May 18, 2023 • 6 mins
Radio personality Christian O'Connell joins Jonesy & Amanda to chat about the new season of his podcast, Stuff of Legends.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jersey and Amanda gem Nation.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Every weeknight at six pm you get another dose of
us with gem Nation, and then we hand the baton
over to our stablemate, Christian O'Connell at seven o'clock. He's
got a new podcast called Stuff of Legends where he
interviews the likes of Richard E. Grant, Jamila Jamil and
even me. My podcast with Christian came out actually this week.
(00:24):
Any excuse to talk to this man? Christian?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello, guys, is lovely to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You too. What did Amanda talk about?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Do you know what? Well, the idea is just to
people know because they were like two billion podcasts and
the world doesn't need yet another podcast. But I love
when you chat to people and you get stories from
them and stories that they haven't really told before and so,
and this is why Amanda was a dream guest on
It Is. I asked people to tell me about the
three most treasured objects in their life. And when you
start to talk about what it is, it's not about
how much it's worth, but straight away it takes you
(00:53):
into these stories and it sort of reveals quite a
lot about somebody. And Amanda and I had such a deep,
moving chat, especially when you're talking about your son leaving.
An hour later after Amanda, after leaving the studio, I
had to pull over and have a little cry.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well, your daughter was about to leave home.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
And I just taken her to look at a university.
She left home this year, three months ago, which is
a big it's not a life moment. It felt like
a life quake.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It's extraordinary, isn't it. And one of the things that
you and I spoke about was how an image had
really helped me. And I don't want to cry again.
Now I've cried enough about all of this.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
But no, let's do it again so you can see
Brendan will cry.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, Mann of crist for both of us.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I cried the drop of barometric pressure so that I
was seeing a kinesiologist who said, put Jack in a boat,
and I said, and she said, put all the things
he needs for a wonderful life. And I started crying
and I said, you're going to make me push the
boat out, aren't you. And I've got and she said,
you know what, No, you can get in the boat.
(01:57):
You get in the back of the boat to his
light that guides him. And I thought, you know what
I can do? That, and then just recently Christian was going,
let's turn to the works of the Indigo Girls. I
heard a song called the Wood Song, and there's a
line in that that I think helps me with my
boat analogy. And they're building a boat. We fill the
(02:19):
whole with the heart, weighs it down and keeps it afloat.
But it says the wood is tired. But the wood
is tired, and the wood is old and will make
it fine if.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
The weather holds.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But if the weather holds, will have missed the point,
because that's where I need to go. And I thought,
I can't make calm waters my children.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You're setting me off again. It was the hardest thing
to push that boat off in January with my Ruby,
my first daughter to leave home. And the thing, Amanda
about the boat thing is actually I've had so many
emails and people who've been through that, and they understood
you really sort of understood it for people about the
boat metaphor. Though my worry was that actually, when you
really look back about raising our kids, and it's more
(02:56):
portant we enjoy them rather than try and raise them.
But I actually wonder if we're ever really in the boat.
Actually all we're kind of at the sidelines. Even if
we think we're in the boat, I'm not sure. Sometimes
if we're in the boat with them, I don't know.
I've been thinking about that image for months. It brought
you comfort, it has haunted me it. Yeah, And then
at Christmas, my if thought would be lovely to surprise
you with a painting. Right, I've never had a paint
(03:17):
before my life. Guess what it was a boat on
a still empty lake and an empty boat, and I
look at it every day, and it's your image this whole.
I get to see it every day when I wake up.
It's in my bedroom, of that empty boat. That reminds me.
It's like a little punch in the heart.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah. Whereas for me, it actually helped me in the
thought that if the if the rhythm is rocky, and
you go in the hard places, that's life. And I
can't smooth the waters, even for myself. It's hard to
smooth the waters alone.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He imagined that you set them off on a Harley Davidson.
I was thinking, and you're in a sidecar, pushed my door.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
It off in a boat.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It was the fair start.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I knew I was going to get the Bill for
something and I cried, I so you've got Amanda, But
who else are you talking to in this series?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Well, last season we had we had some amazing guests
like Matthew McConaughey, Ricky Gervais, Hamish Blake, Celes Barbourn. This
year we've got Richardie Grant is a fantastic actor, Sean mccarliff,
Andy Lee, and Eric Banner. Great chat with Eric Banner
and what are.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Some of the quirkier things that people say pull their heartstrings?
