March 28, 2023 • 55 mins
This week on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Becca is joined by the adorable happy couple, Zach and Kaity. We finally get all the juicy details of their final days in Thailand, including meeting Zach’s family and that breathtaking proposal. The lovebirds also share some sweet behind-the-scenes moments we didn’t get to see on-screen and discuss their future plans to move in together!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome back, happy our listeners. I'm Becky Kouffrin, and this
week I am riding solo. I'm taking you to the
finish line that is the finale of Zach's season. It's
crazy that we are already here. I feel like this
season at times has just flew by, and at times
it seemed extra lung, but we made it. And today
(00:23):
we will have a very fun episode because we are
sitting down with the newest Bachelor Nation couple, Zach and
Katie together for well not the first time because they
obviously did the finale, but one of the first interviews
with this happy couple. So we're excited to hear from
them all about their experience, how life has been after filming,
and hopefully get some plans, some juicy details for their
(00:48):
future as fiances. They can finally say that I'm sure
it feels great for them. So before we bring them on,
we're not going to do a full recap today, only
because we have the couple with us. They lived it,
they were there. They can give us their first hand
experience of everything that went down during that crazy week.
But when I was watching this final episode, I was
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just going down memory lane, remembering how I was feeling
during that last week with emotions and such strong feelings
between two people. It's never easy like that week, truly is.
It's one of the happiest times, but it's also, at
the same exact time, one of the most stressful, anxiety written,
(01:34):
really sad times, because you not only are hopefully starting
your new life with your partner, but you're also saying
goodbye to somebody that you have been falling in love with.
And it's a really weird juxtaposition that you can find
yourself in. And so Zach is one of the few
leads who had to experience all of that craziness, so
(01:55):
we will get his experience firsthand once we bring them on,
but before that, we'll just do a little fun catchup
for all of you listeners. I have some fun news
to share. Thomas and I are finally, finally, finally in
our house. I know it has been a long time coming.
We have talked about it week after week on this podcast,
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but our house is ninety three percent finished. We're finally
sleeping in it, we're living in it, we're cooking in it.
And we actually had our first little gathering of friends
over the other night and if anyone follows me or
anyone in Bachelor Nation on social media, you'll see that
(02:38):
we had a little reunion with Abigail and Noah, and
we had Justin and Andrew in town and Mikey p
and Rodney. It was all for Rodney's birthday, so we
finally could open our doors and welcome some friends and
just cook and eat a crap ton of ice cream
and have game nights and drink wine and so that
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has been like the most exciting part of my life
right now. Not to make this all about me, but
that's been a really exciting thing for us. So you'll
finally hear me stop talking about the renovations. I know
we've been talking about it since July, so you're welcome.
But yeah, that's it's a good week. I think to
celebrate all around. And before we do any more celebrating,
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once we bring Katie and Zach on, we really want
to celebrate their love because again, this is the first
time that they're in public and they can do the
little things like go to the grocery store and hold
hands in the street and even say each other's names
in public. So we'll get into the into that, but
I do also want to just bring up how incredible
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all of the women have been this season, especially Gabby.
We saw her in the finale and and I'm sure
anyone watching the breakup between her and Zach, I mean,
I'm sure you've felt it, and you've felt the emotions
with Gabby, and you could feel for her in that moment. Gabby,
you have remained if you're listening, you have remained classy
until the very end, and you've still kept your spunk
(04:09):
and your quirk. And so we're also wishing Gabby the
best in whatever's to come in this next chapter of
her life. It's never easy seeing somebody get broken up with,
especially on such a public platform. But Gabby, we love
you and we're supporting you from afar, and I think
only good things are going to be coming for you
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in the future. Who knows if that's paradise or what
that might mean. But I can't forget about about Gabby
here before we get into everything. But I think with
all of that, like I said, we're not going to
do a full recap because I want to hear it
from the horse's mouth themselves. So I think, without further ado, everyone,
I'm going to be bringing on Zach and Katie for
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the first time on Happy Hour as a couple, as
the newly engaged love birds. So please welcome Zach and
Katie to a Happy Hour. Well, welcome you two love birds.
It's fun to finally see you two together in the flesh.
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How does it feel now that you can finally say
each other's names in public? It feels so good, finally,
truly a long time coming. Like the amount of times
we like have to go secret code names on our
phone and like you have to meet up at secret
locations to see each other no more. Okay, I need
(05:32):
to know what were your code names for one another? Oh?
My god? So he actually had quite a few in
my phone. Um, but the one that lasted the longest
was Lucy. Lucy okay, the picture Lucy with a monkey
because his favorite animals a monkey. How did we pick
up Lucy? I think because I didn't have any friends
(05:56):
who were named Lucy, and I somebody saw it in
my phone and he'd like, oh, I work with them,
and they'd be like, oh okay, gotcha, Okay, And then
what was the other one? So for for Katie it
was and how always has been this It's been a
purple heart emoji because your favorite comes purple dolphin right after,
because dolphins are your favorite animal. I have like, I mean,
(06:20):
I was just like going to show it off. They're like,
who's purple heart dolphin emode? Like you'd liked in that one? Yea.
I'm just thinking, like if I was sitting behind you,
like in a grocery store seeing this, I'd be like,
who what what is this? Yeah? That's so funny. I
love the Lucy nickname. I actually named my car after Yeah,
(06:40):
because I love Lucy. I love that. What has been
the hardest part during this waiting period for you both?
I think like we both just wanted to, like go
to the coffee shop together. We just want to go
out for dinner, and you really do get to know
(07:00):
people when you go out for dinner house somebody treats
a server or even like hanging out with each other's friends, Like,
we don't see that. So I think we were itching
for that. But I think also there was such a
positive of being isolated and you know, a house together,
and we learned so much about one another, and I
don't take that for granted at all. But yeah, I
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think we were both super excited to just just too
normal life stuff. That was what we were like itching for,
you know, on all the happy couple of visits, it's like, oh,
like one did just be great if we could go
to dinner tonight or like just go on a hike
or walk the city or do this and that. But
what Kai was saying of we started to appreciate the
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fact that we had our own little bubble and we
had all this time to just talk and cover like
a lot of things that we don't get the time
to while we're in the show, and huge for us.
And so we actually looked back on it, or we
talked about it a little bit briefly of as much
as we want to rush into like going to the
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restaurants and coffee shops and just doing normal life stuff,
I think there's going to be a moment when we
look back and think like, oh, that was kind of
like a sweet time we had together where we had
to be so secretive and that's a once in a
lifetime being yeah, having to be so yeah. And also
life catches up to you like he's going back to work,
I'm going back to work, and you know we're gonna
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have busy schedules, so I think, like, just like having
this moment, no nothing in the way, no distractions, nothing,
just solely intimate time with you. It was, but we
are very much you're ready. I get it. I remember
those those months, and especially like those last couple of weeks.
It's they seem to just drag on so long, and
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all you want to do is share with the world,
because I'm sure most of your friends and family know
by now. But again, you're in this weird limbo phase
where you're like, Okay, I love this person. I'm ready
to like take this next step, but I can't quite
get there yet. I have a two part question. Okay, okay,
so two part question for you both. Now, Zach, you
(09:12):
seem like a rule follower, which I am too. I
appreciate rules. I like the structure, unless I've had a
little too much wine. Then I get kind of loosey goosey.
But Katie, I obviously don't know you that well. So
when you were in these happy couple houses, did you
at any point throw on disguises, have wigs, hats, glasses,
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and did you ever sneak out and do a little walk.
That's my first question, and then adding on to that,
What was like the main thing you did to pass
the time? Do you play games, do you cook? Do
you just chat? What did your days look like? Yeah,
I would say we for sure got a little We
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were very cooped up in the house and we did
need to go for a walk. So yeah, we did
do some disguises, um hats, glasses, the full thing, hoody
on it. We actually looked more were suspicious probably looking
back at it. Yeah, but like it's just not realistic.
You can't keep us in a house for forty straight
and like not know what the weather's like outside. So anyways,
(10:20):
I and I'm an outdoorsy personally, Like I was losing
my marbles going inside, like staying inside. So yeah, we
definitely did go for some walks, but like we were
still like we were good about it. We were Yeah,
we were smart about it, like we like early on obviously, Yeah,
I'm the rule of follower, and like you were like,
we're going on a walking like our first one, and
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I was like, oh, the baby, Like what if she's
on We're going and You're like, we're going in here,
and we did it totally fine. Um, I think every
every happico but we were. I mean we sometimes twice
sometimes yeah, like long and one. Yeah, but what we
did that past the time in the in the house,
we played a lot of like obviously a little bit
(11:02):
of drinking here and there, lots of wine board games
type like type of board games like Jenga, and we
played a lot of like drinking Jenga. Anytime there's a
pool or a hot tap, we'll do that corn hole. Yeah,
we did do that. I would say we played a
lot of games that got to know each other. So
(11:23):
there was like card games that would be like okay,
asking your partner, like what their biggest like insecurity is
stuff like that. We played a lot of those games
and we got great. They're so well oh yeah, yeah good. Yeah.
That's so important and especially the going off of what
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you both said earlier, like this is the time and
as annoying as it is when you don't want to
have to be so secluded for so long, it is
nice because you are in this protected space just to
truly kind of just playing off of the show. You
just spend that one on one uninterrupted alone time with somebody. Okay,
before we get into all of the fun, the finale,
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the engagement, all of the happiness sac. I do just
have one question for you, because this is something that
happened at the very beginning of this last episode where
I was just a little confused, and it happened probably
within like the first ten minutes. I would say, and
you're basically to set the scene, and I understand how
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crazy this last week is. It's one of your happiest
times because you know you're finally going to have the
beginning of this life with your partner starting, but you
also know that you have a really hard goodbye to
get to. Before that point, you made a comment of
like you have regrets and and you know you were
(12:51):
like working through the decisions that you had made the
week prior, and it was like really taking a toll
on you. But then like within five minutes and I'm
sorry to bring up Gabby in front of you, because
you guys are you know she is part of this episode.
But Gabby Zach had questioned you at one point of
like do you have any regrets, and in that moment
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you said no, basically like I don't have any regrets.
