like after our breakup, I thought
about you every single day, every single day, and this
is great. I tell you, you know, confidentiality and all
about you, and I knew there would be the right.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You really are bad. I'm gonna give you a number
for this. We will chat and seriously every day.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
And you know, I wish I would have known her.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I mean I kind of heard Inklians like in the
past couple of days, but I really do wish I
would have known.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I would have d md you. I would have reached out.
Oh my shit, I'm a little emotional.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
That was like, really, beauty, I'm just so glad you
guys could have this moment. We'll listen, We're gonna let
them have this moment. Off, Mike, We're gonna in this podcast.
But I just have to say, and it is such
a pleasure to get to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I say, like I said at the beginning, I was wrong.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
We started off the podcast talking about that, but it
has really been a great thing to see you find
your voice and to see you grow and to see
where you go from here.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
So again you won the day you did.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Thank you guys for having me well.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Thank you for being here as I mean, I can
ever top Rachel because she's just so good Withers.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
And you really you are a like to so many people.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I really looked up to you tonight, even though I,
you know, could be like you're much much older, sister.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
But thank you for being you.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Thank you for seeing in your ground and showing girls
out there what a strong voice can be.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And I wish you all the best.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I have no worries that you will be just fine
in your future, but thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I'm glad that we were your.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
First podcast and we stole your podcast Virginity Yep, Paradise.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Oh gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
You don't have to ask.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I'm not sure what the future holds, but it's.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Gonna be better than what I've had, maybe better. It's
not for bad short in like twenty twenty two. You
had to wait a second, You wait a second, I.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Mean, who knows, but it's gonna be better than what
I've had, and that's what I hold on to.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
You no, that's right, all right, guys, thank you so
much for tuning in to a faster Happy Hour. As
you can see, we had such a great time just
hanging out after the final rows talking to Hannah and
she's just been so open and honest with us and
giving us all the tea as well.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
She did not hold back. So thank you so much
for being here with us.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
And like we said, we just can't wait to see
what you have going on for you in the future.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
We're fans, huge fans.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yes, thank you hand in hand, and thank you Bachelor
Happy Hour for listening in. Don't forget we always love
to hear from you all of the comments, questions, concerns,
and praises. You can always email us at happy Hour
at bachination dot com.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
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Speaker 1 (35:35):
It is the first
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Place announcing what's coming up with bachs Nation, so make
sure you check it out.
Hey, Happy Hour listeners, I hope you enjoyed these throwback
episodes of Happy Hour. We'll be back with new episodes
very soon.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right, back to our Happy Hour listeners. We still
have Hannah an here. Part two is dropping now, So
here is the rest of that conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Let's dive in.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So after the engagement goes down, you know, you guys
are together for a few days. I'm assuming at that
point it was good. Obviously you knew he had probably
been struggling a little bit. But how you had how
many happy couple times to get which And for the
listeners who don't know happy couple, it's a weekend where
they fly the couple out to LA You stay in
(00:46):
a house for a few days to do a couple
things and to get to know each other because you
can't be in public.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So how many of those weekends did you have together?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
We had, I believe a total of three, including Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, And when you guys are in those moments, I'm
assuming you were talking about the future and making plans
about what we.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Were looking into, you know, moving in together, looking at apartments.