That they say their objects.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
The wonderful thing is as they start to talk about it, right,
it's that they're I get the feeling they're talking about
this thing for the first time in an interview. So
the amount of times I've done this and you can
tell they're like the words are stumbling out and they
didn't realize how much it meant to them. So many
times they've interviewed people like you and Mander that get
very emotional actually when they connect with what's the story
behind the object that Richardy Grant was talking about his
(04:51):
journals that he kept from the age of ten, and
I said, that's an amazing thing. You've kept a journal
from the age of ten. I know some girls from
they younger, to try and make sense of the crazy,
wild teenage years, keep journals, but I don't know many
guys have done that. He's kept it up to right now,
and he's in his seventies. But he said, get a
load of this story, right, he said, when he was ten,
he was in a late night car trip. His mum
(05:13):
was driving with his dad's best friend. He's in the
back seat with his brother and sister. Suddenly is a
word that the car has pulled over right, and then
in the middle of nowhere, his mum is in the
front seat making out with his dad's best mate. And
I don't mean pashing, I mean wheah. He closes his
eyes because he can't believe what he's seen, right, it's
(05:34):
so horrific, and pretends to be asleep when he gets
home that night. To make sense of what he saw
his mum making out with his dad's best mate, he
started to write it down, and that's how he started
to write a journal every day. So that I like,
is those stories like that. It's not about the journal,
It's about a kid trying to make sense of something
unbelievable that you shouldn't see in your mum doing with
(05:55):
your dad's best mate.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
No, wow yeah, wow, yeah yeah, because my kids would
be the biggest blabbermount.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
In the world. A Dutch put it away. That's the
olimate cold spoon.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
When your kid pipes in and.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
What are you doing? Cold spoon feels like you're safe work.
It's everyone safe. I heard that you have ever had
a miseecto me. You'll know, Christian. It's always great to George.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You can catch Christian O'Connell's Stuff of Legends podcast. It's
on the iHeartRadio app. Christian O'Connell, thank you.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Thank you very much. Guys, have a lovely weekend. I'm
off to go and burn a boat.
Jersey and Amanda gem Nation.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Every weeknight at six pm you get another dose of
us with gem Nation, and then we hand the baton
over to our stablemate, Christian O'Connell at seven o'clock. He's
got a new podcast called Stuff of Legends where he
interviews the likes of Richard E. Grant, Jamila Jamil and
even me. My podcast with Christian came out actually this week.
(00:24):
Any excuse to talk to this man? Christian?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello, guys, is lovely to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You too. What did Amanda talk about?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Do you know what? Well, the idea is just to
people know because they were like two billion podcasts and
the world doesn't need yet another podcast. But I love
when you chat to people and you get stories from
them and stories that they haven't really told before and so,
and this is why Amanda was a dream guest on
It Is. I asked people to tell me about the
three most treasured objects in their life. And when you
start to talk about what it is, it's not about
how much it's worth, but straight away it takes you
(00:53):
into these stories and it sort of reveals quite a
lot about somebody. And Amanda and I had such a deep,
moving chat, especially when you're talking about your son leaving.
An hour later after Amanda, after leaving the studio, I
had to pull over and have a little cry.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well, your daughter was about to leave home.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
And I just taken her to look at a university.
She left home this year, three months ago, which is
a big it's not a life moment. It felt like
a life quake.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It's extraordinary, isn't it. And one of the things that
you and I spoke about was how an image had
really helped me. And I don't want to cry again.
Now I've cried enough about all of this.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
But no, let's do it again so you can see
Brendan will cry.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, Mann of crist for both of us.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I cried the drop of barometric pressure so that I
was seeing a kinesiologist who said, put Jack in a boat,
and I said, and she said, put all the things
he needs for a wonderful life. And I started crying
and I said, you're going to make me push the
boat out, aren't you. And I've got and she said,
you know what, No, you can get in the boat.
(01:57):
You get in the back of the boat to his
light that guides him. And I thought, you know what
I can do? That, and then just recently Christian was going,
let's turn to the works of the Indigo Girls. I
heard a song called the Wood Song, and there's a
line in that that I think helps me with my
boat analogy. And they're building a boat. We fill the
(02:19):
whole with the heart, weighs it down and keeps it afloat.