I wouldn't change anything, And for me, as if you were,
I was just left a little confused because I was like,
does he have regrets about like the actions that took
place or like the boundaries he set. So if you
would just really quick set the scene and kind of
just speak on that a bit more for all of
(13:33):
the viewers to understand where your headspace was during that,
like that whole conversation. Yeah, yeah, And I think that's
where it could easily be seen as like a little
confusing or muddy. And you know how I view that
entire like the Fantasy Suite week with you know, me
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setting up those parameters, Like I looked back at that,
and I still look back at that. That was regret
and that's where I made mistakes and I know I
could have been better and I didn't need to do that,
and that's always on me. So yeah, I could have
done a lot of things better, you know, and talking
with Gabby when I'm like talking about like our experience together,
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our relationship at the time, that there's no regret because
that's like getting to know the person and that's how
things took to get to the point that they were,
if that makes sense. But how the Fantasy Suite week
went as a whole of me kind of derailing it.
That was a regret. So, like I know, they probably
back to back, and it looks like, Okay just said
(14:38):
he has all these regrets but no regrets Gabby. Well,
I don't have any regrets with that relationship with Gabby,
but I regrets on that entire week of me accidentally
derailing everything. Okay, I kind of figured that that, oh totally,
And I kind of figured that's what the situation was,
(14:58):
and that's why you were saying that. But again, like
people who watch the show, like they only hear one
certain thing and that's kind of what they go off of.
So I wanted to give you the space to be
able to alleviate any confusion there, So thank you for that.
Now let's get into this final week because you were
prepping months to find your partner you obviously did. Let's
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take it back now to when you guys are finally
on that stage together during after the final Rows officially
as a couple. What were you most excited about, like
leading up to that moment for both of you. I mean,
this person foremost just excited to show her off like
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to everyone, Like I want, you know, like all my
family to spend time with her, all my friends. I
want to do like the life of going to restaurants,
coffee shops, like just do that together. And this like
moment on stage is like kind of that kickoff point
of like this is the rest of our lives together.
And so it was just getting to that moment, Like
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I know, we were both pretty nervous, and I mean
when there's like a live crowd, it's terrifying, so terrifying.
But it was just like after this, like it's a
new chapter for us and I can't wait. So yeah,
I agree with everything insane truly. Yeah, was there anything
that you were slightly nervous for going into that? And
(16:26):
like the live cameras are pretty scary. There's both of you, yes,
Katie take it away. Um uh, maybe stumbling in my
heels because I can't walk in heels. But now, I
don't think I was any I wasn't nervous or anything.
I was just super excited to just finally be sitting
on that couch with you. And yeah, yeah, I don't know,
(16:48):
just starting our lives. I think that's like the that
was the point that we were waiting for. It's just
being able to announce it. And I know, and I'm
so tired of being on that stage, not with her.
I know. Yeah, it's those moments that you want to
share with your partner and you can't quite until last night.
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So I get it. It's it was a long time coming.
You both looked lovely, and I mean, we're excited to
see I feel like this was just the jump start
to everything. I will warn you you do have a
crazy couple weeks ahead with a lot of press. I
will tell you right now, anywhere you go out in public,
whether it's even on a walk, a grocery store, out
(17:34):
to dinner, you will be bombarded. So prep now. Try
to always carry dental foss with you so you don't
have food in your teeth because that was my problem
for a while. But people, you'll just receive so much
love and support and people just like want to share
in that with you. So I'm warning you now your
cheeks are going to be burning from smiling. But but
(17:58):
enjoy it one time. Okay, let's go back to So
you spent the last two weeks of the finale in Thailand,
which it's such a beautiful place. Was that have you
either of you been there before or was that your
first times I've been there? Yeah, we've both actually been there.
That was the only place I've been to outside of
the country. But actually before this whole thing, okay, okay,
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did you I mean taking the show out of it,
were you either of you able to experience like anything
new culturally, culturally, with the food anything. No, No, you
were like you were like I was stuck in my
hotel room. When I wasn't on back in my hotel room.
Some of the girls actually went and did stuff like
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Ariel she went and hung out with elephants. Gabby was
riding around on her bike and all this stuff. And
I was in a pool drinking. That sounds lovely too, Yeah,
I mean, yeah, you can do that in any countom. Yeah,
they had to experience whole lot. I mean, as we
saw in the last episode, monkeys almost attacked me. So
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that was new. The monkeys. They're aggressive out there, so aggressive,
like scare the crap. You can't carry anything, you can't
have a backpacks. They'll come out and like they'll take
your water bottle or they'll take your food whatever, and
had no shad. They're like, no, their whole family like
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comes after you. They're intense. They're intense. Okay, what was
that last week, like for both of you, I mean, Zach,
obviously you were able to see your family for the
first time in months, and Katie that was your first
time meeting them. What was it like going into that
can Katie? For you, did you learn anything knew about
Zach from his family that you didn't know before? I
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think it just validated and confirmed that he had an
amazing heart. And just hearing what his mom had to say,
like his dad, as sisters, everything was just yeah, just
confirmed that. You know, I know your mom said that
you were more traditional, and I think I was like, Okay,
I didn't really realize that, but I think that's what
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I maybe learned. But other than that, it was just
kind of like just confirming that he had an amazing
heart and I already already knew that at that point.
But yeah, Zach, what was it like for you seeing Katie?
What are you whispering? Okay? For everyone listening, they're just
so cute. Zach's just like whispering probably sweet. Nothing insideo
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Katie's ear. Oh my gosh, you guys are actually very adorable,
and I would say it's annoying, but I also feel
the same way about my partner, So keep keep at it,
keep at it, Zach. What was it like for you
being able to see Katie interact with your family for
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that first time. I mean, I mean I was so
excited to have her actually finally me like my mom
and my dad. I was like what I was most
excited about. I knew she she'd get along with my sisters.
I mean, my sisters are crack ups, and I don't
know like how much of their personality has really shown
or not, but they're awesome, and I know you've got
along with it. But talking to your sisters with like
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talking to my friends, Yeah, it was. It felt very comfortable. Yeah. Yeah,
And I remember like seeing you after the fact and
I was like, like I knew it went well, like
I could just tell um, but also like what my
family like told me afterwards, it was just like, yeah,
it's just different, like with you too. There's this aura
like around you both, and I was like, I know,
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like I just and I don't know, it was just
like everything went smooth. I know. My dad kind of
scared you a little bit big, I'm gonna tell you this.
He was very jet lagged, had quite a bit of
whiskey and that man and talk. So he I've been
apologizing ever since the gave me about that all because
(22:00):
he's really a big teddy bearer. But he had too
much check in. Yeah, yeah, he kind of bribed me
a little bit. I thought for sure more of the
uncomfortable conversation would come from his mom for some reason,
I don't know why. And then I thought it would
go like really smoothly with his dad. But his dad
just like laid into me, and I was like, kind
(22:22):
of take him back a little bit, not like laid
into me in a bad way, but just kind of
like I remember. And I always bring this up to Zach,
but he's like, it was like all fun in games.
And then he's like, so, what happens when the commission
check doesn't come in? What do you do? I'm like,
that was not shown. This is, I mean good point
what happens in me? I was like, oh yeah, So
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I was like sitting there freaking out. And then I
was like, where is Zach? Yeah, well that's so funny
because we didn't I mean, obviously they can only include
such a short bit of each conversation, but what we
did see with you and Katie, I actually thought it
was very special and just so real. Is you got
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pretty emotional with his entire family, and I don't think
correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think you were
expecting that right, Like not that it got heavy, but
you just I felt like we're so overcome with your
emotion and your love and your respect for this man
that that was like a moment where for me a Tovie,
I was like, damn, she really does love this man. Yeah, no, absolutely,
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And I think it just became like very surreal for
me too. I mean there, I mean it was before,
but I think it was like I can see myself
in this family, and it just like it was like
a lot of it was like tears of joy, I think,
but it was overwhelming, like your life's about to turn
upside down. It could go good or could go bad.
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So yeah, lots of tears for sure. But so Zach,
I know when we had you on a couple of
weeks ago, now, we had talked a little bit about
like hometowns and where you were at in terms of
getting parents blessings. Were you at any point able before
you proposed to Katie at the end able to call
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Katie's parents and ask for that or was it once
you returned? And I'm just assuming you asked for the
blessing now, but I could be very wrong. But when
were you able to do that with her family? I
asked for her mom's blessing when I met her out
in Austin, so it was it was not the week
and I met her lovely family that is so much fun.
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And I was like really like nervous for that conversation
with her mom man, and I just like Relea, saw
a future there and I wanted her to like feel
comfortable with me possibly being in their family. And it
was really important to me to make sure that you
know that she approved of me possibly joining the family. So, oh,
(25:02):
you little sneaks, because I know when we asked you,
you played so cool. You were like, no, I didn't
necessarily want to do that unless I knew it was
like the person okay, okay, let's coming together. I think
you asked everybody, well well out of respect, yeah yeah,
yeah yeah. It wasn't like a yeah gaydies the one
(25:23):
at that point now because maybe he did know Za
okay for both of you. Well, okay, Zach, I'm just
gonna ask you this, And when was the one moment
that you knew and I will and I will say
this too, because the show does a great job of
showing all love stories and showing all relationships and connections,
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and obviously at the end, I mean, no surprise, there's
two people left. And we always they always show like
this struggle of like I don't quite know up until
like the last moment. That is false. People. Sometimes people
just know ahead of time. So Zach, on the record,
when did you know it was Katie? Yeah, on the record,
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on the record, so like the exact like moment where
I mean it was, it was without a doubt, I
I knew without any slipper was when I saw her
at the Last Chance Date when we were at at
the waterfall. Immediately I put my eyes on her and
I was like, I'm an idiot, like like, it's it's you,
(26:32):
It's been you. What was the what was the energy
of that last date? Like and I hate that they
call it the last Chance day because it sounds like
fine new person. Yeah right, it's like such a hail Mary,
like let me just lob this ball down and see
where it lands. It has such it's it just sounds
so terrible. I wish they had a different name for it.