I mean, we were serious and really it was just
when the season started, was when I started, you know,
to feel his hesitation, and that didn't sit.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Well with me.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
But there again, he was giving me those words of affirmation.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
To keep me there.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'm not a dumb ass. I'm not just gonna stay
with someone, you know, just because of a commitment and
just because I want them.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
No, he was giving me those words of affirmation.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
That kept me there, that kept you know, that fueled me.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
To be like, Okay, I'm going to fight for this.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You know, yes we're in an un you know, yes
we're in an abnormal circumstance, but you know what, I
made this commitment and I love you and I'm going
to fight for you. You know, That's where all that came from.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Did after the season started, did y'all have another happy
couple Couples weekend? Or was the first time y'all saw
each other after the season started when the breakup happened.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
We had a happy couple the end of December and
in January, and then the last one was when we
broke up. And that was like a full month of
not seeing each other, which is a lot of why
he blamed how he was struggling and so walking into
that day. You know. I even have a voicemail from
him saying, you know, I love you, can't wait.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
To see you.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
And going into that day, you know, I knew it
was going to be a tough conversation and we both
even said we will move past this. We will you know,
overcome this as a couple.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
And was that the first time y'all had the cameras
at the Happy Couple week? Yess so when you saw
the cameras, what did you think?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I knew something was up, but there again, you know,
through text messages and voicemails, I trusted his word, and
you know, obviously I'm happy.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
How things ended. I mean, gosh, I was miserable with them.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I mean I was.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Miserable really once January started, or once once January started,
because the whole wishy washing has started, and I was
just like, I need someone who knows who they are,
who knows what they want, and who's not going to
be with someone just because their mom told him to.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
How I remember meaning those moments, how bad was your
anxiety and that struggle because when you can't be with
your partner and your states away and you know someone's struggling,
and that was that was so hard, and you know,
I was probably the most anxious I've ever been, because
you want to make this relationship work, you want to
just be normal with your partner, and you can't.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And so how did you deal with that?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
How I dealt with it was I was just focusing on,
you know, forward thinking, thinking of the big picture, thinking
of us ending this together, and the words he was
feeding me, you know, we will get through this together.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
You know we will. You know, you're my fiance.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I love you.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You know you're the love of my life.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
That's what fed me, you know, to continue this forward
with him.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
All of us would have fed into that.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I mean, he's my fiance, you know, this is a relationship,
he's my partner. I trust his words, and you know
I fell for it, and you know, showing up to
the breakup, I'm like, oh, these cameras. But we still
made that commitment that we were gonna, you know, work
through it. And you know, when he actually sat down
and told me more of half of the truth he's
(04:14):
been telling me, which she couldn't give me a full heart,
I was like, I'm tapping out.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Sorry, I gotta go back to Hannah Brown, because you
brought it up at tonight and yeah, far so it's
odcause it's a huge far that bothered you. Yeah, And
then in talking about it tonight, I guess I still
feel like I don't understand. I know he said that
he reached out or wanted to talk to her for closure,
But how did y'all in that? Were you just like okay, yes,
(04:38):
talk to her? Did you ask again, hey, have you
talked to her?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Like what?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Okay? He said it to you?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
But then what the reason why that was brought up
is because it wasn't just one woman involved that we
were having to discuss. It was you know, he proposed
to me still being in love with Madison and still
needing closure with Hannah Brown, completely blindsided to that there's
three women involved in this, and that was brought up
because that was a huge part of our relationship with
(05:06):
him trying to convince me that he needed closure, and
then I should be understanding of that.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
And I'm like, gosh, like.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
But that's what I want to talk about, is him
trying to convince you?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah? Yeah, like help us understand.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
That, Like what I don't necessarily need to understand what
he was saying to you to convince you, But how
did that? Did he say, oh, I talked to her?
Or did you say okay, I give you my blessing?
Did you ever follow up and say have you talked
to her?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
What happened? Are you good?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
They on some level.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Had communicated, and he came to me saying, you know,
I need to speak with Hannah Brown because I need closure.
And I'm like, well, why do you need closure?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Like why you're engaged?
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And I was like, wait, didn't you have that on
the show? I should we should probably watch this episode.
Once I watched the episode, I'm like, well, where do
your feelings stand? He's like, well, we're engaged, but I
you know, we both just need me and hand around
both dieclosure And I'm just like, okay, well can I.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Is this in person? Is this on and off camera?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Off camera?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I'm like, okay, I kind of feel uncomfortable after watching
that last episode and now you're saying any closure.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
That kind of doesn't really sit well with me.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
We're engaged, like, we're not just dating, we're engaged. See
what happened? How did it end?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
It ended in him saying that he needed it, and
then I needed to support him, and I'm just like
I don't know how I quite feel about that. And
then shortly after that that was where the whole we
were shifted to our other issue of him feeling like
he had unresolved issues in regards.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
To watching the show. So there was so many issues
going on.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I'm just I was miserable.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I'm just like.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Trying to figure out who can I talk to? Who
can I like figure out like am I just being.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Am I being too sensitive?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Or am I you know, not being treated how I deserve?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Okay, coming in with somebody who has been in your issues.