But it says the wood is tired. But the wood
is tired, and the wood is old and will make
it fine if.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
The weather holds.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But if the weather holds, will have missed the point,
because that's where I need to go. And I thought,
I can't make calm waters my children.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You're setting me off again. It was the hardest thing
to push that boat off in January with my Ruby,
my first daughter to leave home. And the thing, Amanda
about the boat thing is actually I've had so many
emails and people who've been through that, and they understood
you really sort of understood it for people about the
boat metaphor. Though my worry was that actually, when you
really look back about raising our kids, and it's more
(02:56):
portant we enjoy them rather than try and raise them.
But I actually wonder if we're ever really in the boat.
Actually all we're kind of at the sidelines. Even if
we think we're in the boat, I'm not sure. Sometimes
if we're in the boat with them, I don't know.
I've been thinking about that image for months. It brought
you comfort, it has haunted me it. Yeah, And then
at Christmas, my if thought would be lovely to surprise
you with a painting. Right, I've never had a paint
(03:17):
before my life. Guess what it was a boat on
a still empty lake and an empty boat, and I
look at it every day, and it's your image this whole.
I get to see it every day when I wake up.
It's in my bedroom, of that empty boat. That reminds me.
It's like a little punch in the heart.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah. Whereas for me, it actually helped me in the
thought that if the if the rhythm is rocky, and
you go in the hard places, that's life. And I
can't smooth the waters, even for myself. It's hard to
smooth the waters alone.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He imagined that you set them off on a Harley Davidson.
I was thinking, and you're in a sidecar, pushed my door.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
It off in a boat.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It was the fair start.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I knew I was going to get the Bill for
something and I cried, I so you've got Amanda, But
who else are you talking to in this series?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Well, last season we had we had some amazing guests
like Matthew McConaughey, Ricky Gervais, Hamish Blake, Celes Barbourn. This
year we've got Richardie Grant is a fantastic actor, Sean mccarliff,
Andy Lee, and Eric Banner. Great chat with Eric Banner
and what are.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Some of the quirkier things that people say pull their heartstrings?
That they say their objects.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
The wonderful thing is as they start to talk about it, right,
it's that they're I get the feeling they're talking about
this thing for the first time in an interview. So
the amount of times I've done this and you can
tell they're like the words are stumbling out and they
didn't realize how much it meant to them. So many
times they've interviewed people like you and Mander that get
very emotional actually when they connect with what's the story
behind the object that Richardy Grant was talking about his
(04:51):
journals that he kept from the age of ten, and
I said, that's an amazing thing. You've kept a journal
from the age of ten. I know some girls from
they younger, to try and make sense of the crazy,
wild teenage years, keep journals, but I don't know many
guys have done that. He's kept it up to right now,
and he's in his seventies. But he said, get a
load of this story, right, he said, when he was ten,
he was in a late night car trip. His mum
(05:13):
was driving with his dad's best friend. He's in the
back seat with his brother and sister. Suddenly is a
word that the car has pulled over right, and then
in the middle of nowhere, his mum is in the
front seat making out with his dad's best mate. And
I don't mean pashing, I mean wheah. He closes his
eyes because he can't believe what he's seen, right, it's
(05:34):
so horrific, and pretends to be asleep when he gets
home that night. To make sense of what he saw
his mum making out with his dad's best mate, he
started to write it down, and that's how he started
to write a journal every day. So that I like,
is those stories like that. It's not about the journal,
It's about a kid trying to make sense of something
unbelievable that you shouldn't see in your mum doing with
(05:55):
your dad's best mate.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
No, wow yeah, wow, yeah yeah, because my kids would
be the biggest blabbermount.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
In the world. A Dutch put it away. That's the
olimate cold spoon.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
When your kid pipes in and.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
What are you doing? Cold spoon feels like you're safe work.
It's everyone safe. I heard that you have ever had
a miseecto me. You'll know, Christian. It's always great to George.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You can catch Christian O'Connell's Stuff of Legends podcast. It's
on the iHeartRadio app. Christian O'Connell, thank you.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Thank you very much. Guys, have a lovely weekend. I'm
off to go and burn a boat.
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