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But what was the energy like? I you know, because
I'm not either one of you, and I have a
completely different experience of what my last dates were, but
for both of you, what was the energy like going
into that? I thought it was pretty good. I mean,
definitely based on the last date more than yeah, like
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anything is better than that. Yeah, no, But I think overall,
I mean for me, and obviously you say you're piece
on it too, but I thought it was it was
good for sure, Like I was happy going into it.
I was a little like I think, just like with
the show, I was just like like ready to not
(27:39):
be in front of a camera anymore. I just wanted
to take him in that moment, just let's let's get
out of here, screw this and all that. But no,
it was really good. It was really sweet, and I
really liked the evening portion of our date. But um,
all of it was just really good. Yeah, Katie. Usually
during that time, I'm like, we're expect I'm saying we like,
(28:03):
I'm still part of the show with you, but we're
expected to give the lead or make the lead a
little gift. Did you that night happen? Thing? For Zach.
I did. And I've never even talked to you about this.
We've never talked about never. Um so I actually think
it was hometowns is when it was kind of like
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we started talking about it because we were obviously going
to Thailand, but so we made I made a door knocker,
so it's like for our first home and it says
home to home, Welcome to Zach and Katie's house. I
had no idea do you still have it your house
(28:47):
in Canada? But oh my, actually funny, my mom, when
I was I was packing to come here, I was
looking at it, and my Mom's like, what is that?
And I was like, oh, it's give that I was
supposed to give Zach but we never actually did it.
Oh my gosh, me, I'm like it is sweet. I
was like, uh, I have the chills up. Well, that's
(29:10):
actually very precious because and I do want to get
into your future plans. But I feel like, now this
is perfect timing to hang it on your door wherever.
I mean, you already had Zach help you put together
furniture and everything. Oh yeah, this is just a great addition. Smart.
I can screw in a light bulb pretty well. Yeah,
Oh my gosh, that's so cute. Okay, so let's get
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down to the last big best day, Zach. How did
you prepare for that? Did you have a game plan
of what you wanted to say? Were you just gonna
kind of wing it because this was the first time,
and correct me if I'm wrong here, but this was
the first time you were gonna tell Katie you loved her?
(29:56):
Correct Yeah, yeah, okay, So talk us through your headspace
and like a plan for that day. So it was
actually like the night before I started. I wanted to
have something prepared because I really wanted her to know,
like how much she means to me, how much I
love her. And I wanted it, you know, to be like,
(30:17):
you know, like beautifully written if I could. But I
just wanted to be really special for her. And so
I started the night before and then I continued it
like in the morning, and when everything was all said
and I was up on that stage and she was
walking towards me, I mean, my knees were trembling, like
I was like my voice was already starting to crack,
and I was like I couldn't contain my smile, and
(30:40):
I was like, oh shit, this whole like script I
had in my head of like what I want to
say to her before I get on one knee, like
I'm gonna try to remember it. And I remember just
going on and I was getting emotional because I was
so happy and just seeing like you look looking at
your eyes and falling more and more in love. And
I think you just said, just kissed me Oladier. I did,
(31:01):
and I wanted something, you know, prepared, but like once
I was just up there, it was just you spoke
from the heart, truly, you could tell. Yeah. I was like,
I like, I wrote out a speech and then I
was like trying to memorize that. I'm like, I'm gonna
fumble the bag. I'm gonna like I don't know, like
just my words are gonna get all jumbled up and whatever.
(31:22):
But yeah, I don't think I did. I remember, No,
you did. I did. I found you did not fumble you.
You crushed it. You did not fumble anything. Well, both
of you. I think you spoke from the heart. And
and this is something that I saw. I really think
I saw with you two on your first date and
just throw but like even now, you both just have
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this ease about you between the two of you like it.
You just seem obviously you're so happy right now, but
you just also seem so calm and like you center
each other, which is really special. And I think that
last day. Usually you can kind of tell if like
something seems rehearsed, and people like ran through certain things
in their head, but for both of you, it just
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seemed to flow, as you said, from the heart. It
was really beautiful. So one thing that I want to
ask both of you, because especially in the moment of
the proposal and finally be able to say I love
you and know that it's just the two of you
from here and not there's so much excitement. I'm sure
there were so many giggles and inside jokes and just
(32:29):
like you were just elated. Obviously they can't all be shown.
So was there anything during that last day that you
both remember that sucho to you that we just missed
his viewers. You all mean, I'll take it away, so
after the reason it happened, I want, okay, because this
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is still a conversation. At some point after the proposal,
there's this beautiful swing right on the sand, it's overlooking
the water. We're just having this amazing time We're like,
like we look like kids running around and we see
this swing and we're like, yeah, screw it, let's just
(33:12):
get on this swing together. And she's holding onto me,
and I'm like getting the swing ready, but I think
she's holding onto the swing, so I'm just holding onto her.
So we have no foundation on this right now. And
on our first little swing up, we both fall completely
on the back of our heads, smack dab on top
(33:33):
of the minds that we had on us, like totally
like yeah, screwing up our bodies covered in sand, and
it was so funny. Yeah, And then you see like
all the producers that can't remember being like, oh are
you okay? And I'm like laughing my ass off in
the sand. I'm like, this is so funny as if
its happened all I see. My last memory was just
(33:55):
seeing your heels go up in the sky. Yeah, like,
oh my gosh. And of course you're wearing a white
dressed too, right, of course that's how it happens. They're
probably damn it. We need the paramedics for these newly
engaged people. Those are the best. So that's like, those
are moments that I wish they included in the bloopers
because like, and we were probably on cloud nine. You're like,
(34:16):
this doesn't even hurt, but like, it is what it is, Katie,
I have to tell you this. We're all over the
place here, but I have to say the way that
you say sorry, I feel like I'm saying it like
you know, I find it so endearing. Thank you. Yeah,
a lot of people thought it was psychotic the way
that I said it, but I mean, I can't change it.
(34:39):
Oh this Canadian about it. I think we were in
Estonia when we brought it up. We were bringing up
like how you can hear my accent. I'm like, okay,
you say sorry, and then we're like back and forth
saying and I'm like, and there's another one story and
oh he thinks I say about weird like a boot No, no,
(35:00):
you do. It is a very Canadian like Midwest thing
about about oh about Zach. You're gonna start picking it up.
You're gonna start talking like Katie, I'm telling you so
she already has me on the Hey, that's a pretty
good thing. Ah Hey, oh yeah, I say a lot.
It's moving down to the States. Everybody's like when a
(35:21):
Canadian says ay it's like this huge thing. You're like
the Canadians. I was like, I'm from Minnesota, so we're neighbors,
so I feel like we do very similar things. Um, okay,
So one thing during the proposal that I kind of
knew what was coming, Zach, but Katie your face for
(35:43):
a hot second, you were like, oh, which way is
this gonna go? So, Zach, right before you tell Katie
that you love her, you like, you know, you lead
into this beautiful speech of like, you know, I've gotten
to know you, and I'm I'm paraphrasing here, but it
was like I've been falling in love with you. And
then you hesitate and you give a little pause there
(36:05):
and Katie's face, Katie's face, they zoom in and she
doesn't quite know which way it's going to go. So Katie,
was there a slight moment where you were like, oh shit,
this is not gonna go my way? I think, yeah,
there's obviously that in the back of your head it's like, Okay,
this this might not be me, which is so scary
(36:28):
and the thought of it is extremely devastating because my
whole heart belonged to him. But yeah, I think I was.
I was confident. I think like before that moment, like
walking out, I was talking to Jesse before I walked
around the corner, and I was confident, and I was
(36:50):
confident in us. But you still don't know. But I'm
also confident in who I am too and what I
have to offer. And I think I was like, it
is what it is at this point, he either loves
me or he doesn't, and everything happens for a reason.
I think I just kind of had that outlook, but
I did have a confidence that it was gonna be me. Okay,
(37:14):
so let's get into future plans. So last one on stage,
you announced that you two are moving in together. Give
us like a little timeline and what that looks like. Yeah,
So basically, after all this press and chaos that we have,
(37:36):
Zach is going to go back to Anaheim. He's gonna
pack all this stuff up and he's going to drive
the Austin. I start a contract, so I'm going to
be living separately for three months, and then we're going
to move in together in the summer. Yeah, in Austin. Correct. Yeah, Okay,
how exciting. What are you both most looking forward to
(38:06):
about finally cohabitating? This waking up to you every morning.
Really yeah, this is morning person. Wow. Yeah, I cannot
wait for just like every morning to roll over like
I usually get Like, I'm pretty energetic in the morning,
(38:28):
is like randomly as when it hits me. And she's
a little bit slower to get energy in the morning.
So I love just rolling over and the thought of
just every day rolling over seeing your face, kissing the
hell out of it, Like, give me ten more minutes. Yeah,
and that's fine. So just just the go to bed
and I every night with each other and waking up
(38:49):
thing doing life together, like the random stuff. Yeah, nothing specific,
just I guess you're doing it, doing it. Yeah. So
when you brought him back for your hometown, Katie, we
saw him, you know, you put him to work. He
was putting together some furniture. Is that the apartment that
(39:11):
you will both be living in? Are you going to
find a new one for both of you? Um? No,
so that place. I don't live in there anymore. Travel
nurses that once you're done a contract usually just like
get a new place. Um. So I was in a
different I was in a studio actually this last contract
(39:32):
while it's been airing. Um, but you know we won't
be in that house, you know. Okay, that's actually setting
something up for himself at the moment, and then we'll
probably move in that one. Yeah together. Yeah, we're looking
like a year in Austin at least. Yeah, okay, Yeah,
(39:53):
we love Austin. Yeah, it's a great city. I've only
been there once, but I would go back to the heartbeat.
It's there's so much to do. The people are super friendly,
really good food. So that's a good spot to land
one and I think like a good start, a good
city to start this next chapter in in together, it's
going to be so exciting. Well, is there anything that
(40:15):
you're nervous for? I have either of you lived with
a partner before? Is this both of your first times?
I haven't. I haven't lived with anybody yet, like actual
full time. This would be the first time. Yeah, Katie's space.