There are so many.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Weird factors to starting out this sort of relationship where
you don't know where to turn and to add in
all these added things. Handah Brown shouldn't have even been
an issue at that point that you.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It shouldn't have been an argument at that point. And
as this is like the season's going on, like how
about checking up on how I'm doing, how I'm feeling?
And then you're just having all these issues. You know,
seeing Madison in your first day, seeing Hannah Brown, now
you need to talk to her.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's like Calley like, do you think he part rock?
Do you think part of him still loved Hannah Brown
and in that moment.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, I think he had unresolved in.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Back then or still in January.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I think still in January when he was with you. Yeah,
and that was the argument.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And did you say that he was in love with her?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Okay, he just said he needed to talk with her.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And I'm just like, what, like we're engaged, Like I thought, yeah,
that we've moved. I thought you've moved past all of that.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Like I've been completely blindsided, Like here I am, I
don't need to be contacting two x's about have enclosure,
like I'm here, I'm ready for you, and like although
I wasn't able to see the whole season, like the
audience is now, like I was blindsided to any.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Of this well, And you should have been his number
one priority.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's where his heart and his worry and his attention.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Should have lied. Is that the right should have lied,
should like whatever you.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Know grammar here, but but you should have been the
number one priority in his life.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
And it seems like multiple things were taken that away.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
And I feel for you because I get that, and
it's such a shitty feeling. And where you say you
wanted to be that sports system you wanted to get
through together, and like you, as a woman in his position,
it's like you still hurt and you still struggle, but
you don't know who to talk to because you can't
talk to most people about it, and if he's struggling,
you can't talk to him constantly about it because he's
(08:54):
trying to work through his own shit.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And so who did you talk to? Who did you
lean on? Really?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Is you know what I didn't even tell I did
not even tell my parents until after our breakup because
I knew deep down my parents would have said get
out and run, run for the hills, dodge that bullet.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
So no one really, I mean, I was trying to, you.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Know, for me, I made that commitment to him, and
I thought we were going to be teammates, like this
is what we work through together. This shouldn't divide us,
this should make us stronger. And that was kind of
what I always tried to do. And you know, in
a breakup, I said, you know, this has to.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Be fifty to fifty. And I haven't been feeling that.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
You made a comment during that breakup and I loved
it because it's stuck with me. You said, I am
my own rock, and in that moment, I was sitting
there like, yes, girl, Like, if you're not getting what
you need in this relationship and he can't promise all
the things he has told you, you have to be
your own rock.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
And so yeah, good for you.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I mean, I'm sure that it came as a blindside
and probably one of the hardest breakups because it's not
easy when you know millions of people are watching.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
But you.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Seem like you still have that strength, and so kudos
to you like that.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm very proud of you and I and I.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Will say this like we still have much to talk about,
but I will say this is going to be one
of the hardest moments in your life, but you will
be just fine in the future and have all the
faith that you will like you, this will only make
you stronger and realize what you truly deserve in a relationship.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Yeah, I think you already have. You know, we said
it at the top of the podcast, you want tonight,
and not just because you saw what kind of unraveled
after you were on stage, but just because maybe you
had your voice before, but we saw you find your
voice and you were very matter of fact and you
were very It was like you knew exactly what you
(10:46):
needed to say and what he needed to hear, and
he literally couldn't respond to it. He couldn't defend himself
because it was kind of like you're right, you're right,
and you stood up to him and said, you took
these moments away from me that I can't it back.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
But you know what, I'm going to be okay because
I'm going to get myself through it.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
And at the end of the day, that's really what matters,
Like you can't depend on somebody else.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You realize, like in those.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Moments, you realize you're stronger than you think. So, like,
kudos to you, I give you a standing ovation. If
we were on TV right now, But I think America
is going to see how you responded. They already are
right Like, I'm sure you're trending on Twitter as we speak.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Oh, people are probably then mowing you money to buy
your own drinks right now. I'm going to after this podcast,
treat yourself, take yourself a bottle of champagne because you
deserve it.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Yeah, I mean, call Kelsey. I'm sure she's getting like
a plus throat champagne like.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
You.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I think me and Kelsey, need to go out for
some champagne later.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Girls, you do, and myself.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I do have a question though, because you did see
tonight like you had one moment and then it was
like it was like that was one half and then
the second half was kind of what happened after. And
I'm pretty sure you saw how supportive Barb is of you,
whether you watched it last night or you saw tonight,
how she was clapping every single time you were missing.
(12:20):
She mentioned she was clapping every time you responded to Peter,
like against her old song.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
She was claping for you, and she was eyeing him down.
She was giving Peter, And.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I'm just like, oh, I think people want to know
the love that she has for you, and the love
that she has for you is because you love her
son or loved her son unconditionally, and that's all a
mother really wants to see.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
And I get they're not in the relationship and that's
a whole and you know, you and Peter have your
own relationship outside of that, but that's what a mother
wants for her child and she saw that in you.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Have you talked to Barb since then?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Talk to Barb?
Speaker 5 (13:02):
And by that I mean I'm talking dms, I'm talking comments,
I'm talking texts.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Barb after a breakup, she definitely reached out a couple
of times I ended up.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
You know, I love Barb.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I do too.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I honestly I could break down crying just thinking about
her right now because I miss her so much. But
I knew that forgiveness is only way forward, and I
needed to work on leading up to this day, to
forgive Peter and to move forward. And doing that is
you know, isolating myself from anyone close to him. And
I can't, you know, continue to talk to Barb every day,
(13:36):
you know, if I'm trying to move forward from Peter.
And you know, that's been also a heartbreak, you know,
not being able to you know, be a part of
Barb in her life. I mean that's also a heartbreak
and a breakup in its own self. And you know, Barb,
she's a really special person, and she's just looking out
for her son. She just wants someone to love her
son and you know, to root for his own happiness
(13:59):
and to you know, be in a relationship with them
for the right reasons.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
I love to hear you say that, because she's getting
such a bad rap because of like I understood where
her heart.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Was and what she was saying. Maybe she went just
a little too funny, but I know she was coming
from a good place.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
And people are so crazed over Madison that nobody is
listening to what she's actually saying. So it's very nice
to hear you give a different side, in the softer
side of her. Becca and I've both talked to Barb
as well. We adore her, and it's just a shame
kind of what I knew tonight. She was being very
(14:38):
defensive because of the hate that she's receiving online, and
she's just trying to tell her side of it, and
it's just not being received at all.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I mean quite honestly.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I mean this has come from an ex fiance of Peters,
but I mean, you know, Peter deserves the world and
deserves someone that will love him with their whole heart
and be there for their reasons. And that's where me
and Barb, you know, connect.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Okay, I'm gonna ask you, do you think that that's Madison.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I don't know her horror, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't know if I guess I never really knew
if she loved him or not. I mean she walked
away from him. But for me, I loved Peter and
I was never going to leave his side, even through
the worst. And I think that's what Barb's all in me,
and that's what she you know, That's what any mother
wants for their son, is someone to be with them
that's gonna unconditionally love them.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I want to know now since because tonight was the
first time you saw Peter and his family since the
end of jail or.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Oh, I can barely look over at his family.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I knew how I looked at her rest family. I
was just gonna start crying.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
But how was in that moment sitting next to him,
did you still have those feelings of some sort of
lingering love or are you now to the point I
guess I want to know where you're at, Like, are
you at the point where you're like you the best?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I mean, as much as it sucked, thank you for
doing what you were doing.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yes, yeah, I'll always have you know a special place
for him. But I mean he's betrayed me, misled me,
and that alone has and watching back the season, that
really resolved a lot of like extra feelings I had
for him. I mean just I'm watching a play by
(16:25):
play of me getting deceived, and that alone it was,
you know, a slap in the face and it's helped
me move forward. But you know, to be honest, when
I looked over at his family, yeah, I did, you know, want.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
To start to cry and just you know, I felt.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Like, you know, me and Peter just had this awesome
situation and it was like just stripped away from me
so quickly.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
You know, it was a future that I.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Lost, but more importantly, it was the loss of a
person I thought he was. And I think that's what
I'm grieving over, is the person I thought he was,
you know, telling me to trust him, and the words
he you know, gave me that I trusted.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
In were completely.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I don't know if you want to call it lies
or if you just want to call it shallow.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
That we all thought.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's been very difficult.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I can only imagine.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
And I think that that's what's so therapeutic for Becca
to be here in this podcast and to talk to you,
because she knows exactly what it is that you're going through.