It'll be fun. It'll be I mean, I will say,
there's going to be times where you will need some space,
(40:36):
So just have like a code word or a separate
room that you can just go in and like do
your own thing. But you guys will have a blast.
It's it's really fun living with your best friend. He
knows he's really good with me, like he knows that
I need my space to kind of like recharge, and
just because my life's so chaotical it has been, but
(40:59):
he's always so good. He's like, do you need some space?
Are you okay? And it's not because I like giving
attitude or anything. He just he knows me, and he's like, okay,
Like this might be a time where like, yeah, but
I'll try not they get in the way and let
you deal with stuff because that's yeah, he's if you
can find a place with two separate bathrooms, that is
(41:21):
the advice I would give you, Like have Zach's quarters
and Katie's quarters in the bathrooms. I feel like you
would butt heads if like we were messy people, but
this one is so organized, Like so organized you are,
And then I'm like flagging my stuff around UCA with
(41:44):
the hangers already. Yeah, but you keep your hangers on
your clothes in the suitcase? Yeah? Is that crazy? Where
so I could just like pull them out and hang
them up anywhere? Ago Okay, Wait, are you the type
of person that every time you go somewhere you have
to unpack your clothes, Like you go to any hotel
and you have to hang your clothes or put him
in the dresser shirts shirts. No, every time I come
(42:07):
to a happy couple's weekend, everything is like his shirts
are piled up in the closet or in a drawer,
and then he's got things hung I'm like, oh my goodness,
I didn't know that you did the hangar thing because
every time you're here first, so I don't see you
take your hanger. I just bring my own hangers. Yeah,
because I don't know. I like a hotel will have
it all, and I just like because it Yeah, I
(42:29):
just like the suitcase grabbed the shirts that are on
the hangars. Boom, doesn't that just take up extra space?
And wait though in your suitcase? Yeah, yeah, I've got
a pretty big suitcase. Oh my gosh, this is so funny, Katie,
you're learning something new about him. Katy's like, I don't
know how I feel about that. Okay, I have to
(42:52):
ask this question, and apologies in advance because I hated
every time I was asked this, like right after the alley.
But I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't
ask it. Because the show is about finding love and
getting engaged. Have you had any ideas plans, thoughts, timeline
(43:14):
in regards to a wedding, I could take it um so,
like Katie and I have talked about it, and we
think that, you know, since we've been going a million
miles an hour on the like you know, the show
is it's a rushed environment, like that's the nature of it.
And we think we have the rust of our lives
(43:34):
to have, like to spend with each other, that we
don't need to rush a wedding or rush anything. Everything
up until this point, in a sense, it's been rushed.
So we decided, like we're just going to enjoy and
focus on our move to Austin together, do life out there,
have our friends owe me, Just just get that time
together and then yeah, we'll figure it out. Like bre
(43:55):
no rush, I love her to death and all going
to work. Yeah, I respect that. I mean take time
now because it's going to be so different from what
you have been experiencing. So do your own thing on
your own timeline. Yeah. No pressure, Yeah, kind of like
takes like a pressure off everything because it's like while
(44:16):
this has been airing and like even in the show,
like you there's an immense amount of pressure on everything.
And now it's just like, right, we get to do
as much of a normal life as we can now.
And yeah, I could see the next two years, but
I think little ones, yeah, oh little babies. Well, I
(44:38):
can't wait to see what happens next for you both.
It's going to be such a wild but fun time.
Things will calm down eventually, and then you'll finally feel
like you're in a routine and like the dust to settle,
which is the best part truly. Okay, so before we
get into wrapping up all of this for both of you,
(45:00):
I mean, you've lived it now and Zach, you've now
lived two seasons. If you had any advice to share
with anyone out there, either looking for love or even
potentially like thinking about going on this crazy journey, what
advice would you give them? M good question. I would say,
(45:24):
just be yourself, and I think also try to be
the best version of yourself before giving yourself to someone
else too. It's beautiful, it's beautiful. That's that's odd, that's me.
(45:46):
I would say, like maybe more specific to like someone
putting themselves out there like in this show environment like
to find love, And I was like asked this question,
I think like for advice for charity, but it can
be like for just people. And love is I have
fun with like everything you can, because it's like like
(46:09):
love is something that is so fun and exciting and
sure it's scary, but it's like one of the best
feelings about the best feelings in the world, like falling
in love and having your person, So have fun with it, Like,
don't like overcomplicate it, don't stress it, like I made
mistakes in the show of trying to overcomplicate of you know,
the you know, the path to get there, when in reality,
(46:30):
it's just like letting yourself feel and have fun. And
love is a pretty great thing. So just have fun
is an amazing thing. Yeah, look at those smiles, you
two little submitting kittens over here. Okay, well this is
the perfect time. Then we're going to get into our
little game here. It's our newly engaged game. Very simple. Basically,
(46:54):
I'm going to throw a question at you and you
both have to answer at the same time, whether it's
Zach or Katie. So I'll throw like the question, the
one liner out to you and just say which one
of you two it is. So okay, let's start with
this one. Who is more romantic Zach Zack. Yeah. Who
(47:16):
has the cleaner car? Three two one? Okay? Who is
more organized? Three two one? This is a good one.
Who is more stubborn? Three two one? A woman after
my own heart? Who is the pick year eater? Three
(47:38):
two one. I'm gonna go well, yeah, I don't like
spicy foods. You don't like eggs, but I feel like
that equals it out. Okay. Next question, who takes longer
to get ready? Three two one? Who's the better to answer?
Three two one? Ya? No? Wait really? Who is the
(48:05):
better driver? Three two one? Okay? Next question, who is
the funny one? Three two one? Okay? Who's the better cook?
Three two one. You can't just say both every and
I didn't. I cook really good sammon. You cook really
good steaks and other protein. I think we bounced each
(48:28):
other out and we make good meals, great meals. Yeah,
last question here, and then we can wrap this up
and get to the fun stuff too. Who spends more
time on social media? Three two one, yeah, Katie? Alright, Well,
it's a good way to pass the time, especially when
you're stuck in a house for four days. Um, go
(48:50):
on social media at all? Like I'm on my phone.
It's probably like a puzzle game. Are reading emails like
that's yeah, I'm not a big social Yeah, well that's
probably the best. I mean, this is also such a
crazy time where as you both have seen like people
either love you or they hate you, and it's just
it can be a very scary place. So that's probably
(49:11):
good to just stay off social media for a while.
All right, let's get into our last part, which is
our resource section of the podcast. Now, Zach, I know
you know how this goes, but Katie, basically we love
to keep our listeners informed and up to date on
very important topics. So I will kick it off and
(49:34):
then I will let you two go. So my resource
for this week, it's a docu series called Eyes on
the Prize and it's basically broken up by like different years,
time frames, decades, but it's the docum series is about
different events and people that have basically helped end the
(49:54):
countries or helped try aim to eradicate this country's long
standing history of discrimination and segregation. Obviously, we still have
ways to go, but that is my resource, Eyes on
the Prize, and now you too, if you have one
that you would like to share, please do, so I
(50:14):
would say, I think incorporating me as a nurse, my
profession and diversity in ones kind of neat. So with
my line of work, especially in the emergency department, we
have this association called e NA, so Emergency Nurses Association,
and it's an organization that actually represents a lot of
(50:35):
nurses and they have a web page that supports DI
and it just embodies equality as well as oh my god,
you know, it's like, it's like it's cool because it's
they staff like emergency nurses across the country, but they
staff of all backgrounds and they go through all hospitals
(50:57):
regardless of background, raised, religion, anything like that, and that's
like their prerogative. Cool. It supports like volunteers. It also
wants like a bunch of courses and resources that just
integrate all that. So it's super cool, awesome. I feel
like that's so important in I mean really any career path,
(51:19):
but especially for nursing in the healthcare field. It's so needed.
So thank you for sharing that. And now is the
last fun part before you can go out and live
your lives. This is our this is our rose and thorn.
So basically your highlight, best favorite moment or memory from
(51:41):
this entire time, whether it was filming, whether it was
during the time when we were getting to know each
other during like this limbo phase, or now and then
obviously the thorn is the opposite. So an awkward moment,
a moment you maybe wish it didn't happen, or learning lesson.
So with that YouTube take it away, I'll do the
(52:02):
rose and then you do a thorn. I would say
the rose would be me getting the final rose. Valid, yeah,
and my roses marrying my best friend and my thorn.
Are you doing both? Okay? Well, I was just I
(52:23):
had um and then my my thorn is uh, kind
of the the events of the week prior the way
I went into the week, the way I tried to
create parameters and these really unnecessary boundaries and having it
(52:48):
affect everyone's the way it did, like that was not
my intention and ever was and yet it kind of
doesn't matter. It was. It was a decision I made,
and it's it's something I looked back with regret on
how I handled it. But that was a really tough moment.
But I'm learning and a growing point for me, and
(53:09):
well said being yeah, well you two we are so
excited for you. As I said, the best is yet
to come, but you're just going to have so much
more to look forward to as a partnership now. So
if you ever need anything, we're always here. If you
need advice or whatever it might be, please let me know.
(53:31):
If you're ever in southern California, come hang out with
me and Tommy. We'll take you out to dinner to
celebrate you too. But we can't wait to see where
this life takes you and to see this next chapter
in Austin, So enjoy it. I'll go have fun you
two crazy kids. Oh my gosh, well what a fun episode.
(53:53):
I know that you all can listen. You can't see
the happy couple, but they really looks so in love.
They look so happy and just really at ease, and
there's just this beautiful comfort level between them that you
can just it's coming through the screen here and so
I'm so thrilled for them. Please send all of your
(54:15):
well wishes their way. And yeah, thanks for tuning in
each and every week to us on Happy Hour. We
obviously couldn't be here without all of our listeners. And
one last thanks to Zach and Kabie for joining us today.