You know, I'm a viewer. I only watch it, and
I can only empathize with you. It's just it's troubling
because we talked to Peter before the season or while
he was still filming, and then right when the season started,
(17:38):
and I remember we were saying that more than anything
for him, we wanted him to find love because we
know how badly he wanted and we know that he
wanted someone to love him unconditionally.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's what he said, That's what he told us.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
And he had it, and then he let it go,
like and then he still doesn't have it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Let's just be honest. I saw what I saw.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
What I saw tonight, he still doesn't have He said it,
you loved him in a way that he has never
been loved before. Well, I would assume that that means
the present. Did he not say that tonight.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Before?
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Literally I don't know what he is with Madison because
we still didn't get, you know, like a definitive answer
that basically, he was still saying, you loved him in
a way that she didn't and that's what you wanted
and you had it, and then you still chase something,
which don't get me started on how I think that's
the issue with man and that's why the Bachelors are
not successful because they're always chasing something that they can
(18:36):
never get. And that's why we only have only had
two that are married at this point.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
And the.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
First one, well, I don't I don't play Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Of course, I'm still like rare beautiful find.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
I don't play the whole chasing game.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I mean, I understand you can't, you know, give to
man everything they want. But also at the same time,
I don't play games either like you or I don't
you know what I say to you, I mean, I'm
very clear, I'm concise, and I expect that in return.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
That's my standards exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Just be honest with me.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I'm gonna be honest with you back you.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Guys, girls on this show all they want is honestly.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Why have they not honest? They don't drag me along.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
And that's what's so troubling about what happened this season is, Peter,
you came from a season where the lead all she
wanted was to be loved and loved unconditionally.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
And excuse me, it's not.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Just King.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You came.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Peter came from a season where there was a lead
who was saying, I just want to be loved and
I want someone to give that to me unconditionally, and
Peter gave that to her.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
And then she chose Jed, which I can just put
a period there. We all know what came with that.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
And I would think that going through that hurt, that
you'd come into your season saying I want to make
sure that I don't make that same mistake.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
And here you are.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
It is sucks to be in a place of wondering,
and here he is in a place where now it's
like unknown, you don't know you're wondering, and with you,
he didn't have that. And what also message makes me
so upset is when we talked to him, he said,
remember this becap, you know who did you first?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Two things?
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Who did you pick? Because he was still with you
at this point. Yeah, And I think we were like,
who did you pick you? Like I'm trying to tell you,
I can't tell you. Then he said we might have
said did you always know? We talked about like our
own situations, and he said he has known since week
four who his person was.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, he was with.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
You, Yeah, like the season I don't even think an
when we filmed it, an episode had not aired yet,
so he was talking about you.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So you have known from week four.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
There are nine ten weeks of filming, So for what
do the math six weeks you knew exactly who it
was that you were going to pick, Yet you still
went back in time and you watched it and you
put yourself like It's like, Becka and I can talk
about this. It's the classic thing of a lead. You
you watch it, but you never go back and put
your yourself in it because months have passed since you
(21:19):
felt those same emotions.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
It's insane, Yeah, it's and.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It's a weird thing when you watch it back when
you're going on certain dates with certain people. Sometimes it's
easy to like feel the feelings you felt in that moment,
like yes, but be smarter, like realize that was months ago.
You came to this decision and these choices for a
certain reason.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And for him, I hoped that in.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
The moment he saw like how different him and Maddie were, Like, ye,
you were everything he was saying he wanted. And so
that's where I think it's harder for the men to
separate themselves and to realize, oh, that was so long ago,
and I can't like I and this is one thing
that already kept saying to that. I'm not sure if
Peter said, but he wanted to what was the phrase
(22:04):
he used. He wanted to like feel out all of
the relationships till the very end, to go through everything
to get to that point where he knew who who
it was or what his decision would be. And it's
like they watched this back and they had this skewed
timeline in their minds and they think that it's really
happening when in reality, like, no, this happened three months ago.
(22:27):
And my question is, and this is what I want
to ask you. This is not related to what I'm
talking about right now, but if you were Maddie, granted
you guys are very different people, if you were in her.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Position, would you take him back.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
After everything went down and you saw it all play
out on how I did, would you take him back?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
And you know, if you look back on the season,
you see Peter's pattern of behavior being consistently and decisive.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And confused, and I'd be running for the hills.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, exactly, I mean I would.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I mean, even girl, even if he's saying he's loving
you and all this stuff, I mean, look at his
pattern of behavior. Yeah, the one consistency he has ever
had is.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Being confused, conflicted, and torn.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
His consistency is inconsistency.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yes, and if you want to ride that emotional rollercoaster
with him, go for it.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I just got off of it and it's a wild ride.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Which Peter whoever, if things for whatever, Again, we don't
know what the deal is with him in Madison at
this point. If things don't work out, do you think
he would come back to you? Because we saw it.
He still isn't clearly over Hannah Brown. He was never
(23:40):
over Madison.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Honestly, you guys, I don't put anything past Peter whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
He's just like so all over the place.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
He's so low.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
You hinted it perfectly when you were like Peter, Hannon's
like enough.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Already, it's like a confused face any longer you had enough,
And that's what it was, such a powerful moment.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
No, your words don't mean anything, they have no weight
at this point.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I think it's gonna be interesting to see.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Where you go from here, because again, you wan tonight,
thank you, truly. The indecisiveness is not something that anybody
wants to see their friend, daughter, sister, whatever go through
and I think that watching this back, you're like, that's
not the type of man that I thought Peter was,
and that's not what I want to sign up for.
And it's very troubling for us because I like Peter.
(24:26):
I think, yeah, I considered him a little brother. But
when I look at what's happening now in his situation
with Madison, it's something we've said from the beginning. The
men like the idea of somebody, but not the reality,
and they don't think about who works in real life,
and they just get caught up in this fantasy. And
once the bubble is burst, then it doesn't work. And
I just don't know how this situation can work. The
(24:48):
problem is is that when we talk to Bacht Nation,
we're talking to a room full of hopeless romantics and
they just see a love story and that's what they
wish for, and they don't think logistically like how this
can work and the reality of the situation. And I
think that when we end this podcast and you move
on and you go home, actually.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I think it's so you move to la We'll talk
about that in a second.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
But you know, when you leave here, you're going to
see how people are going to rally behind you and
how you were strong and you were an example, And
mothers are going to say, that's what I want my
daughter to be, and I want her to respond to
men like that and know her self worth and not
compromise who she is, which is the title they're giving Madison,
which can I just say, is such a contradiction.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
We are crowning.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Madison because she knows who she is and she doesn't
want to compromise her values for somebody. But I'm sorry
for her to go back to Peter. Is that not
exactly what she just did?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Oh, don't get me started. Anyways. Anyways, I'm going somewhere
with this. People.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I was saying, people are going to rally behind you
for what you did, and they should. Then you're going
to have the people who are fanatics and they're going
to rally behind Madison and Peter as hopeless romantics.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
But then you're going to see a lot of hate also.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
And the villain, unfortunately and in my opinion, unnecessarily, has
become Barb because as of what happened the first night
of the finale, the first part and then into the
second part. Do you agree with the online hate that
Barb is getting and that she's going.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
To continue to get.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I think that's completely you know, the online hate Barb's
getting is completely unnecessary. I mean, take that hate somewhere else.