I know their schedules are going to be crazy busy,
but we appreciate them hopping on Happy Hour, so everyone
(54:35):
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Shires
Welcome back, happy our listeners. I'm Becky Kouffrin, and this
week I am riding solo. I'm taking you to the
finish line that is the finale of Zach's season. It's
crazy that we are already here. I feel like this
season at times has just flew by, and at times
it seemed extra lung, but we made it. And today
(00:23):
we will have a very fun episode because we are
sitting down with the newest Bachelor Nation couple, Zach and
Katie together for well not the first time because they
obviously did the finale, but one of the first interviews
with this happy couple. So we're excited to hear from
them all about their experience, how life has been after filming,
and hopefully get some plans, some juicy details for their
(00:48):
future as fiances. They can finally say that I'm sure
it feels great for them. So before we bring them on,
we're not going to do a full recap today, only
because we have the couple with us. They lived it,
they were there. They can give us their first hand
experience of everything that went down during that crazy week.
But when I was watching this final episode, I was
(01:11):
just going down memory lane, remembering how I was feeling
during that last week with emotions and such strong feelings
between two people. It's never easy like that week, truly is.
It's one of the happiest times, but it's also, at
the same exact time, one of the most stressful, anxiety written,
(01:34):
really sad times, because you not only are hopefully starting
your new life with your partner, but you're also saying
goodbye to somebody that you have been falling in love with.
And it's a really weird juxtaposition that you can find
yourself in. And so Zach is one of the few
leads who had to experience all of that craziness, so
(01:55):
we will get his experience firsthand once we bring them on,
but before that, we'll just do a little fun catchup
for all of you listeners. I have some fun news
to share. Thomas and I are finally, finally, finally in
our house. I know it has been a long time coming.
We have talked about it week after week on this podcast,
(02:17):
but our house is ninety three percent finished. We're finally
sleeping in it, we're living in it, we're cooking in it.
And we actually had our first little gathering of friends
over the other night and if anyone follows me or
anyone in Bachelor Nation on social media, you'll see that
(02:38):
we had a little reunion with Abigail and Noah, and
we had Justin and Andrew in town and Mikey p
and Rodney. It was all for Rodney's birthday, so we
finally could open our doors and welcome some friends and
just cook and eat a crap ton of ice cream
and have game nights and drink wine and so that
(02:59):
has been like the most exciting part of my life
right now. Not to make this all about me, but
that's been a really exciting thing for us. So you'll
finally hear me stop talking about the renovations. I know
we've been talking about it since July, so you're welcome.
But yeah, that's it's a good week. I think to
celebrate all around. And before we do any more celebrating,
(03:24):
once we bring Katie and Zach on, we really want
to celebrate their love because again, this is the first
time that they're in public and they can do the
little things like go to the grocery store and hold
hands in the street and even say each other's names
in public. So we'll get into the into that, but
I do also want to just bring up how incredible
(03:45):
all of the women have been this season, especially Gabby.
We saw her in the finale and and I'm sure
anyone watching the breakup between her and Zach, I mean,
I'm sure you've felt it, and you've felt the emotions
with Gabby, and you could feel for her in that moment. Gabby,
you have remained if you're listening, you have remained classy
until the very end, and you've still kept your spunk
(04:09):
and your quirk. And so we're also wishing Gabby the
best in whatever's to come in this next chapter of
her life. It's never easy seeing somebody get broken up with,
especially on such a public platform. But Gabby, we love
you and we're supporting you from afar, and I think
only good things are going to be coming for you
(04:29):
in the future. Who knows if that's paradise or what
that might mean. But I can't forget about about Gabby
here before we get into everything. But I think with
all of that, like I said, we're not going to
do a full recap because I want to hear it
from the horse's mouth themselves. So I think, without further ado, everyone,
I'm going to be bringing on Zach and Katie for
(04:50):
the first time on Happy Hour as a couple, as
the newly engaged love birds. So please welcome Zach and
Katie to a Happy Hour. Well, welcome you two love birds.
It's fun to finally see you two together in the flesh.
(05:12):
How does it feel now that you can finally say
each other's names in public? It feels so good, finally,
truly a long time coming. Like the amount of times
we like have to go secret code names on our
phone and like you have to meet up at secret
locations to see each other no more. Okay, I need
(05:32):
to know what were your code names for one another? Oh?
My god? So he actually had quite a few in
my phone. Um, but the one that lasted the longest
was Lucy. Lucy okay, the picture Lucy with a monkey
because his favorite animals a monkey. How did we pick
up Lucy? I think because I didn't have any friends
(05:56):
who were named Lucy, and I somebody saw it in
my phone and he'd like, oh, I work with them,
and they'd be like, oh okay, gotcha, Okay, And then
what was the other one? So for for Katie it
was and how always has been this It's been a
purple heart emoji because your favorite comes purple dolphin right after,
because dolphins are your favorite animal. I have like, I mean,
(06:20):
I was just like going to show it off. They're like,
who's purple heart dolphin emode? Like you'd liked in that one? Yea.
I'm just thinking, like if I was sitting behind you,
like in a grocery store seeing this, I'd be like,
who what what is this? Yeah? That's so funny. I
love the Lucy nickname. I actually named my car after Yeah,
(06:40):
because I love Lucy. I love that. What has been
the hardest part during this waiting period for you both?
I think like we both just wanted to, like go
to the coffee shop together. We just want to go
out for dinner, and you really do get to know
(07:00):
people when you go out for dinner house somebody treats
a server or even like hanging out with each other's friends, Like,
we don't see that. So I think we were itching
for that. But I think also there was such a
positive of being isolated and you know, a house together,
and we learned so much about one another, and I
don't take that for granted at all. But yeah, I
(07:23):
think we were both super excited to just just too
normal life stuff. That was what we were like itching for,
you know, on all the happy couple of visits, it's like, oh,
like one did just be great if we could go
to dinner tonight or like just go on a hike
or walk the city or do this and that. But
what Kai was saying of we started to appreciate the
(07:44):
fact that we had our own little bubble and we
had all this time to just talk and cover like
a lot of things that we don't get the time
to while we're in the show, and huge for us.
And so we actually looked back on it, or we
talked about it a little bit briefly of as much
as we want to rush into like going to the
(08:04):
restaurants and coffee shops and just doing normal life stuff,
I think there's going to be a moment when we
look back and think like, oh, that was kind of
like a sweet time we had together where we had
to be so secretive and that's a once in a
lifetime being yeah, having to be so yeah. And also
life catches up to you like he's going back to work,
I'm going back to work, and you know we're gonna
(08:26):
have busy schedules, so I think, like, just like having
this moment, no nothing in the way, no distractions, nothing,
just solely intimate time with you. It was, but we
are very much you're ready. I get it. I remember
those those months, and especially like those last couple of weeks.
It's they seem to just drag on so long, and
(08:48):
all you want to do is share with the world,
because I'm sure most of your friends and family know
by now. But again, you're in this weird limbo phase
where you're like, Okay, I love this person. I'm ready
to like take this next step, but I can't quite
get there yet. I have a two part question. Okay, okay,
so two part question for you both. Now, Zach, you
(09:12):
seem like a rule follower, which I am too. I
appreciate rules. I like the structure, unless I've had a
little too much wine. Then I get kind of loosey goosey.
But Katie, I obviously don't know you that well. So
when you were in these happy couple houses, did you
at any point throw on disguises, have wigs, hats, glasses,
(09:35):
and did you ever sneak out and do a little walk.
That's my first question, and then adding on to that,
What was like the main thing you did to pass
the time? Do you play games, do you cook? Do
you just chat? What did your days look like? Yeah,
I would say we for sure got a little We
(09:56):
were very cooped up in the house and we did
need to go for a walk. So yeah, we did
do some disguises, um hats, glasses, the full thing, hoody
on it. We actually looked more were suspicious probably looking
back at it. Yeah, but like it's just not realistic.
You can't keep us in a house for forty straight
and like not know what the weather's like outside. So anyways,
(10:20):
I and I'm an outdoorsy personally, Like I was losing
my marbles going inside, like staying inside. So yeah, we
definitely did go for some walks, but like we were
still like we were good about it. We were Yeah,
we were smart about it, like we like early on obviously, Yeah,
I'm the rule of follower, and like you were like,
we're going on a walking like our first one, and
(10:41):
I was like, oh, the baby, Like what if she's
on We're going and You're like, we're going in here,
and we did it totally fine. Um, I think every
every happico but we were. I mean we sometimes twice
sometimes yeah, like long and one. Yeah, but what we
did that past the time in the in the house,
we played a lot of like obviously a little bit
(11:02):
of drinking here and there, lots of wine board games
type like type of board games like Jenga, and we
played a lot of like drinking Jenga. Anytime there's a
pool or a hot tap, we'll do that corn hole. Yeah,
we did do that. I would say we played a
lot of games that got to know each other. So
(11:23):
there was like card games that would be like okay,
asking your partner, like what their biggest like insecurity is
stuff like that. We played a lot of those games
and we got great. They're so well oh yeah, yeah good. Yeah.
That's so important and especially the going off of what
(11:43):
you both said earlier, like this is the time and
as annoying as it is when you don't want to
have to be so secluded for so long, it is
nice because you are in this protected space just to
truly kind of just playing off of the show. You
just spend that one on one uninterrupted alone time with somebody. Okay,
before we get into all of the fun, the finale,
(12:05):
the engagement, all of the happiness sac. I do just
have one question for you, because this is something that
happened at the very beginning of this last episode where
I was just a little confused, and it happened probably
within like the first ten minutes. I would say, and
you're basically to set the scene, and I understand how
(12:28):
crazy this last week is. It's one of your happiest
times because you know you're finally going to have the
beginning of this life with your partner starting, but you
also know that you have a really hard goodbye to
get to. Before that point, you made a comment of
like you have regrets and and you know you were
(12:51):
like working through the decisions that you had made the
week prior, and it was like really taking a toll
on you. But then like within five minutes and I'm
sorry to bring up Gabby in front of you, because
you guys are you know she is part of this episode.
But Gabby Zach had questioned you at one point of
like do you have any regrets, and in that moment
(13:13):
you said no, basically like I don't have any regrets.
I wouldn't change anything, And for me, as if you were,
I was just left a little confused because I was like,
does he have regrets about like the actions that took
place or like the boundaries he set. So if you
would just really quick set the scene and kind of
just speak on that a bit more for all of
(13:33):
the viewers to understand where your headspace was during that,
like that whole conversation. Yeah, yeah, And I think that's
where it could easily be seen as like a little
confusing or muddy. And you know how I view that
entire like the Fantasy Suite week with you know, me
(13:54):
setting up those parameters, Like I looked back at that,
and I still look back at that. That was regret
and that's where I made mistakes and I know I
could have been better and I didn't need to do that,
and that's always on me. So yeah, I could have
done a lot of things better, you know, and talking
with Gabby when I'm like talking about like our experience together,
(14:16):
our relationship at the time, that there's no regret because
that's like getting to know the person and that's how
things took to get to the point that they were,
if that makes sense. But how the Fantasy Suite week
went as a whole of me kind of derailing it.
That was a regret. So, like I know, they probably
back to back, and it looks like, Okay just said
(14:38):
he has all these regrets but no regrets Gabby. Well,
I don't have any regrets with that relationship with Gabby,
but I regrets on that entire week of me accidentally
derailing everything. Okay, I kind of figured that that, oh totally,
And I kind of figured that's what the situation was,
(14:58):
and that's why you were saying that. But again, like
people who watch the show, like they only hear one
certain thing and that's kind of what they go off of.
So I wanted to give you the space to be
able to alleviate any confusion there, So thank you for that.
Now let's get into this final week because you were
prepping months to find your partner you obviously did. Let's
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take it back now to when you guys are finally
on that stage together during after the final Rows officially
as a couple. What were you most excited about, like
leading up to that moment for both of you. I mean,
this person foremost just excited to show her off like
(15:42):
to everyone, Like I want, you know, like all my
family to spend time with her, all my friends. I
want to do like the life of going to restaurants,
coffee shops, like just do that together. And this like
moment on stage is like kind of that kickoff point
of like this is the rest of our lives together.
And so it was just getting to that moment, Like
(16:03):
I know, we were both pretty nervous, and I mean
when there's like a live crowd, it's terrifying, so terrifying.
But it was just like after this, like it's a
new chapter for us and I can't wait. So yeah,
I agree with everything insane truly. Yeah, was there anything
that you were slightly nervous for going into that? And
(16:26):
like the live cameras are pretty scary. There's both of you, yes,
Katie take it away. Um uh, maybe stumbling in my
heels because I can't walk in heels. But now, I
don't think I was any I wasn't nervous or anything.
I was just super excited to just finally be sitting
on that couch with you. And yeah, yeah, I don't know,
(16:48):
just starting our lives. I think that's like the that
was the point that we were waiting for. It's just
being able to announce it. And I know, and I'm
so tired of being on that stage, not with her.
I know. Yeah, it's those moments that you want to
share with your partner and you can't quite until last night.
(17:10):
So I get it. It's it was a long time coming.
You both looked lovely, and I mean, we're excited to
see I feel like this was just the jump start
to everything. I will warn you you do have a
crazy couple weeks ahead with a lot of press. I
will tell you right now, anywhere you go out in public,
whether it's even on a walk, a grocery store, out
(17:34):
to dinner, you will be bombarded. So prep now. Try
to always carry dental foss with you so you don't
have food in your teeth because that was my problem
for a while. But people, you'll just receive so much
love and support and people just like want to share
in that with you. So I'm warning you now your
cheeks are going to be burning from smiling. But but
(17:58):
enjoy it one time. Okay, let's go back to So
you spent the last two weeks of the finale in Thailand,
which it's such a beautiful place. Was that have you
either of you been there before or was that your
first times I've been there? Yeah, we've both actually been there.
That was the only place I've been to outside of
the country. But actually before this whole thing, okay, okay,
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did you I mean taking the show out of it,
were you either of you able to experience like anything
new culturally, culturally, with the food anything. No, No, you
were like you were like I was stuck in my
hotel room. When I wasn't on back in my hotel room.
Some of the girls actually went and did stuff like
(18:42):
Ariel she went and hung out with elephants. Gabby was
riding around on her bike and all this stuff. And
I was in a pool drinking. That sounds lovely too, Yeah,
I mean, yeah, you can do that in any countom. Yeah,
they had to experience whole lot. I mean, as we
saw in the last episode, monkeys almost attacked me. So
(19:04):
that was new. The monkeys. They're aggressive out there, so aggressive,
like scare the crap. You can't carry anything, you can't
have a backpacks. They'll come out and like they'll take
your water bottle or they'll take your food whatever, and
had no shad. They're like, no, their whole family like
(19:27):
comes after you. They're intense. They're intense. Okay, what was
that last week, like for both of you, I mean, Zach,
obviously you were able to see your family for the
first time in months, and Katie that was your first
time meeting them. What was it like going into that
can Katie? For you, did you learn anything knew about
Zach from his family that you didn't know before? I
(19:49):
think it just validated and confirmed that he had an
amazing heart. And just hearing what his mom had to say,
like his dad, as sisters, everything was just yeah, just
confirmed that. You know, I know your mom said that
you were more traditional, and I think I was like, Okay,
I didn't really realize that, but I think that's what
(20:09):
I maybe learned. But other than that, it was just
kind of like just confirming that he had an amazing
heart and I already already knew that at that point.
But yeah, Zach, what was it like for you seeing Katie?
What are you whispering? Okay? For everyone listening, they're just
so cute. Zach's just like whispering probably sweet. Nothing insideo
(20:30):
Katie's ear. Oh my gosh, you guys are actually very adorable,
and I would say it's annoying, but I also feel
the same way about my partner, So keep keep at it,
keep at it, Zach. What was it like for you
being able to see Katie interact with your family for
(20:52):
that first time. I mean, I mean I was so
excited to have her actually finally me like my mom
and my dad. I was like what I was most
excited about. I knew she she'd get along with my sisters.
I mean, my sisters are crack ups, and I don't
know like how much of their personality has really shown
or not, but they're awesome, and I know you've got
along with it. But talking to your sisters with like
(21:14):
talking to my friends, Yeah, it was. It felt very comfortable. Yeah. Yeah,
And I remember like seeing you after the fact and
I was like, like I knew it went well, like
I could just tell um, but also like what my
family like told me afterwards, it was just like, yeah,
it's just different, like with you too. There's this aura
like around you both, and I was like, I know,
(21:36):
like I just and I don't know, it was just
like everything went smooth. I know. My dad kind of
scared you a little bit big, I'm gonna tell you this.
He was very jet lagged, had quite a bit of
whiskey and that man and talk. So he I've been
apologizing ever since the gave me about that all because
(22:00):
he's really a big teddy bearer. But he had too
much check in. Yeah, yeah, he kind of bribed me
a little bit. I thought for sure more of the
uncomfortable conversation would come from his mom for some reason,
I don't know why. And then I thought it would
go like really smoothly with his dad. But his dad
just like laid into me, and I was like, kind
(22:22):
of take him back a little bit, not like laid
into me in a bad way, but just kind of
like I remember. And I always bring this up to Zach,
but he's like, it was like all fun in games.
And then he's like, so, what happens when the commission
check doesn't come in? What do you do? I'm like,
that was not shown. This is, I mean good point
what happens in me? I was like, oh yeah, So
(22:46):
I was like sitting there freaking out. And then I
was like, where is Zach? Yeah, well that's so funny
because we didn't I mean, obviously they can only include
such a short bit of each conversation, but what we
did see with you and Katie, I actually thought it
was very special and just so real. Is you got
(23:06):
pretty emotional with his entire family, and I don't think
correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think you were
expecting that right, Like not that it got heavy, but
you just I felt like we're so overcome with your
emotion and your love and your respect for this man
that that was like a moment where for me a Tovie,
I was like, damn, she really does love this man. Yeah, no, absolutely,
(23:31):
And I think it just became like very surreal for
me too. I mean there, I mean it was before,
but I think it was like I can see myself
in this family, and it just like it was like
a lot of it was like tears of joy, I think,
but it was overwhelming, like your life's about to turn
upside down. It could go good or could go bad.
(23:55):
So yeah, lots of tears for sure. But so Zach,
I know when we had you on a couple of
weeks ago, now, we had talked a little bit about
like hometowns and where you were at in terms of
getting parents blessings. Were you at any point able before
you proposed to Katie at the end able to call
(24:19):
Katie's parents and ask for that or was it once
you returned? And I'm just assuming you asked for the
blessing now, but I could be very wrong. But when
were you able to do that with her family? I
asked for her mom's blessing when I met her out
in Austin, so it was it was not the week
and I met her lovely family that is so much fun.
(24:40):
And I was like really like nervous for that conversation
with her mom man, and I just like Relea, saw
a future there and I wanted her to like feel
comfortable with me possibly being in their family. And it
was really important to me to make sure that you
know that she approved of me possibly joining the family. So, oh,
(25:02):
you little sneaks, because I know when we asked you,
you played so cool. You were like, no, I didn't
necessarily want to do that unless I knew it was
like the person okay, okay, let's coming together. I think
you asked everybody, well well out of respect, yeah yeah,
yeah yeah. It wasn't like a yeah gaydies the one
(25:23):
at that point now because maybe he did know Za
okay for both of you. Well, okay, Zach, I'm just
gonna ask you this, And when was the one moment
that you knew and I will and I will say
this too, because the show does a great job of
showing all love stories and showing all relationships and connections,
(25:43):
and obviously at the end, I mean, no surprise, there's
two people left. And we always they always show like
this struggle of like I don't quite know up until
like the last moment. That is false. People. Sometimes people
just know ahead of time. So Zach, on the record,
when did you know it was Katie? Yeah, on the record,
(26:07):
on the record, so like the exact like moment where
I mean it was, it was without a doubt, I
I knew without any slipper was when I saw her
at the Last Chance Date when we were at at
the waterfall. Immediately I put my eyes on her and
I was like, I'm an idiot, like like, it's it's you,
(26:32):
It's been you. What was the what was the energy
of that last date? Like and I hate that they
call it the last Chance day because it sounds like
fine new person. Yeah right, it's like such a hail Mary,
like let me just lob this ball down and see
where it lands. It has such it's it just sounds
so terrible. I wish they had a different name for it.