She's looking after for her son, and no one needs
to judge her for that ever.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And everyone loves their babies.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Everyone I think in that position would need a back
off of her. Yeah, they would want the very best
for their son or daughter, Annah Anne.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
As as Rachel said, you, I Anna.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
Rupted this program to let you know.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
I remember I said people are going to rally behind you. Okay,
I guess I was a little too general, not people.
Someone has said, quote I love Hannah Ann with four
exclamation points, give it to us, Rach. Who's the one
person you would want to hear from who's iconic.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
In this in this day and age? No, tell me,
tell me starts the k.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Okay, I'm gonna say a Kardashian it is, Oh, what
would you like to guess?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Which? What is it? Chris? Is it the mall bear?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Kylie Kim Kim Kim.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Kardashian West said twenty one.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
Minutes ago, quote I love Hannah and exclamation I mean podcast, Okay,
wasn't already winning. Damn, Kim Kardashian, West can Hannah and
get some skims?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So what what else are we saying? That's extra so
I can get some to That's that's huge. Wow, Wow,
that's huge. That's another. Don't even think the Queen herself.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Kim Kardashian, Oh my god, Oh Christian is a huge
fan of the show.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Oh really yeah, they yeah, yeah, like Kylie, all of them.
So listen. If another boss, I'm sorry we cursed on
this podcast.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
If one boss, ass bitch going to tell you that
you're a boss, you better wear the crown.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Oh my god, what are you want tonight? My goodness,
I promise you this.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
You are gonna wake up tomorrow and first of all,
your phone is gonna be blowing up, so maybe turn
it off, take some time for yourself. But you are
gonna look at headlines and your name is going to
be splattered across so many of them in the best way.
As Rachel said, people are gonna rally behind you. People
are gonna want you to find so much love. You
are gonna be infiltrated with so much support. When I
(28:34):
say that, you think like what went down was the
hardest moment in your life. It's gonna get so much better,
and there's gonna be so many moments where you're gonna
be blindsided in the best possible way, and your breath
is gonna be taken away because you're gonna be like,
oh my gosh, this person gave me this, these kind words,
and they want me to find love. They want me
to find a partner. Like it's it's gonna be in
(28:55):
the weirdest, most possible you can't even imagine, Like so
many crazy, cool things have come. I mean from my breakup,
which was.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
The weirdest moment in my life.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But like your heart is going to be filled in
ways that Peter could never have filled it.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yeah I love that, Yeah, I really do.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
But now we have to hear what is next in
your life? Are you moving to La? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I actually moved this week, so like I was like,
just buy me one a one way ticket and so
I move in literally Thursday. Good. And you know, for me,
I gotta keep it moving. You know, the situation is unfortunate,
and you know, I gave myself a good couple of
days and cried NonStop and then I'm like Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
You know, Peter.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Wasted you know, and I love you. He wasted an engagement,
but he's not wasting anymore my tears.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Yeah, I gotta focus.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
You're going to be You're going to be an inspiration
to so many girls out there and even for me,
somebody who has been in a similar position. I looked
up to you tonight and I really I rallied behind you,
and I truly do want the best us for you,
but to see how you handle that situation in that darkness.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
But everyone has been through a breakup.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Everyone has felt that sadness and that darkness, and they
felt like where do I turn to now? And they're
going to look up to you and they will reach
out to you, and so you are going to be
a point of light for them and that's something really
really special.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Oh thank you. Listen, you too definitely need to. I mean,
you talk to you too. But I'm just saying, like,
you guys share something that other people.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
And you see what it's because she's glowing like this
is what you're glowing out to.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
But I'm just saying like this could be you too.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
And I think also you said something about he took
away this moment for you in this engagement.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Don't look at it that way, because honestly, if you.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Didn't take away myself, were he didn't take away yourself forth.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
But also he really didn't take this engagement away from you,
because he never really gave himself to you in that moment.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Think of it like that. He didn't take that away
from you. You still have that, so hold on to that.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
I was so I mean, it was so so proud
of you in that moment. Well, moving on, you got La,
you got a new play. You know, you have this
new platform.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, you have an agent.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Hopefully soon, hopefully you do you not already have an
agent like somebody else?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Do you not already have an agent in the situation
or waiting to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I'm so I don't.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Get any such I don't have an ah right now.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
So it's not so not everybody comes off the Bachelor
with an agent. No, we'll come back to that part
in a second.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I was gonna say, and if anyone needs to know
who Rachel is talking about, there's only two girls on
stage tonight, and it's not handing.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I don't have anyone right now.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I'm just I was just trying to focus on getting
through this past week. You know, I mean, I left
that breakup feeling like a bunch of broken pieces, and
I've taken time to like rebuild myself, and you know what,
I'm still rebuilding. I'm still, you know, feeling pain every day,
but you know, I'm strong and just like A told Peter,
I'm my own rock and I'll get through it while
he's kicking rocks.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
So we're not here rocks. So we're not looking for love.