(26:54):
But what was the energy like? I you know, because
I'm not either one of you, and I have a
completely different experience of what my last dates were, but
for both of you, what was the energy like going
into that? I thought it was pretty good. I mean,
definitely based on the last date more than yeah, like
(27:17):
anything is better than that. Yeah, no, But I think overall,
I mean for me, and obviously you say you're piece
on it too, but I thought it was it was
good for sure, Like I was happy going into it.
I was a little like I think, just like with
the show, I was just like like ready to not
(27:39):
be in front of a camera anymore. I just wanted
to take him in that moment, just let's let's get
out of here, screw this and all that. But no,
it was really good. It was really sweet, and I
really liked the evening portion of our date. But um,
all of it was just really good. Yeah, Katie. Usually
during that time, I'm like, we're expect I'm saying we like,
(28:03):
I'm still part of the show with you, but we're
expected to give the lead or make the lead a
little gift. Did you that night happen? Thing? For Zach.
I did. And I've never even talked to you about this.
We've never talked about never. Um so I actually think
it was hometowns is when it was kind of like
(28:24):
we started talking about it because we were obviously going
to Thailand, but so we made I made a door knocker,
so it's like for our first home and it says
home to home, Welcome to Zach and Katie's house. I
had no idea do you still have it your house
(28:47):
in Canada? But oh my, actually funny, my mom, when
I was I was packing to come here, I was
looking at it, and my Mom's like, what is that?
And I was like, oh, it's give that I was
supposed to give Zach but we never actually did it.
Oh my gosh, me, I'm like it is sweet. I
was like, uh, I have the chills up. Well, that's
(29:10):
actually very precious because and I do want to get
into your future plans. But I feel like, now this
is perfect timing to hang it on your door wherever.
I mean, you already had Zach help you put together
furniture and everything. Oh yeah, this is just a great addition. Smart.
I can screw in a light bulb pretty well. Yeah,
Oh my gosh, that's so cute. Okay, so let's get
(29:35):
down to the last big best day, Zach. How did
you prepare for that? Did you have a game plan
of what you wanted to say? Were you just gonna
kind of wing it because this was the first time,
and correct me if I'm wrong here, but this was
the first time you were gonna tell Katie you loved her?
(29:56):
Correct Yeah, yeah, okay, So talk us through your headspace
and like a plan for that day. So it was
actually like the night before I started. I wanted to
have something prepared because I really wanted her to know,
like how much she means to me, how much I
love her. And I wanted it, you know, to be like,
(30:17):
you know, like beautifully written if I could. But I
just wanted to be really special for her. And so
I started the night before and then I continued it
like in the morning, and when everything was all said
and I was up on that stage and she was
walking towards me, I mean, my knees were trembling, like
I was like my voice was already starting to crack,
and I was like I couldn't contain my smile, and
(30:40):
I was like, oh shit, this whole like script I
had in my head of like what I want to
say to her before I get on one knee, like
I'm gonna try to remember it. And I remember just
going on and I was getting emotional because I was
so happy and just seeing like you look looking at
your eyes and falling more and more in love. And
I think you just said, just kissed me Oladier. I did,
(31:01):
and I wanted something, you know, prepared, but like once
I was just up there, it was just you spoke
from the heart, truly, you could tell. Yeah. I was like,
I like, I wrote out a speech and then I
was like trying to memorize that. I'm like, I'm gonna
fumble the bag. I'm gonna like I don't know, like
just my words are gonna get all jumbled up and whatever.
(31:22):
But yeah, I don't think I did. I remember, No,
you did. I did. I found you did not fumble you.
You crushed it. You did not fumble anything. Well, both
of you. I think you spoke from the heart. And
and this is something that I saw. I really think
I saw with you two on your first date and
just throw but like even now, you both just have
(31:45):
this ease about you between the two of you like it.
You just seem obviously you're so happy right now, but
you just also seem so calm and like you center
each other, which is really special. And I think that
last day. Usually you can kind of tell if like
something seems rehearsed, and people like ran through certain things
in their head, but for both of you, it just
(32:07):
seemed to flow, as you said, from the heart. It
was really beautiful. So one thing that I want to
ask both of you, because especially in the moment of
the proposal and finally be able to say I love
you and know that it's just the two of you
from here and not there's so much excitement. I'm sure
there were so many giggles and inside jokes and just
(32:29):
like you were just elated. Obviously they can't all be shown.
So was there anything during that last day that you
both remember that sucho to you that we just missed
his viewers. You all mean, I'll take it away, so
after the reason it happened, I want, okay, because this
(32:52):
is still a conversation. At some point after the proposal,
there's this beautiful swing right on the sand, it's overlooking
the water. We're just having this amazing time We're like,
like we look like kids running around and we see
this swing and we're like, yeah, screw it, let's just
(33:12):
get on this swing together. And she's holding onto me,
and I'm like getting the swing ready, but I think
she's holding onto the swing, so I'm just holding onto her.
So we have no foundation on this right now. And
on our first little swing up, we both fall completely
on the back of our heads, smack dab on top
(33:33):
of the minds that we had on us, like totally
like yeah, screwing up our bodies covered in sand, and
it was so funny. Yeah, And then you see like
all the producers that can't remember being like, oh are
you okay? And I'm like laughing my ass off in
the sand. I'm like, this is so funny as if
its happened all I see. My last memory was just
(33:55):
seeing your heels go up in the sky. Yeah, like,
oh my gosh. And of course you're wearing a white
dressed too, right, of course that's how it happens. They're
probably damn it. We need the paramedics for these newly
engaged people. Those are the best. So that's like, those
are moments that I wish they included in the bloopers
because like, and we were probably on cloud nine. You're like,
(34:16):
this doesn't even hurt, but like, it is what it is, Katie,
I have to tell you this. We're all over the
place here, but I have to say the way that
you say sorry, I feel like I'm saying it like
you know, I find it so endearing. Thank you. Yeah,
a lot of people thought it was psychotic the way
that I said it, but I mean, I can't change it.
(34:39):
Oh this Canadian about it. I think we were in
Estonia when we brought it up. We were bringing up
like how you can hear my accent. I'm like, okay,
you say sorry, and then we're like back and forth
saying and I'm like, and there's another one story and
oh he thinks I say about weird like a boot No, no,
(35:00):
you do. It is a very Canadian like Midwest thing
about about oh about Zach. You're gonna start picking it up.
You're gonna start talking like Katie, I'm telling you so
she already has me on the Hey, that's a pretty
good thing. Ah Hey, oh yeah, I say a lot.
It's moving down to the States. Everybody's like when a
(35:21):
Canadian says ay it's like this huge thing. You're like
the Canadians. I was like, I'm from Minnesota, so we're neighbors,
so I feel like we do very similar things. Um, okay,
So one thing during the proposal that I kind of
knew what was coming, Zach, but Katie your face for
(35:43):
a hot second, you were like, oh, which way is
this gonna go? So, Zach, right before you tell Katie
that you love her, you like, you know, you lead
into this beautiful speech of like, you know, I've gotten
to know you, and I'm I'm paraphrasing here, but it
was like I've been falling in love with you. And
then you hesitate and you give a little pause there
(36:05):
and Katie's face, Katie's face, they zoom in and she
doesn't quite know which way it's going to go. So Katie,
was there a slight moment where you were like, oh shit,
this is not gonna go my way? I think, yeah,
there's obviously that in the back of your head it's like, Okay,
this this might not be me, which is so scary
(36:28):
and the thought of it is extremely devastating because my
whole heart belonged to him. But yeah, I think I was.
I was confident. I think like before that moment, like
walking out, I was talking to Jesse before I walked
around the corner, and I was confident, and I was
(36:50):
confident in us. But you still don't know. But I'm
also confident in who I am too and what I
have to offer. And I think I was like, it
is what it is at this point, he either loves
me or he doesn't, and everything happens for a reason.
I think I just kind of had that outlook, but
I did have a confidence that it was gonna be me. Okay,
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so let's get into future plans. So last one on stage,
you announced that you two are moving in together. Give
us like a little timeline and what that looks like. Yeah,
So basically, after all this press and chaos that we have,
(37:36):
Zach is going to go back to Anaheim. He's gonna
pack all this stuff up and he's going to drive
the Austin. I start a contract, so I'm going to
be living separately for three months, and then we're going
to move in together in the summer. Yeah, in Austin. Correct. Yeah, Okay,
how exciting. What are you both most looking forward to
(38:06):
about finally cohabitating? This waking up to you every morning.
Really yeah, this is morning person. Wow. Yeah, I cannot
wait for just like every morning to roll over like
I usually get Like, I'm pretty energetic in the morning,
(38:28):
is like randomly as when it hits me. And she's
a little bit slower to get energy in the morning.
So I love just rolling over and the thought of
just every day rolling over seeing your face, kissing the
hell out of it, Like, give me ten more minutes. Yeah,
and that's fine. So just just the go to bed
and I every night with each other and waking up
(38:49):
thing doing life together, like the random stuff. Yeah, nothing specific,
just I guess you're doing it, doing it. Yeah. So
when you brought him back for your hometown, Katie, we
saw him, you know, you put him to work. He
was putting together some furniture. Is that the apartment that
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you will both be living in? Are you going to
find a new one for both of you? Um? No,
so that place. I don't live in there anymore. Travel
nurses that once you're done a contract usually just like
get a new place. Um. So I was in a
different I was in a studio actually this last contract
(39:32):
while it's been airing. Um, but you know we won't
be in that house, you know. Okay, that's actually setting
something up for himself at the moment, and then we'll
probably move in that one. Yeah together. Yeah, we're looking
like a year in Austin at least. Yeah, okay, Yeah,
(39:53):
we love Austin. Yeah, it's a great city. I've only
been there once, but I would go back to the heartbeat.
It's there's so much to do. The people are super friendly,
really good food. So that's a good spot to land
one and I think like a good start, a good
city to start this next chapter in in together, it's
going to be so exciting. Well, is there anything that
(40:15):
you're nervous for? I have either of you lived with
a partner before? Is this both of your first times?