You're just like all about loving yourself.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I have not dated.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I've just been surrounding myself with like friends and family
that are consistent and that are true to their word
and that are nice and uplifting. But hey, you know
that's definitely in my future, hopefully with the right person,
right the.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Right guy, because now I'm kind of like this big
sister mentality over you, and so it will be.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Taking ship from any guys.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Stronger, Like you're stronger than you think.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
You hear so much from this opportunity, Like we're so
excited to see.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Where you go from here. You're in La, the land
of opportunity.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
But Anne, I do live in southern California now, so
just know when I'm done with this bachelor, I want stage. Sure,
I am taking you, invite Kelsey too, We're going out.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I'm making you date me. Yeah. No, I would love
that well.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And it's crazy because like after our breakup, I thought
about you every single day, every single day, and this
is great. I tell you, you know, confidentiality and all
about you, and I knew there would be the right.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You really are bad. I'm gonna give you a number
for this. We will chat and seriously every day.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
And you know, I wish I would have known her.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I mean I kind of heard Inklians like in the
past couple of days, but I really do wish I
would have known.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I would have d md you. I would have reached out.
Oh my shit, I'm a little emotional.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
That was like, really, beauty, I'm just so glad you
guys could have this moment. We'll listen, We're gonna let
them have this moment. Off, Mike, We're gonna in this podcast.
But I just have to say, and it is such
a pleasure to get to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I say, like I said at the beginning, I was wrong.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
We started off the podcast talking about that, but it
has really been a great thing to see you find
your voice and to see you grow and to see
where you go from here.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
So again you won the day you did.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Thank you guys for having me well.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Thank you for being here as I mean, I can
ever top Rachel because she's just so good Withers.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
And you really you are a like to so many people.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I really looked up to you tonight, even though I,
you know, could be like you're much much older, sister.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
But thank you for being you.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Thank you for seeing in your ground and showing girls
out there what a strong voice can be.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And I wish you all the best.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I have no worries that you will be just fine
in your future, but thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I'm glad that we were your.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
First podcast and we stole your podcast Virginity Yep, Paradise.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Oh gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
You don't have to ask.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I'm not sure what the future holds, but it's.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Gonna be better than what I've had, maybe better. It's
not for bad short in like twenty twenty two. You
had to wait a second, You wait a second, I.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Mean, who knows, but it's gonna be better than what
I've had, and that's what I hold on to.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
You no, that's right, all right, guys, thank you so
much for tuning in to a faster Happy Hour. As
you can see, we had such a great time just
hanging out after the final rows talking to Hannah and
she's just been so open and honest with us and
giving us all the tea as well.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
She did not hold back. So thank you so much
for being here with us.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
And like we said, we just can't wait to see
what you have going on for you in the future.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
We're fans, huge fans.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yes, thank you hand in hand, and thank you Bachelor
Happy Hour for listening in. Don't forget we always love
to hear from you all of the comments, questions, concerns,
and praises. You can always email us at happy Hour
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Speaker 5 (35:23):
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