I haven't. I haven't lived with anybody yet, like actual
full time. This would be the first time. Yeah, Katie's space.
It'll be fun. It'll be I mean, I will say,
there's going to be times where you will need some space,
(40:36):
So just have like a code word or a separate
room that you can just go in and like do
your own thing. But you guys will have a blast.
It's it's really fun living with your best friend. He
knows he's really good with me, like he knows that
I need my space to kind of like recharge, and
just because my life's so chaotical it has been, but
(40:59):
he's always so good. He's like, do you need some space?
Are you okay? And it's not because I like giving
attitude or anything. He just he knows me, and he's like, okay,
Like this might be a time where like, yeah, but
I'll try not they get in the way and let
you deal with stuff because that's yeah, he's if you
can find a place with two separate bathrooms, that is
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the advice I would give you, Like have Zach's quarters
and Katie's quarters in the bathrooms. I feel like you
would butt heads if like we were messy people, but
this one is so organized, Like so organized you are,
And then I'm like flagging my stuff around UCA with
(41:44):
the hangers already. Yeah, but you keep your hangers on
your clothes in the suitcase? Yeah? Is that crazy? Where
so I could just like pull them out and hang
them up anywhere? Ago Okay, Wait, are you the type
of person that every time you go somewhere you have
to unpack your clothes, Like you go to any hotel
and you have to hang your clothes or put him
in the dresser shirts shirts. No, every time I come
(42:07):
to a happy couple's weekend, everything is like his shirts
are piled up in the closet or in a drawer,
and then he's got things hung I'm like, oh my goodness,
I didn't know that you did the hangar thing because
every time you're here first, so I don't see you
take your hanger. I just bring my own hangers. Yeah,
because I don't know. I like a hotel will have
it all, and I just like because it Yeah, I
(42:29):
just like the suitcase grabbed the shirts that are on
the hangars. Boom, doesn't that just take up extra space?
And wait though in your suitcase? Yeah, yeah, I've got
a pretty big suitcase. Oh my gosh, this is so funny, Katie,
you're learning something new about him. Katy's like, I don't
know how I feel about that. Okay, I have to
(42:52):
ask this question, and apologies in advance because I hated
every time I was asked this, like right after the alley.
But I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't
ask it. Because the show is about finding love and
getting engaged. Have you had any ideas plans, thoughts, timeline
(43:14):
in regards to a wedding, I could take it um so,
like Katie and I have talked about it, and we
think that, you know, since we've been going a million
miles an hour on the like you know, the show
is it's a rushed environment, like that's the nature of it.
And we think we have the rust of our lives
(43:34):
to have, like to spend with each other, that we
don't need to rush a wedding or rush anything. Everything
up until this point, in a sense, it's been rushed.
So we decided, like we're just going to enjoy and
focus on our move to Austin together, do life out there,
have our friends owe me, Just just get that time
together and then yeah, we'll figure it out. Like bre
(43:55):
no rush, I love her to death and all going
to work. Yeah, I respect that. I mean take time
now because it's going to be so different from what
you have been experiencing. So do your own thing on
your own timeline. Yeah. No pressure, Yeah, kind of like
takes like a pressure off everything because it's like while
(44:16):
this has been airing and like even in the show,
like you there's an immense amount of pressure on everything.
And now it's just like, right, we get to do
as much of a normal life as we can now.
And yeah, I could see the next two years, but
I think little ones, yeah, oh little babies. Well, I
(44:38):
can't wait to see what happens next for you both.
It's going to be such a wild but fun time.
Things will calm down eventually, and then you'll finally feel
like you're in a routine and like the dust to settle,
which is the best part truly. Okay, so before we
get into wrapping up all of this for both of you,
(45:00):
I mean, you've lived it now and Zach, you've now
lived two seasons. If you had any advice to share
with anyone out there, either looking for love or even
potentially like thinking about going on this crazy journey, what
advice would you give them? M good question. I would say,
(45:24):
just be yourself, and I think also try to be
the best version of yourself before giving yourself to someone
else too. It's beautiful, it's beautiful. That's that's odd, that's me.
(45:46):
I would say, like maybe more specific to like someone
putting themselves out there like in this show environment like
to find love, And I was like asked this question,
I think like for advice for charity, but it can
be like for just people. And love is I have
fun with like everything you can, because it's like like
(46:09):
love is something that is so fun and exciting and
sure it's scary, but it's like one of the best
feelings about the best feelings in the world, like falling
in love and having your person, So have fun with it, Like,
don't like overcomplicate it, don't stress it, like I made
mistakes in the show of trying to overcomplicate of you know,
the you know, the path to get there, when in reality,
(46:30):
it's just like letting yourself feel and have fun. And
love is a pretty great thing. So just have fun
is an amazing thing. Yeah, look at those smiles, you
two little submitting kittens over here. Okay, well this is
the perfect time. Then we're going to get into our
little game here. It's our newly engaged game. Very simple. Basically,
(46:54):
I'm going to throw a question at you and you
both have to answer at the same time, whether it's
Zach or Katie. So I'll throw like the question, the
one liner out to you and just say which one
of you two it is. So okay, let's start with
this one. Who is more romantic Zach Zack. Yeah. Who
(47:16):
has the cleaner car? Three two one? Okay? Who is
more organized? Three two one? This is a good one.
Who is more stubborn? Three two one? A woman after
my own heart? Who is the pick year eater? Three
(47:38):
two one. I'm gonna go well, yeah, I don't like
spicy foods. You don't like eggs, but I feel like
that equals it out. Okay. Next question, who takes longer
to get ready? Three two one? Who's the better to answer?
Three two one? Ya? No? Wait really? Who is the
(48:05):
better driver? Three two one? Okay? Next question, who is
the funny one? Three two one? Okay? Who's the better cook?
Three two one. You can't just say both every and
I didn't. I cook really good sammon. You cook really
good steaks and other protein. I think we bounced each
(48:28):
other out and we make good meals, great meals. Yeah,
last question here, and then we can wrap this up
and get to the fun stuff too. Who spends more
time on social media? Three two one, yeah, Katie? Alright, Well,
it's a good way to pass the time, especially when
you're stuck in a house for four days. Um, go
(48:50):
on social media at all? Like I'm on my phone.
It's probably like a puzzle game. Are reading emails like
that's yeah, I'm not a big social Yeah, well that's
probably the best. I mean, this is also such a
crazy time where as you both have seen like people
either love you or they hate you, and it's just
it can be a very scary place. So that's probably
(49:11):
good to just stay off social media for a while.
All right, let's get into our last part, which is
our resource section of the podcast. Now, Zach, I know
you know how this goes, but Katie, basically we love
to keep our listeners informed and up to date on
very important topics. So I will kick it off and
(49:34):
then I will let you two go. So my resource
for this week, it's a docu series called Eyes on
the Prize and it's basically broken up by like different years,
time frames, decades, but it's the docum series is about
different events and people that have basically helped end the
(49:54):
countries or helped try aim to eradicate this country's long
standing history of discrimination and segregation. Obviously, we still have
ways to go, but that is my resource, Eyes on
the Prize, and now you too, if you have one
that you would like to share, please do, so I
(50:14):
would say, I think incorporating me as a nurse, my
profession and diversity in ones kind of neat. So with
my line of work, especially in the emergency department, we
have this association called e NA, so Emergency Nurses Association,
and it's an organization that actually represents a lot of
(50:35):
nurses and they have a web page that supports DI
and it just embodies equality as well as oh my god,
you know, it's like, it's like it's cool because it's
they staff like emergency nurses across the country, but they
staff of all backgrounds and they go through all hospitals
(50:57):
regardless of background, raised, religion, anything like that, and that's
like their prerogative. Cool. It supports like volunteers. It also
wants like a bunch of courses and resources that just
integrate all that. So it's super cool, awesome. I feel
like that's so important in I mean really any career path,
(51:19):
but especially for nursing in the healthcare field. It's so needed.
So thank you for sharing that. And now is the
last fun part before you can go out and live
your lives. This is our this is our rose and thorn.
So basically your highlight, best favorite moment or memory from
(51:41):
this entire time, whether it was filming, whether it was
during the time when we were getting to know each
other during like this limbo phase, or now and then
obviously the thorn is the opposite. So an awkward moment,
a moment you maybe wish it didn't happen, or learning lesson.
So with that YouTube take it away, I'll do the
(52:02):
rose and then you do a thorn. I would say
the rose would be me getting the final rose. Valid, yeah,
and my roses marrying my best friend and my thorn.
Are you doing both? Okay? Well, I was just I
(52:23):
had um and then my my thorn is uh, kind
of the the events of the week prior the way
I went into the week, the way I tried to
create parameters and these really unnecessary boundaries and having it
(52:48):
affect everyone's the way it did, like that was not
my intention and ever was and yet it kind of
doesn't matter. It was. It was a decision I made,
and it's it's something I looked back with regret on
how I handled it. But that was a really tough moment.
But I'm learning and a growing point for me, and
(53:09):
well said being yeah, well you two we are so
excited for you. As I said, the best is yet
to come, but you're just going to have so much
more to look forward to as a partnership now. So
if you ever need anything, we're always here. If you
need advice or whatever it might be, please let me know.
(53:31):
If you're ever in southern California, come hang out with
me and Tommy. We'll take you out to dinner to
celebrate you too. But we can't wait to see where
this life takes you and to see this next chapter
in Austin, So enjoy it. I'll go have fun you
two crazy kids. Oh my gosh, well what a fun episode.
(53:53):
I know that you all can listen. You can't see
the happy couple, but they really looks so in love.
They look so happy and just really at ease, and
there's just this beautiful comfort level between them that you
can just it's coming through the screen here and so
I'm so thrilled for them. Please send all of your
(54:15):
well wishes their way. And yeah, thanks for tuning in
each and every week to us on Happy Hour. We
obviously couldn't be here without all of our listeners. And
one last thanks to Zach and Kabie for joining us today.
I know their schedules are going to be crazy busy,
but we appreciate them hopping on Happy Hour, so everyone
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